Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, I am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast All Right Everybody, Part two
Speaker 1: of the season finale Raincoats and Recipes. We got into
Speaker 1: a bit of a discussion amongst ourselves and we decided
Speaker 1: we're going to need a part two to just unpack
Speaker 1: all this. Anyway, Amy, pick up where you left off.
Speaker 1: You were you were, Oh, here's the thing. I think
Speaker 1: that I understand what you're saying. Like, I like Rory
Speaker 1: and Dean too, and I think Jared pattack he's a
Speaker 1: total babe, and I'm like, kiss, I love it, right,
Speaker 1: But it's the heartache coming that could be so avoided
Speaker 1: for Rory if she wasn't making dumb decisions. And Dean
Speaker 1: it's like she's she's it's very bad. What has happened
Speaker 1: between Lorelae and Rory that is not good, which we'll
Speaker 1: talk about, but also the importance of the final scene
Speaker 1: that is in there for a reason that Rory goes
Speaker 1: out of the house. She's upset, she's in this thing
Speaker 1: with her mom, and she calls Dean her boyfriend and
Speaker 1: quote not at all because Lindsay answers, and then she
Speaker 1: has that moment that realization of Oh, like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say it. How about she screwed up? How
Speaker 1: about an alternate version of that final scene and let
Speaker 1: me just put this on your plate and see if
Speaker 1: you want to take a couple of bites of this. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, because I'm going to serve it up hot
Speaker 1: for you. All right, no silver ware? Are you just
Speaker 1: gonna have to face eat it? But here we go.
Speaker 1: What if Flora I didn't come down on her with
Speaker 1: that lecture and just said to her, I like, where
Speaker 1: we're going. We'll talk about this in the morning, knowing
Speaker 1: that anything she said was going to affect her daughter adversely,
Speaker 1: So why not just say and I'm just spitballing here, guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's right or wrong. But what
Speaker 1: about just letting it lay there for the for the night,
Speaker 1: so that so that Rory could sort it out in
Speaker 1: her I think, on her own, and then in the morning, like,
Speaker 1: be a little more gentle about it instead of being like,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you mean? She is horrified at
Speaker 1: what her I understand she's horrified, But why are you
Speaker 1: dumping on your daughter right in the moment and making
Speaker 1: her feel that big so bad. There is one only
Speaker 1: one reason why I kind of agree with Scott, and
Speaker 1: that's because it was her first time. Yeah, so, like
Speaker 1: it is a very vulnerable like thing and moment. And
Speaker 1: you know a lot of you know, people in high
Speaker 1: school or whatever college look like, oh, I wonder what
Speaker 1: my first time is going to be like or whatever.
Speaker 1: And Rory painted it out like rainbows and butterflies in
Speaker 1: her heads, in her head, like she said, I had
Speaker 1: you know, my first time was with somebody that loves me.
Speaker 1: Why don't you know? Like so she so she felt
Speaker 1: like this was like, no, it's it's so, it's so
Speaker 1: bad thing bad. Think about it, like, it's so bout
Speaker 1: a year old lady in a bad marriage hooks up
Speaker 1: with another dude in a bad marriage. Right, that's bad.
Speaker 1: That's bad. You're eighteen years old and you just slept
Speaker 1: with someone for your very first time who is married.
Speaker 1: It's so bad. Yeah, I argue it. It's real, real,
Speaker 1: real bad, and it is very bad. But but with
Speaker 1: that being said, like it is such a pivotal sensitive
Speaker 1: moment for Rory on what just happened. And I although
Speaker 1: I agree with Loralai and everything she said and how
Speaker 1: hard she is coming down on her. There is something
Speaker 1: about there is something about it being Rory's first time
Speaker 1: that like she wasn't sensitive enough. Oh I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Here's the thing. I understand where everyone is
Speaker 1: coming from. And I agree with you, Danielle, because it
Speaker 1: is like if this was like, let's say her and
Speaker 1: Dean had slept together before, when they were together, this
Speaker 1: would be a completely different conversation because they were going
Speaker 1: back to it. I think because it was her first time,
Speaker 1: I think Loralai was mad at the situation but didn't
Speaker 1: take four seconds a second to think about how Rory
Speaker 1: was feeling. Because for Rory, like you said, it was
Speaker 1: all rainbows and magic and it was amazing, and then
Speaker 1: reality said in that she called Dean good mom. If
Speaker 1: you go, oh okay, let's talk about this, you know
Speaker 1: about what we witnessed. Is she being a good mom
Speaker 1: by doing that? I think there's there's no right and
Speaker 1: no wrong answer. I think everyone's going to handle it differently.
Speaker 1: Though there was one thing Scott said that what if
Speaker 1: Laura I never came and had that conver Like, what
Speaker 1: if Laura I just wasn't there. I think Rory's smart
Speaker 1: enough where all of that would come to a realization
Speaker 1: because when she calls Dean, Lindsey picks up. So I
Speaker 1: think even if Laura she called Dean to prove her
Speaker 1: mom wrong, essentially she needed him, like you need a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, oh, my boyfriend's married. Yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: And she and Rory actually said to Laurel, I I
Speaker 1: hate you. We have we heard that before. Before she
Speaker 1: walked out to the door. She says, I hate you, mom.
Speaker 1: I think she says, I hate you for ruining this
Speaker 1: for me. Well, I hate She used the word hate.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. It's pretty severe. How are we arguing
Speaker 1: that this is anything but terrible? And no, it's so
Speaker 1: terribul because two people are living truthfully and expressing their
Speaker 1: truth and loving each other. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: Scott and society. Do you care about rules or about
Speaker 1: in the way? What do you care about Rory? Of
Speaker 1: course I care about Rory, So then why would you
Speaker 1: ever care about all of these people? No, Rory, do
Speaker 1: you care about Rory? Yeah? Then why would we ever
Speaker 1: think this is a good idea in any way? Because
Speaker 1: Rory will be hurt by this. Now I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I don't know. Six months down the road, Dean does
Speaker 1: get divorced. He ends up with Rory. Okay, the pain
Speaker 1: of this. The one thing that like adults should say
Speaker 1: to kids is never do this. Don't do this. Listen,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, don't do this because it's never good.
Speaker 1: It's always bad, and and not only like look, counselor,
Speaker 1: if you if you'll approach the bench, counselor Okay, um,
Speaker 1: I hear you. But here's here are two words that
Speaker 1: I think for me sum it up. No matter what
Speaker 1: type of a life you're living, no matter who guides you,
Speaker 1: no matter what you believe in, we know what's right,
Speaker 1: we know what's wrong. Okay on the moral morality scale. Sure, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's here's what I have to say. Life happens. Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Okay, and it's it does. It
Speaker 1: happens to everyone, and we don't always behave in in
Speaker 1: in a spectacular fashion. So then the question becomes, how
Speaker 1: do we handle that? What's the best way to handle that?
Speaker 1: Now we're taking this incident out of outside of the
Speaker 1: show and putting it into everybody's real life, and that
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody wants us to do this
Speaker 1: is like analysis, paralysis to analysis. But I don't feel
Speaker 1: like these guys did anything wrong. I don't think. So
Speaker 1: here's okay, So let's say that that's what life is
Speaker 1: about out what they're in the argument. This is one
Speaker 1: of those times, my mat can you see text doctor
Speaker 1: Goldscher and see if you can do a special up
Speaker 1: episode with us. Not today, we don't have to do
Speaker 1: it today, but this week or next week. Because here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Yeah, Scott, Danielle Tara say we don't care
Speaker 1: about Lindsay. Just pretend like we don't even know Lindsay, right,
Speaker 1: So like I'm a believer that like, well we don't
Speaker 1: because we were not allowed to care about her, for
Speaker 1: Rory knows they're married. So say, but nobody cares about Lindsay.
Speaker 1: But this is my point, this is my point. We
Speaker 1: don't have to care about Lindsay even though, like a
Speaker 1: good person goes you know, I'm not gonna like hurt Lindsay.
Speaker 1: But Rory should know. This is what a person man,
Speaker 1: woman whoever should know. I am setting myself up for
Speaker 1: pain and in our lives, like we need to know
Speaker 1: when to not do that. Don't know how in the
Speaker 1: moment unless you have a lot of experience. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot of experience. Correct, I get it. They're teenagers.
Speaker 1: They're never going to do it right. Move would have
Speaker 1: been You want to know what a baller move would
Speaker 1: have been? The Rory that we knew years ago, because
Speaker 1: what's happening is Rory is like devolving. Is that a word? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if it's a word, but
Speaker 1: Rory the Rory I knew would have done. And the
Speaker 1: baller move is fine. Say they're in that the Dragonfly
Speaker 1: and they kissed. Then she says, you know what, Dean,
Speaker 1: clearly we have feelings for each other. You need to
Speaker 1: go get your straight and call me when it's sorted out.
Speaker 1: And I answer, baller move. But that's the move. That's
Speaker 1: a person who not only loves Dean but loves herself.
Speaker 1: One hundred amen, Amy, Amen to that. Yeah. Absolutely. The
Speaker 1: one thing I will say, we do have to realize
Speaker 1: is we're dealing with somebody who is un unbelievably immature.
Speaker 1: And you hear that just so she took both of
Speaker 1: them totally. But with the topic of Rory right now,
Speaker 1: because she goes on to be like he was my
Speaker 1: boyfriend first, like sister, Yeah, well if that is not
Speaker 1: an argument, Like, what are you trying to say with that?
Speaker 1: Let's right, let's face it. They're both coming they're both
Speaker 1: coming out of they're both coming from dysfunction one degree
Speaker 1: or another. Yeah, he's coming out of his, she's coming
Speaker 1: out of hers, and they're coming together and they're being dysfunctional.
Speaker 1: But it's really nice to watch. But what we're analyzing
Speaker 1: right now is like the behavior and it's just like
Speaker 1: they're all acting like you're selfish. True, their brains haven't
Speaker 1: stopped forming yet. They've got another dumb mistakes. When I
Speaker 1: was that age too, I made plenty of dumb mistakes
Speaker 1: when I was at age. That's the age where your
Speaker 1: heart gets broken, where you get where you get, you know,
Speaker 1: beat up a little bit, and then you'll learn. But
Speaker 1: here's there's still in a learning phase. So Loralai says
Speaker 1: what she says, right, because we're kind of analyzing a
Speaker 1: bunch of things. Rory's making mistakes and did Loralai handle
Speaker 1: it right? And it's like, here's why I think Laurela
Speaker 1: handled it right. I don't think Rory's going to make
Speaker 1: this same mistake again. She'll make plenty of more, but like,
Speaker 1: is she gonna go sleep with a married dude again? Probably?
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you can ever make
Speaker 1: that same mistake your first time being with your ex
Speaker 1: who's married, Like that'll never happen again. I think. I
Speaker 1: think what has happened here is we did not see
Speaker 1: a scene between Laurel and Rory. We did not in
Speaker 1: that moment when she was scolding her daughter. I thought
Speaker 1: we were seeing a scene between Emily and Laurel. I
Speaker 1: think she morphed into Emily, and and that was a
Speaker 1: young because because let me finish, let me finish. Laurel
Speaker 1: has heard that same conversation from Emily from the time
Speaker 1: she was sixteen, and she's just repeating it, and she's
Speaker 1: passing that abuse down to her daughter. Agree. I disagree
Speaker 1: so much because Emily treats Lorelai irrationally and badly for
Speaker 1: things that Lorela didn't even do. Rory made a terrible
Speaker 1: mistake here, and Lorelai is not sugarcoating it, She is
Speaker 1: not condoning it. She is expressing it in and she
Speaker 1: doesn't raise her voice. She expresses it in a very
Speaker 1: eloquent Maybe we pull it up and we read through
Speaker 1: what Lorelai says, because she expresses it so well to say,
Speaker 1: to point out to her kid, who's who's like lost.
Speaker 1: I I'm not disputing what she said, Okay, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm questioning the timing and the intensity of it. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I think I think there's a
Speaker 1: world where where she can say the same thing the
Speaker 1: next day in a gentler way, in a more loving way. Jackie,
Speaker 1: will you pull up the train script so we can
Speaker 1: see it. I don't know. I think she needed. Look,
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, and I fully respect it.
Speaker 1: I think you make it. Rory's not some screw up.
Speaker 1: She's not running. She's at Yale and she's doing well
Speaker 1: and everything's going well. How do you talk to your
Speaker 1: daughter that way? That is not She's not a screw up.
Speaker 1: She's a girl who is obviously very s she's screwing up. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let her screw up. Let her screw up, and
Speaker 1: let her, let her sleep on it, and let her
Speaker 1: come to her own conclusion. She already she already did,
Speaker 1: like she already made that decision herself. She already did
Speaker 1: screw but let her but let her okay, So let
Speaker 1: the screw up ferment a little bit overnight and maybe
Speaker 1: she wakes up and has an awakening it. But allow
Speaker 1: her that that space, allow her to come up with
Speaker 1: her own conclusion and go to her mother and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, Mom, I really screwed up. So you're
Speaker 1: the dad right in this group because we're kind of
Speaker 1: winging it. So your kid screws up. Now, I know
Speaker 1: he's younger. I don't know what what kids screw up.
Speaker 1: Let's say he lies, right, he cheated on a test
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, I did something bad to stay on
Speaker 1: the cheating. Do you address it that? So let's say
Speaker 1: he cheats on a test, right, and the school calls
Speaker 1: me Nick, doesn't shade, he doesn't, he doesn't need I know,
Speaker 1: give me, give just allow me the makeup story. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you. I'll tell your kid right away, or do
Speaker 1: you go okay, sleep on it and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk tomorrow about No, you do it right. I do
Speaker 1: it right away, but I do it very gently. I
Speaker 1: do it very so that's my because you have to
Speaker 1: know not was she not gentle enough? I think I
Speaker 1: think she was not. That's why I think there's she
Speaker 1: is her her she is, that's Emily coming out in her,
Speaker 1: ripping into her. And I thought that that was a
Speaker 1: little bit brutal. Look, I don't I don't disagree that
Speaker 1: it was brutal. I think Lorelei was as brutal as
Speaker 1: a mom could be, but I think it was necessary. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's look at what so what she says, So
Speaker 1: this is the part. So Rory thinks the drama is
Speaker 1: that she didn't tell Loralai she was going to sleep
Speaker 1: with Dean, right, So she says like, I'm sorry didn't
Speaker 1: tell you about it first. I didn't know this was
Speaker 1: going to happen. And it's like, is she delusional with that?
Speaker 1: Like has Rory lost her mind? That that's what Laurel
Speaker 1: is going to be upset about? And I think Loralis calm.
Speaker 1: She says, but he's married. She says, you don't understand, Well,
Speaker 1: is he still married? And then she says yes, and
Speaker 1: she says, well, then I understand, and she says it's
Speaker 1: not working between them. They're not happy, and Lorelis says, oh, Rory,
Speaker 1: like like she's aren't broken for her daughter. I don't
Speaker 1: know that she was being harsh. She's just like and
Speaker 1: then she even gives her another one, like he told
Speaker 1: you he's leaving her. HeLa was like helping her walk
Speaker 1: through it? Yeah, like did you realize what? Because because
Speaker 1: Rory's in this fantasy right now and Lorila is trying
Speaker 1: to bring her just back to reality a little bit
Speaker 1: of Like okay, he said this, but like did he?
Speaker 1: I think? And look, this is really interesting, Laura Leges. You,
Speaker 1: of all people, the girl who thinks everything through the listmaker,
Speaker 1: you didn't bother to discuss those things before jumping into
Speaker 1: bed with a married guy, like she's I think she's
Speaker 1: showing Rory this is not what she wants to be either.
Speaker 1: And what about this part, Scott, Like, what about this
Speaker 1: part where she says he told you he's moving out,
Speaker 1: that they're getting divot? Okay, listen, Like I said before,
Speaker 1: I am not disputing the Lurlize right to say these
Speaker 1: words to her daughter. I'm not disputing this. All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is and I was asking you to speculate, and
Speaker 1: we have very successfully. I think is there another time
Speaker 1: and another intensity in order to have this conversation with
Speaker 1: Rory like in a real world sense. I mean if
Speaker 1: you if your daughter did this, or if my son
Speaker 1: did this, you know, what's the reaction. I mean, the
Speaker 1: reaction is as important as the incident, right, in terms
Speaker 1: of how it impacts the child, and how the child's
Speaker 1: going to process it, and how the child's going to
Speaker 1: resolve it. Like, wouldn't you rather have your child resolve
Speaker 1: it within themselves in their own time? Why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: trust your if you've done such a great job raising
Speaker 1: your child. Yeah, so all she's reacting to, Yes, I
Speaker 1: think she's angry at herself. I think she's angry at herself, like,
Speaker 1: this is my deficiency as a parent, and this is
Speaker 1: my guilt as being a single mother that doesn't trust
Speaker 1: you enough. Now, I'm not going to trust you enough
Speaker 1: to resolve this within yourself because you made this horrible decision.
Speaker 1: Everybody makes horrible decisions. But who are we as parents,
Speaker 1: or as a mother, or or as a sister or brother,
Speaker 1: whoever you know, to come down on somebody that hard immediately? Right?
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I think there's another world
Speaker 1: where you where you respect your child or you respect
Speaker 1: your friend to oh this dawns on me the next
Speaker 1: day or the next two days and you just sort
Speaker 1: of sit by and you watch, and they come you
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I think I screwed up
Speaker 1: really bad here, And you go, why do you think
Speaker 1: you're screwed up? Yep, Okay, I them come to the
Speaker 1: realization there's more power there. So I don't I like
Speaker 1: what you're saying. And I think there is there is
Speaker 1: some truth or or correctness what I don't know what
Speaker 1: the word is to the idea of Lorala saying to Rory,
Speaker 1: you need to really think about what you've just done.
Speaker 1: You need to really think about it, and then leaving
Speaker 1: it and off she goes. So that I agree that
Speaker 1: there is some right potential there that Rory comes to
Speaker 1: it herself. But I also the two things can be true,
Speaker 1: and that I think Loralai handled it in a way
Speaker 1: that I actually was like, I don't know if impressed
Speaker 1: is the right word, but I think Laura handled You
Speaker 1: were just impressed with this may you were just impressed
Speaker 1: with the scene and how it made pressed with Okay,
Speaker 1: And that's your soul's parenting or abusing your daughter. Is
Speaker 1: there a world where you can see that she's abusing
Speaker 1: her daughter when her daughter is in an emotional state,
Speaker 1: a completely a vulnerable state, and she's bashing her child
Speaker 1: to the point where her child goes outside and breaks down.
Speaker 1: Think she doesn't break down her mom is right though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she didn't break down because of the arguments of her
Speaker 1: mother's right. It's not about her mother at this point.
Speaker 1: It's about what that child's going through and allowing her
Speaker 1: to process that all on her own and come to
Speaker 1: her own realization. Look, I like where you're going with that.
Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world it would have been
Speaker 1: better for Rory to realize she made this mistake on
Speaker 1: her own. But I think that Danielle and Tara are
Speaker 1: correct and that they're saying She storms off like you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about, Mom, I hate that
Speaker 1: you're ruining this for me. And then when she calls
Speaker 1: and Lindsay answers, in a moment, she realizes what she's
Speaker 1: done and that Morlay is right. Jackie, can you pull
Speaker 1: up the script again? We went through it like way
Speaker 1: too fast. There's some really important things in there. And Scott,
Speaker 1: I think that you're coming to this from a place
Speaker 1: of such a being such an incredible parent, right, Like
Speaker 1: we've all talked about it like your most important, yeah,
Speaker 1: mission on this planet is to be a dad, right,
Speaker 1: And so I think it's why you're feeling so much
Speaker 1: pain for Rory, right because I think that you're you
Speaker 1: feel what your child feels, right like you're this incredible
Speaker 1: dad like for people listening, like Scott is the kind
Speaker 1: of parent that like you can't we can't even describe
Speaker 1: it in words like he is so it's his biggest life,
Speaker 1: Like I believe you would do anything, you die for
Speaker 1: your kid, right, Like dare I say it all in?
Speaker 1: All in, I think any parent is. But I just
Speaker 1: don't think it's I think that this kind of thing
Speaker 1: gets passed down. Now, Rory's going to do this to
Speaker 1: her kid. Emily did it to her, she did, Laureli
Speaker 1: is doing it to Rory. Rory's going to do it
Speaker 1: to her kid. And I don't think it's okay, breaks
Speaker 1: an erotic chain. Let the child deal with it, Daniel,
Speaker 1: take your headphones off. Scott. I like what you're saying
Speaker 1: because I think this is such a pivotal moment in
Speaker 1: Rory's life. Now. I can't explain if it why, but
Speaker 1: we all know in the movies that Rory has not
Speaker 1: achieved what we sort of thought she would, right, And
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if this isn't one of the pivotal moments
Speaker 1: that took her sideways, especially you know how we're talking
Speaker 1: about that she's devolving. Like, I agree with you on
Speaker 1: that now, I don't want to I'm not blaming Laureli there.
Speaker 1: I'm blaming maybe Rory's bad decision making whatever. So we
Speaker 1: will debate that as time goes on. Scott, I think
Speaker 1: one of the things, and forgive me for saying it,
Speaker 1: is that because you are such you're such a I
Speaker 1: don't know what the word is for the type of
Speaker 1: parent you are, but like you're such a good parent, right,
Speaker 1: But I think it might be clouding your judgment here
Speaker 1: with I do think Lorelai handled it really well because
Speaker 1: she's saying, I scroll down a little bit. Whoever can
Speaker 1: control this thing? I think it's so important when she says,
Speaker 1: here we go, she wants to take Rory's side. She
Speaker 1: wants Rory to stay to her. Yes, he's getting divorced,
Speaker 1: he's moving out, he has a lower and they've divided
Speaker 1: up the Monster Truck tickets. But Rory says so she
Speaker 1: asks her that because I think if Rory would have said, yes,
Speaker 1: he told me they're getting divorced. You know, they're working
Speaker 1: it all out as we speak, Lorela might have been like,
Speaker 1: all right, but what she says, we didn't get around
Speaker 1: to discussing everything, you know what. And then the ring
Speaker 1: thing is such a gut punch. She's like, is he
Speaker 1: wearing his ring? He took the ring off when they slept.
Speaker 1: You know what? This is? This is a classic case
Speaker 1: so bad. This is a classic case of of of
Speaker 1: a mother being jealous of their own daughter. No, okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me because jealous because she got she
Speaker 1: got into Yale, and she's finding deep love and she's
Speaker 1: asserting her independence all at the same time in the house.
Speaker 1: So she perceived that to be disrespectful to her. No,
Speaker 1: And I think that's lorealized dysfunction. I have a I
Speaker 1: have a note on that, because I mean, as we've
Speaker 1: seen the last four seasons, there's always parallels between Lorlai
Speaker 1: and Rory. I don't think she's jealous Lorla. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's jealous of Rory. What I think is understanding
Speaker 1: and and Rory makes this point by you know you
Speaker 1: did this with dad and she Mary when Sherry was pregnant,
Speaker 1: which was out burn. But Lorala did this right, So
Speaker 1: like we do have to understand this did happen to
Speaker 1: Lorala and it crushed her. It literally physically crushed her
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want that for her daughter. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean saying Lola didn't know her, but she
Speaker 1: need but or not she was pregnant or not, he
Speaker 1: was with her, she didn't know that. No, they were
Speaker 1: on the outs. This is so I'm getting so mad
Speaker 1: about this because I could be wrong, but I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure I'm not. They Sherry and Christopher were sort of
Speaker 1: it was not they were. They were together, and they
Speaker 1: got back together because Sherry called Christopher to say I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1: So any that Rory making that argument today today, today,
Speaker 1: what years ago. I'm getting so upset. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you're right. I take it back. That was such an
Speaker 1: incorrect low blow the bride to make and just made
Speaker 1: her seem more idiotic because it's like, that's not even correct.
Speaker 1: That wasn't they weren't together. How does Laura expect Rorya
Speaker 1: to behave in some kind of puritanical way or a
Speaker 1: correct way. You're bitanical without setting the example for it
Speaker 1: in her in her how she lives her life, doesn't
Speaker 1: date Mary an example? Is she setting scar Max Medina, Hello,
Speaker 1: those chickens are coming home to roost. There's been some
Speaker 1: inappropriate things going on. Yes, that's her teacher. She wasn't
Speaker 1: respecting Rory's space at all. Now she's doing it again.
Speaker 1: How do you expect your daughter to learn the lessons
Speaker 1: on how to behave in extraordinary situations if you're not
Speaker 1: setting the proper examples. Were boundaries were her boundaries? They're not.
Speaker 1: I'll give you part of that, and that you could
Speaker 1: be right that Rory made this choice because Lorelai didn't
Speaker 1: teach her better. But Loreli is not crossing boundaries by
Speaker 1: saying to her kid, who she just caught having sex
Speaker 1: with a married guy in her house under her roof,
Speaker 1: Like that is not okay. I don't think Lorelai is
Speaker 1: a perfect person, right. I think that's the point of
Speaker 1: this scene. Like, I don't think Rory gets to be Look,
Speaker 1: Rory did what she did. She slept with Dean, she
Speaker 1: did it. But all that her mom is doing is
Speaker 1: pointing out to her he is married. This isn't good
Speaker 1: and guess what. Loril's right, because Rory went to call
Speaker 1: her boyfriend that she just lost her virginity too, and
Speaker 1: his wife answered, I don't understand how we argue that
Speaker 1: any different way Rory blew it. Rory screwed up, Like,
Speaker 1: how do we argue that she didn't screw up. Nobody's
Speaker 1: arguing that she didn't that she didn't screw up. That's
Speaker 1: not the point. The point is how Lauraa handled it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Laura handled it perfectly, but I
Speaker 1: can respect that. I respect where you're coming from in that.
Speaker 1: I do think it would be interesting if Laura handled
Speaker 1: it differently and said this is major. We need to
Speaker 1: talk about this tomorrow. And I totally appreciate what Danielle
Speaker 1: is saying too, where she's like, this is our first time,
Speaker 1: this is a mess. That's what I'm saying. This girl
Speaker 1: needs to go straight to therapy. This is a mess. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well if she goes to therapy, then we don't really
Speaker 1: have a show. Imaguarian therapy totally. But it puts such
Speaker 1: a damper on the Luke Lorelai thing too. I agree.
Speaker 1: I do agree with that we're on this high right
Speaker 1: which we haven't even talked about this yet. Like we're
Speaker 1: on this high, this amazing moment, amazing moment. And here's
Speaker 1: the other thing. Scott Patterson slash Luke Danes. You know
Speaker 1: who does right? Luke? Luke does it right. He was
Speaker 1: not He was not going to go try to kiss
Speaker 1: her when she he thought she was still with Digger.
Speaker 1: He says to her, I'm doing everything right and you're
Speaker 1: still with Digger. He would have never made a move
Speaker 1: on her. That's the thing. It's like, yes, there are parallels,
Speaker 1: and Luke is awesome and Dean sucks. Luke would have
Speaker 1: never he wouldn't have done He was heartbroken because he's saying,
Speaker 1: I waited, I did this right. I'm giving you all
Speaker 1: the signs. He's a grown he's a grown ass man
Speaker 1: who's a borderline agoraphobic, uh, you know, and social social
Speaker 1: anxiety disorder. I mean, come on, man, you can't compare
Speaker 1: the two. But I yes. But that's the beauty of
Speaker 1: the show is you get this high and then you
Speaker 1: get this drama and you get this you're feeling all
Speaker 1: of the time throughout the episode. It's like wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not. I love watching it. I loved
Speaker 1: watching the scene. I'm just yeah, you know, spitball a
Speaker 1: little bit here, that's all just throwing that in. So
Speaker 1: now we can move. What did you think? Well, I
Speaker 1: want to know what the k the kiss? Are we there? Now?
Speaker 1: Are we there? Now? I mean I think so I'm
Speaker 1: exhausted by the Rory thing. Yeah, well, I mean I
Speaker 1: still think we need to dive into Digger. Just raining
Speaker 1: on the parade and then Richard all right, all right, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and Emily all right, yeah that's all right, so let's
Speaker 1: burnt back it up. All right. So and I think
Speaker 1: I think I think Digger handles that that un un
Speaker 1: unforgivable or or or less than appealing role very very well.
Speaker 1: I think Chris Agaman really because that's a character you
Speaker 1: just like get out of it. But man, yes you respect.
Speaker 1: I kind of like coming back, coming back, but I
Speaker 1: supported it. I was like, yes, he's got a right
Speaker 1: and he's got a feeling too, and he's expressed him
Speaker 1: coming back. But he should have been his truth. Man.
Speaker 1: I think your life said get out of here, and
Speaker 1: only it was the right time. It was. It's like
Speaker 1: the timing was everything when she said, like, come back
Speaker 1: later this weekend, we'll chat. He should have left, but
Speaker 1: it was her place of work, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it was. But tim it looks like the only thing
Speaker 1: that was timed well somewhat was the kiss. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing that was really timed right. Everything else was true.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, but crazily it actually loved about when Digger
Speaker 1: came and Lord Laig brings him his plate of food
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they're talking, but you see Luke just
Speaker 1: watching just so yeah, he's like, what is going on
Speaker 1: over there? And who is this guy? I love Luke
Speaker 1: for going and sitting down with the guy and and
Speaker 1: calmly having a conversation like what's your deal, dude? Like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Who are you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: And then you don't fly off the handle and act insane.
Speaker 1: You know, he already did that with U with his wife.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. But that was justified. Though I
Speaker 1: thought I thought he was gonna, you know, pull out
Speaker 1: another pair of socks. I didn't realize that there is
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot we haven't covered. Okay, so
Speaker 1: the Gilmour's arrived with all their luggage. Let's play that through.
Speaker 1: That's a hot mess, right, they are a hot mess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and she finally admits they're separated. This is
Speaker 1: like the confirmation that they are indeed separated. Right, Speaking
Speaker 1: of messes, I just love that Luke arrives with the flowers,
Speaker 1: and a Lie is still just so flustered, and Luke
Speaker 1: is very cool. He's like, okay, like he's really he's
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's under undercover Joe. He's like he's playing
Speaker 1: a little too cool, isn't he. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's being romantic, but he's not compon to it, which
Speaker 1: is he hasn't worn a flannel or something like all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Luke's got game. He's got game time
Speaker 1: a hundred wow with the flowers, but not sort of like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not a romantic things to say congratulation from the
Speaker 1: opening up, here's some flowers, beautiful flowers. I'm gonna plant
Speaker 1: one emulator. But he didn't say it, you know, Oh,
Speaker 1: he nailed it. I also think there's some really major
Speaker 1: face acting if we want to peek at it, when
Speaker 1: Tom comes in in the suit and then we see
Speaker 1: Luke with Babette and Miss Patty and there's just face
Speaker 1: acting going on all over the place. Oh because her
Speaker 1: robe opened, Oh my god. Well yes, but then you
Speaker 1: have a glance with each other that I thought, oh
Speaker 1: wow with the look. Yeah, that's some that some baller
Speaker 1: face acting, as you would say, right to borrow a
Speaker 1: term baller face acting, right then, baller that was just
Speaker 1: like staring right at her. I mean, okay, so a
Speaker 1: little more okay, yeah, here comes the face. That was
Speaker 1: the moment she knew that she is so cute. Look
Speaker 1: how cute she is. He's got and Jackson's got the
Speaker 1: Credence shirt on, and Rory and Jackson are eating their
Speaker 1: dinner together and it's just also sweet. Wasn't it great
Speaker 1: to see Jackson once again? There's still good to see Jackson.
Speaker 1: Some randos that got let in randos like who are
Speaker 1: those randos? Like those two people, oh Tom in the suit?
Speaker 1: Okay are those two randos? Like they invite it? There? Okay,
Speaker 1: here it comes. So there's face acting right after this.
Speaker 1: The robe bit was hilarious. Couldn't relate to two characters
Speaker 1: more than the Bet and Patty in this scene their robes.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but there's so much face acting. See look
Speaker 1: at that that. Oh my god, oh my god, rewind
Speaker 1: rewind rewind the face acting between the two of you.
Speaker 1: Did you guys go to the school for face acting,
Speaker 1: because look at that, you're literally having a conversation with
Speaker 1: your eyeballs. Oh my god, that was it. That's an
Speaker 1: Emmy Award winning face acting. Okay, so then here comes
Speaker 1: We're still deal with the like servers whatever. But then
Speaker 1: idiot Jason comes and I like digger, but like, it
Speaker 1: was weird. If somebody did that to me and showed up, Like,
Speaker 1: imagine somebody comes to jingle Ball to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with me, I'd be like, what that is a man
Speaker 1: in love? That is a man in love who wants
Speaker 1: somebody's trying to support her and like and no, he
Speaker 1: couldn't take it anymore. He was sitting in his apartment
Speaker 1: staring at his plan for two make her like, oh
Speaker 1: you sew my parents and now you show like it
Speaker 1: was a whole thing. And I like that she said
Speaker 1: it to his face. He was he was just getting
Speaker 1: used to show the audience how desirable she truly is.
Speaker 1: I love that bet Bette knew the whole thing and
Speaker 1: she does the quick one minute catch. Luca the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It reminds me. Have you guys seen Frozen Frozen in two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and Frozen two. When Olaf tells the whole
Speaker 1: story of Frozen, one really asked, yeah, like that's what
Speaker 1: beat Beet's doing. She's like, so, first of all, sidebar,
Speaker 1: what do you think of them all playing the games?
Speaker 1: The board games? It was cute, it was fun breakfast.
Speaker 1: I wanted to figure out what all those games were,
Speaker 1: but we can do that later. I will say. The
Speaker 1: one thing that I noted about this episode was like
Speaker 1: when Laura I asked Rory to go get music, Like,
Speaker 1: by the time the music comes back, doesn't matter what happened.
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to bed. The night's over, and she's like
Speaker 1: playing and she was like at the house, like playing
Speaker 1: back the CDs to pick one. I'm like, just grab
Speaker 1: a couple of night and then she decides to quickly
Speaker 1: have sex, Like so yeah, first of all, that's not
Speaker 1: taking ten minutes, right right right? Wait, we're lor you know,
Speaker 1: we're Lorly Rory staying at the anner were they supposed
Speaker 1: to stay back at their house. There's no rooms. I
Speaker 1: think they're going home. They're going home, Okay, that's what
Speaker 1: I thought. I also um thought it was a little
Speaker 1: peculiar to me, and I kind of get we get
Speaker 1: a glimpse of it, like why weren't the Gilmour's at
Speaker 1: dinner and like why are they not noticing Jason? But
Speaker 1: I guess she like sent dinner to their weird cottage
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, why didn't they come to the dining
Speaker 1: room because she because Laura I wanted them to be
Speaker 1: together to work it out, and in the bungalow way
Speaker 1: from everybody else the TV you can't find and in
Speaker 1: the closet. Yeah, Like I'm like, I think she might
Speaker 1: even have says something about like and then you send
Speaker 1: dinner to the room whatever. So we sort of have
Speaker 1: that blow up to where that you realize, oh man,
Speaker 1: they're a mess. They're not together, they're separated. We finally
Speaker 1: have that out in the opening they see Jason. It's
Speaker 1: just like, oh god, this is so You're like, how
Speaker 1: many more people can walk in h I was glad too,
Speaker 1: it didn't become like a Threese Company episode of like, like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't do like Luke thinks she's with
Speaker 1: Jason and goes home. Do you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like that would have been like the one with the misunderstanding,
Speaker 1: Like I can't stand it. I like that lad get out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're like and you're taken and she's like, I'm not taken.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm doing everything right, you know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: And then the kiss that was quite something, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole Now, just think about in this episode, not
Speaker 1: not the prior or seasons, not excluding that, but just
Speaker 1: look at the steps, you know, the little baby steps
Speaker 1: to get to that scene. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: how many artfully crafted misdirection, confusion, how's this happening? And
Speaker 1: like I thought you were with this guy and what's
Speaker 1: going you know? I mean, it's just it's just so
Speaker 1: amazingly well written, you know, because it's just like, man,
Speaker 1: they take such care to craft things you don't expect,
Speaker 1: right because now here weren't like like the moment before
Speaker 1: the kiss, they're you know, he's kind of going at
Speaker 1: her like what the hell? You know, it's like almost
Speaker 1: an argument. I mean, it pretty much is. And it's
Speaker 1: just such a great way to ramp up to it.
Speaker 1: And but you just don't expect that, you know, really great.
Speaker 1: I like how they're sort of truthful, like I like
Speaker 1: how they're whatever transparent, Like I don't know if there
Speaker 1: are parallels between Dean and Rory and Luke and Lorely,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, Okay, I'm gonna go Luke and Lorily,
Speaker 1: Like Dean and Rory are so irritating to me compared
Speaker 1: to the like amazing I'm going. I'm going. I'm going
Speaker 1: with both of them. I love them both. The one
Speaker 1: thing I found interesting was, and Scott just brought it
Speaker 1: up that like all these moments leading up to this,
Speaker 1: like I can't imagine a show right now. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, the shows these days don't have twenty three episodes.
Speaker 1: They're at like ten, but like we've been through four
Speaker 1: full seasons to get to this moment, Like most shows
Speaker 1: can't even make it to like season two or three,
Speaker 1: and like you're here at the end of season four.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, like I didn't watch it, and it's
Speaker 1: like I think I watched like the later years and
Speaker 1: it's run original run, But like I can't imagine sitting
Speaker 1: there for four years, week after week, just waiting for
Speaker 1: them to kiss on the night on the they finally
Speaker 1: get a kiss on the ninetieth episode. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: ninety episodes. That's crazy. And that's why I bring not
Speaker 1: that these poor people back in the two thousands had
Speaker 1: to wait three months to see what's gonna happen. What
Speaker 1: did they wait for? And here's the biggest shock of
Speaker 1: the whole thing. You know, I'm just an actor in
Speaker 1: a series who got lucky, and I'm taking this great ride,
Speaker 1: right and I'm getting this great writing thrown at me
Speaker 1: and I get to act out these great scenes with
Speaker 1: these great actors. And then it's twenty three years later
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing Time Magazine, I'm seeing Hollywood Reporter, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing Rolling Stone, I'm seeing the top ten best kisses
Speaker 1: in television history, and I'm in there, And how did so?
Speaker 1: Is it? Because you know, I'm so damn appealing and
Speaker 1: such a great kisser. No, it's because the creators took
Speaker 1: ninety episodes to get us there. They took the audience
Speaker 1: along for the ride, and they will never forget it. No,
Speaker 1: they will ever their whole lives. They're going to reference
Speaker 1: Luke and Laureli first time. It's so crazy. That's the
Speaker 1: first time I've actually really thought about the fact that, like,
Speaker 1: you're on those lists. What is that? Like, it's wild,
Speaker 1: it must be cool, absolute mind, you know what it is?
Speaker 1: I see that and I go, how did I fall
Speaker 1: into that? You know? It makes me think you hear
Speaker 1: Henry Winkler like talk all the time, right, like he's
Speaker 1: that guy is just amazing. He's so nice. It's just amazing, right,
Speaker 1: and he's winning Emmys for Barry Right and Golden Globes
Speaker 1: and all these awards. He never dismisses being the fawns.
Speaker 1: He embraces it. He loves it. He'll sign a picture
Speaker 1: the fawns. Like, I just think that that's such an
Speaker 1: important like cool lesson and just like yeah, right, like
Speaker 1: remember what got you there? Yeah, and you got a place.
Speaker 1: Don't try to run away from it. And so many
Speaker 1: actors do that. No, I'm going to ruin my career
Speaker 1: if I keep you know, it's like, hey, man, honor it. Respect. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think that, like I don't
Speaker 1: want to get all like oh, you know, woo wooie
Speaker 1: hippie dippie whatever, but like you played a character that
Speaker 1: is going to that's lasting so long, like like maybe forever,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this this morning when I was getting ready for
Speaker 1: the show. It's like this was twenty plus years ago, right,
Speaker 1: or was this just nineteen years ago? This kiss? Okay,
Speaker 1: it plays as well today as twenty years ago. Like
Speaker 1: I was, like, other than the weird CDs and a
Speaker 1: couple of weird cell phones, for the most part, it's timeless.
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh my god, I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, could you I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: Burt Lancaster and uh gosh, don't hate me for not
Speaker 1: remembering the actress. But that kiss on the beach and
Speaker 1: from here to eternity. Yeah, we'd obviously never seen it.
Speaker 1: I just ate crowd. Yeah, I must be such a
Speaker 1: And this is like I've seen this scene so many
Speaker 1: times of that kiss. Also, unfortunately, I've seen so many
Speaker 1: times the um the Dean Rory one because it's just
Speaker 1: so cringey. It's so cringey and uncompass. But whatever that
Speaker 1: kiss is like on my TikTok all the time. It's
Speaker 1: just as like around today, I mean, Milo is doing
Speaker 1: interviews for his new show and is asked about Jess
Speaker 1: in almost every interview, Like, oh my god, they asked
Speaker 1: him the other day if he was team Jess or
Speaker 1: team the guy from This Is Us? Although he kids
Speaker 1: Jack and then they said are you Rory or what
Speaker 1: was Jack's wife's name? Um, repect Rebecca And he picked Rebecca,
Speaker 1: which was a little bit of a dagger. Oh really,
Speaker 1: I think Mila loved This Is Us. Brought him all
Speaker 1: the accolades and the yeah and the sure. He tells
Speaker 1: some funny stories about fans that are like, I hate
Speaker 1: you over Jess anyway, I don't know. I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy and so sad in this episode. Well,
Speaker 1: look the experience. I don't remember. I do remember the kiss.
Speaker 1: I remember playing that scene. I don't remember the scene
Speaker 1: that preceded it. I don't remember anything about that episode
Speaker 1: that I filmed. Yes, I don't remember a thing, but
Speaker 1: I do remember the kiss, and I just remember being
Speaker 1: and the both of us. You know, you know, such
Speaker 1: a good kiss, because I think it's three kisses, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if she ever comes on, if Laura ever
Speaker 1: comes on, if she can find time and her busy,
Speaker 1: very busy schedule to come on and talk to us
Speaker 1: about it. Um, you know, this is the second part
Speaker 1: of the kiss. We were both watching very very very nervous.
Speaker 1: We knew that this was a big moment. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: knew that we had to deliver for the for the fans,
Speaker 1: you know, and I say, bravo. You know it was
Speaker 1: it was nerve wracking because then it's a three part kiss.
Speaker 1: Look at this Nope, it was about to be look
Speaker 1: at his face, and then you're still the good friend.
Speaker 1: That's the thing I love about Luke is he's literally
Speaker 1: just kissed the love of his life and he still like,
Speaker 1: I got it later guy, Like yeah, Luke is a
Speaker 1: man of his word. Though he promised Kirk like that happened. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean this is like, yeah, I would say this
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest episodes of the whole Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's the biggest. It's the biggest. There's nothing I mean it.
Speaker 1: It's the end all, be all episode so far of
Speaker 1: the ninety this is number ninety. Is it season four? Man?
Speaker 1: And so so, so we're going into how is this
Speaker 1: only ninety if we're at the end of season four,
Speaker 1: twenty four plus twenty two plus twenty two plus twenty two,
Speaker 1: oh equals what I think it's ninety? Yeah, twenty forty
Speaker 1: sixty eighty four times twenty two is eighty eight plus
Speaker 1: two is ninety thank you? Oh my god? One billion
Speaker 1: is nine hundred and ninety. Did we do equations? Did
Speaker 1: we do equations? Yeah? We did. And then the person
Speaker 1: that makes our social videos nailed itself. It's not an idea.
Speaker 1: It's eighty seven eight seven minute. So I thought we
Speaker 1: did twenty four the first season in twenty two, So
Speaker 1: it's twenty one, twenty two, twenty two, twenty two. We
Speaker 1: did twenty one the first season. Okay, eighty seven, there
Speaker 1: you go, Yeah, eighty seven, all right, so it took.
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna have to reshoot this whole episode,
Speaker 1: thanks thanks to Wikipedia. I thought it was twenty five.
Speaker 1: First thing, I could be wrong, No, twenty one, all right, Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think on this episode? Uh, we're going
Speaker 1: to assign it to our own measuring sticks? So so too.
Speaker 1: How many how many nightcares? How many? How many naked
Speaker 1: Sean butts do you give it? Remind me because we're
Speaker 1: almost out of time to in pop culture. And if
Speaker 1: we have crackstaff, I have something for the crack staff.
Speaker 1: I'll do it, all right, Okay, So Scott who Danielle
Speaker 1: you go first. I had it as nine point seven
Speaker 1: five Macaroni and Cheeses. You deducted a quarter point What
Speaker 1: was the what was a deduction form? I didn't feel
Speaker 1: good after this episode? Yeah, you didn't last episode like
Speaker 1: I thought. Last episode was like that. Last episode was
Speaker 1: my unbeatable. This one did. I did not feel good.
Speaker 1: You would have preferred that that it end on the
Speaker 1: night terror kiss and then that's it. You would have
Speaker 1: felt better. Yes, that's a great, great note about the
Speaker 1: open season five with that scene between Laurel. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been mad at it either, because I loved I
Speaker 1: loved Yeah, I just it ended and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel very upset. I'm not gonna lie right now.
Speaker 1: I'm on a high and I'm also on a low,
Speaker 1: right right right. It really tears you up. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: So you're giving it a nine point seven five one,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Macaroni and cheeses, Macaronian cheeses, Ta ta what
Speaker 1: are you what you're measuring? Stick? And what are you
Speaker 1: giving it? I'm gonna give it ten CDs? Nice? And
Speaker 1: who what's CDs? Who's the artist? Oh, it's gotta be
Speaker 1: some in sync and backt there you go U nine
Speaker 1: point five nine point five either rabbit sauces or nine
Speaker 1: point five facts because the face actings. I actually will
Speaker 1: give the face acting ten, but I give the episode,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give it. Am I measuring sticks gonna
Speaker 1: be Harry eyeballs because I gave Laurelia Harry eyeball but
Speaker 1: in a good sense, you know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: was like, that was quite an eyeball, right there. I
Speaker 1: give her to the double both barrels. Uh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but this is a ten. And this is no flaws
Speaker 1: for me, you know, just because I want to spit
Speaker 1: ball about potential endings or you know, and pontificate on
Speaker 1: no moral objective occations and uh, has no bearing on
Speaker 1: how I feel about this episode. I just thought, for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, be good to bring it up.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I mean perfect episode and every way
Speaker 1: my favorite episode. Um, and it's not I mean take
Speaker 1: the Kiss Out. It's still my favorite episode, very very
Speaker 1: very on every level. I mean it just and it
Speaker 1: just had that sort of easy, breezy, delightful and this
Speaker 1: and did you notice the show was so colorful? I
Speaker 1: mean all these colors were coming out of it and
Speaker 1: here we are occupying the Dragonfly and we're seeing all
Speaker 1: this great stuff coming in and what a great setup
Speaker 1: for season five. Um. Yeah, Now it's like a new
Speaker 1: show is every everything is kind of resolved and repaired,
Speaker 1: yet there's still like there's new loose sense. There's there's
Speaker 1: Richard and Emily, yes with you know, what's going to
Speaker 1: happen with Luke and Laureli, what's gonna happen with Dean
Speaker 1: and Rory? What's going to happen? I mean, just just
Speaker 1: utter perfection. Um. This episode was written and directed by Amy.
Speaker 1: Kudos to her. I mean just just really coming into
Speaker 1: her own as a director and writer. Just you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, I still think we
Speaker 1: need a therapy session to analyze really impressive stuff, really
Speaker 1: really stuff. We might have to do that. I think,
Speaker 1: so yeah, because I want an expert to tell us
Speaker 1: about analyzing just the way Lorelai handled what Rory did
Speaker 1: and why Rory did it. Let's have let's have that wonderful.
Speaker 1: I was going to say that the fan, the fan
Speaker 1: who's a therapist, because really and there's and yes, get her,
Speaker 1: she's she's brilliant. She's absolutely brilliant. Um, yeah, have her,
Speaker 1: you know, have her, let her see this and then
Speaker 1: she can know Pine or maybe every day she sees
Speaker 1: it right exactly, all right, So that's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies. Uh Um Tara su Danielle Romo, Amy
Speaker 1: Sugarman from her San Francisco estate. I believe we're in
Speaker 1: season five. I can't believe it. It's really flying by
Speaker 1: is what? Didn't we just start this podcast? What is
Speaker 1: happening here? We just started? No, we're like two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen episodes and it's just fantastic. All right, Thank
Speaker 1: you everybody, best fans on the planet. Thanks for taking
Speaker 1: the ride with us. We really appreciate it. Love to
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