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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's it's a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. As always,

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Speaker 1: and it's the fantastic oh Man. Look at heck My

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Speaker 1: the hump Day. I mean, all of it has been fantastic.

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Speaker 1: So uh, lots of it is it is hump Day.

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Speaker 1: So now we've got something else new for talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Well it is hump Day. But guess what, there's Wednesday

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Speaker 1: Night Football or Wednesday Afternoon football to talk about, including

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Speaker 1: the team the Cowboys are going to face come up

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday. So we're going to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers today. And

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Speaker 1: it's kind of the craziest situation that you could potentially have.

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Speaker 1: I mean, RG three, Robert Griffin, the third of Texas born,

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Speaker 1: and supposedly going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I say

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Speaker 1: supposedly because there were a couple more positive tests and

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Speaker 1: everybody has to test through if they're Baltimore in order

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Speaker 1: to actually play tonight. So any other updates that you've

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Speaker 1: heard of Rob in terms of this game and how

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Speaker 1: it could potentially affect the Cowboys moving into next week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it affects the Cowboys just yet.

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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are just doing their thing, just

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Speaker 1: trying to, you know, go through their schedule and get

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Speaker 1: ready for Tuesday. It is next Tuesday, right is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be back to practice today and I

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Speaker 1: think the schedule for the Cowboys is to practice today

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Speaker 1: and practice on Friday and Saturday. So that's that looks

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Speaker 1: like what they're planning to do, and hopefully this game

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Speaker 1: stays on schedule for the third time. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as far as Raven Steelers, just what you said, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ian Rappaport was on NFL Network today saying,

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Speaker 1: like you said, there's still some POC tests they've got

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Speaker 1: to do, and they've got to wait those results before

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Speaker 1: that game can be kicked off. And there's still questions

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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to talk about them right now,

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Speaker 1: just because we don't know who they're going to have

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Speaker 1: start for him, and I know they activated Trace mcsoreley,

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Speaker 1: so they have two quarterbacks, which is I mean more

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Speaker 1: But that's something that is significant going into this game.

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Speaker 1: This game tonight doesn't necessarily affect the Cowboys outside of

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Speaker 1: the fact that it needs to get played in order

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Speaker 1: for them to play next Tuesday. That's pretty much the

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Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. How do you prepare as a Cowboys organization?

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Speaker 1: I mean they're literally out ready to practice here in

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Speaker 1: for if you're looking at a Baltimore team and you

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily know who's on the other side. Isaiah that

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Speaker 1: you might be the best one to answer that question. Well,

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Speaker 1: But aside from that, I mean, you're prepared, just like

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Speaker 1: how they're approaching it, Kyle, they I guess one of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys game. To Heckma's point talking about trying to

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Speaker 1: you played a Week eighteen and they're not part of that,

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Speaker 1: think fantasy sports plays an impact in that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about something that shouldn't influence the real game,

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Speaker 1: that could potentially be the reason for no Week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: all this stuff has timelines on it. All this stuff

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Speaker 1: but the home market bubbles is another option. And and

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Speaker 1: so maybe he you know, he knew that that would

428
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Speaker 1: probably help maybe help his cause. But I mean he

429
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Speaker 1: also looked at last year and they were the top

430
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Speaker 1: ranked offense. Now, they didn't always show it, and sometimes

431
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Speaker 1: they had trouble in the red zone. The points didn't

432
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Speaker 1: match the yards necessarily, But Kellen did a nice job

433
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Speaker 1: a year ago, and he did tell us when he

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Speaker 1: took the job that, you know, I think he did

435
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Speaker 1: take he took he gave play calling away in Green

436
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: Bay once and then I think he took it back.

437
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: But maybe with a new staff he decided being kind

438
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Speaker 1: of a walk around guy was the best thing anyway

439
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: taking over a new job. And I also think, you know,

440
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: he's got he's coming in with clout with the Super Bowl,

441
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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's I don't think it would

442
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Speaker 1: be a situation where Jerry would say, well, you know,

443
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take this, we're gonna give you this job,

444
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: you gotta have this. I think I think Mike probably

445
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: came in with enough cloud to do what he wanted. Basically, yeah,

446
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of there as well. But

447
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: whenever you talk about a guy who has been to

448
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: the mountaintop and has won a Super Bowl title, I mean,

449
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: we had talked about it in the off season as well.

450
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Speaker 1: Whenever Mike McCarthy was coming in, was was Kellen Moore

451
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Speaker 1: going to be a part of this? He was the

452
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Speaker 1: one guy in question where it seemed like he was

453
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Speaker 1: going to stick around. But even then, I think McCarthy

454
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Speaker 1: had an opportunity probably to say I want my own guys,

455
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Speaker 1: I want to run the offense, let me do this,

456
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Speaker 1: let me do that, and it probably would have it

457
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: would have sailed. I think it would have ended up

458
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Speaker 1: working out. But with this being said, I mean, there's

459
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Speaker 1: been a lot of questions on Kellen Moore. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions on McCarthy, especially with their in

461
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Speaker 1: game management. And I heard this on the way in

462
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Speaker 1: today Sean and RJ. We're talking about it on one

463
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Speaker 1: oh five through the Fan. They do great work over there,

464
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Speaker 1: but it is Jason or is Mike McCarthy a better

465
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Speaker 1: in game manager than Jason was, at least through the

466
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: small sample size that you've had throughout this season. Who

467
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: because the fact of the matter is is that was

468
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that Jason was was knocked for,

469
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: and now McCarthy's getting nocked for the fact that that's

470
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Speaker 1: even a question. Is a bit concerning, is it not? Yeah?

471
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Speaker 1: Not good. I gotta scratch my head on that one.

472
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Speaker 1: And that's not good. Um to to to date, I

473
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Speaker 1: would have to say I put them on the same

474
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Speaker 1: same pedestal. I think they're on they're on the same

475
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Speaker 1: level right now. Wow, I think if you have your thing,

476
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Speaker 1: you put them. I think that if you put them

477
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Speaker 1: on a scale right now, I think it's probably just

478
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: doing that for a second. Then it's just even and out.

479
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Speaker 1: Because some of the things that Church McCarthy has allowed

480
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Speaker 1: to happen on this on this team this year doesn't

481
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Speaker 1: make sense. UM doesn't make sense. Things that decisions that

482
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Speaker 1: Garrett's made in the past, UM doesn't make sense. And

483
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: I think they're on the total opposite end of the spectrum.

484
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: I think Garrett had has been overly conservative and I

485
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: think that McCarthy has been UM over the overly risky

486
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: UM and and so I think they're literally just leveling

487
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: each other out. That's perfect, Isaiah, Yeah, because because that

488
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: was I mean, that was a thought when when you

489
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: asked that question, Kyle, I'm like, wow, there polar opposites

490
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: of one another. And yeah, the polar opposites make it

491
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: even because, like you said, Isaiah, one super conservative, it

492
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: one it's super aggressive. And I found there several times

493
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Speaker 1: last year where I was scratching my head, you know,

494
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: trying to figure out some of the end game decisions.

495
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: And boy, I've been scratching my head a lot this year.

496
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's uh yeah, And it's not just

497
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: it's not just Mike's decisions in game that you can

498
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: question at certain points, certainly the Washington game. It's it's

499
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: kind of been across the board in terms of being

500
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: more aggressive, you know, defensively, We've talked about it. They

501
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: tried probably to put too much on the plate early

502
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: in terms of scheme, and then they pulled back offensively.

503
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: They're they're they're taking more risks, and certainly on special

504
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: teams they're taking more risk. It's almost, you know, it's

505
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: almost like the previous staff too conservative and then they've

506
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: gone in certain circumstances too far in the other direction.

507
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes that can happen with new staffs, and it's great

508
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: when it works, and when it doesn't work, that's that's

509
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: when we have these types of discussions, especially when you're

510
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: three and eight. But Rob, like, just so everybody knows,

511
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: and I know you guys already know this. Your job

512
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: as a head coach is to coach the coaches. Yeah, absolutely,

513
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: that's your job as a head coach. So whatever whatever

514
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: happens on the field and those three phases of the

515
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: game offers defense special teams, that's on you. Because even

516
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: though that you might not have called it, you allowed it. Yeah,

517
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: So if you allowed it, you might as well have

518
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: called it. So his job is to monitor the activity,

519
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: monitor the calls, monitor the schemes of these three coordinators,

520
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: and say yay or nay on what you're allowing them

521
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Speaker 1: to do. So it all falls back on him as

522
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Speaker 1: a head coach because he's supposed to manage them and

523
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Speaker 1: they supposed to manage to players. He is definitely ultimately

524
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Speaker 1: responsible and he knows that because I mean, he's the

525
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: only guy on staff who's the record is attached to

526
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: him so um and and he you know what, he

527
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: doubled down on that fake punt just like two or

528
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: three times, like we had a good look. Um yeah,

529
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he said, you can't think negatively in

530
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: those situations. But ultimately that's what happened that cost you

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Speaker 1: the football game, or at least prevented you from having

532
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: a chance in the final half of that quarter. It

533
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: is a lot, I mean, and it kind of goes

534
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: back to that that veto power that we talked about

535
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: yesterday and how Mike McCarthy and in the end, if

536
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Speaker 1: a play call comes on over the headset like that

537
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, well, maybe we shouldn't run that,

538
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: it's not a maybe, it's a hey, let's not run that,

539
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: Let's not do that. Let's let's let's punt this football away.

540
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Let's not try and do something crazy here. But like

541
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: you said, he doubled down on it. And now I

542
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: kind of respect him for it. But also I see

543
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, Isaiah. Whenever it talks about whenever

544
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about the worry of in game management, the

545
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: fact that he did double down on it, that is

546
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: a bit of a concern. Even though I think he

547
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: was just trying not to throw his coaches under the

548
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: bus at that point, or trying to throw anybody under

549
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: the bus. Now, this is another question that came from

550
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: Ismail on Twitter and he said, will we see more

551
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup? And the reason I want to ask this

552
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: is because his targets just aren't there. I mean haven't

553
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: been since Dak Prescott was really taken out in Week five.

554
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: It hasn't been the same Michael Gallup. But this is

555
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: a guy who you really needed to step up and

556
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: be either your number two receiver or even your number one,

557
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: and he's instead slotted back into number four right now,

558
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: behind even Dalton Schultz at the moment. Yeah, the situation

559
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: has kind of penalized Michael Gallup with the offensive line

560
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: all of it, the quarterback. Before the season, we're talking

561
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: about three thousand yard receivers and we're nowhere close to

562
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: You were nowhere close to that. And so I think,

563
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about Michael Gallup and just

564
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Speaker 1: what he had to do this year, I think even

565
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: everybody was even saying, ceedee lamb, Michael Gallup. Maybe you can,

566
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, look at moving Amark Cooper, which his contract

567
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: makes it literally impossible at this point. But still, you know,

568
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: you felt as though going into the season you were

569
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: going to get major contributions and you did. You said it,

570
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Kyle before the Dack injury, he was a viable option

571
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: in our offense and made these made it our offense function. Well,

572
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: right now, he just you know, he's out there pretty

573
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: much as just a decoy, uh, you know, doing a

574
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: really good job at blocking things like that, but he's

575
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: not getting an opportunity to show his playmaking abilities. And

576
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: when he has, he also has had some drops too,

577
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: So you got to include that. You know, those are

578
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: good points. Heck, yeah, those are good points. Heck. I mean,

579
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Speaker 1: he has the opportunity he has had, um he has

580
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: to take advantage of on I mean, all those opportunities

581
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: play a big role and a huge huge part in

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Speaker 1: whether or not any Dalton believes in him, right, whether

583
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: any Dalands builds a symmetry with him. Right. So when

584
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: he actually does have our opportunities to sit back there

585
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: and throw the ball without pressure and he delivers the

586
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: ball on point if the guys don't catch the ball

587
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: in his head, regardless off that guy was dependable to

588
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: Dak he's not dependable to me, right, So you lose

589
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of confidence in that player in regards

590
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: to you as a play callers. As you know, the

591
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: one at the helm the quarterback position. So when you're

592
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: playing quarterback position, you have your guys. It's not something

593
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: that's necessarily intentional. It's just something that happens. Right. You

594
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: have chemistry, you have some symmetry with guys that just natural.

595
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Right when I throw the ball, he's where I want

596
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: him to be. He breaks, his body language, how he

597
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: breaks and he makes his cuts, all those things they

598
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: work for me, right, They work for me. And it's

599
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: just and and he's there when I need him right

600
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: and when whenever he's there, he makes the play. I

601
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: could depend on that. So as we talked about in

602
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: the pregame show the other day, Kyle, you know that's

603
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: it's it's my night, night Blaker, right, my safety like here, right,

604
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: So it's somethingbody that's dependable or somebody that I always

605
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: looked for and lean lean on when I'm in certain situations.

606
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: And obviously Amari Cooper has been consistent through and through

607
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: regardless of who's that the quarterback position. So that's why

608
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: he gets that paycheck. But when it comes to the

609
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: number two and number three guys, it has to be

610
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: a field thing. It has to be a symmetry thing. Yeah,

611
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: you guys are right about the drops. I think he

612
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: had two drops against Minnesota, yep, And and you know what,

613
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: his drops last year there were really the only thing

614
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: holding him back. He was kind of near the top

615
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: of the league and drops last year. He's been better

616
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Speaker 1: with that overall this year. But I just did a

617
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: quick aggy math, So this was probably wrong of the

618
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: of the number of targets for Gallup and CD over

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00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: the last in the games that Dak's been out the

620
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: full game. So I think it's that six games now

621
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: and it's basically even. It's like forty one for Mike

622
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: and forty for CD. So you know, I think a

623
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: lot of it's probably just a product of not having

624
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: Dak the line. H're you're seeing more underneath stuff. I mean,

625
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz has kind of emerged as like you, like

626
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: you said, iaid kind of that nightnight blanket. So um,

627
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: it's just hard to know. I think to Heckma's point,

628
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I think if if Dak had been healthy in the

629
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: line had been healthy, I don't know if they would

630
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: have three thousand yard receivers, but the production for everybody

631
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: but would have been way up because you know, Ceds

632
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: CD's numbers really haven't been great either, to be honest

633
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: with you, he had a great catch against Minnesota, but um,

634
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: you know he's at yeah it missopportunities twenty one yards

635
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: three to four seventy one against Pittsburgh. Uh, you know,

636
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: the offense just has been out of sync and the

637
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: receivers have suffered from it. Well, I mean, and even

638
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: you look at Cede Lamb and Michael Gallups. Ceedie Lamb

639
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Speaker 1: fifty three receptions to Michael Gallups thirty seven. Then you

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Speaker 1: I mean, fourteen and a half yards per reception. That's

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz underneath is just under nine just over nine

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Speaker 1: Shultz is the tight end, and you could say the

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Speaker 1: But Michael Gallop is a deep threat. That's the kind

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Speaker 1: one of the bigg reasons why Gallup has just not

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Speaker 1: couple of questions lately and they've been some pretty good ones.

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Speaker 1: But this one has to do with the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of targeting not only Eagles fans, but

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Speaker 1: And it says, why is Dak a fourth round pick

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Speaker 1: who overachieved seemingly held to a higher standard than a

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Speaker 1: and also not to mention that he has regressed? Is

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Speaker 1: because he is a cowboy. And this is of course

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Speaker 1: talking about Carson Wentz, the quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: what say you, sir? That's a heck of a question.

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Speaker 1: And I really don't have a clear understanding. I only

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Speaker 1: speak from to my personal opinion that I used to

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Speaker 1: put wins in Dak on the same level. After this year,

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Speaker 1: after this year, my eyes have opened. I've been awaken.

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Speaker 1: I've been awaken and uh and I believe that Dak

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Speaker 1: is substantially more important to his to his team than

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I was one of those people that was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Wentz got him all the way to the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: then Folds took over. I was one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: But now having a look at it, Wentz doesn't have

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Speaker 1: no dog in him. He ain't got no dog in him.

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Speaker 1: And um and I can't respect anybody who doesn't have

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Speaker 1: dog in him. I don't care how it's successful of

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00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: a history they have. UM. I respect Dak, I respect

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Speaker 1: his fight, I respect his leadership. Now um that the

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00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: role that he had on his team. I was unaware

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Speaker 1: of the impact that he had on his team prior

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Speaker 1: to this season. Um, so my my perception has now changed,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know why they would even be in

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Speaker 1: the same conversation anymore. So should should Dad get more

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Speaker 1: money than Wentz? Heck to the Yeah. I know that

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Speaker 1: wasn't part of the question, but I'm throwing it in

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Speaker 1: there anyway, love it. It's fine with me. Heck heck

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Speaker 1: heck to They Yeah, go with that. So oh man,

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Speaker 1: I never thought. I never thought that Dak should have

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Speaker 1: been in the same conversation with Wins. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you should have been in the same conversation with Golf.

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Speaker 1: I've said this for a long time that Dak has

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00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: been you know, the prognosticators or draft guys who had

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00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: drafted this guy had him pegged as affordable around guy,

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00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: we're wrong about him. I think his talent, his leadership ability,

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Speaker 1: all of those things. He's a ball, he's a gamer,

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Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that you want on your team,

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Speaker 1: and he's just gonna get better. It sucks that he

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Speaker 1: got hurt this year, but it's I think what it is,

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Speaker 1: it's giving cowboy fans and everyone around an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: see what you're missing. And maybe it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: backwards to say that, you know, he's probably advanced his

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Speaker 1: career or how you think of him more in an

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Speaker 1: injury than being on the field. But I think people

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Speaker 1: will agree with that because he is a missing piece

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Speaker 1: right now and you're seeing your offense just have no synergy,

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00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: like all rhythm to what they want to do. So

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Speaker 1: you know, Dak Dak is definitely the future for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. And Carson Wentz he sucks and I love it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the best part of twenty twenty. It

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Speaker 1: really is. No, it's the best part of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: because he would be heartbreaking for me for us to

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Speaker 1: have as bad as season as we're having, and Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz would be bawling. So I'm just so happy to

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Speaker 1: see him doing so bad and he's terrible. They need

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Speaker 1: to play Jalen hit They need to play Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: Hurts yip. Carson Wentz is a nice guy. It would

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Speaker 1: be a mean. Oh. I think he's gonna be traded

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Speaker 1: after the season, That's what I think. It's it's rough

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Speaker 1: there right now, Rob. I it's who he plays for.

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Speaker 1: It's who Dak Prescott plays for. Without question, how many

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Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks do the Eagles have in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame? Is it? I guess maybe it's one? Is

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Speaker 1: it Sonny Jorgenson's It's not Captain America? And it's not

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, who's a first ballot Hall of Famer and

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00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: between them won five Super Bowls. Like that's that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. It's what It's what Tony Romo faced, and

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Speaker 1: it's what Dak Prescott faces. And and you know, and

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Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry for him in terms of the criticism.

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00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: They're making a lot of money, they're they're high profile guys,

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00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: and and uh, it's it's a great job to have,

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Speaker 1: but there's a lot that comes with it. And and

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Speaker 1: just you know, if you play for the Cowboys, you're

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Speaker 1: going to be in more of a spotlight, especially if

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00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: you played that position. Uh, you are going to be

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00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: so scrutinized, Isaiah because um, you know, as time passes

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00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: more and more, it's like, you know, Troikman never had

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00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: a misread, never threw an incompletion, you know, and and

805
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: when and when Dak does that, fans see that stuff

806
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: and they think that doesn't happen ever by anybody that

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Speaker 1: ever played the position for the Cowboys. So to me,

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Speaker 1: it's all about who you play for out there. He

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Speaker 1: was completion percentage bottom of that year, Mountain. I should

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Speaker 1: just go back, so back. So it's safe to say,

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Speaker 1: you guys don't want to trade Dak Prescott and the

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Speaker 1: fourth overall pick to the New York Jets and go

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Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence. You don't. You don't think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: You don't think that's a possibility come this offseason. Nobody else,

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Speaker 1: somebody else can have White Jesus. Okay, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to throw that out there. By the way, Chris is

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Speaker 1: doing some outstanding work in the back again, he just

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Speaker 1: did some research. This is this is not aggy map.

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Speaker 1: This is this is top notch math from Chris Beam.

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Speaker 1: But he comes up and he says that Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: should he be traded by the Philadelphia Eagles, would cost

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia fifty nine million against the cab next year. So

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Speaker 1: they're kind of stuck whenever it comes to it to

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. So that's kind of interesting whenever good it

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Speaker 1: comes to that situation. Yeah, I know, he Heckmas just

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Speaker 1: it up there in the top right here. Hey, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: will somebody Hey, but Kyle, will they be open for

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Speaker 1: somebody trading for Jalen Hurts. No, I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep him. I think they'll keep him around. Does that answer?

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Speaker 1: I think Peterson said this week that they working to

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Speaker 1: make a change at this point. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he ruled it out. So may Jalen Hurts might be

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Speaker 1: Taysom heel because he's they're starting to work him in

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Speaker 1: more and more. Yeah. Yeah, well, and it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: take that long for him to take over. I don't

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