Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, what's your name? Doug Trouts?
Speaker 2: But everybody's always called me.
Speaker 1: How's life Trouts?
Speaker 2: It's been great. I went about two months of thinking
Speaker 2: I was going to be a father, So life's great.
Speaker 1: I I'm what, uh tell me? More?
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to forgive him a little horse.
Speaker 2: I've been been a little sick lately. But basically, I
Speaker 2: had an ex girlfriend who I broke up with on
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve called me to tell me she was pregnant,
Speaker 2: So obviously I freaked the fuck out. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: still didn't talk to her because I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'd rather have got a friend of hers who I
Speaker 2: gave my number two, because I didn't think I was
Speaker 2: the father based off of all what the doctor what
Speaker 2: she was saying. The doctor told us she said she
Speaker 2: was like three weeks along, four weeks along, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't like far enough for me to not one hundred percent. No,
Speaker 2: I was not a father. But just about two weeks
Speaker 2: ago I got confirmation that she lied about the whole
Speaker 2: thing and was never pregnant.
Speaker 1: So let me get this, let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: All right, on Christmas, your ex girlfriend calls you, tells
Speaker 1: you that she's pregnant, and you kind of ignore it
Speaker 1: because you think you weren't the father and you're hitting
Speaker 1: on her friends. And then lady find out that she
Speaker 1: ignored the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So I gave her friend my number. Yeah, I gave
Speaker 2: her friend my number, not for the purpose of dating her,
Speaker 2: but for the purpose of, like, hey, if something changes
Speaker 2: and this might be my kids, please let me know.
Speaker 2: But it was like weighing on me for quite a while.
Speaker 2: She was very she had mental issues. They didn't come
Speaker 2: up until later on in her dating. So I was
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure I was, you know, if
Speaker 2: she was telling the truth. I also wasn't you know,
Speaker 2: even if she was. I knew she had seen another
Speaker 2: guy since we broke up, and it could be the
Speaker 2: other guys.
Speaker 1: What did you do when you found out that she
Speaker 1: was making this up?
Speaker 2: I went and went out and partied. We spent some
Speaker 2: of the I get better the money that I had
Speaker 2: saved up, because part of the whole thing was I
Speaker 2: was saving up in case I was going to be
Speaker 2: a dad, and I was like, I'm not have to
Speaker 2: pay child support. I'm gonna have to figure out how to,
Speaker 2: you know, pay for a car. Seat and you know,
Speaker 2: because I mean I didn't want to have a kid
Speaker 2: and not be a part of a kid's life, but
Speaker 2: I also knew I wanted nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: M So, well, I guess congrats on not being the
Speaker 1: father that's like, or I guess there was never even
Speaker 1: a child to be a father for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1: Sir, do you think you'd ever have kids or just
Speaker 1: you don't have one? With her? Because she was lying,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Well you got it right the second time, you know,
Speaker 2: because I think part of it was conflicted is in
Speaker 2: a weird way, the idea of being a dad. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, so I'm about that age. That's yeah,
Speaker 2: about right. Yeah, so there was a little bit of
Speaker 2: excitement for like, you know, being a dad would be
Speaker 2: pretty cool, but I just was like, I absolutely do
Speaker 2: not want it to be with her. M hm.
Speaker 1: Hm are you are you back out dating other other
Speaker 1: people at all?
Speaker 2: I took it was kind of weird because you know,
Speaker 2: for one, how do you even like go to a
Speaker 2: girl and say, you know, you know, you know, we
Speaker 2: went on a few dates. Also, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm a dad or not, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean, you know, do you what do you mean you
Speaker 1: don't know? I thought you knew that it was it
Speaker 1: was well fake.
Speaker 2: I meant after, I meant to after like in between
Speaker 2: that news and like in between her telling me she's pregnant,
Speaker 2: in between the lie, like finding out that she lied,
Speaker 2: So there was like a while where I was like,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't dare put another person through like having to
Speaker 2: think about that hm for me, that would be a
Speaker 2: huge like what the fuck's going on in this person's
Speaker 2: life kind of thing mhm. But I've also kind of like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's do I want to date right now?
Speaker 2: Because I feel kind of emotionally taken advantage of because
Speaker 2: like the whole point of her lie is she was
Speaker 2: trying to get back to me, her back with me,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, can I really trust somebody else again?
Speaker 3: Yea?
Speaker 2: Or yeah take everything at face value?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man, I completely understand that. It is. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's really hard when you've been kind of learned by
Speaker 1: something like that to get out there and like be
Speaker 1: able to trust people again as difficult. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer to that, because, like it
Speaker 1: it can be hard to learn how to trust folks again.
Speaker 1: But I I think, dude, I think a part of
Speaker 1: me wants to say that the solution is to like no,
Speaker 1: know for yourself that like you go about the world
Speaker 1: in the best possible way that you can, you would
Speaker 1: never do anything like that to anyone else, And if
Speaker 1: anyone betrays your trust in a way like that, that
Speaker 1: it's a reflection of them and not you. And you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully you feel that way and you kind of internalize
Speaker 1: that and it helps you sleep at night and live
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was kind of easier.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had issues with my last really long term relationship,
Speaker 2: so like four years and then I was I found
Speaker 2: out she cheated on me. It's been kind of rough
Speaker 2: trusting people and getting back out there to date. I
Speaker 2: ended up not dating for two years after that, for
Speaker 2: about a year and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, take to cheat on you, but my my
Speaker 2: normal therapist and I have worked on it for quite
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: You're you're not cheating on me because I'm not a therapist.
Speaker 1: I'm a insane, green little boy on the computer. What
Speaker 1: tell me how your therapist? Tell me what your therapists say,
Speaker 1: because like I I this is a a very interesting
Speaker 1: uh topic, and I'm I'm I'm curious what what a
Speaker 1: real therapist told you on how to deal with it?
Speaker 2: So, uh, do you want me to start with the
Speaker 2: when I first when she first that she was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Sure, you want to Well you said you said that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you, I assume told your therapist.
Speaker 1: You were like, Hey, I had this one girl cheating
Speaker 1: on me, and then I had this other girl, uh
Speaker 1: lie to me that she was pregnant. How do I
Speaker 1: put myself out there and trust people again? And I'm
Speaker 1: curious what your therapist might have said in response to that.
Speaker 2: Well, So what I told her was basically, at the moment,
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I need to take some some
Speaker 2: time to to like process that, at least right now,
Speaker 2: because I'm about two or three weeks into that. So
Speaker 2: I was like, I think I need to take some
Speaker 2: time away and just look at myself and then we
Speaker 2: can kind of come back to it, which she thought
Speaker 2: was a good idea because you don't want to go
Speaker 2: into another relationship with you know that in your mind
Speaker 2: that in your mind right now, it's not really healthy.
Speaker 1: M And where have you been able to kind of
Speaker 1: successfully do that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you are you going to go on a how's
Speaker 1: how's your journey of self discovery been going?
Speaker 2: It's been pretty nice since all of that happened. I've
Speaker 2: done well. Since I broke up with her, I've done
Speaker 2: quite a lot, very different in my life. I went
Speaker 2: on a trip by myself to New Mexico, Texas. There
Speaker 2: was another state in there, Arizona, and I spent like
Speaker 2: a week and a half to myself just with my
Speaker 2: thoughts to kind of decompress that whole situation. And after
Speaker 2: I found out that I'm not going to be a dad,
Speaker 2: I've set up a trip to Japan in September.
Speaker 1: Very cool, man. I think you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: I think I really think you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: I think your therapist is a smart person telling you
Speaker 1: that you just got to go back into yourself reflect
Speaker 1: Go to Japan. Fuck around to eat some seven eleven food.
Speaker 2: You know, I bet they have great seven elevens in Japan.
Speaker 1: If they they do have great seven eleven in Japan,
Speaker 1: I uh, nothing will cure depression. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm fucking saying. Go to go to seven eleven. Go
Speaker 1: to seven eleven in Japan. That's my not real therapist
Speaker 1: answer to this? To this, uh, to this.
Speaker 2: You know, as weird as this is gonna sound, there
Speaker 2: is a place, very American place in Japan. I do
Speaker 2: want to go where. I've worked at Costco here for
Speaker 2: almost a decade and I'm very excited to go see
Speaker 2: their costco.
Speaker 1: They have a Costco in Japan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a couple of them.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Well, yeah, I think your therapist is smart.
Speaker 1: I think going in for some deeper reflection is a
Speaker 1: good idea. Was this conversation helpful for you at all?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think yeah it was. Uh, it was kind of
Speaker 2: hard for a while. I had to keep it to
Speaker 2: my I mean I don't I never had to, but
Speaker 2: like I've I'm very I don't like to tell people
Speaker 2: my business, and so like, there was like two people
Speaker 2: in my life that knew what was going on, and
Speaker 2: it was kind of nice to get to tell a
Speaker 2: stranger and at least, you know, complain about it a
Speaker 2: little bit. But also you're like, yeah, you're doing the
Speaker 2: right thing, but looking at yourself and taking some time
Speaker 2: for yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, can I say another thing you said,
Speaker 1: twenty five is the right time to raise a family
Speaker 1: and have kids. I disagree. I think it's the right
Speaker 1: time to go to Japan.
Speaker 2: Damn straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I don't know why you're in a don't
Speaker 1: don't you know, you know, man, don't be in a rush,
Speaker 1: you know, don't be in a fucking rush to have
Speaker 1: kids and do all this shit right, like I go
Speaker 1: on go on more solo trips. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Everyone's different, every different things make everyone happy.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I definitely didn't think as I've
Speaker 2: never been on a trip by myself. I've always been
Speaker 2: with like family or friends. But I don't know you
Speaker 2: tend to you. I felt like I learned a lot
Speaker 2: about myself while I was, you know, at nobody else's
Speaker 2: needs to look at or you know, think about. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think stuff like that's important.
Speaker 1: Why is there anywhere else that you want to go
Speaker 1: on a on a solo trip too?
Speaker 2: So at the moment, there's also so I took the
Speaker 2: whole month of September off from work. But I'm also
Speaker 2: looking at going to Korea while I'm over there, and
Speaker 2: if I can get enough money together, maybe even Australia.
Speaker 1: Oh that would be cool, That would be cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do all that, you dude, don't uh, don't, don't. Don't
Speaker 1: spend a whole bunch of time like trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how you can. Uh. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I think you're doing the right thing, man, I don't.
Speaker 1: You don't need any You don't need me to tell
Speaker 1: you anything. You're doing the right thing?
Speaker 3: Is there?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: No, uh, don't eat the Tosco hot dog. Sorry, it's
Speaker 2: not that great.
Speaker 1: Take care, man, have a good rest of your night.
Speaker 2: You too, good. Thanks?
Speaker 1: Hello, Hi there. What's your name, Mike? Mike? What's up, Mike?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Well, I have a few things. I guess I could
Speaker 4: I could chat with you about I I sent you
Speaker 4: with I sent you a text. I guess there's two things.
Speaker 4: I think that that peak of my interest when it
Speaker 4: comes to speaking to you. One is my alcoholic mother
Speaker 4: and the other is my quest to be either a
Speaker 4: pro wrestler. And I'll let you decide what you think
Speaker 4: is more interesting to talk about.
Speaker 1: Well, you actually texted me. Uh, Well, you texted me
Speaker 1: those things, but you also texted me a third thing.
Speaker 1: That you didn't mention just now you you said you
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, uh, a pepsi quest.
Speaker 4: I'm on, I'm on a pepsi quest.
Speaker 1: What is a pepsi quest?
Speaker 4: I recently I was like, uh, how do is this?
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not really like a big soda guy.
Speaker 4: I kind of just like drinking water forever, you know.
Speaker 4: And I recently just like started drinking pepsi and I'm
Speaker 4: like kind of addicted, you know. And I guess my
Speaker 4: pepsi quest is too. I don't really know. I don't
Speaker 4: know if my pepsi quest has become like the the
Speaker 4: best pepsi man or to stop drinking pepsis altogether.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you what is the pet What
Speaker 1: would be involved in becoming the best pepsi man?
Speaker 4: I guess like maybe to be like a spokesperson for pepsi,
Speaker 4: you know, or like just like anything financially, Like we're
Speaker 4: like drinking so much PEPSI will like, you know, make
Speaker 4: me money in a sense, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like someone can see me like, oh, that's the pepsi guy,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like like.
Speaker 1: You could be like the Jared from Subway of pepsi,
Speaker 1: except without you know, all the bad stuff and uh,
Speaker 1: the you'd be like the opposite. You'd be like, here's
Speaker 1: this guy who you know, he was eating healthy and
Speaker 1: drinking water and he uh drank a bunch of pepsi
Speaker 1: and now he has diabetes and uh is dying.
Speaker 4: That's the thing though. Did you try that wild cherry
Speaker 4: pepsi flavor?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 4: It's like you can't put it down. It's so good.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess it sounds like you've taken
Speaker 1: after your mother, but with pepsi, which is better than alcohol.
Speaker 4: Dude, Right, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Did you want to talk about that?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess. Like so, it's like it's like
Speaker 4: a bit of a well, not really a long story.
Speaker 4: I guess it's just kind of complicated, but I'm going
Speaker 4: to like shorten it for the sake of everyone listening.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: So, like my like family has kind of been plagued
Speaker 4: with like substance abuse and like addiction and that sort
Speaker 4: of thing ever since I was like little, you know,
Speaker 4: like my father, I think he odeed when I was
Speaker 4: like sixteen, and then my uncle passed away like a
Speaker 4: month later from overdose as well, and you know my mom,
Speaker 4: you know, she's still alive and kicking and everything, but
Speaker 4: she's been like struggling with addiction since I was a
Speaker 4: kid too, you know, and it's like I feel like,
Speaker 4: with my whole family, it's been a very like a
Speaker 4: strong issue, and sometimes it's difficult. I have a hard
Speaker 4: time connecting with I guess, like I feel like I
Speaker 4: have no real connection with my parents because of that.
Speaker 1: You know, how old are you? I'm twenty, You're only twenty?
Speaker 1: Yeah I could. I thought you were in your like
Speaker 1: late thirties. Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody sees me too and thinks that because I
Speaker 4: like this big beard and shit. But now I'm just twenty.
Speaker 1: Well, god, damn. What what do you do? Where are you?
Speaker 1: Where are you in school? Are you? What's your life
Speaker 1: like as of today?
Speaker 4: Well, currently, I'm just I'm working doing delivery. I don't
Speaker 4: go to school at the moment, because when I was
Speaker 4: in high school, I just decided to not I guess,
Speaker 4: just not do it. I guess, at least not now.
Speaker 4: It just wasn't for me, you know. So right now
Speaker 4: I'm working in delivery and I'm chasing my pro wrestling dream.
Speaker 4: That's kind of my life.
Speaker 1: At the moment, pro wrestling with a plan B to
Speaker 1: be a PEPs the influencer if that doesn't work out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess essentially, you know, at the moment, that's
Speaker 4: kind of what we're working with.
Speaker 1: Talk to me more about this pro wrestling journey.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it was kind of like something that's
Speaker 4: appealed to me, and I've been into her since I
Speaker 4: was like a little kid, Like I grew up in
Speaker 4: like shitty households and I moved a lot, and like,
Speaker 4: you know, like I yess, when you grew up with
Speaker 4: a mom who's like struggles with addiction, she you know,
Speaker 4: she's like, you grew up with a lot of like
Speaker 4: different men in the house and a lot of those
Speaker 4: like really bad situations. And I feel like Pro wrestling
Speaker 4: watching it on the TV, was that one thing that
Speaker 4: kind of like distracted me and was like a comfort,
Speaker 4: you know. And I think that's why I like, out
Speaker 4: of everything I've been into since I was a kid,
Speaker 4: it was like the one thing that I guess the
Speaker 4: one thing that dragged me away, and I kind of
Speaker 4: just I've always stuck with it because of that, you know.
Speaker 1: So what is your question, Tailor, Is there like uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, are there open mics for pro wrestling?
Speaker 4: Kind of That's why it's interesting to talk to you
Speaker 4: about it because I know, like, you know, kind of
Speaker 4: you did stand up and thing like that and things
Speaker 4: like that. I think, like coming up and pro wrestling
Speaker 4: and stand up I think are very similar in the
Speaker 4: sense of like it's kind of just like making connections
Speaker 4: and finding opportunities and just like like you know, working small,
Speaker 4: really shitty shows for like little to no pay and
Speaker 4: just kind of like working your way up the ranks
Speaker 4: in that sense. You know, like I'm not I'm not
Speaker 4: a stand up guy, but I understand a lot of
Speaker 4: making it in comedy is very similar to that.
Speaker 1: You know, what is your wrestling persona.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like in between characters in the moment
Speaker 4: because I'm like very new, but I'm right now I'm
Speaker 4: like doing this kind of like little like Emo Golf character,
Speaker 4: you know, because it's like I try to my wrestling
Speaker 4: character like I'm not I'm not Emo in real life
Speaker 4: or anything, but I think my character is just me
Speaker 4: in real life times ten where it's like I'm very
Speaker 4: like since I you know, someoney gets like emotional in
Speaker 4: their head, a lot like their past trauma or whatever.
Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, if I'm gonna like
Speaker 4: talk out this in wrestling, I might as well like
Speaker 4: have an asthetic behind it. And I feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: the golf emo look is kind of very dark and
Speaker 4: into that sort of thing, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick? Or did you say, uh, goth emo
Speaker 1: or golf.
Speaker 4: Emo like emo golf? I mean, I know they're like
Speaker 4: different things or whatever, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, you didn't hear me. You didn't hear me.
Speaker 1: Did you say a like a an emo golfer or a.
Speaker 4: Goth emo the second one you said?
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you. I thought I thought I was
Speaker 1: about to be like, how the fuck did you arrive
Speaker 1: at emo golfer? That's pretty creative.
Speaker 4: Now that'd be sick. But now it's just just a
Speaker 4: little emo guy, a little emo kid.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So what is uh hmmm? What do you do you like?
Speaker 1: Do you have like lines that you've you've written?
Speaker 4: Well, I guess with wrestling, it's it's very much like
Speaker 4: like if I'm if I'm doing a match, depending on
Speaker 4: what it is, very much like you know, like say
Speaker 4: I go to a show and event the promoter will
Speaker 4: put together the matches, and if I'm facing Lyle, the
Speaker 4: guy will be the promoter be like, all right, you
Speaker 4: guys have a match. You're gonna go nine minutes. Lyle's
Speaker 4: gonna win, and Lyle's the bad guy, and Lyle's gonna
Speaker 4: cheat twin the end. The rest you guys can come
Speaker 4: up with, and me and you would just kind of
Speaker 4: talk before and figure out what we're gonna do, you know,
Speaker 4: and make it, I guess makes sense, you know, and
Speaker 4: hopefully get a reaction from the crowd and everything.
Speaker 1: You know, do you at least get like parent like,
Speaker 1: does you know how like in like real fighting they
Speaker 1: parry up by weight class, do they at least parry
Speaker 1: up with someone who looks like you kind of have
Speaker 1: a chance with.
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes, but like I think that's like the
Speaker 4: big appeal of pro wrestling is like, you know, it's
Speaker 4: very theatrical, you know, not like a smaller guy. So
Speaker 4: sometimes they'll pair me up with a much bigger man.
Speaker 4: So it's almost like that David and Goliath story, you
Speaker 4: know of like, oh, can the small underdog take down
Speaker 4: the fucking big dude twice his size?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: So it's like very theatrical and grand in that sense.
Speaker 4: You know, that's what makes it very fun and appealing
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: I think, so, hmmm, what is your name again, Mike? Mike? What?
Speaker 1: What's what's the dream in pro wrestling? What's like the
Speaker 1: the ultimate thing? Is it to end up on the WWE?
Speaker 1: Is it to like have your own show? What would
Speaker 1: be the goal?
Speaker 4: The end goal? It really is just to be able
Speaker 4: to have it support me, like be my living you know,
Speaker 4: wherever that is. You know, I don't really care. I
Speaker 4: just I wanted to. I want to make enough money
Speaker 4: to where that can be my thing, you know, because
Speaker 4: the way I see it, like getting paid to do
Speaker 4: something you would.
Speaker 3: Do for free.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's where you can say, like that
Speaker 4: I've made it in life. What's whatever that thing is?
Speaker 4: It's like if you do it for free and you're
Speaker 4: getting paid, let alone, like being able to pay your
Speaker 4: bills and ship buy it, It's like, oh, like that's all,
Speaker 4: Like what what more could I really ask for? I
Speaker 4: feel like out of life in general, you know, it's
Speaker 4: like like this fucking make money doing something that I
Speaker 4: genuinely love and like get excited to do and not
Speaker 4: like going down to the Amazon factory or flipping burgers
Speaker 4: or something, you know.
Speaker 1: M hm, Well, I don't know, man, I mean there is.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, right because there is I think a uh
Speaker 1: a hidden benefit I would say, to having what you
Speaker 1: do for fun and fulfillment and enjoyment and what you
Speaker 1: do to make a living as two separate things. But
Speaker 1: there's pros and cons of that, and then there's pros
Speaker 1: and cons of of having them be the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know I have. I have sort
Speaker 1: of unrefined thoughts and perspectives on that because I've kind
Speaker 1: of wrestled with it, no pun intended, you know, in
Speaker 1: terms of which lifestyle is better.
Speaker 4: But I mean, it's tomorrow if you could, if you could,
Speaker 4: if you like financially tomorrow well enough to retire, right,
Speaker 4: and let's just say, like you just couldn't make like
Speaker 4: you were not you made enough to retire, and you
Speaker 4: couldn't make any more money doing the thing you do
Speaker 4: that which you still just keep doing it even if
Speaker 4: you weren't making like any money.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to be honest with you about that.
Speaker 1: There are totally totally being completely honest with you, there
Speaker 1: are certain there's a lot of aspects to what I do,
Speaker 1: and I think that there would be certain aspects that
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't stop being a gecko, but I
Speaker 1: there are certain like like there's certain aspects to what
Speaker 1: I do that like make money, and then certain ones
Speaker 1: that don't. Like the ship that doesn't make money is
Speaker 1: like when I like go to Japan and interview people
Speaker 1: on the street, Like that doesn't make any money, but
Speaker 1: I love fucking doing it, So I would. I would
Speaker 1: do shit like that, and I would probably like do
Speaker 1: less like phone calls and stuff. I think. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't give up what I'm doing altogether, but I would,
Speaker 1: uh the aspects of it that I do just because
Speaker 1: I think they're fun and cool. I would probably just
Speaker 1: do one hundred percent of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine like you would find it very like
Speaker 4: if you just suddenly just stop doing the get Goo thing,
Speaker 4: you would find it like, oh shit, like.
Speaker 3: This is a big empty vot.
Speaker 4: I got to fill it with something, you know. I
Speaker 4: guess because I feel the same way with wrestling, even
Speaker 4: though it's not my living or anything, it's like the
Speaker 4: one thing I do that I have quite often that
Speaker 4: I enjoy a lot and when I find myself not
Speaker 4: doing it for like even a couple of days, I's
Speaker 4: I got shit and like like like what do I do?
Speaker 4: And I'm just sitting around doing nothing?
Speaker 1: You know, Well, how do you make money off of wrestling?
Speaker 1: Is it like through do you get paid to do
Speaker 1: like shows? Would you ever put on your own shows?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah I would if I, like, you know, had the.
Speaker 4: Like right now, I'm very much just like trying to
Speaker 4: get better at wrestling and making like connections and like
Speaker 4: that sort of thing or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Pretty much just get paid, like you know usually, I mean,
Speaker 4: especially when you're starting out. I imagine it's similar to
Speaker 4: stand up, where you're you're not making very much, sometimes
Speaker 4: like nothing, depending on the shone.
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick man, real quick, real quick? Can you
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're like covering your mouth or
Speaker 1: something or covering your phone, but you sound a little muffled.
Speaker 4: Hold on, I think my fan might be too lowed
Speaker 4: to give me a seconds?
Speaker 1: Are you there? Did you leave? Forever on?
Speaker 4: I'm here?
Speaker 1: Okay, what were you saying? You're talking about how you
Speaker 1: can make money in wrestling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of just like fine opportunities and taking
Speaker 4: whatever money you can get, you know, but starting out
Speaker 4: that's very much more like like making connections. Like say
Speaker 4: you go to a show and you wrestle, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: like I met this guy. Now he wants to put
Speaker 4: on another show. And now it's like, oh, I can
Speaker 4: make Now I can start make it a little bit
Speaker 4: of money, but it's like the exposure when you start out,
Speaker 4: very much more about the exposure and the money. You know,
Speaker 4: the money is just kind of a bonus, but you
Speaker 4: try to get exposure so down the line you can
Speaker 4: make like actual money and not like twenty.
Speaker 3: Bucks or whatever.
Speaker 4: Like like next like two weeks from now, I'm driving
Speaker 4: down to North Carolina. It's like eight or seven hour drive,
Speaker 4: you know, and I'll probably make like thirty or forty bucks.
Speaker 4: But it's a really good opportunity just to like get
Speaker 4: my name out there.
Speaker 1: And shit, you know, can I give you some advice?
Speaker 1: I want to advise you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, And this is the thing that I'm like super
Speaker 1: big on is like the way because this is kind
Speaker 1: of how I how I it works a little bit
Speaker 1: in in comedy or a least how I felt that
Speaker 1: did is like the way to get your name out
Speaker 1: there as you're talking about, is to put on your
Speaker 1: own shows, right, because you could be you know, sitting
Speaker 1: around waiting for somebody to give you an opportunity or
Speaker 1: to book you on their you know, wrestling gig that
Speaker 1: you have to drive you know, five hours down to do. Right,
Speaker 1: But what would put you in a greater advantage and
Speaker 1: also you know, establish you in the community and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day most importantly be fucking fun,
Speaker 1: is if you put on your own shows instead of
Speaker 1: waiting around for other people to to book you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you're definitely right like that. That was like,
Speaker 4: that sounds awesome and I'd love to do that. I
Speaker 4: think the only thing they'll be stopping me is just like.
Speaker 3: I guess, like.
Speaker 4: Financially, it's like when you like just like just to
Speaker 4: get a ring, like God forbid, Like if you like,
Speaker 4: I think the like, if you're getting like a really
Speaker 4: really like s tier, fucking it's probably gonna be like
Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Well what about a shitty ring?
Speaker 4: Probably a few thousand I imagine.
Speaker 1: About like building one on AM what about like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know anything about what the startup costs.
Speaker 1: Are of professional wrestling, but you know you could Di Wyatt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I'm literally like a moron, Like I
Speaker 4: don't even understand the logistics of even putting on a show,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I would love to learn.
Speaker 4: But I think also another way of getting exposed, Like
Speaker 4: you said, it's just like through social media, you know,
Speaker 4: like I'm trying to, like I post like cool little
Speaker 4: things on Instagram and shit, you know, and just like
Speaker 4: I think through the community, it's how people can see
Speaker 4: that and be like, oh, this guy is doing cool stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, Like I do a lot of like aerial
Speaker 4: moves like backflips and things like that, and I think
Speaker 4: when you get those things on video, people seeing like,
Speaker 4: oh that was really cool. I want to see that
Speaker 4: guy actually wrestled, you know. And it's like, but just
Speaker 4: getting yourself out there. That's why I think I'm not
Speaker 4: a big social media guy in terms of like liking it,
Speaker 4: but it's very good in terms of just like getting
Speaker 4: your name out there with whatever it is you do.
Speaker 1: You know, well, do you can you tell us like
Speaker 1: before we go, can you give us a line from
Speaker 1: your wrestling uh persona like something you maybe said in
Speaker 1: the ring or like how you introduce yourself or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: Oh god, that's the thing, because like I got the
Speaker 4: wrestling down and done, I'm like, I'm I'm so bad
Speaker 4: at like talking and like like that kind of ship
Speaker 4: a line. What's a line of I've said? Oh, man,
Speaker 4: I haven't cut a lot of promos yet. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: hard to do that without fucking doxing myself to say,
Speaker 4: I say my name a lot.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah, go ahead, what's what's your do
Speaker 1: you dear thing?
Speaker 4: Not my first name? I was talking about my wrestling
Speaker 4: name because my my my wrestling name is like my shoot,
Speaker 4: like I have real like last name.
Speaker 1: You know, aren't you but I don't. Aren't you making
Speaker 1: videos to try to put yourself out there?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess, I guess. I was talking in terms
Speaker 4: of like like your audience, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, whatever, whatever you want to do?
Speaker 4: Man, actually fuck it, it doesn't matter, it doesn't I don't care.
Speaker 4: So my wrestling name is Rulo. And then one of
Speaker 4: my friends was like, yo, you should say uh, don't
Speaker 4: rule out Rulo, And I was like, man, that's corny
Speaker 4: and dumb. I'm never gonna say that that's corny and dumb.
Speaker 4: But then I start then I started thinking insane, and
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, man, if I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be the underdog character and I'm just gonna start saying that,
Speaker 4: it makes sense. And it's like a lot of wrestling
Speaker 4: catchphrases are corny and silly, but like, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna say it, and I say it now. And
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes people will hear and I say like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: I want that guy to win now, and you know whatever.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I guess that's that's the one.
Speaker 1: Don't rule out rula, rock and ruler rock roll Rula.
Speaker 1: Don't rule out rock and roll rula. I like that.
Speaker 3: It's it's rulo la oh.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, terrible, It's cool? Uh Rulo? Is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 4: I guess I'll ask you one quick question I meant
Speaker 4: to ask it.
Speaker 1: I think I find.
Speaker 4: I spoke to you about, like I mentioned, how like,
Speaker 4: you know, substance abuse in my family everything. It's kind
Speaker 4: of led me ever since I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: I've pretty much just been straight edge ever since then.
Speaker 4: I have to vote in my kind of a big
Speaker 4: part of my life to being like all right, like
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of family members like go down
Speaker 4: paths and like it's I have ADHD, so I know,
Speaker 4: I'm also like very I get addicted to things very easily.
Speaker 4: So I pretty much decided to cut out like alcohol
Speaker 4: and anything like that. Yeah, how would you recommend as
Speaker 4: a young, very young man, you're very young person, just
Speaker 4: being like social big know, to be sociable and like
Speaker 4: make new friends. And that's with like that restriction that
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a really interesting question. I vibe with
Speaker 1: it because I'm trying to to like drink and smoke less.
Speaker 1: I've never been a crazy drinker, but definitely a big smoker.
Speaker 1: I mean, I dude, my truly my answer to that
Speaker 1: is like I'm well, it's a few things. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: you don't need to drink to make friends. Like all
Speaker 1: of the good friends that I have and and good
Speaker 1: life experiences that I that I have that I can
Speaker 1: think of in my life, we're not alcohol related, like
Speaker 1: alcohol like I think that that's uh, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: an a not a true postulate. I don't know who
Speaker 1: came up with that postulate. That alcohol equals friendship. That's
Speaker 1: not true in the slightest you my, I mean, my
Speaker 1: recommendation for you as a young person trying to make
Speaker 1: friends is to put on these fucking wrestling shows, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where you're gonna make all your friends
Speaker 1: is doing doing uh uh, Because this is this is
Speaker 1: a thing that you this thing you want to do,
Speaker 1: there's a scene for it, there's a community for it.
Speaker 1: And so if you contribute to that scene in that
Speaker 1: community and you show up every day, you're gonna fucking
Speaker 1: make a shit ton of friends. And you didn't have
Speaker 1: to take a sip of alcohol doing it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: the the key to making friends is to find or
Speaker 1: create a community somewhere I can contribute to it, not
Speaker 1: to fucking slam a fucking fifth a jack.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I appreciate that. Last thing I'll stay is I'll say, uh,
Speaker 4: I'll just say fucking follow me on Instagram r U
Speaker 4: L one. Oh so it's just Rulo. But the second
Speaker 4: L is at one. Maybe you've seen me some cool
Speaker 4: stuff on there maybe. And last thing out of the
Speaker 4: I noticed you use like two like background songs for
Speaker 4: your podcast for your streams, and the one with the
Speaker 4: little piano where it's like do do do do? Do
Speaker 4: that one's way back or nie, she used that one
Speaker 4: more often. It's more calming and comforting I think I have.
Speaker 1: I'm I feel so dumb because I have no idea
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But I'll do that.
Speaker 4: Okay, just listen back to your one of your things
Speaker 4: and you'll hear the exact little note.
Speaker 1: I said, take it easy, Rula, rulo, rula? Did I
Speaker 1: did I fuck it up?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: You didn't fuck it up. You got it, dude, you
Speaker 4: got it.
Speaker 1: Take care he too. Yeah, I'm on. I've been talking.
Speaker 1: I've been talking lots of shit about this. I'll keep
Speaker 1: talking lots of shit about this. I'm on my uh,
Speaker 1: trying to be on a little fitness journey. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to go to the gym, eat healthier. I'm counting my
Speaker 1: calories and my notes app all that shit. We'll see
Speaker 1: how long it lasts. We'll see how long it lasts.
Speaker 1: But part of that has been avoiding weed and alcohol.
Speaker 1: Alcohol of course, because it's like eight fucking like drink.
Speaker 1: If you drink, you need to drink like three beers
Speaker 1: to get drunk, right, something like that, And every beer
Speaker 1: has like three hundred calories. It's like a thousand calories
Speaker 1: just from drinking. It's insane. So I'm cutting that out.
Speaker 1: I never was never really a big drinker to begin with.
Speaker 1: The thing for me is is the weed, you know,
Speaker 1: because uh, it just makes you get high and it
Speaker 1: just makes me hungry. But yeah, like I said to
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna keep sucking it up. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call him R. Like I said to R, uh
Speaker 1: is is? I don't. I can't think of a there's
Speaker 1: I've had some fun nights in my life getting getting drunk,
Speaker 1: but uh, it's not the Uh how do I say, like, uh,
Speaker 1: the the crux of making friends, you know, the crux
Speaker 1: of making friends. I'll just repeat what I said to him,
Speaker 1: is is uh fostering some kind of community, which is
Speaker 1: what he can do with his wrestling thing. And I
Speaker 1: hope he hope he does it. But you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to push back on this because he
Speaker 1: was talking about how he needs ten thousand dollars. It's like, bro,
Speaker 1: isn't isn't they're all this backyard wrestling shit. Isn't that
Speaker 1: like a whole thing? Isn't that what ICP. Isn't that
Speaker 1: what the in saying clown posse he did? It's just
Speaker 1: backyard wrestling ship. Why don't you just do shit in
Speaker 1: your bed? When do you get a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: together beat the shit out of each other in their backyard?
Speaker 1: Like you know, isn't that how it's all started? I
Speaker 1: don't I I don't know. I didn't look into it,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you need ten thousand dollars. Thanks
Speaker 1: for calling our Oh and don't get Yeah, have everyone
Speaker 1: sign a waiver? Have everyone sign a waiver?
Speaker 3: R awesome? Ya?
Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 3: How you doing doing?
Speaker 1: Okay? What's your name? My name is Cam, Cam. What's up?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Would you want to talk about today?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I just recently, I've been watching you for about a
Speaker 3: year now, and I watched like a documentary that they
Speaker 3: like did on you recently and just want to say
Speaker 3: that super cool work that you do, really inspirational, Like
Speaker 3: just the fact that you allow people to kind of
Speaker 3: have like more of like a thought on their own
Speaker 3: and just kind of let them speak freely and stuff.
Speaker 3: It just really kind of showed a different perspective on
Speaker 3: interviewing process or kind of like podcasting and whatnot. So
Speaker 3: just really cool, won't let you do and everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, I appreciate you saying all those kind words. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that documentary I had, I had a lot of mixed
Speaker 1: feelings about it because it, uh, it showed off how
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty much about me being miserable,
Speaker 1: I think, which by the way, I mean, look at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, great angle, right, it's the
Speaker 1: it's it's the Polyachi the clown angle.
Speaker 3: I completely agree.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I guess I guess that's me. I'm
Speaker 1: a sad clown.
Speaker 3: No, I don't understand that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: It's just like your person out the Moon honestly, for
Speaker 3: the whole like Gecko and the whole show that you
Speaker 3: have going on. So I just I feel like it
Speaker 3: really like brings a lot of value, and I think
Speaker 3: you do a really a lot of good work for
Speaker 3: people and just making people kind of think differently and
Speaker 3: have just like a way to get something off their
Speaker 3: chest and reach out to someone that they don't really
Speaker 3: know and stuff. So it's just really cool and just
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just a really good idea. Props
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks brother, Thank you brother. I really appreciate you saying
Speaker 1: that that's nice. You're You're right, I shouldn't be. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be so uh such a fucking asshole to myself.
Speaker 1: Well anyway, kem listen, I appreciate you saying all that.
Speaker 1: I was, buddy, what's up with you? Would would you
Speaker 1: want to? Is anything particular that you wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about about yourself? Your life?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I recently have just broken up with my
Speaker 3: girlfriend and just kind of going through kind of like
Speaker 3: a rough phase for like the last few months and stuff.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, it's just kind of like being alone.
Speaker 3: We were together for about like four years or so,
Speaker 3: and kind of just being alone with yourself now and
Speaker 3: kind of reflecting on like what had transpired and what
Speaker 3: you can do better moving forward on like for like
Speaker 3: future relationships and stuff like that. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: do you have any like good like advice on like
Speaker 3: how to kind of get through it a little bit better.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to go out, like hang out with
Speaker 3: my friends and be more social and kind of get
Speaker 3: out and stuff, travel and kind of just do that
Speaker 3: whole thing, but just kind of mentally, I just kind
Speaker 3: of feel really down. I kind of feel like there's
Speaker 3: just an empty space kind of missing in my life.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know if you have insight on that.
Speaker 1: How long were you guys to go for? Did you
Speaker 1: say that?
Speaker 3: Or about four Yeah? About four years?
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, I'm insane. About four years? And how old
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 3: I just turned thirty?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow, okay, So how'd you guys first meet?
Speaker 3: We used to work at the same company and uh
Speaker 3: in a biotech company. She was a scientist and I
Speaker 3: was an engineer, and we just kind of hit it
Speaker 3: off and then we she ended up leaving from the company,
Speaker 3: and we just kept on, kept in contact and whatnot,
Speaker 3: and then I decided to apply to the same company
Speaker 3: that she was at, and then kind of we just
Speaker 3: kind of followed each other till there and started dating
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: I could have sworn you worked at a surfboard rental place.
Speaker 3: I get that all the time. I get that all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: So what what? What things have you been doing on
Speaker 1: this on this on this on this new new single
Speaker 1: life journey of yours?
Speaker 3: So I have two French bulldogs. They've been keeping me
Speaker 3: pretty happy and whatnot, and that's pretty good. I've been
Speaker 3: going out and seeing my my family more often, which
Speaker 3: I haven't been doing in the last few years and stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's been really good, going out and seeing my friends, traveling.
Speaker 3: I just got back from Thailand a few weeks ago
Speaker 3: with a couple of buddies of mine, so that was
Speaker 3: a pretty good trip. But yeah, just trying to stay
Speaker 3: busy and everything. But just yeah, just sometimes I just
Speaker 3: get really down and my thoughts and think, like, O
Speaker 3: was just kind of just is this just it? Mmm? Mmm?
Speaker 1: Is this just it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Kind of like that feeling of like being like
Speaker 3: a gear and the cog and kind of just working,
Speaker 3: waking up kind of doing that same thing and never
Speaker 3: really kind of finding happiness. I guess that kind of
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 1: What is it that gives you happiness? And in general
Speaker 1: or have you never? Have you not yet found happiness?
Speaker 3: I think I've been happy a couple of times in
Speaker 3: my life. I feel like just being being a good
Speaker 3: person to other people and just having kind of re
Speaker 3: on that. And I'm really a firm believer on once
Speaker 3: you kind of like leave this earth and you're gone, that, uh,
Speaker 3: the only thing you can really leave behind is remembrance,
Speaker 3: and so being remembered as a good and kind person.
Speaker 3: That's kind of like really really kind of set with me.
Speaker 3: And I don't know. I just I kind of try
Speaker 3: to try to do my best and just being the
Speaker 3: best I can every single day without kind of looking
Speaker 3: for anything in return. But I don't know, I kind
Speaker 3: of feel that doing more of that. I'm not looking
Speaker 3: anything from it, but I feel that I'm getting taken
Speaker 3: advantage of. And I'm starting to recognize that now by
Speaker 3: over offering myself, and that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, how do you feel that you're getting taken advantage
Speaker 1: of or that you're over offering yourself.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a type of person that would
Speaker 3: just go to the end of the world for someone
Speaker 3: as like a friend or anybody in my life. And
Speaker 3: when I'm kind of like in a rut or kind
Speaker 3: of down, I feel that that's kind of I'm kind
Speaker 3: of put in second place or kind of last place.
Speaker 3: And I know that's kind of like a bad mindset
Speaker 3: to put yourself in, kind of like expecting people to
Speaker 3: kind of be there for you, and I shouldn't put
Speaker 3: myself on that mindset, but I kind of kind of
Speaker 3: kind of get lost in time to go back into
Speaker 3: that mindset of just being like, wow, like why am
Speaker 3: I doing all of this or someone that doesn't even
Speaker 3: think or even really care about what I'm really going through.
Speaker 3: Kind of sounds selfish of me really saying it right now.
Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a that's a classic conundrum for
Speaker 1: anyone who, uh I guess identifies as a as a giver.
Speaker 1: It's like, we'll, we'll, we'll, well, the universe throw this
Speaker 1: back out at me, right, and then you're saying it's selfish,
Speaker 1: because uh, good done with the intent of receiving back
Speaker 1: is selfish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to feel like I'm like, oh I,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for something back, but just I don't know,
Speaker 3: I feel like being recognized or feeling that like you're
Speaker 3: appreciated really like means.
Speaker 1: A lot for what kind of good walk tell me
Speaker 1: about the kind of good that you that you that
Speaker 1: you give into the universe.
Speaker 3: So I'm really good into uh like dog charities and stuff.
Speaker 3: So I've been really volunteering and like dog shelters and
Speaker 3: like animal shelters because just having two dogs on my
Speaker 3: own and what's going on with just dogs and animals
Speaker 3: in general and stuff. I kind of really put a
Speaker 3: lot of time into that, spending time with like my
Speaker 3: mother who had a kidney transplant about three years ago,
Speaker 3: and she's kind of on kind of like on a
Speaker 3: on a time time frame now since of that surgery
Speaker 3: and whatnot, So it just kind of spending as much
Speaker 3: time as I can with her and and everything and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, just doing right by like my friends,
Speaker 3: doing right by like my my my, my fellow employees
Speaker 3: that I work for for my company, and just kind
Speaker 3: of just being the best person I can every day.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, mhmm. Do you ever get anything back from that?
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like there's there's something that you
Speaker 1: receive for yourself from doing all those things?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, yeah, I get it back plenty times, fulfold.
Speaker 3: But sometimes just the people that really mean a lot
Speaker 3: in my life that I'm really looking forward to, that
Speaker 3: I I kind of feel that it's certainly sometimes certainly missing,
Speaker 3: and that's kind of where I kind of just go.
Speaker 3: And I have a lot of really close friends that
Speaker 3: are really successful in life with just where they are
Speaker 3: financially or in their relationships with stuff, and I kind
Speaker 3: of always just felt like I was kind of like
Speaker 3: the black sheep in my group. I can never really
Speaker 3: get myself to where they need to be. And I'm
Speaker 3: I know, it's kind of bad setting expectations of like
Speaker 3: yourself to meet like where other people are. But I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just I feel that I'm like far behind,
Speaker 3: but everybody tells me I'm not, but I just in
Speaker 3: my mind, I feel that I'm behind.
Speaker 1: M which aspects? What is a course of career and relationships?
Speaker 1: Would you say the aspects that you feel behind in?
Speaker 3: I want to say, like most like maybe a little
Speaker 3: bit on the career side, I want to be more
Speaker 3: further in my career where that I'm at right now,
Speaker 3: But that's just kind of working your way up the
Speaker 3: ladder and taking taking a day by day aspect on it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, relationships, I just I don't know, I just
Speaker 3: the whole game of being in a relationship, the time
Speaker 3: and that you put in and then if it doesn't
Speaker 3: work out, you kind of just walk away and kind
Speaker 3: of have to just restart again. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's just really really kind of sucks and just hurts
Speaker 3: after a long run. And I don't know, it's just
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to get back into
Speaker 3: that role again. And I don't know, if you know,
Speaker 3: with now, with dating and stuff and all the apps
Speaker 3: and everything, it's just not the same how it used
Speaker 3: to be. I'm really about going to meeting someone in
Speaker 3: person rather than talking to someone on an app and stuff.
Speaker 3: So I just feel like it's gonna be a really
Speaker 3: hard challenge kind of getting back into that relationship role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hmmmmmmm, you know, man, I uh, I mean, fuck,
Speaker 1: fuck fuck dude. It's uh, well, you brought up this
Speaker 1: fucking documentary in the very beginning of all of this,
Speaker 1: and as you're talking to me, I really am thinking
Speaker 1: about everything and really am like, uh, I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to solve any
Speaker 1: of these fucking issues.
Speaker 3: I know, I probably wake up every day I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to stigure out one of these issues
Speaker 3: and try to like work. I just kind of set
Speaker 3: it up as a list and go check one off
Speaker 3: each time. But it's just like I hit a wall
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, how do I get through here
Speaker 3: onto the next step? And I don't know, And it's
Speaker 3: just it's just I guess that's just life, and I
Speaker 3: should just kinda be happy and kind of just take
Speaker 3: it as it is and just be happy for what
Speaker 3: I have. Honestly, I don't really know why I have
Speaker 3: too much to complain about.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, yeah, I feel the exact same way. I
Speaker 1: feel the exact same way. I think that that's no. Really,
Speaker 1: I would think that that's that's the thing is like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sitting here every single day, you know, upset
Speaker 1: over what I don't have instead of being grateful for
Speaker 1: everything that I do have. And I think it's it's
Speaker 1: just my mindset. That's that's kind of poisoned me in
Speaker 1: a sense. And maybe that's the same thing that's happening
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 3: I really think so too. I just kind of need
Speaker 3: to get out of this bad mindset and have a
Speaker 3: different change. From my perspective.
Speaker 1: You could also, uh it also cut your arm off.
Speaker 3: I thought about a couple of times, starting with.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how that would help,
Speaker 1: but you could do it.
Speaker 3: Well. I'm an engineer, so that might sat on my duties.
Speaker 1: I feel. Is there anything else, like the like aspect
Speaker 1: of any of this that that I can help you
Speaker 1: with or anything else? That you. Yeah, anyway, with anything
Speaker 1: else do you want out of this phone call that
Speaker 1: I can I can kind of be of help to no.
Speaker 3: I just kind of honestly, honestly right now, just so
Speaker 3: a lot better, just kind of getting it off my chest.
Speaker 1: Oh, good, good, good, just yeah.
Speaker 3: I just uh, like I said before, I just really
Speaker 3: appreciate all that you do. And I love the whole
Speaker 3: aspect of your channel and just everything that you do, man.
Speaker 3: And just props to you, and thanks for hearing me
Speaker 3: out and hearing what I have to say and everything.
Speaker 3: And even though you don't have any answers to really
Speaker 3: get back and it's all good. I just really like
Speaker 3: the fact that you just heard me out. Man, Thank
Speaker 3: you very much.
Speaker 1: Good good. Uh, let me know if you figure it out.
Speaker 1: Let me know. If you get a new beautiful girlfriend
Speaker 1: and you make a car that sells stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you can do it.
Speaker 3: So a vaccine or maybe some light innovation in the
Speaker 3: lab space, that.
Speaker 1: Would be cool. That'd be cool if you if you
Speaker 1: made the if you made a vaccine, Hey, I'll say
Speaker 1: this and I'll end to say this. What's your name
Speaker 1: one more time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cam? Oh yes, Cam, Cam, here's what I'll say. You
Speaker 1: seem like a nice guy, So if you develop any
Speaker 1: kind of vaccine, I will take it with absolutely no
Speaker 1: questions asked, just off of your your charming personality alone.
Speaker 1: I will put anything you tell me in my body.
Speaker 3: Oh man, just just make sure we go to the
Speaker 3: FDA process first.
Speaker 1: Before I know, fuck the FDA. I'm on the c
Speaker 1: A M.
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. Well, you'll be first
Speaker 3: in line. I'll make sure I get a band aid
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Take care cam, Thank you brother.
Speaker 3: I have a wonderful day. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Goes on the line taking your song calls every night.
Speaker 1: The Repacon goes to his hide. You're just teaching you
Speaker 1: about in the line, but he's not really an expert.