WEBVTT - THE PEPSI QUEST

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Hey, what's your name? Doug Trouts?

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody's always called me.

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<v Speaker 1>How's life Trouts?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been great. I went about two months of thinking

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to be a father, So life's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm what, uh tell me? More?

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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna have to forgive him a little horse.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been been a little sick lately. But basically, I

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<v Speaker 2>had an ex girlfriend who I broke up with on

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Eve called me to tell me she was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously I freaked the fuck out. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>still didn't talk to her because I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather have got a friend of hers who I

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<v Speaker 2>gave my number two, because I didn't think I was

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<v Speaker 2>the father based off of all what the doctor what

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<v Speaker 2>she was saying. The doctor told us she said she

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<v Speaker 2>was like three weeks along, four weeks along, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like far enough for me to not one hundred percent. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I was not a father. But just about two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago I got confirmation that she lied about the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing and was never pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me get this, let me get this straight.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, on Christmas, your ex girlfriend calls you, tells

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<v Speaker 1>you that she's pregnant, and you kind of ignore it

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<v Speaker 1>because you think you weren't the father and you're hitting

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<v Speaker 1>on her friends. And then lady find out that she

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<v Speaker 1>ignored the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I gave her friend my number. Yeah, I gave

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<v Speaker 2>her friend my number, not for the purpose of dating her,

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<v Speaker 2>but for the purpose of, like, hey, if something changes

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<v Speaker 2>and this might be my kids, please let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like weighing on me for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 2>She was very she had mental issues. They didn't come

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<v Speaker 2>up until later on in her dating. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>not one hundred percent sure I was, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>she was telling the truth. I also wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even if she was. I knew she had seen another

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<v Speaker 2>guy since we broke up, and it could be the

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<v Speaker 2>other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do when you found out that she

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<v Speaker 1>was making this up?

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<v Speaker 2>I went and went out and partied. We spent some

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<v Speaker 2>of the I get better the money that I had

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<v Speaker 2>saved up, because part of the whole thing was I

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<v Speaker 2>was saving up in case I was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a dad, and I was like, I'm not have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay child support. I'm gonna have to figure out how to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pay for a car. Seat and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean I didn't want to have a kid

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<v Speaker 2>and not be a part of a kid's life, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also knew I wanted nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>M So, well, I guess congrats on not being the

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<v Speaker 1>father that's like, or I guess there was never even

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<v Speaker 1>a child to be a father for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, do you think you'd ever have kids or just

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have one? With her? Because she was lying,

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you got it right the second time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think part of it was conflicted is in

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<v Speaker 2>a weird way, the idea of being a dad. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty five, so I'm about that age. That's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>about right. Yeah, so there was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>excitement for like, you know, being a dad would be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool, but I just was like, I absolutely do

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<v Speaker 2>not want it to be with her. M hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm are you are you back out dating other other

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<v Speaker 1>people at all?

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<v Speaker 2>I took it was kind of weird because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, how do you even like go to a

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<v Speaker 2>girl and say, you know, you know, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>went on a few dates. Also, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a dad or not, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, you know, do you what do you mean you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know? I thought you knew that it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was well fake.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant after, I meant to after like in between

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<v Speaker 2>that news and like in between her telling me she's pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>in between the lie, like finding out that she lied,

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<v Speaker 2>So there was like a while where I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't dare put another person through like having to

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<v Speaker 2>think about that hm for me, that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>huge like what the fuck's going on in this person's

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<v Speaker 2>life kind of thing mhm. But I've also kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's do I want to date right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel kind of emotionally taken advantage of because

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole point of her lie is she was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get back to me, her back with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, can I really trust somebody else again?

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<v Speaker 3>Yea?

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<v Speaker 2>Or yeah take everything at face value?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man, I completely understand that. It is. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard when you've been kind of learned by

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<v Speaker 1>something like that to get out there and like be

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<v Speaker 1>able to trust people again as difficult. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have an answer to that, because, like it

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<v Speaker 1>it can be hard to learn how to trust folks again.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I think, dude, I think a part of

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<v Speaker 1>me wants to say that the solution is to like no,

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<v Speaker 1>know for yourself that like you go about the world

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<v Speaker 1>in the best possible way that you can, you would

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<v Speaker 1>never do anything like that to anyone else, And if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone betrays your trust in a way like that, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a reflection of them and not you. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you feel that way and you kind of internalize

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<v Speaker 1>that and it helps you sleep at night and live

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was kind of easier.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I had issues with my last really long term relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>so like four years and then I was I found

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<v Speaker 2>out she cheated on me. It's been kind of rough

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<v Speaker 2>trusting people and getting back out there to date. I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up not dating for two years after that, for

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<v Speaker 2>about a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh, take to cheat on you, but my my

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<v Speaker 2>normal therapist and I have worked on it for quite

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're not cheating on me because I'm not a therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a insane, green little boy on the computer. What

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<v Speaker 1>tell me how your therapist? Tell me what your therapists say,

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<v Speaker 1>because like I I this is a a very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>uh topic, and I'm I'm I'm curious what what a

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<v Speaker 1>real therapist told you on how to deal with it?

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, do you want me to start with the

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<v Speaker 2>when I first when she first that she was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you want to Well you said you said that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean you, I assume told your therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, Hey, I had this one girl cheating

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<v Speaker 1>on me, and then I had this other girl, uh

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<v Speaker 1>lie to me that she was pregnant. How do I

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<v Speaker 1>put myself out there and trust people again? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious what your therapist might have said in response to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, So what I told her was basically, at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, I need to take some some

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<v Speaker 2>time to to like process that, at least right now,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm about two or three weeks into that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I think I need to take some

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<v Speaker 2>time away and just look at myself and then we

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of come back to it, which she thought

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<v Speaker 2>was a good idea because you don't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>into another relationship with you know that in your mind

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<v Speaker 2>that in your mind right now, it's not really healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>M And where have you been able to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>successfully do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you are you going to go on a how's

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<v Speaker 1>how's your journey of self discovery been going?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been pretty nice since all of that happened. I've

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<v Speaker 2>done well. Since I broke up with her, I've done

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<v Speaker 2>quite a lot, very different in my life. I went

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<v Speaker 2>on a trip by myself to New Mexico, Texas. There

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<v Speaker 2>was another state in there, Arizona, and I spent like

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<v Speaker 2>a week and a half to myself just with my

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts to kind of decompress that whole situation. And after

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<v Speaker 2>I found out that I'm not going to be a dad,

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<v Speaker 2>I've set up a trip to Japan in September.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool, man. I think you're doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I really think you're doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think your therapist is a smart person telling you

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<v Speaker 1>that you just got to go back into yourself reflect

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<v Speaker 1>Go to Japan. Fuck around to eat some seven eleven food.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I bet they have great seven elevens in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>If they they do have great seven eleven in Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>I uh, nothing will cure depression. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fucking saying. Go to go to seven eleven. Go

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<v Speaker 1>to seven eleven in Japan. That's my not real therapist

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<v Speaker 1>answer to this? To this, uh, to this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as weird as this is gonna sound, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a place, very American place in Japan. I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to go where. I've worked at Costco here for

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<v Speaker 2>almost a decade and I'm very excited to go see

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<v Speaker 2>their costco.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a Costco in Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. Well, yeah, I think your therapist is smart.

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<v Speaker 1>I think going in for some deeper reflection is a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. Was this conversation helpful for you at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think yeah it was. Uh, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hard for a while. I had to keep it to

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<v Speaker 2>my I mean I don't I never had to, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I've I'm very I don't like to tell people

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<v Speaker 2>my business, and so like, there was like two people

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<v Speaker 2>in my life that knew what was going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of nice to get to tell a

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<v Speaker 2>stranger and at least, you know, complain about it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. But also you're like, yeah, you're doing the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing, but looking at yourself and taking some time

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, can I say another thing you said,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five is the right time to raise a family

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<v Speaker 1>and have kids. I disagree. I think it's the right

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<v Speaker 1>time to go to Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, I don't know why you're in a don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, you know, man, don't be in a rush,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't be in a fucking rush to have

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<v Speaker 1>kids and do all this shit right, like I go

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<v Speaker 1>on go on more solo trips. I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's different, every different things make everyone happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I mean I definitely didn't think as I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been on a trip by myself. I've always been

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<v Speaker 2>with like family or friends. But I don't know you

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<v Speaker 2>tend to you. I felt like I learned a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about myself while I was, you know, at nobody else's

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<v Speaker 2>needs to look at or you know, think about. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think stuff like that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is there anywhere else that you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a on a solo trip too?

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<v Speaker 2>So at the moment, there's also so I took the

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<v Speaker 2>whole month of September off from work. But I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>looking at going to Korea while I'm over there, and

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<v Speaker 2>if I can get enough money together, maybe even Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that would be cool, That would be cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do all that, you dude, don't uh, don't, don't. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>spend a whole bunch of time like trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how you can. Uh. I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I think you're doing the right thing, man, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need any You don't need me to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you anything. You're doing the right thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 2>No, uh, don't eat the Tosco hot dog. Sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that great.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care, man, have a good rest of your night.

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<v Speaker 2>You too, good. Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi there. What's your name, Mike? Mike? What's up, Mike?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have a few things. I guess I could

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<v Speaker 4>I could chat with you about I I sent you

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<v Speaker 4>with I sent you a text. I guess there's two things.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that peak of my interest when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to speaking to you. One is my alcoholic mother

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<v Speaker 4>and the other is my quest to be either a

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<v Speaker 4>pro wrestler. And I'll let you decide what you think

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<v Speaker 4>is more interesting to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you actually texted me. Uh, Well, you texted me

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<v Speaker 1>those things, but you also texted me a third thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That you didn't mention just now you you said you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about, uh, a pepsi quest.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on, I'm on a pepsi quest.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a pepsi quest?

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<v Speaker 4>I recently I was like, uh, how do is this?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm not really like a big soda guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of just like drinking water forever, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I recently just like started drinking pepsi and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of addicted, you know. And I guess my

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<v Speaker 4>pepsi quest is too. I don't really know. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if my pepsi quest has become like the the

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<v Speaker 4>best pepsi man or to stop drinking pepsis altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you what is the pet What

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<v Speaker 1>would be involved in becoming the best pepsi man?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess like maybe to be like a spokesperson for pepsi,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, or like just like anything financially, Like we're

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<v Speaker 4>like drinking so much PEPSI will like, you know, make

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<v Speaker 4>me money in a sense, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Like someone can see me like, oh, that's the pepsi guy,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Like like.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be like the Jared from Subway of pepsi,

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<v Speaker 1>except without you know, all the bad stuff and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the you'd be like the opposite. You'd be like, here's

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<v Speaker 1>this guy who you know, he was eating healthy and

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<v Speaker 1>drinking water and he uh drank a bunch of pepsi

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<v Speaker 1>and now he has diabetes and uh is dying.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing though. Did you try that wild cherry

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<v Speaker 4>pepsi flavor?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you can't put it down. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I guess it sounds like you've taken

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<v Speaker 1>after your mother, but with pepsi, which is better than alcohol.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, Right, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want to talk about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I guess. Like so, it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of a well, not really a long story.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's just kind of complicated, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to like shorten it for the sake of everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>So, like my like family has kind of been plagued

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<v Speaker 4>with like substance abuse and like addiction and that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of thing ever since I was like little, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like my father, I think he odeed when I was

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<v Speaker 4>like sixteen, and then my uncle passed away like a

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<v Speaker 4>month later from overdose as well, and you know my mom,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, she's still alive and kicking and everything, but

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<v Speaker 4>she's been like struggling with addiction since I was a

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<v Speaker 4>kid too, you know, and it's like I feel like,

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<v Speaker 4>with my whole family, it's been a very like a

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<v Speaker 4>strong issue, and sometimes it's difficult. I have a hard

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<v Speaker 4>time connecting with I guess, like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 4>have no real connection with my parents because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how old are you? I'm twenty, You're only twenty?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I could. I thought you were in your like

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<v Speaker 1>late thirties. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, everybody sees me too and thinks that because I

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<v Speaker 4>like this big beard and shit. But now I'm just twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, god, damn. What what do you do? Where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you in school? Are you? What's your life

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<v Speaker 1>like as of today?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, currently, I'm just I'm working doing delivery. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>go to school at the moment, because when I was

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<v Speaker 4>in high school, I just decided to not I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>just not do it. I guess, at least not now.

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<v Speaker 4>It just wasn't for me, you know. So right now

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<v Speaker 4>I'm working in delivery and I'm chasing my pro wrestling dream.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>At the moment, pro wrestling with a plan B to

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<v Speaker 1>be a PEPs the influencer if that doesn't work out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess essentially, you know, at the moment, that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of what we're working with.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me more about this pro wrestling journey.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, it was kind of like something that's

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<v Speaker 4>appealed to me, and I've been into her since I

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<v Speaker 4>was like a little kid, Like I grew up in

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<v Speaker 4>like shitty households and I moved a lot, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like I yess, when you grew up with

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<v Speaker 4>a mom who's like struggles with addiction, she you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she's like, you grew up with a lot of like

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<v Speaker 4>different men in the house and a lot of those

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<v Speaker 4>like really bad situations. And I feel like Pro wrestling

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<v Speaker 4>watching it on the TV, was that one thing that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like distracted me and was like a comfort,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And I think that's why I like, out

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<v Speaker 4>of everything I've been into since I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>it was like the one thing that I guess the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing that dragged me away, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just I've always stuck with it because of that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is your question, Tailor, Is there like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, are there open mics for pro wrestling?

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of That's why it's interesting to talk to you

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<v Speaker 4>about it because I know, like, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>you did stand up and thing like that and things

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<v Speaker 4>like that. I think, like coming up and pro wrestling

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<v Speaker 4>and stand up I think are very similar in the

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<v Speaker 4>sense of like it's kind of just like making connections

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<v Speaker 4>and finding opportunities and just like like you know, working small,

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<v Speaker 4>really shitty shows for like little to no pay and

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of like working your way up the ranks

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<v Speaker 4>in that sense. You know, like I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a stand up guy, but I understand a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>making it in comedy is very similar to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what is your wrestling persona.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of like in between characters in the moment

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm like very new, but I'm right now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like doing this kind of like little like Emo Golf character,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because it's like I try to my wrestling

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<v Speaker 4>character like I'm not I'm not Emo in real life

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<v Speaker 4>or anything, but I think my character is just me

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<v Speaker 4>in real life times ten where it's like I'm very

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<v Speaker 4>like since I you know, someoney gets like emotional in

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<v Speaker 4>their head, a lot like their past trauma or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, all right, if I'm gonna like

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<v Speaker 4>talk out this in wrestling, I might as well like

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<v Speaker 4>have an asthetic behind it. And I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the golf emo look is kind of very dark and

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<v Speaker 4>into that sort of thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick? Or did you say, uh, goth emo

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<v Speaker 1>or golf.

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<v Speaker 4>Emo like emo golf? I mean, I know they're like

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<v Speaker 4>different things or whatever, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, no, no, you didn't hear me. You didn't hear me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you say a like a an emo golfer or a.

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<v Speaker 4>Goth emo the second one you said?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I thought you. I thought I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to be like, how the fuck did you arrive

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<v Speaker 1>at emo golfer? That's pretty creative.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that'd be sick. But now it's just just a

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<v Speaker 4>little emo guy, a little emo kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is uh hmmm? What do you do you like?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have like lines that you've you've written?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess with wrestling, it's it's very much like

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<v Speaker 4>like if I'm if I'm doing a match, depending on

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<v Speaker 4>what it is, very much like you know, like say

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<v Speaker 4>I go to a show and event the promoter will

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<v Speaker 4>put together the matches, and if I'm facing Lyle, the

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<v Speaker 4>guy will be the promoter be like, all right, you

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<v Speaker 4>guys have a match. You're gonna go nine minutes. Lyle's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna win, and Lyle's the bad guy, and Lyle's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>cheat twin the end. The rest you guys can come

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<v Speaker 4>up with, and me and you would just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>talk before and figure out what we're gonna do, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and make it, I guess makes sense, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully get a reaction from the crowd and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do you at least get like parent like,

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<v Speaker 1>does you know how like in like real fighting they

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<v Speaker 1>parry up by weight class, do they at least parry

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<v Speaker 1>up with someone who looks like you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance with.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean sometimes, but like I think that's like the

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<v Speaker 4>big appeal of pro wrestling is like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>very theatrical, you know, not like a smaller guy. So

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes they'll pair me up with a much bigger man.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's almost like that David and Goliath story, you

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<v Speaker 4>know of like, oh, can the small underdog take down

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<v Speaker 4>the fucking big dude twice his size?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like very theatrical and grand in that sense.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's what makes it very fun and appealing

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<v Speaker 4>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, so, hmmm, what is your name again, Mike? Mike? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's the dream in pro wrestling? What's like the

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate thing? Is it to end up on the WWE?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it to like have your own show? What would

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<v Speaker 1>be the goal?

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<v Speaker 4>The end goal? It really is just to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to have it support me, like be my living you know,

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<v Speaker 4>wherever that is. You know, I don't really care. I

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<v Speaker 4>just I wanted to. I want to make enough money

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<v Speaker 4>to where that can be my thing, you know, because

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<v Speaker 4>the way I see it, like getting paid to do

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<v Speaker 4>something you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Do for free.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's where you can say, like that

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<v Speaker 4>I've made it in life. What's whatever that thing is?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like if you do it for free and you're

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<v Speaker 4>getting paid, let alone, like being able to pay your

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<v Speaker 4>bills and ship buy it, It's like, oh, like that's all,

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<v Speaker 4>Like what what more could I really ask for? I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like out of life in general, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like like this fucking make money doing something that I

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely love and like get excited to do and not

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<v Speaker 4>like going down to the Amazon factory or flipping burgers

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<v Speaker 4>or something, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, Well, I don't know, man, I mean there is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, right because there is I think a uh

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<v Speaker 1>a hidden benefit I would say, to having what you

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<v Speaker 1>do for fun and fulfillment and enjoyment and what you

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<v Speaker 1>do to make a living as two separate things. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's pros and cons of that, and then there's pros

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<v Speaker 1>and cons of of having them be the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know I have. I have sort

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<v Speaker 1>of unrefined thoughts and perspectives on that because I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wrestled with it, no pun intended, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of which lifestyle is better.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, it's tomorrow if you could, if you could,

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<v Speaker 4>if you like financially tomorrow well enough to retire, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and let's just say, like you just couldn't make like

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<v Speaker 4>you were not you made enough to retire, and you

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't make any more money doing the thing you do

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<v Speaker 4>that which you still just keep doing it even if

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<v Speaker 4>you weren't making like any money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I want to be honest with you about that.

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<v Speaker 1>There are totally totally being completely honest with you, there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain there's a lot of aspects to what I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that there would be certain aspects that

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<v Speaker 1>I would I wouldn't stop being a gecko, but I

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain like like there's certain aspects to what

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<v Speaker 1>I do that like make money, and then certain ones

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<v Speaker 1>that don't. Like the ship that doesn't make money is

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<v Speaker 1>like when I like go to Japan and interview people

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<v Speaker 1>on the street, Like that doesn't make any money, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love fucking doing it, So I would. I would

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<v Speaker 1>do shit like that, and I would probably like do

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<v Speaker 1>less like phone calls and stuff. I think. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't give up what I'm doing altogether, but I would,

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<v Speaker 1>uh the aspects of it that I do just because

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they're fun and cool. I would probably just

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>do one hundred percent of those.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I imagine like you would find it very like

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 4>if you just suddenly just stop doing the get Goo thing,

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 4>you would find it like, oh shit, like.

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>This is a big empty vot.

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 4>I got to fill it with something, you know. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess because I feel the same way with wrestling, even

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 4>though it's not my living or anything, it's like the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing I do that I have quite often that

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoy a lot and when I find myself not

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<v Speaker 4>doing it for like even a couple of days, I's

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I got shit and like like like what do I do?

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 4>And I'm just sitting around doing nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, how do you make money off of wrestling?

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Is it like through do you get paid to do

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<v Speaker 1>like shows? Would you ever put on your own shows?

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah I would if I, like, you know, had the.

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 4>Like right now, I'm very much just like trying to

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 4>get better at wrestling and making like connections and like

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of thing or whatever.

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you.

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 4>Pretty much just get paid, like you know usually, I mean,

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 4>especially when you're starting out. I imagine it's similar to

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 4>stand up, where you're you're not making very much, sometimes

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 4>like nothing, depending on the shone.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, real quick man, real quick, real quick? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're like covering your mouth or

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 1>something or covering your phone, but you sound a little muffled.

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, I think my fan might be too lowed

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 4>to give me a seconds?

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you there? Did you leave? Forever on?

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm here?

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what were you saying? You're talking about how you

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>can make money in wrestling.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's kind of just like fine opportunities and taking

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 4>whatever money you can get, you know, but starting out

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:10.959
<v Speaker 4>that's very much more like like making connections. Like say

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 4>you go to a show and you wrestle, and it's like, oh,

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 4>like I met this guy. Now he wants to put

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 4>on another show. And now it's like, oh, I can

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 4>make Now I can start make it a little bit

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 4>of money, but it's like the exposure when you start out,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 4>very much more about the exposure and the money. You know,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 4>the money is just kind of a bonus, but you

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 4>try to get exposure so down the line you can

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 4>make like actual money and not like twenty.

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Bucks or whatever.

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 4>Like like next like two weeks from now, I'm driving

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 4>down to North Carolina. It's like eight or seven hour drive,

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I'll probably make like thirty or forty bucks.

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 4>But it's a really good opportunity just to like get

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 4>my name out there.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>And shit, you know, can I give you some advice?

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to advise you.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So, And this is the thing that I'm like super

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>big on is like the way because this is kind

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of how I how I it works a little bit

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in in comedy or a least how I felt that

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>did is like the way to get your name out

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>there as you're talking about, is to put on your

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>own shows, right, because you could be you know, sitting

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>around waiting for somebody to give you an opportunity or

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 1>to book you on their you know, wrestling gig that

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you have to drive you know, five hours down to do. Right,

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>But what would put you in a greater advantage and

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>also you know, establish you in the community and at

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day most importantly be fucking fun,

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>is if you put on your own shows instead of

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>waiting around for other people to to book you.

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you're definitely right like that. That was like,

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 4>that sounds awesome and I'd love to do that. I

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 4>think the only thing they'll be stopping me is just like.

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I guess, like.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Financially, it's like when you like just like just to

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 4>get a ring, like God forbid, Like if you like,

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 4>I think the like, if you're getting like a really

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 4>really like s tier, fucking it's probably gonna be like

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 4>ten thousand dollars.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Well what about a shitty ring?

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 4>Probably a few thousand I imagine.

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>About like building one on AM what about like I

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know anything about what the startup costs.

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Are of professional wrestling, but you know you could Di Wyatt.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know. I'm literally like a moron, Like I

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 4>don't even understand the logistics of even putting on a show,

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 4>to be honest with you, I would love to learn.

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 4>But I think also another way of getting exposed, Like

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 4>you said, it's just like through social media, you know,

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 4>like I'm trying to, like I post like cool little

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 4>things on Instagram and shit, you know, and just like

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 4>I think through the community, it's how people can see

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 4>that and be like, oh, this guy is doing cool stuff.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, Like I do a lot of like aerial

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 4>moves like backflips and things like that, and I think

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 4>when you get those things on video, people seeing like,

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 4>oh that was really cool. I want to see that

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 4>guy actually wrestled, you know. And it's like, but just

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 4>getting yourself out there. That's why I think I'm not

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 4>a big social media guy in terms of like liking it,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 4>but it's very good in terms of just like getting

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 4>your name out there with whatever it is you do.

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, well, do you can you tell us like

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>before we go, can you give us a line from

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>your wrestling uh persona like something you maybe said in

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the ring or like how you introduce yourself or something

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh god, that's the thing, because like I got the

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 4>wrestling down and done, I'm like, I'm I'm so bad

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 4>at like talking and like like that kind of ship

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>a line. What's a line of I've said? Oh, man,

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 4>I haven't cut a lot of promos yet. Yeah, it's

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 4>hard to do that without fucking doxing myself to say,

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 4>I say my name a lot.

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, yeah, go ahead, what's what's your do

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you dear thing?

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Not my first name? I was talking about my wrestling

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 4>name because my my my wrestling name is like my shoot,

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 4>like I have real like last name.

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, aren't you but I don't. Aren't you making

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>videos to try to put yourself out there?

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I guess, I guess. I was talking in terms

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 4>of like like your audience, you know what I mean?

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you? I mean, whatever, whatever you want to do?

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Man, actually fuck it, it doesn't matter, it doesn't I don't care.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 4>So my wrestling name is Rulo. And then one of

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>my friends was like, yo, you should say uh, don't

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 4>rule out Rulo, And I was like, man, that's corny

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 4>and dumb. I'm never gonna say that that's corny and dumb.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 4>But then I start then I started thinking insane, and

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I was like, you know what, man, if I'm gonna

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 4>be the underdog character and I'm just gonna start saying that,

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 4>it makes sense. And it's like a lot of wrestling

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 4>catchphrases are corny and silly, but like, fuck it, I'm

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 4>just gonna say it, and I say it now. And

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, sometimes people will hear and I say like, hey, yeah,

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 4>I want that guy to win now, and you know whatever.

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I guess that's that's the one.

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't rule out rula, rock and ruler rock roll Rula.

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't rule out rock and roll rula. I like that.

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 3>It's it's rulo la oh.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Fuck yeah, terrible, It's cool? Uh Rulo? Is there anything

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>else you want to say to the people of the

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>computer before we go?

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 4>I guess I'll ask you one quick question I meant

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 4>to ask it.

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I find.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I spoke to you about, like I mentioned, how like,

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, substance abuse in my family everything. It's kind

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 4>of led me ever since I was like, you know,

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I've pretty much just been straight edge ever since then.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 4>I have to vote in my kind of a big

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 4>part of my life to being like all right, like

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 4>I've had a lot of family members like go down

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 4>paths and like it's I have ADHD, so I know,

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm also like very I get addicted to things very easily.

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 4>So I pretty much decided to cut out like alcohol

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 4>and anything like that. Yeah, how would you recommend as

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 4>a young, very young man, you're very young person, just

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 4>being like social big know, to be sociable and like

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 4>make new friends. And that's with like that restriction that

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 4>I have.

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a really interesting question. I vibe with

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>it because I'm trying to to like drink and smoke less.

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I've never been a crazy drinker, but definitely a big smoker.

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I dude, my truly my answer to that

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is like I'm well, it's a few things. It's like, well,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to drink to make friends. Like all

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>of the good friends that I have and and good

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>life experiences that I that I have that I can

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>think of in my life, we're not alcohol related, like

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:44.959
<v Speaker 1>alcohol like I think that that's uh, that's that's that's

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>an a not a true postulate. I don't know who

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 1>came up with that postulate. That alcohol equals friendship. That's

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>not true in the slightest you my, I mean, my

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>recommendation for you as a young person trying to make

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>friends is to put on these fucking wrestling shows, you know.

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's where you're gonna make all your friends

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is doing doing uh uh, Because this is this is

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>a thing that you this thing you want to do,

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a scene for it, there's a community for it.

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And so if you contribute to that scene in that

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>community and you show up every day, you're gonna fucking

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>make a shit ton of friends. And you didn't have

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 1>to take a sip of alcohol doing it. So, you know,

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the the key to making friends is to find or

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>create a community somewhere I can contribute to it, not

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to fucking slam a fucking fifth a jack.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I appreciate that. Last thing I'll stay is I'll say, uh,

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 4>I'll just say fucking follow me on Instagram r U

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 4>L one. Oh so it's just Rulo. But the second

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 4>L is at one. Maybe you've seen me some cool

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 4>stuff on there maybe. And last thing out of the

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 4>I noticed you use like two like background songs for

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 4>your podcast for your streams, and the one with the

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 4>little piano where it's like do do do do? Do

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:00.879
<v Speaker 4>that one's way back or nie, she used that one

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 4>more often. It's more calming and comforting I think I have.

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm I feel so dumb because I have no idea

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. But I'll do that.

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, just listen back to your one of your things

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 4>and you'll hear the exact little note.

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I said, take it easy, Rula, rulo, rula? Did I

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>did I fuck it up?

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 4>You didn't fuck it up. You got it, dude, you

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 4>got it.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Take care he too. Yeah, I'm on. I've been talking.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been talking lots of shit about this. I'll keep

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>talking lots of shit about this. I'm on my uh,

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to be on a little fitness journey. I'm trying

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to go to the gym, eat healthier. I'm counting my

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 1>calories and my notes app all that shit. We'll see

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>how long it lasts. We'll see how long it lasts.

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>But part of that has been avoiding weed and alcohol.

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Alcohol of course, because it's like eight fucking like drink.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>If you drink, you need to drink like three beers

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to get drunk, right, something like that, And every beer

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>has like three hundred calories. It's like a thousand calories

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>just from drinking. It's insane. So I'm cutting that out.

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I never was never really a big drinker to begin with.

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>The thing for me is is the weed, you know,

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>because uh, it just makes you get high and it

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>just makes me hungry. But yeah, like I said to

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just gonna keep sucking it up. I'm

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna call him R. Like I said to R, uh

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>is is? I don't. I can't think of a there's

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I've had some fun nights in my life getting getting drunk,

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but uh, it's not the Uh how do I say, like, uh,

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the the crux of making friends, you know, the crux

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of making friends. I'll just repeat what I said to him,

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>is is uh fostering some kind of community, which is

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>what he can do with his wrestling thing. And I

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>hope he hope he does it. But you know, I

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of wanted to push back on this because he

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>was talking about how he needs ten thousand dollars. It's like, bro,

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't isn't they're all this backyard wrestling shit. Isn't that

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like a whole thing? Isn't that what ICP. Isn't that

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>what the in saying clown posse he did? It's just

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>backyard wrestling ship. Why don't you just do shit in

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>your bed? When do you get a bunch of guys

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>together beat the shit out of each other in their backyard?

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, isn't that how it's all started? I

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>don't I I don't know. I didn't look into it,

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think you need ten thousand dollars. Thanks

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 1>for calling our Oh and don't get Yeah, have everyone

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>sign a waiver? Have everyone sign a waiver?

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>R awesome? Ya?

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, Hey, what's up?

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 3>How you doing doing?

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay? What's your name? My name is Cam, Cam. What's up?

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Would you want to talk about today?

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 3>I just recently, I've been watching you for about a

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 3>year now, and I watched like a documentary that they

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 3>like did on you recently and just want to say

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 3>that super cool work that you do, really inspirational, Like

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 3>just the fact that you allow people to kind of

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 3>have like more of like a thought on their own

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and just kind of let them speak freely and stuff.

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 3>It just really kind of showed a different perspective on

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 3>interviewing process or kind of like podcasting and whatnot. So

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 3>just really cool, won't let you do and everything.

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, man, I appreciate you saying all those kind words. Yeah,

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that documentary I had, I had a lot of mixed

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 1>feelings about it because it, uh, it showed off how

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was pretty much about me being miserable,

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, which by the way, I mean, look at

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, great angle, right, it's the

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the Polyachi the clown angle.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I completely agree.

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I guess I guess that's me. I'm

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a sad clown.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't understand that.

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:10.879
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 3>It's just like your person out the Moon honestly, for

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 3>the whole like Gecko and the whole show that you

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 3>have going on. So I just I feel like it

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 3>really like brings a lot of value, and I think

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 3>you do a really a lot of good work for

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 3>people and just making people kind of think differently and

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 3>have just like a way to get something off their

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 3>chest and reach out to someone that they don't really

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 3>know and stuff. So it's just really cool and just

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's just a really good idea. Props

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 3>to you.

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Thanks brother, Thank you brother. I really appreciate you saying

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that that's nice. You're You're right, I shouldn't be. I

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be so uh such a fucking asshole to myself.

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Well anyway, kem listen, I appreciate you saying all that.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I was, buddy, what's up with you? Would would you

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 1>want to? Is anything particular that you wanted to talk

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>about about yourself? Your life?

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I recently have just broken up with my

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend and just kind of going through kind of like

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 3>a rough phase for like the last few months and stuff.

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, it's just kind of like being alone.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 3>We were together for about like four years or so,

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 3>and kind of just being alone with yourself now and

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of reflecting on like what had transpired and what

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 3>you can do better moving forward on like for like

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 3>future relationships and stuff like that. But I don't know,

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 3>do you have any like good like advice on like

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 3>how to kind of get through it a little bit better.

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I've been trying to go out, like hang out with

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 3>my friends and be more social and kind of get

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 3>out and stuff, travel and kind of just do that

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 3>whole thing, but just kind of mentally, I just kind

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 3>of feel really down. I kind of feel like there's

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 3>just an empty space kind of missing in my life.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I don't know if you have insight on that.

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>How long were you guys to go for? Did you

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>say that?

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Or about four Yeah? About four years?

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, sorry, I'm insane. About four years? And how old

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>are you?

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I just turned thirty?

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, wow, okay, So how'd you guys first meet?

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 3>We used to work at the same company and uh

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 3>in a biotech company. She was a scientist and I

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 3>was an engineer, and we just kind of hit it

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 3>off and then we she ended up leaving from the company,

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 3>and we just kept on, kept in contact and whatnot,

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 3>and then I decided to apply to the same company

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 3>that she was at, and then kind of we just

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of followed each other till there and started dating

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:36.919
<v Speaker 3>each other.

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I could have sworn you worked at a surfboard rental place.

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I get that all the time. I get that all

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 3>the time.

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So what what? What things have you been doing on

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>this on this on this on this new new single

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>life journey of yours?

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 3>So I have two French bulldogs. They've been keeping me

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 3>pretty happy and whatnot, and that's pretty good. I've been

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 3>going out and seeing my my family more often, which

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I haven't been doing in the last few years and stuff.

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 3>So that's been really good, going out and seeing my friends, traveling.

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I just got back from Thailand a few weeks ago

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 3>with a couple of buddies of mine, so that was

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good trip. But yeah, just trying to stay

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 3>busy and everything. But just yeah, just sometimes I just

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 3>get really down and my thoughts and think, like, O

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 3>was just kind of just is this just it? Mmm? Mmm?

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Is this just it?

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Kind of like that feeling of like being like

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 3>a gear and the cog and kind of just working,

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>waking up kind of doing that same thing and never

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 3>really kind of finding happiness. I guess that kind of

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 3>makes sense.

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>What is it that gives you happiness? And in general

0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>or have you never? Have you not yet found happiness?

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I think I've been happy a couple of times in

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 3>my life. I feel like just being being a good

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 3>person to other people and just having kind of re

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 3>on that. And I'm really a firm believer on once

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 3>you kind of like leave this earth and you're gone, that, uh,

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 3>the only thing you can really leave behind is remembrance,

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 3>and so being remembered as a good and kind person.

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of like really really kind of set with me.

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know. I just I kind of try

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 3>to try to do my best and just being the

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 3>best I can every single day without kind of looking

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 3>for anything in return. But I don't know, I kind

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 3>of feel that doing more of that. I'm not looking

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 3>anything from it, but I feel that I'm getting taken

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 3>advantage of. And I'm starting to recognize that now by

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 3>over offering myself, and that kind of makes sense.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, how do you feel that you're getting taken advantage

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of or that you're over offering yourself.

0:44:58.239 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.919
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm a type of person that would

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 3>just go to the end of the world for someone

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>as like a friend or anybody in my life. And

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 3>when I'm kind of like in a rut or kind

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 3>of down, I feel that that's kind of I'm kind

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 3>of put in second place or kind of last place.

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And I know that's kind of like a bad mindset

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 3>to put yourself in, kind of like expecting people to

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of be there for you, and I shouldn't put

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 3>myself on that mindset, but I kind of kind of

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:27.879
<v Speaker 3>kind of get lost in time to go back into

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 3>that mindset of just being like, wow, like why am

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 3>I doing all of this or someone that doesn't even

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.919
<v Speaker 3>think or even really care about what I'm really going through.

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Kind of sounds selfish of me really saying it right now.

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 1>No, that's a that's a that's a classic conundrum for

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>anyone who, uh I guess identifies as a as a giver.

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, we'll, we'll, we'll, well, the universe throw this

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>back out at me, right, and then you're saying it's selfish,

0:45:56.000 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>because uh, good done with the intent of receiving back

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is selfish.

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't want to feel like I'm like, oh I,

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for something back, but just I don't know,

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel like being recognized or feeling that like you're

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 3>appreciated really like means.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>A lot for what kind of good walk tell me

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>about the kind of good that you that you that

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you give into the universe.

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:25.240
<v Speaker 3>So I'm really good into uh like dog charities and stuff.

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 3>So I've been really volunteering and like dog shelters and

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 3>like animal shelters because just having two dogs on my

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 3>own and what's going on with just dogs and animals

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 3>in general and stuff. I kind of really put a

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of time into that, spending time with like my

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 3>mother who had a kidney transplant about three years ago,

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 3>and she's kind of on kind of like on a

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 3>on a time time frame now since of that surgery

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 3>and whatnot, So it just kind of spending as much

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 3>time as I can with her and and everything and whatnot.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, just doing right by like my friends,

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 3>doing right by like my my my, my fellow employees

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 3>that I work for for my company, and just kind

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 3>of just being the best person I can every day.

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, mhmm. Do you ever get anything back from that?

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever feel like there's there's something that you

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>receive for yourself from doing all those things?

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, of course, yeah, I get it back plenty times, fulfold.

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 3>But sometimes just the people that really mean a lot

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 3>in my life that I'm really looking forward to, that

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I I kind of feel that it's certainly sometimes certainly missing,

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 3>and that's kind of where I kind of just go.

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 3>And I have a lot of really close friends that

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 3>are really successful in life with just where they are

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 3>financially or in their relationships with stuff, and I kind

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 3>of always just felt like I was kind of like

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 3>the black sheep in my group. I can never really

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 3>get myself to where they need to be. And I'm

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's kind of bad setting expectations of like

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 3>yourself to meet like where other people are. But I

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I just I feel that I'm like far behind,

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 3>but everybody tells me I'm not, but I just in

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 3>my mind, I feel that I'm behind.

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>M which aspects? What is a course of career and relationships?

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Would you say the aspects that you feel behind in?

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 3>I want to say, like most like maybe a little

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.879
<v Speaker 3>bit on the career side, I want to be more

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:37.959
<v Speaker 3>further in my career where that I'm at right now,

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 3>But that's just kind of working your way up the

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>ladder and taking taking a day by day aspect on it.

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, relationships, I just I don't know, I just

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.280
<v Speaker 3>the whole game of being in a relationship, the time

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 3>and that you put in and then if it doesn't

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 3>work out, you kind of just walk away and kind

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 3>of have to just restart again. And I don't know,

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 3>it's just really really kind of sucks and just hurts

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 3>after a long run. And I don't know, it's just

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I want to get back into

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 3>that role again. And I don't know, if you know,

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:13.280
<v Speaker 3>with now, with dating and stuff and all the apps

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 3>and everything, it's just not the same how it used

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to be. I'm really about going to meeting someone in

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 3>person rather than talking to someone on an app and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just feel like it's gonna be a really

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<v Speaker 3>hard challenge kind of getting back into that relationship role.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hmmmmmmm, you know, man, I uh, I mean, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck fuck dude. It's uh, well, you brought up this

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<v Speaker 1>fucking documentary in the very beginning of all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you're talking to me, I really am thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about everything and really am like, uh, I mean, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know how to solve any

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<v Speaker 1>of these fucking issues.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I probably wake up every day I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna try to stigure out one of these issues

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<v Speaker 3>and try to like work. I just kind of set

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<v Speaker 3>it up as a list and go check one off

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<v Speaker 3>each time. But it's just like I hit a wall

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like, how do I get through here

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<v Speaker 3>onto the next step? And I don't know, And it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it's just I guess that's just life, and I

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<v Speaker 3>should just kinda be happy and kind of just take

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<v Speaker 3>it as it is and just be happy for what

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<v Speaker 3>I have. Honestly, I don't really know why I have

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<v Speaker 3>too much to complain about.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Yeah, yeah, I feel the exact same way. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel the exact same way. I think that that's no. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that that's that's the thing is like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sitting here every single day, you know, upset

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<v Speaker 1>over what I don't have instead of being grateful for

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I do have. And I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just my mindset. That's that's kind of poisoned me in

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<v Speaker 1>a sense. And maybe that's the same thing that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I really think so too. I just kind of need

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<v Speaker 3>to get out of this bad mindset and have a

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<v Speaker 3>different change. From my perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also, uh it also cut your arm off.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about a couple of times, starting with.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know how that would help,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I'm an engineer, so that might sat on my duties.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel. Is there anything else, like the like aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of any of this that that I can help you

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<v Speaker 1>with or anything else? That you. Yeah, anyway, with anything

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<v Speaker 1>else do you want out of this phone call that

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<v Speaker 1>I can I can kind of be of help to no.

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<v Speaker 3>I just kind of honestly, honestly right now, just so

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<v Speaker 3>a lot better, just kind of getting it off my chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, good, good, good, just yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just uh, like I said before, I just really

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate all that you do. And I love the whole

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<v Speaker 3>aspect of your channel and just everything that you do, man.

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<v Speaker 3>And just props to you, and thanks for hearing me

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<v Speaker 3>out and hearing what I have to say and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though you don't have any answers to really

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<v Speaker 3>get back and it's all good. I just really like

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that you just heard me out. Man, Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Good good. Uh, let me know if you figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me know. If you get a new beautiful girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>and you make a car that sells stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So a vaccine or maybe some light innovation in the

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<v Speaker 3>lab space, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be cool. That'd be cool if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>made the if you made a vaccine, Hey, I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>this and I'll end to say this. What's your name

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<v Speaker 1>one more time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Cam? Oh yes, Cam, Cam, here's what I'll say. You

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<v Speaker 1>seem like a nice guy, So if you develop any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of vaccine, I will take it with absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>questions asked, just off of your your charming personality alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I will put anything you tell me in my body.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, just just make sure we go to the

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<v Speaker 3>FDA process first.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I know, fuck the FDA. I'm on the c

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<v Speaker 1>A M.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, there you go. Well, you'll be first

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<v Speaker 3>in line. I'll make sure I get a band aid

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. Take care cam, Thank you brother.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a wonderful day. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes on the line taking your song calls every night.

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<v Speaker 1>The Repacon goes to his hide. You're just teaching you

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<v Speaker 1>about in the line, but he's not really an expert.