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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, what's your name? Doug Trouts?

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Speaker 2: But everybody's always called me.

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Speaker 1: How's life Trouts?

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Speaker 2: It's been great. I went about two months of thinking

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Speaker 2: I was going to be a father, So life's great.

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Speaker 1: I I'm what, uh tell me? More?

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to forgive him a little horse.

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Speaker 2: I've been been a little sick lately. But basically, I

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Speaker 2: had an ex girlfriend who I broke up with on

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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve called me to tell me she was pregnant,

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Speaker 2: So obviously I freaked the fuck out. And yeah, I

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Speaker 2: still didn't talk to her because I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have got a friend of hers who I

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Speaker 2: gave my number two, because I didn't think I was

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Speaker 2: the father based off of all what the doctor what

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Speaker 2: she was saying. The doctor told us she said she

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Speaker 2: was like three weeks along, four weeks along, but it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like far enough for me to not one hundred percent. No,

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Speaker 2: I was not a father. But just about two weeks

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Speaker 2: ago I got confirmation that she lied about the whole

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Speaker 1: So let me get this, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 1: All right, on Christmas, your ex girlfriend calls you, tells

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Speaker 1: you that she's pregnant, and you kind of ignore it

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Speaker 1: because you think you weren't the father and you're hitting

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Speaker 1: on her friends. And then lady find out that she

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Speaker 1: ignored the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So I gave her friend my number. Yeah, I gave

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Speaker 2: her friend my number, not for the purpose of dating her,

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Speaker 2: but for the purpose of, like, hey, if something changes

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Speaker 2: and this might be my kids, please let me know.

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Speaker 2: But it was like weighing on me for quite a while.

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Speaker 2: She was very she had mental issues. They didn't come

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Speaker 2: up until later on in her dating. So I was

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Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure I was, you know, if

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Speaker 2: she was telling the truth. I also wasn't you know,

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Speaker 2: even if she was. I knew she had seen another

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Speaker 1: What did you do when you found out that she

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Speaker 1: was making this up?

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Speaker 2: I went and went out and partied. We spent some

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Speaker 2: of the I get better the money that I had

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Speaker 2: saved up, because part of the whole thing was I

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Speaker 2: was saving up in case I was going to be

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Speaker 2: a dad, and I was like, I'm not have to

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Speaker 2: pay child support. I'm gonna have to figure out how to,

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Speaker 2: you know, pay for a car. Seat and you know,

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Speaker 2: because I mean I didn't want to have a kid

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Speaker 2: and not be a part of a kid's life, but

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Speaker 2: I also knew I wanted nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 1: M So, well, I guess congrats on not being the

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Speaker 1: father that's like, or I guess there was never even

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Speaker 1: a child to be a father for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.

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Speaker 1: Sir, do you think you'd ever have kids or just

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Speaker 1: you don't have one? With her? Because she was lying,

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Speaker 2: Well you got it right the second time, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I think part of it was conflicted is in

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Speaker 2: a weird way, the idea of being a dad. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, so I'm about that age. That's yeah,

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Speaker 2: pretty cool, but I just was like, I absolutely do

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Speaker 2: not want it to be with her. M hm.

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Speaker 1: Hm are you are you back out dating other other

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Speaker 2: I took it was kind of weird because you know,

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Speaker 2: went on a few dates. Also, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Mean, you know, do you what do you mean you

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Speaker 1: don't know? I thought you knew that it was it

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Speaker 2: I meant after, I meant to after like in between

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Speaker 2: that news and like in between her telling me she's pregnant,

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Speaker 2: So there was like a while where I was like,

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Speaker 2: huge like what the fuck's going on in this person's

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Speaker 2: life kind of thing mhm. But I've also kind of like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's do I want to date right now?

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Speaker 3: Yea?

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Speaker 2: Or yeah take everything at face value?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man, I completely understand that. It is. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't have an answer to that, because, like it

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Speaker 1: it can be hard to learn how to trust folks again.

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Speaker 1: But I I think, dude, I think a part of

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Speaker 1: me wants to say that the solution is to like no,

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Speaker 1: in the best possible way that you can, you would

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Speaker 1: it's a reflection of them and not you. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was kind of easier.

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Speaker 2: I had issues with my last really long term relationship,

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Speaker 2: so like four years and then I was I found

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Speaker 2: out she cheated on me. It's been kind of rough

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Speaker 2: trusting people and getting back out there to date. I

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Speaker 2: about a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, take to cheat on you, but my my

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Speaker 1: You're you're not cheating on me because I'm not a therapist.

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Speaker 1: I'm a insane, green little boy on the computer. What

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Speaker 1: tell me how your therapist? Tell me what your therapists say,

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Speaker 1: because like I I this is a a very interesting

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Speaker 2: So, uh, do you want me to start with the

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Speaker 2: when I first when she first that she was pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you want to Well you said you said that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you, I assume told your therapist.

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Speaker 1: You were like, Hey, I had this one girl cheating

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Speaker 1: curious what your therapist might have said in response to that.

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Speaker 2: Well, So what I told her was basically, at the moment,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I think I need to take some

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Speaker 2: was a good idea because you don't want to go

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Speaker 2: into another relationship with you know that in your mind

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Speaker 2: that in your mind right now, it's not really healthy.

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Speaker 1: M And where have you been able to kind of

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you are you going to go on a how's

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Speaker 1: how's your journey of self discovery been going?

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty nice since all of that happened. I've

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Speaker 2: done well. Since I broke up with her, I've done

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Speaker 2: quite a lot, very different in my life. I went

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Speaker 2: on a trip by myself to New Mexico, Texas. There

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Speaker 2: I found out that I'm not going to be a dad,

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Speaker 2: I've set up a trip to Japan in September.

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Speaker 1: Very cool, man. I think you're doing the right thing.

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Speaker 1: I think I really think you're doing the right thing.

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Speaker 1: I think your therapist is a smart person telling you

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Speaker 1: that you just got to go back into yourself reflect

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Speaker 1: Go to Japan. Fuck around to eat some seven eleven food.

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Speaker 2: You know, I bet they have great seven elevens in Japan.

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Speaker 1: If they they do have great seven eleven in Japan,

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Speaker 1: I uh, nothing will cure depression. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm fucking saying. Go to go to seven eleven. Go

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Speaker 1: to seven eleven in Japan. That's my not real therapist

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Speaker 2: You know, as weird as this is gonna sound, there

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Speaker 2: is a place, very American place in Japan. I do

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Speaker 2: want to go where. I've worked at Costco here for

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Speaker 1: They have a Costco in Japan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a couple of them.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Well, yeah, I think your therapist is smart.

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Speaker 1: I think going in for some deeper reflection is a

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Speaker 2: I think yeah it was. Uh, it was kind of

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Speaker 2: little bit. But also you're like, yeah, you're doing the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, can I say another thing you said,

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Speaker 1: twenty five is the right time to raise a family

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Speaker 1: and have kids. I disagree. I think it's the right

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Speaker 1: time to go to Japan.

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Speaker 2: Damn straight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I don't know why you're in a don't

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Speaker 1: don't you know, you know, man, don't be in a rush,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't be in a fucking rush to have

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Speaker 1: on go on more solo trips. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's different, every different things make everyone happy.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I definitely didn't think as I've

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Speaker 2: never been on a trip by myself. I've always been

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Speaker 2: with like family or friends. But I don't know you

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Speaker 2: tend to you. I felt like I learned a lot

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Speaker 2: needs to look at or you know, think about. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think stuff like that's important.

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Speaker 1: Why is there anywhere else that you want to go

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Speaker 1: on a on a solo trip too?

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Speaker 2: So at the moment, there's also so I took the

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Speaker 2: whole month of September off from work. But I'm also

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Speaker 2: looking at going to Korea while I'm over there, and

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Speaker 2: if I can get enough money together, maybe even Australia.

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Speaker 1: Oh that would be cool, That would be cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do all that, you dude, don't uh, don't, don't. Don't

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Speaker 2: No, uh, don't eat the Tosco hot dog. Sorry, it's

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Speaker 2: You too, good. Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi there. What's your name, Mike? Mike? What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: Well, I have a few things. I guess I could

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Speaker 4: I could chat with you about I I sent you

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Speaker 4: I think that that peak of my interest when it

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Speaker 1: Well, you actually texted me. Uh, Well, you texted me

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Speaker 4: I'm on, I'm on a pepsi quest.

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Speaker 1: What is a pepsi quest?

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Speaker 4: I recently I was like, uh, how do is this?

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Speaker 1: You know, what do you what is the pet What

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Speaker 4: I guess like maybe to be like a spokesperson for pepsi,

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Speaker 4: Like someone can see me like, oh, that's the pepsi guy,

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Speaker 1: You could be like the Jared from Subway of pepsi,

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Speaker 4: That's the thing though. Did you try that wild cherry

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 4: It's like you can't put it down. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess it sounds like you've taken

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Speaker 1: Did you want to talk about that?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess. Like so, it's like it's like

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 4: So, like my like family has kind of been plagued

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Speaker 1: You know, how old are you? I'm twenty, You're only twenty?

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Speaker 1: Yeah I could. I thought you were in your like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody sees me too and thinks that because I

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Speaker 1: Well, god, damn. What what do you do? Where are you?

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Speaker 1: Where are you in school? Are you? What's your life

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Speaker 4: Well, currently, I'm just I'm working doing delivery. I don't

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Speaker 4: It just wasn't for me, you know. So right now

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Speaker 4: That's kind of my life.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, pro wrestling with a plan B to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess essentially, you know, at the moment, that's

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Speaker 1: Talk to me more about this pro wrestling journey.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it was kind of like something that's

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Speaker 1: So what is your question, Tailor, Is there like uh,

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Speaker 4: Kind of That's why it's interesting to talk to you

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Speaker 4: about it because I know, like, you know, kind of

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Speaker 4: in that sense. You know, like I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: You know, what is your wrestling persona.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of like in between characters in the moment

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Speaker 4: like doing this kind of like little like Emo Golf character,

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Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, if I'm gonna like

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Speaker 1: Okay, real quick? Or did you say, uh, goth emo

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Speaker 4: Emo like emo golf? I mean, I know they're like

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, you didn't hear me. You didn't hear me.

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Speaker 1: Did you say a like a an emo golfer or a.

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Speaker 4: Goth emo the second one you said?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you. I thought I thought I was

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Speaker 4: Now that'd be sick. But now it's just just a

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: So what is uh hmmm? What do you do you like?

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Speaker 1: Do you have like lines that you've you've written?

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess with wrestling, it's it's very much like

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Speaker 1: You know, do you at least get like parent like,

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Speaker 4: I mean sometimes, but like I think that's like the

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Speaker 4: So it's almost like that David and Goliath story, you

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Speaker 4: So it's like very theatrical and grand in that sense.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's what makes it very fun and appealing

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Speaker 1: I think, so, hmmm, what is your name again, Mike? Mike? What?

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Speaker 1: What's what's the dream in pro wrestling? What's like the

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Speaker 4: The end goal? It really is just to be able

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Speaker 4: to have it support me, like be my living you know,

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Speaker 4: wherever that is. You know, I don't really care. I

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Speaker 4: the way I see it, like getting paid to do

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's where you can say, like that

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Speaker 4: It's like if you do it for free and you're

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Speaker 4: Like what what more could I really ask for? I

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Speaker 1: of unrefined thoughts and perspectives on that because I've kind

439
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: of wrestled with it, no pun intended, you know, in

440
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: terms of which lifestyle is better.

441
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 4: But I mean, it's tomorrow if you could, if you could,

442
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 4: if you like financially tomorrow well enough to retire, right,

443
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: and let's just say, like you just couldn't make like

444
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: you were not you made enough to retire, and you

445
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: couldn't make any more money doing the thing you do

446
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 4: that which you still just keep doing it even if

447
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: you weren't making like any money.

448
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: You know, I want to be honest with you about that.

449
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: There are totally totally being completely honest with you, there

450
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: are certain there's a lot of aspects to what I do,

451
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: and I think that there would be certain aspects that

452
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't stop being a gecko, but I

453
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: there are certain like like there's certain aspects to what

454
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: I do that like make money, and then certain ones

455
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 1: that don't. Like the ship that doesn't make money is

456
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: like when I like go to Japan and interview people

457
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: on the street, Like that doesn't make any money, but

458
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: I love fucking doing it, So I would. I would

459
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: do shit like that, and I would probably like do

460
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: less like phone calls and stuff. I think. So I

461
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't give up what I'm doing altogether, but I would,

462
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: uh the aspects of it that I do just because

463
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: I think they're fun and cool. I would probably just

464
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: do one hundred percent of those.

465
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine like you would find it very like

466
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: if you just suddenly just stop doing the get Goo thing,

467
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: you would find it like, oh shit, like.

468
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: This is a big empty vot.

469
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: I got to fill it with something, you know. I

470
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: guess because I feel the same way with wrestling, even

471
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: though it's not my living or anything, it's like the

472
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: one thing I do that I have quite often that

473
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: I enjoy a lot and when I find myself not

474
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: doing it for like even a couple of days, I's

475
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 4: I got shit and like like like what do I do?

476
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: And I'm just sitting around doing nothing?

477
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, Well, how do you make money off of wrestling?

478
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: Is it like through do you get paid to do

479
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: like shows? Would you ever put on your own shows?

480
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah I would if I, like, you know, had the.

481
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 4: Like right now, I'm very much just like trying to

482
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: get better at wrestling and making like connections and like

483
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 4: that sort of thing or whatever.

484
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, you.

485
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: Pretty much just get paid, like you know usually, I mean,

486
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 4: especially when you're starting out. I imagine it's similar to

487
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: stand up, where you're you're not making very much, sometimes

488
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: like nothing, depending on the shone.

489
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick man, real quick, real quick? Can you

490
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're like covering your mouth or

491
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: something or covering your phone, but you sound a little muffled.

492
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 4: Hold on, I think my fan might be too lowed

493
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: to give me a seconds?

494
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Are you there? Did you leave? Forever on?

495
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: I'm here?

496
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: Okay, what were you saying? You're talking about how you

497
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: can make money in wrestling.

498
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of just like fine opportunities and taking

499
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 4: whatever money you can get, you know, but starting out

500
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 4: that's very much more like like making connections. Like say

501
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: you go to a show and you wrestle, and it's like, oh,

502
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: like I met this guy. Now he wants to put

503
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: on another show. And now it's like, oh, I can

504
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: make Now I can start make it a little bit

505
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 4: of money, but it's like the exposure when you start out,

506
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: very much more about the exposure and the money. You know,

507
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 4: the money is just kind of a bonus, but you

508
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: try to get exposure so down the line you can

509
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: make like actual money and not like twenty.

510
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: Bucks or whatever.

511
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: Like like next like two weeks from now, I'm driving

512
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: down to North Carolina. It's like eight or seven hour drive,

513
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: you know, and I'll probably make like thirty or forty bucks.

514
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 4: But it's a really good opportunity just to like get

515
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: my name out there.

516
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: And shit, you know, can I give you some advice?

517
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I want to advise you.

518
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

519
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: So, And this is the thing that I'm like super

520
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: big on is like the way because this is kind

521
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: of how I how I it works a little bit

522
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: in in comedy or a least how I felt that

523
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: did is like the way to get your name out

524
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: there as you're talking about, is to put on your

525
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: own shows, right, because you could be you know, sitting

526
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: around waiting for somebody to give you an opportunity or

527
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: to book you on their you know, wrestling gig that

528
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: you have to drive you know, five hours down to do. Right,

529
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: But what would put you in a greater advantage and

530
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: also you know, establish you in the community and at

531
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: the end of the day most importantly be fucking fun,

532
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: is if you put on your own shows instead of

533
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: waiting around for other people to to book you.

534
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you're definitely right like that. That was like,

535
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: that sounds awesome and I'd love to do that. I

536
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: think the only thing they'll be stopping me is just like.

537
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: I guess, like.

538
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: Financially, it's like when you like just like just to

539
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: get a ring, like God forbid, Like if you like,

540
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 4: I think the like, if you're getting like a really

541
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: really like s tier, fucking it's probably gonna be like

542
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars.

543
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Well what about a shitty ring?

544
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: Probably a few thousand I imagine.

545
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: About like building one on AM what about like I

546
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know anything about what the startup costs.

547
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: Are of professional wrestling, but you know you could Di Wyatt.

548
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I'm literally like a moron, Like I

549
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: don't even understand the logistics of even putting on a show,

550
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I would love to learn.

551
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: But I think also another way of getting exposed, Like

552
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: you said, it's just like through social media, you know,

553
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: like I'm trying to, like I post like cool little

554
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: things on Instagram and shit, you know, and just like

555
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: I think through the community, it's how people can see

556
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: that and be like, oh, this guy is doing cool stuff.

557
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: You know, Like I do a lot of like aerial

558
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: moves like backflips and things like that, and I think

559
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: when you get those things on video, people seeing like,

560
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: oh that was really cool. I want to see that

561
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: guy actually wrestled, you know. And it's like, but just

562
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: getting yourself out there. That's why I think I'm not

563
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: a big social media guy in terms of like liking it,

564
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: but it's very good in terms of just like getting

565
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: your name out there with whatever it is you do.

566
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, well, do you can you tell us like

567
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: before we go, can you give us a line from

568
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: your wrestling uh persona like something you maybe said in

569
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: the ring or like how you introduce yourself or something

570
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: like that.

571
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: Oh god, that's the thing, because like I got the

572
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: wrestling down and done, I'm like, I'm I'm so bad

573
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: at like talking and like like that kind of ship

574
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: a line. What's a line of I've said? Oh, man,

575
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: I haven't cut a lot of promos yet. Yeah, it's

576
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: hard to do that without fucking doxing myself to say,

577
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: I say my name a lot.

578
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah, go ahead, what's what's your do

579
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: you dear thing?

580
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: Not my first name? I was talking about my wrestling

581
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: name because my my my wrestling name is like my shoot,

582
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: like I have real like last name.

583
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, aren't you but I don't. Aren't you making

584
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: videos to try to put yourself out there?

585
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess, I guess. I was talking in terms

586
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: of like like your audience, you know what I mean?

587
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, whatever, whatever you want to do?

588
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: Man, actually fuck it, it doesn't matter, it doesn't I don't care.

589
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: So my wrestling name is Rulo. And then one of

590
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: my friends was like, yo, you should say uh, don't

591
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: rule out Rulo, And I was like, man, that's corny

592
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: and dumb. I'm never gonna say that that's corny and dumb.

593
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: But then I start then I started thinking insane, and

594
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, man, if I'm gonna

595
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: be the underdog character and I'm just gonna start saying that,

596
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: it makes sense. And it's like a lot of wrestling

597
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: catchphrases are corny and silly, but like, fuck it, I'm

598
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: just gonna say it, and I say it now. And

599
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes people will hear and I say like, hey, yeah,

600
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: I want that guy to win now, and you know whatever.

601
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, I guess that's that's the one.

602
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Don't rule out rula, rock and ruler rock roll Rula.

603
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Don't rule out rock and roll rula. I like that.

604
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: It's it's rulo la oh.

605
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, terrible, It's cool? Uh Rulo? Is there anything

606
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the

607
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: computer before we go?

608
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: I guess I'll ask you one quick question I meant

609
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: to ask it.

610
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: I think I find.

611
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 4: I spoke to you about, like I mentioned, how like,

612
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: you know, substance abuse in my family everything. It's kind

613
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: of led me ever since I was like, you know,

614
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: I've pretty much just been straight edge ever since then.

615
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: I have to vote in my kind of a big

616
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: part of my life to being like all right, like

617
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of family members like go down

618
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: paths and like it's I have ADHD, so I know,

619
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: I'm also like very I get addicted to things very easily.

620
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: So I pretty much decided to cut out like alcohol

621
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: and anything like that. Yeah, how would you recommend as

622
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: a young, very young man, you're very young person, just

623
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: being like social big know, to be sociable and like

624
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: make new friends. And that's with like that restriction that

625
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: I have.

626
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's a really interesting question. I vibe with

627
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: it because I'm trying to to like drink and smoke less.

628
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: I've never been a crazy drinker, but definitely a big smoker.

629
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I dude, my truly my answer to that

630
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: is like I'm well, it's a few things. It's like, well,

631
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: you don't need to drink to make friends. Like all

632
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: of the good friends that I have and and good

633
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: life experiences that I that I have that I can

634
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: think of in my life, we're not alcohol related, like

635
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 1: alcohol like I think that that's uh, that's that's that's

636
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: an a not a true postulate. I don't know who

637
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: came up with that postulate. That alcohol equals friendship. That's

638
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: not true in the slightest you my, I mean, my

639
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: recommendation for you as a young person trying to make

640
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: friends is to put on these fucking wrestling shows, you know.

641
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where you're gonna make all your friends

642
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: is doing doing uh uh, Because this is this is

643
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: a thing that you this thing you want to do,

644
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: there's a scene for it, there's a community for it.

645
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: And so if you contribute to that scene in that

646
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: community and you show up every day, you're gonna fucking

647
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: make a shit ton of friends. And you didn't have

648
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: to take a sip of alcohol doing it. So, you know,

649
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: the the key to making friends is to find or

650
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: create a community somewhere I can contribute to it, not

651
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: to fucking slam a fucking fifth a jack.

652
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I appreciate that. Last thing I'll stay is I'll say, uh,

653
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: I'll just say fucking follow me on Instagram r U

654
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: L one. Oh so it's just Rulo. But the second

655
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Speaker 4: L is at one. Maybe you've seen me some cool

656
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: stuff on there maybe. And last thing out of the

657
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: I noticed you use like two like background songs for

658
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: your podcast for your streams, and the one with the

659
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: little piano where it's like do do do do? Do

660
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 4: that one's way back or nie, she used that one

661
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: more often. It's more calming and comforting I think I have.

662
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm I feel so dumb because I have no idea

663
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But I'll do that.

664
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Speaker 4: Okay, just listen back to your one of your things

665
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: and you'll hear the exact little note.

666
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: I said, take it easy, Rula, rulo, rula? Did I

667
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: did I fuck it up?

668
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: No?

669
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: You didn't fuck it up. You got it, dude, you

670
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: got it.

671
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Take care he too. Yeah, I'm on. I've been talking.

672
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: I've been talking lots of shit about this. I'll keep

673
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: talking lots of shit about this. I'm on my uh,

674
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: trying to be on a little fitness journey. I'm trying

675
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: to go to the gym, eat healthier. I'm counting my

676
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: calories and my notes app all that shit. We'll see

677
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: how long it lasts. We'll see how long it lasts.

678
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: But part of that has been avoiding weed and alcohol.

679
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: Alcohol of course, because it's like eight fucking like drink.

680
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: If you drink, you need to drink like three beers

681
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: to get drunk, right, something like that, And every beer

682
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: has like three hundred calories. It's like a thousand calories

683
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: just from drinking. It's insane. So I'm cutting that out.

684
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: I never was never really a big drinker to begin with.

685
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: The thing for me is is the weed, you know,

686
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: because uh, it just makes you get high and it

687
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: just makes me hungry. But yeah, like I said to

688
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna keep sucking it up. I'm

689
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna call him R. Like I said to R, uh

690
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: is is? I don't. I can't think of a there's

691
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: I've had some fun nights in my life getting getting drunk,

692
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: but uh, it's not the Uh how do I say, like, uh,

693
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: the the crux of making friends, you know, the crux

694
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: of making friends. I'll just repeat what I said to him,

695
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: is is uh fostering some kind of community, which is

696
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: what he can do with his wrestling thing. And I

697
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: hope he hope he does it. But you know, I

698
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to push back on this because he

699
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: was talking about how he needs ten thousand dollars. It's like, bro,

700
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: isn't isn't they're all this backyard wrestling shit. Isn't that

701
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: like a whole thing? Isn't that what ICP. Isn't that

702
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: what the in saying clown posse he did? It's just

703
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: backyard wrestling ship. Why don't you just do shit in

704
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: your bed? When do you get a bunch of guys

705
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: together beat the shit out of each other in their backyard?

706
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, isn't that how it's all started? I

707
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: don't I I don't know. I didn't look into it,

708
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think you need ten thousand dollars. Thanks

709
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: for calling our Oh and don't get Yeah, have everyone

710
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: sign a waiver? Have everyone sign a waiver?

711
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: R awesome? Ya?

712
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, Hey, what's up?

713
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: How you doing doing?

714
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Okay? What's your name? My name is Cam, Cam. What's up?

715
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Man?

716
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: Would you want to talk about today?

717
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: Nothing?

718
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Man?

719
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: I just recently, I've been watching you for about a

720
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: year now, and I watched like a documentary that they

721
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: like did on you recently and just want to say

722
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: that super cool work that you do, really inspirational, Like

723
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: just the fact that you allow people to kind of

724
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: have like more of like a thought on their own

725
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: and just kind of let them speak freely and stuff.

726
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: It just really kind of showed a different perspective on

727
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: interviewing process or kind of like podcasting and whatnot. So

728
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: just really cool, won't let you do and everything.

729
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, I appreciate you saying all those kind words. Yeah,

730
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: that documentary I had, I had a lot of mixed

731
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: feelings about it because it, uh, it showed off how

732
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty much about me being miserable,

733
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: I think, which by the way, I mean, look at

734
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: the end of the day, great angle, right, it's the

735
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: it's it's the Polyachi the clown angle.

736
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: I completely agree.

737
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I guess I guess that's me. I'm

738
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: a sad clown.

739
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: No, I don't understand that.

740
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: Man.

741
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: It's just like your person out the Moon honestly, for

742
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: the whole like Gecko and the whole show that you

743
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: have going on. So I just I feel like it

744
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: really like brings a lot of value, and I think

745
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: you do a really a lot of good work for

746
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: people and just making people kind of think differently and

747
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: have just like a way to get something off their

748
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: chest and reach out to someone that they don't really

749
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: know and stuff. So it's just really cool and just

750
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just a really good idea. Props

751
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: to you.

752
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: Thanks brother, Thank you brother. I really appreciate you saying

753
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: that that's nice. You're You're right, I shouldn't be. I

754
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't be so uh such a fucking asshole to myself.

755
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: Well anyway, kem listen, I appreciate you saying all that.

756
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: I was, buddy, what's up with you? Would would you

757
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: want to? Is anything particular that you wanted to talk

758
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: about about yourself? Your life?

759
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

760
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I recently have just broken up with my

761
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: girlfriend and just kind of going through kind of like

762
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: a rough phase for like the last few months and stuff.

763
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: And I don't know, it's just kind of like being alone.

764
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: We were together for about like four years or so,

765
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: and kind of just being alone with yourself now and

766
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: kind of reflecting on like what had transpired and what

767
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: you can do better moving forward on like for like

768
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: future relationships and stuff like that. But I don't know,

769
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: do you have any like good like advice on like

770
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 3: how to kind of get through it a little bit better.

771
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: I've been trying to go out, like hang out with

772
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: my friends and be more social and kind of get

773
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: out and stuff, travel and kind of just do that

774
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: whole thing, but just kind of mentally, I just kind

775
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: of feel really down. I kind of feel like there's

776
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: just an empty space kind of missing in my life.

777
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know if you have insight on that.

778
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: How long were you guys to go for? Did you

779
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: say that?

780
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: Or about four Yeah? About four years?

781
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, I'm insane. About four years? And how old

782
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: are you?

783
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: I just turned thirty?

784
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow, okay, So how'd you guys first meet?

785
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: We used to work at the same company and uh

786
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: in a biotech company. She was a scientist and I

787
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: was an engineer, and we just kind of hit it

788
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: off and then we she ended up leaving from the company,

789
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: and we just kept on, kept in contact and whatnot,

790
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: and then I decided to apply to the same company

791
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: that she was at, and then kind of we just

792
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: kind of followed each other till there and started dating

793
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 3: each other.

794
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: I could have sworn you worked at a surfboard rental place.

795
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: I get that all the time. I get that all

796
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: the time.

797
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: So what what? What things have you been doing on

798
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: this on this on this on this new new single

799
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: life journey of yours?

800
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: So I have two French bulldogs. They've been keeping me

801
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: pretty happy and whatnot, and that's pretty good. I've been

802
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: going out and seeing my my family more often, which

803
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: I haven't been doing in the last few years and stuff.

804
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: So that's been really good, going out and seeing my friends, traveling.

805
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: I just got back from Thailand a few weeks ago

806
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: with a couple of buddies of mine, so that was

807
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: a pretty good trip. But yeah, just trying to stay

808
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: busy and everything. But just yeah, just sometimes I just

809
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: get really down and my thoughts and think, like, O

810
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: was just kind of just is this just it? Mmm? Mmm?

811
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: Is this just it?

812
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Kind of like that feeling of like being like

813
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 3: a gear and the cog and kind of just working,

814
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: waking up kind of doing that same thing and never

815
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: really kind of finding happiness. I guess that kind of

816
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 3: makes sense.

817
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: What is it that gives you happiness? And in general

818
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: or have you never? Have you not yet found happiness?

819
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: I think I've been happy a couple of times in

820
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: my life. I feel like just being being a good

821
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: person to other people and just having kind of re

822
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: on that. And I'm really a firm believer on once

823
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 3: you kind of like leave this earth and you're gone, that, uh,

824
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: the only thing you can really leave behind is remembrance,

825
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: and so being remembered as a good and kind person.

826
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: That's kind of like really really kind of set with me.

827
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: And I don't know. I just I kind of try

828
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: to try to do my best and just being the

829
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: best I can every single day without kind of looking

830
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: for anything in return. But I don't know, I kind

831
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: of feel that doing more of that. I'm not looking

832
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: anything from it, but I feel that I'm getting taken

833
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: advantage of. And I'm starting to recognize that now by

834
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: over offering myself, and that kind of makes sense.

835
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Hmmm, how do you feel that you're getting taken advantage

836
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: of or that you're over offering yourself.

837
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

838
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a type of person that would

839
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: just go to the end of the world for someone

840
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: as like a friend or anybody in my life. And

841
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 3: when I'm kind of like in a rut or kind

842
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: of down, I feel that that's kind of I'm kind

843
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: of put in second place or kind of last place.

844
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: And I know that's kind of like a bad mindset

845
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: to put yourself in, kind of like expecting people to

846
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: kind of be there for you, and I shouldn't put

847
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: myself on that mindset, but I kind of kind of

848
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 3: kind of get lost in time to go back into

849
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: that mindset of just being like, wow, like why am

850
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: I doing all of this or someone that doesn't even

851
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 3: think or even really care about what I'm really going through.

852
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: Kind of sounds selfish of me really saying it right now.

853
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: No, that's a that's a that's a classic conundrum for

854
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: anyone who, uh I guess identifies as a as a giver.

855
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: It's like, we'll, we'll, we'll, well, the universe throw this

856
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: back out at me, right, and then you're saying it's selfish,

857
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: because uh, good done with the intent of receiving back

858
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: is selfish.

859
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to feel like I'm like, oh I,

860
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking for something back, but just I don't know,

861
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: I feel like being recognized or feeling that like you're

862
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: appreciated really like means.

863
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: A lot for what kind of good walk tell me

864
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: about the kind of good that you that you that

865
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: you give into the universe.

866
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 3: So I'm really good into uh like dog charities and stuff.

867
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: So I've been really volunteering and like dog shelters and

868
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: like animal shelters because just having two dogs on my

869
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: own and what's going on with just dogs and animals

870
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: in general and stuff. I kind of really put a

871
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: lot of time into that, spending time with like my

872
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 3: mother who had a kidney transplant about three years ago,

873
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: and she's kind of on kind of like on a

874
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: on a time time frame now since of that surgery

875
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: and whatnot, So it just kind of spending as much

876
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: time as I can with her and and everything and whatnot.

877
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know, just doing right by like my friends,

878
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: doing right by like my my my, my fellow employees

879
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: that I work for for my company, and just kind

880
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: of just being the best person I can every day.

881
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, mhmm. Do you ever get anything back from that?

882
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like there's there's something that you

883
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: receive for yourself from doing all those things?

884
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

885
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, yeah, I get it back plenty times, fulfold.

886
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: But sometimes just the people that really mean a lot

887
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: in my life that I'm really looking forward to, that

888
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: I I kind of feel that it's certainly sometimes certainly missing,

889
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: and that's kind of where I kind of just go.

890
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: And I have a lot of really close friends that

891
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: are really successful in life with just where they are

892
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: financially or in their relationships with stuff, and I kind

893
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: of always just felt like I was kind of like

894
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: the black sheep in my group. I can never really

895
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: get myself to where they need to be. And I'm

896
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: I know, it's kind of bad setting expectations of like

897
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: yourself to meet like where other people are. But I

898
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: don't know. I just I feel that I'm like far behind,

899
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: but everybody tells me I'm not, but I just in

900
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: my mind, I feel that I'm behind.

901
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: M which aspects? What is a course of career and relationships?

902
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: Would you say the aspects that you feel behind in?

903
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: I want to say, like most like maybe a little

904
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 3: bit on the career side, I want to be more

905
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 3: further in my career where that I'm at right now,

906
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: But that's just kind of working your way up the

907
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: ladder and taking taking a day by day aspect on it.

908
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, relationships, I just I don't know, I just

909
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 3: the whole game of being in a relationship, the time

910
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: and that you put in and then if it doesn't

911
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: work out, you kind of just walk away and kind

912
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: of have to just restart again. And I don't know,

913
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: it's just really really kind of sucks and just hurts

914
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: after a long run. And I don't know, it's just

915
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to get back into

916
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: that role again. And I don't know, if you know,

917
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: with now, with dating and stuff and all the apps

918
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: and everything, it's just not the same how it used

919
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: to be. I'm really about going to meeting someone in

920
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: person rather than talking to someone on an app and stuff.

921
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: So I just feel like it's gonna be a really

922
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: hard challenge kind of getting back into that relationship role.

923
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, hmmmmmmm, you know, man, I uh, I mean, fuck,

924
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: fuck fuck dude. It's uh, well, you brought up this

925
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: fucking documentary in the very beginning of all of this,

926
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: and as you're talking to me, I really am thinking

927
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: about everything and really am like, uh, I mean, dude,

928
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to solve any

929
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: of these fucking issues.

930
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: I know, I probably wake up every day I'm like, Okay,

931
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to stigure out one of these issues

932
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: and try to like work. I just kind of set

933
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: it up as a list and go check one off

934
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: each time. But it's just like I hit a wall

935
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, how do I get through here

936
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 3: onto the next step? And I don't know, And it's

937
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 3: just it's just I guess that's just life, and I

938
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: should just kinda be happy and kind of just take

939
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: it as it is and just be happy for what

940
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 3: I have. Honestly, I don't really know why I have

941
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: too much to complain about.

942
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Honestly, Yeah, yeah, I feel the exact same way. I

943
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: feel the exact same way. I think that that's no. Really,

944
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: I would think that that's that's the thing is like

945
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sitting here every single day, you know, upset

946
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: over what I don't have instead of being grateful for

947
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: everything that I do have. And I think it's it's

948
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: just my mindset. That's that's kind of poisoned me in

949
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: a sense. And maybe that's the same thing that's happening

950
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: to you.

951
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: I really think so too. I just kind of need

952
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: to get out of this bad mindset and have a

953
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: different change. From my perspective.

954
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: You could also, uh it also cut your arm off.

955
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: I thought about a couple of times, starting with.

956
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how that would help,

957
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: but you could do it.

958
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: Well. I'm an engineer, so that might sat on my duties.

959
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: I feel. Is there anything else, like the like aspect

960
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: of any of this that that I can help you

961
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: with or anything else? That you. Yeah, anyway, with anything

962
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: else do you want out of this phone call that

963
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: I can I can kind of be of help to no.

964
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 3: I just kind of honestly, honestly right now, just so

965
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: a lot better, just kind of getting it off my chest.

966
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh, good, good, good, just yeah.

967
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: I just uh, like I said before, I just really

968
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: appreciate all that you do. And I love the whole

969
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: aspect of your channel and just everything that you do, man.

970
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: And just props to you, and thanks for hearing me

971
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 3: out and hearing what I have to say and everything.

972
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: And even though you don't have any answers to really

973
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 3: get back and it's all good. I just really like

974
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: the fact that you just heard me out. Man, Thank

975
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 3: you very much.

976
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: Good good. Uh, let me know if you figure it out.

977
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Let me know. If you get a new beautiful girlfriend

978
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: and you make a car that sells stuff, you know,

979
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: I think you can do it.

980
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: So a vaccine or maybe some light innovation in the

981
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: lab space, that.

982
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: Would be cool. That'd be cool if you if you

983
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: made the if you made a vaccine, Hey, I'll say

984
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: this and I'll end to say this. What's your name

985
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: one more time?

986
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

987
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: Cam? Oh yes, Cam, Cam, here's what I'll say. You

988
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: seem like a nice guy, So if you develop any

989
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: kind of vaccine, I will take it with absolutely no

990
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: questions asked, just off of your your charming personality alone.

991
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: I will put anything you tell me in my body.

992
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: Oh man, just just make sure we go to the

993
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: FDA process first.

994
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: Before I know, fuck the FDA. I'm on the c

995
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: A M.

996
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. Well, you'll be first

997
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: in line. I'll make sure I get a band aid

998
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: for you.

999
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Take care cam, Thank you brother.

1000
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: I have a wonderful day. I appreciate you.

1001
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Goes on the line taking your song calls every night.

1002
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: The Repacon goes to his hide. You're just teaching you

1003
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: about in the line, but he's not really an expert.