1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Ja Keeps and 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Stacy or special Wednesday edition with Thanksgiving tomorrow. Hope everyone's 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: excited now. I know we need to start with the game. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: But Dave, I actually have to call you out. I'm 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: glad you're here, Glad we're doing this now. Friends. Well, Dave, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: it's what you didn't do, and that was have a 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: good opinion about Thanksgiving food because Jake said that the 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: best Thanksgiving dish was gravy. Jake, gravy is not a dish. No, Dave, 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: this is the problem, you guys. The answer, for instance, 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: could be stuffing. Maybe you like, uh stuffing casserole turkey 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: I would accept as an answer even though it's incredibly dry. 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: Your answer is gravy. Would you just eat turkey just 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: by itself without any gravy on it? Would you ever 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: be that insane? Would you have a potatoes by itself? Yes? No, 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean sure, but I'm just saying, like, you can't 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: eat gravy by itself? Debatable? Alright, alright, if you if you, 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: if you do so and then also have turkey chunks 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: in it, and you do it right? Oh god, you guys, Yes, 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: saying all right, well, we're gonna have Quandre diggs On 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: is the most important aspect of a Thanksgiving. By the way, 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: he agrees with your awful take, Shannon, if you're listening, 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: get corn, I go. I gotta have corn in my 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: mashed potatoes and gravy. Love that gosh. All right, all right, well, 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: let's let's uh spend not too much time looking back 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: on this game, because it wasn't a pretty one, certainly 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: not offensively. But then we've got to look ahead to 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: the game against Washington Football, that one on Monday night. 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: So we'll start with this. The Seahawks now three and seven, 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: not a place we thought this team would be, nor 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: place they thought they would be. Um, has there been 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: a reoccurring issue that you think they can fix this year? 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: I do? I think the question to me is, and 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: we've been talking about this on our show with on 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Wyman and Bob, what do you think they have enough talent? 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Like Dwayne Brown is very talented, Damian Lewis is talented. 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: And look how many teams have like at every position 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: you have like exactly what you want? Not many, not many, 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: But you know, Gerald Everett, I've entirely changed my opinion 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: on Like he's like superstar status, that dude, and he 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: reflects what should happen on this team. Like the way 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: he plays, that's how everybody should play. He's angry. You 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: should be angry. You're three and seven. I love the 43 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: way he plays. I love the way Quandre Diggs plays. 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Who you guys, We're going to talk to you later. 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, Jamal Adams is starting to come around. I mean, 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: you just look at the talent that you have. There's enough. 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: There's enough talent. It's just that, you know, we're Last year, 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: they were saying the same thing on defenses. Hey we're 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: not playing together. You know, we need to get it together. 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: We need But it eventually came together, and I just 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting. I'm still waiting for them to you know. 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: And I know that they've had a couple of good 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: games where things have repaired a little bit, but they 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: don't have the takeaways, they don't have the sacks. You 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: know that. And the reason why they're so good turnover 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: ratio because they're you know, and the positive side is 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: because the offense is taken care of the ball. Yeah, 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: so at least the one good thing that they are 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: doing right. You look at this from an offensive perspective 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: as well, and right now they have no identity, They 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: have no thing that they truly hang their hat on 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: in regards to you know, whether it's the running game, 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: whether it's the quarterback and Russell Wilson, whether it's the 64 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: style in which they play. Are they a you know, 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: are they a tempo team? Like? What are they? And 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: that to me is being in between is the worst 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: thing that you could possibly be offensively. And with these 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: next seven games, that's what they've got to establish. They've 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: got to find something that, hey, this is what we 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: do well, this is what we think we can do. 71 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: And Shane Waldron, this is what you were brought in 72 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: here to do, and establish that over these next seven 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: games and really go for it. That to me is 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: what I'm going to be looking at. And Dave, you know, 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: one of the things that we've been talking about is 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: the aspect of You've always talked about being physical, playing violently. 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: I see it from you know, stylistically, approach wise, you know, 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: going from being passive, being tentative, trying to survive through 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: a game rather than thrive in a game, and being 80 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: the aggressor you know whether that's offense or defense. Let 81 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: me ask you guys a question. Is Alex Collins good 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: enough to win with I think so? Yeah? You think so? Yeah. 83 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: I think he's really talented. But I think that Pete 84 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: Carroll's offense is best suited to a running back like Carson. Yeah. Well, 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I obviously I'd love to have Carson. I 86 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: just I think Alex Collins has talented it off Yeah, 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I think he I think you can win with him. 88 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: And you know that they didn't really I mean Pete 89 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: talked about after the Green Bay game, I think they 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: had seventeen carries instead of eleven, so didn't really get 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: to that. You know, nice blend and member going into 92 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: that game Arizona, that's what they have going. They were 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: like four plays away from being perfectly balanced. And the Seahawks, 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, time of possession is way askew and then 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: and that has to do with the running game. But 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: so as you know, the run pass, it's you know, 97 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: it needs to get more back to even so, and 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: I do think Alex Collins is good enough to win 99 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: games and certainly to beat the Washington football team. He's 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: good enough. Let's talk about the Washington football team. They're 101 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: coming off of two wins. Seahawks going to be a 102 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: one point underdog there at FedEx Field. Washington is coming 103 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: off a win Week ten over Tampa Bay in Week 104 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 1: eleven over Carolina. This is a bit of a different 105 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: team than we saw last year. They're a bit better 106 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: on offense, not as good on defense. What are the 107 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Seahawks in store for here? Well, I personally, from what 108 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: I see is Taylor Heinik, their quarterback, is playing really well. Dave, 109 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: I describe him as a younger, more athletic version of 110 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. I just he is such a hot and 111 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: cold quarterback in this league. And when he's hot, he 112 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: can pick up first downs with his legs. He's willing to, 113 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, make some risky throws and and uh it 114 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: and is going for it and can really really be 115 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: effective in this league. But there are times where obviously 116 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: if you rattle him, you get to him, you can 117 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: do that easily and effectively. He will look like a 118 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: backup quarterback in this league. And so that to me 119 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: is one thing that really is going to be the 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: key for the defense. And then offensively, you know, Dave, 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: you talked about you know, the balance in this game. 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a unique challenge for them because the 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: one thing that Washington, the Washington football team does well 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: is their run defense. They're one of the best rush 125 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: defenses in the league this year and they're one of 126 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: the worst passing defenses in the league this year. So 127 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see how that ends up coming 128 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: together for this offense. But they are going to need 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: to try and test that rush defense for Washington. Yeah, 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: and you know, you look at the two defensive ends 131 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: Montez Sweat and Chase Young guys both out. And you know, 132 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: but remember last year going in there, they had like 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: four they had actually five first rounders on their defensive line. 134 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the gay Ryan the guy who 135 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: was not starting anyway, Rigan Kerrigan, thank you, and he 136 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: was a first rounder as well. But a couple of 137 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: injuries there. But you know, this is a typical Ron 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Rivera team. They're good at the line of scrimmage, right, 139 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Their rush defense is, as you mentioned, number six, and 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: then their their run game is is pretty decent. It's 141 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: it's number ten. So yeah, I think it's going to 142 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: be one of those punch you in the mouth type 143 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: of games. And that's where we talk about being physical. 144 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, where do you and you said hang your 145 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: hat offensively? Where what about defensively? You know, I've been 146 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: saying this for two weeks. It's is it sacks? No? 147 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Is it takeaways? No? And so what what's it going 148 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: to be? You know it's going to be it's got 149 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: to be Look, hit people, hit people. Start there and 150 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: then you know, and be more physical and then you know, 151 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: that's where you win at the line of scrimmage, because 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: that's what it's going to be like in this game. 153 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: Is there a way you can incorporate that into a 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: passing attack? Because Washington has ranked twenty eighth against the pass, 155 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: and I guess you just hope that Seattle doesn't take 156 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: the same approach it did against the number one Saints 157 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: running defense, where it just felt like they were running 158 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: into a wall. All of a sudden, they're targeting DK 159 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Metcalf late in the game, and you realize that's good. 160 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, how do they mix it up a little 161 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: bit more than they did in that loss, because you're 162 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: once again facing a good run defense. It's not that 163 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: you can't run the ball, but how do they mix 164 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: it up just a bit more. I know this flies 165 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: in the face of normal, conventional football, but I'm just 166 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: tired of the idea at this point in the season, 167 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this group becoming a well efficient, 168 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, turned around third down offense. I don't think 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: they're going to be that. Could they be? It would 170 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: that be great to see in the final seven games? Yeah? 171 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: It would. And so to avoid that situation with the Saints, 172 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: what I would say is is that what do you 173 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: do well offensively? What does your quarterback do well offensively? 174 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: This year? Statistically, he does really well in play action 175 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: pass and he is the best quarterback in terms of 176 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: in terms of yard per attempt on first down. He 177 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: is also first in generating first downs on first down. 178 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: So what does that mean? I believe that what they 179 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: need to do on first and second down is they 180 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: need to be a little bit more aggressive in terms 181 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: of passing the football and then incorporating the run game. 182 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: So does it And when I say that is the 183 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: best way, the best recipe is to avoid third downs 184 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: much as possible for this offense. And you have to 185 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: while doing that, keep the running game connected. And I 186 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: agree Dave that the amount of carries that Alex Collins 187 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: gets is going to be very important. But you can't 188 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: have the approach that you did against the Saints where 189 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna line up in heavy personnel and you're gonna 190 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: play a smash mouth football Offensively. You've got to you've 191 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: got to be creative in your run game. You've got 192 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: to you've got to use the passing game to set 193 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: up the run game in this circumstance, which flies in 194 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: the face of conventional football. But I think that, that, unfortunately, 195 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: is where they're at offensively to really try and get 196 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: something sparked and get something going. All Right, we're gonna 197 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: have Robert Turbin joining us for a preview of this game. 198 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Steve Rabel, voice of the Seahawks. We're gonna have an 199 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: opponent preview, Pete Carroll. You'll hear from him at the podium. 200 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: Very excited, also to talk to Quandre Diggs. He'll join 201 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: us later this hour, coming up at twelve forty five. 202 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: So let's not wait anymore. We'll get to Pete Carroll's 203 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: press conference to take you there live next. So if 204 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: you're looking at what Washington's offense brings, you got a 205 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: different quarterback this year, at least for your regular starter. 206 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: You saw Heineke last year with them, But you've got 207 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: a great wide receiver. They're they're hot on a two 208 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: game win streak. You've got I don't know if j. D. 209 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: McKissick is healthy, but he's been solid for them. I mean, 210 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: what are we looking at here with this group? Yeah, 211 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: he's got he's played in ten games. I missed that guy. 212 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: He's great, he really is. And he's got one hundred 213 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: and eighty two yards rushing, but he also catches the ball. Um, 214 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: he's their second leading receiver. He's got three hundred and 215 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: seventy one yards. So yeah, and and heinik here interested 216 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: to here from you, Jake that you know he looks 217 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: like I mean, he's what sixty six percent completion and 218 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns, nine interceptions, been sacked twenty two times. But 219 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's he's gotten it done. Um, it's 220 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: been it's been fun watching that kid. He's got a 221 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: lot of moxie and you see him getting fired up 222 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: on the and he's a he's a leader on this team, 223 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: he really is. And he's somebody that has made the 224 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: most of his opportunity and and when you look at 225 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: him play, I mean, like I said before, I really 226 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: believe that he is a younger, more athletic version of 227 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. And I say that in a compliment, not 228 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: a negative. And so you see during the year where 229 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: he's really struggled. He's made some really bad turnovers throughout 230 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: the year, but the last couple of games he has 231 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: been absolutely on fire. He's been throwing in rhythm, he's 232 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: been trusting his eyes, understanding his outlets, understanding where he 233 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: needs to go with the football, um and getting the 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: ball to his playmakers. And one of the other things 235 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: that's very underrated about Heineke is his legs. He is 236 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: a mobile guy. He is somebody that with everything covered 237 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: that he can take off and make you pay and 238 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: and really um convert with first down. So I think 239 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: that when you have somebody like that that is playing confidently, 240 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: that is feeling like they're in rhythm, they they their 241 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: play heightens even more and they're willing to, uh, you know, 242 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: throw into tighter coverages and really force the issue, and 243 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: that gives you opportunities as a Seahawk defense to maybe 244 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: come up with some turnovers. But if he's on rhythm 245 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: and he's feeling it. He's gonna be a problem. He's 246 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem for the Seahawks defense because there's 247 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: enough playmakers on this Washington football offense that he has 248 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: to distribute the football too, from receivers, tight ends, running backs. 249 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: So this can quickly become a unique challenge in Dave. 250 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: One of the other things you talk about physicality. Washington 251 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: football team's got a really good offensive line. Yeah, at 252 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: the at the line of scrimmageon that's really the way 253 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: um Ron Rivera has has built this team. And that's 254 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: the way he builds teams. It's kind of interesting. Um, 255 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, he's the sort of the become the face 256 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: of that franchise, and that's a This is a troubled franchise, 257 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, with the owner and all of the things 258 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: that have gone on there. And I gotta say they 259 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: brought in the right guy. I mean, Ron Rivera. I 260 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know this. I played against 261 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: him in college. He was a Cal linebacker and UM 262 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: and actually during the Big Game one time tell this 263 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: story probably every year every time I talk about Ron Rivera. 264 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: But there was a fight on the sidelines and I 265 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: went running over there like I was gonna be a 266 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: tough guy. I was like a sophomore at Stanford and 267 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm come come running over there, and he turns and 268 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: looks at me and goes go back to your sidelines. 269 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, sir, turning, I tailed it back. 270 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: But he just has that kind of command. And I 271 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: really looked up to him because like at that time, 272 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: it was Jack del Rio was in the USC, right, 273 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Dwayne Bickett, and then you know there was Ron Rivera 274 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: at Cal and so yeah, I always looked up to him. 275 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: And I know he was a big part of that 276 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: Chicago team. I mean he didn't play a ton, he 277 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: was a linebacker there, but you know, just he has 278 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: that kind of command. And then you know he beats 279 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: cancer and you see that whole thing, and you know 280 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: he really has He's become like that's the guy you 281 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: want when you think of the Washington football team. You 282 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: don't want to think about Dan Snyder. You want to 283 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: think Ron Rivera is our guy, all right, and joining 284 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: us right now is Quandre Digs safety for the Seattle Seahawks. Obviously, 285 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: I Quandre, how are you? I'm good, I'm good. How 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: you guys doing We're fantastic. I'm actually really excited for 287 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: this interview because we heard from your teammate that you're 288 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: a talker, and not just a talker, but like a NonStop, 289 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: never ending trash talker. Can you confirm, I wouldn't confirm now. 290 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: It depends. It depends on the day. I don't know, Quandre. 291 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what this is what Ryan Neil 292 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: had to say on with Us. Does he talk as 293 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: much trash in person as he does on Twitter? Because 294 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: he's don't stop, you don't stop. It's twenty post seven. 295 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if Quandre were to get put in the caskie, 296 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: you'll probably hear mumbling from the fast that's false, that's false. 297 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: I talked trash to him, but only that's only him, 298 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: old me him, Okay, Quandre, I like to think that 299 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: you talk trash to the people that deserve it, right, 300 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: no question, if you you know, if you was, if 301 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: you if you're chilling like myself, and then I don't 302 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: have to say nothing to you. But you know, you 303 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: get to talking a little too much. I had to 304 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: talk trash to you, well, Quandre, I thought I was 305 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: chilling on my drive back one day one Friday, and 306 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: it's tweeting at me. He's saying that, you know, posting 307 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: videos of me throwing interceptions to him. I'm like, what 308 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: did I do? I thought we were cool? Hey man, hey, 309 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, just a little love out there. You know, 310 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: it popped up on my time hot. I just had 311 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: to make it be known, you know, hey, Quandre, you know, 312 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, getting to you know, the football side of things. Man. 313 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: I know that this has been you know, up and 314 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: down ride and everything else. But you know, where are 315 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: you guys at. What are the conversations you guys having 316 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: as you're looking at the final seven games and what 317 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: you guys are really wanting to accomplish. I mean, right now, 318 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: it's just take it one week at a time, you 319 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You can't you can't put your 320 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: head down, you know, and and talk about it because 321 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: the team we play this week they don't really care. 322 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: So for us, you know, it's just one week at 323 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: a time, one step at a time, one day at 324 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: a time, and just let whatever plays out plays out. 325 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I think we have an upbeat M 326 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: upbeat H vibe going to us and we know that 327 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: we could play better than we've been playing and hopefully 328 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: we can get this thing turned around this week on 329 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Hey, Quandre, you're no stranger to making interceptions. 330 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: You've been leading this team, and you're leading the team 331 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: right now. You're closing in on matching a career high, 332 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: which is all very exciting to watch. But has there 333 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: ever been a pick that you made where you caught 334 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: it and thought, I can't believe I just made this pick. 335 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Did that happen for sure? Um? I like to consider 336 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: myself a playmaker, so you know, I don't want to 337 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: be one of those guys that that's surprise when I 338 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: catch the ball, you know what I mean. I think 339 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: every opportunity to balls in my direction, I think it's 340 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: the ball is for me. So, UM, I wouldn't say 341 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I've normally been surprised. I think probably my first interception 342 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: of my career, I would I caught it and I 343 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: just kind of turned around and looked to make sure 344 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't any flags on the play because that's happened 345 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: to me before. And I got my my interception called back. 346 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: What was your favorite pick that you've made? Oh, I 347 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: would say probably my most difficult pick. I wouldn't say 348 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: my favorite. My most difficult pick was I want to 349 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: say twenty eighteen with the Lions my first year in 350 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: four year safety against the Rams. It was like a 351 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: post ball. We were in quarters and golfed through it 352 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: to Brandon Cooks and I caught the ball by like 353 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: the back of the ball, you know, I mean one 354 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: of those difficult catches, like kind of like the one 355 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon caught against Carolina a few years ago. I 356 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: caught it like that. Yeah, yeah it was. It was 357 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: a real difficult catch, but you know, I try to 358 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: make it make it look easy. Well. I hope the 359 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: one that you had against the Rams this year where 360 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: you you caught the one from Matt Stafford and toe 361 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: tapped on the sideline, you got the two feet in. 362 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: I hope you were telling the receiver's pro feed on 363 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: that one. Oh, no question. It's crazy because Calvin Johnson 364 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: texted me out of the game it was like, that's 365 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I used to always make a 366 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: joke with Calvin and be like, these hands are second 367 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: to none and that includes you, and you used to 368 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: always laugh at me, and you know, I mean, it's 369 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 1: cool when you know Hall of Famer, one of your 370 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: former teammates texts you out of the game and you know, 371 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of congratulate you on the pick. Yeah, that's awesome, man. 372 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, Quandre, this is something you talked about in 373 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: the off season, and you know, I'm gonna hype you 374 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: up here a little bit, so you don't need to 375 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: necessarily respond to this. But in my opinion, you have 376 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: been the best defensive player on this team in terms of, 377 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, being on your p's and ques uh, you know, 378 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: the leadership, everything that you've brought into the Seattle Seahawks 379 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: this year. And you talked about in the offseason how 380 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: you know you didn't get a lot of the credit 381 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: you deserve and rankings and different things. And one of 382 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: the things I loved hearing you say was, look, the 383 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: film doesn't lie. I watched the film. I know what 384 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: I do. I know what I put on tape, everybody 385 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: else sees it. You know what kind of pride does 386 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: that have for you when you are putting a good 387 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: product on tape. I mean, it's it's my name, you 388 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, That's what I played for. And 389 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I played for, my play 390 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: for my teammates, I play for you know, God, of 391 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: course I play for my family, but I play for 392 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: my name, you know what I mean. I can't go 393 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: out there and hold the last name Digs and know 394 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: that means something to my family. And you know, put 395 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: poor tape on film and you know, you have a 396 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: bad game here and there, and then you just bounce 397 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: back and you know, you make sure it doesn't happen again. 398 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: So for me, you know, I mean, it's really important 399 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: to go out there each and every week, put that 400 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: on tape and let guys know that. You know what 401 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just not a one dimensional safety. You know, 402 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: I can do everything, and that's running an alley, you know, 403 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: that's creating turnovers, you know what I mean. That's bringing 404 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: intensity and leading my team and lining guys up and 405 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: doing certain things like that. You know, I want to 406 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: be a guy that's looked up on as my teammates 407 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm what I'm gonna doing, what I'm gonna 408 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: be each and every week. Hey, Quandre, you mentioned Calvin 409 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: Johnson texting you after one of those picks, And speaking 410 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: of Calvin Johnson, I remember this story coming out that 411 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: was making the rounds where DK Metcalf gets a little frustrated, 412 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: a little, a little bothered by a coach telling him, Hey, 413 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: maybe you can be as good as him one day. 414 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: But do you think he gets as mad if a 415 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: coach tells DK, hey maybe you can have hands as 416 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: good as Quandre one day, Because that, to me, that's 417 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: quite flatter. Oh man, I think somebody should tell him 418 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: that he should. I guarantee you he wouldn't like that. Man. 419 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: That's the last thing we need defeat the Quandre all right, 420 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you so much for joining us. Man, 421 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: have a wonderful Thanksgiving and good luck on Monday. Man, 422 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: it's been fun watching you this season, no doubt. Thank 423 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: you guys for having me. Y'all have a happy Thanksgiving. 424 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: Off you too, Quandre? All right, we still got Pete 425 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: Carroll coming up later in the show. He's a blast. 426 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: I would love for someone to be like, you know, 427 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: Quander or you know DK. What you're doing is fine, 428 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: But have you ever thought about watching Quandre's tape? Just 429 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: just watch the toe taps, you know what I mean, 430 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: the catches. It's unbelievable. The chemistry between Quandre and quarterback, 431 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. All right, don't go anywhere more of the 432 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: Huddle coming your way. Next. This is the Huddle with 433 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. Pete Carroll speaking 434 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: with reporters. Will take you there live now. On this 435 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: holiday week, we'd like to send our wishes out for 436 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: everybody to have a great Thanksgiving and a chance to 437 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: get together with your family and the loved ones. And 438 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: I hope everybody can stay safe and and take care 439 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: of each other and all of that. We'll have a 440 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: chance to get our guys opportunity tomorrow to celebrate Thanksgiving, 441 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: which I'm grateful for that we're playing Monday night. It 442 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: works out well. But we want to send out, you know, 443 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: a really good thought about the gratitude and about I 444 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: appreciate one another. And that's that's kind of where we 445 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: started today. Um, we get a matchup with with Washington 446 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: and that we find them at a time when they 447 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: played two really good football games against good teams and 448 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: got good, solid wins, and I'm sure they're feeling really 449 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: excited about where they're going. And you know, they looked 450 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: really solid and a really well balanced team, very much 451 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: like we've seen Ron's teams over the years. You know, 452 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: where they're good on teams. They're good on defense, and 453 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: they move it on offense, and they have a real 454 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: nice a real nice system going. And so I'm up 455 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: against a good club and uh, you know, unfortunately we 456 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: catch them when they're where they're hot and they're going 457 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: and all that. We have got to do a really 458 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: nice job this week and learning. Really still feels like 459 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: a new team to us, even though we played them 460 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: a year ago. Um, it still feels like a new 461 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: team with some new faces and stuff playing for them. 462 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: So we've got to learn them and make sure we 463 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: do a nice job of adapting this week and get 464 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: our plan ready. We got a lot of work to do, 465 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: and we have our hopes or our high to really 466 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: play good football and get a good game under on 467 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: this Monday night coming up and looking forward, always looking 468 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: forward to those you know, those fun opportunities go across 469 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: the country. It's been pretty good us in the past. 470 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna trying to make it good again. Balance that 471 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Washington the show and they're coming off for to best game. 472 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: What else is it about tom bel that their offense 473 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: is time Well, Taylor Heineke's playing good, you know, he's 474 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: playing good football for him he's been real resourceful. Um, 475 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: he's a good he's obviously in charge of their offense 476 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: and can throw all of the stuff they're asking him 477 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: to throw. But he's uh, he's running the ball forty 478 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: something times, you know, and he's got a good, good 479 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: average there. He's not just escaping on scrambles but reading 480 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, reading option opportunities and stuff like that. He 481 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: does a good job. So he's a he's truly a 482 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: double threat for us in that regard. And uh, you know, 483 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: Antonio's a really good running back. Terry's a terrific receiver. 484 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, they've uh, you know, every everywhere you look, 485 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: they've got players that can do good stuff. And they're 486 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: they're a little banged up to you know, on the 487 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, with a couple really highlighted 488 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: players out, but they've played really well and adapted well already. 489 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: So um, you know, they just they got their raft 490 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: together and they look like a good football team. Like 491 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: I said, Terry, he leaves the league and contested catches. 492 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: How old you see him? And I guess what makes 493 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: that such a skill set of his. He's really fast, 494 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: so he's always got the kind of he's got the 495 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: edge on on the opportunities always. Uh, he's a really 496 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: good athlete, really powerful, explosive athlete, gets off the ground 497 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: really well, and he's really you can see and feel 498 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: the strength of him. You know. They doesn't get knocked 499 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: around when he's going to play the ball, and so, um, 500 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: they know how to put the ball up to him 501 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: and utilize him. He's just been. He's been legitimately you 502 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: know what people thought he would be coming out of 503 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: the draft, you know, and he's a big time player. 504 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Expect DJ readback this week. Um, he will see if 505 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: he's gonn practice today, We'll see how he does, you know, 506 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: and uh, we'll let you know. This is a day 507 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: we don't have to really commit on the injuries and stuff, 508 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: so everybody won't have many updates. But we'll see how 509 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: that goes. So when we have a PRESSU conference tomorrow 510 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: we can talk about Okay, UM, we're not commenting on 511 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: injuries right now. We don't because we don't have to. 512 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: So I don't have any updates for you. Sorry, How 513 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: would you assess Shane Walter and just I know it's 514 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: been a weird year with us all for a few 515 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: games and all that kind of stuff. But just when 516 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: you look at it's been a challenge. It's just been 517 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: a challenging year for us. You know. We haven't been 518 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: as as consistent as we wanted to be. And we 519 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of things that we can do in 520 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: our offense and a lot of stuff that we that 521 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: we really like. We have to be able to reap 522 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: the benefits of those opportunities. But you know, by completing 523 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: our drives, you know, and that goes back to the 524 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: third down stuff as well as our efficiency on first 525 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: or second now, but the easy focus for us is 526 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: to look at third down and see that you know, 527 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: if we make it two or three more game, it 528 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: gives us two or three more drives, you know, and 529 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: that that's what we need. So um, I think it's 530 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: been a real challenge for him, and that you know, 531 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: it's quarterback moving out and tailback's not being available and 532 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: all that, um as we had planned it, you know, 533 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: and so um, but I think he's doing a really 534 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: good job. I love the work in the approach and 535 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: the style and what we're trying to get done, and 536 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm very hopefully that we're gonna see us really take 537 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: off in the last seven weeks, or we can look 538 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: at some of those dirt downs. I think it's Monday, 539 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: you said you got to get the balled at Gerald 540 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Tyler K. You look at those dirt downs. Why isn't 541 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: that happening. No, we haven't converted. You know, it's one 542 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: reason or another. You know, it's whether it's the it's 543 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: the opportunity, it's the throw, it's you know, that's what 544 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: we've intended to do the whole time. And so I'm 545 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: disappointed that I can't tell you that we're getting it done. 546 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: So that's we you know, we are resigned to the 547 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: thought that that's a really good thought. And so we're 548 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: gonna keep working at because what do you how do 549 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: you how do you work on that in practice? Is 550 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: it a change of philosophies that just better execution? What 551 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: do you work once? We work on it every week. 552 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: And so it's that's not the part that we can 553 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: change a whole lot, because we're already getting the reps 554 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: and all we've we've got to execute better and uh 555 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: and and hit it, you know. And so I gotta 556 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: get Rush in the groove and got to get those 557 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: guys in the groove too, So that we're really counting 558 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: on each other to come through when the time calls 559 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: for it. Simplifying of anything in terms of the game 560 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: plan and better often often simplifying is a way we go, 561 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, and to you know, to make sure that 562 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: we're getting enough turns, enough reps at stuff. And so, uh, 563 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: we have we have trimmed some things a little bit 564 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: um in the last couple of weeks. So we're hoping 565 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: that we'll you know, reap the benefits of that. Quandres 566 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: leading the NFC and Poll Bowl vote right number of 567 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: free safety who season he's had. You tell me, what 568 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: is he leading in NAT in the Pole Bowl vote? Oh? Okay, yeah, Well, um, 569 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: I think he shows who he is every time we 570 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: go out. He shows that he's a he's a terrific 571 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: deep defender. He's an alley player that that just shows 572 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: up with such style, you know, and there's only a 573 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: couple of guys in the league that play like he plays. 574 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: His tackling has been excellent, his playmaking has been really good, 575 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: and he continues to be you know, it's obvious that 576 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: he's a really good player. More than that, you know 577 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: that this isn't what the vote generates but his leadership 578 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: for us and with our guys and keep it together 579 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: and running the show back there is really is really apparent, 580 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: and it's great that he's getting recognized when it comes 581 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: to this Nash across the because of line alt Robinson 582 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: hasn't seen a more lot of time. That's something you 583 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: would like to see more of. Is it just you 584 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: would like to see him one third down? So yeah, 585 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: we want to see him in the passing situations and 586 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: that when we're in the two minute situations and in 587 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: third down situations, he's going to get more turns. All right, 588 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: everything you need to know from Pete Carroll's press conference, 589 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: plus another preview for this game coming your way. Next 590 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: on the huddle. This is the huddle with Dave Wyman J. 591 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: C Ross. We were getting you guys ready for the 592 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks upcoming game, a Monday night game again Washington Fall 593 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: got a couple of games from Team Carroll. In that 594 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: last second, let's run the start with this injury update. 595 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Cornerback DJ Reid, who missed last week of the groin injury, 596 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: will practice. So Dave, I'll start with you with this one. 597 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: What's going to be the goal for this cornerback group 598 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: in particular, now that they're heading into a season without 599 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: Trey Brown. Yeah, it's too bad because he was playing 600 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: so well. I mean he was playing as much like 601 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: a veteran as any veteran. But um, I liked what 602 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: I saw it as Sydney Jones, I mean, look, as 603 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: long as they can get DJ Reid back, And we 604 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: talked to Sydney the other day. Um, he had a 605 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: couple of really nice tackles and some good plays. And 606 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, he caught that interception the other day. I 607 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: mean it's just technically the ball hits the ground, but 608 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: he was still controlling the ball. So um, but yeah, 609 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: I think that's that's something that was probably the biggest 610 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: question mark. I mean, look where they've been. I mean 611 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: they went from a Kilo Witherspoon. I just looked up 612 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: his stats. He's in Pittsburgh, and I think he has like, 613 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, twenty five snaps or something like that. Yeah. 614 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't think Trey Flowers has played yet though, And 615 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: and I loved Trey, but he just couldn't figure it out. 616 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: You couldn't figure out how to get out of his 617 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: own head. But you know, I always thought dj Reid 618 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: was the best cover guy, but I never you know, 619 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: I didn't even know about Trey Brown. I just was 620 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: he was a question mark. The only thing that was 621 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: that kind of clued you in is that Pete during 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: camp said he didn't make any mistakes. And I have 623 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: to say, would you guys remember him making a mistake. 624 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean I don't, yeah, not until he was that 625 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: play that he was injured. He got kind of beat there, 626 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: but he was injured, and it's hard to tell. I 627 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: think the injury itself, yes, is what stopped him from 628 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: making the play. So m yeah, and that was that 629 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: was it. And it's just a shame because I mean 630 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: he's done for the year. Attendant surgery. Let's look at 631 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: an upfront. Pete Carroll was asked about Carlos Dunlap, who 632 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: played I think a season low and snaps and you know, 633 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: he was asked, Hey, was he injured? He said, no, 634 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: that's just how the game plan went. Jake, I'll go 635 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: to you for this one. Are you surprised by how 636 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: Carlos's season has started? And how do you think that 637 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: pass rush as a hole can get? Right? Yeah, I'm 638 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: very surprised. I mean everybody here was excited about bringing 639 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap back. I mean, we all saw the impact 640 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: that he had for this team and the his ability 641 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: at his size to be able to bull rush and 642 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: collapse the pocket into you know, a couple of times 643 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: he literally ran over tackles to get sacks, and you're 644 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: just not seeing that from him and Carlos Dunlap. I mean, 645 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: he was on with you guys, you know, was it 646 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: last week or two weeks ago, and he alluded to 647 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: the to the fact that he's playing a different role. 648 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: And Dave I wanted to ask you, have you seen 649 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: him being put in a different role this year than 650 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: compared to last because I still see him get opportunities 651 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: on the edge in passing situations, and I just don't 652 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: see him winning the one on one battles like he 653 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: did a year ago. Yeah, I agree. I mean remember 654 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: the sack he had in Buffalo where he just bull 655 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: rushed the guy. Yes, you know, and I remember with 656 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: one hand he's bull rushing the tackle. On the other hand, 657 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: he's grabbing Josh Allen who's a big dude and got 658 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: him on the ground. So that has in the case. 659 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: I think. Also, he said in his interview. I didn't. 660 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to read anything into it. He seemed 661 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Bob thought he seemed a little bit irritated, but he said, yeah, 662 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm not getting very tired because they're really limiting my reps. 663 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: And if you go and look, well the reason why 664 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: he left Cincinnati and got himself out of there was 665 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: because of a lack of reps. So you know, he 666 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: said he didn't get too tired, so I'm not sure 667 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: of that. The other question I have is, I'm just 668 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of the zone blitz where 669 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: you're dropping off defensive lineman back into into coverage. Can 670 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: you explains why specifically you don't like it. Well, I 671 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: don't like it because you have defensive lineman dropping back 672 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: into pass his owns and they don't really know what 673 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: they're doing. I mean, look, I'm not saying it's so 674 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: complicated you can't pick it up, but that's not what 675 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: they do for a living. The other thing, I just, 676 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: in general, most guys will tell you most defensive lineman 677 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: that they could give a rip about an interception. You know, 678 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: we talked. I talked to Daryl Taylor, and I'm like, hey, 679 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: so you're gonna be dropping, maybe get some interceptions, because 680 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: interceptions don't get you, Sacks get you paid. Sacks get 681 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: you paid. So you know, that's why they're some of 682 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: the highest paid guys in the league. They want to 683 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. But also just when you drop 684 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: back into a zone, especially if it's Brian Money and 685 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: Al Woods. No offense to those guys. I mean, look, 686 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Buona Ford, but those aren't the most fleet of foot 687 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: guys back in his zone, you know, and you have 688 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: to kind of shuffle and turn and run. And the 689 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: other thing is just pattern recognition. As a linebacker when 690 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: you're in zone, your eyes are ninety percent of the 691 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: time on the quarterback and you sort of have to 692 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: feel what's going on behind you. Like if they run 693 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: a little check down in front of you and set 694 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: him down at five yards, you know, the greedy quarterback 695 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: does not want to throw the five yard check down. 696 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: He wants to throw the fifteen yard dig route. And 697 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: so when you jump that guilt all goes over your head. Yeah, 698 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: of course, I mean you want you want those guys 699 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: biting on those underneath routes. So and the reason why 700 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: they've gone to that more so than any of the 701 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: time that I call it a fire zone blitz. And 702 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: you know Da've talking about, you know, dropping linemen into coverage. 703 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: The reason why they're doing that and electing to when 704 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: they bring pressure to play zone is because for the 705 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: most part, they haven't been as confident in the corners 706 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: and everyone else Jamal Adams, you see why at different times, 707 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: especially that last drive of the game against the Cardinals, 708 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: playing in man demand situations, putting those guys in man 709 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: demand situations on a consistent basis, And that's not who 710 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: they've been in their history. They have been a zone 711 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: heavy team. And when they want to bring five, when 712 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: they want to bring six, they are going to play 713 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: man demand and and so it's been unique to see 714 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: them try to figure it out this way. And then 715 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: the other thing is that they don't disguise it well 716 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: at all. They tell the whole world, Hey, Jamal Adams 717 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: is gonna come, or somebody else is gonna you know, come, 718 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: and Benson Mayo or the defensive defensive end on the 719 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: other side's gonna drop. So that that part of it 720 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: just hasn't worked. And I would rather them just be 721 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: aggressive and just go for it. Yeah, you're gonna put 722 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: yourself a man demand, but you got to live and 723 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: die by trying to generate some pressure. That's a great point, Jake, 724 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: because usually you do that to surprise them. You surprise 725 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: the offense because they're counting and going, okay, I'm gonna 726 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: block this guy. You go back and all of a sudden, oh, 727 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: he's dropping back into his zone. But that has not 728 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: been the case that it's not like been a surprise 729 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: to opposing offenses. And so, yeah, that that one. I mean, look, 730 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm not the defensive coordinator. I get it. This goes 731 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: back to when I played. This goes back to when 732 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: I played. And you know, look, sometimes you substitute a 733 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: corner a safety as a pass rusher instead of the lineman. 734 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: You drop him out of there. That's that way you 735 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: It gives you a way to blitz and not have 736 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: to play man. And so but yeah, it just doesn't 737 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: It just doesn't work because I mean, most defensive tackles 738 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: are going to drop back and they're gonna cover a 739 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: seven yard patch of grass. What would you love to 740 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: see them do a bit more of instead? I mean 741 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: the implications obvious, but what would you love to see 742 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: them do more defensively? If it means doing less of that. Yeah, 743 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I liked the scheme last year 744 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: where you know, they just had the four guys in 745 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: the leo coming off the edge. You know, they've got 746 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: kind of a five man front going and a lot 747 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: of times they'll drop both guys out and just rush 748 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: three the three inside guys. And those aren't your I 749 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: mean your best premiere pass rushers, you know. I mean 750 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: it's Money Woods. I mean Money had a great game 751 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: in a second a half, right, It's really happy for him. 752 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: Those guys are typically the grinders in there. And with 753 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: all that said, I think like Al Woods has been 754 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: a hero on this defense. I know he jumped offsides 755 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: on the field goal, everybody got angry about that, but 756 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean he has been just yeoman's work inside. I 757 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: mean he's always how many times you see his ninety 758 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: nine jersey's like all twisted around, shout out to the 759 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: inside guy. Yeah. So I love that for Money that 760 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: he got a sack and a half, that was nice. 761 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: But you know, just I'd like to see a little 762 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: bit more of what we saw last year because I 763 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: remember at the end of the year, whatever they were doing, 764 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: they got thirty seven sacks in the last ten games. 765 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: Let me get to one more point here. Pee Carroll 766 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: was asked about Gerald Everett after what was a stellar 767 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: game by Everett and most especially Dabe. You mentioned this 768 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: earlier in the show, the idea of Everett breaking tackles, 769 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: pushing through guys, dragging guys. Carol says, quote, it just 770 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: screams that we have to keep going to him, go 771 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: to both of you. But Dave, I'll start with you. 772 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: If you could just show this team like a clip 773 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: of Everett, or like if you could point to a 774 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: moment that you saw from Everett where you thought, let's 775 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: play like this, like let's see more of this. Is 776 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 1: there a moment that comes to mind? Yeah, the other day, Yeah, 777 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: he had he broke three tackles and the one of 778 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: them was I think is at number ninety seven. I'm 779 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: trying to remember who that was, a big defensive tackle 780 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: inside dude war daddy as Mark shall Art likes to 781 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: call him. And you know, he so he steps out 782 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: of the first one, breaks the other one. I think 783 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: it was Isaiah Simmons. That guy comes ye and he 784 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: ends up ducking and twisting out of that one, and 785 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: then he just gets tattooed by Thompson. The safety comes 786 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: up and just kills him, you know. So he because 787 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: he's trying to break these other ones and this guy's 788 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: just beating. He's got a beat on him, knocks him 789 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: on his tail. He gets up and celebrates and runs 790 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: back to the field. I mean that to the to 791 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: the huddle. That gets everybody fired up, and you know, 792 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: and that's the other thing. Like I saw a couple 793 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: of guys on the sidelines get fired up about it, 794 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, on high fives and everything. But 795 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: like I feel like the whole team should have been 796 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: over there, Like that's without we need to play. You 797 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: need to play with passion, with anger. I mean I was, 798 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: I was angry after. I mean, it would take me 799 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 1: like an hour to calm down after a game. You 800 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: you have to play that way, and uh yeah, I'm 801 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to see that. I'm not really seeing that. Yeah. 802 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: To me, that is the ultimate sign of buying and 803 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: that has been one of the staples of a Pete 804 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: Carroll Litt program is the enthusiasm, the energy, the juice 805 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: that is conveyed from the coaching staff that permeates to 806 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: the players and permeates through the leadership, and then that 807 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: expectation is that it manifests itself on the field in 808 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: every aspect. And so when you look at some of 809 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: those things that are a little off, that aren't normal 810 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: to what you're seeing with this program, it does remind 811 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: you that they are three and seven. It does remind 812 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: you that there are things that they are trying to 813 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: work through. But in these next seven games, I don't 814 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: know how Pete Carroll and this stacy why we talked 815 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: about his coaching style and how it manifests itself in 816 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: difficult times versus times of hey always pointing to being 817 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: optimistic and always pointing to the chance that's in front 818 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: of you. Can you get these guys to continue to 819 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: play hard, continue to believe, continue to play with great 820 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: enthusiasm and passion and energy. And you know there are 821 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: certain guys that do show it, gerald ever being one 822 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: of them, but you would love to see that collective 823 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: excitement happen on this team. And I can't help but 824 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: think that a big reason why that has not happened 825 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: has been the offense and the lack of production that 826 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: you've seen from this offense. And if they could get 827 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: that going. I do think that you see some of 828 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: that come back. You are listening to the huddle. We've 829 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: got back to back to back to back experts joining 830 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: us to continue this preview. We're starting with Robert Turbin next, 831 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: don't oh anywhere. This is the huddle with Dave Wyman, 832 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. We are joined now by 833 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: NFL analysts who can hear him on the Seahawks pre 834 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: and post game show. It is Robert Turbin, Turbo, what's up? Hey, 835 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: how's everybody's going? We're good. I mean it's a it's 836 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: a Wednesday huddle, obviously, given Thanksgiving, I you know what 837 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do before we get into any football talk, 838 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: I have to ask Turbo the absolute best Thanksgiving side 839 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: because we're in a big disagreement here on the show. 840 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: Are you guys trying to disable between maccaroni and cheese? 841 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: You know I would go mac and cheese. Okay, I 842 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: would go mac and cheese. As a second, I said 843 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: stuffing first. I said stuffing first. I would go with stuff. 844 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: That's an jake and I hate stuffing. And and also 845 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: Stacy says that it's that gravy is not considered like 846 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: a it's not a sign a side or anything. Of course, Turbot, 847 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't without gravy. It is the quicktessential 848 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: aspect of a thanksgiving me. Yes, I've ever had on 849 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: the huddle. Yeah, but you're not gonna eat gravy. So 850 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: that's like maybe it's like yeah like for me, I 851 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: like I like stuffing, right, but I have to have 852 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: cranberry sauce with it. But I wouldn't say cranberry sauce 853 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: is like a side by itself. Well, I agree with 854 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: you because you don't put cranberry on everything. You put 855 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: gravy on nearly everything. Robert, you're making too much sense 856 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: for Jake right now. He can't. I know I'm making 857 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: too much thing. Oh sorry, all right, all right, Uh 858 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: I think now I think lesser of Turbo. I don't 859 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: want to never never teasing. I'm teasing, all right. Uh 860 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: So so let's go ahead and uh and look ahead 861 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: to this game against the Washington football team. It's gonna 862 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: be on the road while we have you here. I'm 863 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: actually really excited because I wanted to get your opinion 864 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: about Alex Collins just uh, you know, from from someone 865 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: who kind of knows what the game should look like. 866 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 1: What do you make of him just as a whole? 867 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: And a question that Dave asked us earlier that I 868 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: thought was great, I'll throw it to you is can 869 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: this team really like win with Alex Collins as a starter. Well, 870 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: I think given the opportunity, yes, they can win with Alex. 871 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: They think. The thing that we've seen with Alex throughout 872 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: this season, and the more opportunities that he has throughout 873 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: a football game to kill the ball, the better he gets. 874 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: He actually gets better as the game goes. He tends 875 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: to start to find his rhythm once he you know, 876 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: starts to get the you know, big chunk of carries 877 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: and get some carries to play, act to play, you know, 878 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: some plays in a row. And so with that, I 879 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: think you can win well. And Turbo tell us about 880 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: that as a running back, because you know, I've said 881 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: this before about Alex Collins. I think he's a rhythm 882 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: player and you mentioned that word for a running back. 883 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: How important is that? And then how many how many 884 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: carries do you need to get into a rhythm. Yeah, 885 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be different for everybody. That's 886 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: a good question. Heavy back is different, and everybody has 887 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: a different running style and it takes a different you know, 888 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: everybody's different as a potaint of how the game comes 889 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: to them. But I think for Alex and for me, 890 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: I was like that too. The more carries you get, 891 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: the better you start to feel a good rhythm and 892 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: have a good sense of what the defense is trying 893 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: to do and how they're trying to stop you. I 894 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: think once you get to about double digit carries, and 895 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: that could be ten, sometimes that can be twelve or fifteen. 896 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: But I think even more important than that is getting 897 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: carries in a row, you know, first down, second down, 898 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: third down, and that's how you really get to gauge 899 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: how different defenses are game planning against you and trying 900 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: to stop you. Now, Turbot, when you look at this 901 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: team and you look at the offense and everything that 902 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: they have trolled with, it's it's really frustrating and hard 903 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: when you don't have an identity and you know the 904 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks offense. It's it's been very perplexing and confusing because 905 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: all right, you know, no matter if you're struggling or 906 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: if you have guys injured, as long as you have 907 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: an identity, you know what you can fall back on, 908 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: and you know, Turbo, can you just speak to you 909 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: as a player what that means for everyone when they 910 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: have a firm understanding as to what their offense is 911 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: supposed to be centered and focused around. Yeah, I mean 912 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: when you have an identity, you know, you know who 913 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: you are. When you know who you are, you know 914 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: what you want to do and how you want to attack, 915 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: and then you avoid from an offensive perspective, you avoid 916 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: defenses dictating what it is you can and can't do. 917 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: You know, a team that has an identity a lot 918 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: of times in these meetings that we're having in our 919 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: game plan is yeah, you want to adjust and make 920 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: adjustments to what your opponent is doing to you, but 921 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: you don't want it to completely dictate how you're going 922 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: to run your style of play. Offensively, we're talking to 923 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: run offense right now, and so we have an identity, 924 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We'll sit these meetings and we'll say, you know, 925 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 1: you know this is what we're going to do against them, 926 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: as opposed saying this is what we're going to do 927 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: because they do this, and it's just a different mindset 928 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: and it just an approach when you know who you are, 929 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: Hey Turbot. I think when a team has three wins, 930 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot of pretty solid play by certain players gets overlooked, 931 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 1: right because the whole team is struggling. Is there anyone 932 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: it could be on offense? But I was assuming defensively 933 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: or special teams where you look at him and say, 934 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: you know what, this guy's doing some good stuff right now, 935 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: and not enough people are talking about it. Yeah, you 936 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: know what. I think DJ Dallas is returning the ball 937 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: well when he gets the opportunity, putting the offensive good 938 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 1: field position. Obviously, our punner is changing the field week 939 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: end and week out. He's doing a fantastic job. And 940 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: special teams. It's funny you mentioned special teams, and I 941 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: go right to special teams because it's the easiest part 942 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: of the game to overlook. It's so easy to go 943 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: offensive defense real quick. But I think our special teams, 944 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: aside from a few miss field goals, has overall been 945 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: really solid for our teams and giving us good field 946 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: position offensively. And then you know, obviously the rookie was 947 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: really impressive, Trey Brown before his injury. But you know, 948 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: to come back from an injury and not even really 949 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 1: playing in the beginning of the season and then get 950 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity and perform the way that he did before 951 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: going down is it's pretty impressive, especially for a rookie. 952 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: Usually rookies need a lot of practice time or more 953 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: practice time than others, and then to not start the 954 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: season on the field can sometimes be really tough to 955 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: just jump in there, you know, a quarter through the season. 956 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 1: And so for him to be able to do that 957 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: and play the way that he did, I thought was 958 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: really impressive. Hey, Robert was I had to hang around 959 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: and listen to your guests postgame show in person because 960 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: I love to my keys in my car, but not 961 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: because it wasn't. But you know, one of the things 962 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: that that we were just talking about, I think you 963 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: guys were talking about it in the post game, Um, 964 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: Jerald Everett just that the one where he breaks two 965 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 1: three tackles. He ends up getting plowed on the play, 966 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: but I mean he gets up, he's fired up. You've 967 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: seen him against Green Bay the last few weeks. Like 968 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: that guy's playing with a lot of passion. And you know, 969 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: I was thinking that that's something that I feel like 970 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: you should put that tape on. And that's how I'd 971 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: like to see this team play, but um, but I 972 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: don't know. What do you think this team just in 973 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: general is missing? Because you've been on some really good 974 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: teams and you know, I was just looking at your 975 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: numbers in twenty twelve and thirteen, and you've been around 976 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: some really talented players. What do you think this team 977 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: is missing? Yeah, I just don't think they have the 978 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: continuity right now. You know you mentioned Jald how you 979 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: read so much passion is you see so many great 980 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 1: end of visual efforts, but you know, for some reason 981 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: those individual efforts how they've been able to you know, 982 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: kind of come together a collective one, and you know 983 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: that's why we're in a lot of games and then 984 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: we strug to finish because we just don't have that connectivity. 985 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: And so, you know, there's one thing where you can 986 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: play with a lot of passion, and I think from 987 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 1: an effort standporter, our guyser are really playing hard, but 988 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: we just lacked execution, especially on the offensive side of 989 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: the ball, and that's why we can't finish games right now, 990 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: all right. He is Robert Turbin. You can hear him 991 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: on the Seahawks pre and postgame show every Seahawks game. 992 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: But don't forget this one's on a Monday. Thanks so much, Turbot. 993 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: Stay hungry, guys till Thursday at least. Thank you? All right. 994 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 1: The Voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, joins us next 995 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: on the Huddle. Don't go anywhere. This is the Huddle 996 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross joining us. Now, 997 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 1: the Voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, Hey, Rabes, how's 998 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: it going good? Stasie, how are you? I like that 999 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: we played insane in the membrane for Rabel, as is 1000 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: the bumper music DJ? What are you doing? I thought 1001 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: we were gonna get crazy here, you know what I mean? 1002 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: Like have a lot of fun. Dave said he likes 1003 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: that your intro song was insane in the membrane. Yeah, 1004 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. Who who? Who did this? 1005 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: Somebody's certainly not from my air. It wasn't If it 1006 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: wasn't Rosemary Clooney or Bing Crosby, I don't know it. 1007 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: If it wasn't nineteen fifties Christmas music, I don't know who. 1008 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: Oh shoot, okay, um Raves, I'm going to start with obviously, 1009 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: maybe a quick look back at this past game. It's 1010 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: hard to find much of this season to really love 1011 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: or really be happy about. But if you are going 1012 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: to look at one positive they can try to build on, 1013 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: is there anything you can think of? Wow? Well I will. 1014 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: First of all, you got your quarterback back healthy. That's 1015 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 1: one thing to kind of continue to build back on. 1016 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: He's not he's not there yet, not completely. He's healthy 1017 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: enough to play, but and I know when he said 1018 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: after the game this week, somebody asked him about what 1019 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,479 Speaker 1: about the rust, and he said, there is no rust. Well, 1020 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think it's it's kind of 1021 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: apparent that there is some rust out there, a little 1022 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: bit that you know, you're human, and it's okay to 1023 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: admit that miss on some throws. Maybe he didn't get 1024 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: a couple of the reads that he would have liked 1025 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: to have gotten. But all at all, considering what's happened, 1026 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: that's what you build on. You got your all world 1027 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: quarterback back. And yes, it hasn't been what anybody likes, 1028 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: and it's certainly what no one would have expected, especially 1029 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 1: since he's back on the field. So you start there. 1030 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: I'll go with one of the guys that Da've always 1031 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 1: talks about Gerald Everett. I mean, this guy has proven 1032 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: that he can play. He is just not to be tackled, 1033 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: and so he sort of sets the tone I think 1034 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: for the offense and in the style of offense. I 1035 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: believe that Shane Baldwin wants to play. The tight ends 1036 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: are very important. Those crossing routes, those underneath routes, those 1037 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: release routes out into the flat, a little whee around, 1038 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 1: keep those guys involved because a guy like Gerald Everard 1039 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: can turn a small play into a big play. So 1040 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: I like both of those things on offense and on defense. 1041 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: I sort of like the pressure that the big guys 1042 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: are starting to get up front. I don't know there 1043 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: will ever be a team that can generate four man pressure. 1044 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: We just don't have any of those kind of superstar 1045 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: sort of athletes on the on the edges that can 1046 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,919 Speaker 1: can do that. But we're doing better job at getting 1047 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: some pressure on the quarterback. So I looked at both 1048 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 1: of those areas. By the way, Rabes, I had a moment. 1049 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: You know there's that commercial don't become your your parents 1050 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, and yeah, I'm becoming Steve Rabel because I 1051 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: did a podcast with Turbo and he goes, yeah, you know, 1052 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: I've seen you around doing radio, but I had no 1053 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: idea you played. And I was like, yeah, that's that's 1054 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of how I go. You know that old man, 1055 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: I work with Steve Rabel. He ran A four three 1056 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: seven forty at one point. So yeah, I'm becoming Steve 1057 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: Rabel and it actually feels pretty good, man, It feels 1058 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: pretty good. Good. Yeah. I was just at the grocery 1059 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 1: store a little while ago and a young man who 1060 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: was bagging my groceries said, uh, so, did you start 1061 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 1: in television news? And I said, well, no, I actually 1062 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: started in sports. Oh what interested you about sports? I said, 1063 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: because I played for like for my whole life. Oh 1064 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. You know, the kid is like 1065 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: twenty years old. How would he know. I don't know. 1066 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: I stopped playing before his parents were born. For crying, ull, 1067 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: I know. I hate that now kids the guys were 1068 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: talking to are born after my career. Yeah, so, but hey, 1069 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: uh this week, rabes Tyler Lockett after the game. I 1070 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you heard this quote, but he was saying, 1071 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: how what we're saying on film is not what we're getting. 1072 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: Like basically, he was saying that they're showing they're not 1073 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: doing the they're not playing the Seahawks the same way 1074 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: they play other teams. I don't know if you heard 1075 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: that quote, and I did, Yeah, what did you think 1076 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: I mean? Did you to me? I didn't really know 1077 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: what to say. I thought that could mean lots of things. 1078 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know if it's derogatory or 1079 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,280 Speaker 1: what he meant by that. What did you make of it? Well, 1080 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, I heard it when he actually said. I 1081 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: was in the room there on Sunday after the game 1082 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: listening to the guy's chat afterwards, and it caught me 1083 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: by surprise as well. And I'm not sure that Tyler 1084 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: meant it the way he said it the way it 1085 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: came out. Um, you know, these guys are prepared. I don't. 1086 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot of doubt about that. Besides, 1087 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: there's only so many things you can do and show 1088 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: as you get ready for football games. And they've seen 1089 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: Arizona a lot. They know what the Cardinals do on defense, 1090 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: so they might have thrown a couple of, you know, 1091 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: a couple of new little wrinkles in there or something 1092 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: like that, and maybe it happened on a play or 1093 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: two that seemed to make it stand out more than 1094 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: otherwise it would. But I you know, Pete came back 1095 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: afterwards and said, well, I'm not sure what Tyler was 1096 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: referring to, but as he said, Pete said, I think 1097 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 1: on Monday, no, we we sort of expected, we knew 1098 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: what they were going to do, and they kind of 1099 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: did it. And then I heard Matthew talking this morning 1100 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: Hasselbeck and he said basically the same thing. He said, 1101 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that I saw a whole lot of 1102 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: new So I don't know. I just kind of chalk 1103 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: it up to maybe a little bit of frustration and 1104 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: completely understandable. But I think these guys are I mean, 1105 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: I think game plans are being drawn up, and they're 1106 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: looking at enough film and all that. I think it 1107 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: just comes down to one word, execution. They're just not 1108 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 1: executing the offense the way it should be. Raves, I'm 1109 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: right there with you, and I echo Pete, Russ and 1110 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: matt for that matter. I mean, studying these guys, I 1111 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: didn't see one thing on there that really was a 1112 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: big surprise in terms of what they did and what 1113 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: they tried to do from the years of a game plan. 1114 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 1: But from Tyler's perspective, it can be frustrating to walk 1115 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: into a situation say, here's our game plan, or for example, 1116 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, the calls that are made in the red 1117 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: zone versus what they actually do and what they've majored 1118 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: in for years and years and or the things that 1119 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: they've worked on in the offseason they don't actually get 1120 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: called in a game. I mean, you know, I do 1121 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: think that execution and game planning uh does come into 1122 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: a factor there, and how frustrating that might be to 1123 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: go into a practice and feel like you have the 1124 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: answers and feel like you're you've got the right plan 1125 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 1: as a player, and then to not see those things 1126 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: manifest itself in a game. Yeah, absolutely, and it and 1127 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 1: it affects everybody differently. You know, Tyler Lockett is about 1128 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: as much a team player as anybody I can think of. 1129 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: He is a he is a very thoughtful person, and 1130 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 1: we all know that he's just an incredible, fearless football player. Uh. 1131 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: And you know, if if he was, if if he 1132 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: believed that's what he saw, then if I'm the offensive coordinator, 1133 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: if I'm the wide receiver coach, I want to sit 1134 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: down and talk to him and tell me Tyler what 1135 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 1: it was that you saw. Tell me what we can do, 1136 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: How can we make sure that this doesn't crop up again? Anything? 1137 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: Because I'm you know, I'm I'm all in on Tyler Lockett. 1138 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best, not only players, 1139 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: but people that I know. Can I throw a quick 1140 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,720 Speaker 1: story at you, Jake real fast talking about not being 1141 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: prepared or being underprepared, And I go back to my 1142 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: rookie season nineteen seventy six. We're playing the Rams down 1143 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles Coliseum and they had a guy 1144 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: named Dave Elmendorff who was a safety free safety. Nolan 1145 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: Cromwell was their strong safety former coach here under Mike. 1146 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: And we come out and we're trying to move the 1147 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: ball down the field and they're they're, you know, a 1148 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 1: really good team, Jack young Blood and Fred Dryer. I mean, 1149 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: these are great players and we can't do anything. So 1150 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: we're trying to throw the football and we had a 1151 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 1: quarterback who was a former Detroit Lion named Bill Munson 1152 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 1: who was playing it towards the end of the game, 1153 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: and he called a slant route to my side. So 1154 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: I run this slant and I'd get hammered before the 1155 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,879 Speaker 1: ball ever got there, and munths and screams at me about, hey, 1156 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: you should have broken that off outside the safety blitzed 1157 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: and they did a lot of that that game, and 1158 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: I said, I had no idea. First of all, I 1159 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: didn't know to look for it because we'd never talked 1160 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: about it. And in the locker room after the game, 1161 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 1: Jack Petera came over to me and he said, that 1162 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: was on us. We didn't prepare you for that. We 1163 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: didn't think they'd do it. We didn't prepare you. That's 1164 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: not your fault. And it never happened to me. Again, 1165 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: I was always aware. But you know, guys are they 1166 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: really want to try to do the right thing. And 1167 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say that Tyler is doing the right thing. 1168 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: Talk it over with your coaches. Now let's come out 1169 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: and execute. He is the voice of the Seahawks. Steve 1170 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: Rabel joins us every single week for the huddle. Rabes 1171 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Have a good Thanksgiving. Thank you you 1172 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: guys too. Sorry I took up all my time telling 1173 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:57,919 Speaker 1: an old guy won safe some for Sunday, buddy, Oh well, 1174 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: I'll be there Monday. But if you were up on 1175 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: he's that exciting to see how he is. I try 1176 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: to be nice to stick it to Sharon Dave. Dave, 1177 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: a listener says, if it makes you feel any better, Dave, 1178 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm keeping your playing career memories alive by introducing my 1179 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: kids to Techno Super Techmo super Bowl. For the nes 1180 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: you'll live on in our house. I remember my kids 1181 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 1: tell me it's awesome that I coached. Yeah, and then 1182 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: and then somebody told me at one point, um because 1183 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: they delineate, they said you're black and on tech Mobile 1184 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, awesome, that's coolastic. I mean, it 1185 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: was it was that time of year. Yeah, Mike. The 1186 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: kids that I was coaching at Redmond High School, Yeah, 1187 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: they were all playing tech Mobile and they're like, and 1188 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, how am i as far as the Tech 1189 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: Mobile rating school? And they would give me like a 1190 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: three point four out of five or whatever. I was like, oh, 1191 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: come on man, Yeah, but all right, we're going across 1192 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: enemy lines for an opponent review. Next, I'm a huddle. 1193 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. You are listening to the huddle with 1194 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jakeeps, and Stacy ross Corn across enemy line 1195 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: here for an opponent review of the Washington football team 1196 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: with John Time of e SP and John, how's it going. 1197 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm going, all right, how are you guys? Well, not great, John, No, 1198 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: it's it's fine. We're all having fun. Everyone's happy heading 1199 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: into a holiday weekend, and obviously there's plenty to be 1200 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 1: grateful for with this team, even if it's been a really, 1201 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: really tough season and we're all still trying to figure 1202 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: it out here. But honestly, I'm still trying to figure 1203 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: out parts of Washington's team, specifically the defense. What's been 1204 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: going on on that side of the ball this year. 1205 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: Well I'm kind of trying to figure it out as well, 1206 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: because there's been an abrupt change. But the reality is 1207 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: early in the year there were there were you know, 1208 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: yok at each group individually a defensive line, even though 1209 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: as talented as it was, you still had some young 1210 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: defense events at Chase Young Amankee Sweat, and while I 1211 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: thought individually several of them were playing well, collectively, I 1212 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: didn't think they're playing well as a group and doing 1213 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: little things that might be better for team football rather 1214 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: than individual stats. That has improved the secondary had a 1215 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: lot of new parts that you had landing Collins coming 1216 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: back from an achilles injury, but he'd only played like 1217 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: four games of four or five games in the defense 1218 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: last year, so he was kind of new. But you know, 1219 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: coming back from an injury then, yet Bio McCain safety knew, 1220 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: William Jackson corner knew, Benjamin Saint Jus a draft pick new, 1221 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 1: So there were a lot of new parts to mesh 1222 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: and I think it took him a few minutes to 1223 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: get the trust and communication down. Now what you see, 1224 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: and the other thing is they're playing Landing Collins more 1225 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: as a traditional safety, where he was back a lot 1226 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: sometimes up in the box. Now he's a little bit 1227 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: more probably for lack of better comparison, like more Jamal 1228 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Adams type. He's kind of playing a much more of 1229 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: a hybrid role. And you know, sometimes linebacker sometimes safety. 1230 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: That has made a difference, And so I think the 1231 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: safety play has been a lot better. The linebacker play 1232 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: has been inconsistent. But I think you when what you're 1233 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: seeing lately are three different position groups each getting better, 1234 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: but especially the front and the back end. Hey John 1235 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: tell us about the personality of Taylor Heineke. He looks 1236 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: like he's a scrappy guy. I mean, we're looking at 1237 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: his numbers, but as far as his personality, his leadership, 1238 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: what he means to that team, I mean he plays 1239 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: with He's got a little bit of a swagger for 1240 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: a guy who was an undrafted free agent and who 1241 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: was on the in an old Dominion university classroom a 1242 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 1: year ago at this time. Yeah, and so when you 1243 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: he's been an underdog his whole life and he's always overcoming. 1244 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: So I think he kind of plays with that little 1245 01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: bit of a confident swagger, knowing that you may him 1246 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: to estimate me, but I always come through at the end. 1247 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: That's kind of how he plays. And I think that 1248 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: great determination, wherever you want to call it, does rub off. 1249 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Now he's had to grow into being a leader. I 1250 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't I don't know if i'd call him a great 1251 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: leader at this point, because I don't think he's plain 1252 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: enough to be bad. I think if he did, I 1253 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: think he could develop into one down the road. But 1254 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: right now, I think what you're you know, I think 1255 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: for him, he's only started. He's about eleven or twelve 1256 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: games in the NFL, so but I think he's becoming 1257 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: more of a leader. Whereas I think guys are starting 1258 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: to trust him a little bit more and see what 1259 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: he can do. I mean, he definitely got away. He 1260 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: definitely gets away with some things on the field where 1261 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: you're a little bit surprised, like, well, how did he 1262 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: not throw a couple more picks in that game? But 1263 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: the last few weeks he's been really good. I think 1264 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: some of that stuff is starting to build, and you 1265 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: do see the mindset. I think guys gravitate towards now. 1266 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that you look at 1267 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: as well, it comes to the Washington football team. That 1268 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: has really been impressive to me has been how good 1269 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: they've been in the in the rush defense. I know 1270 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: they've struggled in the passing game, but what has been 1271 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: one of the big reasons why they've been so good 1272 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: in that area specifically, Well, I think you know, the 1273 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: defensive line has been good. John Allen has been terrific. 1274 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: Um Chase Young was not getting to the pastor but 1275 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: he was playing to run well. Now obviously he's out 1276 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: for the year. Now. One of the guys who placed 1277 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: him as James Smith Williams, who is good against the run. 1278 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: So you start there, I think, I think what you're 1279 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: seeing are what you'd see a lot of, too much 1280 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,959 Speaker 1: of and the first part of the season are two 1281 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: guys in one gap, which means that one gap is 1282 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm unfilled. That's where the back would hit. So you're 1283 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: getting you know, you're seeing less of that. Some of 1284 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: that is you have a rookie linebacker and Jamon Davis 1285 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: who is getting better, and yet a second or third 1286 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: year linebacker Cole Holcum, who also is getting better. Neither 1287 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: one of them is a true middle linebacker, and I 1288 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,919 Speaker 1: think that sometimes gets them in trouble. I think they've 1289 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: done a better job at reading being in their gaps. 1290 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: And I think the last thing with that, I go 1291 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: back to the secondary. Atlantic College has done a really 1292 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: good job in the boxing area, and I think that's 1293 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: made a difference as well. Hey John, just a hypothetical 1294 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: here for fun. Let's say that you were to tell 1295 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 1: someone who is playing this team, like an opponent, how 1296 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: they could beat the Washington football team asking for a friend, 1297 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: what would be like maybe a weakness or maybe a 1298 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: plan to do that? Yeah, I mean I would First 1299 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: of all, you want to keep Taylor Heineke in the pocket. 1300 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: He's not a pure pocket pass so he's gonna hurt you. 1301 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: He's a little bit like you know. I mean, he's 1302 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: certainly not Russell Wilson, but you know that Russell likes 1303 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 1: to get out there and he can create these dangers 1304 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 1: outside there. Well, so is Heineke. You know, he can 1305 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: extend plays and get away from guys keeping the pocket. 1306 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 1: I think if you stop the run game for them, 1307 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: get them in a lot of certain lawns and you're 1308 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay. And they've done well running the 1309 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: ball the last couple of weeks, more committed to it. 1310 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: I think then with the run game commitment, you want 1311 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: to get ahead. And I think I would still test 1312 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: like earlier in the year, you could test the secondary game. 1313 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 1: There was always a blown coverage. I think I would 1314 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 1: try and get target William Jackson and there with their 1315 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: in zone coverage because that's a weakness of his still, 1316 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: and you know, I would probably get I don't know 1317 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 1: if you know, you have to have the run game, 1318 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: but get them moving a little bit and maybe some 1319 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 1: shifting and all that to test their gap discipline on 1320 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the run game. Hey, John, we were talking. I was 1321 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 1: raving about Ron Rivera. Actually played against him when he 1322 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: was at cal and I was at Stanford and I 1323 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: was telling him how much these guys how much I 1324 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: always respected him, and you know, he just he's kind 1325 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: of become the I feel like he's sort of the 1326 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: savior of the franchise just because you know, you thought 1327 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: about Dan Snyder and you know, however you feel about that. 1328 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like Ron rivera kind of overwhelms everybody 1329 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: with just his honor and just the way, you know, 1330 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 1: he's such a such a good man. It feels like 1331 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: he's just the ultimate leader and his kind of does 1332 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: this team kind of reflect him to a degree? I 1333 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: think it does. I think one of the things she's 1334 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 1: he obviously came into a very difficult situation. I mean, 1335 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a difficult situation anytime you come here 1336 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: as a coach, because they there there isn't a foundation 1337 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: of success typically. But it was obviously a lot harder 1338 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: for him because you come in, you got, first of all, 1339 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: you got the pandemic, you have the rise that, you 1340 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: have the name change, then you have the sexual harassment stuff. Yeah, 1341 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: and it was one thing after another, and to calm 1342 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: and study the ship during all that, and you don't 1343 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 1: really have a quarterback that's like you know you. I mean, 1344 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: there are other franchises they're probably in disarray, but they 1345 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: have a great quarterback and so maybe it doesn't matter. 1346 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: You know, you don't see it quite as much. So 1347 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: I think some of the stuff stood out. But I 1348 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: think I think his approach. I think he has a 1349 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: very consistent approach with his philosophy, with his um dealing 1350 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 1: with players. I think that helps. Um. I think he 1351 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: doesn't you know, he's really good at not calling them 1352 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 1: out unless he gets to a point where it feels 1353 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: like I've got no choice, but it usually he takes 1354 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: a long time to get there, and he's usually working 1355 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: with a player behind the scenes before then, and um, 1356 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: so I think that all. So I think there is 1357 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: a reflection of that. And I think you're starting to 1358 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: see a little bit more too, because I think, guy 1359 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: who's a former linebacker, you expecting to coach a tough team, right, 1360 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 1: I think they're becoming a more tough, physical team lately, 1361 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: and so I think that's probably a little bit more 1362 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: reflection of his personality as well. He is. John Kime 1363 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: covers the Washington football team for ESPN. John, thanks so 1364 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: much for joining us today. Thanks for having me on 1365 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, have a good weekend, all right. Joining 1366 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 1: us next for our final segment, Seahawks dot Com reporter 1367 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: John Boyle. We're gonna get some final updates from him 1368 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: and then share some final thoughts before we head into 1369 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 1: a holiday weekend. Don't go anywhere good looking forward to 1370 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,759 Speaker 1: a lot of Thanksgiving meals, even though there are horrific 1371 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving food opinions on this show that we don't need 1372 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: to call out. I mean, it's okay, I want to hear, Okay, Well, sure, sure, 1373 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 1: you don't have to. Well, here's the worst one, David, 1374 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: I think, David, I think that gravy is the quintessential 1375 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 1: aspect about it. No, no no, no, no no, you are not 1376 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: phrasing this correctly. Jake said gravy is the best Thanksgiving dish, 1377 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: to which to which Dave agreed, Well, I'd say it's 1378 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: the most important. Yes, thank you. I mean you can't 1379 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: eat dry turkey boil. You just can't. It's important, but 1380 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: it's basically a glorifying cogniment. You could have, things wouldn't 1381 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: be as good. Oh my gosh, gravy, And it is important, 1382 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: but it's not its own dish. You're not gonna just 1383 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 1: sit down and eat some Well maybe you would, but 1384 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit down and just eat some gravy. 1385 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: If if if turkey and let's say, like potatoes are 1386 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: like the offensive defensive lines, you got to make sure 1387 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,759 Speaker 1: you have those like right, like turkeys like in the trenches. 1388 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 1: Then the gravy is like you know your your number 1389 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: one top to your wide receiver. Do you know gravy 1390 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson, Both of you are fighting. What is 1391 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: what you will do yourself? You will take the gravy 1392 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,959 Speaker 1: and you will put it all over your Thanksgiving dish, 1393 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: your turkey, your mashed potatoes, and maybe something else, because 1394 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 1: it's that good and that important to a thanksgiving me. Yeah, 1395 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 1: and like I guess I would. I would say this 1396 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: for me to consider something that dish, it's something you 1397 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: could eat theoretically on its own. And I'm not going 1398 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: to grab a spoon and just eat some gravey. Well, yeah, 1399 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,040 Speaker 1: we're not speaking for wine. It's still really important. And 1400 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,600 Speaker 1: then I would say, just like Russell Wilson, it covers 1401 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: lots of wartz, covers some of the bad food, It 1402 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 1: covers every Well, let's start with Russell Wilson here here, 1403 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 1: John h. He hasn't had his best stretch of games, 1404 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: been been a little up, a little down, and he's 1405 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: usually a model of consistency. Are there any common themes 1406 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,640 Speaker 1: that you're finding in some of his struggles? Um, you know, 1407 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't know about common themes because I think you 1408 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 1: know that first game there's just some more uncharacteristic throws 1409 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,640 Speaker 1: are just uncharacterististically off and we saw a little bit 1410 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 1: out last week, but you go back and look at 1411 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 1: some of the throws that they weren't connect on. He 1412 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 1: was like that deep ball to DK Metcalf. I mean, 1413 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 1: you questioned the decision because it was well covered, but 1414 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 1: that was a damn near perfect throw, just launched down. 1415 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Feel like what we're used to seeing with him. So, 1416 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think physically it seems like he's getting 1417 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: better and throwing the ball well, but obviously it's you know, 1418 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 1: the numbers show it wasn't a good game for him 1419 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 1: or that offense as a whole. You know, there are 1420 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,759 Speaker 1: some times of receivers could have helped him and weren't 1421 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: hanging onto balls. There are some times maybe he didn't 1422 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 1: see things or just didn't get rid of it in 1423 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: time leading to sacks are in completion, So I think 1424 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 1: the blame can kind of be spread around. But when 1425 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,639 Speaker 1: you just talk about, you know, some things, that looks 1426 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,680 Speaker 1: a little more concerning. In Green Bay, I thought his 1427 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 1: throws just sometimes much more off, whereas he looked better 1428 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: just throwing the ball, which I think big picture wise, 1429 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about the improvement they need to see offensively 1430 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: at that. To me, that part's more encouraging. Hey, John, 1431 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 1: I'll ask you the same question I asked Rabel and 1432 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: I just I like to hear everybody's opinion on what 1433 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,559 Speaker 1: you think Tyler Lockett meant when he said and Pete 1434 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: clarified it because somebody asked him about and he goes, well, 1435 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 1: you're assuming he's right. But you know, Tyler said, we're 1436 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: not seeing the same defenses. They're not playing us the 1437 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 1: way they they play other teams. What did you take? 1438 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 1: What did you make from that? It is interesting because 1439 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you know he said that, and then Russell Wilson kind 1440 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: of said that wasn't as much the case Pete Carroll's. 1441 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,759 Speaker 1: I think he was just kind of more being glib 1442 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 1: with that. You know, he assume he's right, because then 1443 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: he follow that up immediately and said, you know, I'm 1444 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: not going to speak on that because I didn't hear 1445 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 1: exactly what Tyler said, so I don't think he was 1446 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,799 Speaker 1: saying that necessarily to give Tyler hard time or anything. 1447 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, obviously there's something Defense are doing 1448 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 1: that seemed to be confused in the offense because it 1449 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,600 Speaker 1: has been a struggle on third down as everyone in 1450 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: the world, as noted, has not been good at all. 1451 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know, maybe Tyler Lockett's just 1452 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 1: sometimes these things at old differently than other people, and 1453 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 1: that's fine as long as they're all on the same 1454 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 1: page and as working. And you know, they got a 1455 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: lot to clean up. And I don't read a ton 1456 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: necessarily just in those comments what's been said by individual guys, 1457 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 1: but you know, the overall body of work needs to improve, 1458 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 1: for sure, John, this is the first time that they've 1459 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 1: ever been in this situation, you know, Pete Carroll, John 1460 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: or Russell Wilson, Bobby Wagner, a lot of these you know, 1461 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 1: older veterans here in Seattle, with this particular organization having 1462 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: to really talk about a three and seventy with really 1463 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, hardly any playoff hopes. Have you noticed a 1464 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 1: change or or a different toned the way that they're talking, 1465 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 1: the way that they're conversating to the media as they 1466 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: are not post game, but now once they're starting to 1467 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,719 Speaker 1: talk about the media and the way that they're getting 1468 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 1: into their week, day to day you know, preparations. No, 1469 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's a good distinction because obviously postgame 1470 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 1: people are going to be more down and more frustrated 1471 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,639 Speaker 1: right after a loss. But no, in terms of what 1472 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 1: we hear from players, you know, during the week, both 1473 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 1: this week and last week and after other losses. I mean, 1474 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: that's a big part of Pete Carroll's messaging and I 1475 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 1: think a big part of what has led this team 1476 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: over the years to be really good year after years. 1477 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: They're really good at putting the path behind them, good 1478 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: or bad, you know, whether it's coming off a big 1479 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,760 Speaker 1: win or also just focusing on the task to hand. 1480 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, the players we heard from today, guys like 1481 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and Ryan You'll just seemed, you know, really 1482 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: positive and everybody's still got the mentality of this team 1483 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: sales time, turnaround, we can win along of games. Care 1484 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,559 Speaker 1: even made the comment he has asked about three and 1485 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 1: seven affecting the future things with him and Russell Wilson 1486 01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 1: all that, and he said, yeah, I'm more interested in 1487 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 1: how going seven oh is going to affect things. So 1488 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 1: everybody here is so confident, and the question is, you know, 1489 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: have they dug too big of a hole to get 1490 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,400 Speaker 1: out of even if they do get hot? Very last 1491 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,000 Speaker 1: question here, Trey Brown is gonna have season enduring surgery. 1492 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Already had surgery. It looks like yea. And so I'm 1493 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 1: both disappointed and pleasantly surprised and disappointed for him and 1494 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,719 Speaker 1: how his season ended, but pleasantly surprised because I'm shocked 1495 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 1: that I'm asking you a question of without Trey Brown, 1496 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: what's this group going to do for depth and kind 1497 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 1: of what's the look of the group moving forward? So 1498 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: who are some of the guys that you're looking at thinking? Okay, 1499 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,520 Speaker 1: it's really on him now. Yeah, it is really unfortunate, 1500 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 1: As you said, nobody necessarily coming to the season expecting 1501 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 1: the fourth round pick to come in and be a 1502 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 1: starter and do everything he's done. He's been so good, 1503 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: so it is a blow to lose him. You know. 1504 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 1: The assumption is Sydney Jones is the next man up. 1505 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 1: He was actually starting in that west cornerback role before 1506 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Trey Brown took over, and he played well last week, 1507 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 1: you know, starting that game for GJ. Reid and then 1508 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: moving over taking over for Trey Brown, so you know 1509 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 1: he's the guy there. The question then become, you know, 1510 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,639 Speaker 1: DJ Read ab we'll get back this week. Pete Carroll 1511 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: did say he would practice today, but there's no injury report, 1512 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 1: so they don't really have to give a lot of 1513 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: details until the injury reports start coming out tomorrow with 1514 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: a Monday game, so you know, it's pretty obvious if 1515 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 1: if replays, we're looking at Read and Sidney Jones. But 1516 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 1: if Read can't go, then you probably have to get 1517 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 1: blessed Austin going again. You know. Pete Carroll said he 1518 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 1: was solved in that first game. It was his first 1519 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: time out, so he'll have room to grow. But you know, 1520 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: those are kind of the next guys up right now. 1521 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 1: All right, he is SAKS dot Com reporter John Boyle. John, 1522 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 1: have a good weekend. We'll talk to you next week. 1523 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, happy, Thanks for we will all right. He 1524 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: is John Boyle and wrapping things up here. You guys. 1525 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 1: It's it's it's going to be a really tough one 1526 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 1: against the Washington football team because it felt tough for 1527 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 1: Seattle to get wins this year. But we know they 1528 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 1: have it in them. So h for Dave Wyman, for 1529 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 1: Jay Keeps. I'm Stacy Ross. You guys have a wonderful 1530 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: and holiday weekend. We're thankful for all of you listening. 1531 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 1: And don't forget it's going to be a Monday night game, 1532 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: this one against the Washington football team. This has been 1533 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:07,759 Speaker 1: the huddle