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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know

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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant

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Speaker 1: that makes this stuff you should know? Hey, man, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing? You're all smiles, aren't you? I am?

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Speaker 1: Is this uh, this article that we're about to talk about?

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Speaker 1: Did it make you smile? Reading it? Like the contages? Yawn? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty smiling though. You're fairly smiling unless I'm actively

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Speaker 1: piste off about something, and then I'll probably be smiling. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but you just seen me up sat too. That happens.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen you upset. Hey, you just smiled just now?

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Speaker 1: Maybe smile? Was that a fake smiler? Was that a

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Speaker 1: what's called a duchese smile? That was Duquese baby all

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Speaker 1: the way? So we're gonna go with Duke, but it

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Speaker 1: could be Duken. Uh, there's two ends, so I think

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Speaker 1: it may be Duken zu Ken smile. It's French. It's

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Speaker 1: named after a frenchie, Giom Duken. He's a neurologist, one

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Speaker 1: of the early ones where it was basically like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a brain there and it's in control of everything,

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Speaker 1: so let's test all sorts of crazy stuff and we'll

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Speaker 1: begin the field of neuroscience right in in eighteen sixty two,

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Speaker 1: sort of oddly at the time, I think there was

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Speaker 1: so much more interesting things going on to study. He

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Speaker 1: figured out that the you know, there's a natural smile,

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Speaker 1: and there are facial muscles involved in that that are

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Speaker 1: involved with the brain, and so he said, I will

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Speaker 1: name it after myself. Well, he was kind of an

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Speaker 1: interesting guy and that he was, from what I understand,

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Speaker 1: somewhat obsessed with the idea that muscles were connected to

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Speaker 1: the soul. Okay, which is weird because that kind of

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Speaker 1: provides the basis of later research into facial expressions and

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Speaker 1: specifically miling. But he was kind of onto something in

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Speaker 1: a weird, roundabout way. But the the way that he

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Speaker 1: isolated he was famous for isolating the facial expressions involved

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Speaker 1: in the smile. But he did it by taking emotion

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Speaker 1: out of the equation. I He did that by shocking

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Speaker 1: the facial muscles of patients in his hospital. That's how

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Speaker 1: he that's how he identified what muscles were involved in

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Speaker 1: a smile and a genuine smile yeah um and uh yeah.

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Speaker 1: He he was known to um basically shock people's faces.

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Speaker 1: There's a picture of him with a patient these two um,

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Speaker 1: these two basically rods that you would use to shock

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Speaker 1: somebody and the person is going like, uh, I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing this on my own. Yeah wow, Well let's do

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Speaker 1: can okay, And that was some pretty shocking experiment station.

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Speaker 1: So you can right comes up with a smile and

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Speaker 1: it's a that's the genuine smile, but there's also a

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Speaker 1: fixed mile and the do ken smile. Also, if you're interested,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Um, I didn't send it to you, but there's

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Speaker 1: this thing called spot the Fake Smile on BBC. It's

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Speaker 1: like twenty different pictures and you pick whether it's fake

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Speaker 1: they were kind of hard. But the key is when

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Speaker 1: you're looking for a genuine smile, the eyes are involved.

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Speaker 1: You get the crow's feet right, um, you you're you're

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Speaker 1: you get kind of squinty. That's a real smile. Fake

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Speaker 1: smiles just the mouth. Yeah. I have jokingly doctored up

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Speaker 1: that's that's my bag. Um. But it Emily always says,

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Speaker 1: when you see a guy fall down on the street

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Speaker 1: because that's from the whole happy face boom um. You

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Speaker 1: So well, people don't put funding into figuring out, what,

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Speaker 1: generate positive feelings from smiling. Right, But there there are

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Speaker 1: But it's similar to like Duke Ken using the shocks.

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. Fun house mirrors the best. Um. But this

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