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Speaker 1: We were talking earlier this week on the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: got to be a team. But if you build a

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be a bad tone that you're setting.

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Speaker 1: But if you're always preaching collectively, we're in this together

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Speaker 1: and in the spirit of competition. Yes, you know we

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Speaker 1: we got to be happy for each other, that's what

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Speaker 1: I think I've shared this publicly. You know, We're in

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Speaker 1: that preseason game in Denver and Ryan right puts the

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Speaker 1: and Eric Kendricks comes over to Harrison. He's like, hey man,

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Speaker 1: how about our boy. He's like that dude can kick,

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Speaker 1: that's special. You know, in other hierarchies and other teams,

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Speaker 1: you don't even care about the rookie punter, you know,

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Speaker 1: but but these guys do. The little things matter, especially

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Speaker 1: when it's a game that that requires all three phases

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Speaker 1: of the ball to be on point. Ben, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: everything that you provided to the show tonight. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see you Monday night. Ben. All right, thanks guys, school guys.

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Speaker 1: See man appreciate you.