1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Friday edition of The Clay and Buck 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Show gets kicked off right now, everybody, and we are 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: moments away from the release. We are told of the 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Mara Lago Affidavid. Who knew that that would be such 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: an exciting national news story, so we would say the 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: words Mara Lago Affidavid. And it's not about whether the 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: golf courts, golf carts, courts have been delivered on time. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: It is about a matter of urgent national security. We 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: are told Mara Lago country Club and residents of Donald Trump. 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: The affidavit could be released any moment. That's what we're told. 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: As soon as it is, we will read it over. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: It will not be very long. You will analyze it 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: for you in real time. That's something we've also got 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Biden saying that, you know, you've got to be one 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: of those good old school conservative Republicans who lets Democrats 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: win and accepts their defeat with grace. Don't be one 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: of those maga Republicans there. I think he used the 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: term semi fascism, which was a new one. I hadn't 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: actually heard that one before. You will notice Clay he 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: has dropped Ultramaga because it sounds awesome and because it 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: was widely embraced. People were like, yeah, of course, that's 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: that's amazing. I don't think semi fascist is gonna work 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: because people have difficulty even understanding what a fascist is. 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: So a semi fascist sounds like a really like h 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: like scaled down what. I don't even know exactly what that. 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: This Biden talking is never good, right Biden? Just every 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: time he talks of thumb. Biden talking generally does not 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: end well. You also have the Governor of New York 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: telling New York Republicans, many of whom listen to this 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: show of which I am won, go to Florida. You 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: aren't wanted here. That's that's how the governor of New 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: York approaches her job. Now, if you don't like all 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: the high prime high taxes and government dysfunction, moved to 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: a state that doesn't have a moron in charge. Interesting 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: that that is her approaches destructive too, because a huge 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: percentage of the Republicans pay a massive amount of the 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: tax revenue that the state of New York gets, which 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: is why Eric Adams, Mayor of New York City has 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: been taking trips to try to get high earning New 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Yorkers who bailed during COVID to return to the city 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: so they can tax those high earners, you know, Hocal's 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: favored constituencies, which include blue haired social justice activists who 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: turns out they're not super high earners generally, yes speaking, 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: and so generally speaking, so that may not be the 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: smartest move for her state. But we will bring you 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: the Mara Lago affidavit, which is really the let's just 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: say what it is, the justification for the FBI raid 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: on a former president's home, because that's what this is 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be the actual legal justification. There will be 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: heavy redactions. I've dealt with redacted documents. I've redacted documents 52 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: myself in the past. So we'll we'll get into that 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: coming up here in just a couple of moments whenever 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: they drop it. But first, there was this interview on 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: another very widely listened to show, mister Joe Rogan's program 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: involving the CEO of Facebook, the chairman I believe as well, 57 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, and let's just let you hear what he 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: has to say about the twenty twenty election and the 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: role that Facebook played in the suppression of the hunter 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Biden laptop story. The FBI, I think basically came to 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: us some folks on our team. It was like, hey, 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: just so you know, like you should be on high alert. 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: There was we thought that there was a lot of 64 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: Russian propaganda in the twenty sixteen election. We have it 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: on notice that basically there's about to be some kind 66 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: of dump that's similar to that, so just be vigilant. 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: The distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still 68 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: allowed to share it, so you could still share it, 69 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: you could still consume it. The distribution is decreased, it 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: got shared it basically, the ranking and news feed was 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: a little bit less, so fewer people saw it than 72 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: would have otherwise. So it definitely by what percentage, I 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: don't know at the top of my head, but it's 74 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: it's it's meaningful. A couple of things here. One is 75 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: that he is we already knew that they suppressed the 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: hundred Biden laptop story before, and remember they suppressed it 77 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: everyone under the false the false claim that it was 78 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: false information, that was misinformation, So they were wrong. I 79 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: believe they knew they were wrong. They didn't care. It 80 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: was to protect the Biden regime to be and Clay. 81 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: The other part of this is they were responding to 82 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: the FBI saying watch out for election misinformation. I'd be 83 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: willing to bet that the only election and misinformation the 84 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: FBI was pressuring Facebook about somehow hurt Republicans and helped Democrats. Well, 85 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: the FBI is rigged against Donald Trump, and they rigged 86 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election to get Joe Biden into office. 87 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: Let's just be straight and clear about what happened here. 88 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: They knew the Hunter Biden laptop story was coming out. 89 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: They had been in possession of the Hunter Biden laptop. 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Should have well known that it was accurate and that 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: there was no way the Russians could have manufactured disinformation 92 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: like this. Where do they kidnap Hunter Biden and make 93 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: him record crack usage and prostitute videos for years and 94 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: then put it all. I mean again, this is not 95 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: hostage videos. Okay, if you have seen any of the 96 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: stuff on the laptop, the idea that this was Russian 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: disinformation vanished almost instantaneously for almost all of the videos 98 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: and all of the evidence that is there. Okay, let's 99 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: start there. But this is direct weighing of putting their 100 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: thumb on the scales to change the outcome of an election, 101 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: because they go to Facebook and they say basically, hey, beware, 102 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: there's Russian disinformation that may be out there, knowing that 103 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: this story from the New York Post is being worked 104 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: on so that they can curtail its distribution at the 105 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: time that it was released. And you put that in 106 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: conjunction with all the other big tech companies which probably 107 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: got the same warnings from the FBI. Buck, I think 108 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: it's probably going to come out that was it the 109 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: fifty one National Security advisors who signed that letter saying, Hey, 110 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: this looks like Russian disinformation. I kind of think the 111 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: FBI may well have briefed them. Also, we know the 112 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: FAISA warrant was a lie that was used to spy 113 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump and his campaign. This Mark Zuckerberg's statement 114 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: to Joe Rogan is a smoking gun that the FBI 115 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: is out to get Donald Trump, and I think it 116 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: directly implicates the raid the affidavit that we are going 117 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: to see hopefully in short order some details will know 118 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: exact what is out there. But this proves to me 119 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt that the rig job 120 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: was in effect. Mark Zuckerberg is even admitting to it now, 121 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: and it should be a monumental story right now. So 122 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: most people are mainstream media, by the way, Buck are 123 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: not even going to talk about it. We played that 124 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: audio for you. Many people are going to ignore and 125 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: pretend it doesn't exist. If they want us to stop 126 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: objecting to election theft, I think they should stop stealing elections. 127 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: That's my basic premise. I think if they want us 128 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: to stop having discussions about lack of trust and elections, 129 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: they should stop destroying the trust that people can have 130 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: in elections and things like this. I understand there's what's 131 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: legal and there's what holds a country together too, right. 132 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean you could claim that a private which is 133 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: of course what they would say. Well, Facebook is a 134 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: private business, it's the public square. Meanwhile, cable news and 135 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: radio have all kinds of regulations, federal regulations, especially around 136 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: election issues. We can't even use certain works like we 137 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: couldn't run for political office and be on the radio. 138 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: And yet when it comes to the social media giants, 139 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: because they have a built in ideological advantage for the left, 140 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: they want no restrictions right now. And by the way, 141 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: if they do start regulating them more, they will just 142 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: try to regulate them in favor of the left so 143 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: that they do not They do not want to level 144 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: playing field. We all know that that's very obvious. But Clay, 145 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: they were willing to believe that Donald Trump. They were 146 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: willing to believe the dossier which talked about Russian prostitutes 147 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: and doing things that are golden showers. Yes, indeed, and 148 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: they said, you know, Michael Cullen was in Prague. You've 149 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: never even been to Prague. That's been verified, full of lies. 150 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: The top of the FBI was willing to believe this 151 00:08:53,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: fanciful compilation of bullcrap, which had no real worsing to 152 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: it whatsoever. It was an opo document based on rumors, 153 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: based on sources who were being paid to come up 154 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: with something juicy to say about a political candidate. I mean, 155 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: it had all the authority and honesty of going through 156 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: like the comments section of some website, you know, scraping 157 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: Reddit and saying, what are people saying about this Kennedy. 158 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,119 Speaker 1: And yet on the other hand, you have a laptop 159 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: full of emails, videos, everything of under Biden and the 160 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: same apparatus of National Security wanted to tell us that 161 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: that was the most intricate and really astonishing example of 162 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation in history. How is that unless you were 163 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: ideologically blinded, it is not possible to have made one 164 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: choice and then the other and be an intelligent person. Right, 165 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: It's just not possible. It's just hatred of Trump that 166 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: pushed the decisions. I want to see Mark Zuckerberg under 167 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: oath talking more about this FBI briefing, and I want 168 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: the FBI director to be under oath talking about the 169 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: briefing that they gave Facebook as well. And I just 170 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: want more details to be out there because buck to look, 171 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: our audience knows about this, they are aware of it. 172 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: There are tons of people out there that I still 173 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,359 Speaker 1: think are in the persuadable realm that have no idea 174 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: that the FBI was behaving in this way and naturally 175 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,119 Speaker 1: favor the FBI. And you know this even as a 176 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: CIA guy, I don't know where it's gotten into, but 177 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: we've gotten lectured recently from Republicans like Mike Pence came 178 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: out and said, don't say something bad about the FBI. 179 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: I think Dan Crenshaw other people. Look, the FBI historically 180 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: has been a completely untrustworthy entity for many parts of 181 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: American history. If you just study what j Edgar Hoover 182 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: did when he effectively turned the FBI into his own 183 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: domestic spying ring and shows who to favor and who 184 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: to disfavor, it's not crazy to think that the same 185 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: thing could be happening today. We know it's already happened 186 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: in the past. Like why are asking Why is asking 187 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: those questions a threat to democracy? I think it's embarrassing 188 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: to argue that, and it's reflective of historical lack of 189 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: knowledge to even suggest that the FBI is above reproach. 190 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: There's a reason that in so many countries around the world, 191 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: if you look at historically, particularly last really the notion 192 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: of the intelligence service is mostly a post World War 193 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: Two era. When it comes to M I five, AM, 194 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: I six, all these different groups. I mean, they've existed 195 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: in Britain longer than they have in other Western countries. 196 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: But there's a reason why if you look at I 197 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: Rock Soddam was the head of the intelligence Service before 198 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: he was the dictator. People people who run the KGB 199 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union either end up dead or basically 200 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: running things right. There's the intelligence Service can become very political, 201 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: federal police, which is reallymestic intelligence. In most places here 202 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: it's not we're not supposed to have that. Like Britain 203 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: has m I five which is domestic national security and 204 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: m I six, which is it's foreign arm. In other countries, 205 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: the Russians have the FSB, which is their domestic version, 206 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: and the SVR which is their foreign intelligence arm. The CIA. 207 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Here we have the FBI. We don't really we have 208 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: homeland security, but that's an umbrella entity for a lot 209 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: of other things. We don't have technically a full scale 210 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: domestic intelligence agency, but we actually do, and it's called 211 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: the FBI. I mean that that's whatever one's seeing, and 212 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: it's used and abused in the same ways. So I 213 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: think that people should be asking questions about that, and 214 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: also asking questions about why is it the job of 215 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: Facebook to police speech? I don't think we should concede this. 216 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: Why our Twitter and Facebook outside of the confines of 217 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: very expressly and clearly forbidden death threats, child pornography, things 218 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: that we all understand and agree need to be illegal 219 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: and policed, Okay, but outside of what is a violation 220 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: of law defamation, which is a civil issue, but still, 221 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: why are they policing speech at all? Why we conceded 222 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: that they should be saying, oh, well, this isn't these 223 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: organizations like polit effect, They're just the digital stazi man, 224 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: they shouldn't exist. This is crazy. We need to keep 225 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: talking about this and hammering this home because I think 226 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: this story and we're going to continue to wait for 227 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: the affidavit to be released. We don't know exactly when 228 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: that will come down. We'll give you the absolute moment 229 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: that it does, we'll break it down for you. But 230 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: this is a monster story. When I saw the Mark 231 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg video yesterday, Buck, I was waiting to pick up 232 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: my son at a football game, and I was sitting 233 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: in the car old man style, Dad style, and I 234 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: watched that and my jaw dropped. 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We are 283 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: waiting the affidavit that was used to justify the raid 284 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: on Mara Lago. Here is former Acting Solicitor General Nil 285 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: kat y'all predicting what to expect from this affidavit. I 286 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: think that what those proposed redactions are going to be tomorrow, 287 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: the part that's not redacted that we'll all get to see. 288 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I suspect it's going to have some damning information about 289 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It's one thing for the Department to protect 290 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: sources and methods, witnesses, grand jury information, all that kind 291 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: of stuff. That's what the redactions are. But I expect 292 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: in that affidavit to be a good discussion of all 293 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: of the attempts that the Justice Department and FBI had 294 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: to try and retrieve these documents from Moral Lago, what 295 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: they thought was there, what they were hearing was there, 296 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: and the President Trump was thumbing his nose at them. 297 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: That part, I suspect will come out, you know, maybe 298 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: as early as tomorrow, and it underscores like what Merrick 299 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Garland is doing here, and he's just following the rules, 300 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: but he's winning by following the rules. Oh he's winning 301 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: by following the rules? Is he by breaking the precedent 302 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: of what had not happened for the previous two hundred 303 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: four years. That's interesting, Clay. And then beyond this, so 304 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: just so everyone's clear, there is no allegation, not one 305 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: allegation that a single person who was not clear to 306 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: see these documents ever got access to them. That has 307 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: never happened. And in fact, the FBI said, yeah, can 308 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: you throw an extra padlock on the door where they're 309 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: holding this stuff? That sounds cool, Oh, but now it's 310 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: super urgent. We're going to break all this down for 311 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: you folks, no doubt. 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It just got released and 331 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: it is very thoroughly blacked out. It is thirty eight 332 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: pages in length. And Clay, let's let's just work through this, 333 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: you and meet together for everybody across the country in 334 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: some phases here because we are we're able to do 335 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: a quick a quick scan of it. And then they're 336 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: also at the end seems to be correspondence between Trump 337 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: looks like Trump lawyers and and the National the National 338 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: Archives on this or the government on this. So here's 339 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: what we've got. Introduction and agent background this isn't the 340 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida, 341 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: and it says affidavit in support of an application under 342 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: Rule forty one for a warrant to search and see. 343 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: The government is conducting a criminal investigation concerning the improper 344 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: removal and storage of classified information in unauthorized spaces, as 345 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: well as the unlawful concealment or removal of government records. 346 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: The investigation began as a result of a referral the 347 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: United States National Archives and Records Administration sent to the 348 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: DOJ on February ninth, twenty twenty two. This referral stated 349 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: that on January eighteenth, twenty twenty two, in accordance with 350 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: the Presidential Records Act, NARA National Archives and Records Administration, 351 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: I guess what is called NARA received from the office 352 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: of former President Trump fifteen boxes of records which had 353 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: been transported to Mara Lago. The premises is a residence 354 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: and club. And then after an initial review of the 355 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: NARA referral, the FBI opened a criminal investigation too, among 356 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: other things, determine how the documents with classification markings and 357 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: records were removed from the White House and came to 358 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: be stored at the premises Mara Lago in this case. Okay, Clay, 359 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: let's let's stop. We will go back into this, right. 360 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: But so there's the national security redaction component of this, 361 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: which I can speak to you from experience, and there's 362 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: the legal bringing an affidavit forward justifying a war and experience. 363 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: So we can handle different pieces or bring two pieces 364 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: together here onto this. But I think the biggest takeaway 365 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: for everybody is this really does seem to just be 366 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: about classification and documents and the storage thereof, and there 367 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: was an ongoing legal process about what should be returned 368 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: and what should be kept in presidential former presidential custody. Here. 369 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: What are you seeing? Yeah, so it's thirty eight pages 370 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: the affidavit, which I think is significant. It's not like 371 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: we're dealing with a three. Could be very I thought 372 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: it was going to be pretty short, but it's not. 373 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: It's pretty Yeah, thirty eight pages. I went through all 374 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: thirty eight pages rapidly, just scanning about half. I would 375 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: say maybe sixty percent of the this overall document is redacted. 376 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: So and as I was reading the unredacted aspects of this, 377 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: I think the most significant fact is much of this 378 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: has already been reported because of Department of Justice leaks 379 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: to the New York Times and the Washington Post. And 380 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: so I would say here, this is based on what 381 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: we can see. Again, there could be redacted elements here, 382 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: almost exclusively an investigation into documents that ended up at 383 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: Marlago that the federal government believes should be in possession 384 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: of the National Archives. And let me just say this 385 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: buck CNN had a story yesterday. I don't know if 386 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: you saw it, but they actually specifically referenced the Kim 387 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Jong Un letters that the National Archives was requesting, and 388 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: they said, can you please fed X these two us 389 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: this from the National Archives. You are an expert in documents, classified, 390 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: top secret, all these things. Does it feel like this 391 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: is extremely important? If the National Archives would allow Donald 392 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Trump to fed X these documents? Could you fed X documents? 393 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: That's an excellent point. And depending upon the level of 394 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: sensitivity of documents. And I dealt with law enforcement sensitive 395 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: documents too, and there's a whole which is different. You 396 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: would get in trouble if you were fed xing regularly, 397 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: like classified top secret documents of incredible importance to the government. 398 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: I sat in the cafeteria once at Langley with a 399 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: female colleague who could not stop crying because she thought 400 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: she had misplaced inside of Langley a top secret documents. Yes, 401 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: you would not. Turns out she actually found it. It 402 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: was like stuck behind a page in the office and 403 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: it was here, but she was completely She's like, did 404 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: I leave it in my car? Did I know? She 405 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: was absolutely apoplectic freaking out about it. And the notion 406 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: that you would Let's just say, here's the thing they 407 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: could classify. Classification has to do with the sensitivity of information, 408 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: but also generally it's really about how the information was acquired. 409 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: A lot of the time, so you can have because 410 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: of the acquisition of information, the actual data gathered could 411 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: be you know, what some ford and terrorists had for 412 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: lunch that morning, but how we got the information, meaning 413 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: is it does somebody have his phone tapp, did somebody 414 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: you know, break into his email or whatever? How you 415 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: get the information can be about the sensitivity of it. 416 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: But also there are disputes even within you know, if 417 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: a president's having a conversation with a head of state, 418 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: is this information that is necessarily sensitive or is this 419 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: information that the president could then decide unilaterally to say, look, 420 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: this is what we talked about, right, Yeah, if he 421 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: sits with Kim Jong n you might have somebody in 422 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: that room who says, well, I'm going to mark this 423 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: top secret because it deals with the sensitivity of you know, 424 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: red lines around nuclear weapon use. And it might have 425 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: been Trump saying if you knuk us or try to, 426 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: we're going to obliterate you. Like that's not something that's 427 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody, but you might have that marked 428 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: at a very high classification level. If the President then 429 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: walked out Clay and said this is what I said 430 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: to Kim Jong un, that's his prerogative as the commander 431 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: in chief. Right. So to your point about FedEx, if 432 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: it were super secret stuff, if it were like this 433 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: schematics for the F twenty two Raptor, which is the 434 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: most amazing in a plane platform really in the world 435 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: fighter plane, you would not FedEx that. No, you would 436 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: the National Archives even get super secret top secret government documents. Honestly, 437 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: I thought the National Archive, for here's the thing, if 438 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: this stuff was so sensive, if that's what I'm saying, 439 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: what should be in the custody of the originating agency. 440 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: So you know, if it should be with the NSA, 441 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: it should be with the CIA. Should we just give 442 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: you an example, if we had, for instance, an assassination 443 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: plan that the CIA had tried to put in place 444 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: with Solomony right when he's killed in Iran? Do we 445 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: want the National Archives to have those documents into Like, 446 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't that information about how that raid was conducted? And 447 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: so I'm just asking that question for everybody. Let me 448 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: just also hit this buck because the probable cause, I 449 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: think goes into the essence of this I'm reading from 450 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: page seven and eight. This really does appear to be 451 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: entirely a dispute between the National Archives and Donald Trump. Yes, 452 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: and the National Archives is I just want to be clear. 453 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: I googled this and this is from archives dot gov. 454 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: And as I said, the joke was always it was 455 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: internal archives, not the National Archives. But if someone got 456 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: sent to the Archives, it was like, this person is 457 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: it's like when Milton Wadams gets sent down to the 458 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: office in the basement. Yeah, it's like, you don't want 459 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: to get sent to archives. The Archives and Records Administration 460 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: is an independent federal agency that preserves and shares with 461 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: the public records that trace the story of our nation 462 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: government and the American people. So that to me leaves 463 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: two things as possibilities. You're either keeping it at the Archives. 464 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm just reading the mission statement because I never thought 465 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: of the National Archives once when I was in this EUI, Like, 466 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: this is not something we were talking about. Do you 467 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: think of it as like a super secure place, because 468 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't, absolutely not unless Nicholas Cage is dangling from 469 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: the ceiling trying to steal the Constitution. So the National 470 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: Archives is supposed to share information with the public, or 471 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: they're supposed to preserve information. But why would you have 472 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: the National Archives preserving something that is super sensitive. That 473 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me, Like, if this was 474 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: a danger to fall into enemy hands, wouldn't it be 475 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: kept with the originating agency and not with the National 476 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: Archives doesn't know the full sense. National Archives doesn't know 477 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: really what the CIA. This is my question, This is 478 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: my question for you from the get go. And when 479 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: I read that CNN story and they were like, hey, 480 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: just fed exit to us, and again I'll hit you 481 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: with the probable cause. But the CNN reported that the 482 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: National Archives told the Trump people, hey, just share the 483 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: tracking number with US. And send it via fed X. 484 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, I like, no, no, no 485 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: slide upon fed X. But if it's really that important 486 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: to national security, would the National Archives be like, hey, 487 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: just go ahead and put it in the fed xboxes. 488 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: But I'll read this probable cause document right here, page 489 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: seven and eight give you a little bit of a sense. 490 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: It's not redacted obviously when we come back, but just 491 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, I want you to think, 492 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: does the National Archives trust fed X enough that the 493 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: documents are so secure there that they can't and they're 494 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: worried about it falling into enemy hands? And there's nobody 495 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: in spy agencies elsewhere who could track a nationally like 496 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: track a FedEx package. I just just doesn't true to me, 497 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I have another question. I'll just 498 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: put this out there. We'd come back to it later. 499 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Why did Trump, if assuming he wanted these boxes or 500 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: anyone around him wanted these boxes. Why Because I do 501 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: have people that have raised with me the possibility that 502 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: he wanted custody of some documents relating to Russia collusion 503 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: on the lies therein and he wanted that and maybe 504 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: wanted his people to be able to go through it 505 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: so that when he runs again, he can actually be 506 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: the one who would have custody of documents to say 507 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: we can prove it, we know that they colluded. Anyway, 508 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: that's a I think that. I think that's a fantastic 509 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: that's a theory. It is not proven, But I do think, 510 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: why do you want these boxes? 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This 528 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: payroll tax refund is only available for a limited amount 529 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: of time. Don't miss out. Go to getrefunds dot Com. 530 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: That's get refunds dot Com. Welcome back in Clay Travis 531 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: buck Sexton show. Okay, like I said, probably sixty percent 532 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: of this affid David justifying the rate on Mara Lago 533 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: is redacted, so we can't allies or discuss that in 534 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: any kind of significant way. But under the probable cause section, 535 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: this is a little bit of detail, Buck, I'm going 536 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: to read from it. On February nine, twenty twenty two, 537 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: they say that they got fifteen boxes of this material 538 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: from Trump at Mara Lago, and it says, and I'm 539 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: reading directly from it. A preliminary review of the fifteen 540 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: boxes indicated they contained newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, photos, 541 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: miscellaneous printouts, notes, presidential correspondents, personal and post presidential records, 542 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: and quote, a lot of classified records. Of most significant 543 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: concern was the highly classified records were unfolded, intermixed with 544 00:31:53,560 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: other records, and otherwise unproperly identified. The archivist of the 545 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: United States again this is the National Archives, said that 546 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: they were upset about what they had found in those 547 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: documents and wanted to have access to other of those documents. 548 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: And then there's tons of things redacted, which presumably is 549 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: a recitation in some way of what those documents that 550 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: were classified might have contained. But again, buck based on 551 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: everything that is in this thirty eight page filing that 552 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: we can read, it appears this is entirely a dispute 553 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: between Trump and the Archives. Now it's also possible that 554 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: this was used as a mechanism by which to enter 555 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: more Lago, and they actually were searching for other things 556 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: as a part of this search. Right, we know they took, 557 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: for instance, the passports, which they weren't entitled to. Maybe 558 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: there are some other documents that they were in an 559 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: effort trying to obtain. But to me, the idea that 560 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: you would break two hundred and forty years of precedents 561 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: of not doing an FBI raid or a criminal raid 562 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 1: on the former president for this is frankly staggering to me. 563 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: There's also the problem here of the trust US line 564 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: with all of this meeting, certainly the FBI, the DOJ 565 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: are telling us all, look, the stuff that they have 566 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: is super sensitive in a real way. Trump didn't, even 567 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: though he was president and commander in chief when he 568 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: took the documents or when he set them aside, didn't 569 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: have the right to declassify them. Which that's also a 570 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: point of contention, and because I do know. I mean, 571 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: we used to talk about the CIA presidents, whether by 572 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: customer or whatever else you want to say, we call 573 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: it real time declassification, which is when a president walks 574 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: out and says, yeah, that drone strike that just happened, 575 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, we called for that at a press conference 576 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: or whatever that you know could have been marked top 577 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: secret until that moment. And then when the president comes 578 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: out and says that, no one's he's the commander in chief, 579 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: it's executive branch information. He has that prerogative. And they're 580 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: asking us to trust them that this isn't overclassified information, 581 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: meaning stuff that is marked sensitive but really isn't. I mean, 582 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: where I used to get my cheeseburger at lunch was 583 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: classified in the CIA. I mean, they just they would 584 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: overclassify all the time. Is it stuff that actually we 585 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: would read and say, oh, you really shouldn't have that 586 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 1: at Mara Lago under the circumstance. I find that very 587 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: hard to believe. And they're saying, you've got to believe 588 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: us because we can't see all the blacked out stuff 589 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: in the affidavit, and there's a lot of it. Is 590 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: what this actually pertains to? What kind of information we're 591 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: talking about here? If it's stuff about Trump's state of 592 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: mind or his conversation on a phone line with a 593 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: head of state, probably not a big deal at all. 594 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: If it's for some reason, you know, the crown jewels 595 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: of the intelligence community, that would be not so good. 596 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: They're telling us basically, that's what we're looking at here, 597 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: and I don't believe him. I just am thinking here, 598 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: it is staggering. We talk all the time about threats 599 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: to democracy, because that's the number one thing that Democrats 600 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: want to make the entire Trump regime, and in fact, 601 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: the justification for why Biden's in control. Now, how is 602 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: rating your top political opponent and the guy that you 603 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: just ran against for the first time in American history 604 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: not the largest direct threat to democracy that any of 605 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: us have seen in our lives. Buck, absolutely, degree. I 606 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: would also throw into the mix here, Clay. If this 607 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: is all true, they found the documents, they found these things, 608 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: charge them. Let's see what you got, right, Like, they're 609 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: forcing themselves into a corner here because they're making this claim. 610 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: They're going to this extent, So how can they not 611 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: charge it? Right? I mean, it's like, well, where does 612 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: this leave us. It's either they say this is so important, 613 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: so sensitive they had to do what you said, which 614 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: is very destabilizing, or it's not. So what are they 615 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: going to do? Let's talk more about this at the 616 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: top of the next hour, because I think that they 617 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: are kind of painted into a corner to your point, 618 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know how you get out of that corner, 619 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: which is why I'm so stunned Merrick Garland did this. 620 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: We'll break it down for you next pleat Travis and 621 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth.