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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. In the last hours, a

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Speaker 1: development in the search for a beautiful young mom PRIs

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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars reward has been posted in the return

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Speaker 1: or information about this beautiful young mom's disappearance. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: We first reported that Denise Reys goes missing outside an

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Speaker 1: apartment complex. She's actually caught on video, she's talking on

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Speaker 1: the phone. What alerted everyone to the fact that something

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Speaker 1: though she's only twenty six. When she failed to pick

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Speaker 1: Where is Denise Rays In the last hour a reward

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Speaker 1: The lead detective in this case, Detective Barrett, also disseminated

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Speaker 1: the information through the Mesquite Police Department to all local media.

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Speaker 1: last scene, handing out flyers, placing them on telephone poles

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Speaker 1: Listen to Dan Fuchs. When when I was first able to,

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Speaker 1: I secured a billboard company, and I put up electronic

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Speaker 1: her sister, my other daughter and I went out yesterday

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Speaker 1: and we probably put out one hundred and fifty flyers.

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Speaker 1: Talked to about nine or ten different people that are

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Speaker 1: Straight out to David Max Indicated talk show host start

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Speaker 1: at the very beginning. What do we know, Dave, We've

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Speaker 1: With me an all star panel. Ashley Wilcot, judge lawyer

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Speaker 1: anchor at Ashley Wilcott dot com. Jeff Cortez, a FBI

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Speaker 1: Com and Robin Malinski Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to Jeff Cortiz, a former FBI

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Speaker 1: So those were two extremely telling indicators for law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Listen to our friend at CBS eleven. This is Andrea Lucia.

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Speaker 1: Security footage shows Prisma ray As standing by an elevator

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be looking for signs of a struggle, any

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Speaker 1: And just like Jeff Cortize is saying, the driver's seat

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Speaker 1: old mother. He's hard of hearing. I have to scream, Okay,

428
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but yeah, I don't think that's ought to

429
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: be talking on speaker. Is that? Is that just me?

430
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: Dave Matt No, I think it's normal. And actually, Nancy,

431
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: you know, while many of us we see that and

432
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: we wonder who she talking to, what's going on? Well,

433
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: the police have already talked to the person on the

434
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: other end of that phone call. They're not telling us who, what, when,

435
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: or where, but they already talked to that individual and

436
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: then said it has nothing to do with this case. Okay,

437
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: listen to Dan Fuchs, and she did have a three

438
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: minute phone call to somebody she knows. She says she

439
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: was feeling confused, feeling very strange through this phone call,

440
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: and he asked her to ping her telephone and he

441
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: would get somebody he knows in the area because he

442
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: was out, he was gone out of count at the

443
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: prison time at that time, and he says she seemed

444
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: to be kind of confused enough to where she couldn't

445
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: even figure how to ping her telephone. Oh my stars,

446
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: did you hear that, Jeff Cortize. Did they've spoken to

447
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: the person she was talking to on the phone interview?

448
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: Then they whoever it is, they won't divulge it, but

449
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: they've spoken willingly. So that's really not helping me except

450
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: giving me a time another clue. Maybe that person knew

451
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: where she was headed. Man, m it helps me a

452
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: little bit, I guess, Jeff Cortize. Yeah. I think even

453
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: identifying people who are not facilitators in nefarious activity is

454
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: helpful to law enforcement. So being able to cross names

455
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: offul list can always be helpful and is helpful, especially

456
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: when you're dealing one of the missing person games crime

457
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace chris La Denise Rays disappears seemingly

458
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: into thin air, her stepfather telling us he is now

459
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: renting billboards. He has this beautiful daughter's face plastered on

460
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: his car. He's offering nearly three thousand dollars in reward

461
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: for information her family stopping at nothing to bring her

462
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: back home. He tells us quote, she's out there, and

463
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: I honestly feel in my heart and I pray to

464
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: God every day she will be brought back to us safely. Listen.

465
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: It's extremely hard, you know. I just try to keep

466
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: myself busy, so I don't, you know, dwell on it.

467
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: And it can sal me because I've just it's a

468
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: twenty four or seventh thing. It just keeps rotating in

469
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: my head and going through and going through and going through,

470
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: trying to figure all this out. Like Monday, I went

471
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: and walked the actual footsteps inside that apartment complex in

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00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: front of that elevator to see what she might have

473
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: seen that day, and I just I can't see. There's

474
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: only one way in and one way out. Let's go

475
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: through the main office at that place. So I'm still

476
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how how she's out of there

477
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: if she's not inside of there somewhere. To me, it

478
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: was just like a dream cloud. As you know, right

479
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: or wrong, every investigation into a homicide or missing person

480
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: starts close to home. I'm talking about your husband, your boyfriend,

481
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: your X, the guy it was your X three years

482
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: ago and you've got a t r against him, anyone

483
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: close to you and your immediate orbit. Then if that fails,

484
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: you step out. Coworkers, neighbors, associates. Then you step out,

485
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: and you keep going. End up with the pizza delivery boy,

486
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: you end up with the guy at the grocery store,

487
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: you end up with the bank teller, and it goes

488
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: on and on and on, because normally, right or wrong,

489
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Jeff Cortez, a former FBI special agent, homicides occur by

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Speaker 1: people that know you, not necessarily your husband, but maybe

491
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: your husband, your ex, your boyfriend, and then you move out,

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00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: ever so slightly. Statistically that's true. Do you agree? Oh? Absolutely,

493
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: absolutely that's the case. So in that scenario, I want

494
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: to hear first about the search. What is being done?

495
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: Are they using k nines or are they walking shoulder

496
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: to shoulder with cadets? What has been done? Dave Matt

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00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Syndicated talk shows Too Fine, Prisma, Denise Nancy. They actually

498
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: have done exactly as you described. They've gone door to door,

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: canvassing the entire apartment complex that is attached to this

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00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: parking garage where we saw her on that video at

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00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: five fifty in the evening They've canvassed the neighborhood. They've

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: talked to everybody, every family member, co workers, pasco workers,

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00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: They've talked with everybody at this point. There it's an

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00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: exhaustive search. Let's keep police going door to door in

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00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: the area where Prisma Denise was last seen. They asked

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00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: everyone to check security cameras and hopes of finding more

507
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: footage of her the day she goes missing. To Dave

508
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: matt you said everything has been done. I assume that

509
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: means looking at bodies of water if there is one nearby,

510
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: bringing in shriker dogs, cadiver dogs, scent dogs. You taught me,

511
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: shoulder to shouldier sharts. Have they done drone and air

512
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: search as well? Dave Matty. What we've been told by

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00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: the police thus far is that they've done an extensive

514
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: search around the apartment complex of that thirty five hundred

515
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: block of Roseland Avenue, which is where her vehicle was found,

516
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: what they referred to as abandoned and where that video

517
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: was taken of the CC camera that we saw. They've

518
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: gone to every apartment building, every apartment, they've knocked on

519
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: the doors. They've gone to the other buildings along that

520
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: same block, knocking on doors to talk to anybody who

521
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: has any information about the evening that Prism was last seen.

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00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of starting with a small nucleus. Take a listen

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00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: to our friend at Fox four Dallas, says Alex Boyer.

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00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Right now, Mesquite police detectives are going door to door

525
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: in this area. They're asking folks to check their surveillance video.

526
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: They're hoping that there's additional video of Price Maria's from

527
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: the night she went missing in this area. Meanwhile, her

528
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: mother and sister are devastated. They're waiting for answers. Where

529
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: is she? We have to know. Still no sign of

530
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: the devoted single mother from his ski. It's hard seeing

531
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: my nephew every morning and knowing that he might not

532
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: be able to see his mom ever again. Dallas police

533
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: officers located rays Is cheap abandoned on Rosalind Avenue in

534
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Oldies Dallas last Thursday morning. Surveillance video released by police

535
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: places ray Is at a nearby apartment complex around five

536
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: to fifty Wednesday night. Investigators have not said why they

537
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: believed she may have been there, but Rays' sister revealed

538
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: a possible link. We do know of an ex boyfriend

539
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: that lives there and her car was parked the block

540
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: from there. As Morelda Pilalda reported that information to police.

541
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: She tells me the relationship ended badly. Let's talk about

542
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: the obvious, the boyfriend. Ashley Wilcott judge, trial lawyer or

543
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: anchor Ashley Wilcott dot com. Ashley, he should expect to

544
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: be questioned. That's just SAP started operating procedure. And I

545
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: find it very probative that she was in his apartment

546
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: complex going to pick up the baby and the car

547
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: was found not too far away from the apartment complex. Ashley. Yeah,

548
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: it does not give me a good feeling at all, Nancy.

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00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: A couple of things. Number One, he should absolutely expect

550
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: to be questioned, because they should be questioning everyone that

551
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: she has contact with or known in the area, or

552
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: that knows her. Second, you know as well as I do,

553
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: the statistics part of it, most people. Things don't happen

554
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: to most people by strangers. Usually statistically, it's by someone

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00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: that we know, someone that knows us, and he would

556
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: fit that bill. So he is a potential He's certainly

557
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: a person of interest, if not a potential suspect. We

558
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: know that in the hours after Prisma, Denise disappears. Her

559
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: sister called her on her cell and it rang and

560
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: rang and rang, going to voicemail. Now the cell phone

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00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: ap to be off or the battery drained. That's significant,

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00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Jeff Cortiz, because right after we note she was gone,

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00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: and that's around seven thirty, when she didn't pick up

564
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: the baby, the phone was still working. How long Jeff,

565
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: does it take to get triangulation? Well, I mean you

566
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: could look at historical records to get an idea of

567
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: a general vicinity. If you're talking about getting a precise location. Uh,

568
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: you know that that doesn't take very long. But you

569
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: know there are court processes in place that you know,

570
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: protect people from the government being able to do that

571
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: too seamlessly. Now in a missing person case, obviously there

572
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: are some exaging circumstances that said this being the same evening,

573
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: the turnaround time on such a court order might might

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00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: be hard to put a finger on that. And I

575
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: don't really know at what point the phone stopped working,

576
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: So you know, the phone does need to be operational

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00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: for them to get that a close ping as beyond

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: just hitting off the cell tower. Another thing we know,

579
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Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. Robin wills Kin, Dave

580
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: matt Is, the person she was talking to, has not

581
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: only been identified interviewed, but they have been cleared as well.

582
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: What about the boyfriend. I don't know the boyfriend's name yet,

583
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: that has not been released. But is he considered a

584
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: person of interest Nancy at this point, I don't know

585
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: his name either, and I'm not even going to assume

586
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: the police have talked to him, because you know as

587
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: well as I do, people lawyer up right away. And

588
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: knowing that this according to her sister, the relationship ended badly,

589
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: Dan Fuchs jump in. From what my understanding was actually

590
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: is that at the time she was trying to read

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00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: kindle or relationship with an ex boyfriend that had gone

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00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: broke up very badly, and he had a new studio apartment,

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00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: and I was told that he had an apartment in

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00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: this building. So that's the only reason why I could

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00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: put her actually put her there, given the history there was.

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00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: It was New Year's Eve a couple of years ago

597
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: when they were together that kind of went kind of

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00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: a violent type thing, and then they parted ways. And

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00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: from what my nderstanding was from her that she had

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00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: called me on the telephone after her birthday and said

601
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: she was back together with this person. And because she

602
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: told me, she said, well, you might not like who

603
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm with because and I said, well, as long as

604
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: you're okay and my grandson is okay, and you're being

605
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: treated good, you're an adult, you can be who if

606
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: you want to be with. And she told me his name,

607
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: and I heard him in the background, and so that

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00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: was That's how that was moving along right there, And

609
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: that wasn't very much prior to her disappearance. I spoke

610
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: to the detective here in Mesquite yesterday twice and he

611
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: is following every lead, every little tip that he can get,

612
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: but so far has been nothing concrete enough to lead

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00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: him to her again. The tip line nine seven, two

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00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: two eight, five, six three three six, please help us

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00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: bring Denise Reyas home to her son. Nancy Grace Crime Stories,

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00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,