1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast. This 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: is a podcast all about professional wrestling. Join Battle and 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Eli as a breakdown what's going on in the world 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: of professional wrestling with special guests, including some of your 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: favorite wrestling superstars. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: You never know who's. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Gonna stop by now making their. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Way to the microphone. 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Give it up for the greatest podcast team in the world, 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Battle and Eli. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: What is up you guys? 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of the weekly wrestling podcast we 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: like to call the Battleground Podcast. 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: I am your host battle and Well, I'm very lonely. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: My co host is not here. 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: But this is the Friday episode, which means we have 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: a special guest, and of course we have the special 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: guests in studio right now with us. I gotta say, like, 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: one thing I love about doing this show is the 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: everybody that comes on the show and everybody's unique background 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: of wrestling. And today in the studio right now, we've 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: got can I just say, the man, the myth, the legend, 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: the biggest dude in the world. Right now, Jack's Dane 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: is in the building with us. 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: What's all dude, Man, I'm doing great, but I think 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I'm worthy of all that. 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: I am a man. 28 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: I don't know that I'm a mythory legend, but I 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 4: sure do appreciate that introduction. 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: Man, dude, it's I mean, looking at your stats online, 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: it's the man, the myth and the legend in our 32 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: book on the show. 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that. Man. I hope not to disappoint today, 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: not at all. So let's let's go back to the 35 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: very very beginning. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: Tell us about your background, how you got into professional wrestling, 37 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: how you got your training, all that stuff. 38 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, new story. So I played basketball in college. 39 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: Everybody freaks out when I tell him that I was 40 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: a shooting guard and a point guard, got my college degree. 41 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: He got out of college, and it's having a real 42 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: bad day in the corporate world, like everybody does when 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: you right out in. My roommate in college, for SPAN 44 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: was a guy by the name of Jake Blau, and 45 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 4: his dad was Bubba Dean Blau, who used to be 46 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: be one of the lead cameramen for WWE, and he 47 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: would come to all of our college basketball games. And 48 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: he put me inside one day and uh, he said, Hey, 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever thought about a career 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: in professional wrestling. But with your statue, with your build, 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: with how you look, how you care yourself, I think 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: you could make a career. 53 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: Out of wrestling professional Okay, I keep that in mind. 54 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: You know, I was a huge fan, like everybody crying 55 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: up Saturday night main event and then you know Raw 56 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 4: w CW the Monday night was. I mean I was 57 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: a huge fan of all that. And one day I 58 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 4: was just having a bad day, man, and spur of 59 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: the moment, it was just like, I'm gonna call Jake's 60 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 4: dad and tell him I want to wrestle. 61 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: I mean, it had been six eight months since I, 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, graduated. 63 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 4: I called him, man, and he said, okay, he said, 64 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: here's what I need. I need you to send an 65 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: email to this guy. And it was doctor Tom Pritchett. 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Oh wow. Uh. So I did a lot of. 67 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: Research on doctor Tom because even though I was a 68 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: fan growing up, I knew who doctor Tom was, but 69 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: I didn't know who Tom was, right, I mean, so 70 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: I started digging into what he's what he's doing, and 71 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: I craft his email and I send it to him 72 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: and I'm thinking to myself, well, Tom probably gets a 73 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 4: thousand emails a day. I mean, that may be a 74 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: high number at the time, but you know, an excessive 75 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: amount of emails. Maybe he'll get this, maybe he won't. 76 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: Maybe Jake's dad can help me, Maybe he can't. So 77 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: the next day, I'm training at a gym with my 78 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: buddy Darren Johnson, who's one of the best personal trainers 79 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: in the state of Tennessee before he moved to Costa Rica. 80 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: And we're in his gym, Elite. 81 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: Fitness, and my phone rings and I don't recognize the number, 82 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: but it's from Connecticut. 83 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, let me answer this. 84 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: I step outside and it's Tom, doctor Tom, and he's like, hey, Jeremy, 85 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: he said, we want to bring you up to OVW. 86 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: Can you come up this week? Well? 87 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: Sure, So I went up on spur of the moment 88 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: a couple of days. Notice, sit through a couple of 89 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: days training, just watching and then watch them film TV. 90 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: But at that point it was guys like Renee Dupre, 91 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: Orlando Jordan, Matt Morgan, hiden Reich was there, Tom co. 92 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: Dinsmore Conway. 93 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: I mean, it was just the group of guys that 94 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: really pushed up from that era into Orton had just 95 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: gone up a couple other guys. Scena had just gone up. 96 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: So here I am sitting and watching these guys train 97 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: that are one look like a million dollars, training their 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: asses off where Ripped Rogers is running them through the 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: deal and I think, man, this is pretty amazing stuff. 100 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: I mean, this is I can do this. Physically, I 101 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 4: can do this if I can get my arms around it. Mentally, 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: I know physically I'm capable of this. So after the 103 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 4: TV taping and all that, the next morning, I showed 104 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 4: up at the gym with doctor Tom and Rip Rogers 105 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: and Kevin Ferdig Mordecai yep, he came, Jackie Gaeta came, 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 4: Linda Miles came, and Doug Basham came. Those were the 107 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: guys there, and they put me through a workout. And 108 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: it's still funny. Rip still ribs me now with you 109 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: were trained before you got to us, and I'm like, no, 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 4: it's just my first day in the ring. But I 111 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: caught on pretty pretty quickly. You're a yeah learning how 112 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: to bump, fall, do all that stuff. 113 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: Man. I caught on like it was like wildfire. Man. 114 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: I just was able to absorb that. 115 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: But being a college athlete, people are constantly throwing information 116 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: at you got to absorb it and apply it. So 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: I was just doing the same thing I'd always done. 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: So then I got trained there. I spent a few 119 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 4: years there, uh, moderate success because the roster was still 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: so stacked and it takes a long long time for you. 121 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: To get good at this business. And so it. 122 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: Just wasn't floundering or flailing, but just hadn't found my 123 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: stride there yet. Right, and then my mom gets diagnosed 124 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: with small cell lung cancer and back in Chattanooga in 125 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 4: Saudi Daisy bakewell. 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: So I decide I'm not going to wrestle. I'm going 127 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: to move home. 128 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: I'm going to stop wrestling, and I'm going to help 129 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: her fight this battle. So I move home, move in 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 4: my my sister has a house on my dad's farm. Uh, 131 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 4: So I move in with my sister at the time, 132 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 4: so I'm not in the house on top of Mom 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: and all the treatment. She's getty, but you're there when 134 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm there, I'm next to literally next to um, doing 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 4: as much as I can to help. After about six months, 136 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 4: seven months, she good diagnosis. 137 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: Man, we caught this ship early. We were able to 138 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: treat it. 139 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: Radiation chemotherapy, and she's she's healthy, she's recovering right, right, 140 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: and and and and we've licked this thing. Well, then 141 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: I really wrestling. I've I've been running the mental reps 142 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 4: in my head the whole time I'm there, right, I mean, 143 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: there's a lot to be said for mental reps in 144 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: any sport you're doing. And I'm running these mental reps 145 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: in my head, and I feel like I'm progressing a 146 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: lot of things that I wasn't able to grasp being 147 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: away from it and thinking back on it. Now all 148 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's starting to make sense. Right, Yeah, 149 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: But I'm not sure i want to wrestle because now 150 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: I've got another corporate job because I had to do 151 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: something when I was back in Tennessee to help my 152 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: mom and my dad and be around those guys. And 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: I get an opportunity with this corporate corporation to move 154 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: to Texas, huge promotion. A guy my age shouldn't have 155 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: landed that position, but I did. So I moved to 156 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: Texas and I'm in Texas for about a year working 157 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: corporate as corporate sales, and I hear of a local 158 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: promotion running a little wrestling show. 159 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: In San Antonio. So I'm like, huh, well, maybe I'll 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: swing by and say hi. So I go in no production. 161 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: I mean, the roster are a lot of my friends, now, 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 4: good guys out of Texas, some really good, good, good guys. 163 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 4: It was real close to whin Lance Archer or Lance Hoyt, 164 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: who just. 165 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: Was on the show last trial, and God bless him, 166 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: he's killing it. I'm so happy and proud. 167 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: And I mean there's really one dude that's been in 168 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: my corner since I started in this business. Not the 169 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: very off topic, but man, that dude earns he's earned. 170 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: Every bit of success. 171 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: He gets every bit of it, man, from being in 172 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: a tag team and now branching into his singles and 173 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: finding success. 174 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pulling for him. 175 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: I want him to have the world because he's one 176 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: of those dudes that deserves it. 177 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: Man. 178 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: But anyway, I start wrestling at this little wrestling promotion 179 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: in San Antonio and I'm. 180 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: Wrestling there and I'm only wrestling one show. 181 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: Month, and that's all I'm going to do. That's all 182 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: I'm going to do is one. That's it. About ten 183 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 4: months in they're going to they want me to and 184 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: this is behind the scenes stuff. They want me to 185 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: get hung with a noose. Oh, a noose. We're going 186 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 4: to hang you with a noose. No, you're not going 187 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: to hang me with a noose. That's just not in 188 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: There's one place a noose belongs in my mind, and 189 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: that's in. 190 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: The history books. Yeah, we don't. 191 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: We don't need that shit. I feel like we don't 192 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: need that in wrestling. And at the time I was engaged, 193 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: may have been married then, but engaged or married to 194 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: my ex wife Lola, who lives up in Manhattan and 195 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: she is. 196 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: From Nicaragua, Cuban and black. 197 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 4: And there's no way you're gonna hang me with a 198 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 4: noose because I mean, I see the struggle for a 199 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 4: lot of people, you know, I try to empathize where 200 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: some people don't always. 201 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: Empathize with with what's going on. 202 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: So, no, you're not gonna hanging with the news that 203 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: ship's not gonna happen. And they're like, well, we're gonna 204 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: hang you with the news or you don't have a 205 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: place to wrestle. 206 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: I was like, man, are you kidding? All right? And 207 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: to this day I won't take a booking there. 208 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: And Impact works with him and wanted us down there 209 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: and you not in my and I won't There's no 210 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: way I'll work with that company. But regardless, So then 211 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 4: all right, Now I'm in San Antonio. I'm living in Austin, 212 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 4: but San Antonio is a good city there. There's seven 213 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: wrestling shows in or ye shows in San Antonio, and 214 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, man, we can do this, butter So I 215 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 4: get Funaki and Rob Conway and my buddy David Schultz, 216 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: and we started branded Outlaw Wrestling, which is not the 217 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 4: same branded Outlaw. 218 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: Wrestling that's down there now. 219 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: Some brides took the name on after we closed the 220 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: company down, but it's a different company now. 221 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: And man, we started killing it. I mean we had. 222 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: Conway, Lashly, Schnitzky, Rhino and you go down the ug 223 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 4: who's who's there? And I had relationships with all these 224 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: guys that they're really willing to come in and work 225 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: hard and make something special. So we built a We 226 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: built I think our biggest event. We had gold dust 227 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: In or dusting in and we had about twelve hundred people. 228 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 229 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: And it was a good event. I mean it was 230 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 4: all much smaller scale than what you see. It tried 231 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: and true, but still a lot of fun. And now 232 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, with all these guys we're working 233 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: with them starting to get I'm starting to find my stride. 234 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: I'm start can work anywhere I want to go work now, 235 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: and I start getting better little by little, and then 236 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the opportunity to go to Japan 237 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: pops up to Japan Pro Wrestling, and that was a 238 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: huge on or wrestling for those guys. 239 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: I had forty or fifty matches over there. 240 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: I got to go initially as Rob conn he was 241 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: Rob Conway was the NWA World Champion. I got to 242 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: go as his basically his muscle, you know, the guy 243 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: behind the behind the man, and that worked out real 244 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: well for me because that transitions us into some tag 245 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 4: stuff and then some single stuff, and then ultimately I 246 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: won the NWA World Championship from Tenson, who if you 247 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: look up, I encourage everyone that's listening to this to 248 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: look up Tenson's resume because it's it may be the 249 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: most decorated resume in. 250 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: Our wrestling business, right. 251 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at everything he's accomplished from 252 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 4: New Japan, all Japan, at WCW, I mean it's he's 253 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: creaming the crop. And a wonderful human being. So boom 254 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: our rocket ship straight basically to the NWA. 255 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: We're a championship. 256 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 4: And when I started with New Japan, not many people 257 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: know this, but I had only had thirty thirty five 258 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: forty matches really yeah, so here I am man forty 259 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: let's say, forty forty matches in wrestling in front of eight, ten, twelve, 260 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 4: fifteen thousand people. The great thing about that squad is 261 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 4: the guys that I was wrestling. 262 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: Were amazing, right, So never missed a beat. 263 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: And we're going to kind of talk about NWA and 264 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: New Japan here shortly, but I kind of want to know, 265 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: like you're known, like you've talked about, you're known as 266 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: a singles wrestle, you're known as a tag team wrestler. 267 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: Is there one that you prefer or do you just 268 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: kind of go with what the story is? 269 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: Well? 270 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: I mean it, honestly, I wouldn't be taking I wouldn't 271 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: be wrestling as a singles right now if Crimson hadn't blown. 272 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: His shoulder out. That's just I mean, he's my guy man, and. 273 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: I like them both there, but it's a different approach 274 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: for me on either or and a singles match. 275 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: It's me, right, it's it's me. 276 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: But on a tag excuse me, on a tag match, 277 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: it's us, it's we. 278 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: It's a team. 279 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 4: And I get a lot of enjoyment out of being 280 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: successful with other people. And anytime Crimson and I or 281 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: Crimson Animal and I go out and we accomplish what 282 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: we're trying to do, that's such a great feeling. 283 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: Man. 284 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 4: I get more satisfaction out of that going out by 285 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: myself and accomplishing the goal. 286 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: Right, Man, it's such an honor to have you, and 287 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: it's Jackson Dane is in the studio with us. 288 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: You talked about being with New Japan. 289 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: What would you say is the biggest difference between Japanese 290 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: pro wrestling and pro wrestling here in the States, Because 291 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: we asked Lynce this question last week as well, and 292 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: he kind of dove into the theatrics of Japanese wrestling 293 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: compared to American wrestling. 294 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's and they've both changed in my last 295 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: ten years. 296 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: Man. 297 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: The presentation has changed dramatically, right, I mean less storytelling more, 298 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: I mean more athletic, more athletic competition, right, But for me, 299 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: not so much in the ring, but outside of the ring. 300 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: Is where the New Japan VERSUS America made the biggest 301 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: impression on me is in New Japan or I mean, 302 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: I've only wrestled for New Japan over there, so that's 303 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: my experience. But I'm assuming in most of the major 304 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: companies over there, the respect for the business, the roster, 305 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: the ring, the equipment, the gear is second to none 306 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 4: over there. 307 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: The dojos that they train in. 308 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: Where over here we are so flooded with places to 309 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: wrestle and train that I think some of the I 310 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: think some of the honor of becoming a pro wrestler 311 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: gets lost over here where it doesn't over there. If 312 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: you become a pro wrestler at a high level in Japan, 313 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: you've earned that. And I'm not saying that you don't 314 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: earn that over here. 315 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: It's just approached a little differently. 316 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: And they still like the dojo stuff that they do, 317 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: the pre match stuff, pre event stuff that they do. 318 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: I mean they're still doing more ups and working out 319 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: and they do all that stuff together, and then when 320 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: you're there you're expected to participate. 321 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: And right, it's like a family atmosphere. 322 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and and so if for me, if anything, it's 323 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: not so much in the room. It's everything else associated 324 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: right the business. 325 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: Now, would you go back to wrestle in Japan if 326 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: they called and asked you to come back over. 327 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: There yesterday yesterday? Yeah? Absolutely? 328 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: And and I still think, I mean to your point earlier 329 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: when you when you brought up myself in Crimson is 330 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: I think there's a market for us over there, especially 331 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: with Joe. I mean, I mean animal there there was 332 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: you know, those guys are super super famous over there, 333 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: and and they like big strong dudes man, and that's 334 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: what we are. I mean, so hopefully at some point 335 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: we'll get an opportunity to do that. I mean, I 336 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: would I would like for Crimson to experience that at 337 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 4: the highest level over there. 338 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Because it's it's good. 339 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: And then for me now even it would be a 340 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: much different experience because you can imagine being thirty forty 341 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 4: matches in wrestling at the best wrestling company, and I mean, 342 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: bar none, the best wrestling company. 343 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: In the world is New Japan when you talk about wrestling. 344 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I couldn't How are you worried this? 345 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 4: I couldn't enjoy the experience because there was so much 346 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: pressure on me to perform. 347 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: But I wasn't to the point where performing. 348 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: Is second nature to me, right, So now I could 349 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 4: go out do my job and enjoy the moment to. 350 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: Experience and enjoy it. Whereas prior you go. 351 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: Out, you do your job and let's don't shit the 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 4: bad We got got to get this done, so I 353 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: didn't get opportunities to really enjoy that experience as much 354 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: as I would. 355 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: Now, Well, we're going to put it out there in 356 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: the universe that the workings go hit up Japan and 357 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: have a couple of matches out there. 358 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a bad thing, man, I think. 359 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: I think it would be awesome to just watch that, 360 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: like you said, because they're big into big news, because 361 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: that was what we had animal on the show and 362 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: he talked about that. Kevin Ashes also talked about it, 363 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: like they are just into the big dudes that are 364 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: out there to wrestle. And you know, you had a 365 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: story career in NWA and we talked about that winning 366 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: Let's see, let's the world tag team belts, the national 367 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: and North American titles, which you unified the World heavyweight 368 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: title as well as numerous regional titles. How did you 369 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: get involved with NWA, oh. 370 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: Man they just booked me the Houston. 371 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: The NWA Houston at the time, just booked me in Texas, 372 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: and then when I walked in the door, they kind 373 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 4: of attached their wagon to me. 374 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: And from the start for my. 375 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: First day in there, they they told me that they 376 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: thought I might, I might at some point could earn 377 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: a world title with them, keep working hard, and that's 378 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 4: exactly what happened. And then I had my promotion I 379 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: say mine, but our promotion over in San Antonio. They 380 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: wanted to brand with us on NWA, so we agreed 381 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: to do that as part of the deal of working 382 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: for the NWA. 383 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: And then it just took off and exploded. Man. Like 384 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: they say, the rest is history. Well, yeah, and it's. 385 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: It's funny if you do the I think I've I've 386 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: looked this up because I was curious, but I believe 387 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: I'm the only Grand Slam, NWA champion, North American National. 388 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: Tag and World tipe. 389 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna have to get our interns on that too. Yeah, man, 390 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: send that out there, so we're gonna have to do that. 391 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: Now. 392 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: One thing that you did do, and this is there's 393 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: so much history behind it. What did it mean to 394 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: carry the ten pounds of gold. And is that arguably 395 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: the highest highlight of your career. 396 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: Oh? 397 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's the highlight of your career because it puts 398 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: you into a fraternity of guys that they can never 399 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: take away. 400 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: From you, right, because there's so much history behind that pan. Yeah. Man. 401 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: And for me, when I was the world champ, my 402 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: only goal, my only goal is world champ, was to 403 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: carry that title, defend that title in a way that 404 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: would make the guys that carried it before me and 405 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 4: the guys that carried it after me proud. 406 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: Of the champion that I was. 407 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: How I treat people, how I treat the business, how 408 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: I treat the former champs, how I'll treat the future champs. 409 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be respected. 410 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't and this is going to sound maybe contried 411 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: or what I have you, I don't care. I don't 412 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 4: care one bit when my career is done, how I'm 413 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: viewed inside the ring, inside the ring, I don't care. 414 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: You can critique me, you can praise me. I've got 415 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: four or five guys that really helped me get better. 416 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: I care about their opinion. I don't give a shit 417 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 4: about anybody else's opinion. All I care about. When my 418 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 4: career is done, is oh, man, the business will miss 419 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: him because of the value he brought to any company 420 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: he worked for, the way he treated people, the way 421 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 4: he treated the fans, the way he treated his fellow wrestlers. 422 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 4: That's all I care about, man. Just I mean, we 423 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: get so caught up on we get so caught up 424 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 4: and oh, he was the greatest wrestler of all time, 425 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: right And that's where a guy. It happens all the time. 426 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 4: Somebody dies and then we celebrate, and they never, very 427 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 4: rarely do they say, oh, man, he could give a 428 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: hell of a hip toss. Right now, they say, man, 429 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: he's a great guy. Gonna miss him. He contributed to 430 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: our business. That's all I care about, man. I mean, 431 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: there's guys out there that have built an entire career 432 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: over critiquing matches, that have never stepped in a ring. 433 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: I don't give a shit what they say. I could 434 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: care less what those people say. 435 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: About me as a wrestler. I care if Al Snow's happy. 436 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: I care if Rob Conway's happy. I care if the 437 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: New Japan guys were happy when I was over there. 438 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: I don't care about It's just not in my DNA 439 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: to give a shit about what somebody who's never taken 440 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: a bump says about. 441 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: How I do my job the internet trolls, I don't care. 442 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: You can praise me, you can shit on me. I 443 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: don't care. But one thing you will never be able 444 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: to say is. 445 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: That guy didn't have ethics, morals, integrity and character. 446 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: Now, after listening to you talk about this, do I 447 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: have to go to church on Sunday? Because you literally 448 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: just took me to church right now? Like I mean, 449 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: if you look, I'm getting the hair on my arm 450 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: is standing up, goosebumpch just here, and you talk about that, Dan. 451 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 4: I mean, and that's just that's how I try to 452 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 4: live life. I mean, not to plug my own shirt, but. 453 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: Go ahead and plug it. Love better, livet kinder, work harder. 454 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: There it is, man. 455 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: Literally, if you just look and nobody can see this 456 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 3: right now, but the hair on my arms stand up 457 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: after just hearing that. 458 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's just we get so caught up in 459 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 4: the shit in this world. That doesn't matter. 460 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you've spent your 461 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: entire career. 462 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: Whether it be wrestling or work or a corporate job 463 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 4: or whatever you do to provide for your people. We 464 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 4: get all get so caught up in that that we 465 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: forget our people right, our friends becoming on the back burner, 466 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: our parents get pushed aside. Had a conversation this morning 467 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: with a guy that I respect a lot. He's his 468 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: father passed away about six months ago, and he told 469 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: me this morning we had this conversation. 470 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: He said, I should have spent more time with my dad. 471 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: I should have talked to my dad more. 472 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: But I was so caught up in being successful that 473 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: that slides to the back burner. And that's all of us, 474 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: that's human nature. But we've got to start reversing that thinking. 475 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: And for me, I personally. 476 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: Have to start better with my friends, better with my colleagues, 477 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 4: better with my partner at home, because all that can 478 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 4: be gone in an instant, and when it's does, then 479 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: you're trying to figure out why you're doing all this right. 480 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: And I'll being funny story I went through. Not a 481 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: funny story. But I still have a step son and 482 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm not with his mother anymore, but he's still mine. 483 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 4: I treat him like he's mine, checking him every day, 484 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 4: see him three times a week, even when it's hard 485 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: because he needs to know that I'm in his corner. 486 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: Right. 487 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: We got to start treating people better, man, because that's why, 488 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 4: that's that's why we're here. 489 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: We get so caught up in the trivial shit like 490 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: the internet trolls. 491 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I see some of my colleagues go back 492 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: and forth, back and forth, back. 493 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: And it's that's all the trolls want. It's just that 494 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: they just want interaction. They just want the interaction. Man. 495 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: Don't give that ship to them. Read what they say 496 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: about you, think about who it's coming from, and keep scrolling. 497 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It doesn't pay your bills. It doesn't 498 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: mean that that so and so is going to book you. 499 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: So and so is not going to book you because. 500 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: Some internet troll. 501 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: And if anything, it will absolutely destroy your reputation if 502 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: you get into the wrong kind of battle with someone 503 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: and you say the wrong things, and once you've typed 504 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: them out, man, you can't untype them now. So you 505 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 4: have to be real careful man. And that's why I 506 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: just I just scroll past that shit. Say all you want. 507 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: I don't care. It doesn't matter. 508 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: Jack to Dane is spitting truth right now on the show. 509 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 3: Something I want to know though, because we're gonna we're 510 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: still on the NWA topic. Would you like to challenge 511 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: Nick Aldis for the title if the opportunity presented itself. 512 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 513 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 4: Man, that's a great question, but I think the I 514 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: think the better way to word that is, would Nick 515 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: Aldas have the guts to challenge me? He's carrying my title. 516 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: I never really lost it. Rob Conley hit me with 517 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: the belt, Tim Storm fell on top of me. I mean, 518 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: you tell me, does all this want to step in 519 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: the ring with this? 520 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking at you right now. 521 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 4: I don't bounce his ass straight out of the ring 522 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 4: man and hold the title up high. I mean, it 523 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: is what it is is. I don't even really like 524 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: to get on that subject because all just knows where 525 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 4: I'm at. My phone can ring my phone A ring 526 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 4: it rang. They wanted me to wrestle him in China, 527 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: and I just have my shoulder rebelt. That's when my 528 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: phone rang is when I was supposed to They wanted 529 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: me to wrestle in Wow. 530 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: So so we're gonna throw this out here right on 531 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 3: the show. Hey, nick Aldis, if you're listening, Oh he's listening. 532 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: You know where to reach Jackson's listening. 533 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 4: I have a ton of respect for Nick. He's the 534 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: if there's ever been a perfect NWA World tampion. Man, 535 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 4: I think right now for where the NWA is, it's him. 536 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: But I promise you, promise you, he does not want 537 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: in there with me. 538 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: Man. I just it's just one of those things. 539 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna put this out in the universe. 540 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: We want to see this match on Power on Tuesday nights. 541 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: I mean, if only you can see Jackson's face right 542 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: now as we're trying. 543 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: To discuss this my fault. I mean, I'm not one 544 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 4: to back down from anything. My focus is to get 545 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: Crimson healthy and win those n WA world titles. 546 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: That's world tag titles. But along the way, if if. 547 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: Powers to be want us to lock horns, I got 548 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: some gear that don't say workings. I can step in 549 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 4: there as a singles. I mean, I don't have to 550 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: wear the spikes. I can put the hat on and 551 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: the sleeveless T shirt and go back to the country 552 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: boy that does only knows how to what people's ass 553 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: I promise you he doesn't want in there with that. 554 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: This This is this is gold right now, and it's 555 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: if we want this to happen. And that's now I 556 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: kind of want to ask you, is what is your 557 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: thoughts on the resurgence of nw A and of course 558 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 3: the TV power oh man, and just hearing you talk 559 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 3: about you and possibly wanted to go at Nick Aldis 560 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: and getting Crimson healthy to go after those tag team titles. 561 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: Already know what you go say about this? 562 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, man, I mean it's a no brainer for 563 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: me to support anything that the nw A is doing 564 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 4: as a member of that fraternity, fraternity that I spoke 565 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: about earlier. Man, You just you want to see companies 566 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 4: that you were a part of succeed. And I think 567 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 4: that these guys have captured what they say the freight 568 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: lightning in a bottle. I mean, they're doing a great 569 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 4: thing right now with a great setup and what they're 570 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: really doing that I enjoy where I think I would 571 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 4: succeed and Crimson and I will succeed there if we'll 572 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 4: get the opportunity. Is they're letting fans see their characters. 573 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 4: They're they're wrestlers, They're letting fans see They're letting guys talk, 574 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: They're letting guys interact with each other. You don't get 575 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 4: a lot of that anywhere else, and it's very understandable. 576 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: It's very simplified, and I don't mean that in a 577 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: bad way. They stick a microphone in front of two 578 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 4: guys and let them talk. 579 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: To each other. 580 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: A lot can be done with that, and that's what 581 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: they've gone back to doing. That's what I grew up loving, 582 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: watching what we call a studio show, and then in 583 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: the studio show. 584 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: They give you just enough to make you want to go. 585 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: Watch it down the street Bruce in Town that week. 586 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: Right now, NWA is doing just a little bit different 587 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: than that, but that whole format, the way they've got 588 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of what they're doing, And where 589 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: it really makes me happy is for some of the 590 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 4: guys like myself or Conway or Kajima and Tinsen that 591 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: we're in that era of champions on ownership and then 592 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: you've got the Adam Pearce and Colt and brent Albright 593 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: and then when you go back further than that, then 594 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: you're getting into the TNA stuff. But so for those 595 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: two eras of champions let's let's call it the Pierce 596 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: era in the Conway era, and I'll fall into the 597 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 4: Conway Air right right, you when you com for those 598 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 4: two eras to have kept the NWA fairly relevant, right, 599 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: not like it is now and not like it was, 600 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: but we kept it. 601 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Relevant with what we had to work with. Right. 602 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: By doing that and now seeing it research, it gives 603 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: for me and I'm assuming the other guys I don't 604 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: want to speak for, but it gives me great pride 605 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: to see how well that it's doing and feel like 606 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 4: that I facilitated part of that by four hundred and 607 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: twenty days of carrying that thing everywhere I went. It 608 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: was just a great honor. And now what you're going 609 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: to see end up happening, man, is as NWA continues 610 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: to grow, I mean, and people start researching the history, 611 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: guys like myself, brent Albright. I don't really put Colt 612 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: and Adam in this category because they've done extremely well, 613 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: but Kajima tends in the American fan base may not 614 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: know real well. As they start researching the history. Now 615 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: guys like us will fall into that research. So that's great. 616 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: But for me and. 617 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: I love the idea that it's succeeding so well for 618 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: Adam Pierce because the two guys that I've really. 619 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: Not modeled my career after. That's because we're so different. 620 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: But the way Adam Pierce carries himself as a human 621 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: being as an inspiration and almost a role model for 622 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: me because I see every day he gets up, he 623 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 4: works hard, he loves his family, he doesn't mess with 624 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: all the internet trolls. 625 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: He puts his head down. 626 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: And the bad thing about it is the world never 627 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: really got to see how capable and amazing of a 628 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: wrestler he is, right right, because it just wasn't visible 629 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: during his era of NWA Champion, World Champ and then 630 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: the era after that, obviously it wasn't very visible either. 631 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: So as those guys start researching that, then I mean, 632 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 4: so I want the NWA. I mean I want him 633 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 4: to rocket ship to the to the front of the pack, 634 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 4: because that's the company that I've had the most history 635 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 4: with and want to see succeed. 636 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: Right, And it's we're in my co host Eli, we're 637 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: huge fans of Tuesday Night Power, Like, well. 638 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: We're going back and forth. Hey do you watch it? 639 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: I was like, I try to get home right as 640 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: soon as it starts. But the good thing about it 641 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: is is it's available on YouTube. You could watch it whenever, 642 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: you don't have to, like to have a DVR and 643 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: sit down, you can kind of pause it, come back 644 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: to it. And that's the one thing I love about that. 645 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: And of course the studio wrestling aspect brings you back 646 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: to your childhood. 647 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 4: And I think Dave legana who's very involved in mister Corgan, 648 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 4: I think they understand. They're forward thinking enough that they 649 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: understand that not the days of TV wrestling are over 650 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 4: because obviously ANX, I mean there's. 651 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: A shown every night right right, pretty much. 652 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: But there's always now the way that technology is, the 653 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: way society is going is as long as you've got 654 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: your phone, you you can watch r n W A 655 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 4: power right, you can watch it. So I think they 656 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: they've really done a good job of seeing where I 657 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: mean you, I'm kind of shooting from the hip here, 658 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: but I could see in ten years that there not 659 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 4: be network television wrestling. It's it's all you. You choose 660 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: and click which company you want to buy from, right, 661 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: just just like they do Hulu Epics, I mean all 662 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: the Netflix alone pay for a subscription because I mean 663 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: even because what's happening is even my father, who's you know, 664 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: a seven year old country guy. It's pretty savvy. He 665 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: just canceled his cable, totally got internet. Well he's had internet, 666 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: he kept his Internet, and now everything that he wants 667 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 4: to watch he just points and clicks. 668 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 2: Right, there's no more scrolling channels for him and tell 669 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: you what I want to watch. Boom there it is. 670 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think and in the next ten years 671 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 4: I could see the shift into completely that. 672 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what it seems to be doing. 673 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: It's like everybody's cutting cable and just getting Internet and 674 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: streaming stuff. But you know, before we started recording, we 675 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: kind of talked about Impact and I wanted to kind 676 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: of jump into this if you want to talk about it. 677 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: So you were involved with Impact back in twenty seventeen, 678 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: give or take. That was right around the time that 679 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: they were kind of having a major turnaround and you 680 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: had kind of a short run. What would you work 681 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: with them again if the door was open? What kind 682 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: of happened with that show? 683 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely it, Crimson our own fantastic terms of Impact, I mean, 684 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: and management there. Scott de Moore does a great job. 685 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 4: And I don't know, they had a hell of a 686 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 4: showing last night. 687 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. If you watched it yet or not. 688 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 3: But the fact Sammy Callahan went in spoiler alert if 689 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: anybody hasn't watched it yet, I. 690 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: Mean, I'm telling you, man, they had home run last night. 691 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: For me. 692 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe not for all the fans. Some internet 693 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: trolls gonna say they shit the bed. 694 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: Who cares everybody for awesome behind the keyboard. 695 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 4: What I watched, man, last night. I was real happy 696 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: for those guys. I like seeing them succeed. It's obviously 697 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: another place that Crimson and I could end up at 698 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 4: any time. We've wrestled for him since we've not been 699 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: under contract with them, We've wrestled for him eight or 700 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 4: ten times, just depending on where they're at geographically. 701 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: So I mean that door is open. 702 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's no bad intentions or ill wills there. 703 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 4: I mean, we've we've worked pretty well with those guys, 704 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 4: and I'm glad to see them them doing well. And 705 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: now even with Ohio Valley Wrestling is back to being 706 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: their feeder system basically, and and Anthony or Crimson and 707 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 4: I are up there quite a bit with Al. 708 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: So, I mean it could be a natural fit at 709 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: the right time. 710 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: Right we had Al on the show about a couple 711 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and we talked about how he's doing 712 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 3: at Ohio where he's making it like a trade school 713 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: where there's this that you can learn, there's this that 714 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: you can learn, and he was at the time he 715 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: was going through I guess all the paperwork to get accredited, 716 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: and they certainly. 717 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 4: They're really close to wrapping all that up man, And 718 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 4: you're right, you can learn to be a commentator, a cameraman, 719 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 4: a manager. I've seen some of the curriculum because I'm 720 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 4: up there so often. They're teaching the language of wrestling, 721 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 4: they're teaching the history of wrestling. I mean, it's really 722 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: a neat setup on what he's got going on up there, 723 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 4: and then what he's really where once he turns the 724 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 4: corner with his group of guys, where he's really doing 725 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: something different than what any of the other I want 726 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 4: to say, feeder schools or training schools or wrestling mid 727 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 4: level wrestling companies are doing. Is he's teaching these these 728 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 4: kids me included to work live TV. 729 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: Russell Live TV. 730 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: I mean, we're live on Tuesday nights now and it's 731 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: it's it's not live to tape, it's live. You you 732 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 4: got to hit your time marks. Every there's no retakes, 733 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: there's no edits. What you go out there and put 734 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 4: out there is what people are going to see. So 735 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 4: he's trying, and he's not trying. He's doing his best 736 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 4: to prepare these guys for live TV. It's really, man, 737 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 4: he's really making some major progress. I couldn't be more 738 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 4: over the moon to be a part of Al's team. 739 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 4: He helps me every day. He makes me a better wrestler, 740 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 4: he makes me a better person. I really am glad 741 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: that that Crimson and I make that trip up and 742 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: work with him. 743 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: Man, It's it's such an honor to have you in 744 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: the studio. 745 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep saying that in my mic fanger 746 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: a little bit having you in the studio. But I 747 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 3: do want to talk about this something that is like 748 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 3: blowing up all of a sudden in this region. Tried 749 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 3: and True is like literally taking over everything like NonStop, 750 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 3: Like every event has been phenomenal. So how did I 751 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 3: guess you get involved with Tried and True? And what 752 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: does it mean to you to see it grow into 753 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: probably one of the best regional promotions in this region 754 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: in the US. 755 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 4: It's just the attention to detail and the passion that 756 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: Anthony Mayweather runs that company with. That's the that's the 757 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: key to it all is he makes everybody on his 758 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 4: team believe in the product. A great leader, he's a 759 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 4: great friend. And that's why Tried and True is successful 760 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 4: because he is on it's his job. It's what he 761 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 4: does every day is Tried and True, and that's why 762 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: it's successful. Couldn't ask for a better partner, couldn't ask 763 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 4: for a better friend. And I'm glad that I'm part 764 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 4: of what Tried and True is doing. 765 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: I mean, it's every show we've been to NonStop is 766 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 3: like probably the best product we've seen well. 767 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 4: And I mean from everything from starting to finish, from 768 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 4: from your travel, the talent's travel, to the talent's meals, 769 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 4: to the hotels, to the production to I mean just 770 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 4: all of it. And then the wrestling is the cherry 771 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 4: on top of the ice cream, right, I mean, we 772 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 4: get to go out. And what's so great about Tried 773 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 4: and True, man is is the community. Clerkesvill is a 774 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: It's the smallest, it's the biggest small town I think 775 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 4: in America. Maybe for sure. 776 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 2: It was named the best place to live in America. 777 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: Maybe a couple, their economies boom and everything's great up there. 778 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: Right now they're battling some storms that just put several 779 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 4: thousand people out of power. But but regardless, man, he 780 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 4: does such a great job of interacting and intertwining with 781 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 4: that community that that he's built a brand there with 782 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 4: his team, and his team believes in him, and his school, 783 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: his students believe in him. He's got great he's got 784 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 4: great people around him. And they say the one of the 785 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 4: things about a great leader or people that are successful, 786 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 4: they surround themselves with good people. And he's done that, man. 787 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got some. He's got a local attorney 788 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 4: in town there, Eric Lahman, that's really fundamental in some 789 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: of his successes. I mean, you can just go down 790 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 4: the list of all of the community stuff that he does. 791 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: And a part of he's you know, he's. 792 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 4: The NWR, the military wellness program at the army base there. 793 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 4: He's involved with that. We've ran in it. We ran 794 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 4: an event there last year with Impact. We're gonna do 795 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 4: that again. I'm not sure it will be with Impact. 796 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: It very well could be. I just don't know the 797 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 4: details on that yet, but we're going to have an 798 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 4: event there again and as soon as as soon as 799 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 4: we lock down a new venue, I think we'll be 800 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 4: back to Yeah. I mean we're still doing the showcase, 801 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 4: the student showcase at the Single Event Center. 802 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 3: And that's that was kind of the next thing we're 803 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 3: going to lead into. So so this works out perfectly, 804 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 3: like we're on the same page right now. 805 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 4: It's a good place to be now. So the show 806 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 4: or the event for his student it's coming up and 807 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: it's at the Single Event Center. And what that is 808 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 4: is six or eight times a year we run an 809 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 4: event where the kids from his academy can go out 810 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: and show how much progress they've made. And I'm telling 811 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 4: you it's what's great about that event is is that 812 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 4: the the caliber of wrestling that you get at that event. 813 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 4: I would put it up against any any other local promotion. 814 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 4: I mean it's just a production, the talent, the way 815 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 4: the kids work their ass off on that event, and 816 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: then you have guys intertwined there myself, Crimson Bram, Jeremiah Plunkett, 817 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 4: and like I said, that next event is Friday, November 818 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 4: twenty second at the Single Event Center. So I think, 819 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 4: you know, it's a great place to dip your toe 820 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 4: into tried and true if you've never been to a 821 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 4: tried and true event. 822 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: And trust me, you want to be at a tried 823 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: and true event. 824 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we've been to the ones in Clarks, we were 825 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 3: to the ones in Gallatin, and I mean the fact 826 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 3: that I live in Gallaton and I drive you know, 827 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: the over an hour two the Clarks will show We'll 828 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 3: show you that it is worth the drive and walking 829 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: them all to get into the event center because you 830 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: get there late for parking. 831 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. I mean, and you know 832 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: it's funny. A lot of independent promotions. 833 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 4: You'll go somewhere and wrestle, and they'll put out on 834 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 4: social media, oh sold out, sold to some bitch out 835 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 4: some other people, and I'm thinking. 836 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 2: Man, I just wrestled there. I'm not sure there. 837 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 4: Was four hundred people, But all right, it is what 838 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: it is. I don't blame you, whatever you need to do. 839 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 4: But when they tell you that there were twelve hundred 840 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 4: people and the Wilma Rudolph and you see the pictures, 841 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: you know there were twelve hundred people here. 842 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: Right, It's like when you saw we saw the videos 843 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 3: and we were sitting there watching it at saved tonight 844 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 3: when when Steve and Brand went outside and that arena 845 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 3: just went nuts and everybody poled out, and I was like, 846 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna sit in my seat and I'm just 847 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 3: gonna let everybody run and then we'll watch it. You 848 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 3: know what happened outside on social media? 849 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: But right, yeah, I mean it's a packed house there, 850 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 2: it's not it's an event. Yeah, there's there's two theories 851 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 2: of thought. 852 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 4: On that in my mind is sometimes you go wrestle 853 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 4: on the on the show, right, and then sometimes you're 854 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 4: lucky enough to go wrestling an event. And the tried 855 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 4: and true, the production, the big what do we the 856 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 4: Titan Trons even though it's not a Titan Trons, it's 857 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 4: two big screens that look. 858 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: Like Titan Trons on the wall. 859 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 4: Just the level of production and entertainment and wrestling and 860 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 4: the environment and the fans are always super engaged in 861 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 4: the cities and behind it. 862 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: It's my favorite place. It's literally my favorite place to wrestle. 863 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 3: It's and it's like I said, it's an amazing from 864 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 3: start to finish, from the experience of meeting the wrestlers 865 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 3: to watching the show, and then the fact that you. 866 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: Could bring your kids and you don't have to worry. 867 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: About, you know, certain things happening and you're like, my 868 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 3: kids shouldn't see that kind of thing, right right. 869 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: It's a great family oriented, very family friendly. 870 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: We try to make sure there's minimal to no foul anguish, 871 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 4: nothing overtly sexual. 872 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that's just just what we need 873 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: right now most definitely. So where can people keep up 874 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 2: with you online? Oh? Man? 875 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 4: I've got two Instagram pages, Jack's Underscore Dane and then 876 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 4: Jack's Underscore Dane Underscore Info Twitter is at the Jacks 877 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 4: Dane and then that's the two places to really chase 878 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: me down at. And then my email address Jacks Dane 879 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 4: Info gmail dot com. 880 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 2: And if somebody wants to get some merch, I've actually 881 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 2: is stay tuned. 882 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 4: I worked out a deal with Coler and Elbow last 883 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 4: night nice that they're going to be producing all of 884 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 4: my stuff. 885 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 2: Now. I've got three shirts. I've got the Godzilla Jacks 886 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 2: Dane shirt. 887 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 4: I've got the Country af shirt that's about to drop. 888 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: And that's my favorite one. 889 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 4: And then I've got the new Love Butter Lift Kinder, 890 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 4: Work Harder Team Jack shirt will drop. 891 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 2: We'll probably have that up and. 892 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 4: Running next week and you'll just be able to order 893 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 4: direct from Colin elbow Off. 894 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 2: My there it is Jack's Dane dropping knowledge on us today. 895 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 3: Don't have to go to church on Sunday now, Man, 896 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 3: It's such an honor to have you in the studio 897 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: with us. 898 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it. 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