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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 1: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: We have this Trump trial, and I'll start with this.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I saw a friend of mine here in Florida

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Speaker 2: on the street and he was walking a chow chow,

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Speaker 2: which I gotta tell you, I had realized this. I

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Speaker 2: knew what a chow chow was. I had never actually

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Speaker 2: met one in person before. They're very, very particular looking, dog,

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Speaker 2: very sweet. But I was stopped and had a chat

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Speaker 2: and he said, how do you think it's going? And

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Speaker 2: I get this question all the time from friends they

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Speaker 2: see me, and you know a lot of times they're like,

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Speaker 2: I know you don't want to talk business, but I

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Speaker 2: got to ask you how it's going for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: And I always said, and first of all, I'm always

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Speaker 2: down to talk business because business is politics and politics.

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Speaker 3: Is life, and this is what we discussed.

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Speaker 2: But he asked about it, and he said, and I said, rather,

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Speaker 2: it's looking so good that I don't trust it. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's where I am from now until the

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Speaker 2: election day, meaning until we can have that beautiful moment

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Speaker 2: of celebration when it feels like things have been set

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Speaker 2: right and there's an end to this bided nightmare. It's

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Speaker 2: just full steam ahead. Have to keep the pedal to

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Speaker 2: the metal, have to do everything possible to make sure

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Speaker 2: we are putting forward the best possible case to the

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Speaker 2: American people for why it should be a yes red

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Speaker 2: wave this fall. I know that's not a term that

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Speaker 2: anyone wants to hear after twenty twenty two, or rather,

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Speaker 2: no one's using it after twenty twenty two. But a

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Speaker 2: red wave would be phenomenal, and it is certainly warranted,

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Speaker 2: and I think that there's increasingly possibility that will have

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Speaker 2: a substantial advantage in the Senate. Not sixty votes, but

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Speaker 2: you know, three, maybe something like that.

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Speaker 4: Four.

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Speaker 2: And then also we will be able to get a

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Speaker 2: win of the House. Okay, but before I get ahead

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Speaker 2: of myself, is what I said. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: get ahead of myself. I'm trying not to. I don't

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Speaker 2: trust it. But here's why I'm already in this frame

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Speaker 2: of mind with what's going on and the trajectory of

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Speaker 2: the country, this moment in the history of the United States,

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Speaker 2: this is crazy stuff that's going on in New York

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Speaker 2: City with the Trump trial, the fact that we're reporting

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Speaker 2: on the leading presidential candidate, who is ahead of all

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Speaker 2: the polls, showing up to a criminal trial in the

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Speaker 2: city of New York on the.

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Speaker 5: Flimsiest pretext I have ever heard.

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Speaker 2: Of in my life, with the most obvious prosecutorial and

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Speaker 2: judicial abuse I've ever seen in any trial I can

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Speaker 2: think of, certainly based around something so absurd in the

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Speaker 2: first place. The fact that this is blowing up in

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Speaker 2: the faces of the Democrats so far, based on everything

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Speaker 2: we can see, is the ultimate poetic justice. Now we're

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Speaker 2: not there yet, and I know there's still a verdict

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Speaker 2: to come. The verdict is probably a few weeks out now,

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Speaker 2: but people are waking up to this. I do think

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Speaker 2: there's a broader awakening happening right now in America because

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Speaker 2: we're not going to get everybody. You know, there's a

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Speaker 3: Brainwashed.

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Speaker 2: You know, brainwashed actually first appeared in the term appeared

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Speaker 3: I had to do with what was going on.

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Speaker 2: In North Korea and with the communists but I do

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Speaker 2: think there have been people that are effectively brainwashed on

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Speaker 2: the left and we can't actually do anything to change

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Speaker 2: and we've heard some big names out there that have

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Speaker 2: know if that's indicative of broader numbers really, but we've

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Speaker 2: heard some big names for anyone who is persuadable. Biden's

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Speaker 2: stabbing Israel in the back, his absurdly weak explanations for

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Speaker 2: his faltering economy and stewardship thereof the wide open border,

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Speaker 2: Post has it today. She is by this absolute barbarian

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Speaker 2: And you know, I see this and I think to myself,

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Speaker 2: horrible assault and rape in New York City. We're going

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Speaker 2: going to find out that Democrats, judges, prosecutors didn't want

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Speaker 2: to punish him. This is a prediction. I could be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Didn't want to punish him too severely, said he had

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Speaker 2: a tough life, and so arrest after arrest, he was

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Speaker 2: Democrats are responsible for the policies like this that lead

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Speaker 2: to things like this incident. They have made a clear

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Speaker 2: decision that leads to more of this, more rapes, more murders,

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Speaker 2: all of that going on, instead of the Democrats even

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Speaker 2: making an argument for why they're actually not that bad,

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Speaker 2: or why they've learned some lessons and they're going to

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Speaker 2: change things around, it's let's try to remember thirty four

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Speaker 2: felony counts. Theoretically, they could lock Donald Trump up for

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Speaker 2: this for the rest of his life. In theory, they

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Speaker 2: could try, Okay, the judge could just decide, yeah, the guidelines.

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Speaker 2: go to appeals and everything else, but certainly a sentence

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Speaker 2: of incarceration is possible when someone says you have thirty

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Speaker 2: four felony counts against you. With all the things going

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Speaker 2: Biden regime, what do they do. They turn around and

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Speaker 2: they weaponize the system against Donald Trump in the most

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Speaker 2: obvious and egregious ways, such that I believe now we've

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Speaker 2: reached a point where people, even people for whom Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is, they don't like his you know, his persona

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Speaker 2: or the way he approaches They don't approve of the

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Speaker 2: know whatever. There are plenty of people that have problems

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Speaker 2: with Trump.

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Speaker 3: We all know that.

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Speaker 2: But some of them who have problems with Trump understand

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Speaker 2: that this has now been elevated to it's bigger than Trump.

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Speaker 2: This is truly about the future of the country. Trump

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Speaker 2: is a critical component of this. But if you can

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Speaker 5: York is a It is a disgrace.

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Speaker 2: To the legal system. What is going on in New

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Speaker 2: York City. If you can do that to Trump, you

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Speaker 2: speaking today. This has cut one before his trial. Listen

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Speaker 2: to what the man himself has to say. On Saturday,

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Speaker 2: we have a tremendous rally, and howey, we're going to

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Speaker 5: It's in Wildwood, New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a big crowd and we're going

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Speaker 2: to be saying, a lad, we'll be able to campaign

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Speaker 5: And nevertheless, we have a horrible gag order that should

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Speaker 2: Your witnessing is a first What your witnessing is the

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Speaker 2: first time this has ever happened before. Think about all

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Speaker 2: the times they used the term unprecedented against Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: And of course, as we know, they were abusing the

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Speaker 2: addiction Democrats, the Democrat Party, the American Left, the Kamis,

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Speaker 2: they are addicted to hating Donald Trump. This has become

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Speaker 2: the great distraction from the holes in their souls, from

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Speaker 2: the lack of purpose that they have, from the stupid

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Speaker 2: decisions that they have supported or done themselves on COVID,

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Speaker 2: on crime, on the border. Trump is the ultimate distraction

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Speaker 2: for the left. He makes them think that they're always

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Speaker 2: the good guys, no matter what is happening and no

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Speaker 2: matter what they have done. This is why it is

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Speaker 2: so useful for them psychologically to establish Trump as the

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Speaker 2: end of democracy, the end of the republic, this great evil.

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Speaker 2: It is a delusion. It is a delusion that serves

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Speaker 5: If I was triple masking and getting my fifteenth COVID

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Speaker 6: I don't even know who they are. I'm going to

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Speaker 6: lock up criminals. And why don't we just have more

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Speaker 2: The people that have just that that avalanche of bad ideas,

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Speaker 2: observe from this. The Democrats who believe in all of that,

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Speaker 2: and notice they basically believe in it all together, all

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Speaker 6: Are on the campus is now, Oh, Israel isn't apartheid state,

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Speaker 6: cut off all the weapons, digest.

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Speaker 2: All this nonsense, all the same. Donald Trump as the

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Speaker 2: American hitler, the fascist, the destructor of the American experiment,

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Speaker 2: all of this they are undermining our society. They are

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Speaker 2: kicking at the load bearing walls of our civilization. And

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is just the fixation of all of this.

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Speaker 2: You know, when Trump says, they're not coming after me,

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Speaker 2: They're coming after you.

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Speaker 3: I just stand in between.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason that resonates so well, and in these

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Speaker 2: criminal trials you are seeing it. Nobody could sensibly believe

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Speaker 2: And nobody can believe that they take the system seriously

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Speaker 2: right liberal in the small l sense. Nobody can believe

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Speaker 2: doing the things that we are seeing them do in

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Speaker 2: the ultimate poetic justice here as possible. They're all in everything,

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Speaker 2: including the kitchen sink effort to destroy Trump and bring

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Speaker 2: In this election cycle may be the greatest backfire, the

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Speaker 2: I do think that is possible. But I promise you

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Speaker 3: We will stay focused.

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Speaker 2: And we will keep pulling apart the nonsense and the

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with

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Speaker 5: We've got Dave McCormick with us.

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Speaker 2: He is a US Army veteran, former CEO of Bridgewater,

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Speaker 3: We need him.

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Speaker 5: No pressure, Dave.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, the future of the election and maybe

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Speaker 2: the future of the Republic rests on your ability to

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Speaker 3: So you know, we know you're used to.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready, How are you?

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Speaker 2: Now we're an election cycle now, right, I mean, we're

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Speaker 4: Well, I think in general it's a real disgrace that

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Speaker 4: or actually penn students the most vile things. Zionism is racism.

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Speaker 7: Dave, we appreciate you coming on with us. We know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the two issues of inflation and abortion.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, inflation and border are the two big issues. Inflation.

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Speaker 4: And this is the direct result of President Biden and

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Speaker 4: see what is doing. So that's issue number one. A

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Speaker 4: close second is the border. Ten million illegal migrants, I mean,

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Speaker 4: You guys know these statistics. Those are just the ones

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Speaker 4: These cartels pushed the fentanyl and that's just in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: We're speaking to David Cormick, running for Senate in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: against Casey, and Dave, I'll want to bring something to

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Speaker 5: Are they gonna do the whole Oh, we go our

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Speaker 2: We're not these crazy leftist democrats that have been running

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Speaker 5: Like, I just want to.

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Speaker 2: Know if we're if you're seeing that and if that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually think you know, Fetterman's a mystery to

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Speaker 4: me too, But I think we're in such a crisis.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to just call balls and strikes.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure Fetterman and I disagree on ninety percent

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Speaker 4: Let me give you an example. He says he's against anti

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Speaker 4: This is a test. This is a test for these

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Speaker 7: We hear a lot about the get out the vote

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I'd say two things. One, Pennsylvania

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Speaker 4: And the key is to get these voters registered and

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Speaker 4: And then the second thing's mail in ballots and listen.

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Speaker 4: This is an area where I think we have alignment.

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Speaker 4: close that gap. We're not going to exceed the Democrats,

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Speaker 4: but we need to close that gap. His campaign and

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Speaker 4: a big advantage the Democrats have. We're not going to

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Speaker 4: fix that advantage overnight, but I think we were going

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Speaker 4: And Pennsylvania is going to be you know, when President

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Speaker 4: Trump wins and I win, we're going to win by

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Speaker 4: a few points. So this really matters and it's part

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Speaker 4: in our country.

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Speaker 2: Dave mc cormick, everybody, Dave really appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you guys are great. Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. Thanks

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Speaker 4: for having me and hope to see you soon.

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Speaker 5: Thanks some m We will see you soon.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna come up there. I'm going to find a

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Speaker 7: game I'm going to campaign with. You can't wait to get.

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Speaker 4: Up to time, all right, I was gonna say it.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready, man, we can find a big pen. It'll

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Speaker 7: Yes, we're gonna do it. I promise we'll get it

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Speaker 7: on the schedule here coming up soon.

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Speaker 2: We've got our friend Eric Hovedy in the mix. He's

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Speaker 2: is also where the RNC will be this summer, so

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Speaker 2: no doubt we will be drinking some Bruce Kes eating

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Speaker 2: some cheese curds with him during RNC week, although I

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Speaker 2: will have to find gluten free beer.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you, Eric, Thanks for coming back on

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 8: Great being on the show. And we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 8: eat some brots as well. You can't appear, Yeah, you

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Speaker 8: gotta hit broz Man bro bro any.

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Speaker 2: Any excuse to eat some form of the seasoned meat family.

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Speaker 2: I'm generally a fan of Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: Here he is.

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Speaker 5: I wanted because you're you're an.

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Speaker 2: Economics guy just understands or not like an economics professor,

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Speaker 2: but somebody who has to actually succeed in the markets.

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Speaker 2: You took over community banks. You have a background in

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Speaker 2: the private sector. You've done very well, and so you

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Speaker 2: understand finance and where where you have to be right

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Speaker 2: and you have to see what's really happening in the

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Speaker 2: economy around you. Governor Santiz obviously super sharp guy. I

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Speaker 2: wanted you to react to what he says about what's

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Speaker 2: been going on with all the spending and how it

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Speaker 2: affects Wisconsin, Nights and everybody across the country.

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Speaker 3: Play twelve.

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Speaker 9: This federal government has borrowed, printed, and spent trillions and

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Speaker 9: trillions of dollars far beyond what they should have done

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Speaker 9: over the last many years. We know that when they

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Speaker 9: were doing it, there were a lot of people saying,

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Speaker 9: you are going to have inflation. When the Fed was

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Speaker 9: printing so much money, people were saying, you're going to

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Speaker 9: have inflation. And that's exactly what's happened. And so that

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Speaker 9: has been an invisible tax on every American. People are

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Speaker 9: paying more for groceries, they're paying more for for goods,

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Speaker 9: paying more for services.

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Speaker 2: Tell Us about this invisible tax that Rohn de Santis

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Speaker 2: is setting up here.

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Speaker 8: So let me give you hard numbers behind it. So

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden spent basically four point seven trillion dollars after

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Speaker 8: the economy had already come out of COVID. Remember we

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Speaker 8: spent about four trillion dollars during the heart of COVID,

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Speaker 8: So he spent four point seven. Well, when you spend

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Speaker 8: that amount of money, the Federal Reserve, which is the

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Speaker 8: bank for the federal government, had to monetize that debt,

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Speaker 8: and in that process they increase the money supply by

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Speaker 8: an enormous amount. Well, what is inflation. Inflation is too

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Speaker 8: much money chasing a fixed amount of goods and services.

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Speaker 8: So it's the reckless spending that has created this wave

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Speaker 8: of inflation that has driven up the cost of people's food,

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Speaker 8: their gasoline, everything that they touched in life. And it

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Speaker 8: was never transitory. That was just a total misnomer by

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Speaker 8: Drome who runs the FED. So they've been engaging in

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Speaker 8: voodoo economics and it has cost the American public dearly.

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Speaker 8: But there's a video I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 8: have shown it or have played it for your listeners,

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Speaker 8: where it's Jared Bernstein, who's been Biden's chief economic advisor

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Speaker 8: since his vice president's day. And this guy never was

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Speaker 8: trained in economics, and they're literally asking him about MMT

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Speaker 8: modern monetary theory and he can't even explain the most

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Speaker 8: basic things. And you watch this and go, yeah, you

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Speaker 8: wonder why we have all these negative consequences because we

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Speaker 8: have completely incompetent people leading our government and our government finances.

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Speaker 8: And that's the sad thing about it. So you talk

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Speaker 8: about an insidious tax, Inflation is just a back toward

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Speaker 8: tax that whittles away the standard of living for every American.

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Speaker 7: How much difference and better off do you think the

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Speaker 7: United States would be if everyone representing the United States

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Speaker 7: was like you and had had to run a successful

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Speaker 7: business at some point in time. Because what Buck and

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Speaker 7: I talk about sometimes is Joe Biden's been in government

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Speaker 7: for forty seven or forty eight years, you got AOC's

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Speaker 7: running around. I don't think they understand basic economics. And

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Speaker 7: if you don't understand basic economics, you end up making choices.

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Speaker 7: It feels like that many of our politicians make one.

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Speaker 8: Hundred percent and look, we have a lot of that

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Speaker 8: on the Republican side too, And that's why we're in

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Speaker 8: this position where we have thirty four trillion dollars in debt,

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Speaker 8: where the interest costs on our debt now is bigger

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Speaker 8: than any expenditure in the federal government other than Social Security.

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Speaker 8: It's bigger just the cost of servicing our debt is

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Speaker 8: bigger than our department, and by the way, in a year,

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Speaker 8: will be bigger than Social Security, and it's putting Social

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Speaker 8: Security at risk. So, you know, the problem is you

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Speaker 8: have these career politicians. Senator Baldwin, who I'm running against,

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Speaker 8: is one of the most liberal. Their whole life has

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Speaker 8: been politics thirty eight years and has been in Washington,

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Speaker 8: d C. For coming on twenty six years. She knows

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Speaker 8: nothing about how the real economy works, how business works.

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Speaker 8: Think of it this way. She's never had to buy

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Speaker 8: herself health insurance. She's always had health insurance offered by

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Speaker 8: you know, whatever government position. I've not only had to

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Speaker 8: buy health insurance, I've had to buy it for thousands

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Speaker 8: of people how to manage it. I've seen the disaster

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Speaker 8: that Obamacare has created. So unless you've had to deal

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Speaker 8: with these issues and understand these issues and understand economics,

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Speaker 8: then You've got people sitting in Washington, which sadly we've

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Speaker 8: had for far too long, that don't know what the

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Speaker 8: hell they're doing, and they don't understand the consequences of

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Speaker 8: the decisions they're making.

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Speaker 2: Speaking to Eric Hovedy, he's running up in Wisconsin for

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Speaker 2: a critical Senate seat. He's running against career politician Tammy Baldwin.

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Speaker 2: And on the issue of the spending and what it's

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Speaker 2: doing to the economy, price is certainly going up. But

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Speaker 2: I saw the statistic and it I found it really concerning, Eric,

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Speaker 2: and especially given that they're going to try to pull

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Speaker 2: whatever levers they can in the Biden White House to

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Speaker 2: make things look better than they are. Right, they're going

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Speaker 2: to put lipstick on the pig, so to speak, between

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Speaker 2: now an election day. Even with that going on, forty

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Speaker 2: three percent of small businesses couldn't pay their rent in

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Speaker 2: full because of the economy. Right now, that was just

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Speaker 2: from Bloomberg. What's going on with that?

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Speaker 8: Look the economic data that's being put out, I'm starting

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Speaker 8: to really question. I'll give you this one example, employment data.

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Speaker 8: We've never had a time series like this where what

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Speaker 8: they report for job growth in a given month because

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Speaker 8: they do it the first Friday of every month, and

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Speaker 8: then they'll always put in their revision for the prior

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Speaker 8: month we've had was at sixteen out of seventeen times

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Speaker 8: they say, oh, we've created this amount of jobs, and

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Speaker 8: then the next month they always lower how much jobs

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Speaker 8: they created the last time. Nor do they tell you

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Speaker 8: that most of all the jobs that have been created

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Speaker 8: are second time jobs, not full first time jobs. So

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Speaker 8: if you look at, you know, underneath the belly, if

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Speaker 8: you look at what's happening with credit card debt or

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Speaker 8: auto debt and the default rates that are rising significantly,

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Speaker 8: particularly to those that are you know, in the lower

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Speaker 8: bottom quarter of you know, economic earnings, they're being crushed

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Speaker 8: by inflation, and you know, it's so sad.

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Speaker 4: I was. I was with.

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Speaker 8: A younger person and this young gal came up to

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Speaker 8: me and said, I'm working two jobs. I work all

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Speaker 8: the time, and I'm still having to live with my parents.

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Speaker 8: And I just thought, how sad. I mean, clearly she

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Speaker 8: wants to, you know, be standing on her own two feet,

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Speaker 8: but she can't get ahead, and she's working hard. It's

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Speaker 8: not somebody just CouchSurfing. So what they're doing, they've really

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Speaker 8: damaged the American economy and so many Americans, and on

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Speaker 8: multiple different levels. And again, look at healthcare, look at

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Speaker 8: the cost of health care and the access to healthcare.

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Speaker 8: I really want more Republicans to start talking about this

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Speaker 8: issue because the consequences of what Obamacare, what they passed,

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Speaker 8: are all coming home to roost now with access to

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Speaker 8: care and the cost of care. So they've created a

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Speaker 8: total mess. And it's time we get real people that

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Speaker 8: understand how the economy works and how you know, society

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Speaker 8: works in there, you know, taking over, because that's what

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Speaker 8: our founding fathers wanted. They wanted citizen legislators, people that

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Speaker 8: brought expertise, went and served for a term or two,

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Speaker 8: and then got the heck out of there. Instead, we've

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Speaker 8: created this career politician political class that's been running Washington, DC.

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Speaker 7: All right, I got a gift for you. Could be

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Speaker 7: a good thing, could be a bad thing. Serious, serious question.

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Speaker 7: I think I asked you about this last time. I'm

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Speaker 7: coming up now to Madison, Wisconsin on September fourteenth, Alabama

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Speaker 7: Crimson Tide is going to be on the road playing

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Speaker 7: against your beloved Wisconsin Badgers.

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Speaker 5: Should we do? I know you want to watch the game.

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Speaker 7: Should we do some form of fun Friday evening in

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Speaker 7: Wisconsin area event for all of the Alabama and Wisconsin

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Speaker 7: fans that are going to be in town. To me,

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Speaker 7: this feels like a no brainer, be an awesome time.

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Speaker 8: I think it would be a blast. I'm so excited

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Speaker 8: about this. You know, it's always fun when you get

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Speaker 8: big rivals from Earth from different conferences that haven't been

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Speaker 8: rivals in the past, but big well named program. So

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Speaker 8: we're really excited to have Alabama come up and we

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Speaker 8: look forward to putting on a you know, a great

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Speaker 8: show here in Madison, Wisconsin. It's a great space stadium

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Speaker 8: Camp Randall to watch a game. So we're super excited.

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Speaker 7: We I will be there. I think I'm going to

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Speaker 7: be in town. We should talk about a fun Friday

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Speaker 7: event leading into that game on Saturday. Can't wait to

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Speaker 7: check it out. And I would imagine there are a

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Speaker 7: lot of Wisconsin Badger as well as Alabama Crimson Tide

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Speaker 7: fans listening to us right now who would like to

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Speaker 7: be a part of that. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 7: you're also in the most important state maybe in the

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Speaker 7: entire country, not only for your Senate race, but for

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Speaker 7: who's going to be the next president of the United States.

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent. I mean, look, I don't think Wisconsin's

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Speaker 8: the battleground state. I mean it's one to five. And

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Speaker 8: if I can win this Senate race, this can pretty

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Speaker 8: much not only assure you know, the next two years,

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Speaker 8: but potentially the next four and six years and we

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Speaker 8: move it from a hardcore progressive lefty to somebody with

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Speaker 8: common sense and you know it's a conservative. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's it's gonna be fun. Look forward to it and

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Speaker 8: drinking beer and eating brought and cheese kurds and watching

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Speaker 8: some great football and all the rest.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Cannot wait.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be fantastic. We'll see you then.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact

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Speaker 1: with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 7: Joined now by congressional candidate Blake Master. He's been on

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Speaker 7: the show before, ran for Senate in Arizona. We all

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Speaker 7: know that Arizona is going to be a huge battleground. Blake,

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Speaker 7: appreciate you going on, coming on. What are you seeing

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Speaker 7: in Arizona? How confident are you having seen what you

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Speaker 7: saw in twenty two and having fought the battles there

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Speaker 7: that Arizona is going to go red in twenty four,

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Speaker 7: not only in your race, but also in the Senate

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Speaker 7: in the presidential What are you seeing?

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Speaker 10: Well, thanks, guys, it's great to be back. You know,

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Speaker 10: I am optimistic. I'm seeing a lot of encouraging signs

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Speaker 10: when you look at the polling. I think Trump is

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Speaker 10: just kind of cleaning up in Arizona right now. He's

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Speaker 10: up five to six seven points even depending on the pole.

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Speaker 10: And anecdotally that's what I'm seeing too. Right we know

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Speaker 10: that the magabase is fired up, but we also know

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Speaker 10: Arizona is a little bit more of a swing state

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Speaker 10: right now. So where are those people in the middle?

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Speaker 10: And unfortunately, we've just got two more years of this

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Speaker 10: Joe Biden experience. Now since the midterm election, people know

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Speaker 10: that their eggs cost twice as much as they used

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Speaker 10: to breakfast cereal increasingly unaffordable. Right, mortgage rates continue to spike.

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Speaker 10: But what I'm hearing most is people are just mad

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Speaker 10: as hell about the open border. Right, millions more illegals

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Speaker 10: have come in basically invited by Joe Biden since twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty two. It's by far the number one issue in

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Speaker 10: the state. Second would be cost of living and inflation,

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Speaker 10: and no matter which way you slice it, Biden is failing.

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Speaker 10: People really do want Trump back.

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Speaker 2: Hey Blake, great to have you on the program. So

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Speaker 2: you know, we recently talked to a Senate candidate and

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Speaker 2: hopefully former a future GOP colleague of yours about the

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Speaker 2: political terrain in Montana because it's a little funky. It's

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Speaker 2: majority Republican, but there's this big middle chunk that is

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Speaker 2: unaffiliated to party and lean's kind of libertarian right. In Arizona,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned this, What is that middle trant that really

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Speaker 2: determines the election? Is it traditional GOP? John mccainyax. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what you call them, but you know, people

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Speaker 2: that are in that realm, Like, what is that additional

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Speaker 2: layer in terms of Arizona's political makeup.

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Speaker 10: I think it's much more just people in the middle,

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Speaker 10: people who are not paying too much attention to politics.

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Speaker 10: God blessed men. They're working hard in the Biden economy,

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Speaker 10: They're trying to make ends meet, they're raising their kids.

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Speaker 10: They're not that political except Joe Biden is making them

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Speaker 10: political because everything, like I said, costs more, and you're

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Speaker 10: seeing the not just the videos of illegals coming across

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Speaker 10: at the border. We've all seen those videos, but now

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Speaker 10: you're seeing it in your community, right, You're seeing Southern

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Speaker 10: Arizona is just a different place than it was a

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Speaker 10: few years ago. Even up in Glendale, right in my district,

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Speaker 10: you're seeing more and more homeless people. You're seeing more

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Speaker 10: and more evidence of drug deals happening on the street.

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Speaker 10: And this is Glendale, Arizona, Like, this is not supposed

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Speaker 10: to be happening there. So I think it's people in

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Speaker 10: the middle, you know, people in the John McCain wing

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Speaker 10: of the party. I think they're gonna maybe they have

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Speaker 10: to hold their nose. They're gonna vote Trump, right. I

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Speaker 10: think Republicans are going to be united. It's all going

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Speaker 10: to be where are the people in the middle, And

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Speaker 10: they are just so anti Biden right now. I think

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Speaker 10: that's why Trump is crushing in the polls.

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Speaker 7: Blake, how do you see the on campus protests. I

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Speaker 7: know there was a viral video of Arizona State frat guys.

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Speaker 7: They're not Southern frat guys in the traditional sense, I

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Speaker 7: guess Southwestern frat guys cleaning up the pro hamas protester trash. Literally,

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Speaker 7: that was laid out all over the ASU Quad and

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Speaker 7: it feels to me like Democrats are panicking because they

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Speaker 7: know how badly these campus protests are playing. Do you

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Speaker 7: pick up on that in Arizona? That Arizona State situation

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Speaker 7: kind of resonate. Do you hear it from people as

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Speaker 7: you go about the campaign?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Actually, you know, I went the day that the Arizona

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Speaker 10: State protest was happening. I swung by campus in Tempe

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Speaker 10: and I was just talking to some people. We got

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Speaker 10: some video. I think we'll put out a video on

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Speaker 10: this soon. But you know, I mean, if if a

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Speaker 10: protester was wearing a mask and they had a Palestinian flag, okay,

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Speaker 10: he can't have a reasonable conversation with them. They're just deranged.

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Speaker 10: But all these people who were kind of watching the

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Speaker 10: protests I got to interview, I got to ask like, hey,

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Speaker 10: what do you think about this? And basically they thought

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Speaker 10: it was a joke. Like I think people in the

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Speaker 10: middle think that these campus protests are a joke. Because

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Speaker 10: they are a joke. They're bad for Joe Biden. I

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Speaker 10: think it highlights how he can't really keep a lid

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Speaker 10: on his own coalition. You guys probably saw this video too.

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Speaker 10: There was one where you had the Maga frat boys

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Speaker 10: who were saying f Joe Biden and then the police

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Speaker 10: in the middle. Yeah, and then on the other side

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Speaker 10: you had the Gaza Hamas protesters saying F Joe Biden.

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Speaker 10: So if there's one thing Joe Biden can do to

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Speaker 10: unite the country, it's because he's so horrible. Everyone knows

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Speaker 10: that he's bad.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Blake Masters, he's running for Congress in Arizona

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Speaker 2: and Blake to that end, how much do you think

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Speaker 2: the border is going to play into your district and

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Speaker 2: your state more broadly in this election? A few months ago,

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Speaker 2: maybe two three months ago, it was falling away the

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Speaker 2: biggest story in the country for I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: six weeks time something like that. Seems to have died

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Speaker 2: down a bit in terms of media focus, but there

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Speaker 2: has been polling at least in the in the past

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Speaker 2: few months that suggests it's a top issue. What does

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Speaker 2: it look like in Arizona and do you think that

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Speaker 2: could be a difference maker?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it is the most important issue, certainly in my

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Speaker 10: MI race. You know, by district district date is a

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Speaker 10: very Republican district, is one of these primary only situations,

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Speaker 10: because whoever wins the primary is going to win the general.

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Speaker 10: On the Republican side, illegal immigration is far and away

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Speaker 10: the most important issue, and second would be cost of living.

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Speaker 10: Those might if you look at the polling, that might

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Speaker 10: reverse in the general election because you get so many

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Speaker 10: of the swing voters. But call it number one, number two,

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Speaker 10: number two, number one, whatever. The two issues on every

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Speaker 10: voter's mind here, whether it's the July primary or the

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Speaker 10: November general election, it's stopping illegal immigration and stopping Joe

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Speaker 10: Biden's inflation. And what's remarkable about both of those, I

752
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Speaker 10: think both are just threatening this country. Both are choking

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Speaker 10: this country illegal immigration and inflation. They're both caused by

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Speaker 10: Joe Biden. Right two, three or four years ago when

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Speaker 10: we had President Trump, you have low illegal immigration and

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Speaker 10: you have low inflation. So the contrast now between Trump,

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Speaker 10: a successful president, and Biden, who's just failed at everything

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Speaker 10: he's touched, could not be more clear.

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Speaker 7: Blake, A lot of us who are outside of Arizona

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Speaker 7: have seen the chaos of the Arizona elections in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty two. You saw it up close in person.

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Speaker 7: It's not only chaotic. It's that it takes weeks, almost

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Speaker 7: feels like a month, to actually know what the final

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Speaker 7: tally is going to be. As we know, twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: four is going to be close, and Arizona is a

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Speaker 7: battleground state that could be close again. How confident are

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Speaker 7: you and how confident should we be that Arizona can

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Speaker 7: get its results fairly, quickly and reliably in this election?

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Speaker 10: You know, it's a tough question. I wish I could

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Speaker 10: say I was more confident, but it's why we have

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Speaker 10: to work so hard. I'm not at all sure that

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Speaker 10: we'll have a clean and well run election. I mean,

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Speaker 10: we didn't in twenty twenty two, right, and unfortunately not

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Speaker 10: that much has changed. What we have to do is

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Speaker 10: overwhelm the system, right. I think, as President Trump says,

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Speaker 10: you got to win by a cheap proof margin, and

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Speaker 10: so we need to be better than the Democrats at

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Speaker 10: their own game. What the Dems did in twenty twenty two, right,

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Speaker 10: is they actually hired activists to go pound on people's

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Speaker 10: doors and basically gather their mail in ballots. Now we

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Speaker 10: can't do that exactly. We can't take custody those ballots,

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Speaker 10: ballot harvesting is illegal in Arizona, but we can and

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Speaker 10: I think the new RNC leadership is doing this right

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Speaker 10: turning point is doing this. We can pay those activists

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Speaker 10: to go and collect those early ballots, encourage those early

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Speaker 10: ballots to come in, walk people to their mailboxes. If

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Speaker 10: we had done that, then we would have swept in

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Speaker 10: Arizona in twenty twenty two. It takes about ten million bucks.

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Speaker 10: It's a big investment. Got a corral one thousand activists.

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Speaker 10: But if we go do the chase, and if we

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Speaker 10: go show up en mass for President Trump, I think

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Speaker 10: we can put enough legal votes in where even if

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Speaker 10: Miracopa County doesn't have it all together again, I think

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Speaker 10: we'll still win.

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Speaker 3: I really do. And we have to because what's the.

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Speaker 10: Alternative right get demoralized about what happens in twenty twenty two. No,

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Speaker 10: Sometimes when you get knocked down, you got to learn

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Speaker 10: from learn from the experience, dust yourself off, get back

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Speaker 10: in the arena. And this is our last chance twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty four. I think it's our last chance to save

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Speaker 10: the country.

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Speaker 7: Amen, Blake Masters, good luck. We'll have you on again

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Speaker 7: as it gets closer to election day. To be sure,

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Speaker 7: but appreciate all the battles you're fighting for us out

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Speaker 7: in Arizona.

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Speaker 10: Thanks guys,