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Speaker 1: Ronan, You idiot. That was Tim mcgrow, the country singer.

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Speaker 1: I haven't live this down yet. Well I'm glad she

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Speaker 1: you know, and this I'm telling you, Tom, I feel

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Speaker 1: of my own defense. Who's going to the car doctor?

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Speaker 1: First of all, in ninety two, this is sort of

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Speaker 1: a primitive pete compared to today's modern vehicles. In terms

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Speaker 1: D one scheme to a little square plug. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the radio home of ron and Nanian the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since this is air car owners the world over returned

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Speaker 1: to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your

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Speaker 1: and call in. The garage doors are open, but I

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Speaker 1: six and now running. I saw the future yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: um it was quite an experience. I have seen what

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Speaker 1: will shape our society I think probably for the next

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Speaker 1: forty years. In terms of automobiles. I see where we're

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Speaker 1: going clear as day. Hunter Engineering came out to see

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Speaker 1: us yesterday and they've got a new to market um

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Speaker 1: AIDOTS machine, Advanced Driver assist you know with when we

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Speaker 1: talk about you hers talking about aiming cameras and radar

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Speaker 1: bells and whistles and safety features that they want all

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Speaker 1: the cars to have. Well, Hunter has a machine. They've

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Speaker 1: put together a product that will help calibrate and service

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Speaker 1: these systems, and they needed a place to try it out,

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Speaker 1: and they picked us, and they showed up at the

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Speaker 1: shop yesterday. We knew they were coming, and it was interesting,

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Speaker 1: how will this work? We know how it will work

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Speaker 1: in a dealership where you've got you know, acres and

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Speaker 1: it work in a three day repair shop, you know,

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Speaker 1: a typical scenario scenario setup that that's really what I

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Speaker 1: and probably around the world. It was interesting. Um, My

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Speaker 1: first observation was that in order to do some of

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Speaker 1: the calibrations we were working on, and we did a

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Speaker 1: a Toyota. I think it was UM two Japanese vehicles.

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Speaker 1: And in order to do the calibrations, half the car

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Speaker 1: to make the car level we had to chock it

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Speaker 1: have to work on that. I I think as a

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Speaker 1: shop owner, if I were to jump into this, I

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Speaker 1: UM I have to think of a way to do

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Speaker 1: Danny and I were talking about this. We're gonna get involved,

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Speaker 1: and I said, I don't think we have a choice.

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Speaker 1: If we take a bumper off to do a headlight,

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Speaker 1: kind of unbelievable. As I was centering the machine, I

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Speaker 1: just ask that information out there and take it with

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Speaker 1: a grain of salt. All that it worked for me.

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00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this with your two thousand one,

427
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: with your caravan or your van that you were just

428
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: talking about. Um, he replaced plugs and wires, but didn't

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00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: do a coil, didn't Okay? And then when you replaced

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00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: all right, and it's still ran terrible. Well, it shifted

431
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: out be the motive running better, but shifted out weird.

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00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: It would it would go off into you'd be ready

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00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: to shift in the high gear with you go off

434
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: in the limb. But like transmission sleeping, you have to wait, stop,

435
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: put it back again and take over again. You know,

436
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: without without knowing, was trans fluid low ever service the

437
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: trans ever changed trans fluid. Okay, say you know I murder?

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00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: You know it was a case that you know adaptives?

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00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Um do you know? Do you have you ever run

440
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: the mile? Jimmy, I can't even walk well, but you

441
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: know back in the day you know, okay, okay, too

442
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: bad knees and I can't. I can't do nothing like that.

443
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: So I know how it does. Right, So you know,

444
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: it reaches its mechanical limit and then electrically it reaches

445
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: a limit and then you reset up by disconnecting the battery.

446
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: But adaptives try to modify and change it to maintain

447
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: a certain level of performance. Same thing in a human being,

448
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: the same thing in a car. Right you with me?

449
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: So maybe and I'm I'm making some assumptions here, which

450
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: is a dangerous word and the dangerous thought. You know

451
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: it's possible. Yeah, and I know you do. I just

452
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: want to keep this family radio brother. Um, you know

453
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: it just might be that, you know, you change the

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00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: adaptives and something changed in the way that vehicle was

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Speaker 1: driven and it just didn't come back. Listen, it worked, right,

456
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: It's a it's an eighteen year old vehicle. In that case,

457
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: it worked. What I say, I don't know at what

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Speaker 1: point of time they changed to complete, right, And it's

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00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: it's just and you know, listen, part of my responsibility

460
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: here is you know what, there are some backyard conversion,

461
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: shade tree mechanic tricks that do work. Uh. You know,

462
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't, but I'm just telling you

463
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: going forward on the newer stuff. Um, I'm not saying

464
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: I agree with it. Listen. My idea of technology sometimes

465
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: it's a seventy two monty Carlo. I think that's just fine,

466
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: but you know it's it's I don't want to encourage

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00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: people to start disconnecting battery cables because they're gonna get

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00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: themselves in trouble. Uh. You know where would I have

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00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: started with that two thousand one? Of course, the first

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Speaker 1: thing I would have done. Is just scanning for coach

471
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: what information is there? Look tell I'll tell you what.

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00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I had a ninety nine Toyota Avalon in the shop

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Speaker 1: this week that I couldn't get any information on. It

474
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: was a struggle just trying to get anything to go.

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00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: And one of the one of the reports that I

476
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: read talked about I had to find the blend or actuator,

477
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: the temperature blend or actuator and disconnected and put it

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00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: into reset. And part of me was tempted to because

479
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: it's buried behind the dash, do I disconnect the battery cable?

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00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: I couldn't bring myself to do it on a ninety nine,

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00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it on a two thousand one. I

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00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: found the actuator, took the time and diagnosed it the

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00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: right way. So just be careful about what you're disconnected.

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00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate your call, Jimmy, you'd be well. I'm running

485
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: nating in the car doctor. We are back right after this,

486
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Welcome back around Needing the car Doctor. By the way,

487
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: time this Iraq Porstione book that we want to give away,

488
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: this might be more valuable than we realized. Carston posted

489
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: up on Facebook that Pablo Escobar is IRAQ nine eleven

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00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: just sold for two point two million dollars. Is the

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00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: book worth two million and not? The book is probably

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00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 1: not worth two million. But if it's so, I just

493
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: but um so anyway, Iraq Portions book is still up

494
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: for grabs. Tom hasn't made it this asion as anybody

495
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: asked you about a toime, nobody even knows it's here.

496
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: They just want to talk to me, all right, So

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00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: we'll listen. We'll hold until next week. If nobody asks

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00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: word it's um, but it's gotta be, you know, it's

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00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: it's I don't want to just give it away to anybody.

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00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: I want somebody that's gonna appreciate it to you know,

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00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: because as as Carston points out there, um, you know,

502
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: two point two million dollar Porsche, Who's who's Pablo Escobar?

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00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: You'll have to tell me later. Um, I'm not really sure.

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00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: So maybe he's a bad guy. No, I don't know. Um.

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00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Let's go over to Donovan in Indiana. Oh seven Lincoln

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00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: mk X and uh a lean running condition. Donovan, Welcome

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00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help? Donovan? Donovan

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00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: going once? Donovan going twice? No, Donovan, Donovan, good the

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00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: electrons to Indiana take longer. Um, we have to kind

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00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: of go around the you know, there's a power flux

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00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: somewhere around the middle part of Ohio. So, um, how

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00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: can I help you today? Sir? Then linking m K

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00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: a mechanic because it was leaking oils from from the gasket. Okay,

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00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: which gasket? The manifold gasket manifolds it ran great, ranat kill.

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00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: So they did the gasket while he was there, and

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00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: I said, hit that to part Good, closing the back back.

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00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: He did that, get get it to me and instantly

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00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I noticed it's misshiring and a shutter shaking. So I

519
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: took a gut diagnosed made good at Pizer wants someone

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00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: lean bank one back to him and he's had it

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00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: for about two months and can't find what the reason

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00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: it is. So you know, okay, let's have the conversation

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00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: this way. Um. Do you know what fuel trim is, Donovan? Yes? Okay,

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00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: So he's looking at you know, he should be able

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00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: to see fuel trim one bank versus the other one's

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00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: rich one's lean or one's normal one's lean. Is he

527
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: looking at bank too, just to see what it looks

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00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: like and the reason I say that is, um, how

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00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: does it? How does a vehicle set a trouble code?

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00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: All right, it's a rhetorical question if a fault code

531
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: occurs regarding fuel trim because the vehicle hits fuel trim.

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00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: If Bank one goes to and bank two is at,

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00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: Bank two won't set a code, will it, but bank

534
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: bank one will is? Does that mean there's a problem

535
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: across the board. It's it's a very different diagnosis looking

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00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: for a fault code or a lean condition on one

537
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: bank versus two banks. So your first suggestion to him

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00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: is what our first common question suggestion is what's fuel

539
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: trim on bank too? Is bank to normal? Bank one lean? Great?

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00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: If bank one's lean and bank two is approaching failure?

541
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Different diagnosed? This agreed? Yes? Okay. Second, I have a

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00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: question for you, though, doctor, go ahead. My father says

543
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: that a lot of those uh it's something I guess

544
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: at different speeds will step down from a six field

545
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: or yes sometimes you know to me giving under four,

546
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Well you know, let's let's not deal with hearsay, let's

547
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: deal with let's let's diagnose this first question blean both

548
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: banks or lean one bank? Second question, does your mechanic

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00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: have access to propane, he should be using some sort

550
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: of a sniffer either propane. I don't like carb clean.

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: Carb clean is too wild and volatile. You know. The

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00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: better shops, in my opinion, will use propane hooked up

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00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: to a metering device, and there's various ones out there

554
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: that will allow them to gently sniff around and see

555
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: where does the vehicle pick up fuel, trimp, where does

556
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: it change? Oh no, he's not using that man or something. Yeah,

557
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: tell him to get past smoke. Smoke is only good

558
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: under certain conditions, and most smoke machines only put out

559
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: one ps i or less, so it may not be

560
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: enough pressure to actually produce the leak. So I'm gonna

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00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: put I'm gonna put him on the spot. I'm gonna

562
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: put you on the spot. Go back, ask him those

563
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: two questions and comments. You call me back next week

564
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: and tell me what the answers are, and then we'll

565
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: continue the diagnosis. And please donovan call me on a

566
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: better phone. This one was kind of breaking up. It

567
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: made it tough, honest, but I want to talk to

568
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: you again. I'm run a nady in the car. Doctor.

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00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this welcome back on any

570
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. I want to comment on our

571
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: last call from Donovan. First of all, I want to

572
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: comment on this regarding this whole hour that you know

573
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: we're still hearing things. Look at what I've learned this

574
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: hour from you guys, that we're still doing things the

575
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: old fashioned way. We're disconnecting batteries and the and the

576
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: hopes and the attempts of clearing out problems. You can't

577
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: do that anymore. You've got to get out of that

578
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: habit because you're gonna disconnect something on a newer vehicle

579
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be behind the eight ball. And whether

580
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: you're a professional, a do it yourself or just a

581
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: vehicle owner, that's not proper procedure, a DOS won't allow

582
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: for it. Electric cars are going to change the way

583
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: we think about diagnosis. We've got to learn to diagnose

584
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: right from the get go. I want to talk about

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00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: the shop that's got the car for two months with

586
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: a lean fuel condition code and they're checking it using smoke.

587
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: So you know, we ran out of time there with

588
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: Donovan and his phone connection wasn't the greatest, but you know,

589
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: understand a smoke machine works up to a certain limit

590
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: depending upon the machine. It's anywhere from three quarters of

591
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: a pound to a pound and a half of pressure.

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00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: That's it. And vacuum is different than pressure. I can't

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00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: I can't begin to tell you how many air conditioning

594
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: systems I've worked on in my forty plus your career

595
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: where I'll pull a vacuum, put refrigerant in it, and

596
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: at least because a pressure leak reacts differently than a

597
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: vacuum leak. Uh An a c system when it's building

598
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: pressure and the seals are pressure righted because the compressor

599
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: is on or the cops or the system just has

600
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: refrigerant in it reacts differently than if it's pulling a vacuum.

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00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: One of the things that I hold near and dear

602
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: to my heart is a letter that my little Nannian

603
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: wrote when she was going to school to be a psychologist,

604
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: and she talks about how my dad inspired me because

605
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: my dad taught me to think outside the box. And

606
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: she goes on to say how psychologists are like mechanics

607
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: of the mind. And there's a whole great letter she

608
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: gave me, and I hold it in my office. It

609
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: hangs up. My point is, you've got to think outside

610
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: the box. If what you're doing doesn't work, don't take

611
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: two months to sit there and keep throwing her thart

612
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: against the wall. Think about another way to do it.

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00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm run an Ani in the car doctor, reminding you

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00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: absolutely good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you