1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: That's the name of the show. I just forget the 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: name of the podcast. No, did you forget the name 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: of a podcast? 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Because you did the thing where you don't write your 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: intro into your script and then you think you can 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: handle it, and then you get there and you're. 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: Like, whoa, I have to do this thing? Yeah. Yes, 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy And this is a podcast 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: about history and some of the people in it that 12 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: I think were cool. And this is like extra Cool 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Special Week because it's the first half of a four 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: parter about the people who are the reason I started 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: doing the show, or rather specifically, the reason I like 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: got really interested in history is this because of this 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: particular story. But the other person who really likes history, well, 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: there's actually two other people like history on this here 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: recording one of them. I'm not even going to tell 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: you the guest is yet first, and we tell you 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: about the producer, because why is the producer always after 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: the guest question? That's Sophie. Sophie's the produce. I have seniority. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: I should be introduced. I know you should be before me. 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: But our guest is Mia, Amya, Hello, glad to be 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: back for more of this. I'm very very excited. Yeah, okay, 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: so it's oh and our audio engineer is Ian. Everyone's 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: to say hi to Ian Ian. Our theme music was 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: written for us by a un woman. And this is 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: the part two and it'll maybe make sense if you 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: don't listen to part one, but not really. And if 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: you have a brain like me, like like I can't 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: even watch I can't read comic books or watch anime 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: because there's too much of it and I have to 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: start at the beginning of things, and if there's no 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: actual through line, it's it's over. Like I can't read 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: a comic book because there's no start because it goes 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: multi versus to break my head? Is this? I think 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm unique in this. But linear your history with Martyr Kiljoy. Okay, 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: maybe you have a different brain and you want to 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: listen to only part two. You know what you could do? 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: Put down this next week, start with part three, and 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: then go to part one, and then part four and 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: then part two. If you want to have an anime experience, 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: everyone's going to get so mad at me for talking shit. 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: Anemy is great. It's beautiful and there's nothing wrong with it. 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: If this is the experience you're seeking out, go watch Boccado. Okay, great, 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: we'll get this experience exactly. So we are talking about 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: Argentinian anarchists and the labor movement, and we're building up 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: to a wild strike from nineteen twenty to nineteen twenty 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: two in the rural parts of Argentina and Patagonia. But 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: we are building up because there's so much cool shit 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: that came before it. Last time, we talked about the 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Baker's Union to sell little cannons that are that you 54 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: can eat their pastries. I wonder if they make vegan versions. 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: I wonder if there's anyone in the US anyway. I 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: got really distracted because I haven't eaten enough pastries today. 57 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: But where we last left off, there was a guy 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: who just exploded, and now we're gonna go back in 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: time to talk about how he got exploded. His name 60 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: was Falcon, and the person who blew him up his 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: name is Simon Simon Radowitski. This is not the pacifist bomber. 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: I promised you at the very beginning of this episode 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: on Monday that guy is still coming. This is another 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: coolest fuck bomber is. This is really the great thing 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: about early twentieth century anarchis it was like, you get, 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: there is no conceivable world in which you can say 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: the bomber and it's a specific guy. Yeah, totally. And 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: it's funny too, because like the tiniest percentage of anarchists 69 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: in the early twentieth century were actually bombers, and then not, 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: an incredibly large percentage of the archists nearly twenty century 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: were cool with the bombers. Yeah, but this one everyone 72 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: was cool with. And I think everyone will understand why 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: as I go through his story. Simon Radowitski is a 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: Ukrainian Jew. He was born in Ukraine in eighteen ninety one. 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: His dad wanted him to get a good education, so 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: send him off to school. So he got a good education. 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: There was a problem. They were poor as fuck, so 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: by the time he was ten, he had to drop 79 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: out of school. He dropped out of school, he went 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: and become an apprentice blacksmith. By fourteen he was a 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: factory worker. I don't actually know what happened with the blacksmith. 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, he feels like apprentice to a blacksmith is 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: a better line of work than factory worker. It might 84 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: have just been the industrial revolution and poverty and whatever. 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: It worked out well for him because the factory workers 86 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: they were unionized. So he is fourteen when he goes 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: to his first strike, and you know what happens when 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: you strike in Ukraine in you know, nineteen oh four 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: or whatever. They shoot everyone. Question. Well, okay, so think 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: a little more medieval. Oh, cavalry charges. He got cut 91 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: across the chest with a saber by a cossack when 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: he's fourteen years old. 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, who was probably on a horse, Yeah, or at 94 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: least famously they were horse related folks. 95 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: It took him six months of bed rest to recover. 96 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: I would argue that it's not the kind of shit 97 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: you forget being cut across the chest while trying to strike. 98 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: Then still like fourteen or fifteen or something, he gets 99 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: out and he's like, you can't keep this man down. 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: That is the one thing that you will learn about 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: this man. He gets out, you know, he recovers six 102 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: months bed rest, fourteen or fifteen years old. He does 103 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: four months in prison for passing out leaflets being incredible 104 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: incredible government over here, by the way, like real great stuff. Happening. 105 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we put this guy in prison for 106 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: four months for passing out leaflets. 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: He was checked notes fourteen. Great great things happening in Ukraine. Yeah, totally. 108 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: And there's some blurriness with this next chunk of timeline 109 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: because it says he was born in eighteen ninety one, 110 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: and then like it kind of implies he was like 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: eighteen by the time the nineteen oh five revolution, which 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: does not line up. The math does not work on that. 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: He was probably fourteen or fifteen by this time of 114 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: the nineteen oh five revolution. I don't know how much 115 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: we've covered that particular revolution. It's one of the closest 116 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: revolutions in history, but the when you have a like close, 117 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: when you have a successful one, like twelve years later, 118 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: people don't remember the almost as well. 119 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also just like a deep like okay, I'm 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: gonna do it various my tangent one of the weird 121 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: revolutions that was originally led by a police informant whoa 122 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: really yeah, yeah, I got I haven't covered this deeply 123 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: enough yet. It is it is wild. I don't know. 124 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes police and sometimes police informants screw up and accidentally 125 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: do the revolution anyways, So yeah, the agent who like 126 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: throws a brick and then the brick causes the entire part. 127 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: It's one of these things where it's like this is 128 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: like the other thing, you know. It's like, like why 129 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: everyone really wanted to burn down the office's a secret 130 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: police in nineteen seventeen. It's like, partially it is because 131 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: people hated him, and partially because a lot of people 132 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: were like, oh shit, we need to destroy the records 133 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: that show that I was collaborating this whole time, because 134 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: now now we've actually done this thing. They actually changed 135 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: they actually it wasn't a provoctur working for the government 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: that brought down the government. It was a provocateur who 137 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: was like, never mind, have changed my mind? Overthrow the 138 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: fucking Oh no, no, no, sorry, this this is different. This 139 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: actually was someone who was working with the government and 140 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: they were trying to like do a protest to like 141 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: let off steam, and then that just ah, I didn't 142 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: want to get caught. Okay, okay, I one of these days, 143 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: and I'm going to ruin it by telling the plot 144 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: of the story that I've wanted to write for twenty years. 145 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: It's gonna be about tubervocteurs, one of whom is a 146 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: FED and one of whom is a local cop, and 147 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: then they fall in love and then they convince each 148 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: other of anarchism, and then they die in a horrible 149 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet style like a gunfight with the police, 150 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: because like they finally admit that they're cops to each other, 151 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: but then it's like too late, the Feds are onto 152 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: them anyway. One day. Let me, since Netflix listens to 153 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: this show the entity Netflix listens on a regular basis, 154 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: let me write this as a TV show. So nineteen 155 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: oh five Revolution does not work. Rentraw behind me is 156 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: growling upset about the failure of that revolution and he 157 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: is forced into exile at eighteen years old because of 158 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: his role in the nineteen oh five revolution. I don't 159 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: know whether he like, I don't. I don't, like I said, 160 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: don't know the math here, So also just like not 161 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: you do not want to be Jewish in anywhere controlled 162 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: by Russia after that revolution? Terrible time. Yeah, getting out, 163 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: good idea. Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna don't worry. There's gonna 164 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: be anti semitism in this episode. However, it's not left 165 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: anti Semitism. This time, unlike some of the pogrums that 166 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: were the result of the nineteen by Revolution. He goes 167 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: to Argentina, he finds the anarchists, and he gets to 168 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: work as a mechanic. He was in the crowd on 169 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: May first when Falcon's guys were like, hey, let's like 170 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: murder a bunch of people and like shot the crowd up, right, 171 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: So he survived this massacre. And then Falcon was like, 172 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: you know whose fault this is? Can you guess we 173 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: just talked about it? No, the Jews, Jew's fault. Oh okay, 174 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: you know that that? Yeah, okay, I've I was being 175 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: too optimistic about Yeah, the police specifically, it's the Jews 176 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: from Russia. And so you have this Russophobia. I don't 177 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: know if that's a word that ties into the anti Semitism. 178 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: They're entirely conflated at this point. So as a Jew 179 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: from Russia, Simon is like, oh, fuck, no, fuck this guy, right. 180 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: And it did not help that Ramon Falcon gave his 181 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: cops fucking sabers and called them cossacks. 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: Ah, out of the frying pan, this kid went hack. 183 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: You cannot escape the saber wielding Cossacks. If you're a 184 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: Ukrainian Jewish anarchist at the turn of the twentieth century. 185 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: Now he's not a violence for violence kind of guy 186 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: or kid. Really, he's eighteen or nineteen at this point. 187 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: He regularly talks about how anarchist should use as little 188 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: violence as possible, which is overall, but not universally, the 189 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: style for anarchists at the time, not that they are pacifists, 190 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: but and not that they should use no violence, but 191 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: the violence should be used as little as possible. And 192 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: about this, I want to quote Malatesta because whenever I 193 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: have an excuse, I like to quote Malatesta. This is 194 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: Maltesta in about thirteen years earlier, but I think it 195 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: sets a lot of the tone and understanding for seventeen 196 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: years earlier. So quote. We must do as the surgeon 197 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: who cuts when he must, but avoids inflicting unnecessary suffering. 198 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: In a word, we must be inspired by the sentiment 199 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: of love for people, for all people. It appears to 200 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: us that the sentiment of love is the moral source, 201 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: the source of our program. It appears to us that 202 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: only by conceiving the revolution as the Grand human Jubilee, 203 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: as the liberation and fratnization of all no matter what 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: class or what party they have belonged to. Can our 205 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: ideal be realized? That's the page that Simon Radowisky is on, 206 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: as best as I can tell, because he's not. It 207 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: comes up a bunch of times that he's like, he's 208 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: not a like bomb is first option? Guy? Right? Yeah, 209 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: And I want to say we were talking about earlier 210 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: anarchists have this reputation being like the mad bombers of history. 211 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: But I would like to invite the listener to compare 212 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: the number of bombs used by the advocates of nation 213 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: states versus the number of bombs used by the opponents 214 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: of nation states. Like, yeah, like there are individual like 215 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: there have been individual bombing runs in the past decade 216 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: that I dropped more bombs in every anarchist in history. 217 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: Like it's I will bet money that the Israeli government 218 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: did so in the last week while we were recording this. Yeah, yeah, 219 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: there are absolutely unethical bombings by anarchists in Argentina around 220 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: this time. I read about one, and but then again 221 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: I read this from a very right wing source, and 222 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: it so it's hard to know. Right, There's like one 223 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: where they claim that the anarchists tricked a kid into 224 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: bombing themselves. I don't know, because there's no other real 225 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: evidence of like suicide bombing or anything like that being 226 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: used by anarchists. Yeah, and that's like not a and 227 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: that's a thing, but like SUSI, bombing is a is 228 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: a relatively recent thing. Like it's not really an anarchist thing. 229 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: If you're anarchist, you're trying to throw the bomb and 230 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: get away, assuming you're doing bomb throwing. Yeah, actually except 231 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: our passive but we'll talk about him. But he wasn't 232 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: a state side pommer either. He was like a like 233 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: non violence it was his obedience guy only in violence. 234 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: But he's later. We'll talk about Kurt Wilkins next week. 235 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: So Siemon he waited. Falcon was at this like funeral 236 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: for some state guy, and Semon was like, all right, 237 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: I'm waiting along this route he knew he would be 238 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: traveling on, and he threw a bomb into Falcon's coach, 239 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: killing Falcon. And his secretary's like not the administrative assistant, 240 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: but you know the whatever as adjunct. Yeah, there was 241 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: some The official name here is secretary, but he's like 242 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: another military commander guy. I should have written down his 243 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: title besides that, but I didn't. Semon did not make 244 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: it far before he was caught, and the state wanted 245 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: to execute him. Understandably, so I get why the state 246 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: wants to fill out like, but his defense finds his 247 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: birth certificate and they're like, hey, he's only eighteen. He 248 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 2: is not eligible for the death penalty in Argentina, just 249 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: life in prison, which means nineteen oh nine. Argentina has 250 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: more humane treatment of young offenders. Yeah. Three In the 251 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: United States, a god whoh, he gets life in prison 252 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: and each year and he has ay, they they fuck 253 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: with him each year. Near the anniversary of his assassination, 254 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: he's put into solitary with only bread and water, and 255 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: the government flips the fuck out and they stop pretending 256 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: to be any sort of democracy. They declare a state 257 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: of emergency over one fucking guy. Well, I guess two 258 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: fucking guys. They fill the jails, they shut down every 259 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: union they can, and whenever this shit happens, whenever I 260 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: read about this stuff in history goes one of two 261 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: ways right away. Most often people get scared away from 262 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: radical politics, and people get mad at the bomber and 263 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: are like, hey, you fucked up the movement by exploding 264 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: a guy who kind of deserved exploding, but it still 265 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: wasn't a good idea and fuck you, right, that is 266 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: like the most common result of people explosion. Not the 267 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: workers of Argentina in nineteen oh nine. They're like, this 268 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: is our guy, the La Protesta, the newspaper. They're forced underground, 269 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: but they publish a moral justification illegally fora The the 270 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Syndicalist Union is also now underground, and they put out 271 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: a pamphlet called or they're not syndicalist or in our 272 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: communist Sorry, someone's gonna be mad. They put out a 273 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: pamphlet called our Defense, and then they defend Radowitzki there 274 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: and this is the big Federation of Labor Unions, right, 275 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: this is like of the afl CIO is like, no, 276 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: it's our guy about like or whatever. And so they 277 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: refuse to let him become isolated, and they refuse to 278 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: disclaim him, and by doing this they make their movement stronger. 279 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: Through a period of repression, he becomes a central figure 280 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: in the movement. While he's in prison, there's rallies and 281 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: campaigns to free him, some of which are the let's 282 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: ask nicely variety, other which others are the we're gonna 283 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: revolt and throw general strikes until you free him variety, 284 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: and some of them are like, well, we're just gonna 285 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: break him out of prison variety, diversity of tactics everyone. Yeah, 286 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: all three combine to spoiler, they get him out of 287 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: prison eventually, and I think it takes all three. And 288 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: I'll talk about why he spends his time in prison. 289 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't like keep his head down right. He's not like, oh, 290 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: it's time to study and you know. No, he's like 291 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: he is at the front of every prisoner strike and demonstration. 292 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: He's in the worst prison in the Yeah. No, he's 293 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: I always I like Kurt Wilkins, the bomber we're gonna 294 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: talk about next week, so much that I've always kind 295 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: of been like a Simon, He's just another guy whatever, 296 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: you know. And then like when I deep dived him, 297 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this guy fucking rules. 298 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 299 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: So he's in Argentina's side, which is a tier de fuego, 300 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: the bottom, and it's bad and it's the place where 301 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: literally most prisoners die. They're like, hey, go here and 302 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: fuck off and die. You know, he doesn't die. He 303 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: is routinely sexually assaulted by the warden. When comrades send 304 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: him money, he immediately just gives it freely to all 305 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: of his fellow prisoners. So all of his fellow prisoners 306 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: like him because he's helping them all out. He's at 307 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: the front of everything. He's like everyone's commissaries. Yeah, And 308 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: I just want to follow his story to its conclusion. 309 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: He's not central to the strike, but I think having 310 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: a sense of the Argentinian movement is really useful. At 311 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: one point, the anarchists smuggle him onto a ship and 312 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: get him out of Argentinian waters, like a small smugglers 313 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: sailing ship, right, But the Chilean navy catches them and 314 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: he goes back to prison and he spends two I know, 315 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: he spends two years in a windowless sell on half 316 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: rations as a result of this. After twenty years in 317 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: prison in nineteen third, the movement kept going for twenty 318 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: fucking years. He's released because of all the pressure and 319 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: then gets deported. They're like they're like, get him to 320 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. 321 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: But like. 322 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: The constant pressure and the streets and the media made it. 323 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: The government was like, we just want to get rid 324 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 2: of you instead of having this living martyr on our hands, right, 325 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: and one woman, more than anyone else, is responsible for 326 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: freeing him, and we're gonna talk about her. We're going 327 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: to a whole separate section on her because she rules 328 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: so much too. This is just like, this is just 329 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: like the fucking two weeks of like all my favorite characters, 330 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: they're just all in this fucking story. And now he 331 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: wasn't like, oh man, I got out of prison and 332 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: got supported, It's time to live a quiet life. Oh god, no, no, 333 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: not Simon. He you know, he's now probably thirty eight 334 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: or so. He's deported to Udaguay and and then he 335 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: gets deported to tim Yeah, and then he gets deported 336 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: from there. Yeah. Yeah, that seems like that seems like 337 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: a terrible idea if you, oh, we got we got 338 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: to send a revolutionary somewhere. We're gonna sumem to Uruguays. Yeah, amazing, 339 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 2: good great work, guys, Like nothing could possibly incredible repressive 340 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: mapparatus and that this is actually uh, there's a whole 341 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: lot of like cross especially Argentina and Notaguay and also 342 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 2: Chile or there's like a lot of revolutionaries moving back 343 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: and forth, especially in the like like one day we're 344 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: going to do a whole thing after the like nineteen 345 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two thing. Then there's this whole period where 346 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: like all the anarchist bank robbers are having there, like heyday, 347 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: and you have all this like yes, like Robin Hood 348 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: shit happening everywhere, and it's all cross border. But that 349 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: is not even that's a one day we're going to 350 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: talk about that. So Egos Utuguay and he gets deported 351 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: from there from trying to overthrow their dictator, and then 352 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six happens, where famously nothing happened of interest 353 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: to the anarchists and or a friend of the pod 354 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: the Spanish Civil War. Don't worry, you know I was 355 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: going to bring up the Spanish Civil War. Maybe I 356 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: already did last week. I can't remember. He's like, all right, 357 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: let's fucking go right. He's in his forties and he's 358 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: he goes there and he doesn't just like go be like, hey, 359 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: I spent twenty years in prison. I can just happily 360 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: live in an anarchist city for a while, like maybe 361 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: help with some of the organizations. No, he like immediately 362 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: goes to the front and he volunteers with the Anarchist 363 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: twenty eighth Division, and he goes to the front. And 364 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: I've read a couple different versions of this, the one 365 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: that I find the most convincing. They're not really like contradicting, 366 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: but there's like different little weird details. I'm trying to 367 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: piece together the best I can tell. He's like, I 368 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: don't want to kill people anymore. I killed two people. 369 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm good. So I'm going to become a truck driver 370 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: and drive food to the front and like straight up 371 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: into the trenches, still absolutely putting himself a harm's way, 372 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: and you know what, will also deliver food directly to 373 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: where you're struggling against cap This is actually technically true. 374 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: They were absolutely deliver food to where you're struggling against capitalism. 375 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: If you I don't know who the ads are going 376 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: to be. If one of them is a food delivery service, 377 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: you can use it or not use it like whatever, 378 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: like we've had, so that'd be they should be pleased 379 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: with this. Yeah, they're exactly like Simon Simon Radowitsky. Well, 380 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: actually I would say that the like Uber drivers and 381 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: ups drivers and shit are all ratis shit. So yeah, 382 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: there's there's a bunch of or at least last night 383 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: checked out half a decade ago, there were a bunch 384 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: of Synicholas uber drivers in Indonesia. So I don't know 385 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 2: if any of you are listening. Hell yeah yeah uh. 386 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: And then if there's any ads for anything else, they 387 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: were a mistake, and please direct all complaints to our 388 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 2: complaint department at Irate. Okay, on X? Is it more 389 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: fun to call it? See? In my mind, I like 390 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: every time I say X, I feel like I'm making 391 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: fun of Elon Musk because it's such a fucking crappy name. 392 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: Or is it more fun to dead name X by 393 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: calling it Twitter so that he can for a fit 394 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: and be like, how come no one, we'll call it 395 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: by chosen name, even though he's a transpher who hates 396 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: his kid. Website. Okay, on that one fucking website, that's 397 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: where a complaint department is. Here's some ads, and we're back, 398 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: and we were just saying a bunch of legally actionable 399 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: stuff that we're going to cut out of the podcast. 400 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: Say all right, So he survives the warm, he flees 401 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: to France and where he's imprisoned in a concentration camp 402 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: like all the other Republicans fleeing. And this is, by 403 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: the way, not not the Nazi collaborationist government. This is 404 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: the France before it's surrendered. However, isn't this the popular Front? 405 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: A little bit mixed? And it's it's a little bit 406 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: messy because the word concentration camp has it's not it's bad, 407 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: it's always bad. But there is a scale here, right, 408 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: there's a put everyone in one place thing where we God, 409 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm really not trying to defend this. And then there's 410 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 2: the Nazi thing, right, anyway, he's put in a fuck 411 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: it's not good what happens to him, but it's not 412 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: he's not specifically escaping a Nazi death camp, right. He 413 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: somehow gets the fuck out of this. I don't know 414 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: if they let him go or what. And he gets 415 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: himself off to Mexico where he spends the rest of 416 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: his life, not just like like he's not. He spends 417 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: the rest of his life where he writes for anarchist papers. 418 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: He spends about half the time in the hospital because 419 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: my man had a fucking hard life, right yeah, And 420 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: he spends the rest of his time organizing mutual aid 421 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: and he works sending care packages to refugees who are 422 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: escaping Europe right and or internally displaced within Europe because 423 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: of World War Two. He works in a toy factory 424 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: and he lives in a bear attic, and he dies 425 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: of a heart attack on the factory floor on February 426 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: twenty ninth, nineteen fifty six. He's in his late sixties. 427 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: But you know what they say, and by they, I 428 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: mean me and making this up right now. But it's true. 429 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: Anyone who dies on leap Yer day doesn't really die. 430 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: So I'm sure he's still out there passing out toys 431 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: to kids, giving money to prisoners, avoiding killing someone unless 432 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: they really really just need to get exploded. Yeah, Okay, 433 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: that's Simon Redowitski. I really like him. There's someone else 434 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: I really like too. This would be a good transition 435 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: to like plugs, but it's not. It's just another historical person. 436 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: This is about one of the people who fought for 437 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: his freedom. This is probably the woman who secured his freedom. 438 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: And her name is Salvadora Carmen Medina and Rubia. Salvadora 439 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: was bored in Buenos Aires in eighteen ninety four to 440 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: Spanish immigrants. Her father's job, which is a classic nineteenth 441 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: century working class job, is died young. Her mother's job, 442 00:24:53,840 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, I would like funny, thanks, I'm proud 443 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: of that one. And her mother's job was rural school mistress. 444 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: She moved to the city of Rosario and gets involved 445 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: into her two main lifelong interests, which are anarchism in theater. 446 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 2: She also becomes a teenage single mom. By the time 447 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: she's nineteen, she goes to Buenos Aires and she's working 448 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: at the anarchist newspaper La Protesta that I keep talking about, 449 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: and she's publishing her writing in a bunch of other 450 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: papers and gets involved in nineteen fourteen in the free 451 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: Radowitsky campaign. By the time she's twenty, she marries his 452 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: other writer guy. She's just like, oh, I like, we're 453 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: both like cool writers, and we're in low We're going 454 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: to totally get married and he's actually good. This is 455 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: usually this is what a woman say, Yeah, no, no, 456 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: he's okay, he's like not as cool as her, but 457 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: she keeps him in line. But then instead something happens. 458 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: This is why she's one of my favorite historical anarchists 459 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: to talk about to some of my friends. This guy 460 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: that she marries soon starts in his run the most 461 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: popular daily paper in the city called Critica, which at 462 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: its peak is selling seven hundred thousand papers a day. Jesus, 463 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: this isn't the anarchist paper. This is just like basically, 464 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: she marries the guy who starts The New York Times, right, 465 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: and she just becomes this like rich bitch anarchist, and 466 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: she stays an anarchist her whole life, despite her success, 467 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: and I fucking love it for her. So she's just 468 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: like helping the cause whenever anarchists and like, so like 469 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: anarchist papers get shut down all the time, like Le 470 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: Pretesta is like constantly being shut down, right, So she 471 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: hires the editors, all the anarchist editors over at Critica. 472 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: So this is amazing. The daily paper is like half 473 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 2: run by anarchists, which, as someone who works for Higheart Radio, 474 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: I feel like we might all appreciate. One time, a 475 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: bunch of seamstresses are like economically fucked. I think they 476 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: lose a strike or something. So she drives her rolls 477 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: froys down to where they live and just starts handing 478 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: out sewing machines to the women in the crowd out 479 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: of her rules. Rice amazing, and her husband is like 480 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: radical on his own right, but he's kind of like 481 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: catch all radical right when he's like and so he's 482 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: like at one point he's like, oh, let's let Critica 483 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: become a communist party paper, and she just shuts that 484 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: shit down. No, we will not do that. I am 485 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: an anarchist. And she regularly runs feminist columns, the occasional 486 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: anarchist piece in the papers. It does not become an 487 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: anarchist paper, right, And then during the Tragic Week, which 488 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: we'll get to sadly, she's like standing on top of 489 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: coffins of dead anarchists screaming to crowds when the police 490 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: break up their funeral. And this is like one of 491 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: the most powerful women in the country, you know. All 492 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: the while she's getting famous as a poet and a playwright. 493 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: She writes Hit, an arc of feminist plays, and she 494 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: writes an aristocratic romance novel that's like a feminist critique 495 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: of society. And also she's just really into getting high 496 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: on ether. Just nothing has changed about anarchists, Like, yeah, 497 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: it's like the feminist when getting high, Like nothing has 498 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: ever changed. Yeah, yeah, I used to shoot tin types, 499 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: which means I used to get high on ether a lot, 500 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: not on purpose. But I was always like, why don't 501 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: I feel so relaxed after a day of shooting tin types? 502 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: And the answer is, I stick my head into this 503 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: light because you have to develop them on the spot, 504 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: you know. And I used to go to these steampunk 505 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: conventions and like shoot photo like tin type portraits, and 506 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: that's how I made my money for a while. And 507 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: and so you like stick your head into a steamer 508 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: trunk with like a hood over it, and just like, 509 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna live very long. I don't even like drugs. 510 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: That's the funniest thing about all this shit. But anyway, 511 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: so and during all of this, she does not drop 512 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: out of the campaign for Simon Redowhisky. She also doesn't 513 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: change your tune about how it should get done. I 514 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: can't find exactly how she orchestrated the following two escape attempts. 515 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: All I have is this quote from a libcom article quote. 516 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: On two separate occasions, Salvadora dispatched employees of the paper 517 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: to orchestrate his escape from Isshuia. 518 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: Literally the paper employees, not even like a random anarchist 519 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: like get paid for that wor imagine being that employee 520 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: is like, yeah, hey, my boss, my boss just told 521 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: me to go free this anarchist from prison is like, 522 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 4: oh you you two, You're the second person. 523 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: Who's got ask to do this this time. Good luck. 524 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: I like, I assume I want to offer her the 525 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. I assume it was some of 526 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: the anarchists employees, right yeah, and I spose they wanted 527 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: to do it. If they didn't, she's being a little sketchy, 528 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: but or she's just like planning other escape attempts and 529 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: she's sending them the employees to be like go interview 530 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: the chief of police today and I'm not gonna tell 531 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: you why, or you know, like I don't know. Both 532 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: of these ventures are discovered and Simon has left to 533 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: languish behind bars. I have no information about whether or 534 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: not the employees were arrested or if they were paid 535 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: up paide hazard pay. But where direct action failed, constant pressure, 536 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: which I believe included all this direct action, succeeded. It 537 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: helps when the woman who half runs the country's most 538 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: popular newspaper has been involved in your campaign since she 539 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: was a fucking teenager. It was her direct pressure on 540 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: the president that got him to set Radowitzki free, and 541 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: it was a relative of her husband. This is why 542 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, her husband's still cool, right, who received the 543 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: living martyr upon his exile in Uruguay. So it was like, go, 544 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: when you go to Uruguay, go hang out with our family. 545 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: We'll take you in. 546 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 2: You know, Oh that's really cool. Yeah. During the Spanish 547 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: Civil War, the couple went down to the docks to 548 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: personally help Spanish exiles into the country, and they sent 549 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: money to orphaned Republican children. And she just she lived 550 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: a pretty long life. She outlived her husband, this classic 551 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: form that you know, oh yeah, women are pretty good 552 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: at pulling that off. She died in obscurity thanks to 553 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: the Vagaries of Argentina in twentieth century politics, which get 554 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 2: so complex, and whenever I talk about like, oh, I'm 555 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: doing the same about Argentina, my friends are like, oh god, 556 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, it's before all that, And they're like, wow, 557 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Argentina before all that. And 558 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about the all that that I'm 559 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: talking about vaguely, like the Piran and all that shit. 560 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: I haven't researched enough yet. If you ever want someone 561 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: to die, ask someone who knows what paronism is, and 562 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: you will watch someone's head explode. It's he was like 563 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: a lefty fascist, right. Oh god, there is a total 564 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: aside that I don't just say yes or. 565 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: Now and move on. 566 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I am Okay, Yeah, I have two grudges 567 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: I need to settle right now. Which is that okay, okay, 568 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: me is about to make actionable claims against living existing people. No, 569 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: the I think they're both dead, Okay, okay, So I 570 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: have I have a grudge. I have a very specific 571 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: grudge against two academics. One of them is Argentina and academic. 572 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: One of them is not On Ernesto Leclow and Chantelle Mouf, 573 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: who are both these are They're like they're they're the 574 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: first of like the so called like post Marxists, theorists. 575 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: They're like the people who who They're thing is we 576 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: want left populism, And I fucking hate these people. Their 577 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: work sucks, the writing is bad, their tactics are bad. 578 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: And these people started as left parhists. Yeah, worst idea, 579 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: literally the worst idea anyone had. Like after about nineteen seventy. 580 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: This is this is the worst idea anyone on the 581 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: left has ever had. It's awful. They are they are 582 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: like almost single handedly responsible for like what happened to podemos, 583 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: Like they are there. They are like the premier theorist 584 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: of like twentiest of failed twentieth century left electoral movements. 585 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: Like everyone that didn't work you can find move and 586 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: Leclow you can find their work behind it. I hate 587 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: these people. I'm doing this now because I might never 588 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: get another chance my agrievances. But I've been here this 589 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: for a long time. Yeah, like this is complete, total aside. 590 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: I apologize for derailing the show from my project. But however, no, 591 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: uh you know, okay, let's get back to Argentine after 592 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: the assassination. Yeah sorry, no, no, I literally asked. And 593 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, when I learn more about this other shit, 594 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: like I think every now and then people are like, oh, 595 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: Margaret knows all history. I feel like every person who's 596 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: history podcast gets this, and I'm like, no, I everything 597 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: I know about history I've already said on air and 598 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: then forgotten. So yep, all that's left is like a 599 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: vague whatever. I don't think I'm like, okay, So nineteen ten, 600 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: the year after the explodees, that's what they called that 601 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: period of time. That's not what they called it. By 602 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: nineteen ten, Argentina declares herself in a state of internal war, 603 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: basically to stop the worker's movement. This is not actually 604 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: a response to the assassination. It's a response to all 605 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: these other major strikes and shit. They keep happening, and 606 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: you start getting these far right militias of rich people 607 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: who like burn the anarchists and socialist newspaper offices. The 608 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: government suspends free speech, they suspend free press, they suspend 609 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: free assembly. Formally, they're like, now we're done right. You 610 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: all had your chance of freedom, and you blew it. 611 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: Two thousand anarchists are arrested or or deported, and that 612 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: doesn't stop more and more radicals from showing up and 613 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: throwing down. That's the lesson I thought it was going 614 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: to be. So that's that. God, we're going to get 615 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: to some higher numbers of virus. Oh later, okay, nine 616 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: years later, in the tragic week. So I'll just keep 617 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: cliffhangering that. But don't worry, that's actually going to be today. 618 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: I don't have to wait till next week for that. 619 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't know why you're excited about it? What's wrong 620 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 2: with you? Why are you excited about the tragic Week? 621 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: It's other nickname is the bloody Week? What do you do? 622 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: Why are you so violence minded? Person who listens to 623 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: a podcast about people who do good things and the 624 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 2: usually die. Well. Anyway, they don't stop the movement completely, 625 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: but they fuck up the movement. The government does, and 626 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: everything goes underground for a couple of years. La Protesta 627 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: tries to publish anyhow. I think this is when like, 628 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 2: this is one of the many times when the protests 629 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: to get shut down and all the people end up 630 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: working for critica. I think both times the police raid 631 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: and shut it down and arrest the editors whenever they 632 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: try and publish anyhow. Other editors got that shit going 633 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: by nineteen thirteen, and it stayed going, and then other 634 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: papers keep it going all along. But basically there's a 635 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: period where you're like, all right, it's my turn to 636 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: goo edit an episode an issue of La Protesta and 637 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: then get deported. Argentina is the most immigrant full country 638 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: in the world at this point. In nineteen fourteen, foreigners 639 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 2: make up forty six point one percent of the economically 640 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: active population, of which only one point four percent had 641 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: become citizens. Wow. Meanwhile, there's the less radical syndicalist Union, right, 642 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: and they finally joined the Anarchist Union. And for a 643 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: little while you're like, hooray, like we're all friends again. No, 644 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: they do it doing a classic thing called entryism. They 645 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: did as a specific tactic to come and fuck it up, 646 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 2: and they succeeded at that. They were absolutely the minority, 647 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: but they did a bunch of weird bureaucratic shit and 648 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: got fora to move away from its explicit anarchists communism 649 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: stance to end up becoming their neutral syndicalism stance, the 650 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: thing that hadn't won them any followers because no one 651 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 2: wanted to do it. They were like, well, well's go 652 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: where there are followers and force them to be like us. 653 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 2: So the anarchists split off. This time, they leave FURA 654 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: and they form an organization called You probably can't, but 655 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: can you guess what they name the organization? I actually 656 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 2: I actually know this, okay, Altholthough I did, I didn't 657 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 2: actually know that that was what happened with the FA split. 658 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: I just had heard there was a split, and I 659 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: was like, huh, yeah, they So the anarchists split off 660 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: and they form an organization called FORA. Yeah, because they 661 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: are some salty motherfuckers. The original for A people, the anarchists. 662 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: They're now a minority of them for the moments. The 663 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: anarchists actually become a majority of the working class again 664 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: soon in Argentina. But and they call themselves We're not 665 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: gonna reference. You don't have to. If you're like I 666 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: don't want to keep track of these weird splits, don't worry, 667 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: you don't have to. I'm just gonna complain about some shit. 668 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: So the anarchists split off. They call themselves four A 669 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: five after the fifth Congress in nineteen oh five, when 670 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 2: they decided to become Reading this history is so annoying, 671 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: I know, because it's all anyone wants to talk about, 672 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 2: is like, yeah, yeah, no, and don't worry, I'm gonna 673 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna spare you all of that because this is 674 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: a pop history. That is what this podcast is, because 675 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 2: that's the way my brain works. And so then the 676 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: liberal ish FORA calls usself four A nine after the 677 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: ninth Congress when they decide to be come neutral. I 678 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: think that's also the one where they go into space. 679 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 2: No way that's Fast and Furious. But whenever four X happens, 680 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: this is like my pop culture reference of the day 681 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: because I've actually only I've only seen the first seven 682 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: Fast and Furious movies. I'm not caught up. But anyway, 683 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: I've had weird conversations about masculinity and transition of the 684 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 2: Fast and Furious movies. But that's not for here. There 685 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: is an episode of a podcast called an Arco Geek 686 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: Power Hour that talks about that. If you want to 687 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: hear two queer people talk about the Fast and Furious 688 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: movies and how it reflects on masculinity and things like that. 689 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: So the two fouras, there are some major and important 690 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 2: ideological differences. It's not just we're salty, right. The Anarchist Federation, 691 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: they're mostly the older folks and or their immigrants. The 692 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: Neutral Federation at this point more of them are native born, 693 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: and they allow their member unions to ban immigrants from joining. 694 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: So you start seeing this thing where the unions are 695 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: capable of being reactionary, they're capable of being nativist, whereas 696 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: that shit wouldn't fly under original fora all this ties 697 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 2: into the country's politics. For about thirty years, basically since 698 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: Argentina was recognizably Argentina, there have been one party in charge, 699 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 2: the National Autonomist Party. And you know that whenever you 700 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: take a word that's kind of cool, like socialism or autonomism, 701 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: and then you add national in the beginning, you know, 702 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: you get something better. 703 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 704 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 2: Right, Basically they're the let's like rob indigenous people, exploit 705 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: the workers and get rich as fuck. Party. That's that's 706 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: who started Argentina, much like who started the United States 707 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 2: of America. Right, And so for some weird reason, this 708 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: isn't very popular with the working class. But you know 709 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: what is popular with the working class meum, is it 710 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: the products and services to support the show. That's right, 711 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 2: unless you can't afford them, in which case, steal them 712 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: and we're back. So in the early nineteen tens, there's 713 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: universal mail suffrage and all the men can suddenly vote, 714 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 2: and so they're like, let's get rid of the fucking 715 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: autonomous right or the National Autonomius. I hate calling him 716 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: autonomous because there's like cool people call themselves autonomous, right, 717 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: be like, let's get rid of the fucking Nazis. Those socialists, 718 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: you know, so the radical Civil Union Civic Union, which 719 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 2: also does not deserve its name. But they're better, right, 720 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: they're not whatever anyway, Yeah, the lefties get in. The 721 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: liberals get in is a better way to put it. 722 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: The middle class liberals. They are the main opposition party. 723 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: They win by a landslide in nineteen sixteen. They win 724 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: by thirty three points, which is a lot. Wow points. 725 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: That's right, wild Yeah, and that's a multi party system too, right, 726 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer. No, I don't know. You mean, 727 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: is there like more than two parties running? Like there's 728 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: more than Yeah, yeah, I think I think there are, 729 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 2: But I got hudos. It's I would leave you. And 730 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: this is the middle class party. It is the party 731 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 2: for urban professionals and small business owners. And they're like, well, 732 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: we need to win over the working class and or 733 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 2: they just actually wanted to make things better for the 734 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: working class. Either one of these as possible. So they 735 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: start throwing all these free parties and they're like feeding 736 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: people and they open medical clinics and these are good things, right, 737 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: but they're still the government. And when the chips are down, 738 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: they're going to do what governments do and So the 739 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: reason this is so important to the story, these are 740 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 2: the people who are going to repress all of the 741 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: wildest shit that's going to get repressed in Argentina over 742 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 2: the next couple of years. Like it's basically if Biden 743 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 2: decided to murder a ton of people, so they start 744 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 2: coosing up. The government starts closing up to the less 745 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: cool fora. That's how I'm gonna refer to them instead 746 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: of I can't if you mentioned two numbers to me, 747 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: they're the same number. So the less cool fora. And 748 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 2: soon the liberal run strikes stop having so much police repression, 749 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,959 Speaker 2: will radical run strikes get just as much repression? Ah, 750 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 2: the decade goes on. It's hard as fuck for everyone, 751 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: but you know who else as hard as fuck as 752 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: the Argentinian radicals. And then you get the Tragic Week. 753 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: You know shit is bad when the two names for 754 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: it in history are the Tragic Week and the Bloody Week. 755 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: Late nineteen eighteen like December, good good month. All the 756 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: best stuff happens in December. People now know what astrological 757 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: sign I am. 758 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: Fuck. 759 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 2: Okay, A bunch of anarchist metal workers go on straight. 760 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: Their demands are incredibly minor by today's standards. These anarchists, 761 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 2: they want wild shit. Do you know what they want? 762 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 2: They want to only work eight hours a day for 763 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: six days a week. Wow, incredible, instead of what they're 764 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: supposed to work, eleven hour workdays for seven goddamn days 765 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 2: a week. So they want that, and they want decent pay, 766 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: and they want the re They want the fired organizers there, 767 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: the people who organize the strike, they want them hired back. Right, 768 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 2: Those are their fucking wild, crazy demands. I mean, they 769 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 2: actually also want society to be to restructured completely without 770 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: a state or capitalism. But this is what they're fighting for. 771 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 2: This is what their demands are. The supposedly radical government 772 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 2: at this point is fucking terrified of the Russian revolution 773 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: that's happening, and they're fucking terrified of it happening in Argentina. 774 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: They are as fiercely the liberal government is as fiercely 775 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 2: anti communist as anyone. And I'm pretty sure that the 776 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: anti Russian sentiment that they have was often specifically and 777 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 2: directly anti Semitic. There is this terror happening in Argentina 778 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: of Ashkenazi Jews, in particular, the dreaded Russian Jew the 779 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: right wing conflated the two so completely that they would 780 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: just say death to the Russians, to mean kill all 781 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 2: the Jews Jesus Christ. About eighty percent of the Russian 782 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: population in Argentina at that time was Jewish. Who were 783 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: you know, they'd fucking led Russia because of the Brahms, right, Yeah. 784 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 2: So when the company that the metal workers are striking 785 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: against right higher scabs, the company is able to use 786 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: its connections with the government, the liberal government, to get 787 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 2: weapons permits to arm the scabs, jees, the metal workers. 788 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: They have the city's workers on their side. Railway workers 789 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: stop unloading raw materials, local shopkeepers start donating food and 790 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 2: coal to the strikers. Because one thing that I keep 791 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 2: running across an anarchist history is that, like, when you 792 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: don't have the like specific, weird class categorization obsession of Marxism, 793 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 2: people are like, that's cool, small business owners are whatever. 794 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be better if they treat their employees, okay, 795 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: but like they're not our enemies, you know, And so 796 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 2: I just I run across this in history. I'm not 797 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 2: trying to make a specific well whatever, I clearly like 798 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: I think workers, cooperators are great, but whatever. Anyway, local 799 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 2: businesses donating. There is a stand still with the strike 800 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 2: because both sides are fucking powerful, right, one side has 801 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 2: the government arming them and the other side has the people. 802 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: On January seventh, nineteen oh, nineteen nineteen, police escorted scabs 803 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 2: to the factory. The only way to have a strike 804 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: is to stop scabs from working, so the strikers tried 805 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: to stop the scabs from working. They also probably overturned 806 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 2: the chief of Police's car and set it on fire. 807 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: That is the right wing account of the story, and 808 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 2: I don't care. Nothing has ever changed about anarchists, right totally. 809 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 2: The police fired into the crowd and killed either four 810 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 2: or five people, I've read both, and the city pours 811 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 2: into the street for the funerals for these workers. For 812 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: the anarchist one, they call a general strike, and all 813 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 2: the workers in the city are like, yeah, obviously, we're 814 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: not going to fucking work for capitalist focks who fucking murder. Yeah, right, 815 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 2: this is the most complete general strike in all the 816 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 2: general strikes of Argentina's history up to this point. I 817 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: don't know as much about I never people are like, 818 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: what's your opinion on twenty first century politics? And I'm like, 819 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. Everyone should do what they want because 820 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I read history books all day, 821 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: because I've made good decisions of my life. So they 822 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: kind of take over Buenos Aires. Barricades fly up and 823 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: for a brief moment the city is in the hands 824 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: of its workers, and no one doubted that it was 825 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: a revolutionary moment on each side. So the ostensible liberal 826 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 2: government is like, we don't want a revolutionary moment. So 827 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 2: they just worked with the far right immediately hand in 828 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: hand to well, it's called the Bloody Week. Wherever in 829 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 2: history you've got labor unions, it's not just the government 830 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: doing the repression. It's right wing goon squads of like civilians. Right, 831 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 2: we've got the patriot We've got Patriot Front and the 832 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: Proud Boys. Argentina nineteen had Lega Patriotica, the Patriotic League. 833 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 2: This was an upper class militia supported by the military, 834 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: like directly supported a real admiral personally, and they did 835 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 2: a program. They went into the Jewish quarter and they 836 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 2: raped and murdered, They burned books, they burned houses, They 837 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: did a bunch of really specific, humiliating and bad things. 838 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to repeat on this show. They also 839 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 2: joined the cops in the military and the rest of 840 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 2: the city fighting against the workers, which is these are 841 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 2: mixed up, right, because the Jews are workers too, right. Yeah, 842 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: but it was a specific anti Semitic attack. With the 843 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: government's approval, they did a program. And I'm actually kind 844 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 2: of mad at a lot of the anarchist history about this. 845 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: When you talk when you read that Tragic Week from 846 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: a lot of the like mid nineteenth century sorry, mid 847 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: twentieth century history books about it, they don't mention the 848 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 2: anti semitism of the program, and that's fucked up. Yeah, 849 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 2: this was the first time I'd heard of it, and 850 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 2: I'd read a few things about it. Yeah. They However, 851 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: the main source of history outside of that, if you 852 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 2: want to learn about the Tragic Week, is from folks 853 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 2: who fight anti Semitism, who've referred to this as Argentine's 854 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: first program. It wasn't just the right wing focks who 855 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 2: were doing this. The liberal government arrested one of the 856 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 2: heads of the Jewish Labor Bund and tortured him and 857 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 2: forced him to like confess his Bolshevik plans of evil, 858 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 2: where the Jews were going to take over Argentina in 859 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: the New Russian Revolution or whatever. His wife was arrested 860 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 2: and her charges were, as best as I can tell, 861 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 2: her charges were being the fiance of the future president 862 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 2: of the local Soviet, having too many books, and being Russian. Yeah. 863 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 2: So the only thing that kept Buenos Aires from becoming 864 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: a worker run horizontal society in nineteen nineteen was the 865 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 2: raw and brutal mass murder and arrest one that used 866 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: the oldest trick in the book Anti Semitism to rile 867 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 2: people up for reactionary violence. Program was called La Casa 868 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: delos Rosos the Hunting of the Russians, and this is 869 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 2: the birth of the nationalist movement that later takes power. 870 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: What Argentine is like way more famous for I wish 871 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 2: Argentina was more famous for having one of the most 872 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 2: kicks anarchist, fucking movements in the history of the world. 873 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 2: The death toll from this week was estimated by conservatives 874 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty one. It was estimated at 875 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 2: seven hundred by the leftists. The US Embassy says fifteen 876 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 2: hundred people. Most historians seem to stick around seven hundred 877 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: unless you look at like specifically right wing stuff. I 878 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 2: don't know why the US embassy overestimated over everyone else. 879 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 2: They do that a lot, okay, And I don't know 880 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 2: because this is the thing. I've ran into this randomly 881 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 2: with like a lot of other things where the American 882 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 2: numbers will just randomly be high and I don't know 883 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 2: what's going on. They might just be incompetent. Because this 884 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 2: is the everything's bigger and sid exists, it's death toll. Yeah, 885 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 2: it was like this period from like here is you 886 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 2: like the end of the forties is a thing where 887 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 2: you get very weird numbers from the Americans for reasons. 888 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: I died, who knows, I know, run by cowboys, like yeah, 889 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 2: and there's like I'm sure the Americans had some specific 890 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 2: plan that's like outside the scope of what I was 891 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: able to research, you know. Yeah, Okay, So about seven 892 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: hundred people were killed, almost all of them workers. The 893 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 2: couple cops were killed. Most of the workers who were 894 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 2: killed were Jewish, and a lot of the people who 895 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 2: were killed who were Jewish were not necessarily leftists. Also, 896 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: over fifty thousand people were arrested during this week. Argentina. 897 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 2: During this time period, it's not a populous country. There 898 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 2: were about eight million people in the country total. I 899 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 2: couldn't figure out the population of Buenos Aires at the time, 900 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 2: but fifty thousand people is a fucking army. Like, yeah, 901 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 2: I've been in some mass arrests. They were in order 902 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,959 Speaker 2: of magnitude two orders of magnitude lower than that, you know. Yeah. 903 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 2: Like the thing I was thinking was like my immediate 904 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 2: thing for like, Okay, how large is the mass arrest 905 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 2: was there was an arrest of like a I think 906 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 2: like a pretty similar size number of people get arrested, 907 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 2: like the end of the seventies in Italy, ok because 908 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: there's a bunch of stuff, like anarchist stuff going on 909 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,479 Speaker 2: there too, and they arrest a similar number of people, 910 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 2: but Italy has like like Italy has like fifty million people. 911 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah at that point. Yeah, so it's like it's like 912 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 2: the equivalent yeah yeah, yeah. Like so they just arrest 913 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 2: Buenos Aires is what they do. Yeah. And for decades 914 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: the government held the position that they had averted a 915 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 2: Bolshevik anarchist takeover by killing all these people. And at 916 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: first that was like Bolshevik anarchists takeover, and then I'm like, 917 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 2: well that early on in the Bolshevik Revolution, okay, whatever, 918 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 2: those those two sides were on the same side for 919 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: a little while. But yeah, they they were like, we 920 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 2: saved the country from communism, and I mean whatever. It 921 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: didn't help that the Catholic Church had been spent decades 922 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 2: spreading anti Semitic propaganda in the country, including writing it 923 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 2: directly into the textbooks for schools. Oh, which is funny 924 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 2: because the Catholic the Catholic Church's books were like, Jews 925 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: are all usurers and money lenders, right, and then the 926 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 2: Catholic street preachers were like, all the Jews are bad 927 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 2: because they're all Bolsheviks. Because you can't fucking win. You're 928 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 2: either an anti capitalist or a capitalist. You're a Schrodinger's capital. 929 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's bad. It anti Semitism is bad. 930 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: Of course, the one hundred and fifty thousand Jews in 931 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: Argentina at that time were all over the map politically 932 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 2: because they were people, and people famously all over the 933 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,479 Speaker 2: map politically. There were even a bunch of you agree 934 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 2: with each other, Yeah, there were a bunch who after 935 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,439 Speaker 2: this joined lega Patriotica like, and all the other Jews 936 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 2: were like fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. Yeah, like 937 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 2: every other part of the political spectrum was like you're 938 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 2: you're dead to us, right yeah, anyway, uh, In case 939 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 2: you're wondering this tragic week which was really bad, surely 940 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 2: all the weird propaganda about that's over now, right, oh god? 941 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 2: Enter English language Wikipedia article about tragic weeks. Ooh oh no, 942 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: it is all the workers had it coming, and it 943 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: like lists all the like the anarchists must have been, 944 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: must be stopped. You know, it is completely useless as 945 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 2: a source. Some of my favorite lines include quote A 946 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: company of the seventh Infantry Regiment is forced to use 947 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 2: their Vickers machine guns in order to keep demonstrators at 948 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: bay and buenous eires. They were forced machine gun a crowd. 949 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:54,959 Speaker 1: Ooh. 950 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: And also as the toll of dead and wounded amount 951 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 2: to the mobs became more frantic and destructive, No shit, 952 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 2: you killed all my friends. I'm gonna get angrier. 953 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 954 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: This is one of those things where you know, looking 955 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: at like, okay, this is this is the liberal government 956 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 2: doing this, And you get to this point where it 957 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 2: becomes incredibly clear that, like beneath everything else, these people 958 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 2: have exactly one political principle, and that political principle is 959 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 2: that capitalist should own factories you should have to work 960 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 2: in them totally, And you know they will start writing 961 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 2: about like like they will start doing justifications of people 962 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 2: like machine gunning workers in the streets. They will start 963 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 2: doing programs they will like yeh literally anything. Yeah, like 964 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,280 Speaker 2: you know, we're regardless of what they're sort of previous 965 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 2: political principles where everything just flies out the window of 966 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,240 Speaker 2: the moment. Anyone is like, hey, maybe like we should 967 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 2: have the factories the people who work in them instead 968 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 2: of the people who own them. Yeah, totally, we might 969 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 2: do a better job. The economy would literally go up. 970 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 2: And people are like, yeah, but I have like one 971 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 2: hundred thousand acres and I want to keep it. So 972 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 2: I know, I said I was center left, but these 973 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 2: far right guys will just go kill you because of 974 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 2: your ethnicity, and I get to keep my factory. That's 975 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 2: the tragic clink, and it sucks, and it it lays 976 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 2: down the groundwork for what's to come when the rebellion 977 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 2: goes rural off to the steps, where we get to 978 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 2: see even more wildly interesting folks do wildly interesting things, 979 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 2: which we'll talk about next week. H The Fanger Part three. 980 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 2: Even the cliff, You're still hanging from it. I know 981 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 2: you think you've gotten off, but no, still there's still 982 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 2: more cliff. I'm just sitting there with the two by 983 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 2: four like that meme where of the actors like, ah, 984 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 2: fuck you no, wait, no, I want people hanging on 985 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 2: the cliff. I don't want to drop into the rocks below. 986 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: Never mind. What is the metaphor of cliffhangers? Weird? Oh, 987 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 2: it's because at the end of that, right, if I 988 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: was like, and then he's hanging on a cliff. Will 989 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 2: he survive? That's the traditional. Well, during the Tragic Weeks, 990 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 2: Simon Radowitsky broke out of prison and was literally hanging 991 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: from a cliff. Will he survive? We will find out 992 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: next week on cool people who did cool stuff. But 993 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 2: what we'll find out first is more about you and 994 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 2: your podcast or anything else that you feel like plugging. 995 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah I do. I do have another podcast 996 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 2: that I'm mostly doing. It's called It Could Happen Here. 997 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 2: It's about stuff that happens here, you know I really 998 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 2: need in the broader sense. Yeah, I mean sometimes it 999 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 2: is about similar stuff to this too. But yeah, you 1000 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 2: can find us wherever there are podcasts, you can find 1001 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 2: us that happen here a Twitter Instagram. I realize I've 1002 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 2: never actually plugged the thing where there's an Apple podcast 1003 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 2: thing or if we don't want to listen to ads, 1004 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 2: you can get that in the cooler zone. Yeah, so 1005 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 2: you can do that cool zone media. Yeah, I don't 1006 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 2: hear Reagan coins anymore. Yeah, that's what I got. Other 1007 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 2: than I guess I fear the hour of the machine 1008 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 2: gun that comes when you and your bosses have a 1009 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 2: disagreement about who should control factories. Yeah, they did lout 1010 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of sports stores to get guns at the 1011 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 2: very beginning of it all. That's like part of the 1012 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 2: justification too, Right, what do I have to plug? I 1013 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 2: want to plug that in any conflict between an oppressed 1014 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 2: and oppressor, it is important to understand which side is 1015 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 2: the oppressed and understand their actions through that lens. And yes, 1016 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: I'm not even vaguely talking about the Israeli Palestinian conflict. 1017 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking about it explicitly because it is harder and 1018 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 2: harder to talk about that explicitly. And I want to 1019 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 2: say that explicitly, and I want to say that you 1020 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 2: do not have to condone and you can even condemn 1021 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 2: the actions some specific actions by oppressed people without dropping 1022 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 2: support for pressed people who are fighting for freedom, and 1023 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 2: specifically if you are in a place that is safe 1024 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 2: and you can financially can there's a lot of different 1025 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: charities that specifically work for the people who are being 1026 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 2: even further dispossessed within the gaza strip. And you know, 1027 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 2: like literally just getting food to children, and that is 1028 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 2: a fundamentally good thing to do, regardless of anything else. 1029 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 2: Is that the literal point of children is that they 1030 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 2: are innocent and need to be fed. So I would 1031 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: direct anyone who cares about this kind of stuff. I 1032 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 2: just kind of wanted to say that explicitly in case 1033 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 2: anyone there's like some confusion on the left about which 1034 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 2: side is the oppressed and which side is the oppressor, 1035 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 2: and that is an incorrect confusion to have. And if 1036 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,919 Speaker 2: you want to listen more about that, you can listen 1037 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 2: to content from this network that Sharen does on MIA's podcast. 1038 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 2: It could happen here. That's what I want to plug. 1039 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 2: So if you what you got, cool nothing, see y'all 1040 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 2: next week. By Bye. Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff 1041 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 2: is a production of cool Zone Media. 1042 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: For more podcasts and cool Zone Media, visit our website 1043 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: coolzonemedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, 1044 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.