Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I'm tired.
Speaker 2: How are you now on this beautiful spring day?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you be tired? I spent the
Speaker 1: afternoon with both of my parents at the same time.
Speaker 1: I was like, is this what it feels like to
Speaker 1: be an only child? I don't like it. Like I
Speaker 1: was literally sitting between them and I was like, oh mg,
Speaker 1: oh so, but you know what I did the impossible.
Speaker 1: I got them both on the same page as it
Speaker 1: relates to retirement and estate planning. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I am a miracle worker.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is an achievement.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, because what happened was so, hey, guys, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm Tiffany.
Speaker 2: I'm not sorry, but I'm Dandy and we are brown
Speaker 2: and we really worked on that intro. You guys impressed.
Speaker 1: My dad was like, hey, there's this this app ways
Speaker 1: w a Z you know, the the GPS app ways ways?
Speaker 1: And then also too, there's this app. My sister was
Speaker 1: telling him about some stock that she bought. They just
Speaker 1: had IPO drop on Friday, and she just thought it
Speaker 1: was a good stock and I like it too, And
Speaker 1: so she was telling him. Because my dad has been
Speaker 1: an investor for a long time. He just is not
Speaker 1: like an investor on his phone, so he didn't know, like, wait,
Speaker 1: there's like apps that you can do on your phone.
Speaker 1: And he was like, come to the house tomorrow. Your
Speaker 1: sister tried to explain it to me, but she wasn't clear.
Speaker 1: You're a business woman, I'm sure you'll make it better.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, yes, And you know when
Speaker 1: you get summoned, do you have to count? So when
Speaker 1: I came, the living room was all set up for
Speaker 1: like a guest. I was like, who's coming. He's like,
Speaker 1: you sit right here. He's liked, wait, let me wake
Speaker 1: your mother. She told me. She told me to wait.
Speaker 1: When you got here, I said, oh, what's happening? Like
Speaker 1: usually this kind of thing doesn't end well. It usually
Speaker 1: like we need you to cut your hair, or where's
Speaker 1: my grandchild? Or how come you're not married? So it
Speaker 1: was a weird, you know, but it was really pleasant
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh wait, I'm not in trouble
Speaker 1: for the first time. So first they made them maybe
Speaker 1: show them how to get the robin hood app there
Speaker 1: from me while I look at my mother like, ma'am,
Speaker 1: you've never bought like a whiff of a stock and
Speaker 1: she says like, I want to try it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So I didn't know that they didn't
Speaker 1: have online banking, so we had to go back five
Speaker 1: steps just to get to the one step. After an
Speaker 1: hour and a half, they were both up and running
Speaker 1: on Robinhood and then they're like, wait before you leave,
Speaker 1: we heard that there's GPS available on your phone. I'm like,
Speaker 1: who are you people? So another thirty minutes later, I
Speaker 1: had to teach them. I had to download ways on
Speaker 1: their phone and teach them how to how do you
Speaker 1: use it? And I thought, you know what, this is
Speaker 1: a good time because my mom, you know, is wanting
Speaker 1: to retire and my dad had My dad is a
Speaker 1: is a c what was a c PA and a CFO,
Speaker 1: and so he had a whole financial plan set aside
Speaker 1: for them. But my mom actually wants to retire a
Speaker 1: year earlier and she's pretty determined. So because of that,
Speaker 1: they work on the same financial page. And so she
Speaker 1: was like, come and like, you know, help daddy, like
Speaker 1: understand that I don't want to go back to work.
Speaker 1: And so I talked to them about it. Today. I
Speaker 1: talked to them, I'm about state planning. And honestly it
Speaker 1: was great, Like it was at the end and they
Speaker 1: were all excited and giddy and they're like, I feel
Speaker 1: like we had like a great technology lesson. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: while you're feeling happy, you know, I spoke to an
Speaker 1: state planner. I'm a state attorney and I'd love for
Speaker 1: her to come by so we can talk about long
Speaker 1: term healthcare. We could talk about your insurance, we could
Speaker 1: talk about you know, your will and updating it. And
Speaker 1: my dad said okay, and I said also too. You know,
Speaker 1: mommy has a new retirement expert that she's working with
Speaker 1: as far as her financis. He's a CFP financial advisor,
Speaker 1: but he specializes in a baby boomer is transitioning into retirement.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Daddy, you really, I really want
Speaker 1: you to come to the next meeting. And he said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm available on you know, Monday, Tuesday. Meanwhile, you're available
Speaker 1: Sunday to Sunday you're retired. But he wasn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't know that she was talking to this planner.
Speaker 1: He was like not happy because, like I said, my
Speaker 1: dad is really sad. I mean, I got all of
Speaker 1: my financial acumen from him. All of my sisters did,
Speaker 1: and so he's really savvy. He's planned in retirement but
Speaker 1: based upon his timeline. But you know, I think that
Speaker 1: he was just kind of like, you're cheating on me
Speaker 1: with this financial planner, you know. Yeah, but he was
Speaker 1: in a good mood, so I was like, yes, let
Speaker 1: me slip this in. And so I'm happy because he
Speaker 1: was like yes to both things, to the lawyer and
Speaker 1: to the financial planner. And so I feel really good
Speaker 1: because my dad is in his seventies, you know, and
Speaker 1: it just makes me concern that there will still says
Speaker 1: Tiffany age six belongs to uncle Tony, should we pass away.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, my dad texted me the day after text day
Speaker 2: and is like, how do you file an extension? Oh god, oh,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: Don't you just worry about them?
Speaker 2: So I am like so worried. But also, you know,
Speaker 2: I have distance on my side here because my dad
Speaker 2: is in Atlanta. My baby brother is in Atlanta. So
Speaker 2: actually shout out to my little brother because he's usually
Speaker 2: tasked with like dad duty, like you know, computer tech
Speaker 2: support and things like that. Taxes was supposed to be
Speaker 2: my thing, and I was kind of I was like dad,
Speaker 2: here's all the resources, here's how you file. You should
Speaker 2: be able to file for free. There's so much work
Speaker 2: with my dad because he's got this. I think, like
Speaker 2: a lot of people who grew up in like high
Speaker 2: poverty areas. You know, he grew up in Atlanta, there
Speaker 2: is just like this total distrust of the government and
Speaker 2: of financial institutions. And this is the man who I
Speaker 2: witnessed go to a bank. He stood in line for
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes outside of a bank on a Saturday to
Speaker 2: deposit some cash that he had gotten from a job.
Speaker 2: He deposited the cash and then he left and went
Speaker 2: to ATM and took out some money.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 2: I was like, why, Dad, why you wait and wait
Speaker 2: in line just to take the money out at the ATM?
Speaker 2: He was like, I thought about it. I didn't want
Speaker 2: them having that much of my money. And I changed
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but why. And I'm trying to explain
Speaker 2: how FDIC insurance works. You know, up to two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars of your money. That's hell that
Speaker 2: a bank account is entirely insured by the government. You
Speaker 2: will not lose it even if the bank fails. He
Speaker 2: doesn't want to hear it. He just has this. You know,
Speaker 2: he is the kind of person who, and I've confirmed this,
Speaker 2: just keeps cash rolled up in his sock like his
Speaker 2: piggy bang. His whole four one k is like basically
Speaker 2: just stuffed in corners of the I'm like, what if
Speaker 2: the house burns down? But he doesn't care, you know
Speaker 2: he And it's so frustrating to me because now I'm
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm more aware now and I need
Speaker 2: to be doing more to help him. But like he
Speaker 2: almost needs like a financial psychologist, like to undo all
Speaker 2: the wiring and the thought process around money. And it
Speaker 2: was the same way with his taxes. He's thinking, well,
Speaker 2: if I wait till the last minute, Uncle Sam won't
Speaker 2: get my money. I'm like, Dad, you're not going to
Speaker 2: owe any money because I know what you made last
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a refund.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're literally holding back. It's crazy. When my
Speaker 1: mom told me, you know, I don't think I would
Speaker 1: go with that with that financial advisor, because you know
Speaker 1: he wants to well, she didn't understand that he was
Speaker 1: opening up basically a new account because the financial advisor
Speaker 1: obviously not keeping your money with your old financial advisor.
Speaker 1: And She's like, he asked for my sole security number.
Speaker 1: I said, no way. I'm like, Mommy, like, when you're
Speaker 1: opening up a new if you just go to like
Speaker 1: just say Bank of America or Wells Spargo and you're
Speaker 1: opening up a checking account, they're gonna want your sold
Speaker 1: security numbers. The government is keeping track of how your
Speaker 1: money is moving. I was like, it's just a new
Speaker 1: bank account, Like that's normal. She was like, are you certain.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, pretty sure. And I was thinking to myself, Oh,
Speaker 1: one day I'm gonna be old like this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm old like this now. I tell Supergirl, Girl Supergirl,
Speaker 1: help me with this TV put on. I've already become them.
Speaker 2: But financially though, it's yes, it's it's difficult. Like it's
Speaker 2: one thing teaching him how to use the internet, it's
Speaker 2: another thing convincing him that, like Uncle Sam is not
Speaker 2: out to get you, at least not you, not little
Speaker 2: you know, not my dad, other people, sure, but not you.
Speaker 2: It's tough and I still haven't figured out, like what
Speaker 2: day is it. It's been a couple of weeks now,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I gotta get check in with
Speaker 2: dad about his taxes. I don't know what he's done.
Speaker 1: Anyway, parenting exactly, parent reverse parenting, but you know what
Speaker 1: it's it's it makes you like really grateful that of
Speaker 1: the novels that you do have, because you know, if
Speaker 1: I didn't know, then I couldn't I couldn't share it
Speaker 1: with them. I think that somebody because I did a
Speaker 1: video about this on Instagram about you know, seeing my
Speaker 1: parents today and helping them, and someone said, what if
Speaker 1: you don't what if your parents don't have much? I said,
Speaker 1: then you especially need to have this conversation with them,
Speaker 1: especially especially so it's just something that you know, you
Speaker 1: know that if you if you guys are, if you
Speaker 1: have older parents, you definitely want to sit down with
Speaker 1: them at least start to have the conversation. It's not
Speaker 1: you're not going to fix it all in one conversation,
Speaker 1: but you definitely want to sit down and start to
Speaker 1: open up the doors, especially if you have brown parents.
Speaker 1: You know, money and talking to your kids about money
Speaker 1: is typically not part of our cultural norms, but you
Speaker 1: want to start to make it normal.
Speaker 2: And you also, here's another thing to think about is
Speaker 2: they may not want to come to you they may
Speaker 2: be embarrassed and they may not want to admit that
Speaker 2: they have issues. So it's almost more important for you
Speaker 2: to initiate, not even just you don't have to make
Speaker 2: it the big dramatic. Let's sit down and talk about
Speaker 2: your financial picture. But I don't know, ask them what
Speaker 2: you know, what are your monthly expenses like? And how
Speaker 2: are you paying your bills? And hey, what are you
Speaker 2: thinking about doing? What the house? You know, so many
Speaker 2: parents or a lot of older people may feel like
Speaker 2: they should have everything figured out, and they may be
Speaker 2: doing something that's not actually in their best financial interests,
Speaker 2: but they may not realize it until someone asks them
Speaker 2: or they bring it up. And like, you know, like
Speaker 2: one small thing you may find just leads to so
Speaker 2: many other, you know, larger things like I'll give you
Speaker 2: another dad example, and I love my dad, but he's
Speaker 2: he's the best example of this. He recently had decided
Speaker 2: he was going to do like he does a new
Speaker 2: career shift. He's just like a rolling stone, you know,
Speaker 2: it's always worked for him. Just have different Like he's
Speaker 2: just a hustler. He's always been a hustler. My dad's
Speaker 2: always had at least three to four different hustles happening
Speaker 2: at a given time, and recently he was going to
Speaker 2: change his hustle and he wanted to go into business
Speaker 2: as a home inspector because of the time he was
Speaker 2: working in construction, and all the guys that, you know,
Speaker 2: all the guys on the job, were talking about how
Speaker 2: much more money home inspectors make, how it's easy money.
Speaker 2: You just go to a house and open a few
Speaker 2: doors and you pocket like, you know, a few hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: And he thought this was like a golden ticket. And
Speaker 2: he started looking online apparently all this research on these
Speaker 2: for profit colleges, these for profit trade schools that have
Speaker 2: you know, certificates and home inspection or whatever, and they're
Speaker 2: like thousands of dollars. But he didn't tell me that.
Speaker 2: I just happened to ask him about something about his
Speaker 2: construction business, like you know, just trying to small talk,
Speaker 2: and then he led me into this whole conversation and
Speaker 2: he was getting ready to sign up for one of
Speaker 2: these like trade schools, to pay to pay for a
Speaker 2: course that he didn't really need to get certified as
Speaker 2: an inspector. And then I did my own research, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, Dad, here's what it really takes to become
Speaker 2: a home inspector, and it's a whole different thing than
Speaker 2: what you thought it was. And please, dear God, don't
Speaker 2: spend any money on the internet without asking me first,
Speaker 2: because you are a high high fraud risk. My friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, geez yeah, oh yeah. Parents, But you have to
Speaker 1: dissess the thing. I mean, if you, if you have
Speaker 1: a relationship with your parents, it's really important that, especially
Speaker 1: as they get older, you start to you know, normalize
Speaker 1: these kind of conversations with them, because it's easy as
Speaker 1: they get older, no matter how sharp your parents were
Speaker 1: when you were younger, it's easier for them to be
Speaker 1: taken advantage of as they get older. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: don't you know, you don't want that because a lot
Speaker 1: of times, you know, your parents get lonely, and so
Speaker 1: I try to make my way, you know, call them
Speaker 1: and check in on them, and so that way they
Speaker 1: know that if they do have questions. I'm just so
Speaker 1: glad that you know, my mom like she just because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known. She just was like, let me
Speaker 1: call my daughter. She's the financial person, you know. So
Speaker 1: but you know, she could have done this on her
Speaker 1: own and been taken advantage of and so.
Speaker 2: Especially retirement age. You know, all these financial planners who
Speaker 2: can make so much money because they know people retiring
Speaker 2: had these big four oh one K accounts, Yes, and
Speaker 2: they need to transfer them and roll them over. And yes,
Speaker 2: when you roll them over into an you know, a
Speaker 2: regular IRA, financial planners can put you in investments that
Speaker 2: they make lucrative backbacks off of. And that's that's the
Speaker 2: whole reason why this new Department of Labor rule was,
Speaker 2: you know, Obama, the Obama administration was trying to pass
Speaker 2: this new Department of Labor rule called the Fiduciary Rule,
Speaker 2: which was gonna make it so that any financial planner
Speaker 2: working with people to help them plan for retirement would
Speaker 2: have to work in their best interests. And it was
Speaker 2: going to stop It was supposedly going to stop financial
Speaker 2: planners from doing exactly that, like taking retirees uh investments,
Speaker 2: their their nest eggs and investing them into funds that directly,
Speaker 2: you know, provided revenue to the financial planner. And then
Speaker 2: of course Trump came into power, and now who knows
Speaker 2: where this law even, I don't even know if it's
Speaker 2: even passed yet, but it's yeah, it's they're you know,
Speaker 2: they have a lot of funds and these scammers they
Speaker 2: know it. Not just scammers. But that reminds me of Tanya.
Speaker 2: Tanya Rapely, she's the mythab Finance. She has a new
Speaker 2: book coming out. I was talking to her about coming
Speaker 2: on the show soon, but then I saw on Twitter
Speaker 2: recently she tweeted that her mom, you know has it,
Speaker 2: has a house that's nearly paid off and some real
Speaker 2: estate investor had offered her a certain amount of money
Speaker 2: for the house, and her mom came to Tanya and
Speaker 2: asked her if she thought it was a good deal,
Speaker 2: and Tanya's like, no, get your own appraisal. And the
Speaker 2: helm appraised for twice what the guy was asking for twice.
Speaker 2: But they're sniffing around. They're like, oh, yes, these old
Speaker 2: people don't know what they're sitting on the market is up.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can get a sucker. And
Speaker 2: it's scary.
Speaker 1: So it is, honestly, Wow.
Speaker 2: Well I wanted to talk about did you hear about
Speaker 2: this whole Zell controversy? Do you know what Zell is?
Speaker 1: Yeah? If I use it for Wells Fargo uses them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Zell basically was this the big banks got
Speaker 2: together and decided man Venmo, you know this pavement app
Speaker 2: that makes it so easy for people to send money
Speaker 2: to each other is like stealing money from us, basically
Speaker 2: taking a lot of potential revenue for us. So they
Speaker 2: got together and agreed to start with zel z E
Speaker 2: L E. So a lot of big banks like Wells Fargo,
Speaker 2: Bank of America, I think even ally maybe Chase. A
Speaker 2: lot of the big banks now allow you to very
Speaker 2: easily send money from bank to bank through zell. What's
Speaker 2: happening though, is people are realizing so some people are
Speaker 2: using zel to transfer payments to like an online ticket
Speaker 2: seller if you're trying to buy you know, concert tickets
Speaker 2: or you're trying to buy something off Craigslist and you
Speaker 2: want to send money to whoever. And what's happening is
Speaker 2: some people are getting their money stolen by fraudsters. So
Speaker 2: you think you're giving money for something, and yet you're
Speaker 2: never getting what you paid for, and the person disappears,
Speaker 2: and then they want to call their bank and say
Speaker 2: I did this through zell am I covered. You're actually
Speaker 2: not protected if you're the one initiating the transaction, like
Speaker 2: if you're the one sending money through Zell, to the
Speaker 2: bad person, to the hacker, to the fraudster, whoever you're
Speaker 2: in that trend, that fraud is not covered. The only
Speaker 2: one that is covered is if like a fraudster hacks
Speaker 2: their way into your account through Zell or whatever and
Speaker 2: takes your money that way, and it's caused all this
Speaker 2: like confusion and uproar. So I just wanted to let
Speaker 2: everyone know. If you're using Zel, think of it like
Speaker 2: you're giving a twenty dollars bill, like actual cash money
Speaker 2: to someone. You wouldn't send that money put in an envelope,
Speaker 2: stick it in the mail, and send it to a
Speaker 2: random person, but you would hand it to a person
Speaker 2: that you know, like personally, Like if I knew Tiffany, Hey,
Speaker 2: there's twenty bucks for the dinner that you know we
Speaker 2: split last night, I would do that. You never want
Speaker 2: to use Zel to send it to someone who you
Speaker 2: don't know, so an online seller or I don't know,
Speaker 2: even even like a bill, like if someone's trying to
Speaker 2: charge you for some service like a moving company or something,
Speaker 2: don't use Zel because you won't be covered. You won't
Speaker 2: be covered if they end up being a fraudster. Again,
Speaker 2: the only thing that you're covered for is like if
Speaker 2: someone hacks into your count through zell.
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, digital scams are on the
Speaker 1: rise and you have to be mindful. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: you want to especially be careful with your older parents,
Speaker 1: but you just have to be mindful. No one is
Speaker 1: exempt from being scammed on the internet.
Speaker 2: I know it feels like I'm getting scammed every day
Speaker 2: because money is draining out of my account and putting
Speaker 2: into my house.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, don't even like we're finally just like we
Speaker 1: got to assess this person. But this LED thing, it
Speaker 1: is like an animal, all of it. So it's to
Speaker 1: the point now where honestly Superman is going to take
Speaker 1: a class. Our project manager was like, you know, I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to be certified to He's going to take
Speaker 1: the class too, because you know Superman does that would
Speaker 1: not lead, but he does like I don't know, super
Speaker 1: stuff for the city.
Speaker 2: He does like house stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's like as a job. But he's just
Speaker 1: never been like certified in like lead removal. So they're
Speaker 1: both going to now that they have a romance going
Speaker 1: on because him and our project manager, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like we love the project manager and his wife. They're like, amazing,
Speaker 1: who's the designer, and so they're like our real friends now,
Speaker 1: and so they're like, you know, let's just take the
Speaker 1: lead removal class. It's three hours and because we don't
Speaker 1: have that much honestly, it's just some chemical thing that
Speaker 1: you painted on paint on the lead, covered with plastic
Speaker 1: and then peel it off. And so instead of because
Speaker 1: he's with paint, yeah, it's in the paint because of
Speaker 1: the age of the house, like it's been painted over,
Speaker 1: like you know, certain parts of the would have been
Speaker 1: painted over over and over again, and during certain periods
Speaker 1: in history, like you know, the seventies or sixties or
Speaker 1: the forties or whatever. Because the house was built in
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, lead paint was fine and it leads through
Speaker 1: the paint on top, and so there are certain areas
Speaker 1: of the house where that's happened. So we're going to
Speaker 1: remove it. And people were charging we're trying to charge
Speaker 1: upwards of thirty thousand dollars and.
Speaker 2: That was like one thousand dollars yes.
Speaker 1: Because they were like, oh, well, you know, you guys
Speaker 1: have a lot of wood in here. We're like, well,
Speaker 1: like yeah, but all of it doesn't have lead, and
Speaker 1: it just mean that was like the that was someone
Speaker 1: who had not seen the house. That was someone who
Speaker 1: was just kind of like reading the report. It was
Speaker 1: like it couldn't be anywhere upwards to eight thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, you know what. And then
Speaker 1: we actually had some really great contractors come by and
Speaker 1: or like lead abatement folks come by and they were like, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's not even that much. You guys could do this yourself.
Speaker 1: There's literally a class of a couple of hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: and it'll be cheaper, and it's good for you to learn,
Speaker 1: if you guys, if your husband is trying to be
Speaker 1: you know, like do more and more houses. So so
Speaker 1: that's what we just decided that it'll be way cheaper
Speaker 1: to just for him to learn and to to do
Speaker 1: it ourselves. It will cost us maybe like a few
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. And because it's not that we don't have
Speaker 1: that much. It's like, you know, a few windowsills and
Speaker 1: some baseboard. So it just needs to be the chemicals
Speaker 1: just need to be painted on, sat there for twenty
Speaker 1: four hours and then literally peeled off and like saying
Speaker 1: it and then just repainted with whatever paint that we want.
Speaker 1: So because we've been dragging, not dragging our feet, but
Speaker 1: I am not looking forward to actually working with like
Speaker 1: the actual contractor if it's going to be like this,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, what we're not we haven't made any movement.
Speaker 1: What's happening? Yeah? Oh man, I know, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, Hey, we waited six months
Speaker 1: just to close, so you know what. At this point,
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that we have a house.
Speaker 2: And it's cool that that's a good idea, like learning
Speaker 2: how to do it yourself if it's not that big
Speaker 2: of a but that's that's the hard part, is like
Speaker 2: what can we do ourselves? I came home from my
Speaker 2: so this weekend I went to a bachelorette and it
Speaker 2: was super fun. Side note though, I came back and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, how exciting. There's like a we've moved
Speaker 2: into our house and realized that there is no three
Speaker 2: prong outlets anywhere. It's an older house, and I guess
Speaker 2: I wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's true they didn't have Apple MacBook charges
Speaker 2: back then, but it was an issue because you couldn't
Speaker 2: charge like our laptop or our put our TV in
Speaker 2: the wall or whatever. And I knew that my husband
Speaker 2: had set up the electrician to come put a couple
Speaker 2: of outlets, and then I came home and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's like an extra outlet here. That's cool, and that
Speaker 2: bool did it himself. And I said, that's not a
Speaker 2: DIY project.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, electricity is not. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's like, but I watched and he you know, he
Speaker 2: watches all these YouTube videos, and I know that he
Speaker 2: shadowed the electrician while he was doing it. And my
Speaker 2: husband's very talented and handy, but I was like, can
Speaker 2: you please at least have someone here to spot you
Speaker 2: while you're doing electrical work. He didn't have anybody there,
Speaker 2: Like what if he electricated himself. I wasn't at home.
Speaker 2: There's this I feel like that's the HGTV, like I know, syndrome,
Speaker 2: syndrome or like, yeah, this whole movement of people trying
Speaker 2: to do themselves, like no, no, no, no, no, we're
Speaker 2: gonna sometimes it's worth the money. It was only thirty
Speaker 2: five dollars to have him add one more outlet. I
Speaker 2: think he really just wanted to figure out how to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Which is cool, but don't die. So I told like
Speaker 1: I told Superman. I said, like, there's a few things
Speaker 1: I don't mind you and the guy's doing like the
Speaker 1: lead thing. I honestly I don't mind because even for work,
Speaker 1: like when they do certain things they use like well
Speaker 1: he has like a respirator mat, so he has all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I'm like, I don't mind electricity, I told him,
Speaker 1: because we have to get the house rewired. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: Chico in them are not doing our electric do you
Speaker 1: want to die? No, we're not letting. He actually does
Speaker 1: have a friend n Chico. He's like, oh, Chico could
Speaker 1: do that. I'm like, no, resetting the floor, fine, painting, okay,
Speaker 1: you know stuff like that, even like patching some walls. Great,
Speaker 1: But I told him, like, we're not having somebody ran
Speaker 1: to rewire our house where we have to live and
Speaker 1: worry about if a fire starts inside the in the wall,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I mean it's an interesting journey,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it'll be much faster next time
Speaker 1: we get a house, like when we get like our
Speaker 1: next property. But this is definitely a learning curve that's
Speaker 1: like where I'm so out of my element because I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know anything, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel open to being taking advantage of. But thankfully we
Speaker 1: have like you know, like our mentors. But it still
Speaker 1: still feels like, oh my gosh. Every time we meet
Speaker 1: with the professional, everyone else has, everyone has a new
Speaker 1: story to tell, you know, like, oh, you know, what
Speaker 1: you need to do is you're corporator, your operator, it's
Speaker 1: in the infiltrator and you're like, I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that leads it perfectly into brown break. Brown breaks.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do boost or break? Well, clearly you
Speaker 1: know I'm breaking because I just did a brown break song.
Speaker 2: I's gonna say it's only one option.
Speaker 1: No, I forgot. I'm like, oh what a brown break
Speaker 1: from the word asbestos and the word lead and also
Speaker 1: the word abatement. I'm like, I'm over that. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: just that's just a quick round break. Because I realized though,
Speaker 1: like you know, I keep telling myself, by the end
Speaker 1: of the year, you're going to walk into the house
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, I love my house. But until then,
Speaker 1: it's just just a lot And I'm learning. I'm learning.
Speaker 1: I'm learning, which is good, but I just need a
Speaker 1: break from those words, like literally every like after working
Speaker 1: hard on the Budginisa and the Academy and everything else,
Speaker 1: and then Superman comes home from work and then you know,
Speaker 1: we have dinner or whatever, and then he wants to
Speaker 1: talk about the house. I'm like, honestly, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm like, whatever you decide, I don't even care anymore.
Speaker 1: He's like tired. I'm like, yes, I'm tired. I'm tired
Speaker 1: every week. And it's like we lived there, but we
Speaker 1: don't live there. So I'm just taking a little bit
Speaker 1: of a brown break from those three words abatement, lead,
Speaker 1: and asbestos.
Speaker 2: I was hoping somewhere in there I was going to
Speaker 2: find a casual segue into baby news because I believe
Speaker 2: last week that we might be getting an update.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, I just said a quick update is that yes,
Speaker 1: we could start trying. I am so I didn't I
Speaker 1: don't think I shared it last time, but I have
Speaker 1: to get a second which I was like, oh yay,
Speaker 1: And it was a maybe like a month ago. So
Speaker 1: I went back to the doctor. You know, I had
Speaker 1: my first surgery, which is when they actually like basically
Speaker 1: it's like a a cesarean no a C section where
Speaker 1: it's like they had to remove the actual five words
Speaker 1: like cut me open and remove them. And that was
Speaker 1: like four weeks recovery three of I mean six official,
Speaker 1: but really like three or four weeks. I was like
Speaker 1: back to normal. And then I was like, yeah, I'm good,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, I wanted you to go
Speaker 1: for this thing, this ink test where they like squirt
Speaker 1: ink in you to see if your tubes are open.
Speaker 1: And she's like, yay, So good news is your tubes
Speaker 1: are open. Bad news is we see another fiboid. I
Speaker 1: was like, you've got to be kidding me, gosh, yeah,
Speaker 1: and she was like yeah. And then there's some scar
Speaker 1: tissue from when we removed some of these fribordes from before,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, she's like, so you have
Speaker 1: to have another surgery. I looked at her like are
Speaker 1: you insane? What does that even mean? But thankfully this
Speaker 1: surgery was like really non invasive. It was a one
Speaker 1: day recovery, like literally twenty four hours, and if you
Speaker 1: could even call it that, I was home and like
Speaker 1: ready to go, and so it was. And so I
Speaker 1: just got cleared from her and she said, you are
Speaker 1: ready to go, tiffany clean bill of health, you and
Speaker 1: superan kid, go go go. And I was like, we're
Speaker 1: coming from your like you're older, you're older obgyn. So yes,
Speaker 1: we are clear to ready to try. I mean, you
Speaker 1: never know. And so the thing is, so I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 1: So she said she wants us to try naturally for
Speaker 1: six months and then if no baby, then then we
Speaker 1: want to try. And then she said, then we'll try
Speaker 1: fertility options, so we shall see. You know, I never
Speaker 1: it's crazy about having kids. You never think. You just
Speaker 1: think like, well, of course I'm going to be able
Speaker 1: to have kids, like that's what women do. So this
Speaker 1: has just opened my eyes to what's you know, how
Speaker 1: hard it can be or it's just it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: mean that you're able or yeah, I mean like my
Speaker 1: sister got pregnant on her wedding night, literally and then
Speaker 1: she's got pregnant again right after that, and then my
Speaker 1: mom had trouble. She said, I didn't know because my
Speaker 1: mom has five kids, said I know she's super fertile,
Speaker 1: and she was like, uh no, it took me a
Speaker 1: couple of years before your sister, your first sister came
Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, I didn't know, so you just
Speaker 1: never know. But yeah, so that was just the update
Speaker 1: that I can try. So I appreciate your love and
Speaker 1: your your baby dust sprinkling in the air. You guys
Speaker 1: always send me great encouragement. So yes, please say an
Speaker 1: extra prayer for super baby. Prayerfully, and we'll be on
Speaker 1: the way by the end of this year.
Speaker 2: I have something to share. One of our listeners actually
Speaker 2: sent us a message on Facebook for because I know
Speaker 2: before you talked about wanting twins, right, do you still
Speaker 2: want twins?
Speaker 1: I mean I could do twins.
Speaker 2: You're just trying to be efficient about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, honestly, I am so.
Speaker 2: One of our Facebook one of our listeners on Facebook said,
Speaker 2: for twins, you should start eating lots of yams and
Speaker 2: sweet potatoes, although I think those are the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's up for debate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is up for de baby.
Speaker 2: Yes, thanks Crystal. I don't know. She doesn't say why
Speaker 2: sweet potatoes and yams, but hey, you're vegan and that's
Speaker 2: on the menu, so okay, hook it up. It's nerve
Speaker 2: wracking to think that it's nerve. I feel like what's
Speaker 2: challenging is that right now we're in an age where
Speaker 2: you know you made to think, Okay, be strategic about
Speaker 2: your career, plan everything out. Your finance is, you're in
Speaker 2: control your career in you're in control, plan make it,
Speaker 2: set yourself up for success, and don't turn down opportunities.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about women especially, Yes, and then you do
Speaker 2: everything right and then by you know, naturally you're in
Speaker 2: your thirties when you start thinking about having kids, or
Speaker 2: your late thirties or early forties, and then oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't really have it all because there's this thing
Speaker 2: called biology and she just fucks with you sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's not fair. It's so frustrating. So I'm really
Speaker 2: just glad that you're sharing your story because I know
Speaker 2: that you're not the only one out there who's going
Speaker 2: through that. And it's not even about career, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to at all shame people. It's not
Speaker 2: about career or even being ambitious. Sometimes sometimes your body
Speaker 2: just you know, it just is your body. You don't
Speaker 2: have all the working elements that you thought you had
Speaker 2: until you finally start to try, or you just don't
Speaker 2: meet the right person exactly.
Speaker 1: Or like I know, a couple like a friend of
Speaker 1: mine who's a guy. I just always assume because he
Speaker 1: and his wife travel a lot, and they're young, they're
Speaker 1: in their thirties, and I just assume, like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: the young, hot and popping couple. They must not want kids.
Speaker 1: They didn't strike me as a kid wanting type. And
Speaker 1: he hit me up and he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm praying for you and your husband. Me and my
Speaker 1: wife has been trying for years, and he's like, we've
Speaker 1: been to every doctor and nothing's wrong with us. And
Speaker 1: I was like, why, I didn't know. You never know,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, I thought that they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not trying to have no kids. They're
Speaker 1: in a different country every other month. They live it up.
Speaker 1: And no, He's like, we do, and they cannot figure out,
Speaker 1: like why she doesn't have fibroids. She doesn't, her tubes
Speaker 1: are open, she's got enough eggs, his sperm is strong,
Speaker 1: like you know, and so you just, yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason. Sometimes I mean, sometimes you know and
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't. And I mean I know somebody who
Speaker 1: was like she literally like had like one ovary and
Speaker 1: it was halfway working, and she's got two kids. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean that the part that's hard because
Speaker 1: in every other aspect of my life, I know that
Speaker 1: if I put in the work, I can get what
Speaker 1: I want. You know, like how hard are you willing
Speaker 1: to work for Tiffany? And this is one of those
Speaker 1: things that, yes, there is some work for me to
Speaker 1: put in, Like I went vegan, I got these surgeries.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm eating better, you know, but past that,
Speaker 1: I can't do anything else, you know. So it's frustrating
Speaker 1: because there's no there's nothing, you know, like, no matter
Speaker 1: how much work I put in, there's still the possibility
Speaker 1: that I just I'm just not able for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: you know. So I mean I'm still like, I still
Speaker 1: have time. So I honestly don't feel hopeful. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like hopeless. I know some people like I guess
Speaker 1: it's the beginning of my journey. So it's still really early.
Speaker 1: Like I really just started, you know, this journey in January,
Speaker 1: So it's still really early for me. So I'm still
Speaker 1: feeling like, yeah, it's happening, but you never know if
Speaker 1: it doesn't. I mean, thankfully, you know, Superman and I
Speaker 1: have the means if we want to adopt which He's
Speaker 1: totally open to we can. He's just been awesome, like, well,
Speaker 1: whatever you want, babe, Like you know he would want
Speaker 1: at least he would love of two more kids. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Look we don't get these twins the first
Speaker 1: time around. I don't know, but we'll see. I'm open
Speaker 1: to it though, because I feel like I'm in a
Speaker 1: space now where you know, there there's more to life
Speaker 1: than than business and growth and finances and you know,
Speaker 1: and I just seeing how my parents get older, their
Speaker 1: joy they get from the fact that they have us kids.
Speaker 2: I want that too, you know, you know, I feel
Speaker 2: I have good vibes me sending you extra baby dust.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep a little for myself. I might need it.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure when Boma need it sometimes. So my
Speaker 2: brown boost, I want to do it. Well, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to do a double. A brown is kind of
Speaker 2: a two sided brown break. So my brown break is
Speaker 2: the conversation around pay equality. So the pay gap, the
Speaker 2: gender page gap. We always talk about how women we
Speaker 2: all know the statistic. I mean, it's like it's so
Speaker 2: you know, we say it all the time. Women earn
Speaker 2: eighty cents a dollar when you break it down by minority,
Speaker 2: it's even less to white men. And where that conversation
Speaker 2: usually leads is to advice for women on how they
Speaker 2: what they should be doing to earn more money, or
Speaker 2: how they should be negotiating better in the workplace, and
Speaker 2: what the women can do. And I'm kind of and
Speaker 2: I'm kind of low key sick of this conversation because
Speaker 2: I feel like it unfairly puts the pressure on the
Speaker 2: woman to get herself an equal pay, like get herself
Speaker 2: equal pay on the job. And my position has been
Speaker 2: for a long time that the employer itself or whoever
Speaker 2: it is, like, the person who's managing the project has
Speaker 2: the budget, whether you're a freelancer, a full time whoever,
Speaker 2: that they are thinking about. Am I paying people fairly
Speaker 2: and looking at this person's resume comparing it to someone
Speaker 2: similar on our staff, why is it that he or
Speaker 2: she is earning more or less. I don't think that
Speaker 2: there's enough pressure on management to make that those types
Speaker 2: of calls, and I wish that there was more Earlier today,
Speaker 2: I saw this the headline that you know the crown
Speaker 2: that was one of the more more recent like public
Speaker 2: kind of embarrassing things where they found We found out
Speaker 2: that that show The Crown on Netflix, the main actress, Clairefoy,
Speaker 2: who plays Queen Elizabeth, was paid significantly less than her
Speaker 2: male co star, who is like a supporting actor and
Speaker 2: is not in you know, she's in basically every single
Speaker 2: scene and has been nominated for awards in YadA YadA.
Speaker 2: So it came out that she made like hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars less than him, even though they're on
Speaker 2: the same show and she does way more. And then
Speaker 2: today this has been like weeks later, they announced that
Speaker 2: she's going to receive two hundred and seventy five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars in back pay after all the controversy to basically
Speaker 2: like make her even with what I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's basically to make her even with this guy, right,
Speaker 2: So for me, that shows like it's not her fault
Speaker 2: that she was making less, you know, it's why did
Speaker 2: that company or Netflix or whoever, why did they decide
Speaker 2: they were the ones who decided that you deserve less
Speaker 2: than this guy? Like why weren't there Why wasn't there
Speaker 2: more discussion around them? And I just feel like so
Speaker 2: often we are almost victim shaming not that you know, victim.
Speaker 2: I don't want to throw with a word victim around,
Speaker 2: but like shaming the woman for not doing more, you know,
Speaker 2: go into an interview and talk tough and read these
Speaker 2: tips on how to negotiate. And I'm taking some of
Speaker 2: the blame here because I've written some of those articles
Speaker 2: and it's helpful to know and understand understand what makes
Speaker 2: what makes a good negotiation. But I, and especially in
Speaker 2: my role as a manager, I take it upon my
Speaker 2: damn self to make sure that I'm paying people equally.
Speaker 2: And I just did I do. I manage a lot
Speaker 2: of freelancers, for example, like a lot of freelance writers,
Speaker 2: and one of the recent one of the things I
Speaker 2: do every month is take a look at because I
Speaker 2: do pay my top tier writers more than the others.
Speaker 2: And I realized this month one of the writers who
Speaker 2: I constantly go too because she's super reliable, is not
Speaker 2: in the highest pay grade. And I'm not waiting for
Speaker 2: her to ask me to give her more money. While
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people would do that, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it makes no sense why she is making less than
Speaker 2: these other top tier people. She deserves to be in
Speaker 2: this in this in this group. And hell, like if I,
Speaker 2: if I bump her into this group, maybe she'll want
Speaker 2: to write more for us. And of course I you know,
Speaker 2: I just did it and I sent her an email saying, hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, I gave you a pay pay raise, congrats,
Speaker 2: you know, because I could do it. And it's not
Speaker 2: like I don't have the money to not do it that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just you have to take the time
Speaker 2: and think about that. So that's my my my break
Speaker 2: for putting too much of the onus on women too
Speaker 2: to uh to earn more. And you know, like studies
Speaker 2: show that you can be you're judged more harshly as
Speaker 2: a woman if you're like a tough negotiator, you know,
Speaker 2: so damned if you do, damned if you don't. Sometimes, well,
Speaker 2: let's move on to some questions. What's your and you
Speaker 2: guys please send us your questions. You can hit us
Speaker 2: up at bron Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com to
Speaker 2: send us a question directly or leave us go to
Speaker 2: our website Brian Ambition podcast dot com and ask us
Speaker 2: a question on the site as well. The meilbox this
Speaker 2: week was a little thin, you guys, And I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of sad for me. Love our questions. Hold on,
Speaker 2: I accidentally minimize the box.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely asked because we do really love honestly answering
Speaker 1: you guys this questions. And when you ask a question,
Speaker 1: there's always somebody out there in the audience it's like, well,
Speaker 1: me too, me too, Thank you for asking that.
Speaker 2: Do you have to pay like five hundred dollars to
Speaker 2: the me too movement whenever you say me too?
Speaker 1: Now? I know, I do know, I don't know. Ah,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Running a business. I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about like a trademarking stuff. There was stuff that like
Speaker 1: I need to trademark, and you're like, everything is just
Speaker 1: so pricey. You know. I'll tell you a little secret, like,
Speaker 1: now that I've locked it down, why did I lose
Speaker 1: the trademark to the budgetiese. No, but it's okay for
Speaker 1: those of you listening, I have it back, okay, because
Speaker 1: I was like, I was not going to say it
Speaker 1: obviously until I had it back, because so I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm good. So I didn't. It was a mistake. I
Speaker 1: thought trademarks lasted ten years, and they do, but you
Speaker 1: have to like renew it after the first five and
Speaker 1: then it last ten. But I didn't know that and
Speaker 1: all my stuff, like I don't know where they were
Speaker 1: sending the mail to. It wasn't until like a bunch
Speaker 1: of lawyers kept calling me asking me like, hey, would
Speaker 1: you like to something like get back to the budget
Speaker 1: needs to trademark. I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I owned the trademarkets. I only been back years and
Speaker 1: I looked. I was like, oh, maybe I don't so
Speaker 1: this was this happened last year because it takes about
Speaker 1: I want to say, six to twelve months for the
Speaker 1: whole process, so I had to reapply. I actually used
Speaker 1: legal Zoom and it was super easy. I had to
Speaker 1: reapply and I got it back. But I was like,
Speaker 1: oh MG, can you.
Speaker 2: Imagine I'm stressed out just thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I was spending bullets like I would say, like maybe
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, I got the I got the
Speaker 1: trademark paper in the midil like, hey, Tippy, the budget
Speaker 1: needsa belongs to you again. Oh my god. So trademark
Speaker 1: your stuff, guys, it's worth it. And legal Zoom, you know,
Speaker 1: although it's not great for everything, it's definitely what made
Speaker 1: it made that process easier.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, good poof. And by the way, Brian
Speaker 2: Ambish's trademark don't try us, Yeah, don't don't try us. Okay,
Speaker 2: here's a question from listener. Let me see if she
Speaker 2: wants me to say her name out loud. She doesn't
Speaker 2: say not to okay listener Marnie, She says, Hey, ladies.
Speaker 2: First off, I love your podcast. It's been really helpful
Speaker 2: as I begin to plan out my financial future and
Speaker 2: take the appropriate steps. I just started a new job
Speaker 2: and my company doesn't allow me to contribute to a
Speaker 2: four to one K until after the first year. I
Speaker 2: researched and I found out I could invest in a
Speaker 2: regular IRA, but my maximum contribution each year would just
Speaker 2: be six thousand dollars versus eighteen thousand, five hundred dollars
Speaker 2: in a four to one K. I'm currently making forty
Speaker 2: nine thousand dollars a year. What do you recommend as
Speaker 2: the best step to maximize my retirement investment while I
Speaker 2: wait out this year? I don't even know you make
Speaker 2: forty nine thousand dollars a year. I don't even think
Speaker 2: that you would realistically be able to get to eighteen thousand,
Speaker 2: five hundred based on that salary. Unless you're living at
Speaker 2: home and you have no expenses, I think that you'll
Speaker 2: be fine just investing in a regular IRA or even
Speaker 2: you don't mention it or not, but I'm hoping this
Speaker 2: means that you have a savings account emergency savings fun
Speaker 2: on the side. If you don't, I would say focus
Speaker 2: on building that up your first year. If anything, you're
Speaker 2: only making forty nine thousand dollars a year, so it
Speaker 2: may take you a little bit of time just to
Speaker 2: get to you know, the recommended like three to six
Speaker 2: months worth of savings on the side, and then once
Speaker 2: the year is up, then you're you know, you're kind
Speaker 2: of ready and you can start contributing to that, to
Speaker 2: that four one K.
Speaker 1: And also too, like I think sometimes like even if
Speaker 1: it's not your retirement fund, it doesn't mean that you
Speaker 1: can't set aside money like you know, and be just
Speaker 1: investing for wealth. You know, so yes, you're not going
Speaker 1: to get the tax benefit, but there's still a benefit
Speaker 1: for investing for wealth. So like Mandy said, you're you're
Speaker 1: unlikely to max out at eighteen thousand dollars, but you know,
Speaker 1: on the off chance, just in general, knowing that retirement
Speaker 1: is not the only way to invest if you're limited
Speaker 1: in that way. You know, I have an account to
Speaker 1: invest for wealth, and I have a portfolio to invest
Speaker 1: for retirement, and both of those things are useful and good.
Speaker 1: Absolutely maybe knowing stuff.
Speaker 2: But good that you're getting started. Believe me, it's not
Speaker 2: easy to get to eighteen thousand, five hundred when you
Speaker 2: consider like all your other expenses and stuff. And just
Speaker 2: to be clear, the to a limit on IRA contributions
Speaker 2: is five five hundred dollars and she puts six thousand
Speaker 2: in her message, but just so you know, we got
Speaker 2: it right, and it's a little bit it's a little
Speaker 2: bit higher. If you're age fifty year older is sixty
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars. FYI, all right, thanks for your question,
Speaker 2: miss Marnie.
Speaker 1: I know I wanted to just end with social media time,
Speaker 1: so let's get socioed. We'll have to figure out a
Speaker 1: name for it. So you guys know that we have
Speaker 1: an Instagram and our Instagram page is Manby.
Speaker 2: At Brown Enviition Podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 1: So actually I'm gonna head over there now and I'm
Speaker 1: going to give somebody a little shout out, so we
Speaker 1: would love if under our most recent picture on Brown
Speaker 1: Ambition that you you know, you can ask a question,
Speaker 1: you could share some feedback. We're really just trying to
Speaker 1: get you know, our social pop in a little bit.
Speaker 1: If you're not following us, you played yourself. No seriously.
Speaker 1: So this comment is from Amelia and her Instagram name
Speaker 1: is Emmy Marie B and she says, one of my
Speaker 1: Peruvian cousins died of a brain aneurysm at age fifteen. Wow,
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. I definitely didn't know how much. I
Speaker 1: didn't know much about that either. Didn't the budget Lisa's
Speaker 1: husband survive one? Yes, he well he didn't. It didn't burst,
Speaker 1: but he had one. Thanks for getting the word out.
Speaker 1: Ba oh, thank you Emmy. Yeah, that last episode with
Speaker 1: Sharon Eperson sharing how she survived her brain andurism, which
Speaker 1: is honestly very It's not common to survive and then
Speaker 1: to survive and to go back to the same kind
Speaker 1: of like mental capacity that you had before. It's like
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of people survived and then another fifteen percent
Speaker 1: of those people actually are the same. So that was
Speaker 1: an awesome episode and thank you. So if you guys
Speaker 1: you know, want us to shout you out on the
Speaker 1: end of our next Brandabision episode. Head over to Instagram
Speaker 1: and say something on one of our posts. You never
Speaker 1: know we might see you.
Speaker 2: Say something nice, yes, story, tell us what your win is.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do a better job posting, but really
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys following us. And thank you to Amelia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you Emilia. I actually really liked that name too.
Speaker 1: That's my that's my Nasty Clues name. But she has
Speaker 1: it with it. But I forgive you on that now,
Speaker 1: see you next
Speaker 2: Week, See you next week.