1 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Well, well, well look at us both in Nashville. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Hi, I mean it's snowing today. 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Okay, he's corrumpting today. I mean, this is the this 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: is the wild part of the year for Nashville, I feel, 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: is what I was going to say, weatherwise, But I 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: think it's kind of just always like that now, Like 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: my boyfriend is always commenting on the wild weather we have, 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: like it's so up and down. When it's gorgeous, it's 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: gorgeous here, it's it doesn't get all Yeah, it's just amazing. 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Or when like this week last week we had about 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: like seventy degrees in Sunday, Sunday sunny, This is gonna 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: be a wild one. 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: Be a little chilly at night too, like not like 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: cold care. 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I felt like I was in California, 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: you know. And then yesterday it basically he gets up 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: to eighty degrees and then you wake up today and 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: it's thirty degrees. So all of us have knowing it's snowing, 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: so all of us have these terrible headaches all day. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: My allergies have been going crazy for a week. It's 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: just like, no wonder we can't get shit done sometimes, you. 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I wonder if like plants, and because like 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: I can see my neighbors, I don't know what kind 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: of tree it is, but it's like in bloom. I 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: wonder if like this freeze will kill it. 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully not, because it's only a couple of days and 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: then we get warm again and then we get cold again. 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: So just brace yourself for impact of this wild ride 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: that we're about to go on for Nashville spring. I 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: wonder how the rest of the country is doing. I 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: don't know, but there's craziness everywhere. So this is just 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: some of ours today. 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: We didn't have a big tornado last night, even though 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: I thought we were. 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: I was grateful. I was very grateful for that. So 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: on Wednesday I was just telling Chip about where we 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: were talking about the Wednesday podcast with chef Chuck Hayworth, 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: and you know, he was such a likable guy. He 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and I ended up just having a conversation that felt 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: more like what I would have with you, just kind 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: of like a friendly He was filling me in on 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: what happened his story and what he does with it now. 43 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I love a story that goes from 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: like takes the pain and goes into purpose, Like I 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: think that that's what we're all here for. So if 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: you can do that, I think it's an amazing gift 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: to give to others. And he is the perfect example 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: of that. He was a chef and was a chef 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: from like or started in the food industry at like 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: the age of fourteen, I think he said, and got 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: diagnosed very early twenties with stomach cancer. And I'm like, 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: tell me a first cancer for a chef exactly. And 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: he describes it as though the food industry, the food 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: and beverage industry. I think most of us know this 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: is kind of a it's a tough life, like it 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit chip of road life, like 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: what we describe as like when people are on tour 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: with an act and you're not sleeping very much because 59 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: you're living on a tour of us, You're eating shitty food, 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: you're not really able to work out unless you really 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: prioritize it, like and the stress is just high, like 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: it just I don't know when he was describing it, 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, that sounds a lot like road life. 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: It's also like the bulk of your job is at night, 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: but you're doing prep stuff during the time, so it's 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: like the hours are really inconsistent, you work different days 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: of the week. 68 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, your throat, you know what it is when you're 69 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: on the go and you're just grabbing food to survive 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And he said that he was like, 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: I was just living such a hard life that when 72 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: this happened, it wasn't that surprising to me because I 73 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: knew I had been abusing my body, except for the 74 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: fact that I was so young. And then I had 75 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: to totally rethink my life. Like he had so much 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: of his esophagus just completely cut out and removed, like 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: that was how they dealt with it. And so when 78 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: he's talking about it, you know that was a really 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: really difficult part of his life. He obviously for two 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: or three years was on a liquid diet, couldn't even 81 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: eat food. So just I mean for a chef, Yeah, 82 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, it's like you. 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: Got to be able to taste your stuff. 84 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: It would be a lot for anyone, but it'd be 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: really hard for someone in that industry. But or however, 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: he has now been able to turn that into helping 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: others with that, so he through that whole process started 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: in these like not self help groups, but communities for 89 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: cancer patients, you know, just that you can like go 90 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: understand you're not the only one going through this, and 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: support groups. That's the word I was looking for. Wow, God, sorry, y'all. 92 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: He was in these support groups and finding other people 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: who just didn't know how to help their bodies while 94 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: they're going through all these cancer treatments, or they didn't 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: have an appetite so they didn't know what to eat, 96 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and then they weren't getting the nutrients they need. You know, 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: it's a very specific type of food diet lifestyle that 98 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: you need to change into once you've gone through something 99 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: like that. However, it's also what I always say about 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: he's using food as medicine and like really using it 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: to support your body as it heals. And so now 102 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: he has a whole business called medical Meals where he 103 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: does that for people who are going through different kinds 104 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: of I think he talked about cancer, autoimmune and he 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: teaches them how to eat for that disease, which I 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: think is just such a beautiful way to take his 107 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: pain turn it into purpose, help other people. All of 108 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: those things. 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm like sitting here thinking, I obviously don't want any 110 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: like I don't need a disease bestowed upon me, but 111 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: like I wish that there was a way for me 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: to reprogram my brain to think about food as simply 113 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: fuel and not like as a gathering thing or as 114 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: a crutch or you know, yeah, for a blanket. 115 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: That makes sense because. 116 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't have a great relationship with it, and I 117 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: feel like it takes something. You know, I take for 118 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: granted that my body like still doesn't hate me so 119 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: much even though I don't treat it great. And you know, 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: the last thing any of us want is to have 121 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: to face death in order to make the changes that 122 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: we need in order to live healthy life it but 123 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: I think more times than not, that's the path that 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: we take as we keep going into our body. Says like, 125 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: I don't. 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Think so yeah, So, I mean, I think all of 127 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: us are better when we get the wake up calls. 128 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: And it's that kind of thing which is sort of 129 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: what we wanted to talk about today, but where you 130 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: don't really realize all that your body is doing on 131 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: a daily basis, like I never do, and then things 132 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: like last year when I threw out my back, I'm like, 133 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, my back is a part of every 134 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: single movement that I. 135 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: Do on a day to day, every sneeze. 136 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you really don't appreciate every muscle in your back 137 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: until you can't use your back and you can't get 138 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: out of bed. And you know, I think that happens 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: with all of us and all things. So, like you said, 140 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to have to get to that place, 141 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: but having conversations like I had with Chuck kind of 142 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: sent me into that way up call and he has 143 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: such the mentality of like, I know the reason I 144 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: got that cancer is because this put me on the 145 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: path that my soul is here to do and to 146 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: help educate people about how to eat. And what we 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: were talking about was it's such an interesting thing with 148 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: food because we've all had our different programming around it, right, 149 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Like we grew up a certain way with food, and 150 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I grew up in a household where my mom and 151 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: dad did eat really healthy and so it's kind of interesting. 152 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Do you think like I crave healthy, Like that's the 153 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: stuff that I crave because I know how it makes 154 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: my body feel. I also know there's ways that you 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: can cook real food and make it really delicious. But 156 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: we're not always taught that, And so if you're taught 157 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: to you know, do I mean, I'm from Louisiana. It's 158 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: not like cooking down there as healthy, right, So, like 159 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: if you're just taught on how to make crawfichet tu 160 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: fe the way that you know your great grandmother did 161 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: or whatever, those ingredients probably aren't that great anymore in 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: this world, Like we've put so much processed junk into 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: all our food that like you have to be really 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: aware of stuff like that. But you can do spins 165 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: on different meals and make them just as delicious. And 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: that's what he tries to do with all his recipes, 167 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: with the meals he's creating. He's a private chef as well, 168 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: so he's doing that constantly. But he's he's talking about 169 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: like eating seasonally, like going out and picking the vegetables 170 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: that are ripe now, not just going to the grocery 171 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: store and buying all these foods that are not in season, 172 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: because that's the ones that are going to be so processed, 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: you know. And that triggered something in my brain like 174 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, right, that's why I want to eat watermelon 175 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: in the summer because it's actually in season. So it's 176 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: better just so it's just like small little switches. But 177 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: he was like a wealth of information about that, and 178 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: I do think it's possible to change the way you 179 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: eat and still really enjoy food and eat real food 180 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: that's good for you. 181 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think my struggle with it is is I 182 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: always wanted to be fast and not like that. I 183 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: always want fast food. The whole process of having to 184 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: go to the grocery store and then cook something and 185 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: then clean up after it, after you've eaten, Like I 186 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: haven't given that enough like credence like that that should 187 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: be me time. Yeah, And I leave food to an afterthought, 188 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: so which then makes me want to just order something 189 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: and I don't know what ingredients are in it, or 190 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: the portions are too big or whatever it is. 191 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's a stressful thing about eating out. And 192 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about that because especially with like 193 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: mass production of food and needing it quick, like even 194 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: at restaurants, they're just trying to get people in and 195 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: out too, so they're trying to produce on a quick basis, 196 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: and that's not always what's best for our bodies, you know. 197 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know those kind of things are really 198 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: interesting to think about with food. But during my entire 199 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: conversation with him, just energetically, even in his positivity, and 200 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: he was even talking about how he met his wife 201 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: and the way he met her felt like it was 202 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: in relation to getting this diagnosis and like overcoming cancer. 203 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just sends me back on that 204 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: thing of like one we never know what the universe 205 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: is up to as far as like our life direction 206 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: or soul path or anything like that. Of when you're 207 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: going through something hard, sometimes it really is helpful to remember, 208 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: like you don't know the direction this is going to 209 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: take you, so don't always assume it's the worst thing ever. 210 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: That's not trying to downplay anyone's pain, but I always 211 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: do that, like I'll never survive this breakup, and then 212 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: it's like the best thing that ever happened that I 213 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: got through, you know. And then also just not taking 214 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: things for granted, Like when we're getting up in the morning. 215 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: This is a new ritual I've started to try to 216 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: do what it's like before I get running in my 217 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: day or pick up my phone, I try to do 218 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: either a gratitude list or small meditation to just be like, 219 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm thankful I woke up today, the sun 220 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: came up with like finding the small gratitudes and like 221 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: being present in those because we're all going so much 222 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: all the time, and you just don't think about that 223 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: until you face something really difficult. 224 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in a really good flow of doing 225 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: a gratitude journal last year and I've sort of fallen 226 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: out of it. I think one of the things that 227 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: I struggle with is I feel like I need to 228 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: be creative every morning versus it literally being like I'm 229 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: glad I woke up. I'm glad my dogs woke up. 230 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm glad I get another day to do, you know, Like. 231 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: It could be that every day. 232 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: And that's like, but I all opened my journal, I'll 233 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: be like, I got to think of something different today, 234 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, why am I challenging myself to like 235 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: be creative in a journal that no one else is 236 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: going to read. It's so you to do, I know, 237 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: And then I don't do it because it's like this 238 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: like the perfectionist in me that wants to be better 239 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: than everyone else at journaling. Like what, it's not. 240 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: A prize, there's no gold medal for being a good journaler. 241 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Right, So I need to just bite the bullet, because 242 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: it is like when I was in that flow, my 243 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: mornings were so amazing. Like now I feel like I 244 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: just get up and I start looking at my phone 245 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: and then my day's gotten away from me already. 246 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: My stress is just higher when I do that. 247 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it makes all your cortisol and everything 248 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: like just go flying right out of the gate. And 249 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: it's like I haven't had breakfast yet, I haven't had coffee, 250 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: like I haven't even like taken any deep breaths, and 251 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: suddenly I'm like stressed about something that I have to 252 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: get done that day, or something that I didn't get 253 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: done the day before or whatever it is. 254 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel this way? I have been thinking to 255 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: myself because like if I wake up especially and I 256 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: have text messages either from the night before or because 257 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: I've been trying to put my phone away fat like earlier, 258 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: and then also not pick it up as fast in 259 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: the morning, but I'll find like my body is like 260 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: reacting a little bit now because it's gotten more used 261 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: to that, and so it's like a like a panic 262 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: get a text or just when I first and if 263 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I try to do the phone thing I start to 264 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: feel now, like I feel it in my body. And 265 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: so what I started saying to myself is, Oh, it's 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: because because I'm really trying to be conscious of what 267 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm putting out versus what I'm taking in battery wise, 268 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: like am I recharging in this or am I giving away? 269 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Because I'm so quick to give all my energy away 270 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: to stuff and then I crash out and burn out 271 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: and like like just such far extremes. So I'm trying 272 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: to be conscious of it more on a day to day. 273 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: Like do you notice when you take breaks from stuff, 274 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: it gets more, like the feeling of it happening gets bigger, 275 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: so you notice it more. Does that make sense? 276 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know what you mean. I am 277 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: one of those people that overworks anyway, So I'm constantly 278 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: in my mind thinking about the things that I didn't 279 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: get done, which is really stressful. And I do think 280 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: when I was in that flow last year of not 281 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: getting up and doing my phone right away, I was 282 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: definitely a lot more at peace. But you know, your 283 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: phone goes with you everywhere I would be, I would 284 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: get up to go to the gym, and I'm like 285 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: working out through Vienna app and then my phone rings 286 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: or so it's just really hard for it. I found 287 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: it really hard for me to completely disconnect. I even 288 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: went as far as getting an alarm clock so that 289 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: the first thing I touched wasn't my phone, and I 290 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: had my phone charging in another room. But I've gone 291 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: back to using my phone as an alarm clock because 292 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: the other one is good. Yeah, so yeah, I do 293 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: think there is like a visceral. I mean we're addicted 294 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: to him too, you know, so there is a bit 295 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: of withdraw and then when you get that hit again, 296 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: it is it's going to make your body react in 297 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: some way. 298 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're addicted to it. But I think that's like 299 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of what I'm noticing about myself is I just 300 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: want to be more conscious. And we're always talking about 301 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: this on here, and I just am actively noticing it. 302 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: So I'm saying it out loud. But the battery thing 303 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: is like my main thing, and I'll pick it up, 304 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: I'll feel the stress, I'll go to respond even and 305 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't have to do that right now. 306 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: The world is not going to fall apart. The world 307 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: is already falling apart. First of all, let's just talk 308 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: about it that way, You're. 309 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: Not gonna stop it from falling. I'm falling apart. 310 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: I'spond to that text right this second. Like, you can 311 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: still do your meditation, Go get your coffee, say the 312 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: things you're grateful for while you get on your vibration plate. 313 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: All the things that I do in the morning that 314 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: to get myself into a good headspace, but making sure 315 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: that my battery is fully fucking charged before I start 316 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: expending energy into anything else or anyone else. They're not 317 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: bad things. Those are good. Like I want to give 318 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: my energy to the things that I care about, you 319 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: know I do. I want to be good at my job. 320 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I want to be a good partner to my boyfriend. 321 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: I want to be a good friend of my friends. 322 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: I want to be a good family member to my family, 323 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Like all of those things do matter. But I also 324 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: want to be good to myself. And I've just started 325 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: adding that to the list at all instead of just 326 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: like forgetting about that until I crashed out, And it 327 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: should be the first thing on the list. But we're 328 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: just not really taught that way. I don't think no, no, 329 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: or women aren't specifically well. 330 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean we also live in a I mean we 331 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: live and work in an economy where we're like seemingly 332 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: replaceable too. Yeah, so if we're not staying on top 333 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: of shit, we feel like we're going to get moved past. 334 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: You might and but like also the world doesn't you 335 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: know the world's not going to stop because we didn't 336 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: do something. 337 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's all about balance, right, Yeah, trying to. 338 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be a lot better about it. Like 339 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: when I get text late at night, like if I 340 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: if it's not a friend just chit chatting or something 341 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: that like really truly needs my attention, I just don't respond, 342 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: or I'll respond, or I'll respond and program it to 343 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: be the next day. Oh so it goes out. 344 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: There's so much slower to respond now than you ever 345 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: have in our entire relationship. And I'm like, where the 346 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: fuck is he? Like I'll farm myself, like talking to 347 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: my phone, and I used to be able to predict 348 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: it and like he must be mowing a lawn or 349 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: take it like I used to. Yeah, I'm like I 350 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: knew where you were, and now I'm like, I have 351 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: no idea. 352 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm just underwater. 353 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that is sadly anyway, that's kind of 354 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: really like, there wasn't this full formed topic for today 355 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: other than just kind of reflecting on what I talked 356 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: about with Uh. I was about to call him doctor 357 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: Chuck with chef Chuck of just like yeah, you don't 358 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: want to get to that extreme. And I think it 359 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: is kind of part of how I'm living my life 360 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: right now with health being my word of the year, 361 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm really focused on am I doing things that 362 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: are right by my body? Do I do that perfectly? 363 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, But on a day to day I do 364 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: try to like contemplate that at least and then allow 365 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: myself to rest. That's been a really weird one, like 366 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: this weekend I didn't feel like doing anything really and 367 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I will typically shame the shit out of myself for 368 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: that or be like, well, you're at home at least 369 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: throwing some laundry, And I did a little bit, but 370 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I just tried to kind of like be it's so 371 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: much harder than you would think. 372 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: I know people that don't have jobs that are some 373 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: of the busiest people in the world, So I like, 374 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's those weekends when I'm like just a 375 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: lazy piece of shit, Like I'll think about those people I'm. 376 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: Like labeled it even led I know, but like but 377 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: it's like, why can't that just be like you're recharged? 378 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean, but that's my inner dialogue. 379 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: You know. 380 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: It's like I feel like if I'm not getting something done, 381 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm failing all the time. 382 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: And that's worth though, like we always talk about we 383 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: don't need to do that. 384 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm you know, I'm a I've always been a 385 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: chronic procrastinator too, So it's like in my mind when 386 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: I am taking those moments to recharge, I'm thinking about 387 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: the things I haven't done yet, you know, So it 388 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: does feel like I'm wasting time. So even though I'm not, 389 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: it's I'm truly not being a piece of shit I do. 390 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: I know in my heart that I have to recharge 391 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: and I need to take those moments otherwise I'm gonna 392 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: to resent anyone that I'm working with because it feels 393 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: like all of my joy is being stolen in my 394 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: time is being stolen. But I can't. You know. It's 395 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: that little devil on my shoulder who is reminding me 396 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: of all the things that I need to get done, 397 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 2: and that's a really hard thing to battle. But the 398 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: sun came up today, I'll get it done today, you know, 399 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: Like that's yeah, I mean, I think it's a It's 400 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: a good thing to remind yourself that, like, unless you 401 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: are legitimately saving lives in your job, it can probably 402 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: wait until you've got a clear mind to focus on 403 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: it if you're feeling overwhelmed or you know, disinterested in 404 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: the moment. 405 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes it can't, Like there are definitely deadlines 406 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: that I have. I remember back in January feeling like 407 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: I really need a day off, really need to rest, 408 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: and I just couldn't get it. And like, but things 409 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: ebb and flow, and knowing things come in seasons. And 410 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: then also like just being conscious of prioritizing yourself. And 411 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: I think like taking care of yourself is what I'm 412 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: saying by that, not necessarily like fuck everybody, I'm just 413 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a selfish asshole, but like taking care of 414 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: yourself amongst all that you give to everything else in 415 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: your life, I think is just a good thing to 416 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: add to your agenda for the day, you know what 417 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean. 418 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: Like proactively not you know, not don't wait until you 419 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: get stomach cancer or whatever it is, to start thinking 420 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: prioritizing yourself, put yourself first. Like the truth is, is 421 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: nobody on earth that's going to that should or will 422 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: care about you more than you? Yeah, well so like 423 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: and it's like we're trained to think that that's selfish, 424 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: but that's also self love. I mean, maybe your parents 425 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: will love you more than you do some days, but 426 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: it depends on your parents. 427 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Anyway. We're gonna go get rid of these headaches we 428 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: have from the snow and. 429 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: Am congested from it. 430 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: I know. 431 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: Arometric pressure, baby, is. 432 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: A real thing. It's a real thing. Good thing. You're 433 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: going to be on vacation tomorrow, I know. Enjoy that. 434 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: And if you guys have any thoughts for us, you 435 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: can always email us at the Edge at velvetedge dot com. 436 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: You can hit me up on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's 437 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: Edge Chip I'm at Chip Doors. 438 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: It's h I P D O R S C H. 439 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Also, our podcast Instagram is at Velvet's Edge Podcast, so 440 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: go follow along there. There are more prompts and videos 441 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. So as you guys go 442 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: into the weekend and you're living on the edge, I 443 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: hope you aluys remember. 444 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 2: Too a to catchule. 445 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: Bye