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Yeah, 11 00:00:52,628 --> 00:00:54,788 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Morning Football. We are live here in 12 00:00:54,828 --> 00:00:56,908 Speaker 1: New York City. It is Thursday, August fourth. My name 13 00:00:56,948 --> 00:00:58,748 Speaker 1: is Jamie urt All. He is Kyle Brandt. He is 14 00:00:58,748 --> 00:01:01,548 Speaker 1: Peter Schrager. He is a Super Bowl champion, even though 15 00:01:01,548 --> 00:01:04,148 Speaker 1: his brother told us to stop calling him at Jason McCourty, 16 00:01:04,948 --> 00:01:09,068 Speaker 1: I know, right super Bowl away from you, we're talking 17 00:01:09,068 --> 00:01:11,308 Speaker 1: about everybody's not going to have three of them. I'm 18 00:01:11,348 --> 00:01:15,028 Speaker 1: happy what just want it takes. I like seeing the 19 00:01:15,068 --> 00:01:16,908 Speaker 1: Raiders go into the Hall of Fame. Yeah. One of 20 00:01:16,908 --> 00:01:19,428 Speaker 1: the greatest busts in there is a Raider how we long. 21 00:01:19,588 --> 00:01:23,388 Speaker 1: Amazing busts he Kevin Green and Troy Palam my three 22 00:01:23,388 --> 00:01:25,868 Speaker 1: favorite of us, but they're I love it. I love it. 23 00:01:25,828 --> 00:01:28,348 Speaker 1: It's been an interesting couple of day, ten days for 24 00:01:28,428 --> 00:01:29,708 Speaker 1: us to win the show. But the fact that now 25 00:01:29,708 --> 00:01:31,988 Speaker 1: we can settle one and actually talk about football, about it. 26 00:01:32,068 --> 00:01:33,388 Speaker 1: This is what we were brought here for. And it's 27 00:01:33,388 --> 00:01:37,748 Speaker 1: called good morning, Good morning, all right, cool time for 28 00:01:37,868 --> 00:01:42,988 Speaker 1: the lead block, good block, Yeah exactly. I'm Judy Batissa 29 00:01:43,028 --> 00:01:45,828 Speaker 1: and Tom pallisera are with us now, Judy, Tom, the 30 00:01:45,948 --> 00:01:49,068 Speaker 1: NFL has announced that they will appeal Brown's quarterback to 31 00:01:49,108 --> 00:01:52,908 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson six games suspension for violating the league's personal 32 00:01:52,948 --> 00:01:55,508 Speaker 1: conduct policy. Tom, I'm going to start with you. Why 33 00:01:55,588 --> 00:01:58,148 Speaker 1: did the league finally decide to appeal? They did have 34 00:01:58,268 --> 00:02:02,228 Speaker 1: until this morning to do so. Well, First of all, Jamie, 35 00:02:02,308 --> 00:02:06,508 Speaker 1: the NFL has that right under the bargaining Agreement to appeal, 36 00:02:06,548 --> 00:02:09,668 Speaker 1: as the NFLPA does any suspension for player under the 37 00:02:09,748 --> 00:02:13,388 Speaker 1: new disciplinary policy that was implemented back in twenty twenty. 38 00:02:13,508 --> 00:02:16,828 Speaker 1: So the NFL did officially file that appeal on Wednesday, 39 00:02:16,988 --> 00:02:20,548 Speaker 1: and once again is now seeking indefinite banishment of at 40 00:02:20,628 --> 00:02:24,108 Speaker 1: least one year with the possibility of conditional reinstatement in 41 00:02:24,148 --> 00:02:27,908 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three four Deshaun Watson. The NFLPA has two 42 00:02:27,948 --> 00:02:30,668 Speaker 1: days to respond to that brief. Roger Goodell can appoint 43 00:02:30,748 --> 00:02:34,588 Speaker 1: himself or someone else to hear the appeal. If in fact, 44 00:02:34,668 --> 00:02:37,908 Speaker 1: Goodell or is designee increased the suspension, there's a very 45 00:02:37,948 --> 00:02:40,948 Speaker 1: real possibility that this could end up in federal court. 46 00:02:41,108 --> 00:02:43,948 Speaker 1: There is also the possibility, now with this new timeline, 47 00:02:43,948 --> 00:02:48,628 Speaker 1: that the union and the league could revisit settlement talks. 48 00:02:48,668 --> 00:02:50,868 Speaker 1: There had been discussions going all the way back to 49 00:02:50,908 --> 00:02:54,108 Speaker 1: the three day hearing in early July. The NFL, though, 50 00:02:54,148 --> 00:02:56,868 Speaker 1: was unwilling to come down from a substantial number of 51 00:02:56,868 --> 00:02:59,868 Speaker 1: games on top of a significant fine for Deshaun Watson, 52 00:03:00,108 --> 00:03:03,068 Speaker 1: which Judy you would think would certainly form the basis 53 00:03:03,068 --> 00:03:07,228 Speaker 1: for any settlement talks here go forward. Right. It's important 54 00:03:07,268 --> 00:03:10,028 Speaker 1: to remember when wondering why the league would go back 55 00:03:10,028 --> 00:03:12,948 Speaker 1: and appeal, it is that in Judge Robinson's brief, she 56 00:03:13,068 --> 00:03:15,868 Speaker 1: said that the NFL had proved its case that Deshaun 57 00:03:15,908 --> 00:03:19,828 Speaker 1: Watson violated the Personal Conduct Policy in three different ways. 58 00:03:19,988 --> 00:03:23,988 Speaker 1: Most importantly, she said that by the NFL's own definition 59 00:03:24,028 --> 00:03:28,468 Speaker 1: of sexual assault. Deshaun Watson had committed sexual assault, so 60 00:03:28,548 --> 00:03:31,428 Speaker 1: six games was just never going to cut it, certainly 61 00:03:31,468 --> 00:03:33,908 Speaker 1: not in the court of public opinion, which the NFL 62 00:03:33,948 --> 00:03:37,588 Speaker 1: pays attention to. But more importantly, the NFL thought that 63 00:03:37,708 --> 00:03:41,388 Speaker 1: no precedent really applies to this, and in her brief 64 00:03:41,508 --> 00:03:47,508 Speaker 1: that the judge herself said egregious behavior, patent a predatory behavior. 65 00:03:47,788 --> 00:03:51,268 Speaker 1: So they felt that no president that she was relying 66 00:03:51,308 --> 00:03:55,828 Speaker 1: on really applies to this case. There's nothing analogous to 67 00:03:55,868 --> 00:03:58,108 Speaker 1: what we've seen in this case, and that is why 68 00:03:58,148 --> 00:04:00,588 Speaker 1: they want to revisit it. And as Tom said, they 69 00:04:00,628 --> 00:04:02,948 Speaker 1: have the right in the CBA to appeal it, just 70 00:04:03,028 --> 00:04:07,788 Speaker 1: as the NFLPA has a right to appeal it. Judy, Tom, 71 00:04:07,828 --> 00:04:10,148 Speaker 1: you both have been all over this story with all 72 00:04:10,148 --> 00:04:12,428 Speaker 1: that's developed in the last twenty four hours. Judy will 73 00:04:12,468 --> 00:04:14,028 Speaker 1: start with you. Is there a chance that the Shawn 74 00:04:14,108 --> 00:04:16,428 Speaker 1: Watson could actually be on the field Week one as 75 00:04:16,468 --> 00:04:20,788 Speaker 1: this whole process takes out. Yes, there is a chance. 76 00:04:21,228 --> 00:04:24,468 Speaker 1: This is tricky and it's an element of unknown because 77 00:04:24,508 --> 00:04:26,868 Speaker 1: this is the first time we're going through this with 78 00:04:26,908 --> 00:04:30,508 Speaker 1: this new policy. But yes, the expectation is that if 79 00:04:30,548 --> 00:04:34,588 Speaker 1: the NFL increases the suspension by a large amount that 80 00:04:34,668 --> 00:04:38,628 Speaker 1: the Players Association will go to federal court, and in 81 00:04:38,668 --> 00:04:41,828 Speaker 1: that case they would seek a temporary restraining order. And 82 00:04:41,868 --> 00:04:45,388 Speaker 1: now the question is if they got a temporary restraining order, 83 00:04:45,628 --> 00:04:48,868 Speaker 1: when would it kick in. We've seen in past cases 84 00:04:48,948 --> 00:04:53,068 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott Tom Brady that a temporary restraining order allowed 85 00:04:53,108 --> 00:04:56,748 Speaker 1: the player to play, to be on the field while 86 00:04:56,788 --> 00:04:59,508 Speaker 1: everything was playing out in court, but that might not 87 00:04:59,588 --> 00:05:01,628 Speaker 1: be the case here because we already know there's going 88 00:05:01,668 --> 00:05:04,948 Speaker 1: to be at least a six games suspension. The question 89 00:05:05,108 --> 00:05:07,948 Speaker 1: is would a temporary restraining orders start immediately and get 90 00:05:08,028 --> 00:05:10,988 Speaker 1: him off the field for week one or would he 91 00:05:11,068 --> 00:05:14,788 Speaker 1: be allowed When would that restraining order kick in. It's 92 00:05:14,868 --> 00:05:18,268 Speaker 1: a little bit murky. There's unknowns for both the PA 93 00:05:18,308 --> 00:05:19,948 Speaker 1: and the league here because again, this is the first 94 00:05:19,948 --> 00:05:24,948 Speaker 1: time anybody has been through this judy. In addition, if 95 00:05:24,988 --> 00:05:27,628 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson like any other player ended up being suspended 96 00:05:27,668 --> 00:05:30,908 Speaker 1: for a minimum of one year, historically speaking, that player 97 00:05:30,908 --> 00:05:33,548 Speaker 1: has not been allowed to participate in training camp. So 98 00:05:33,588 --> 00:05:36,508 Speaker 1: that also raises the possibility if in fact, Roger Goodell 99 00:05:36,668 --> 00:05:39,548 Speaker 1: or his designee increase it to that indefinite ban of 100 00:05:39,548 --> 00:05:41,988 Speaker 1: at least one year that Deshaun Watson could be out 101 00:05:41,988 --> 00:05:44,788 Speaker 1: of training camp, out of the preseason, off the field immediately, 102 00:05:44,908 --> 00:05:48,988 Speaker 1: which would only accelerate the potential timeline for a federal lawsuit. 103 00:05:49,068 --> 00:05:52,148 Speaker 1: There have been a lot of emotional arguments about the 104 00:05:52,268 --> 00:05:56,028 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson six game suspension, understandably so given the subject 105 00:05:56,108 --> 00:05:58,788 Speaker 1: matter at play. The argument by Sue L. Robinson for 106 00:05:58,828 --> 00:06:01,828 Speaker 1: the six game suspension, though, was also a legal one, 107 00:06:01,948 --> 00:06:05,068 Speaker 1: saying that the NFL is essentially trying to enact a 108 00:06:05,188 --> 00:06:07,628 Speaker 1: different disciplinary scale than what is laid out in the 109 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:11,628 Speaker 1: collective Bargaining Agreement and the Personal Conduct Policy. Failure to 110 00:06:11,948 --> 00:06:15,188 Speaker 1: notify the players union of that change could constitute a 111 00:06:15,308 --> 00:06:18,348 Speaker 1: violation of federal labor law. The NFL, of course, would 112 00:06:18,348 --> 00:06:20,668 Speaker 1: counter that the reason that precedent should not apply in 113 00:06:20,708 --> 00:06:24,508 Speaker 1: this case is there is nothing to compare to the unprecedented, 114 00:06:24,548 --> 00:06:28,028 Speaker 1: in the league's opinion, behavior of Deshaun Watson, which referred 115 00:06:28,028 --> 00:06:30,548 Speaker 1: to in Wednesday's brief as some of the most egregious 116 00:06:30,548 --> 00:06:36,028 Speaker 1: in league history. Jamie Judy Town, thank you so much 117 00:06:36,068 --> 00:06:40,148 Speaker 1: for all that information. All right, The NFL is appealing 118 00:06:40,188 --> 00:06:43,588 Speaker 1: this six game suspension recommendation by Judge Sue L. Robinson, 119 00:06:44,028 --> 00:06:45,748 Speaker 1: So what do we think could be next? Heere, I 120 00:06:45,788 --> 00:06:48,508 Speaker 1: think what you're hearing from both of our experts right there, 121 00:06:48,508 --> 00:06:53,228 Speaker 1: and they do a wonderful job contextualizing and making it 122 00:06:53,508 --> 00:06:55,628 Speaker 1: so we can understand it and not going through legal 123 00:06:55,628 --> 00:07:00,068 Speaker 1: documents sixteen page legal document, which was what Judge Robinson 124 00:07:00,148 --> 00:07:02,468 Speaker 1: put forward, is that this is so complex and so 125 00:07:02,548 --> 00:07:05,268 Speaker 1: behind closed doors. And what Judge Robinson was based this 126 00:07:05,348 --> 00:07:07,308 Speaker 1: on a lot of it was precedent in the past. 127 00:07:07,388 --> 00:07:11,588 Speaker 1: So jameis Winston, Zekiel Elliott, no player who has been 128 00:07:11,588 --> 00:07:14,508 Speaker 1: accused or been put under that sort of umbrella has 129 00:07:14,508 --> 00:07:18,188 Speaker 1: gotten more than six games, all things considered. So hey, 130 00:07:18,228 --> 00:07:20,628 Speaker 1: the maximum, Yes, it's egregious, and we did the maximum 131 00:07:20,708 --> 00:07:23,388 Speaker 1: was six here six And under your current policy and 132 00:07:23,388 --> 00:07:25,628 Speaker 1: what you've used and what you've done as disciplinary you 133 00:07:25,668 --> 00:07:27,268 Speaker 1: can't just say, willy nilly, it's going to be the 134 00:07:27,268 --> 00:07:29,628 Speaker 1: whole season. Because of the Court of public opinion, the 135 00:07:29,748 --> 00:07:32,228 Speaker 1: NFL is coming back and essentially saying, well, no, there 136 00:07:32,308 --> 00:07:34,588 Speaker 1: is no precedent for this. There is no precedent for 137 00:07:34,628 --> 00:07:38,068 Speaker 1: this because there's multiple accusers and though they've only heard 138 00:07:38,068 --> 00:07:40,788 Speaker 1: four that there was all these others and let's play 139 00:07:40,788 --> 00:07:43,468 Speaker 1: this out further, and because of the CBA, which is 140 00:07:43,468 --> 00:07:47,108 Speaker 1: a collectively bargained agreement, the NFL has the power to 141 00:07:47,148 --> 00:07:49,668 Speaker 1: then say, okay, well that's great from Judge Robinson. We 142 00:07:49,708 --> 00:07:52,428 Speaker 1: are now going to weigh in. We can appeal, and 143 00:07:52,908 --> 00:07:55,228 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, the Commissioner, he can weigh in and then 144 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:57,508 Speaker 1: levy the final word. And if it's not him, it's 145 00:07:57,508 --> 00:08:00,308 Speaker 1: someone that he designates. The back into that is that 146 00:08:00,708 --> 00:08:03,108 Speaker 1: the NFLPA could say, well, no, no, no, no, you 147 00:08:03,148 --> 00:08:05,068 Speaker 1: can't do that. We're going to take this to federal court. 148 00:08:05,388 --> 00:08:07,148 Speaker 1: And as we saw at the flake Gate, when you 149 00:08:07,148 --> 00:08:10,908 Speaker 1: bring in a Jeffrey Kessler, who's the nflpa's lead lead dog, 150 00:08:10,948 --> 00:08:12,708 Speaker 1: when it comes in that they will go to court 151 00:08:12,788 --> 00:08:15,268 Speaker 1: and they will fight for that player and they will say, well, no, 152 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:17,868 Speaker 1: you can't just do the CBA how you want it. 153 00:08:17,908 --> 00:08:20,388 Speaker 1: This is how we have as rights. And this could 154 00:08:20,468 --> 00:08:23,948 Speaker 1: drag out even further. My reaction to this is everyone 155 00:08:23,948 --> 00:08:26,708 Speaker 1: wants to look at you know, legally, here's what this. 156 00:08:27,468 --> 00:08:30,308 Speaker 1: There's a workplace environment thing more or less, and the 157 00:08:30,348 --> 00:08:34,428 Speaker 1: player's side agreed to these rules in the CBA and 158 00:08:34,468 --> 00:08:36,908 Speaker 1: the policies, and that this is actually possible that Gould 159 00:08:36,908 --> 00:08:39,508 Speaker 1: Dell can then come back and say no, actually, I'm 160 00:08:39,588 --> 00:08:41,988 Speaker 1: going to appeal that decision and I'm going to levy 161 00:08:42,028 --> 00:08:44,428 Speaker 1: my own and then then the NFLPA can then take 162 00:08:44,428 --> 00:08:45,948 Speaker 1: it to court and drag it out as long as 163 00:08:45,948 --> 00:08:49,428 Speaker 1: they want. The question is when does Watson take the 164 00:08:49,468 --> 00:08:52,148 Speaker 1: field and does the NFL get its way, which has 165 00:08:52,188 --> 00:08:54,348 Speaker 1: ulted to me what we've heard, they would like to 166 00:08:54,428 --> 00:08:57,428 Speaker 1: probably see Watson be gone for the year and have 167 00:08:57,508 --> 00:09:00,868 Speaker 1: a very heavy fine. I think he pointed it out here. 168 00:09:00,988 --> 00:09:02,868 Speaker 1: I think the precedent argument of keeping it a six 169 00:09:02,908 --> 00:09:05,668 Speaker 1: games is ludicrous. You're talking about those other players you mentioned, 170 00:09:05,668 --> 00:09:08,748 Speaker 1: single accusers, single incidents. This could not be more different 171 00:09:08,748 --> 00:09:11,828 Speaker 1: than the Deshaun Watson situation. I've been saying it all week, 172 00:09:12,588 --> 00:09:14,748 Speaker 1: six games, it should be longer, and I expect it 173 00:09:14,748 --> 00:09:19,068 Speaker 1: will be longer. Judge Robinson found stuff, guys. She effectively, 174 00:09:19,068 --> 00:09:21,068 Speaker 1: in her own way of saying it, found him guilty. 175 00:09:21,188 --> 00:09:24,028 Speaker 1: She read and said, oh, yeah, I believe terrible things happen. 176 00:09:24,308 --> 00:09:27,748 Speaker 1: The six game suspension is an admission of that. So 177 00:09:27,828 --> 00:09:30,188 Speaker 1: if she found out and said, I don't think there's 178 00:09:30,188 --> 00:09:32,588 Speaker 1: anything here, I don't recommend any suspension, and then when 179 00:09:32,668 --> 00:09:34,468 Speaker 1: NFL comes back and still does. That's a different deal. 180 00:09:34,748 --> 00:09:37,668 Speaker 1: She said, these things happen. And for anybody who was 181 00:09:37,708 --> 00:09:40,188 Speaker 1: still saying I think six is successive, certainly more than 182 00:09:40,188 --> 00:09:44,948 Speaker 1: that is successive. Take five minutes, read it, consume it. 183 00:09:45,108 --> 00:09:47,388 Speaker 1: Just click, open it up and read it and see 184 00:09:47,388 --> 00:09:49,308 Speaker 1: if that sits right with you. Get right with what 185 00:09:49,348 --> 00:09:52,788 Speaker 1: you read, because it's disgusting. I mean, it's graphic, it's disgusting. 186 00:09:52,828 --> 00:09:55,308 Speaker 1: It's successive, and I think it warrants a lot more 187 00:09:55,588 --> 00:09:57,668 Speaker 1: than a six week paid vacation for a guy to 188 00:09:57,708 --> 00:09:59,388 Speaker 1: come back week seven and just check right in like 189 00:09:59,468 --> 00:10:02,108 Speaker 1: nothing happened. I think it should be longer, and I've 190 00:10:02,148 --> 00:10:04,148 Speaker 1: said again, I think it will be longer. And here 191 00:10:04,188 --> 00:10:06,948 Speaker 1: we Yeah, she wrote the NFL and Tom and Judy 192 00:10:06,988 --> 00:10:09,268 Speaker 1: touched on this. The NFL proved its case by their 193 00:10:09,268 --> 00:10:12,708 Speaker 1: definition that Deshaun Watson committed sexual assault. She wrote it 194 00:10:12,908 --> 00:10:15,588 Speaker 1: in there. I feel it to be on purpose. She 195 00:10:15,668 --> 00:10:18,588 Speaker 1: also had to do her own job as a former judge, 196 00:10:18,668 --> 00:10:23,388 Speaker 1: as the litigator here or the arbiter here, to say that, however, 197 00:10:23,468 --> 00:10:25,948 Speaker 1: you have not set the standard. It's on the NFL 198 00:10:25,988 --> 00:10:28,388 Speaker 1: to set the standard. So I did speak with Helsara 199 00:10:28,468 --> 00:10:30,188 Speaker 1: before the show because I just wanted to clear something 200 00:10:30,268 --> 00:10:32,868 Speaker 1: up about do we have to wait for another CBA 201 00:10:32,988 --> 00:10:35,588 Speaker 1: negotiation to come up to change that number of a 202 00:10:35,708 --> 00:10:38,068 Speaker 1: number six to recommend for a case like this for 203 00:10:38,108 --> 00:10:40,148 Speaker 1: that to be the suspension. He said, no, the NFL 204 00:10:40,148 --> 00:10:43,388 Speaker 1: could change it tomorrow and say this is our workplace standard. Now. 205 00:10:43,388 --> 00:10:47,148 Speaker 1: They can't retroactively say that we've changed it to a year. 206 00:10:47,188 --> 00:10:48,668 Speaker 1: That's why it should be here. And you know what, 207 00:10:48,988 --> 00:10:51,708 Speaker 1: that's fine. Do what you need to do here with 208 00:10:51,828 --> 00:10:54,948 Speaker 1: the suspension, with the appeal, however long it needs to take. 209 00:10:55,228 --> 00:10:57,868 Speaker 1: It's for the next player. This is for the next 210 00:10:57,868 --> 00:11:00,388 Speaker 1: group of women that is affected. If you want to 211 00:11:00,428 --> 00:11:02,908 Speaker 1: change it from six to a year, if the accounts 212 00:11:02,948 --> 00:11:05,388 Speaker 1: come from more than one sore, this affects more than 213 00:11:05,428 --> 00:11:08,268 Speaker 1: one person, it automatically needs to be a year. If 214 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:10,548 Speaker 1: you need to change it next week or next month, 215 00:11:10,748 --> 00:11:14,068 Speaker 1: then do so. Deshaun Watson. Situation is going to play 216 00:11:14,068 --> 00:11:16,228 Speaker 1: out legally. People are in place to fight for their 217 00:11:16,268 --> 00:11:19,348 Speaker 1: respective parties, and that's fine. But if the NFL wants 218 00:11:19,348 --> 00:11:22,548 Speaker 1: to take action and treat women the way that they 219 00:11:22,588 --> 00:11:25,148 Speaker 1: have said and stated that they want to respect the 220 00:11:25,188 --> 00:11:28,868 Speaker 1: situation that women are at hand in sometimes, then change 221 00:11:28,908 --> 00:11:31,308 Speaker 1: the number now, so the next time this happens, we 222 00:11:31,388 --> 00:11:34,428 Speaker 1: don't have these conversations for sure, and we all knew 223 00:11:34,588 --> 00:11:37,268 Speaker 1: that they were going to appeal this. Judy mentioned it 224 00:11:37,308 --> 00:11:39,708 Speaker 1: when she was talking and she said, the NFL pays 225 00:11:39,748 --> 00:11:42,308 Speaker 1: attention to public opinion. They have to. It's a consumer 226 00:11:42,668 --> 00:11:48,708 Speaker 1: driven business. And for me, six games not enough. When 227 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:51,308 Speaker 1: you read through that document, you see the findings that 228 00:11:51,388 --> 00:11:54,348 Speaker 1: sue L. Robinson found. There's no way that he can 229 00:11:54,388 --> 00:11:56,628 Speaker 1: just go out there six games in and then just 230 00:11:56,668 --> 00:11:59,988 Speaker 1: go start playing. For me as a player for so 231 00:12:00,028 --> 00:12:03,828 Speaker 1: long being a part of the NFLPA, seeing that negotiations 232 00:12:03,868 --> 00:12:08,468 Speaker 1: finally led to an actual process of which somebody is 233 00:12:08,468 --> 00:12:11,948 Speaker 1: suspended or somebody is taking away from the game, I 234 00:12:11,988 --> 00:12:16,388 Speaker 1: wish the full year or full year plus whatever it was, 235 00:12:16,668 --> 00:12:19,508 Speaker 1: could have come from that process. Now. I understand for 236 00:12:19,548 --> 00:12:22,508 Speaker 1: Suel Robinson as hard as a former judge sitting there 237 00:12:22,548 --> 00:12:24,188 Speaker 1: and say, and I'm just gonna throw the book at 238 00:12:24,228 --> 00:12:26,588 Speaker 1: this guy and give them two years, when that's never 239 00:12:26,628 --> 00:12:29,588 Speaker 1: been done. There's never been a statement or anything that 240 00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:32,188 Speaker 1: brings it to those terms. But for me, I just 241 00:12:32,228 --> 00:12:34,548 Speaker 1: I would love to have seen the processing like you 242 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:36,868 Speaker 1: alluded to, Peter, like yes, this is in the collective 243 00:12:36,868 --> 00:12:42,028 Speaker 1: barnaing the NFL has the right. But those negotiations don't 244 00:12:42,028 --> 00:12:44,108 Speaker 1: just go like that, Like there's not a mass text 245 00:12:44,108 --> 00:12:46,308 Speaker 1: that goes out like, hey, guys, do you all agree? 246 00:12:46,348 --> 00:12:50,828 Speaker 1: It's back and forth. Just giving up something for this 247 00:12:51,108 --> 00:12:53,428 Speaker 1: and for the PA and for the players to get 248 00:12:53,428 --> 00:12:56,828 Speaker 1: an opportunity to have a process to go through was 249 00:12:56,868 --> 00:12:59,548 Speaker 1: a big win. Now we're about to kind of negate 250 00:12:59,548 --> 00:13:02,388 Speaker 1: that and go back to what it is. But and 251 00:13:02,628 --> 00:13:06,388 Speaker 1: this situation, okay with that, it's really well said. And 252 00:13:06,468 --> 00:13:09,108 Speaker 1: to add to both of your points. So in twenty fourteen, 253 00:13:09,148 --> 00:13:11,948 Speaker 1: they had a CBA from two and eleven that was 254 00:13:11,988 --> 00:13:15,148 Speaker 1: signed Ray Rice happens. It's two games. They tore up 255 00:13:15,188 --> 00:13:17,868 Speaker 1: the public the conduct policy. Let's write a new one. 256 00:13:17,908 --> 00:13:21,308 Speaker 1: They can do it again here And you hit on 257 00:13:21,348 --> 00:13:23,828 Speaker 1: something that was really strong as well, was saying that, hey, 258 00:13:23,708 --> 00:13:26,508 Speaker 1: you have to concede some things in the CBA here 259 00:13:26,548 --> 00:13:29,548 Speaker 1: and there, and the players were really helping on Goodell 260 00:13:29,668 --> 00:13:32,388 Speaker 1: not being the judge and jury and he wasn't on this, 261 00:13:32,988 --> 00:13:36,148 Speaker 1: but through the process we ultimately will be, which to 262 00:13:36,188 --> 00:13:39,828 Speaker 1: a lot of players, there's great frustration saying, hey, whether 263 00:13:39,948 --> 00:13:42,508 Speaker 1: what happened or not. It's still where we were from 264 00:13:42,508 --> 00:13:44,828 Speaker 1: the beginning of this thing. The players agreed and signed on. 265 00:13:45,268 --> 00:13:47,948 Speaker 1: Other concessions were made, and let's remember, on Sunday evening, 266 00:13:47,988 --> 00:13:52,828 Speaker 1: the NFLPA attempted to remind everybody publicly that Goodell is 267 00:13:52,908 --> 00:13:54,748 Speaker 1: not judge and jury on this one, or at least 268 00:13:54,748 --> 00:13:56,668 Speaker 1: they didn't want to get to that step. They set 269 00:13:56,668 --> 00:13:59,428 Speaker 1: out that statement that said, we understand the ruling is 270 00:13:59,428 --> 00:14:02,388 Speaker 1: coming down soon. We are going to respect the rulings. 271 00:14:02,468 --> 00:14:04,748 Speaker 1: Some people speculate that they knew the number and they 272 00:14:04,748 --> 00:14:07,548 Speaker 1: were trying to back in the NFL into not filing 273 00:14:07,588 --> 00:14:10,708 Speaker 1: this appeal. But they were trying, perhaps to play the 274 00:14:10,748 --> 00:14:12,788 Speaker 1: case of public opinion and try to get ahead of 275 00:14:12,828 --> 00:14:15,428 Speaker 1: what the NFL now has officially done, which has filed 276 00:14:15,428 --> 00:14:17,788 Speaker 1: the appeal against the six game suspension. Yeah, and that 277 00:14:17,868 --> 00:14:20,428 Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna happen. No, it was not. No, exactly, 278 00:14:20,468 --> 00:14:22,028 Speaker 1: they had their seventy two hours and they came to 279 00:14:22,148 --> 00:14:28,948 Speaker 1: terms with them. I can't do a good segment of 280 00:14:29,028 --> 00:14:33,668 Speaker 1: Listeners training camp. It's here, so is our show. It's here, 281 00:14:33,668 --> 00:14:36,308 Speaker 1: We're happening, good talking. We do speak in the breaks, 282 00:14:36,308 --> 00:14:38,508 Speaker 1: and we just sometimes the show interrupts us at a 283 00:14:38,508 --> 00:14:40,068 Speaker 1: fil nowhere because all the reps that you need. With 284 00:14:40,108 --> 00:14:42,708 Speaker 1: live reports from every camp, we had interviews with the 285 00:14:42,708 --> 00:14:45,348 Speaker 1: game's biggest stars like Russell Wilson, and it's time to 286 00:14:45,348 --> 00:14:48,148 Speaker 1: go to work inside training camp. Live continues today at 287 00:14:48,148 --> 00:14:51,188 Speaker 1: ten am Eastern right here after the morning football on NFL. 288 00:14:51,268 --> 00:14:54,388 Speaker 1: LEK stick with us all day and then tonight there's football, 289 00:14:54,388 --> 00:14:56,628 Speaker 1: which is so good. Let's go. But there was some 290 00:14:56,748 --> 00:14:59,588 Speaker 1: other drama around the league this week, and we go 291 00:14:59,628 --> 00:15:01,708 Speaker 1: down to Miami for a segment of we in or 292 00:15:01,708 --> 00:15:04,028 Speaker 1: Are we out? Here's how it goes. I state something 293 00:15:04,028 --> 00:15:05,868 Speaker 1: and you got tell me whether you agree. That's exactly 294 00:15:05,908 --> 00:15:08,708 Speaker 1: how I feel. Want to go to Miami. I think 295 00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:11,628 Speaker 1: you have to be in right oh. I think to 296 00:15:11,748 --> 00:15:13,188 Speaker 1: be one of those places where you go in saying 297 00:15:13,228 --> 00:15:17,548 Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm out, I'm out to get actually I 298 00:15:17,588 --> 00:15:20,948 Speaker 1: am in. Um let's start with two, because he's under 299 00:15:20,948 --> 00:15:23,228 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure already right now, and then there's 300 00:15:23,268 --> 00:15:26,068 Speaker 1: higher expectations this offseason, and with the recent stuff that 301 00:15:26,108 --> 00:15:28,308 Speaker 1: we saw from the Dolphins and that maybe Tom Brady 302 00:15:28,348 --> 00:15:31,468 Speaker 1: we're in discussions. This quarterback is trying to keep all 303 00:15:31,508 --> 00:15:33,988 Speaker 1: the noise at Bay and focus on what he has 304 00:15:34,028 --> 00:15:38,348 Speaker 1: to do. Take a listen. Yeah, I would say everyone 305 00:15:38,428 --> 00:15:40,788 Speaker 1: heard about it yesterday when we went into the locker 306 00:15:40,868 --> 00:15:44,148 Speaker 1: room seeing it on a TV. Um For me, I 307 00:15:44,468 --> 00:15:47,588 Speaker 1: have no idea about all the details other than what 308 00:15:47,748 --> 00:15:51,828 Speaker 1: was shown on TV. I can't I remember. I came 309 00:15:51,868 --> 00:15:54,428 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, so whatever happened in twenty nineteen, I 310 00:15:54,468 --> 00:15:57,348 Speaker 1: don't even I can't even speak on that. So I 311 00:15:57,468 --> 00:16:01,148 Speaker 1: was here twenty twenty and I'm still here, and I'm 312 00:16:01,148 --> 00:16:03,148 Speaker 1: blessed to be here. You know, if it has to 313 00:16:03,188 --> 00:16:05,668 Speaker 1: do with support from the team, I think the team's 314 00:16:05,668 --> 00:16:07,868 Speaker 1: all in with me and all the guys that we 315 00:16:07,908 --> 00:16:11,828 Speaker 1: have now and there he is having a good time 316 00:16:11,868 --> 00:16:14,868 Speaker 1: at practice as well. Ta has been the man this summer. 317 00:16:15,148 --> 00:16:18,468 Speaker 1: Everyone in Miami has spoken and said, hey, he's really 318 00:16:18,508 --> 00:16:20,388 Speaker 1: the autpha in the room, and he's the guy who's 319 00:16:20,388 --> 00:16:22,788 Speaker 1: the leader. Jason mccordy, you were with Tua last year 320 00:16:23,188 --> 00:16:26,388 Speaker 1: in Miami. Everyone across the board is all in on him. 321 00:16:26,388 --> 00:16:29,268 Speaker 1: So here's the statement. Who is actually gonna make the 322 00:16:29,268 --> 00:16:31,788 Speaker 1: giant leap in twenty twenty two? Are we in early 323 00:16:31,828 --> 00:16:34,748 Speaker 1: out on the two a year this season? Come on, 324 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:37,268 Speaker 1: you guys know the last man I'm all in on tour. 325 00:16:38,068 --> 00:16:40,148 Speaker 1: As I listen to that, I just feel for him. 326 00:16:40,188 --> 00:16:42,868 Speaker 1: He has to continue to answer questions about stuff he 327 00:16:42,908 --> 00:16:46,628 Speaker 1: has absolutely no control over. Like he said, he don't 328 00:16:46,628 --> 00:16:49,228 Speaker 1: know if they tanked in twenty nineteen. He's focused on 329 00:16:49,348 --> 00:16:51,508 Speaker 1: right now, but they have given him the weapons. I 330 00:16:51,548 --> 00:16:53,708 Speaker 1: feel like he is going to make the jump. We've 331 00:16:53,748 --> 00:16:56,788 Speaker 1: seen him in training camp making the throlls. We hear 332 00:16:56,828 --> 00:17:00,708 Speaker 1: the maturity in his responses. He's focused on this season. 333 00:17:01,028 --> 00:17:04,508 Speaker 1: His new weapons are around him and Tyreek Hill. He 334 00:17:04,548 --> 00:17:07,428 Speaker 1: has some big guys up front, Connor Williams to Ron 335 00:17:07,668 --> 00:17:11,108 Speaker 1: Armstead to protect him. I really feel like two was 336 00:17:11,108 --> 00:17:13,268 Speaker 1: gonna make the leap. Jame you said it yesterday. A 337 00:17:13,348 --> 00:17:16,068 Speaker 1: guy that's going to silence all the critics, and it's 338 00:17:16,068 --> 00:17:18,628 Speaker 1: gonna happen early. They have the Patriots at home, then 339 00:17:18,628 --> 00:17:20,748 Speaker 1: they had to Baltimore to play the Ravens at home 340 00:17:20,868 --> 00:17:23,988 Speaker 1: vers the Bills, and then they had to Cincinnati. It's difficult, 341 00:17:24,028 --> 00:17:26,468 Speaker 1: so we're gonna early. Like you just said, when you 342 00:17:26,468 --> 00:17:28,708 Speaker 1: get to Miami, are you in er you out? You're 343 00:17:28,708 --> 00:17:30,788 Speaker 1: gonna know right away. I got to make that decisions, 344 00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:32,348 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I like to I like the way 345 00:17:32,348 --> 00:17:34,388 Speaker 1: he's handling his business. I like that he got married 346 00:17:34,388 --> 00:17:36,868 Speaker 1: in the offseason and the news leaked because of court reports. 347 00:17:36,908 --> 00:17:39,828 Speaker 1: There was no due respect Peters, no McVeigh wedding with 348 00:17:39,828 --> 00:17:42,668 Speaker 1: a met Galla and Odell and Adell. It was just 349 00:17:42,708 --> 00:17:45,268 Speaker 1: like we got married quietly. People magazine photos were I 350 00:17:45,268 --> 00:17:47,788 Speaker 1: don't think they were there. There was no TMZ, none 351 00:17:47,828 --> 00:17:49,588 Speaker 1: of that. He wanted it discreet, which is why I'm 352 00:17:49,588 --> 00:17:53,988 Speaker 1: talking about on TV and yet giant leap, I'm gonna 353 00:17:54,028 --> 00:17:56,228 Speaker 1: say no. I'm gonna say no, Like we're in the 354 00:17:56,268 --> 00:18:00,308 Speaker 1: world of nuclear giant leaps. Josh Allen last year made 355 00:18:00,348 --> 00:18:04,108 Speaker 1: a giant leap. We've seen some crazy leaps. That doesn't 356 00:18:04,148 --> 00:18:06,548 Speaker 1: mean that won't be better this year. They won't get 357 00:18:06,588 --> 00:18:08,828 Speaker 1: to the playoffs all that stuff, but also raises a 358 00:18:08,948 --> 00:18:11,988 Speaker 1: question like is he even really capable of a giant leap? 359 00:18:12,068 --> 00:18:13,948 Speaker 1: Like for two of for all his strengths and assets, 360 00:18:14,468 --> 00:18:16,828 Speaker 1: he does not have the Josh Allen skill set. He 361 00:18:16,868 --> 00:18:20,188 Speaker 1: does not have the Justin Herbert physicality. He doesn't have 362 00:18:20,268 --> 00:18:22,908 Speaker 1: what Lamar has won an MVP in his own way. 363 00:18:23,068 --> 00:18:25,268 Speaker 1: We're kind of still figuring out what Tua does have. 364 00:18:25,508 --> 00:18:28,548 Speaker 1: He's mobile, he's accurate, and all that stuff. But in 365 00:18:28,588 --> 00:18:32,588 Speaker 1: this world where the quarterbacks now are Avengers, Like, is 366 00:18:32,628 --> 00:18:34,548 Speaker 1: he gonna be the guy? Oh my god, two or 367 00:18:34,588 --> 00:18:37,828 Speaker 1: three for forty six touchdowns and didn't for two to 368 00:18:37,828 --> 00:18:40,468 Speaker 1: make a quote unquote giant leap in today's context, we 369 00:18:40,508 --> 00:18:42,468 Speaker 1: need to be talking about him in the MVP context. 370 00:18:42,548 --> 00:18:44,508 Speaker 1: And I think still he'll just be good this year. 371 00:18:44,548 --> 00:18:46,668 Speaker 1: But I'm not ready for giant leap. I think I 372 00:18:46,748 --> 00:18:53,988 Speaker 1: disagree with that. Disagree tell him, Jamie V Like, that's 373 00:18:53,988 --> 00:18:56,868 Speaker 1: a catastrophe. I mean, that's a word beyond giants. I 374 00:18:56,868 --> 00:18:58,748 Speaker 1: can't think of it right now. But it's to go 375 00:18:58,788 --> 00:19:01,948 Speaker 1: to the MVP conversation giant leap from where he is, 376 00:19:01,988 --> 00:19:05,508 Speaker 1: starting from the expectations that we had were him versus 377 00:19:05,548 --> 00:19:09,348 Speaker 1: how he has performed versus giant I mean MVP, Like 378 00:19:09,388 --> 00:19:11,628 Speaker 1: we're talking if this guy wins a playoff game, that 379 00:19:11,668 --> 00:19:14,748 Speaker 1: would need to be a giant language the first five games. 380 00:19:14,788 --> 00:19:16,908 Speaker 1: I am with you, that is a test and a 381 00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:19,388 Speaker 1: half for two a tackle, bayo law, I am all. 382 00:19:19,428 --> 00:19:21,668 Speaker 1: I have to officially lean into this guy. Jason brought 383 00:19:21,668 --> 00:19:26,268 Speaker 1: it up by he's gonna silence everybody. But to argue 384 00:19:26,348 --> 00:19:28,668 Speaker 1: that the only way that a definition of a leap 385 00:19:29,228 --> 00:19:32,188 Speaker 1: is giant is that if he's in an MVP conversations 386 00:19:32,228 --> 00:19:34,188 Speaker 1: team related what I do see it as team I 387 00:19:34,228 --> 00:19:36,668 Speaker 1: see it as team performance related. Weren't we just harping 388 00:19:36,748 --> 00:19:39,668 Speaker 1: last week about how a quarterbacks definition is in postseason 389 00:19:39,708 --> 00:19:42,468 Speaker 1: wins like that? Well, that's what he said to it, 390 00:19:42,508 --> 00:19:46,788 Speaker 1: and that like postseason, playoff games, appearances, wins, being a 391 00:19:46,868 --> 00:19:50,428 Speaker 1: leader giant like MVP because there's third year. Oh he's 392 00:19:50,428 --> 00:19:53,868 Speaker 1: a Jimmy Garoppolo. Now we're great, top ten pick, third year, brilliant, 393 00:19:53,908 --> 00:19:56,228 Speaker 1: new head coach, all the wide receivers, and he should 394 00:19:56,228 --> 00:19:58,068 Speaker 1: make a giant leap. He should. Yes, the giant leap 395 00:19:58,188 --> 00:19:59,788 Speaker 1: is going to be Peter in this segment. The first 396 00:19:59,788 --> 00:20:01,788 Speaker 1: time that Jamie and Jason find a player they're not 397 00:20:01,828 --> 00:20:06,708 Speaker 1: all in for, that'll be the giant. Everybody's great critical, guys, 398 00:20:07,508 --> 00:20:12,868 Speaker 1: don't I know the show was growing here? Yep? Well, everybody, 399 00:20:12,908 --> 00:20:16,148 Speaker 1: we're all in thirty two teams times fifty three players. 400 00:20:16,188 --> 00:20:18,428 Speaker 1: I'm in on all of them. It's okay, guys, Not 401 00:20:18,548 --> 00:20:21,388 Speaker 1: everybody cast to be your favorite play Jamie's point. I 402 00:20:21,508 --> 00:20:23,628 Speaker 1: do think there's some credence if the Dolphins who have 403 00:20:23,708 --> 00:20:25,468 Speaker 1: not won a playoff game. I since then, I think 404 00:20:25,508 --> 00:20:29,028 Speaker 1: since Dave Wantstat was the coach and and Jay Fiedler 405 00:20:29,108 --> 00:20:31,788 Speaker 1: was a quarterback. If they get to the playoffs and 406 00:20:31,948 --> 00:20:34,068 Speaker 1: they can compete and win a playoff game, I think 407 00:20:34,108 --> 00:20:35,868 Speaker 1: that is a giant lead. No, it's not good enough 408 00:20:35,868 --> 00:20:37,628 Speaker 1: for you. You need it's a leape. You asked a 409 00:20:37,828 --> 00:20:40,028 Speaker 1: giant league. Like now we're stilling to see more from 410 00:20:40,068 --> 00:20:42,348 Speaker 1: two two, Like if they just make the playoffs and 411 00:20:42,428 --> 00:20:45,268 Speaker 1: it's not done kind of on his merit, Like yeah, 412 00:20:45,308 --> 00:20:47,668 Speaker 1: I want to see more than just team success. I 413 00:20:47,708 --> 00:20:50,348 Speaker 1: want to see him throwing for twenty five twenty six 414 00:20:50,428 --> 00:20:53,268 Speaker 1: touchdowns and six interceptions, Like I want to see the 415 00:20:53,428 --> 00:20:56,508 Speaker 1: giant leap of the numbers as well as completion percent. 416 00:20:56,668 --> 00:20:58,108 Speaker 1: You want it at the hands of two. You don't 417 00:20:58,148 --> 00:21:01,108 Speaker 1: want to like Peyton's Super Bowl all at Denver, Like, oh, correct, 418 00:21:01,148 --> 00:21:02,908 Speaker 1: you know, like when he was kind of the winning quarterbacks. 419 00:21:03,708 --> 00:21:05,308 Speaker 1: Have a lot to say, list, But I know you 420 00:21:05,348 --> 00:21:07,668 Speaker 1: have a very very smart next question, I get, I 421 00:21:07,668 --> 00:21:09,508 Speaker 1: don't even know what. I'm sorry, I'm sure. Sorry. Yes, 422 00:21:10,308 --> 00:21:13,148 Speaker 1: the Monte Adams posted a video of getting into a 423 00:21:13,348 --> 00:21:16,308 Speaker 1: ride share with three other teammates and the car was 424 00:21:16,348 --> 00:21:19,508 Speaker 1: not one of the extra large ones. Hunter Renfro seems 425 00:21:19,548 --> 00:21:22,668 Speaker 1: to have broken protocol by sitting in the front seat 426 00:21:23,228 --> 00:21:25,988 Speaker 1: of a ride share with three other grown men in 427 00:21:26,068 --> 00:21:29,628 Speaker 1: the back seat squished together. There you see car, Adams 428 00:21:29,708 --> 00:21:31,908 Speaker 1: and Hollands. Is that a ride share x I is 429 00:21:31,948 --> 00:21:35,668 Speaker 1: a ride share with a letter? Here is the statement 430 00:21:35,868 --> 00:21:39,468 Speaker 1: and Hunter, of course they have blamed him on the 431 00:21:39,588 --> 00:21:43,428 Speaker 1: front seats, the one who called it or dialed it up. However, 432 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:46,548 Speaker 1: you want to Renfro ride share this this car? Come 433 00:21:46,628 --> 00:21:52,788 Speaker 1: on ride share? Ride share? Sitting in the front seat 434 00:21:52,828 --> 00:21:55,908 Speaker 1: of a ride share car? Are we interwee out Jamie? 435 00:21:56,068 --> 00:21:57,348 Speaker 1: Is it okay to sit in the front seat? And 436 00:21:57,388 --> 00:22:00,388 Speaker 1: one of these things? I am I'm as in on 437 00:22:00,468 --> 00:22:04,668 Speaker 1: the front seat. I am in on two at him. 438 00:22:04,948 --> 00:22:07,668 Speaker 1: If I could ask the driver to get out of 439 00:22:07,748 --> 00:22:10,628 Speaker 1: the driver's seat so I could drive the car, I 440 00:22:10,708 --> 00:22:13,948 Speaker 1: would do it. I am the worst passenger. I am. 441 00:22:14,228 --> 00:22:20,148 Speaker 1: I get so car sick immediately immediately. It is like instantaneous. Yes, 442 00:22:20,428 --> 00:22:22,628 Speaker 1: so I have to get the front seat. And there 443 00:22:22,708 --> 00:22:25,108 Speaker 1: have been moments where I have been like, cert can 444 00:22:25,188 --> 00:22:27,708 Speaker 1: I just drive your car like this is no? I've 445 00:22:27,748 --> 00:22:30,468 Speaker 1: never not I know, but I have thought about doing it. 446 00:22:30,468 --> 00:22:31,748 Speaker 1: I mean, I've done it to my husband, like, well, 447 00:22:31,748 --> 00:22:33,468 Speaker 1: we'll get out, we'll switch on car. I'm like, He'll 448 00:22:33,508 --> 00:22:34,988 Speaker 1: start to go to the driver's side. I'm like, no, no, no, 449 00:22:35,148 --> 00:22:37,268 Speaker 1: it is time to go right right now. You get 450 00:22:37,348 --> 00:22:42,628 Speaker 1: in the car service You're getting in the front seat. Um, no, no. However, 451 00:22:43,588 --> 00:22:45,388 Speaker 1: that's more of it. But if there is a choice, 452 00:22:45,508 --> 00:22:49,868 Speaker 1: if somebody has to its yes, yes, but volunteers tribute. 453 00:22:49,988 --> 00:22:51,668 Speaker 1: I have a governor for like, I have like a 454 00:22:51,708 --> 00:22:53,468 Speaker 1: thirty minute limit in the back seat and I have 455 00:22:53,588 --> 00:22:55,188 Speaker 1: to keep my head like pressed against the wall and 456 00:22:55,228 --> 00:22:56,628 Speaker 1: I have to look out the window. I was like, 457 00:22:56,668 --> 00:22:58,548 Speaker 1: you got a thirty minute limit in a two star rating? 458 00:23:00,188 --> 00:23:02,388 Speaker 1: What is your rating? If you're asking a drive the 459 00:23:03,188 --> 00:23:07,188 Speaker 1: right one star first minute, doesn't. I am all out 460 00:23:07,308 --> 00:23:09,788 Speaker 1: on the front seat, especially when you have that type 461 00:23:09,828 --> 00:23:13,228 Speaker 1: of money sitting in the back of the ride chair. 462 00:23:13,388 --> 00:23:17,108 Speaker 1: You're right, Derek, car like, this guy's got the brinkch 463 00:23:17,148 --> 00:23:19,668 Speaker 1: trunk is backed up, Like, let's just call a multiple 464 00:23:19,828 --> 00:23:22,508 Speaker 1: ride chairs and then we can all mosey around and 465 00:23:22,588 --> 00:23:24,668 Speaker 1: get there. I'm all out on the front. Pay someone 466 00:23:24,828 --> 00:23:28,268 Speaker 1: to drive one of your own nice cars. Shouldn't DeVante 467 00:23:28,428 --> 00:23:30,748 Speaker 1: be offering them a chopper or something like that, where, yeah, 468 00:23:30,868 --> 00:23:33,188 Speaker 1: I think it's perfect that that hunter Renferrow wants to 469 00:23:33,228 --> 00:23:35,268 Speaker 1: be as close to their ride chair driver because he 470 00:23:35,348 --> 00:23:38,308 Speaker 1: looks like one. Probably that's really the guy I will 471 00:23:38,348 --> 00:23:40,188 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to go front seat if you're with 472 00:23:40,268 --> 00:23:42,588 Speaker 1: the family or somebody that four people. Yeah, it's like 473 00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:44,428 Speaker 1: if you just decide to do it willingly and you're 474 00:23:44,428 --> 00:23:46,348 Speaker 1: the only path, then you're a serial killer. Then you're 475 00:23:46,388 --> 00:23:49,068 Speaker 1: like Harlan Williams and seven minute Albs. But I do 476 00:23:49,228 --> 00:23:51,828 Speaker 1: like sometimes when you catch the driver off guard because 477 00:23:51,868 --> 00:23:55,668 Speaker 1: he's got that thing all the way up and forty too, 478 00:23:55,748 --> 00:23:59,068 Speaker 1: and then also he's got his personal belongings. He's got 479 00:23:59,188 --> 00:24:01,388 Speaker 1: candies and waters and pictures of his kids in his 480 00:24:01,588 --> 00:24:03,788 Speaker 1: lunch and the tupper ware, and he's like, oh we 481 00:24:03,868 --> 00:24:06,988 Speaker 1: are front was one seater. I once swam to the 482 00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:09,028 Speaker 1: front seat because there was with multiple people. I opened 483 00:24:09,068 --> 00:24:11,508 Speaker 1: it up and there was a soccer ball, a basketball 484 00:24:11,548 --> 00:24:13,108 Speaker 1: and a tennis run it in the front seat, and 485 00:24:13,148 --> 00:24:18,348 Speaker 1: I'm like, stay inactive, what do we do it? He's 486 00:24:18,348 --> 00:24:20,148 Speaker 1: a quick one. Why why wouldn't he not go with 487 00:24:20,228 --> 00:24:23,388 Speaker 1: the rideshare XL or ride share black or like one 488 00:24:23,468 --> 00:24:31,548 Speaker 1: of those. Come on, Hunter whay, fake Cousin's is gonna 489 00:24:31,628 --> 00:24:33,428 Speaker 1: roll right, He's gonna look at the football and the 490 00:24:33,588 --> 00:24:38,228 Speaker 1: accepted kJ Right reaches up about thirteen feet in the 491 00:24:38,308 --> 00:24:45,548 Speaker 1: air over the top. Ball pipped up. kJ intercepted kJ Right. 492 00:24:46,508 --> 00:24:50,308 Speaker 1: The throat underneath the boom knocked on. Here's wallet by 493 00:24:50,788 --> 00:24:54,828 Speaker 1: kJ Right is Patrick stamp Strong Truss intercepted JJ Wright. 494 00:24:55,148 --> 00:25:01,308 Speaker 1: Holy smoke, kJ Right, that's the man right there. He went, 495 00:25:01,428 --> 00:25:03,948 Speaker 1: use check and fits magic back to back Harvard dudes 496 00:25:03,948 --> 00:25:05,788 Speaker 1: and jack him up. All right, We love the Scott. 497 00:25:05,988 --> 00:25:08,628 Speaker 1: He was a young kid out of Mississippi who loved 498 00:25:08,668 --> 00:25:11,468 Speaker 1: playing football in his grandmother's front yard. Later became a 499 00:25:11,548 --> 00:25:14,788 Speaker 1: pro bowler, a Super Bowl champion, and the Seahawks Man 500 00:25:15,068 --> 00:25:19,068 Speaker 1: of the Year. Please welcome recently retired NFL linebacker in 501 00:25:19,108 --> 00:25:23,428 Speaker 1: front of the show, kJ right man going on going on, 502 00:25:24,028 --> 00:25:27,588 Speaker 1: how y'all doing you? You big things in your life? 503 00:25:27,748 --> 00:25:30,428 Speaker 1: You played and I like how you described this eleven 504 00:25:30,748 --> 00:25:34,668 Speaker 1: quick football seasons. Last Thursday you announced your retirement. Why 505 00:25:34,748 --> 00:25:36,428 Speaker 1: did it feel quick? And how do you feel now? 506 00:25:37,588 --> 00:25:40,668 Speaker 1: It went by super fast and I'm still on cloud nine. 507 00:25:40,908 --> 00:25:43,268 Speaker 1: I'm still on cloud nine just to have that moment 508 00:25:43,388 --> 00:25:46,708 Speaker 1: to just close that chapter. I had my family there, 509 00:25:46,868 --> 00:25:50,468 Speaker 1: wiping kids, all my teammates, athletic trainers. I had so 510 00:25:50,508 --> 00:25:52,428 Speaker 1: many people I want to thank for over the years 511 00:25:52,868 --> 00:25:55,068 Speaker 1: and to get my flowers while I was planning to 512 00:25:55,188 --> 00:25:58,028 Speaker 1: close that chapter and literally just think everyone, because so 513 00:25:58,108 --> 00:26:00,708 Speaker 1: many people went into my success. I couldn't have did 514 00:26:00,748 --> 00:26:03,148 Speaker 1: it without those people. Just for me to get out 515 00:26:03,188 --> 00:26:05,588 Speaker 1: the game healthy, get out the game knowing that I 516 00:26:05,668 --> 00:26:08,148 Speaker 1: could still play. But I just think it's time to 517 00:26:08,228 --> 00:26:10,268 Speaker 1: close this chapter. Just meant the world to me, and 518 00:26:10,308 --> 00:26:12,148 Speaker 1: so for the Seals give me that one day contract. 519 00:26:12,388 --> 00:26:16,228 Speaker 1: That was pretty big. Yeah, for sure, I think continue 520 00:26:16,268 --> 00:26:18,708 Speaker 1: to have opportunities, but being able to walk around your 521 00:26:18,748 --> 00:26:22,108 Speaker 1: own terms it's huge. But no matter how long you play, 522 00:26:22,148 --> 00:26:25,308 Speaker 1: it's never easy to walk away and transition out of 523 00:26:25,348 --> 00:26:28,228 Speaker 1: the game. It took me months to come to that decision, 524 00:26:28,308 --> 00:26:30,988 Speaker 1: and having a major surgery last year, I kind of 525 00:26:31,028 --> 00:26:33,388 Speaker 1: put the writing on the wall from me, what all 526 00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:36,268 Speaker 1: went into your decision to ultimately walk away from the game. 527 00:26:37,748 --> 00:26:39,668 Speaker 1: For me, it came down to my family. I knew 528 00:26:39,708 --> 00:26:42,508 Speaker 1: that the way that this free agency draining would go, 529 00:26:42,908 --> 00:26:45,268 Speaker 1: the teams to wait until training camp or into the 530 00:26:45,348 --> 00:26:48,348 Speaker 1: season to sign me, and I did that last year. 531 00:26:48,428 --> 00:26:50,708 Speaker 1: Last year, I went to Vegas and they signed me 532 00:26:50,788 --> 00:26:52,948 Speaker 1: week one of the regular season, and I had no 533 00:26:53,188 --> 00:26:55,748 Speaker 1: time to get my family situated and bring a method 534 00:26:55,828 --> 00:26:57,988 Speaker 1: with me. So I was at there by myself in 535 00:26:58,148 --> 00:27:00,388 Speaker 1: Vegas and that was not fun at all. And I 536 00:27:00,508 --> 00:27:03,108 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not doing that again. And so I 537 00:27:03,228 --> 00:27:06,668 Speaker 1: knew that it would either be Seattle or retirement. And 538 00:27:06,788 --> 00:27:09,588 Speaker 1: so I went to the Seahawks and say, hey, twelth year, 539 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,548 Speaker 1: would love to make it happen with you guys, And 540 00:27:11,908 --> 00:27:14,068 Speaker 1: they were transparent and said, kJ, we love you, we 541 00:27:14,228 --> 00:27:16,428 Speaker 1: respect you, but we just can't do it. And so 542 00:27:16,588 --> 00:27:18,948 Speaker 1: I said, if it's not what you guys, then I'm 543 00:27:19,028 --> 00:27:21,188 Speaker 1: not gonna play football by myself again. So I just 544 00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:25,948 Speaker 1: up and retire and retire, as the Seahawk Man has 545 00:27:26,028 --> 00:27:28,908 Speaker 1: not often talked about. I can remember my Cleveland days 546 00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:31,868 Speaker 1: of just sitting in the hotel room on FaceTime with 547 00:27:31,988 --> 00:27:34,348 Speaker 1: my family. They're not paying any attention to me, but 548 00:27:34,508 --> 00:27:36,388 Speaker 1: at least let me feel like I was still in 549 00:27:36,508 --> 00:27:39,148 Speaker 1: the room. So I can definitely relate to you. And 550 00:27:39,508 --> 00:27:42,228 Speaker 1: like you said, both family men, you have three kids. 551 00:27:42,308 --> 00:27:44,908 Speaker 1: I have three kids. I know when my decision came 552 00:27:44,988 --> 00:27:47,148 Speaker 1: down to my kids. They didn't really care, but my 553 00:27:47,308 --> 00:27:49,508 Speaker 1: wife just wanted me to be at peace. My mom 554 00:27:49,948 --> 00:27:52,268 Speaker 1: was excited for what was to come next for you. 555 00:27:52,548 --> 00:27:55,268 Speaker 1: What was the reactions like from your family and how 556 00:27:55,308 --> 00:27:57,788 Speaker 1: all of that kind of transpired as you decided to 557 00:27:58,148 --> 00:28:01,348 Speaker 1: walk away. Yeah, it was all different from each family member. 558 00:28:01,628 --> 00:28:04,708 Speaker 1: The one the ticket the hardest was my dad. He was, man, 559 00:28:04,788 --> 00:28:07,068 Speaker 1: are you sure you can still play? I know you 560 00:28:07,108 --> 00:28:09,228 Speaker 1: can still down Like Dad, I can't still play, but 561 00:28:09,428 --> 00:28:12,108 Speaker 1: it's just time to hang it up. Because he's literally 562 00:28:12,148 --> 00:28:16,068 Speaker 1: seen every football game I played from peewee to my 563 00:28:16,188 --> 00:28:19,308 Speaker 1: last PROBA. My dad's watched every game, so he kind 564 00:28:19,308 --> 00:28:21,268 Speaker 1: of took it the hardest. But my wife, she was 565 00:28:21,628 --> 00:28:23,708 Speaker 1: she was egging me on to retire. She was like, 566 00:28:24,108 --> 00:28:26,228 Speaker 1: why are you what are you doing? I was working 567 00:28:26,228 --> 00:28:27,548 Speaker 1: out early in the off season. She was like, you 568 00:28:27,588 --> 00:28:29,988 Speaker 1: look so tired. She's like, baby, it's okay to move on, 569 00:28:30,588 --> 00:28:32,948 Speaker 1: And so she just gave me that extra boots and 570 00:28:33,028 --> 00:28:35,428 Speaker 1: that was worse of insurance, like, I know you've done 571 00:28:35,468 --> 00:28:38,268 Speaker 1: this since since shodhood, but babe, it'll be okay. You 572 00:28:38,308 --> 00:28:40,628 Speaker 1: can hang it up now and run off in the sunset. 573 00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:44,668 Speaker 1: You should be so proud. It's such a great career. 574 00:28:44,828 --> 00:28:46,508 Speaker 1: And it's crazy we're talking about in the past, Tense. 575 00:28:46,508 --> 00:28:48,028 Speaker 1: I remember when you were first coming in the league 576 00:28:48,068 --> 00:28:52,348 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks teams were so vibrant, so young, lookout 577 00:28:52,388 --> 00:28:54,548 Speaker 1: and gosh, I look at that team now. You know 578 00:28:54,628 --> 00:28:56,788 Speaker 1: they parted the ways with you, perhaps earlier than when 579 00:28:56,788 --> 00:28:59,228 Speaker 1: they thought they should. A couple of years ago, trained 580 00:28:59,308 --> 00:29:03,468 Speaker 1: Rush Wilson, they release Bobby Wagner. Yet Pete is still 581 00:29:03,468 --> 00:29:06,548 Speaker 1: the coach. I don't it's hard to come. Is it 582 00:29:06,628 --> 00:29:08,988 Speaker 1: a rebuild? Is it not a rebuild? Pete hilarity seems 583 00:29:09,028 --> 00:29:10,468 Speaker 1: to not be wanting to go away, Like what do 584 00:29:10,548 --> 00:29:12,668 Speaker 1: you make to the state of the Seahawks football team 585 00:29:12,748 --> 00:29:14,548 Speaker 1: right now? It what appears to be a turning of 586 00:29:14,588 --> 00:29:16,948 Speaker 1: the page, But still the seventy year old head coach 587 00:29:17,228 --> 00:29:19,828 Speaker 1: in the saddle. I'm telling the coach Carroll's going to 588 00:29:19,868 --> 00:29:22,028 Speaker 1: be there as long as he wants. He is the man. 589 00:29:22,388 --> 00:29:25,068 Speaker 1: And when we talk about when we talk about rebuild, 590 00:29:25,148 --> 00:29:27,988 Speaker 1: that is not in his vocabulary. That is nine Coach 591 00:29:27,988 --> 00:29:30,668 Speaker 1: carrolls telling about rebuild and hit the reset button. This 592 00:29:30,788 --> 00:29:34,428 Speaker 1: team is going to Anderson believe they can sneak into 593 00:29:34,468 --> 00:29:37,068 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I believe they have a young, hungry team. 594 00:29:37,148 --> 00:29:39,708 Speaker 1: They hear the naysayers, they hear all the doubters that 595 00:29:39,828 --> 00:29:42,588 Speaker 1: they're going to have a five and you know twelve season, 596 00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:45,228 Speaker 1: this team can make some noise. A young hungry team 597 00:29:45,908 --> 00:29:48,668 Speaker 1: at quarterback, this is gonna be We're gonna see how 598 00:29:48,668 --> 00:29:51,708 Speaker 1: it looks with Jeno, Withdrew. Both of these guys haven't 599 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,348 Speaker 1: gotten off to the career that they wanted to, so 600 00:29:53,828 --> 00:29:55,548 Speaker 1: they have got to prove that they could take this 601 00:29:55,668 --> 00:29:59,108 Speaker 1: team to a successful seventeen game season. A young, hungry 602 00:29:59,108 --> 00:30:01,308 Speaker 1: team on defense and supposed to be fun to watch 603 00:30:01,388 --> 00:30:03,908 Speaker 1: some teams with. So with this seventh team in the playoffs, 604 00:30:04,588 --> 00:30:09,188 Speaker 1: not be surprised that the Seahawks to make a serious playoff. Pushed, Oh, 605 00:30:09,468 --> 00:30:13,428 Speaker 1: you're haught it. You heard it? You you you tell 606 00:30:13,788 --> 00:30:15,948 Speaker 1: all right? You know we clip things off your KIDGI 607 00:30:16,068 --> 00:30:18,868 Speaker 1: when you make you relive it, if when it's true 608 00:30:18,868 --> 00:30:20,708 Speaker 1: and sometimes when it's ugly. So we're gonna hold you 609 00:30:20,748 --> 00:30:23,028 Speaker 1: to it. But you mentioned those two guys, Gino Smith 610 00:30:23,068 --> 00:30:24,948 Speaker 1: and Drew Locke, and you said their names for a reason. 611 00:30:25,028 --> 00:30:27,948 Speaker 1: It's because Russell Wilson is not there. He's in Denver. 612 00:30:28,188 --> 00:30:30,708 Speaker 1: You played plenty of time with him. You know the 613 00:30:30,868 --> 00:30:34,068 Speaker 1: kind of Russell Wilson effect he can have on a building. 614 00:30:34,908 --> 00:30:37,908 Speaker 1: How do you think the Seahawks culture changed with Russell? 615 00:30:38,268 --> 00:30:39,828 Speaker 1: And what do you think the kind of presence he 616 00:30:39,868 --> 00:30:41,668 Speaker 1: will have for the Broncos in the locker room will 617 00:30:41,668 --> 00:30:44,788 Speaker 1: be right. I was there when Russ first got there, 618 00:30:44,828 --> 00:30:46,948 Speaker 1: and you could tell when this first few days, It's 619 00:30:47,028 --> 00:30:49,548 Speaker 1: like this dude has something special about him. He just 620 00:30:49,668 --> 00:30:52,788 Speaker 1: has this it factor that you want at the quarterback position. 621 00:30:52,988 --> 00:30:54,548 Speaker 1: And so when he first got there, it was Russell 622 00:30:54,668 --> 00:30:58,388 Speaker 1: versus Matt Plan and it was not even close. Everyone's like, 623 00:30:58,828 --> 00:31:01,548 Speaker 1: this is our quarterback and he just has that contagious, 624 00:31:01,628 --> 00:31:04,948 Speaker 1: just positive energy. He says, the it factor. No matter 625 00:31:05,068 --> 00:31:06,748 Speaker 1: what's the situation in the game, we could be down 626 00:31:06,828 --> 00:31:09,828 Speaker 1: twenty points with a minute left, Russell thinks that he 627 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:12,068 Speaker 1: could pull off this victory. And so you just watch 628 00:31:12,148 --> 00:31:14,508 Speaker 1: him just his passionate he brings to the table, his 629 00:31:14,668 --> 00:31:17,508 Speaker 1: love for his teammates, love for his community, the guys 630 00:31:17,668 --> 00:31:19,708 Speaker 1: is just truly special. And so I can't wait to 631 00:31:19,748 --> 00:31:21,708 Speaker 1: see how he does in Denver. He's going to a 632 00:31:22,068 --> 00:31:25,308 Speaker 1: very competitive division, and so I cannot wait to see 633 00:31:25,388 --> 00:31:27,628 Speaker 1: him go against Patrick Mahomes twice a year, dead card 634 00:31:27,748 --> 00:31:30,188 Speaker 1: justin Herbert and so I really believe that Rosse is 635 00:31:30,188 --> 00:31:32,628 Speaker 1: in a really good situation. I can't wait to see 636 00:31:32,708 --> 00:31:36,108 Speaker 1: him play some good ball this year. We can't wait either. 637 00:31:36,148 --> 00:31:38,668 Speaker 1: And yet he opens Week one against Seattle, who apparently 638 00:31:38,788 --> 00:31:41,548 Speaker 1: might be making a playoff pushed, kJ you got takes. 639 00:31:41,628 --> 00:31:43,308 Speaker 1: You have our respect. You're one of the good guys. 640 00:31:43,388 --> 00:31:45,588 Speaker 1: We are so excited and happy for you about your career. Man. 641 00:31:45,668 --> 00:31:57,548 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, no doubt. Thank you guys. All Right, 642 00:31:57,748 --> 00:32:01,028 Speaker 1: Bill's wide receiver Stefon Diggs. He may try, but he 643 00:32:01,148 --> 00:32:03,908 Speaker 1: can't get away from the cameras. This season, they'll track 644 00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:06,068 Speaker 1: him down. All eyes will be on him and Josh 645 00:32:06,148 --> 00:32:11,828 Speaker 1: Allen as the Bills look to keep their playoff streak. Hey, 646 00:32:11,988 --> 00:32:15,908 Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano Brian Ballinger are in Rochester, New York. Welcome 647 00:32:15,948 --> 00:32:18,348 Speaker 1: into the show, you guys, what can you tell us 648 00:32:18,388 --> 00:32:21,668 Speaker 1: about how Josh Allen's connection is going with Stefan Diggs 649 00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:24,988 Speaker 1: and how it's growing coming into the season. We've seen 650 00:32:24,988 --> 00:32:28,708 Speaker 1: a lot of Brian Boldinger, Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs connections here. 651 00:32:28,828 --> 00:32:30,788 Speaker 1: We've also seen a lot of great battles as well 652 00:32:30,828 --> 00:32:34,668 Speaker 1: between Stefan Diggs and the rookie corner care elam looking 653 00:32:34,748 --> 00:32:37,948 Speaker 1: forward to both of those. We've also seen Stefan Diggs 654 00:32:38,348 --> 00:32:41,828 Speaker 1: posing for photos after practice every day with babies that 655 00:32:41,948 --> 00:32:43,908 Speaker 1: people are bringing down to the field here at Saint 656 00:32:43,948 --> 00:32:48,028 Speaker 1: John Fishing. Are they gonna start naming newborn Stefan? Is 657 00:32:48,068 --> 00:32:50,348 Speaker 1: it gonna be the new Payton like? Because he's just 658 00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:53,508 Speaker 1: that likable and Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs are just 659 00:32:53,588 --> 00:32:57,508 Speaker 1: that lovable. I mean, their interaction and their love for 660 00:32:57,548 --> 00:33:00,308 Speaker 1: each other is real, it's genuine, and I think that's 661 00:33:00,308 --> 00:33:02,068 Speaker 1: a big part of the success two years ago when 662 00:33:02,108 --> 00:33:04,988 Speaker 1: Stefan first came here, he led the NFL and receiving 663 00:33:05,068 --> 00:33:07,548 Speaker 1: and touchdowns and all that. Didn't have the same numbers 664 00:33:07,628 --> 00:33:09,428 Speaker 1: last year because he spread the ball around a little 665 00:33:09,428 --> 00:33:12,148 Speaker 1: bit more. But when you need a play, I mean, 666 00:33:12,188 --> 00:33:15,148 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs can still beat anybody off the dribble. He 667 00:33:15,188 --> 00:33:17,948 Speaker 1: could still win his one on once against any corner 668 00:33:17,988 --> 00:33:20,428 Speaker 1: in this league. And you know when there scramble drill 669 00:33:20,468 --> 00:33:23,988 Speaker 1: takes off, Josh Allen is looking for Stefan Diggs. Yeah, 670 00:33:23,988 --> 00:33:25,668 Speaker 1: and he could also still crash the set as he 671 00:33:25,708 --> 00:33:28,468 Speaker 1: did on Back Together Saturday, Jamie, because he was upset 672 00:33:28,788 --> 00:33:30,788 Speaker 1: about what his brother had told me of the day 673 00:33:30,788 --> 00:33:33,468 Speaker 1: before an Ox starred that he would not get a 674 00:33:33,628 --> 00:33:37,228 Speaker 1: catch against him, not a single reception in a Bill's 675 00:33:37,428 --> 00:33:40,108 Speaker 1: Cowboys super Bowl, which fans here would certainly love to see, 676 00:33:40,108 --> 00:33:41,788 Speaker 1: and there are plenty of them practice about to get going. 677 00:33:43,428 --> 00:33:44,788 Speaker 1: We would love to see that. We saw that one 678 00:33:44,828 --> 00:33:46,908 Speaker 1: about thirty years ago, Andrew. We'd love to see a 679 00:33:46,948 --> 00:33:49,028 Speaker 1: sequel to that. And I'm just gonna tear down the 680 00:33:49,108 --> 00:33:51,628 Speaker 1: curtain here. Once a year, we all get together as 681 00:33:51,708 --> 00:33:54,148 Speaker 1: a network in Los Angeles, and you learned about each 682 00:33:54,188 --> 00:33:56,708 Speaker 1: other and you make friends and everything I learned about 683 00:33:56,748 --> 00:33:59,268 Speaker 1: Brian Balding or things that I never never thought I 684 00:33:59,348 --> 00:34:02,308 Speaker 1: needed to know, like he does like fifteen hundred stomach 685 00:34:02,348 --> 00:34:05,028 Speaker 1: crunches every day and he does them in the steam room. 686 00:34:05,468 --> 00:34:08,708 Speaker 1: I was there. I saw we had beautiful moments together. 687 00:34:09,068 --> 00:34:11,508 Speaker 1: The reason I bring it up, Baldi, is there anyone 688 00:34:11,588 --> 00:34:13,908 Speaker 1: out there, any additions for the Bills maybe that have 689 00:34:14,028 --> 00:34:17,388 Speaker 1: even that level of dedication or that kind of physical 690 00:34:17,508 --> 00:34:19,308 Speaker 1: specimen they're bringing out there, and could it be the 691 00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:23,588 Speaker 1: new addition O J. Howard nice Well, I think there's 692 00:34:23,588 --> 00:34:25,668 Speaker 1: a couple that could fall in that category, but OJ 693 00:34:25,828 --> 00:34:27,788 Speaker 1: is certainly one of them. I mean, five years in Tampa, 694 00:34:28,268 --> 00:34:31,308 Speaker 1: but never really the guy like I remember when he 695 00:34:31,348 --> 00:34:34,588 Speaker 1: came out of Alabama Andrew he stayed an extra year 696 00:34:34,628 --> 00:34:36,868 Speaker 1: to work on his blocking. I think he is a 697 00:34:36,988 --> 00:34:39,308 Speaker 1: true why a guy that can line up, you know, 698 00:34:39,428 --> 00:34:42,468 Speaker 1: next to the tackle, can handle ends and linebackers and 699 00:34:42,548 --> 00:34:45,508 Speaker 1: get stalemates. I think he's an excellent blocker. And he's 700 00:34:45,548 --> 00:34:50,228 Speaker 1: just a big, strong guy, big hands, you know, and dependable. 701 00:34:50,308 --> 00:34:52,548 Speaker 1: And so I think the tight end room with what 702 00:34:52,708 --> 00:34:54,828 Speaker 1: Dawson Knocks did a year ago with a nine touchdown 703 00:34:54,908 --> 00:34:58,148 Speaker 1: catches and really kind of blossoming in his second season, 704 00:34:58,508 --> 00:35:00,468 Speaker 1: and Tommy Tweeney, I think they got a really strong 705 00:35:00,908 --> 00:35:04,668 Speaker 1: tight end room. When the weather gets bad, four minute drill, 706 00:35:04,788 --> 00:35:06,268 Speaker 1: you gotta run the ball at the end of the game, 707 00:35:06,348 --> 00:35:09,268 Speaker 1: all those kind of things. I think O. J. Howard 708 00:35:09,348 --> 00:35:11,148 Speaker 1: can help. He was kind of a forgotten man last 709 00:35:11,188 --> 00:35:14,468 Speaker 1: year coming off the Achilles injury, really behind Gronk and 710 00:35:14,588 --> 00:35:18,028 Speaker 1: Cameron Braid. He was the third guy in Tampa. Buffalo 711 00:35:18,148 --> 00:35:20,428 Speaker 1: goes three wide maybe seventy percent of the time, which 712 00:35:20,468 --> 00:35:23,868 Speaker 1: is pretty high, but they can go twelve, Yes, they 713 00:35:23,948 --> 00:35:26,508 Speaker 1: can put him on the field. Dawson Knox is in 714 00:35:26,588 --> 00:35:28,548 Speaker 1: a contract here. He says he wants to stay here, 715 00:35:28,628 --> 00:35:33,268 Speaker 1: but he does. Yes. Twelve just for the people out there, 716 00:35:33,508 --> 00:35:37,708 Speaker 1: twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, breakdown. Just just 717 00:35:38,348 --> 00:35:41,508 Speaker 1: you know, because these these terms can be a little confusing, 718 00:35:41,548 --> 00:35:44,428 Speaker 1: a little fast. Sometimes we will have terms like those 719 00:35:44,628 --> 00:35:47,308 Speaker 1: coming up momentarily top of the hour when we have 720 00:35:47,468 --> 00:35:50,348 Speaker 1: Inside Training Camp live here with the Bills. The rain 721 00:35:50,468 --> 00:35:53,348 Speaker 1: we think has gone away, hopefully fingers crossed, the lightning 722 00:35:53,468 --> 00:35:56,108 Speaker 1: stays away as well. We have a great crowd behind 723 00:35:56,228 --> 00:35:59,388 Speaker 1: us and after practice ed Oliver maybe he rides a 724 00:35:59,428 --> 00:36:03,348 Speaker 1: horse over here, maybe not. And Tremaine Edmonds guys set 725 00:36:03,388 --> 00:36:08,148 Speaker 1: to join us live on set as well. That's awesome. 726 00:36:08,228 --> 00:36:10,348 Speaker 1: That's a jam pack show. Baldi, don't be surprised if 727 00:36:10,348 --> 00:36:12,068 Speaker 1: we rewrote you down to Miami so you can do 728 00:36:12,148 --> 00:36:14,308 Speaker 1: your crunches just in the hint at training camp in 729 00:36:14,388 --> 00:36:17,028 Speaker 1: Miami because it's not hot enough. I don't need a 730 00:36:17,028 --> 00:36:22,188 Speaker 1: steam room for that, Jamie, Yeah, exactly exactly. Guys, thank 731 00:36:22,228 --> 00:36:23,948 Speaker 1: you so much. We'll catch you on Inside Training Camp 732 00:36:24,028 --> 00:36:27,268 Speaker 1: live here in a little bit. So this Bill's team, 733 00:36:27,628 --> 00:36:31,388 Speaker 1: they're talented, They got at they are successful last season. 734 00:36:32,068 --> 00:36:34,748 Speaker 1: Is this just a foregone conclusion? Are we just mentally 735 00:36:34,908 --> 00:36:38,708 Speaker 1: fast forwarding this team to the AFC Championship? Peter? They're 736 00:36:38,708 --> 00:36:41,588 Speaker 1: really really good and they got better. Like they added 737 00:36:41,628 --> 00:36:44,348 Speaker 1: players you mentioned Oj Howard. That's a great addition to 738 00:36:44,468 --> 00:36:46,948 Speaker 1: a team that's already pretty good on offense. I think 739 00:36:47,028 --> 00:36:49,748 Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis makes a giant leap this season. He had 740 00:36:49,828 --> 00:36:52,228 Speaker 1: that great game in the division around. He's gonna take 741 00:36:52,228 --> 00:36:54,428 Speaker 1: off from there. I've been talking to folks who've been 742 00:36:54,468 --> 00:36:56,468 Speaker 1: up there in Buffalo, and they've gotten a lot of 743 00:36:56,508 --> 00:36:58,308 Speaker 1: great countriations in the rookies. I'm gonna give you a 744 00:36:58,428 --> 00:37:02,908 Speaker 1: name for the preseason, Christian Benford, sixth round corner out 745 00:37:02,948 --> 00:37:06,588 Speaker 1: of Villanova, sixth having a great camp, Christian Benford. Like 746 00:37:06,868 --> 00:37:09,668 Speaker 1: they're just adding talent tent. Last year they added Rousseau 747 00:37:09,748 --> 00:37:11,908 Speaker 1: and Basham, the two pass rushers, they had two offensive 748 00:37:11,948 --> 00:37:16,068 Speaker 1: line like. They don't lose guys, bring most of them back. 749 00:37:16,268 --> 00:37:19,188 Speaker 1: I can't really name many huge losses, and that's even 750 00:37:19,228 --> 00:37:21,868 Speaker 1: without mentioning von Miller. So I think it's fair to 751 00:37:21,868 --> 00:37:23,388 Speaker 1: look at the roster, and look at the coaching staff, 752 00:37:23,388 --> 00:37:27,188 Speaker 1: and look at that gosh darn beautiful quarterback and say, yeah, 753 00:37:27,348 --> 00:37:29,828 Speaker 1: they're gonna be really really good this year. As good 754 00:37:29,868 --> 00:37:32,028 Speaker 1: as the AFC is, they might be the best. So 755 00:37:32,228 --> 00:37:34,628 Speaker 1: to fast forward them to the AFC Championship. Okay, cool, 756 00:37:34,708 --> 00:37:37,228 Speaker 1: let's remind them into last years Super Bowl. No, they 757 00:37:37,268 --> 00:37:41,028 Speaker 1: weren't there. Okay, let's remind to last year's AFC Championship. Ope, yeah, sorry, 758 00:37:41,228 --> 00:37:44,148 Speaker 1: they weren't there. To make it a foregone conclusion that 759 00:37:44,228 --> 00:37:46,548 Speaker 1: they will be in the AFC Championship in a question 760 00:37:46,588 --> 00:37:48,948 Speaker 1: in a conference that every time we type up our 761 00:37:49,028 --> 00:37:50,588 Speaker 1: questions for the show and we talk about the AFC, 762 00:37:50,788 --> 00:37:53,188 Speaker 1: the word loaded goes in front of the AFC every 763 00:37:53,228 --> 00:37:55,708 Speaker 1: time we talk about it. This season, this conference is ridiculous. 764 00:37:56,028 --> 00:37:58,228 Speaker 1: This team won eleven and six last year in the 765 00:37:59,268 --> 00:38:02,028 Speaker 1: easiest strength of schedule in the NFL. I know they 766 00:38:02,108 --> 00:38:04,588 Speaker 1: had great postseason success, and Josh Allen is like this 767 00:38:04,868 --> 00:38:07,228 Speaker 1: unicorn now to us, And I know you proclaimed them 768 00:38:07,588 --> 00:38:09,628 Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl when you were wearing 769 00:38:09,668 --> 00:38:12,988 Speaker 1: your zubos in Las Vegas. But they're still work to 770 00:38:13,068 --> 00:38:15,828 Speaker 1: be done. I love the talents, I love the additions. 771 00:38:16,348 --> 00:38:19,948 Speaker 1: Consistency is the key here for the Bills, but is 772 00:38:19,988 --> 00:38:22,828 Speaker 1: it a foregone conclusion. I don't see it just yet. Yeah, 773 00:38:23,188 --> 00:38:25,988 Speaker 1: absolutely not. If you want to say, like, yeah, they're 774 00:38:25,988 --> 00:38:28,348 Speaker 1: gonna win the division, yeah, I'm all for that. I mean, 775 00:38:28,588 --> 00:38:31,348 Speaker 1: they outscored everybody by so much. They'd be the Dolphins 776 00:38:31,388 --> 00:38:34,628 Speaker 1: sixty one to eleven, the Jets seventy two to twenty seven. 777 00:38:34,668 --> 00:38:37,228 Speaker 1: That Pat's ninety to fifty two last year. So yeah, 778 00:38:37,268 --> 00:38:39,708 Speaker 1: you can foregone conclusions say yeah, it'll be they'll be 779 00:38:39,748 --> 00:38:41,188 Speaker 1: put in our hat and T shirt on at the 780 00:38:41,268 --> 00:38:43,388 Speaker 1: end of the season. As far as divisions, but I mean, 781 00:38:43,428 --> 00:38:47,028 Speaker 1: I hate to remind everybody, but the last thirteen seconds 782 00:38:47,068 --> 00:38:52,548 Speaker 1: of the divisional division it is. It's right here, like 783 00:38:52,988 --> 00:38:56,628 Speaker 1: they haven't gone past the divisional round with Josh Allen. 784 00:38:56,708 --> 00:38:59,868 Speaker 1: Is it a great quarterback, great looking guy, yes, for sure, 785 00:39:00,228 --> 00:39:04,428 Speaker 1: attacking defensive lineman and practice, we love it. But he 786 00:39:04,468 --> 00:39:06,828 Speaker 1: didn't get out of the divisional round and we're just 787 00:39:06,868 --> 00:39:08,548 Speaker 1: gonna put him in the conference. Do you not hear 788 00:39:08,628 --> 00:39:11,788 Speaker 1: me talk about Christian Benford? I forgot about ben They 789 00:39:11,868 --> 00:39:14,308 Speaker 1: really like him. People have been talking about people want 790 00:39:14,348 --> 00:39:20,628 Speaker 1: to played inside Lever. Yes, so it was a it 791 00:39:20,748 --> 00:39:22,428 Speaker 1: was a pretty nice hotel. I want to get a 792 00:39:22,468 --> 00:39:25,388 Speaker 1: steam in the morning. Okay, I got this. I got 793 00:39:25,508 --> 00:39:27,548 Speaker 1: a photo shoot that afternoon. So someone told me to 794 00:39:27,628 --> 00:39:30,148 Speaker 1: sweat it all out, you felt and everything or doing 795 00:39:30,188 --> 00:39:33,868 Speaker 1: your pictures. I walk in. I opened the door. The 796 00:39:34,028 --> 00:39:37,988 Speaker 1: steam it's that that that thing just hit sauna or steams. 797 00:39:38,068 --> 00:39:40,708 Speaker 1: You can't really see it. He'll tell you why that matters. 798 00:39:41,108 --> 00:39:44,268 Speaker 1: I can't see squad. I'm walking through. It's all murky 799 00:39:44,348 --> 00:39:47,348 Speaker 1: and dark, and I hear like, I'm sorry. Only I 800 00:39:47,388 --> 00:39:50,948 Speaker 1: can describe is like runting. I'm like, what the hell 801 00:39:51,308 --> 00:39:54,668 Speaker 1: was going on? How many people are in here? What 802 00:39:54,788 --> 00:39:57,668 Speaker 1: are you guys doing? So I almost left, but frank 803 00:39:57,748 --> 00:40:01,268 Speaker 1: As almost maybe I wanted in, all right, And so 804 00:40:01,428 --> 00:40:03,588 Speaker 1: I walked over and I hope I don't think he 805 00:40:03,708 --> 00:40:07,268 Speaker 1: minds me saying Baldy's just knocking out crunches in the 806 00:40:07,428 --> 00:40:10,148 Speaker 1: steam room, bang bang bang, like just and I'm like, oh, 807 00:40:10,188 --> 00:40:11,548 Speaker 1: how many of us, Like, oh I do a thousand 808 00:40:11,628 --> 00:40:14,468 Speaker 1: a day. I sat down set up shop, and I 809 00:40:14,548 --> 00:40:17,068 Speaker 1: sat there just talking about you know, whatever, the weather 810 00:40:18,348 --> 00:40:20,308 Speaker 1: just no, hell no, I'm not doing them like I'm 811 00:40:20,308 --> 00:40:22,828 Speaker 1: not made like that. I just want to relax. He's 812 00:40:22,828 --> 00:40:25,508 Speaker 1: at six hundred every couple of minutes seven hundred and 813 00:40:25,828 --> 00:40:29,628 Speaker 1: no stopping, and I was inspired. I was motivated like 814 00:40:29,788 --> 00:40:33,228 Speaker 1: an absolute machine. I feel like I became a man 815 00:40:33,308 --> 00:40:35,108 Speaker 1: in that steam room. I really did. It was awesome. 816 00:40:35,148 --> 00:40:37,308 Speaker 1: It was great. Lost in the shuffle there is what 817 00:40:37,508 --> 00:40:39,628 Speaker 1: was the photoshoot for? And where are those photos? It was? 818 00:40:39,708 --> 00:40:42,788 Speaker 1: It was this photoshoot. It was like, it's so if 819 00:40:42,868 --> 00:40:45,348 Speaker 1: you see me in my official network photo, know that 820 00:40:45,428 --> 00:40:48,268 Speaker 1: I had that post Baldy steam room glow. And that's 821 00:40:48,308 --> 00:40:50,308 Speaker 1: why I you know, I'm just like a killer