1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two thirty six, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: Episode five of Jedi Prorection of High Heart Radio. Whoa uh. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It is Friday, May thirteen. Two 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: is Friday thirteen. Most of the day the Kendrick album dropping. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: It will have dropped by the time you're listening to this. 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Maybe you're not even listening to this, you're just listening 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: to the Kendrick album. Yeah, maybe you're listening to this 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: years in the future after you've listened to the Kendrick album. 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Podcast that you can listen to at any time. That's true. 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know if that was sarcasm, 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: but I heard from my guest co host. But the 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: show never goes bad anyways. My name is Jack O'Brien. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: A K. That's great. It starts with the block chain, 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: doj and apes and some bit coin. It's the end 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: of crypto and we know it. It's the end of 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: crypto and we know it. It's the end of crypto 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: and we know it. And I feel kind of bad 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: for all the people losing money. Actually I don't feel 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: great about it. I don't feel fine. That's that for them, 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: and it's not their fault. It's complicated though. So I 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: am thrilled to be joined by a very special guest 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: co host who you've already heard from. He's and I'm 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: just gonna read the quote he told me to back 25 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: and all out of bubble gum, which is the only 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: thing I do other than kick ass, which I thought 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: was a wordy way to kind of come in, but 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm just quoting. Uh, it is the Queen of Me 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: and the King of Sting. It's DJ Daniel good Man 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: a k a. D J Daniel dot Ef. Yeah, by 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: the dip, baby, do you see a crash? I see 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: a crop opportunity, So get your crypt crypt Crypto here 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: with DJ Daniel dot eat the crypt keeper. He stays, 34 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: stays it can I just be honest real fast. I 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: hate the Crypto dot Com arena, but I loved the 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: nickname the Crypt, Like, what a great name for a stadium. 37 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: I like, you know, Staples Center was already kind of 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: like the whole you know, commercialization of this thing that 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: we like for sports, and then Crypto dot Com arena 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: is awful, But the crypt is a cool name. That's cool. Anyway, 41 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you will be sued if you helped that. You have 42 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: to use the full name trypt dot com arena. Anyways, Daniel, 43 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third and 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: eventually fourth seats, but a couple of New York Times 45 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: best selling dang authors. I'm the host of the extremely 46 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: popular YouTube series and podcast Just Between Us, where they 47 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: try to destigmatize the world one episode at a time. 48 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: It is the brilliant and talented Gabby Done and Alice 49 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: and Rascue. Hi. Hello, I'm here first and Alison will 50 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: be joining us this. This is me Gabby Done. Hi, 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Hi Done. Thank you for joining us. Oh, thank you 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: for having me? What what is new in your world? 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you in Los Angeles? I'm in Los Angeles. 54 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: I go sometimes to a remote cabin in New Jersey, 55 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: but other than that mostly in Los Angeles. A great escape, 56 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: good thing to have. Where are you, Daniel? Are you 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: in a TV? I am I'm currently in a television 58 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm actually in space right now. This is just a 59 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: fun little prank that I love to pull on Jack 60 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: is having all of my my twitch production bullshit onlines 61 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: that I can do all sorts of dumb things. Whenever 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: we're doing a podcast on smoke can turn on my 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: many faces and just kind of like hang out and 64 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: distract from what is an audio medium. This is the listeners, 65 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: but it's all for everybody here. That's for those of 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: you enjoying this on an audio platform. Daniel has a 67 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: setup where it looks like he's on television and also 68 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: in space. Indeed, maybe relative to what we're talking about 69 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: later we'll just see we will on a television in 70 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: the year that is also on Hollywood Boulevard. You nailed 71 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: it in the right, Would that be the seventies? Uh No, 72 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: it's actually a relatively recent picture. You can see the 73 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: little space the space thing over here is a little 74 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: clue and as to what era it is, and that 75 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: Ford Fusion right there on the bottom left it Ford 76 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Fusion gives you a little peek into the contemporary era 77 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: in which this picture was taken. But enough about me 78 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: and my background, Yabby, We're we're thrilled to have you here. 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. Oh thank you. I pride myself 80 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: on being able to pick out a Ford Fusion anytime 81 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: I see it in miniature. But yeah, kind of stupid 82 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: not look like I look fucking idiot. I apologize. We'll 83 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: see if we can recover over the length of the episode. 84 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: All Right, Gabby and eventually alisonwhere gonna get to know 85 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: you both a little bit better in a moment. First, 86 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things that 87 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about today. So we got a couple of 88 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: stories that in addition to hosting Bad with Money, Gabby, 89 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: you know you you both spend a lot of time 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: answering questions from your listeners. So I want to talk 91 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: to you both about just the uh, the couple of stories, 92 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: the great resignation, the great resignation I call it. I'm 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: sure you do, since you're young and cool as well, 94 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: and if we have time, the crypto collapse, and just 95 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: what you're seeing as you look at things both, you know, 96 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: trying to understand these things, but also talking talking to listeners. 97 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: I my only the only people I talked to her 98 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: like Hollywood big wigs like Matt Day. But you know, 99 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: you know you're out there talking to the peace. Yeah, no, 100 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I'm the people's prince. Um, 101 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: I understand that I'm out on the streets I'm out 102 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: on the streets talking to the average citizens. That's how 103 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: I represent. Yeah, I well, I do a podcast about money, 104 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: and we talked a lot about the Great Resignation. But 105 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: I liked that NPR. I think NPR called it the 106 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: Great Negotiate Renegotiation. Yeah, And I don't think it's people 107 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: that don't want to work. I think it's people that 108 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: are realizing that working conditions are actually incredibly unfair and 109 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: are now deciding to renegotiate what it looks like to work. 110 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: And if you are a business who cannot afford to 111 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: pay people a living wage, then you are failing as 112 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: a business, and it is not a failure of the employees. 113 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: So that's getting people to understand that has been a 114 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: little bit of an uphill battle. Yes, it has. Well, 115 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: we we're going to talk about that in just a 116 00:06:54,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: little bit. We are joined by Alice and Raskin. Also, Alison, 117 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: you missed the very exciting introduction, but you know, we 118 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: mentioned that you're both New York Times best selling authors, 119 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: and now we answer a lot of questions, and they asked, 120 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, how does it when because we're such people 121 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: of the people, Because you and I talked to the 122 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: average person. So much on just between us and I'm 123 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: bad with money. What have we been hearing from the 124 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: youth about about work and the great resignation? And I said, oh, 125 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: we hear so much because we are on the pulse. 126 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: We talked to the young people. We are basically gen 127 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: Z by association. I was saying that we've heard, you know, 128 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: a lot from people that are like, well, I just don't. 129 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: I just have realized that I've been treated unfairly my 130 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: whole life and going into the workforce. I I've seen 131 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: my parents treated unfairly, and I have decided that is 132 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: not acceptable to me. So that's what we were talking about. 133 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Do you have thoughts, Allison. We're going to get to 134 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: all that in act to this is still the preview 135 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: that that is a great preview, a great snapshot of 136 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: what we're going to be hearing. That. We have some 137 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: space space stuff. D Daniel is a real space freak, 138 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: as you can see, coming to you from space here 139 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: in my little television on Hollywood Boulevard. We're going to 140 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: talk about space as I'm currently flying through it. Yes, 141 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: we're moving on to space. We went from the ground 142 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: to space. Yes, it's it's everything in between you guys. Yeah, 143 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: but before we get to any of that, we do 144 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your 145 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: search history that is revealing about who you are or 146 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: what you're up to? Gabby, you want to kick us off? Oh, 147 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: I Harry Styles g Q is one of the last 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: things that I looked up because I'm on a gender journey. 149 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I just started testosterone, I'm I'm having and I'm trying 150 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: to find, you know, a fashion inspiration that is a 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: bit gender bending and gender fluid, and so that's one 152 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: thing that I that's the truly the last thing I googled. 153 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: TVH honestly, is quote Harry Styles g Q a great fit? 154 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, my answer, my answer is embarrassing. But because 155 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: I just had this book come out, I just keep 156 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: googling my own book. Um if people are leaving reviews 157 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: to see feedback, so that that's my real disclosure. And 158 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: then I'm currently working on my next book, which is 159 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: like an examination of marriage, and so I'm also googling 160 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: a lot of divorce lawyers and financial advisors and stuff, 161 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: and so very me centric, work centric googling happening. And 162 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: do you see a lot of Google ads now popping up. 163 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: That's like, you know, sending you relationship advice books and 164 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: things that suggest that they're listening in on your searches 165 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: of divorce attorneys. Oh no, but you know, I guess 166 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: my other dirty secret is I love to look at 167 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: engagement rings, so I get sent a lot of engage 168 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: room ring advertisement. What is something that you think is overrated? 169 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: I think being really busy is overrated. You love to 170 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: brag that they're so busy, and I'm like, oh, sucks, 171 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: sucks you. Oh yeah, I think I think having some 172 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: time just to hang out and to not be busy 173 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: and to to take a deep breath is really wonderful. 174 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: How I wrote down a bunch of things because I'm 175 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: a hater, but I'll say I wrote down, um, my 176 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: top one was having abs, which I think sounds just 177 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: like hard to maintain, hard to do. I remember it 178 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: was like, you know, such a thing in the like 179 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: nineties and early os was like you gotta be ripped. 180 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: But as I got older, I realized what goes into 181 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: being ripped. And it's like you can't eat anything, you 182 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: can't of any time in the day you that's all 183 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: you can think about is your body. And nothing else. 184 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: And I'm if you have abs, find good for you, 185 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: that's something you like. But I just think it's I 186 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: just think having abs as like a metric for health 187 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: is incredibly overrated. And and I don't it's not that 188 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: don't impress me much as Shanna Plaine wants said bringing 189 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: it back to Harry styles, Yeah, like who like honestly 190 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: like people with men with abs and women with abs 191 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: are like in superhero movies and you're like, wow, good 192 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: for you, but like that, And then I think Hollywood 193 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: is like, that's who you want to can I say 194 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: a bad word, Yes, that's who you want to fuck. 195 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: And it's like, that's not actually who you want to fuck, 196 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: but thank you for showing this does And nobody fux 197 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: them in the movies. Nobody. They're commun sexless movies, Like 198 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: the camera doesn't even want to suck them. They're just 199 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, vaguely hot people who seem completely a sexual. 200 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: It's completely beauty standards are completely to connected from who's 201 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: actually having sex. And that's my thesis. And I'm running 202 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: for president. You have, thank you so much. Both of 203 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: those overrated's also seemed to be in conjunction. It's like, 204 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: have some time for your leisure because we don't necessarily 205 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: care about having abs anymore. It's like, oh my god, 206 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't have to spend my one waking hour going 207 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: to the gym to work on my ABS. I can 208 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: hang out and maybe explore space. I just remembered like hearing, 209 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: especially the honesty that comes with it now, like when 210 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: like Kumal Nan Johnny was like, oh I did nothing 211 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: else but have the get these abs and it sucked, 212 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, exactly, so funny. I almost picked diets 213 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: as my answer for it. There's something all right over it, 214 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: yea over it. Just starve yourself to the point where 215 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: you have no energy and then but you have abs 216 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: and so like as you're nodding off, you can look 217 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: down and like see you're you're cool and ABS doesn't 218 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: even mean healthy. I don't know what we got all 219 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: screwed up in the early Yeah. I think there was 220 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: a episode of the Doughe Boys podcast where they had Chris, 221 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: we're not pine, what's what's the Chris Chris Pratt Chris Pratt, Yeah, 222 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: and Dan, you're a Doughe Boys listener, Dope Boys efficient 223 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: auto over here. When Chris Pratt came on, wasn't he 224 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of honest about how to suck? All he wanted 225 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: to do was like the other food that he wanted 226 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: to eat, and was just like, Nope, can't do that. Yeah, 227 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: I have to just look hot for you know, Guardians 228 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: of the Galaxy. Honestly, because I'm on my way to 229 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: male beauty standards, I'm maybe getting out ahead of it. 230 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm like a year immediately. Yeah, like in a year. O. 231 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: Like I've been on toes saucerone for a year, and 232 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: I'll be like, am sucked? Right? I've been singing that 233 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: tune for a year? How do you want to make 234 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: sure the male beauty standards are ready? When you're Ru'm 235 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: just let the water cooler go and like, you know 236 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: what we hate? What's What's something you think is underrated? 237 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: My answer is asking for help. I love to ask 238 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: for help. I do it all the time, and I 239 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: think people are so uncomfortable doing it or view it 240 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: as a weakness, and I'm like, oh man, just ask 241 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: for help. I'm recovering from pretty major knee surgery and 242 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: I've had to have people help me a lot along 243 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: the way. And when I landed in New York. I 244 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: went landed in LaGuardia during my book tour and I 245 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: my mom was traveling with me, which was so nice, 246 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: and she was like, you know what, we should just 247 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: get you a wheelchair for here because this airport's too big. 248 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, I felt like kind of bad 249 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: about it. I was like, well, I could technically do that. 250 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: I could technically walk and I could technically you know, 251 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: and she was like, just get the wheelchair. And I 252 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, yeah, I've seen you. I think you 253 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: definitely could use the wheelchair for sure. Yes, she'll live 254 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: you're still limping, Like, you don't have to push yourself 255 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: if you're still limping, Allison. Yeah, it's just like it's 256 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: lovely and also allowing people the opportunity to help you, 257 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, like when I find out that like friends 258 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: or loved ones have gone through something and like not 259 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: ask me for help when I could have made me 260 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: done something or I feel sad. I love when people 261 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: ask me to help out. Yeah, that's I I agree. 262 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: That is the secret to like a lot of people 263 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: who I knew, I've known like my whole adult life, 264 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: and they're very successful and the thing that they seem 265 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: to be really good at is just being being like, oh, 266 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid at all to ask you know, a company, 267 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: a person, whatever it is. I'm just like, yeah, this, 268 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: like most people will say yes. And then there's also 269 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: this dynamic where I think it was like Benjamin Franklin 270 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: talked about it, where by asking someone to do you 271 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: a favor, they are more likely to like you in 272 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: the long run, which sounds like a weird like yeah, yeah, exactly, 273 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: it's like Dale Carnegie bullshit. But also I think it 274 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: reveals something about what you're saying that, like, people do 275 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: like to help if you, if you give them a 276 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: chance to. So it also like weirdly builds intimacy, you know, 277 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: to be there for someone. It kind of strengthens your relationship. Yeah, 278 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: how about you, Gabby, what is something you think is underrated? Uh? Joy, 279 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: And here's what I'll say, Here's what I'll say. I've 280 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: got it. I've gotta rant ready. Oh boy, Gabby loves 281 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: to have a big lead into whatever they say be 282 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the answer. Now on our podcast together that me and 283 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Allison do just between us, I call it conspiracy corner, 284 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: where I'm like, get ready for conspiracy corner. And then 285 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I get up with whatever conspiracy I want to talk 286 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: about for ten minutes while Alison just not. So I'm 287 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: not gonna do that to you guys. But I a 288 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: friend of mine, two friends of mine, wrote a movie 289 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: called Crush that's on Hulu. It's a movie that is 290 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: just pure queer joy. It's just a lovely film, right, 291 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: And the New York Times person reviewed it, and I 292 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: don't know her sexuality, but I'm gonna I think I 293 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: believe me. I went a little bit crazy and I 294 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: looked into her, and I think she is straight. And 295 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: the point that I want to make is that I 296 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: took a lot of issue with the review of the 297 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: film because of one word in it, which is flimsy. 298 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: She calls the film flimsy. Now to me, let's zoom out. 299 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: To call a film that is full of happiness and 300 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: joy and love flimsy sucks to me. And two, especially 301 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: at a time when queer youth are so under attack, 302 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: when trance kids are so under attack, when anti LGBT 303 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: legislation towards kids is so heightened and so in the news. 304 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: Even if it doesn't get past it still creates an 305 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: environment where queer kids to believe that they are less 306 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: than because the government is even considering this stuff, because 307 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: the news covers like trans swimmer and what does this 308 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: mean and whatever, to like not have the context of 309 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: the political situation right now, of the daily zeitgeist, as 310 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: it were. To call a film like that flimsy is 311 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: at best irresponsible, at worst homophobic. Thank you damn here 312 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: here and now everybody listening, it's to go watch crush. 313 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: That sounds more than that. Make more queer movies that 314 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: are joyful, make more in general, movies about young people 315 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: that are joyful. Thank you, there you go. Yeah. I 316 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: saw so much pushback about like Lost City, where even 317 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: people who like really loved it are like, well, yeah, 318 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's not a good movie, but I loved it, 319 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: And that's like, no, if you loved it, it was 320 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: a good movie, thank you. It's not that like, yeah, 321 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's not tackling like world younger and like horrible sadness. 322 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: But it is very hard to create something that people enjoy. 323 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: So if someone enjoys it, then it is well done. 324 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: It might just be a different genre than what we 325 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: nominate for the Oscars. You can have fun at the 326 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: movies and it doesn't have to be like I just 327 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: think like where I'm over trauma porn, Yeah, I think that, yeah, absolutely, 328 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: And it's and it's a skill to make something that 329 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: makes you happy, Like it's like, oh, I didn't try 330 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: at all, and I just made a two hour film 331 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: that everyone giggled at and loved and felt happy during. 332 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: But oh that's a piece of trash. Like it's correct. 333 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: It can be really interesting to see what the Oscars 334 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: do with everything everywhere, all at once, which is very 335 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: universally beloved, critically acclaimed. It does not It is a 336 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: shot of joy, just like adrenaline, enjoy like to to 337 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the heart and also makes you cry. But I do 338 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: wonder if the Oscars will be able to make room 339 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: for that. And they're cold, shriveled heart talk overrated the Oscars. 340 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: But and this comes from an Oscars gay. I love 341 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: the Oscars. Everything I love is attacked. I'm a Disney gay, 342 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm an Oscar's gay and everything is just ruined. So 343 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: hey worth fighting for? I thought you were just about 344 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: to say. And this comes from an Academy Award winner, 345 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: w I won for a conspiracy corner. Actually yeah, it's 346 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: a classic Best personal Documentary, classic loved it. All right, 347 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. 348 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: And we're back, and um. There was a story, I 349 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: think late last week about the fact that the great resignation, 350 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: the great resignation, is getting older. I still feel like 351 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: in this web so thrilled to have you both here 352 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: to talk to us about this, I still feel like 353 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guesswork going on. I don't know 354 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: if it's intentional obfuscation by the media, because the facts 355 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: are pretty straightforward that companies don't pay people enough, and 356 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: that's not the narrative they want to tell. You know that, 357 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: like we've gone, we've gotten to a place where corporations 358 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: have so much power that they can just raise prices 359 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: and leave pay like at a unsustainable, like unlivable wage. 360 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: But it does still seem like a lot of guessing. 361 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: So what we have now is that between the first 362 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: quarter of the greatest growth in resignations was among people 363 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: aged forty to sixty and those with a tenure or 364 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: more than ten years, with over one thousand employees being 365 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: say Apple, so older and more tenured people especially likely 366 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: to be quitting, and knowledge worker industries like finance and tech, 367 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: so that's and that adds a new wrinkle that I 368 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: I don't think I head fit into my model necessarily 369 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: because I thought it was more young people who were, 370 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, working in these industries that just had stagnant wages. 371 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: But it does feel like it is kind of becoming 372 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: and across the board. Fuck it like for for all 373 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: generations and all types of workers. But yeah, you know, 374 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: Gabio is great to hear you talk about sort of 375 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: what you've seen from your listeners and from your Bad 376 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: with Money shows. But yeah, just curious to kind of 377 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: get you guys thoughts on on this story. Well, one 378 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: of the things I think it was interesting that that 379 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: article touched on was that, you know, for that age group, 380 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: it's different to leave work because you have me be 381 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: more of a security net. You've maybe had more money 382 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: saved up from having worked for decades, and then also 383 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: you might be married and so you can rely on 384 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: on your partners income, so it's not like as necessarily 385 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: scary or risky to leave these jobs that maybe you've 386 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: had as part of your identity for so long. And 387 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: that's what's really interesting, right, is that for so many people, 388 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: especially older people, like your job is your identity, it's 389 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: who you are, it's the way that you see the world. 390 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: And for people to be taking these risks to leave 391 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: those jobs, I think really speaks to probably how horrible 392 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: the job was in the first place, you know, and 393 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: that the pandemic I think has really provided this opportunity 394 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: for people to reassess what matters to them and what 395 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of life they want to live, you know, for 396 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: the rest of however much time we all have, and 397 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that it will will start some larger conversations 398 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: around work life balance and how to engage in the 399 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: world as a full person and not just an employe. 400 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: I eat, but I there's still a lot of work 401 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: to be done there. Yeah. I think there's a difference 402 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: between obviously, like sixty year olds and forty year olds, 403 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: And what stuck out to me was the forty year 404 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: olds because I think gen X in particular is incredibly erased. 405 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: We don't talk about how they were. We talked about 406 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: how millennials were sold in American Dream, But gen X 407 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: was sold in American Dream with even like less stability 408 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: I think than millennials, and they were prom you know, 409 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: Millennials were like going to the workforce, whereas I think 410 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: gen X was more promised like buy a house, have 411 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: a family, and that those are some people that I 412 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: think are now like my way just haven't changed since 413 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: like the nineties, and now realizing that maybe that these 414 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: older groups are influenced by what they're seeing from gen Z, 415 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: which is like, hey, politically this doesn't make sense, and 416 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: you're now not able to afford your mortgage, and now 417 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: you're not able to you know, have as the children 418 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: that you want to have or send those kids to college. 419 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: So I I oftentimes in my research, you know, we 420 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: talk a lot about millennials, we talk a lot about boomers, 421 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: and um, I think jen X got a real short 422 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: end of the stick in terms of what what sort 423 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: of reality and future they were they were told to 424 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: have so and and I think they're the group that, 425 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: like I think of the movie office space, like, they're 426 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: the group that was sort of you go in, your 427 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: boss sucks, like you get your you know, your coffee, 428 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: your boss is going to be shipped to you. There's 429 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: the fantasy that you leave and you steal money and 430 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But that's like that's being seen as 431 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: a fantasy for that age group is like said, right, yeah, 432 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: they never figured out how to round that penny down 433 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: of dollars. Yeah, I think sometimes, like what what we're 434 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: talking about with a lot of this is that well Miles, 435 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: who the normal co host of the show out today 436 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: but put this story together, was saying that, you know, 437 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: there's probably some psychological things with them knowing, you know, 438 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: with the pandemic, them just statistically knowing more people who 439 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: have been gotten very sick or died from the pandemic, 440 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: So that probably puts you in more of a midlife 441 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: crisis e zone. But just what those industries, what working 442 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: in finance like does to your soul, Like that That's 443 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: something that I had noticed among the I I talked 444 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: on here a lot about how a lot of the 445 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: smartest people that I went to high school and college 446 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: with went into finance right away. And like, that's a 447 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: bummer to me because that's not actually adding much real 448 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: value back into the world or adding that much joy 449 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: into the world. But I I know also a lot 450 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: of people who were them like I'm gonna just quit 451 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: and go become a teacher because I fucking hate this. 452 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: I hate my life. And then you can't compound on 453 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: top of that the you know, loneliness epidemic that we have, 454 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: like at least partially because of the social media, And 455 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: I feel like there's just sort of this boiling point 456 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: of fuck it that that we're seeing kind of across 457 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: the board. You don't want to make money for a 458 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: boss that is just you watch Getting Rich, right. Finance 459 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: and tech are places where you're the middleman and you're 460 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: making money for a boss that you know as a billionaire, 461 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: and that must suck. Also, I know a lot of 462 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: people just I started my podcast Bad with Money not 463 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: knowing really anything about money, and now it's on about 464 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: like season ten or eleven. And I've been consistently shocked 465 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: over the years by how little finance people actually do right. 466 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: They're not. You think of them as these brilliant people 467 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: that must be doing something to keep the economy going, 468 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of what their job is is just 469 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: clicking a button every so often. And and I don't 470 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: think they want us to know that. But the amount 471 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: of what a hedge fund manager does is little to nothing, 472 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: like a trade day trader, little to nothing, I think. 473 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: So it's kind of wild too. Maybe they go into 474 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: these spaces where that are so optimistic tech. Oh my god, 475 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: we're going to change the world. We're theirness whatever um. 476 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: And then it's so easy to get disillusioned. We are 477 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: all fairness, we are all fairness. But it's also really 478 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: hard because these these jobs that do give bath, like 479 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: teachers are not able to make a living wage. So 480 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: then it's like, Okay, I do want to give back, 481 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: I do want to be a productive part of society, 482 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: but then you're not rewarded for it, and then you're 483 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: just struggling financially, which has like a huge emotional impact. Correct. 484 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a lose lose in a lot 485 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: of ways with these different industries. And I think this 486 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: time is into the crypto plunge and just maybe it 487 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: only ties them because this is the only time I 488 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: read about like finances is when crypto plunging, And I'm like, so, 489 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: what are they saying about it now? Because the stuff 490 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: that I can understand about it that isn't you know, 491 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: in all this code is basically like, well, there's not 492 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: really anything there. There's no there there, So there's not 493 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: nothing of value that is being traded. It's just kind 494 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: of the idea of it. And so I always wanna 495 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: go look and see, Like, what are are they saying 496 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: that too? Like there there's this Forbes writer whose byline 497 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: bio is I write about how bitcoin, crypto and blockchain 498 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: can change the world. And so I've enjoyed reading their 499 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: account of what's happening, and I couldn't understand almost any 500 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: of it. But they've been in this. I've been deep, 501 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: deep in this, you guys, If you want more information 502 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: about what's going on, there is a great YouTube video. 503 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: I was going to recommend this at the end, but 504 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: it's uh. It's called The Line Goes Up and it's 505 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: by Dan Olson, Folding Ideas. It's two hours and fifteen 506 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: minutes long. It is worth every second. He is incredible 507 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: and I'm actually gonna have him on as a guest 508 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: on Bad with Money. The video has seven million views. 509 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: It did Gangbusters. It explains everything in such a great way. 510 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I've watched it twice. It is my Lord of the Rings. 511 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: Uh it is it is. It explains everything in a 512 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: way that like you're not going to understand a hundred 513 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: percent of it, but you're going to. It just explains 514 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: everything in in in a way that is accessible. And 515 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've had I've had this struggle where I 516 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: also interviewed someone for my show who is an n 517 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: f T artist, and you know, she's a trans woman. 518 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm a transmasculine person, and a lot of the interview 519 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: was about her inability to break into the world of 520 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: fine art as someone who isn't the child of fine 521 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: artists in New York City, um, and the way that 522 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: she's able to sell digital art like a southebyes, like 523 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: a Christie's through what they call open sea, and so 524 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: it's a way in her mind of democratizing the fine 525 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: art world. That is the only n f T situation 526 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: that has lightly convinced me that this might be something, 527 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: because I do like, like she was talking about selling 528 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: fine art in n f T s that you can 529 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: then print you you own the you can print it 530 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: on a three D printer, or you can own it 531 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: in the digital space, which again to me, like then 532 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: you get to the thing about dead links or you're 533 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: not you know where does it actually live? Are you 534 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: paying just to be able to print something out? So 535 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: like I got it in that regard, but I also 536 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: know that that's again like the fine art world, it's 537 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: not anything new, it's mimicking a world we already have, 538 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: the fine art world then eventually becomes a few people 539 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: make a jillion dollars and everyone else is like trying 540 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: to show their art in like a small gallery. So 541 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: it creates this false idea that you could become like 542 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Jackson Pollock Banksy, like you could become Georgia Kief whatever, 543 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: you could become a famous n f T artists shown 544 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: in n FT galleries. But that's only a few people. 545 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: And one aspect that I enjoyed hearing from her was 546 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: talking about how I was like, why are there so 547 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: many trans people in the space, And she was saying, 548 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: because you're able to control your image. You're able to 549 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: control your perspective and what people see of you in 550 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: the digital space more so than you can in reality. 551 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: That being said, that's a very emotional tie to something 552 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: where they can scam you. That is an incredible like 553 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: a lot of it sounds very similar to MLMs. It 554 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: comes at you say, don't you want to be a 555 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: better person, don't you want to be the person you 556 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: always dreamed of? Um? And that works for maybe three people, right, 557 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: and they they have a lot of the you know, 558 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: tactics of m l m s of you know, the 559 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: greeting each other in the morning with the good morning, 560 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: and anybody who says something negative or is swayed to 561 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: divest is called, you know names. They have names for them, 562 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: just like scientology has names for like squirrels is what 563 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: they call people who like balance scientology. So yeah, it 564 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: does feel like a straightforward translation. I was going to 565 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: theorize that it is taking some of the energy we 566 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: should be devoting towards, you know, like there there is 567 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: a part of the sports article where the author mentions 568 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: that Apple, like all tech stock is down, including Apple, 569 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: and now Apple is no longer the most valuable company, 570 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: and it's Saudi Aramco is now the most valuable company 571 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: in the world. So we're back to an oil company 572 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: being the most valuable company in the world. And I 573 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: feel like maybe a lot of this is taking the 574 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: energy that we should the revolutionary energy we should be 575 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: devoting towards, like finding a way to build a world 576 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: that is not constructed out of fossil fuel, and you know, 577 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: instead just putting that towards a hollow basically just building 578 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: an entire and other economy that has all the same problems. 579 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: But I also think there was this massive like MLM 580 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: thing that was happening, as you know, people became lonelier 581 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: and had fewer spiritual outlets, and it has adopted a 582 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: lot of that has like kind of just learned from 583 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: that and swallowed it and adjusted it. A lot of 584 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: it is truly about making friends. What club are you 585 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: part of? What discord are you a part of? It's 586 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: about It's like a lot of cults, honestly, and a 587 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of like false ideas are really about making friends. 588 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: And I know I bring this up a lot on 589 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: our show, but the Flat Earth documentary on Netflix, what 590 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: I took away from it, what I took away from 591 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: it is truly like if these people just had friends, 592 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: if they they have this idea of the flat Earth 593 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: that keeps them together as friends, and if they just 594 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: admitted that they just wanted a group of friends, they 595 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: wouldn't need to believe in flat Earth. And that's what like, 596 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: that's what all of this research that I've done on 597 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: cryptocurrency has has brought me to is that they just 598 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: want something to center their friendship around. It's like me 599 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: and my friends and drag race, like you just need 600 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: something to center your friendship around, and this happens to 601 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: be one in which you can lose a lot of money. 602 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: I think like my relationship to crypto was, you know, 603 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: I try to be open minded about things, and I 604 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: try to accept that, like my initial instinct to about 605 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: something could very well be wrong, that I could not 606 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: understand it, that there's maybe a lot of things missing, 607 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: and so, you know, with crypto, I was like, I 608 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: don't get it, Like this doesn't seem needed or real, 609 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: and and like, but I tried to allow for the 610 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: fact that I was wrong, you know, Like how like 611 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: at first with TikTok, I was like, well, this seems silly, 612 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: but now it's huge, you know. But the more that 613 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm learning and the more people like talk to, the 614 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: more I'm sort of like, no, maybe this is really 615 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: not anything like that. This we might be um falling 616 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: for something that ultimately isn't even what it pretends to 617 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: be because it's not decentralized, Like it's just getting more 618 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: and more centralized. So what hole is it filling, especially 619 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: when it's tied to the value of currency. Yeah, it's 620 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: a good idea, but I think we think it's everyone idea. Why. 621 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone got really angry at the 622 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: banks after the financial crisis, which Dan Olson talks about, 623 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: and then part of it. Watching that whole video, I 624 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: was like, I think maybe the matrix did this to us. 625 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: Like I think we all somehow believed that we were 626 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: smarter than we are and we wanted to be the 627 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: people who are outside the matrix, and we everyone wants 628 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: to believe that they have they're they're onto something that 629 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: they that they're existing outside of current society. You want 630 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: to be the hacker, you want to be the guy, 631 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: you want to be neo, and you just can't write. 632 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: I think people. I think there's an underrated big part 633 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: of people that don't want to admit that they are 634 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: one of seven billion people on the planet. They want 635 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: to be special special. Yeah. And and then community, like 636 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: the fact that community is just gone like from and 637 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: so everybody's having to form their own communities. And that's 638 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: this is what I think. That's a great analysis. Yeah, 639 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting like this woman that I spoke to, 640 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: she was able to sell profile pictures and paid for 641 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: a lot of her gender confirmation confirmation surgeries, and I 642 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: was like, I can't not get behind that. But like 643 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: how it was sort of like getting into it with 644 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: her about like, how is that different from crowdfunding, right, 645 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: And it was because well, I'm selling this these profile 646 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: pictures and I'm like yes, but also if you crowdfund, 647 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: you send out posters, you send out mugs, you know. 648 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know. I feel like 649 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: it's this idea that we're all going to end up 650 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: in pods one day and you're gonna wish you had 651 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: digital money rather than paper money, and maybe we will. 652 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll end up in pods and I'll be a 653 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: poor pod person who knows. Yeah, I think I'm gonna 654 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: be okay with that. I'm gonna be okay with being 655 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: a poor pod person. I'm gonna very gold in my backyard. 656 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: There you go. We'll have to dig the VR mass 657 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: at that point. Oh no. If I can go back 658 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: to your question about the the question about just being 659 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: a good idea or not, I'm one during you know, 660 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: is there a value that you see to the blockchain 661 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: in general outside of it being attached to cryptocurrency or 662 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: n f t s. Is there like a value there 663 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: that you see moving forward in the future, whether it 664 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: be for I don't know, like secure you know, I 665 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: see contracts and like you know, information being stored on 666 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: the blockchain. Do you see that as a good idea? 667 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: Is is that the value that we need to be 668 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: moving towards outside of the art quote unquote art aspect 669 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: of it. It's hard because everything is owned by somebody, right, so, 670 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 1: like I get it. But also this move to put 671 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: all of your information like medical records and passwords and 672 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: whatever into a little a little area for yourself that 673 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: still has to be stored somewhere, I'm not I know 674 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: a bit about tech, but I'm not like a huge 675 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: I could I set up the WiFi router in my house, 676 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I I can make 677 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: your Bluetooth work whatever. But like I mean, I set 678 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: up the VCR my neighbors house. Not to brag, thank 679 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: you so much. So I'm just working with dated tech no. Um. So, 680 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: like from my understanding, people are mad at governments. They 681 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: don't trust governments, and but anything can be not even hacked, 682 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: but just like taken, like anything can just be. If 683 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: you don't remember your own wallet code, goodbye, there's no one. 684 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: There's no consumer protection. But with having no consumer protection, 685 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: there's also no government intervention allegedly, So it's like that's 686 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: what you're trading, but then you end up with people 687 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: who are like, I'm locked out of my wallet which 688 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: has like a million, you know, a hundred million dollars 689 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: in it. Oh, well, so the people that are rich 690 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: are getting the people that are rich are getting richer. 691 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, it's the Winklevoss Twins. It's 692 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: people that whatever, I can't remember his name, but like, 693 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's Elon Musk. It's the people that are 694 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: like Peter Peter Tiel, right, It's like these people that 695 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: would already have money, and then I wonder, I don't know, 696 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: I get real scared of like a Minority Reports situation 697 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: or something where they're like, well we read on your 698 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: chart that you are likely to do this, so now 699 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: you're arrested. I don't know, I'm very paranoid. Welcome to 700 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: a conspiracy corner. The song is infect Yeah. The what 701 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: One of the things this is a new low for 702 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: the crypto market as far as far as I can tell, 703 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: is that one of the wallets is basically saying that 704 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: they have the right to use the money that is 705 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: parked there as their own assets. If they when they're 706 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: like negotiating bankruptcy, that's just a bank, that's what banks do. 707 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: But it but they're right, it's it's like a step 708 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: beyond that. I was reading on it and they were like, 709 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: if if Schwab came out one day and said, if 710 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: we go a cokrupt, your personal assets will be subject 711 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: to the bankruptcy settlement, they'd lose all their assets overnight. 712 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: So this is this the I I think that's a 713 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: bridge further than even like normal banks can can take it. 714 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, they said that, like right, like your your 715 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: money is our money. If what which banks can do 716 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: in some circumstances. But I don't think if they are 717 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: called on it, if there's like a you know, a 718 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: bankruptcy situation, they can be like, yes, like you don't 719 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 1: have your money anymore. We we do now. I think 720 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: this it's still staked to something which apparently is not 721 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: the case with and to create more money. It's huge rigs, 722 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: it's huge energy. It's it's the usage of a lot 723 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: of energy, and more so than I think like some 724 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: small countries I've heard. Look, I'm also open. I'm open 725 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: to being proved wrong. I'm open to somebody coming up 726 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: with an incredible decentralized currency that exists in a digital space. 727 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm open to it, Like I'll I don't 728 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: want any of the problem is is that I'm open 729 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: to all this tech, but also I don't want anyone 730 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: to know anything about me. So yeah, you say, as 731 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: a public figure, I know, but I got really like 732 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: I drove into a parking garage and the guy at 733 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: the garage was like, can you open your trunk? And 734 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have to do ship for you, 735 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: and like my partner was like, there's nothing in the trunk. 736 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: You just opened the trunk, like it doesn't matter, and 737 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's the principle of the thing. 738 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: I can park here. I don't need to show you 739 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: what's in my trunk. You don't get to do that. 740 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: And I was And then my partner was, we can't 741 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: park here unless he looks in the trunk. He's like 742 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: giving us a hard time, and I was like, well, 743 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: that's my fourth Amendment, right, show me a warrant, bitch. 744 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm not fucking opening my trunk for you. And then 745 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: I go online and I'm like I'm from here and 746 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: I live here and here's my mom problems. All right, 747 00:43:52,200 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And 748 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: we're back and Dan, Wow, it's it's black hole time. Sensational. 749 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: Well you, I think you've come on as a guest 750 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: host before and talked space stuff, so you're you're a 751 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: real space kid. You're a real space boy. I think 752 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: space kidet is good because that's what my parents and 753 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: my girlfriend called me, and I think it's more related 754 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: to anyway. But the point is, I do love space. 755 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: I love how close we're getting to seeing so much 756 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: more of the bounds of our perception. I love how 757 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: how widely those are being expanded. I love that we're 758 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: replacing the Hubble with the James web Telescope. That is 759 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: so exciting. And each of these like new discoveries into 760 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: what is outside of our world is always fascinating to 761 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: me and I love to bring it onto the podcast. 762 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned last time, Yes, last time, it 763 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: was the launch of the James Webb telescope. And now 764 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: we're looking at the first supermassive black hole. It's at 765 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: the center of the Milky Way, Galax. The why is 766 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: this important? Well, I've provided the very top of the 767 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: article which tells us exactly why this is important. This 768 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: provides overwhelming evidence that the object is indeed a black 769 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: hole and yields valuable clues about the working of such giants, 770 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: which are thought to reside at the center of most galaxies. Now, 771 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: this image, as you correctly noted, Jack, looks like a 772 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: picture you take at a rock concert when you're a 773 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: few drinks deep. And yes, totally, it's a little bit shaky, 774 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: and it's a little bit what the hell are we 775 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: looking at? And I refer you back to the actual 776 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: very first picture that we got a supermassive black hole, 777 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: with this wonderful picture of a Dr Katie Bowman, with 778 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: the mountains of data that we're put together to kind 779 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: of produce this image, as it were, because you know, 780 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: what we're looking at is not as much a picture 781 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: as it is a collection of data points that indicate 782 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: to us kind of the light moving around this supermassive 783 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: you know, void of light in space and kind of 784 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: giving us a clear picture of how that light interacts 785 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: with a black hole and what that means for how 786 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: bodies move around this piece in our galaxy. And so, 787 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: you know, as another update to this wonderful you know, 788 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: space world that we're exploring more and more. This was 789 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: another step in that direction. And since we're only about 790 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: three to four weeks out from the very first pictures 791 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: from the James web Telescope, I wanted to add another 792 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 1: thing to look forward to, as we are also looking 793 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: forward to the end of our civilization as a whole. 794 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 1: But man, we're gonna learn a lot about space before 795 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: we get there. So another step in that direction. What 796 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: will the pictures from the James Webb Telescope will will 797 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: they also look like a picture where I'm going back 798 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: through my pictures from ten years ago and I'm like, 799 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: what happened? Whatever? Oh it was the camera, the phone 800 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: was in my pocket and the flash went off. But 801 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: what is that? Is that where we're looking at her, 802 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 1: Is James Webb going to be like the wild space 803 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: clouds and the the ship that looks you know, mind 804 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: blow the latter. I think we're looking more at wild 805 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: space pictures. I think we'll be able to see a 806 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: little bit of both. Like we'll see some super super 807 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: deep stuff out in space that will probably look more 808 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: like the supermassive black hole. But if you're familiar with 809 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: some of like the horse said, Nebula pictures that came 810 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: from the telescope, and that first, you know, the picture 811 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: that is just it looks like a sea of stars. 812 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: We'll get to see more pictures like that, and these 813 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: really kind of super crisp images of space that you know, 814 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: will decorate the backgrounds of nerds on their computers for 815 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: decades to come. Not if I meant it as an 816 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: you got me about to go do that ship, I 817 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: ask a question like yeah, and I mean this, I 818 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 1: mean this was full sincerity. Why do you care about space? 819 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: That is a great question, I think. I mean so 820 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 1: partially as a sci fi nerd, I'm always looking for 821 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: other things, like I love the idea of aliens. I 822 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: love the idea of other beings. I love the potential 823 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: of civilizations that are so you know, decades and or 824 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, eons ahead of us in terms 825 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: of technology or existence in general. I believe if we're 826 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: going to go into it. In my conspiracy corner, I 827 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: am very deep into the idea of the star Trek 828 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: picture of the universe in which there is the prime directive, 829 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: and the prime directive being you're not messing with the 830 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: civilization until they developed the technology to come and find you. 831 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: And each of these discoveries, each of these you know, 832 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: advancements in technology, I think gets us closer to that 833 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: point where the walls will come down, the ships will 834 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: reveal themselves, and they'll be like, all right, gang, you 835 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: did it. You actually managed to get off your planet 836 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: in a way that would allow you to explore the 837 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: universe in a way. Welcome to the Federation, and let's 838 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: fix all of these problems that you're having on your 839 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: planet because you guys were so close to fucking get up. 840 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: I know, because that is so much sense to me, 841 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: because aliens are incredibly appealing to me, and other life 842 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: forms under sentient is very appealing to me. But I 843 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: feel like just stars or like empty space or you know, 844 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: that is like a little harder for me to get 845 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: on board with a fascination totally. I mean, it's like, 846 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 1: you know, look pretty lights out in space and we 847 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: have clearer pictures of them. Sure, that is definitely very cool, 848 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: and you know, learning more about the weights of stars 849 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: and you know, the you know, what's around them, an 850 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: exoplanets and all that stuff is very cool. But just 851 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 1: getting closer to seeing other beings out there is just oh, man, 852 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: is that so fascinating to me? It's like that you know, 853 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: there's there's that there's a very funny meme right now. 854 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: That's like to like, born too late to own a 855 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 1: house and born too early to become a TikTok star. 856 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: Thankfully we're all born in the time that we'll be 857 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: able to see really really far out into space, and 858 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: that throws me. So I'm all about it. I love this. 859 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: Alison loves aliens aliens to aliens, I think yeah, And 860 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: I think the given everything we know about aliens, know 861 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: about aliens, but it does seem like they've made contact 862 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: but are just laying low and could destroy us at 863 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: any moment and have chosen not to. And all of 864 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: that leads me to believe that the prime directive thing 865 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: is is probably unless they're just like waiting until like 866 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: the right time to destroy us. But we're fucking up 867 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: like all our natural resources, so it seems weird that 868 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: they wait. So there's no value in that. There's no 869 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: value in seeing our planet and being like, what can 870 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: we what can rereap from this ball of quickly depleting resources. Anyway, Alise, 871 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: and you're about to say something, what are your what's 872 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 1: your proof that they that they have been in touch. 873 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: I'd love to know. I don't think I don't necessarily 874 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 1: think they've been in touch like that the government is 875 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: in like active contact. I just think the sightings are 876 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. And there is that documentary like phenomenon or no, 877 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: that's the phenomenon. Wait, is that not a documentary? I 878 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: thought that was a documentary. It's a documentary to some, 879 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: but there is some documentary that just like does a 880 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: good job of like highlighting any encounter that happened with 881 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: like a pretty reputable source. And so they have like 882 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: a lot of air force pilots, just commercial pilots, like 883 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 1: from you know, the forties onward basically, and it seems 884 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: like there was a lot of activity around World War two, 885 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: which leads me to believe they're just like coming to 886 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: make sure that things don't get to the point where 887 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: our species goes extinct. And then they seem to be 888 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: very interested in any nuclear weapons facilities, which you know 889 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: that just based on like any like highly sourced sighting 890 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: of some sort of technology that that people can't explain. 891 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 1: So that just leads me to believe that they are 892 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: just monitoring our military, which also makes it makes sense 893 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: that the military is so intent on a cover up, 894 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: because if there is this peaceful, super advanced, you know, 895 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: civilization that's like just there and not trying to destroy us, 896 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: then it kind of sucks up their whole worldview that like, well, 897 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: it's just kill or be killed. We have to be 898 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 1: ready to fight at all times, and like spend all 899 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: the money on defense spending, and it's like, well, they 900 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: seem like they're doing okay, they could destroy us at 901 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: any time, but like they're maybe this is not the 902 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: way of the future. Is my thinking around it, But 903 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what is your thinking. Well, I you know, 904 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: I definitely do believe that there's been like some significant 905 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 1: sightings and and when I was a freshman at high school, 906 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: we were allowed to write a research paper about anything 907 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: that we wanted, and I wrote an ID page research 908 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: paper about Roswell. Teacher was so so she was into it, 909 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: I think. But if I were to go into that 910 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,479 Speaker 1: was required, I wasn't just that I was wild. Yeah, 911 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: I had to be that long. Um. But I you know, 912 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: by conspiracy quarter is that I think that they're already 913 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: have been probably aliens and stuff on this planet, and 914 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 1: that when we when we questioned it, it's so easy 915 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: for the government to just say, no, that's from the 916 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: deep ocean, because we we would believe that anything is 917 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: from the deep ocean, because like I think, like, have 918 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: you seen what's from the deep ocean? It just looks 919 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: like aliens, wild ship, wild stuff. As soon as people 920 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, that's just from the ocean, everyone's like, oh, okay, 921 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: that's that, yeah exactly. But yeah, I don't know. I 922 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: don't know how good they would be actually if they 923 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: actually fully knew. I don't think they could necessarily keep 924 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: it a secret unless it was like a section like 925 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: Men in Black, where they're not really part of the government. 926 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: It's its own thing as is is not. I don't 927 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: think interacting with aliens. Do you think we'll be able 928 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 1: to date aliens? It depends, wouldn't that be sick? She's 929 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: so cool? All right? That would be wonderful. On Star 930 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,240 Speaker 1: Trek they've Rick or Fox all the time. That's true, 931 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: he does. So I think it's just like what level 932 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: of intelligence do you know, Like you really need to 933 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: be able to connect emotionally right physically? They could, but 934 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: the aliens are like, no, We're not aliens are Honestly, 935 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: you all are goes a nose in the middle of 936 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: your face. Disgusting. What is that about? Dan? Was there 937 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: anything else that you wanted to talk about? Just just 938 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: another update? Let me tell you something. In about a 939 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: month or I think it's June twenty two, we start 940 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: getting pictures back from the James Web. I will be 941 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: sending in picks. Gonna say about that, so we'll talk 942 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: to Such a pleasure having you both on the show. 943 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff. 944 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at Gabby Road, j B y R 945 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: O A d Um. We also have our podcast together, 946 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,959 Speaker 1: just between Us podcast and I do a show called 947 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 1: Bad with Money that is about money but also kind 948 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: of as unhinged as this was. Uh, go for it, Alsen. Yeah. 949 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: Then I'm at Alice and Raskot on Socials, but i 950 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: also have a mental health focused Instagram account at Emotional 951 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: Support Lady, and I also have a sub stack by 952 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: the same name. And then my book over Thinking about 953 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: You Navigating Romantic Relationships when you have Anxiety O c 954 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: D and Door Depression just came out last week, so 955 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: I'd love for people to check that out, go get it. Yeah, 956 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some of the work of 957 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,760 Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. I saw the funniest tweet 958 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: yesterday that a police dog bit a police officer for 959 00:55:54,719 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: being the aggressor, and that strikes Yeah, that that brought 960 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: me joy. I'm again going to recommend the line goes 961 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: up by Dan Olson. It's an incredible to a two 962 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: and a half hour video that flies by and my 963 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 1: again like I might watch it a third time. So 964 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: and its channel folding ideas is great. Yeah, really good, Daniel. 965 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: How about you? Where can people find you? What's a 966 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me all over 967 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: the internet at dj underscore Daniel. That's a Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok. Regrettably, 968 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: and my one piece of social media that I just 969 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 1: wanted to share because it it gives me the giggles 970 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: is a post on actually Instagram from Goop who is 971 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: introducing the diaper, the ten dollar diaper, and I'm just 972 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: gonna read this post met. The accident is over the 973 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: e and diaper, so I'm not sure how to pronounce 974 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: is it diaper either? Right? The diaper. Yeah, diaper. I 975 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: appreciate that our new disposable diaper lined with virgin alpaca 976 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: wool and fast with her gemstones, known for their ancient 977 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: emotional cleansing properties, infused with a scent of jasmine and 978 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 1: bergamot for revitalized baby dropping tomorrow today or yesterday at 979 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: eleven a m e s t d. Twenty dollars for 980 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: a pack of twelve. I thought it was for an 981 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: adult person, and I was excited. It is that would 982 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: be sick. I mean I might actually consider it at 983 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: that point. But to you know, if my understanding is correct, 984 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: and Jack, I think you'd be a better source than this. 985 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: Babies kind of blast through diapers, don't they. How do 986 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: you mean? Well? You know, yeah, yeah, you get through 987 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: divers fairly quickly. Yeah, and I feel like there's aspers 988 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: I have two babies. Oh wow, Well one is six 989 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: and would not appreciate me referring to him as a baby. Well, 990 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: ask him his opinion on these diapers. Yeah, I think yeah, 991 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: So I think they're probably watchable diapers. Right, No, no, no, 992 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: disposed will diaper with the virgin. I'll pack a wool. 993 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: I would cut the gemstones off and then you just 994 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: start collecting those. Yeah, definitely, absolutely make a little necklace. 995 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: The idea that a baby needs to be rejuvenated. It 996 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: just became alive, exactly. It is purely juvenated at this 997 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: very moment. There's no about to be refreshed. It's fine. 998 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 1: It's very fresh. Yes, it didn't just come off at 999 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: nine to five. It is fresh anyway, virgin I'll pack 1000 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: a wool me and I don't know, like the it 1001 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: hasn't been died. I think hasn't been dying. Okay, that's good. 1002 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was a weird. Thank god. I really 1003 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: thought that you meant diapers for adults, and I was 1004 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: really sorry to it for a second. Unfortunate, unfortunately, not 1005 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: because then I would gladly show off my goop diaper. 1006 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 1: But Alaska, not for not for, not for everybody that's 1007 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna say, Gabby, you don't have too much of a butt. 1008 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you can fit in one. Yeah, thank you. I'm 1009 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna shim me it up my little body. Wonderful. You 1010 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. A 1011 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: couple of tweets I've been enjoying. We'll go miles of 1012 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 1: grant because most of the unmasked passengers on my flight 1013 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: are the ultra elderly I get it, Exo tour life 1014 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: and whatnot. All my friends are love that. Yeah, and 1015 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: then Jason Chevron tweeted, you're telling me this coin was 1016 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: a bit and yeah, I guess we are. I guess 1017 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: it was a bit. Good. You can find us on 1018 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: Twitter at daily zeit Geis. Were at the Daily zeit 1019 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: Geist on Instagram. We have Facebook fan page and a website, 1020 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: daily zeitgeis dot com, where we post our episodes on 1021 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: our footnotes to the information that we talked about in 1022 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think 1023 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: you might enjoy. DJ Daniel I certainly do a new 1024 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: song by a good friend of mine, an artist named 1025 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: prom Night Producer out of las the lists you just 1026 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: put out a new EP with and Juna Beats. The 1027 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,479 Speaker 1: album or the EP is two songs, Absolute and Misha's Peak, 1028 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: and they're both really really enjoyable listening experiences. 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