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Speaker 1: What the big stories were that week, whether it was

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Speaker 2: And a number of you really a seemed to enjoy that.

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Speaker 3: Take a guess when this was.

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Speaker 4: That song takes me to a place being six seven

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden thought that Hunter would be acquitted. He would

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Speaker 2: I highly encourage people to do away with the landline.

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Speaker 3: coming into time and space and history saying I can

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Speaker 3: make your life count, you can be abundant, whatever your status.

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Speaker 3: And that's what Christmas is. It's a proclamation, it's an excitement,

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Speaker 3: it's a celebration of all celebrations. God enter time and space,

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Speaker 3: and no longer can we say I wonder what God

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Speaker 3: would have me to do. I wonder what principles are

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Speaker 3: I'm down, I'm broken. He's right there saying, you just

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Speaker 3: turned your life over to me, and I will give

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Speaker 3: you the perfect gift that you need, and that is

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Speaker 3: you'll have a life that is relevant, a life that

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Speaker 3: is exciting, not dependent on physical stuff, but a life

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Speaker 3: that will count now in His kingdom and will count forever.

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Speaker 3: Christmas the greatest gift, I would say, Just receive him

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Speaker 3: and he'll do the rest.

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Speaker 2: Pastor Hole, I thought, Pastor ed Young, Second Baptist Church,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the meaning of Christmas. I want to

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Speaker 2: for those of you who will hold with us for

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Speaker 2: a moment, I want to talk a little more about that,

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Speaker 2: about rituals, the history of those cultural traditions and religious traditions,

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Speaker 2: and how we weave them together. How we teach our

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Speaker 2: children in this time of you know, sales at the mall,

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Speaker 2: how do we teach our children the real meaning of Christmas?

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Speaker 2: And then I want to talk, as he alluded to earlier,

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Speaker 2: about Israel in the world today and the role of

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Speaker 2: the Christian and Christian faith with Israel coming up