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Speaker 5: episode number one. This is the first edition of the

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Speaker 5: at three and it will begin with lots of teams

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Speaker 5: making final I guess, finalizing deals that would have been

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Speaker 5: kind of been happening over the last.

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Speaker 3: Two days and right.

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Speaker 5: And there is one notable exception to that, and that's

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Speaker 5: where we're going to start today because I think it

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Speaker 5: probably took. As I told my wife last night, the

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Speaker 5: NFL is melting down right now. Because I've never in

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Speaker 5: the twenty five years i've been associated with this team

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Speaker 5: in the NFL on an official capacity, I've never seen

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Speaker 5: anything like this, and I think it's it's probably something

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Speaker 5: that is more prone to happen in today's world because

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Speaker 5: the NFL has this tampering period where essentially there are

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Speaker 5: two days where teams can meet with players and they

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Speaker 5: can sign players, or let me say, they can agree

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Speaker 5: to terms with players, but nothing becomes official until today, Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: at three pm. And this has been going on since Monday.

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Speaker 5: So when Max Crosby is reportedly traded from the Las

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Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders to the Baltimore Ravens for two first round

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Speaker 5: it Sunday? It was Monday, Monday, Monday, it was Monday.

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Speaker 5: So when it happens on Monday, we all assume that's happening.

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Speaker 5: All the NFL teams assume that's happening. Teams move on,

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Speaker 5: like the Cowboys who were reportedly involved in some of

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Speaker 5: those discussions to maybe acquire Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: But they move on. Every other team moves on, and then.

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Speaker 5: Last night we get the word that Baltimore has decided

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Speaker 5: they're not going to do this, and he reverts back

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Speaker 5: I do want to preface this conversation before we get

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Speaker 5: into opinions and thoughts on this. All of this, all

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Speaker 5: of the conversation that we're going to have, is really

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Speaker 5: based on what we know publicly. Sure my guess is

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Speaker 5: that there is probably there are probably a lot of

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Speaker 5: very substantial talking points on this matter that are not public.

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Speaker 5: Baltimore is not said officially why they didn't go through

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Speaker 5: with this deal. We can make assumptions about that, but

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Speaker 5: they've not said neither has Las Vegas. Las Vegas hasn't

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Speaker 5: said publicly why this thing fell apart. Teams like the Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: who were at one point involved, have not spoken publicly

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Speaker 5: about this. So I think I just want to be clear,

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Speaker 5: whatever we're talking about, a lot of this is going

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Speaker 5: know all the details. That being said, let's talk about

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Speaker 5: first with when you heard Max Crosby got traded for

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Speaker 5: I would have given it up, or did you think

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're in a position to give up

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Speaker 6: to first and Max Crosby's an incredible player. He would

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Speaker 6: easily boost your defense incredibly, But I don't think Dallas

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Speaker 3: Let me just say this, first of all, Derek set

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Speaker 3: that up perfectly because he know I might come on

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Speaker 2: Don't say something reckless.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be crazy crazy, but Derek, just be reckless. Hey, y'all,

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Speaker 3: we don't know nothing, y'all, we just publicly. But you

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Speaker 3: In some other years you can get Jared Versu at nineteen. Overall,

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Speaker 3: I was quite upset the Cowboys missed out.

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Speaker 7: I would not give two first round picks. No, I

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Speaker 7: have to your body be optimal position like, no surgeries,

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Speaker 7: no concerns that all whatsoever. You better have a complete

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Speaker 7: fresh body. And I love the experience, but two first

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Speaker 7: round picks us way too high. Now I'm curious, what

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Speaker 5: Well, I think there are reports that the Cowboys aren't

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Speaker 5: which I think is an interesting prospect because if you

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Speaker 2: If they can remake their team and then keep.

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Speaker 5: Max Crosby as a part of that, I think the

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Speaker 5: of them. I still don't know what you know. Do

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Speaker 5: But defensively they got pieces.

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Speaker 5: that they're they're just like which at this point they

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Speaker 5: The other part to that, though, is from your from

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Speaker 7: I know there was a lot of hype around that

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Speaker 7: I think about it, I'm just like, I want zero

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Speaker 7: doubts if I'm making that big of a trade. If

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Speaker 7: health issues whatsoever. I don't want to come. I want

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Speaker 7: the guy that I'm getting that I'm getting, we know

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Speaker 7: what kind of player he is. But that he's going

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Speaker 7: to be available the whole season. Obviously, you never know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Max's health is going to be fine

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Speaker 2: And it's a but do you know that? Because here's

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Speaker 5: It is because it seems as though at least there

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Speaker 5: we're talking about what public reports are.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case.

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Speaker 5: If that's the case, then it might he might be

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Speaker 5: Question would be will he be Max Crosby? And if

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Speaker 5: not only is he going to be Max Crosby for

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 2: Sure, he's gonna be Max.

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Speaker 5: Crosby in twenty twenty seven, in twenty twenty eight, like,

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Speaker 5: you need years of him being Max Crosby in order

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Speaker 5: If there are medical concerns that make you say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's questionable, if he's going to be back, it's questionable.

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Speaker 5: Or let's even assume he's going to be back, it's

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Speaker 3: So let's say this a team's medical evaluation subjective. It's

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Speaker 3: going to vary per team.

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Speaker 2: YEP.

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Speaker 3: I think the Ravens were probably out on it because

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Speaker 3: of the the actual picks, like, hey man were giving

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Speaker 3: up these two ones. We want da da da da

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Speaker 3: da da da Max And I've said this online before.

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Speaker 3: Max didn't pull himself out because he was hurt. The

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Speaker 3: Ravens pulled him and he was mad. Max was ready

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Speaker 3: to play. Max was ready to just play, hurt like

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Speaker 3: he was fine. So I don't think this is some

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's like a ACL injury or something

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Speaker 3: but like I said earlier, my window is three to.

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Speaker 2: Five, right. But here's here's the question.

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Speaker 5: But this is always going to be a nagging problem.

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Speaker 3: For next three. Yeah, I think Max just my personal opinion.

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Speaker 8: You know his name?

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Speaker 5: I saw you out there say that that dude attract

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Speaker 3: When I say Derek Ingerson, I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 5: But right now, right now, sure nobody's in because nothing

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Speaker 2: That, right but right, that's my point.

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Speaker 5: I want to be regular but making no But here's

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Speaker 5: here's my point. Show nobody's jumping in to say, well,

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Speaker 3: Two ones because of the discount associated with it, right,

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Speaker 3: evens gave up? How about this? What if it was

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Speaker 5: And again I think that's the part of the conversation,

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Speaker 2: But I ain't giving up two ones.

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Speaker 3: So let me like break this time. I know you

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Speaker 2: Yes, because that's that's a risk of taking.

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Speaker 3: Sure. Yes, so let's erase that we worried about his

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Speaker 5: Well, but you can't do that because the competition matters,

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Speaker 5: but the compensition matters.

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Speaker 2: That's a part of the evaluation.

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Speaker 3: I think the first question is are we comfortable with

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying give them two. I'm not saying give

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't care about the need. I'm thinking

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Speaker 7: You cannot separate the two. No, you cannot. In this business,

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Speaker 7: you cannot please. It goes hand in hand. The price

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Speaker 7: dictates what you're willing to gamble and what you're willing

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Speaker 7: to put a bet on and say, okay, that is

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Speaker 7: much more. The reason we've seen cowboys year after years,

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Speaker 7: Sure go for a second round pick that has some

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Speaker 7: question marks around their health issues, but they're willing to

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Speaker 7: take that gamble because this is the second round. So again,

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Speaker 7: I think the money absolutely one affects the kind of

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Speaker 2: Can I give an analogy? Can I give analogy? So

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Speaker 5: You have you shot dice with some homies all the time,

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Speaker 5: all right, So let me ask you this question, sir. So,

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Speaker 5: that affect how much money you're willing to put down

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Speaker 3: I just bring my own dice because I do that.

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Speaker 5: That's not what I that's not And so my point is,

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Speaker 5: separate those two and say, I'm not going to worry

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Speaker 2: A part of it.

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Speaker 5: It's honestly, it is the same reason why we're going

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Speaker 5: same reason why with Trey Hendrickson, I was a little

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Speaker 5: he might be able to show up, he might be

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Speaker 2: Really really well.

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Speaker 5: I don't trust that by the time we get to

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Speaker 2: That's where that's that's my point.

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Speaker 3: This is my point, and maybe this summarize is a

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable the knee. I'm gonna I'm gonna let the

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Speaker 3: Max to play with Quinn Williams so bad. Even if

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Speaker 3: give him a two. Cool I got twenty for you

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Speaker 3: if somebody else's prices, or I got nineteen for him.

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Speaker 3: Bet I got twelve. You see what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I'm matching the market as opposed to his knee.

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Speaker 3: I feel fine about the knee. I ain't worried about

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Speaker 3: the knee. And maybe you don't know because you haven't

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Speaker 3: seen it. And maybe doctor Cooper can call us right

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Speaker 3: and now be like ych just a note and then

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Speaker 3: it'll be a note for me. But I want to

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Speaker 5: January and that and that's where when I look at

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Speaker 5: Baltimore with is I would say, you know, I'm willing

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Speaker 5: I need you to give me back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 5: What that does is that allows me to say, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I'm not on the hook for any money with Gary.

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Speaker 5: I can have Gary and I can maybe have Max,

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Speaker 5: and I'll give up that one. And any event I

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Speaker 2: Nothing stops me.

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Speaker 5: And I got that I didn't lose the fourth round pick,

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Speaker 5: So for me, I think there's a way to make

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Speaker 3: And that's the big problem. You're making me debate with

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Speaker 3: only public knowledge. Right in real life, I think some

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Speaker 3: can't say that on this prestigious platform. Derek gig like,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't dare say that, But I think I think,

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Speaker 3: I think Max me Okay, time they go to break time, Okay,

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Speaker 8: I was gonna say, based on all the reporting that with.

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Speaker 9: This guy, this guy the time that you want because

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Speaker 6: Based on all the reporting that we've seen there is

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Speaker 8: He had surgery two months ago.

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Speaker 6: If we're talking about the physical that everybody, everybody at

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Speaker 6: this table goes to.

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Speaker 8: You see your doctor once a year.

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Speaker 6: If I came in there with the tormentiscus, I'm not

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Speaker 6: going to get clear to play football. They're too much

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Speaker 6: capital that they're willing to give up, I really wonder

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Speaker 6: there has to be varying levels. There's varying levels of

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Speaker 6: we're good, right.

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Speaker 5: And I think I think, I think what you're saying

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Speaker 5: I'm saying what I'm saying, now, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, that would mean

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Speaker 5: if we follow that logic, that would mean something else

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Speaker 2: Nah, I'm not willing to do that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know because because they all knew yet they

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Speaker 5: all knew he had the surgery, right, they all knew

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Speaker 5: he had the surgery. That's not new information. So you're right,

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Speaker 5: at that point, everybody was, all these teams were in.

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Speaker 5: I'm good.

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Speaker 6: My personal opinion, I don't think the backtracking was for

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Speaker 3: That's just my brere.

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Speaker 6: But here's based on reporting that that we've seen basically,

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

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Speaker 5: There's something else involved here, and that's that's where I

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Speaker 5: land on this too, is there's more to the to

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Speaker 5: this story than just what's being reported, because I think

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Speaker 5: there was more interest as of Monday than it appears

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Speaker 5: to be today.

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Speaker 6: But I think that also could be because naturally around

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Speaker 6: the league. Now sure the Raider, the Raiders can report

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Speaker 6: and say, hey, we're still going to want two first

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Speaker 6: round picks for our player.

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Speaker 8: Nobody's going to give him that any market.

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Speaker 6: Nobody's gonna give him that any regardless of what happened

451
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Speaker 6: behind the scenes, nobody's going to give him that anymore.

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Speaker 6: So they've got to live with the reality of Okay,

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Speaker 6: we either need to keep this guy for twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: six and maybe try to look and make a move next.

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Speaker 2: Year, or I think that's actually their best route of

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Speaker 2: So that's what I would think too, is especially want

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Speaker 2: to bet on him. Bet on him.

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Speaker 6: He's healthy, you can still afford to add all the

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Speaker 6: players had in facy, you had the caps face.

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Speaker 8: Why not give the time, why not give it a shot.

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Speaker 6: But if that's not the case or the interesting thing

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Speaker 6: with all about this too is Crosby goes out and

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Speaker 6: records a thirteen minute video that he publishes and you know,

464
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Speaker 6: saying goodbye and everything. Is he willing to and is

465
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Speaker 6: that locker room willing to be like, welcome back, big Dog.

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Speaker 8: I mean, because yeah, they very well could.

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Speaker 6: But that's that's the interesting part of all this to

468
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Speaker 6: me is eventually the Raiders are going to have to

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Speaker 6: live with the fact that if they want to move

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Speaker 6: on from him, based on all the reporting that's happened,

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Speaker 6: it's going to need to be at a lower price.

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Speaker 6: And then I wouldn't expect any teams to be like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we're we're conversing with the Raiders on this. Why would

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Speaker 6: you say that right now? You let that price drop

475
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Speaker 6: as much as it can so that you can go

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Speaker 6: and get this caliber player. Look, this is a guy

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Speaker 6: who has had surgeries before, and he has had medical

478
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Speaker 6: procedures done, and he's continued to play at a high level,

479
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Speaker 6: and he's the He's the kind of guy where based

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Speaker 6: on all the reporting that we've seen is if anything,

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Speaker 6: he's just going to come out of this more motivated

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Speaker 6: and work harder to you know, prove people, especially in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder they play them. I wonder if the

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Speaker 3: Because the league always do good.

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Speaker 5: That'd be so that would be so juicy. I would

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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about some of the players that

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys actually did agree to terms with, sure because

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Speaker 5: that all will become effective and uh ands as of

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Speaker 3: UH.

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Speaker 5: Let's start first with the trade that the Cowboys made.

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Speaker 5: They traded with the Green Bay Packers, which it's got

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Speaker 5: a speed down now to Green Bay and just kind

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Speaker 5: of make moves with them, but they get Edge Rusher

565
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Speaker 5: Rashan Gary. They give up a fourth round pick in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven, kind of give me the scattering report.

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Speaker 5: What is what is there that fans can expect of

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Speaker 5: this player based upon what you've seen throughout his career.

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Speaker 6: He's been consistent at least five sacks in every season

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Speaker 6: since his second year in the NFL, So he's been

571
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Speaker 6: consistent in pass rush. He's coming from a three to

572
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Speaker 6: fourth game that Jeff Hafley ran in Green Bay, so

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Speaker 6: one of the better run defending edges. He's one of

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Speaker 6: those bigger, stockier guys that can set the edge for you.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if he has the same burst

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Speaker 6: that he did when he was younger, but I've seen

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Speaker 6: good pursuit from him and good effort to bring the

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Speaker 6: quarterback down.

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Speaker 8: There have been questions.

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Speaker 6: About, you know, whether there are some years where he

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Speaker 6: starts hot and then towards the end of the year

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Speaker 6: isn't as effective. But I mean, he's going to help

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Speaker 6: you in the run game at the very least, and

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Speaker 6: you know, you just hope that he can be a.

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Speaker 8: Plus pass rusher for you.

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Speaker 6: It very much could end up being like a Jadavian

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Speaker 6: Clowney type of situation where he's going to set the

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Speaker 6: edge very well, He's going to get the quarterback down

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Speaker 6: a couple of times throughout the year. So it's a

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Speaker 6: solid player that elevates your defense because well, I mean,

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Speaker 6: you just straight up didn't have any pass rushers on

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Speaker 6: this roster. Donovan Azeraku was your best one going into

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Speaker 6: the season and right and I would say at this

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Speaker 6: point in time, he gears mesuff and as a rocker

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Speaker 6: could very well end up being better, and he could

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Speaker 6: be better this year. I just need to see the

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Speaker 6: next step from Aserako as a pass rusher, which hope

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Speaker 6: you would hope if you're the Cowboys, this scheme allows

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Speaker 6: him to do. But I think right now you're looking

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Speaker 6: at those two being your starters as things currently stand.

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Speaker 3: Yep. I agree. He's a bit of a power rusher,

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Speaker 3: very active with his hands. He doesn't get a bunch

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Speaker 3: of sacks. And I'm saying a bunch of sacks. He

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Speaker 3: got seven and a half and he could have got

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Speaker 3: two more. I just went down all his film. He

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Speaker 3: could have got two more. So if he ends up

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Speaker 3: with nine and a half sacks or ten sacks, then

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Speaker 3: we're looking at him as a double digit sad guy.

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Speaker 3: He'll just miss some miss the tackle here there. That's

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Speaker 3: something that you can you know, you can you know fix?

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Speaker 3: But forty seven pressures is what really jumped out to me,

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Speaker 3: and I think a lot of that came from, you know,

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Speaker 3: him winning early or him being kind of bursty. It's

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Speaker 3: weird because sometimes he'll come off the ball a little

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Speaker 3: slow and hand fight his way into his thing. Other

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Speaker 3: times he's bursting off the edge. But he's two seventy seven,

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Speaker 3: so he's not always going to be super bursty guy.

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Speaker 3: I do think he's the best rusher that you have

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Speaker 3: on your team right now. But Donovan a young guy.

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Speaker 3: Donovan's year two, you know, leap could put him over Gere.

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Speaker 3: But just as of what we know right now, Gary's better,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's a it's a good get. I

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Speaker 3: think what happened with Cowboy fans is when you lose

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Speaker 3: Micah and there's so much conversation around Trey and Max,

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Speaker 3: you go, all right, I gotta get somebody from that category.

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Speaker 3: Gary's not in that category. But if you get another

627
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Speaker 3: rusher that's similar to Gary, you drafted guy, maybe you

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Speaker 3: revisit one of the other past rushers. I think you

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Speaker 3: have a pretty good pass rush group, so good sign.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out exactly where I stand on

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Speaker 7: this because initially, prior to all of these deals being made,

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Speaker 7: I mean, they'll be official this afternoon, But prior to

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Speaker 7: all this, I was expecting or thought that the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: would be acquiring someone that that's your guy, Like you

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Speaker 7: feel confident about this is who's gonna be rushing the

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Speaker 7: quarterback and he's the man. Now you just have to

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Speaker 7: add a little bit of depth behind that. And I

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Speaker 7: don't think with him, he's not that guy. He's still like,

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Speaker 7: you're still even you just mentioned Bog, You're still gonna

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Speaker 7: have to bring in some other people in here too

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Speaker 7: to kind of build that group. But obviously someone that

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Speaker 7: And this is where I also find it hard to

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Speaker 7: evaluate when you talk about Christian Parker and what his

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Speaker 7: building right now, I'm trusting his analysis on this whole

645
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Speaker 7: thing and being like, and I'm sure we'll go down

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Speaker 7: the list of guys that are coming to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: But with PJ. Locke, he's another guy, Derek, your initial

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Speaker 7: reaction with him was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my deal.

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 5: Lock when he was at Texas, he was kind of

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Speaker 5: just a guy. I never recalled him being a standout player. Sure,

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Speaker 5: now that doesn't mean he hasn't developed into that, and

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Speaker 5: I can't say that I've watched the ton of him

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Speaker 5: with the Broncos. I do know he played a lot

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Speaker 5: for them last year and that was one of the

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Speaker 5: better defenses in the NFL, if not the best. So

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Speaker 5: that being said, look, hey give it a shot. What

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Speaker 5: I'm relying on right now kind of what you were saying,

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of relying on CP. I'm relying on the

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Speaker 5: fact that so much has been said about how much

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Speaker 5: he understands the game and how good he is at

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Speaker 5: putting players in the right positions to be able to

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Speaker 5: make plays that I'm looking at it and saying, there

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Speaker 5: is something they see in him that can play a

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Speaker 5: specific role. And if you have a defensive player, and

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Speaker 5: if you have a defensive unit that's made up of

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Speaker 5: not great players, not the best player at every position

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Speaker 5: in the league, but players who have a role and

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Speaker 5: a certain skill set that can do this one thing

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Speaker 5: really really well, and this other one can do this

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Speaker 5: one thing really really well, and then you put them

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Speaker 5: all together, and you put them all in their roles,

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Speaker 5: your defense can be really good.

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Speaker 2: Sure, if that's the case.

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Speaker 5: Then I'm trusting the evaluation, But I just didn't recall

677
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Speaker 5: him at Texas As being and I watch every Texas guy,

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Speaker 5: watch every Texas game from the time I was in

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Speaker 5: school there back in the nineties, I watched Texas football,

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Speaker 5: and I don't remember him being one of the better

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Speaker 5: players on the Texas uniton Well, I trust.

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Speaker 7: Your opinion on this because you watch every single game,

683
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Speaker 7: so you keep a very close eye with these guys.

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Speaker 7: But just looking overall at the list of the defensive players,

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Speaker 7: my initial thought, Okay, none of these guys are like,

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Speaker 7: oh my god, groundbreaking. I feel super super excited. But

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Speaker 7: I find myself going back to the feeling that I

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Speaker 7: had last offseason, last free agency, where with Matt Iberflus,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, well, let's see what this guy is gonna do,

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Speaker 7: given the benefit of the dow Again, not a fair

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Speaker 7: comparison to completely different guys, different stages of their careers,

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Speaker 7: and I am excited with what Christian Parker brings to

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Speaker 7: the table. But I find myself having those similar feelings

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Speaker 7: is that none of these guys are may gi exciting

695
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Speaker 7: for me right now, but I'm like, well, I'm trusting

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Speaker 7: what Parker sees and what he brings and the fact

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Speaker 7: that They're going for so many defensive players in free agency.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited about that, but again, I don't really know

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Speaker 7: how to feel about.

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Speaker 2: It just yet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say this real quick before we move

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Speaker 5: on on lock. One of the things I will tell

703
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Speaker 5: you is I love the fact of what I've seen

704
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Speaker 5: from him as a as a back end player, his

705
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Speaker 5: ability to kind of move around in the back end

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Speaker 5: and make plays. I like that, and so I just

707
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Speaker 5: believe they're going to be Like I think there are skills,

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Speaker 5: things about his skill set that's going to make him

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Speaker 5: valuable to this team. He's worked with this this with

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Speaker 5: some of the folks on this staff, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's why they look at him and they're like, we

712
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Speaker 5: want a guy like that, and it really is to me,

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Speaker 5: it's the same way I'm looking at all of these moves.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking from the lens of right now. I think

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Speaker 5: I always believe you give a person the benefit of

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Speaker 5: the doubt until they get your reason not to, and

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Speaker 5: so for Christian Parker and this staff, I am giving

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Speaker 5: them the benefit of the doubt that the kinds of

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Speaker 5: players that they are trying to attract and pull in

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Speaker 5: here are players that will fit what they're trying to do,

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Speaker 5: and then I want to see the totality because I

722
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Speaker 5: was one of the main people that said when they

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Speaker 5: got rid of Michael Parsons, I like the move mainly

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Speaker 5: because I'd rather have a defense of a lot of

725
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Speaker 5: players who all play their role really well then necessarily

726
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Speaker 5: having one or two great players and you're spending all

727
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Speaker 5: your resources on that, I think you'll have a better

728
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Speaker 5: unit overall. So if I'm going to do that, then

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Speaker 5: I have to like that. There are some of these

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Speaker 5: moves that will be about role players that will play

731
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Speaker 5: a specific role and that's it, and that's what they'll

732
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Speaker 5: do really well for this unit.

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Speaker 3: I think PJ.

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Speaker 6: A Lock fits into that category. I think he's going

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Speaker 6: to be depth for you at safety, and he's a

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Speaker 6: really good special teams player special teams thirteen hundred special

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Speaker 6: team snaps in his career so far, and he's with

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Speaker 6: Christian Parker for three years in Denver. He didn't really

739
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Speaker 6: see the field very much until Christian Parker around, so

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Speaker 6: or he didn't contribute as much until Christian Parker started

741
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Speaker 6: getting there. So yeah, that might just be a familiarity

742
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Speaker 6: one and he had to very lethal give you death

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Speaker 6: to the safety position, a guy you can help out

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Speaker 6: on special teams.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that means that CJ. Goodwin won't be back.

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Speaker 8: Not necessarily need a lot of good special teamers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, but usually teams will. And the fact

748
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Speaker 5: that they're paying him. I think the report's five million

749
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Speaker 5: for lock. That's a significant amount of money if it's

750
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Speaker 5: just for a special teamers. So he's going to play

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Speaker 5: some defense, I would suspect, but he could be a

752
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Speaker 5: special team's ace, which teams usually have one of those

753
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Speaker 5: guys that they kind of pay a little bit more

754
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Speaker 5: because that's their guy.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be on every unit.

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Speaker 5: He's going to be the guy that they're going to

757
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 5: be expecting to make plays on special teams. And maybe

758
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Speaker 5: he's that kind of player for them.

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Speaker 8: It could be, but this team loves c J.

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Speaker 4: Goodwin.

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Speaker 6: He's been a captain for them for forever, so I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't be shocked if they still brought him back as well.

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Speaker 3: Cool yeah, dev guy, you know, And that's something else

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Speaker 3: that we just all need to be ready for. I

765
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Speaker 3: know it is exciting right now, and we all tampered

766
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Speaker 3: with the Cowboys have to feel the whole roster out,

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Speaker 3: not just the first right guys. So when they signed Sam,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like that don't mean Sam's

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Speaker 3: gonna be one of your starting you know, saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: just in case something may happy, you may be a

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Speaker 3: fallback plan, you may be competing. Well, no, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to earn it. We're just acquiring names. What's my man?

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Speaker 3: The tackle we just signed because I know I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about Tito a Banya.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you got to rid. The whole roster has

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Speaker 3: to be filled out, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna overreact. We're trying to start PJ lot No.

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Speaker 3: In real life, they're probably gonna draft a guy and

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Speaker 3: the drafted guy is gonna work with Thompson and Hooker

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Speaker 3: still here. They just redid his money a little bit,

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Speaker 3: so he'll he'll be around. Those will be your three

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Speaker 3: safety So I don't think the Cowboys are settling at this,

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Speaker 5: Thompson coming from Arizona. He gets a reportedly a three years,

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Speaker 5: thirty three million dollars deal. I guess talk to me

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Speaker 5: like man, he closes gaps really quickly, he runs up

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Speaker 5: and runs support, it can lay up like. He just

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Speaker 5: pretty well. And now again, when you're looking at the

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is he doesn't do so well,

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Speaker 2: but just.

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Speaker 5: Looking at it and then reading what others say about him,

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Speaker 5: it seems like he is a very, very sturdy and

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Speaker 5: versatile player.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think you got it?

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Speaker 3: Derek? I mean, when Christian Parker came out and said, hey,

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877
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: gave you a long list, and then they got to

878
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: go out there and play and be good at those things.

879
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: What I like about this the most is that the

880
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 3: Cowboys aren't taking that long list of things and dry

881
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: put it on some rookie, you know what I'm saying,

882
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: And you know, whatever rookie that that may be, they

883
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: could possibly handle it that long list of things. Give

884
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: me a veteran that's on film doing those things right now.

885
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: So then that when you draft your safety, whoever that

886
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: may be, you bring that guy along slowly and be like, hey,

887
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: follow him around and do exactly what he's doing. But

888
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: we're talking about a guy that can play in the

889
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: nickel play zone or man in the nickel versus big

890
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: wide receivers, smaller wide receivers, he.

891
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: Could play on them, and with the quicker wide receivers he.

892
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 3: Can do it with quicker wide receivers. Now, match up

893
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: depending you don't want you don't want to.

894
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: Like, if you match up against a CD, would you

895
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 5: would you match him up on a CD in the slot?

896
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: CD and JSN are like top five guys.

897
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You wouldn't do that.

898
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: But if we're playing against little little Jordan Humphrey or something,

899
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 3: Hey go get a little Jordan Humpy.

900
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: What little Jordan that.

901
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: Is he still in that he played for somebody? Yeah,

902
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: you know, so that'll be. That'll be. But from a

903
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: long one. But when he's not in the nickel, he

904
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: can go play free, and when he's at free, he's

905
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: got range at free, or he can play as strong

906
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: and he's really good in the run at strong. So

907
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: he's versatile, go everywhere and do everything. So if you're

908
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: asking Cowboy fans, does this stop us from drafting a

909
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: safety now? Because if Thompson is in the nickel, then

910
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: you're a new dude. Will be on the roof. Shout

911
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: out the flissy k for on the roof. If Thompson

912
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: is on the roof, then you're a young dude to

913
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: be at the nickel. You can move him around anywhere

914
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: you want to move him. And you really need a

915
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: creative coach to use that guy max, you know, you

916
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: know to his max, And I think that's what CP

917
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: wants to do. So shout out to shouts out to

918
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: that pick. Please.

919
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 6: I think this is a plus player for you because

920
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: if you look at the safety play of last year,

921
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 6: Oh boy, I mean this is a guy who busted

922
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 6: it on the head. It's it's going to be able

923
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 6: to You're going to be able to move him around

924
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 6: and can do a lot of different things for you.

925
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 6: I saw one clip of Thompson lining up the line

926
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 6: of scrimmage like he was going to blitz and then

927
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: he dropped back like forty yards and broke up a pass.

928
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 8: That's the incredible range.

929
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 6: And so you're you're gonna get a guy who can

930
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: you can cover all the parts of the field. He

931
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 6: can step up and fill in the run game when

932
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 6: he needs you. The one thing I saw is that

933
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 6: on some of the inbreaking routes and comeback routes, he

934
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 6: was a little bit slow to trigger and come back

935
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 6: and make the play. But he can close in a hurry,

936
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 6: and so I think that speed can somewhat make up

937
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 6: for it. He's going to help you a lot at

938
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 6: the safety position based on what you've had there in

939
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 6: the past. And he's got familiar on the staff. He's

940
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 6: with Ryan Smith in Arizona. He was the, if I'm

941
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 6: not mistaken, the corners coach with the Cardinals, but now

942
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 6: he's the secondary coach here with the Cowboys. And he

943
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 6: said at the comic he's told that the comedy is

944
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 6: gonna be working more with.

945
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 8: The safety room.

946
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 6: So he's back with the coach he's familiar with. He's

947
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 6: put some good things on tape. Like Vach said, he's

948
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 6: rangy can fill a lot of different roles for you

949
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 6: based on you know, whatever Christian Parker's vision is for him,

950
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: and it's going to be an upgrade from what you

951
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 6: had there last year. Although that bar is pretty low.

952
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 7: From my end, I don't have much to add to that.

953
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 7: I am excited because physically he's he has the physical

954
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 7: aspect that I want at that position. So I like

955
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 7: how he looks physical. And another thing, I think he's

956
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 7: in his career, like right now, he's at his prime.

957
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 7: This is the time where you either peak or kind

958
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 7: of start trending downwards. So I think he's gonna take

959
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 7: advantage of this opportunity and he will be I believe

960
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 7: right now, based on what I've seen so far, I

961
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 7: think he's going to be an impactful player in the secondary.

962
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: Yep, all right, real quick, before we end the show,

963
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: I did want to talk about one other player. Sam

964
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 5: Howell last night signed to a one year deal just

965
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: from the standpoint of the position, because you know, usually

966
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 5: we know he's coming in here will be a backup obviously,

967
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: or maybe even our third string player. How significant is

968
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 5: this just from the standpoint of your quarterback death and

969
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: thinking about it from the standpoint of if you should

970
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 5: have to play without Dak Prescott for a few games,

971
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 5: what does he provide for you maybe that maybe you

972
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 5: don't already have on your roster.

973
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: Sam has played a bunch of games in the league,

974
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: you know, veteran guy. Whatever. He played with Washington. I

975
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: think he No, he didn't beat this that one time.

976
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, Sam.

977
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: Philly last year, right did.

978
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, his first career star was against Dallas and they won.

979
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: Okay, well whatever, But he's been a little bit quality guy.

980
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: If anything were to happen, I'm just trying to go

981
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 3: draft anyway you feel me. But what I will say

982
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: is we've seen Green Bay take a backup quarterback and

983
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: play a little bit and look fine in two games,

984
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: and that dude go out and get some get some

985
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: money somewhere, you know what I mean. So if Sam

986
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: Howell want to come in and look good for a

987
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: little bit and get us a draft pick in a

988
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: year or something, or get us a compick because he

989
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: went to go make some money somewhere else, I think

990
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: that's ultimately what it's all about. But just in case

991
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: Joe Milton doesn't reach the backup quarterback returns. I guess

992
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: that's another way you can look at it too.

993
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna call BS on that, I'm just gonna go

994
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 5: draft if I lose Dak Prescott for a few games,

995
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: because if the Cowboys seven and zer, let's say, and

996
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 5: then he goes down for three weeks, you ain't going

997
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 5: to draft you, Like, I need somebody that can steady

998
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: this thing and keep me in contention.

999
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: So I ain't say that, you know, miss a few

1000
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: games if he misses a few games, And yeah, sure,

1001
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: I said that. What I'm talking sometimes I don't even

1002
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: want to talk about the other situations like no, no, no.

1003
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 5: And I would I didn't even bring that up if

1004
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: I was talking board from the standpoint of if you

1005
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: get into the season, it was Cooper Rush years ago, right,

1006
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: they were, they're having a really good season.

1007
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: They lose Dak for what four weeks?

1008
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 8: I want to say four or five?

1009
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, something like that, and you just want somebody that's

1010
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: gonna steady this ship. You can't go on a four

1011
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 5: game losing streak. You need somebody that's gonna get you

1012
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 5: at least two of those games, let's say, or three

1013
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 5: of those games if you can, right, so I think

1014
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: that's the point is maybe this experience at quarterback can

1015
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: help you steady if you need it for just a

1016
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 5: short period of time.

1017
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: Also, too, I think if you want to try to

1018
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: win a game, I don't think Milton's ready ready to

1019
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: do that right now. I think they still want to

1020
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: develop his skill set because he's so physically gifted. I

1021
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: think if they had to go win a game, they probably,

1022
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: well Voch probably trust Will Will Grier more than Joe

1023
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: Milton to go win a game. So that might have

1024
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: something to do with white House here.

1025
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 6: I think this is strictly competition in the room, and

1026
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 6: this is going to be a competition in training camp

1027
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 6: with How Joe Milton, Will Greer. For all right, well

1028
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 6: who are you three quarterbacks going to be this year?

1029
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 6: As for who I'd rather have in a game? Is

1030
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 6: nobody neither of them an answer? Because al is How's five.

1031
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 6: This is just facts. I'm not trying to dog on anybody.

1032
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 6: He's five and thirteen. In his career as a starter,

1033
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 6: he has twenty three interceptions to twenty two career touchdown passes.

1034
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 6: So it's kind of been a roller coaster and he

1035
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 6: has had some moments He's had some moments where he

1036
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 6: looks fantastic, but it's just been inconsistent.

1037
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 8: So I don't know. I like Joe Milton's skill set

1038
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 8: a lot.

1039
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot to work with there, and

1040
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 6: I think it's on him to show that he has

1041
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 6: taken a step in his development. And I think that

1042
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 6: this move is to say, look, we need to see

1043
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 6: that growth from me, because you think about the move

1044
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 6: that Dallas made for Trey Lance a few years ago,

1045
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 6: where it was all right, we need to see growth

1046
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 6: here so that we can can trust you and give

1047
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 6: you a better role on this team, and it didn't

1048
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 6: end up working out that way. So I think this

1049
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 6: is a similar deal where the Cowboys are saying, hey,

1050
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 6: we need we want to see growth from Joe Milton

1051
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 6: because he has all the.

1052
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 8: Tool in the world physically. The arm talent is ridiculous.

1053
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 6: But you know, ultimately it's going to be who can

1054
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 6: we rely on if everything hits the fan and we

1055
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 6: need somebody to win. It's a game again knock on

1056
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 6: wood in a situation where that doesn't happen.

1057
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely.

1058
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 7: I mean I was just gonna say, you definitely need

1059
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 7: a competition in that room behind Dak. I mean, we

1060
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 7: saw Milton in a few games last year and we

1061
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 7: know how that went down. I mean, there were a

1062
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 7: lot of there's still a lot of room for improvement

1063
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 7: and development for him. So we'll see what this guy's

1064
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 7: bringing in there. And as far as me, I've been

1065
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 7: a Wheelgreer fan based on that last game we played

1066
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 7: with daking his ear giving him you know, the coaching

1067
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 7: in the plays, but uh yeah, just competition there, what happens.

1068
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 8: And something else to you. You mentioned draft picks.

1069
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: Up until this year when he was a free agent,

1070
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 6: the team has gotten a pick for him every year,

1071
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 6: so if it does end up being a trade deal,

1072
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 6: there could be a way that Dallas gets a pick

1073
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 6: from this.

1074
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 5: All right, that's a wrap. We will be back next week.

1075
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 5: I'm sure there will be more moves that will happen.

1076
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 5: I'm sure I hope they'll be more.

1077
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: Well, we don't know that yet.

1078
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: I don't know that's finalized yet, but we'll keep working

1079
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 5: on that. That is something that's out there as a possibility.

1080
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 5: There will be other players. I'm guessing that we'll be

1081
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: signed between now next week, so we'll talk more about

1082
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: what's happening around free agency, and we'll start also looking

1083
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 5: forward to Okay, now that you've gotten into the depths

1084
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 5: of free agency, you're starting to get a picture of

1085
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 5: what your team's going to look like heading into the draft,

1086
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 5: what needs to happen a draft, and maybe start getting

1087
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: into some of the names that you guys talk about

1088
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 5: on the Draft show that the Cowboys fans need to

1089
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 5: be aware of.

1090
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 6: At twelve and twenty, tell them we should trade up

1091
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 6: to six for Sunny Styles.

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Speaker 5: Hey man, I said that was that you I was

1093
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 5: talking to about that? I was it was you or Nick?

1094
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 5: I was like, if I had the opportunity to package

1095
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: my two first to get up to get mister Styles,

1096
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 5: if interested.

1097
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: If you and right, just go. If if you were

1098
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: the Browns and you had twelve first round grades or

1099
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: however many first round grades you got, eleven, teen, whatever,

1100
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: would you leave the elite of elites just to get

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00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: an extra pick later?

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00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not talking about because would you leave me clear?

1103
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: Let me be clear. Let me be clear.

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Speaker 5: A lot of teams, a lot of teams evaluate things

1105
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 5: very differently. And I will say I've seen teams do things.

1106
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 5: I've been like, what so it doesn't it wouldn't shock

1107
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 5: me if they I don't know what's going on in

1108
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 5: their building.

1109
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: What they're talking about. I have them. All I know

1110
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: is all I know.

1111
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: If if the opportunity was available to me where I

1112
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: could package my two ones and get up into that

1113
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 5: area by the way sunny styles, maybe even the safety

1114
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 5: like I if you got me, if you told me

1115
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 5: I could package those two and I could get a

1116
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 5: player that I feel like is a no miss generational

1117
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 5: type player. Which those tend to be the two names

1118
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 5: that people are throwing out as the two in this draft,

1119
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: and they're both on the defensive side of the ball where

1120
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: I could use them.

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Speaker 3: I'm asking, would you leave the elite dudes just to

1122
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: draft extra cool dudes? Is what I'm saying some things

1123
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: would I'm asking to you, would you do it?

1124
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: It depends on what situation I'm asking you with. It

1125
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Speaker 2: depends on what situation.

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 5: If my team, if my team is one where I

1128
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Speaker 5: feel like I got a lot of piece, I got

1129
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 5: a lot of pieces of to feel, then I may

1130
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 5: be like I want to get more piece, more picks.

1131
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 5: You know, for me, where I look at I think

1132
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 5: the Cowboys need a playmaker, So I would be willing

1133
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: to give up those two picks to do that.

1134
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: If your last man was brown, would you leave the

1135
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: elite dudes to go draft extra cool dude?

1136
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I got an elite dude.

1137
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 3: Do you only want one?

1138
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: No?

1139
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 5: But I want I want as many guys I could

1140
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: surround around that elite dude.

1141
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 7: You've been plas guy.

1142
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, But I go get some lunch please.

1143
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just my opinion. You asked my opinion.

1144
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: That's my opinion.

1145
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: I had debate, Team Dari. I'm drafted because that's what drafting.

1146
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 3: Drafting is for, to find the best dudes you possibly can.

1147
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: Let's just let's just let the Cowboys come up and

1148
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: get the best guys.

1149
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Speaker 5: By the way, this happens every year. You act like

1150
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 5: it doesn't happen every year. Teams trade down from that

1151
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 5: top five, that top ten and give other teams that

1152
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 5: want to get up to get a certain player.

1153
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: They do it every year every year. So I had

1154
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: no difference.

1155
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Speaker 3: I had to be a team, Dare.

1156
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 8: I'm sorry for prolonging this.

1157
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Speaker 2: No, that's fine, I appreciate it. I'll join usuiting back

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