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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast wants to find Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: a new job. Welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I come

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Speaker 1: to you from a virtual room filled with some heroes.

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Speaker 1: The offwad mentioned Mark Sessler. Don't go anywhere, Mark, we

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Speaker 1: need your buddy now more than ever. And Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you were to voluntarily leave the company

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Speaker 1: to pursue other projects and you reached out for help,

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Speaker 1: obviously we would help you on that end. But uh,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't really want to pursue that. Even

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Speaker 1: as I thought, well, I mean, these are either listener

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Speaker 1: generated or it came from inside our own company. That

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Speaker 1: that message, and it said that the It didn't say

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Speaker 1: that I'm looking for a new job. It said the

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Speaker 1: a t N podcast I believe is looking at help,

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Speaker 1: hoping to find me a new job. So it's sort

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Speaker 1: of an unsettling way to open um a show that

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Speaker 1: will probably wind on for eighty or ninety minutes, but

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Speaker 1: I'll do my best. No one said it means you

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Speaker 1: have to leave this job. Maybe it's a white you

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Speaker 1: know deal where you get a side hustle you start

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Speaker 1: working for the Browns. You get that double stream of

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Speaker 1: income and suddenly like the whole assessler household is just flying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know a few people that have worked

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Speaker 1: for the Browns and there, um, you know, they're not

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Speaker 1: far from us right now. Dan. It also doesn't always

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Speaker 1: turn out well. You know, sometimes those stays with the

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Speaker 1: Browns end under mysterious circumstances. What's that I hear in

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Speaker 1: the background. Oh, oh my gosh, that's oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's Nick Stoke's music. Just right crash, just right, crushed

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Speaker 1: the beer cans and like dump them over my head,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean I've been known to do that.

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Speaker 1: I've been known to do that. Well you know, Um,

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Speaker 1: some things are best left to mystery. Oh, Shook, he's back.

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Speaker 1: How about that? You know? Nick? I was thinking, um,

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Speaker 1: that the chiseled body, Shook. I was thinking, you are

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Speaker 1: You're you have a striking appearance because of your well built,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going for you right now, nick, um.

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Speaker 1: But we need now is to put the We need

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Speaker 1: to put together some symmetrical It would be nice. But

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Speaker 1: I had a few project ideas, some um and you

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Speaker 1: I just get a paycheck. Um, Nick shook? And that's

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Speaker 1: I get that a lot. You know, people think they're

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Speaker 1: Or I usually pat them on the back and say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I've never heard that in my life before.

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Speaker 1: Thank you on the back. Yeah, how about Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: at just the start. How about Nick Shook Me All

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Speaker 1: Night Long? And that's a sex and relationship podcast that

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Speaker 1: it's time to start thinking bigger. That's all. Nick. I'm

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Speaker 1: least to what I can so important sound like, go ahead, Mark, No,

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Speaker 1: projected Starters, Yes, projected Starters Autopsy, where we dig through

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Speaker 1: the end of the show, but before that, let's hit

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Speaker 1: the news. I mean, let's face for the giants are

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Speaker 1: four boys. That's what we chose for Al. Come on,

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Speaker 1: granted it was um not Al's finest moment, that that

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Speaker 1: Greg It's Michael's is the target here but there's also

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Speaker 1: You know where Sean McVeigh said, who wasn't was it

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Speaker 1: Sean mc there was a Jeff Fisher standing back And

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Speaker 1: have been on so many NFL films properties that I've

429
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Speaker 1: lost traction. Man, that's an NFL throw right there. Yeah,

430
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Speaker 1: well it's yeah. Now, you know, I was thinking we'll

431
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Speaker 1: save this for the Fantasy Spectacular coming up later this summer. Uh,

432
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Speaker 1: but I wonder they're gonna be playing from behind a lot.

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Speaker 1: Um Goff is probably gonna get a season full of starts.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of wide receivers. How about t J.

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Speaker 1: Hockenson under the radar as a big ad tight end,

436
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Speaker 1: very thin and fantasy He was great last recent years.

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Speaker 1: Um all right. In other trope alert news, trop at

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Speaker 1: tropolt tropet, Hey listen, mac June mac Jones is the

439
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Speaker 1: new hot quarterback with all the swag with the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: But do not forget that Cam Newton is a former

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Speaker 1: m v P now in the second year of the

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Speaker 1: Patriots system. And guess what offense coordinated. Josh McDaniels had

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Speaker 1: this to say. He came back this year at a

444
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Speaker 1: much different position. He has a different grasp of the offense,

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Speaker 1: different understanding of the terminology. Now we're working on refining

446
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: the precision, the details. Okay, so what does that mean?

447
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: He just had no idea what he's doing Last year.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? I mean, yeah, that's the that's

449
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Speaker 1: the year too. We get the guy, gets the offense

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Speaker 1: a little more. It's usually more about like you, but

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, but it's it also can be for free agents,

452
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Speaker 1: especially it might be like a pandemic trope because you

453
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Speaker 1: didn't have the off season last year. And that part

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Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm buying it. I mean also, it's like

455
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Speaker 1: they're a completely different offense, like they you know, you

456
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Speaker 1: can read this in Greg's projected starters, but it's a

457
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Speaker 1: stat that's out there. I mean, no team ran less

458
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Speaker 1: two tight ends. They probably will be you know, top

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Speaker 1: tree in the league with that this year. It's so

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Speaker 1: it's like it's not like the same playbook. They got

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different players that finally in the news. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Greg on Tuesday show, you were just talking about it. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about You'll see I'll see you the crossroads

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Speaker 1: where you won't be lonely. I see you went. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna missay everybody, especially the uncle Charles Um, Chandler Jones,

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt both at the crossroads. Well popped up

467
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Speaker 1: that Chandler Jones, you know, maybe connected to some trade rumors,

468
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Speaker 1: and what did he do? Speaking of trope alerts, he

469
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Speaker 1: deleted the Cardinals from his social media in it's as

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Speaker 1: entirety no more mentions of the Arizona Cardinals on Chandler

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Speaker 1: jones social greg. It is looking it up right now.

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Speaker 1: He can't even believe it. He needs to get to

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Speaker 1: the Graham right now? What does that mean, Chookie? Is

474
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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones on the way out? He certainly must be disgruntled.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think athletes do this seventy percent of

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Speaker 1: the time solely for the attention, as if they don't

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Speaker 1: get enough. So I get pretty annoyed by stuff like this.

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Speaker 1: But again, we are in June, so we need something

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Speaker 1: to feed the beast, and if we're gonna feed a

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Speaker 1: controversy beast, it's definitely somebody wiping stuff out from their

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Speaker 1: social media. Personally, I don't know if this really does

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Speaker 1: mean he's to scrountled, or if he's preparing for what

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Speaker 1: could eventually be the inevitable, or if we just have

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Speaker 1: some people who are just scrubbing social media timelines and

485
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Speaker 1: just happened to look and say, oh look, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: mention his team anymore. Oh no, like like what if

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Speaker 1: I deleted around then? What if I got rid of

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Speaker 1: that around the NFL right out of my bio? Is

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Speaker 1: everybody gonna think I'm just Gronald? What if I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to say Maybe I think perhaps David Eally would

491
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Speaker 1: would ping you on the messenger with a few questions.

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Speaker 1: But maybe Jones doesn't like all the pop J J.

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Speaker 1: Watt's getting as like Mr Cardinal because you know, you

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Speaker 1: see him at the Sun's game and J. J. Watt

495
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Speaker 1: immediately is like always tweeting about the Suns and Phoenix Sports.

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Speaker 1: He's in the front row at the game, and it's

497
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Speaker 1: like Chandler Jones. It's like, what's up? What's up with me?

498
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Speaker 1: You know? What about my shine? There also some whispers

499
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Speaker 1: that it could be related to a trade for Julio Jones,

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Speaker 1: Jones for Jones. In fact, that came from our friend

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Speaker 1: Jason some Waldi texted us with some concerns about that.

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Speaker 1: So not a report, it's just Cardinal super fan Jason. No,

503
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Speaker 1: he didn't come up with that out of thin air.

504
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Speaker 1: He said that, you know, the streets were talking that

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Speaker 1: he's got his own I guess chat rooms in areas

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Speaker 1: that he hangs out in where this was becoming a thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's from the Associated Press necessarily,

508
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Speaker 1: but hey, listen Chandler Jones and in a second, uh

509
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Speaker 1: for Julio Jones. But I don't know if that that

510
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Speaker 1: helps the Falcons salary cap fish. I don't know, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love you jack Um all right. If I,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if I scrubbed you guys from my

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Speaker 1: social entirely and then any reference to the A T

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Speaker 1: N podcast, do you think that would maybe that would

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Speaker 1: earn like a subreddit post or something. Would that get

516
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Speaker 1: a little pop? Is Dan on his way out? Is

517
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Speaker 1: he starting his own platform, the Dan Hanss Network? Just think?

518
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Speaker 1: And uh, the boys on your and Squirrels. I think

519
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Speaker 1: you might be like a little annoyed with the I

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Speaker 1: think in your mind. I mean, anyone would think that

521
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Speaker 1: stead it's going to generate this sort of American groundswell

522
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Speaker 1: of attention. It might just be a little bit lesser

523
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Speaker 1: or at least it would be like an hour of

524
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Speaker 1: attention and then people would move on to the next

525
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Speaker 1: anti drama. So I don't think it's worth it. It's

526
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: like Chandeler Jones the same thing, only on a smaller scale,

527
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Speaker 1: basically like one hour of people writing up a aggregated

528
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: blog post about it. Yes, Chook shook. The leads off

529
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Speaker 1: of is around the NFL stuff no one notices In

530
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: like a week later, he's like, can I put it back?

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Speaker 1: Is that it's like when you post a picture on

532
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Speaker 1: Instagram and deleted because it didn't get enough likes. Yet

533
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff nobody saw. This tree falls in

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Speaker 1: the woods, Nobody hears it. That's a great episode of

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Speaker 1: Nick Shook. By the way, when you're social posting, you

536
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Speaker 1: keep going back and expecting pop and it doesn't get

537
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Speaker 1: you a little shook there. I like that. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news projected starters. We dig

539
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Speaker 1: through what's left Greg's projected orders series, what work Greg did,

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Speaker 1: and now it's upon us too. Look upon it on

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Speaker 1: a cold slate, take out the scalpel, another cutting devices,

542
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Speaker 1: poke around and see what's inside. Market is gone. I

543
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Speaker 1: think one of the most you know, so it's split

544
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Speaker 1: up into eight divisions, and I noted this last week.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the most um intriguing entries is

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Speaker 1: the a f C South because there was a period,

547
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Speaker 1: you know, when the Texans were rising with the Shawn

548
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Speaker 1: Watson and uh, you know, the Colts had Philip Rivers

549
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Speaker 1: and you can look at the Titans as a team

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Speaker 1: that was a Super Bowl threat, and then then suddenly

551
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Speaker 1: the Jackson Dill Jaguars got Trevor Lawrence that you might

552
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Speaker 1: just think that this division, after so many years in

553
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Speaker 1: the past of having issues, had risen. I think the

554
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Speaker 1: way that you've outlined what's happened to NFC South, it's

555
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Speaker 1: completely different. Um, and I think the one that they

556
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Speaker 1: caught my attention the most was the cults. And just

557
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Speaker 1: for a couple of little things. I thought this was

558
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Speaker 1: imaginative because you mentioned, um, the quarterback position, and we've

559
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Speaker 1: talked about Carson Wentz a billion times, but if you

560
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Speaker 1: want to talk about not a corpse, but someone that's

561
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Speaker 1: been under the knife a lot, it is Carson Wentz.

562
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Speaker 1: And his backup is Jacob Eeson, who is completely untested.

563
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Speaker 1: And you know, any one of these teams that lose

564
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Speaker 1: their starters, you're in some you're in fair hot water,

565
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Speaker 1: and you have a lot of you can make some excuses,

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Speaker 1: but that would be the floor falling out in a

567
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Speaker 1: division they very clearly could win and you made a

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Speaker 1: note that why not um reunite Frank Reich with none

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Speaker 1: other than Nick Foles. It's too awkward, as you pointed out, Um,

570
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Speaker 1: but that would be one of the more intriguing things

571
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Speaker 1: to happen in the offseason if you wanted to generate

572
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Speaker 1: one more story. The other thing I thought about the

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Speaker 1: cults because you couldn't you know, you know that they

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Speaker 1: just after years of getting better and better under Chris Ballard,

575
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Speaker 1: that that's there's a pause on that they did not

576
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Speaker 1: get better this year. And I think if you're kind

577
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Speaker 1: of casually watching football, you would say, but yeah, but

578
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Speaker 1: they have the best offensive line. UM pans down like

579
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is in the best situation because of their

580
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Speaker 1: whole line. They're not gonna get Eric Fisher for you know,

581
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: we don't know, like it could be weeks, but in general,

582
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: like they aren't the number one offensive line in the league,

583
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Speaker 1: and you pointed out that they had taken a step

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Speaker 1: back and who knows where they are this season. Offensive

585
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: lines are so unpredictable, like they were seventh last year

586
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: in Pro Football Focus. But it's just one of those

587
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Speaker 1: things that like every play by play guy just says

588
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: because I don't know. He's heard other people saying it's

589
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Speaker 1: like they're the best offensive blind in the league now.

590
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Speaker 1: They really weren't. A year ago. They were good, they

591
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Speaker 1: weren't maybe like dominant, and they're counting on you know,

592
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Speaker 1: they're counting on guys to step in right away and

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Speaker 1: do things on on both sides of all, Like Quiddi

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Speaker 1: pay has to come in and I think be a

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Speaker 1: factor for them. They lost a lot on the defensive line,

596
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: not not feeling the Colts. You want to keep that

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Speaker 1: in the division. You go to Houston and just look

598
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Speaker 1: at their backfield. We know the Deshaun Watson situation. We

599
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: know how they've thrown a lot of stuff at the

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Speaker 1: wall to address that or prepare for Plan B. You know,

601
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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, Jeff Driscoll, Davis Mills, that draft pick. But

602
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Speaker 1: you wanna talk about throwing stuff at the wall and

603
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: seeing if it sticks. Look at their running back room.

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Speaker 1: There's seven guys on this list, not one of them.

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Speaker 1: To me, it looks like your potential like the definite

606
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Speaker 1: lead back. Because you got David Johnson, who they we

607
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: know how they got him in the trade with DeAndre Hopkins.

608
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: They signed Mark Ingram, they signed Philip Lindsay, who might

609
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Speaker 1: have gotten a raw deal in Denver. Uh. And then

610
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Speaker 1: Nick Casterio Pools went out of his New England bag

611
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Speaker 1: and signed Rex Burke Head. Not to mention the other

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Speaker 1: three guys on the list, Buddy how Dontrell Hilliard and

613
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Speaker 1: Scottie Phillips. There's so many running backs in this room

614
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Speaker 1: and no clear leader or direction. I mean, they could

615
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Speaker 1: have them all battle it out, I guess, and see

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Speaker 1: which one survived. But um, I mean, I guess for

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Speaker 1: this type of team, this is the best approach. It's definitely,

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Speaker 1: um an intriguing, if not hilarious approach. I had looked

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Speaker 1: at they were on my list, the Texans, they have

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Speaker 1: two and fifteen written all over them. If Tyrode is

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, right and who knows if he even makes

622
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Speaker 1: it through the season, and then you start going down

623
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Speaker 1: the depth chart there if is not even like I

624
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Speaker 1: mean he, I guess he is high up on their concerns.

625
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Speaker 1: But there are position groups that I think are worse,

626
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Speaker 1: you know, compared to compared to league average. You know

627
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Speaker 1: that I counted three defensive players that I know are starting,

628
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Speaker 1: and like the rest of the defense is just total competition.

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Speaker 1: I think if anything, though, like they for all I

630
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Speaker 1: look at the Texans as a team, there's a lot

631
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Speaker 1: of like delusions of grandeur um running around inside that organization.

632
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Speaker 1: But um, I don't think that extends to the general

633
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Speaker 1: manager who went out and signed a ton of people

634
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Speaker 1: to one year deals because it's a patch here and

635
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I think they knew that. And it's like, you're gonna learn,

636
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Speaker 1: gonna look a whole lot different a year from now

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Speaker 1: and start to get some draft picks back, but it's

638
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a really ugly autumn. Um. I'll move over

639
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: to the a f C. West, where Greg had rightly

640
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: pointed out that there are some questions on that offense,

641
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: which is, you know, kind of a bummer. You don't

642
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: want there to be questions about the offense because you

643
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: have this fantastic young quarterback in Justin Herbert coming off

644
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: a record breaking rookie season, but now you have him

645
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: on a new offense. Um, Joe Lombardi is the new

646
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: UM offensive coordinator. Uh, the offensive line should be better,

647
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, the skill group that that is on my radar,

648
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen needs to stay healthy here. Um Hunter Henry's

649
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: gone Jared Cook in two thousand twenty one. Like I,

650
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: like everyone else, I've been sucked into Jared cook um

651
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: for a bunch of years, like two thousand eighteen through

652
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, maybe even before that two thousand seventeen maybe,

653
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: But at this point you kind of know what you're

654
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: gonna get. Um. Mike Williams another guy very up and down. Um,

655
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: and you know they picked up his fifth year option.

656
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: They're hoping he has a big breakthrough year. Uh. Josh

657
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: Palmer's there an unproven guy, Julio Jones. As you point out,

658
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: Greg makes a lot of sense there, but the Charges

659
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: probably aren't gonna do that cool thing for their fan base. Uh.

660
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: So this is what you're gonna get, you know, they

661
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: gotta get. They need Keenan to stay healthy. Austin Ekeler's

662
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: gotta stay healthy, or this could go sideways. Oh yeah, autopsy.

663
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: Look underneath the curtain with the chart. I think it's

664
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: all like right, not a fear of things going wrong

665
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: for Herbert, because I like Herbert so much, and I've

666
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: seen them try to rebuild these offensive lines before, and

667
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: it does all look great on paper. It's a little

668
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: hard to imagine that they don't improve to average with

669
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: the with the personnel they brought in, But I don't know,

670
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: something always goes wrong. And then this week, you know,

671
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: Lombardi was talking about that, you know, he thinks Mike

672
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Williams gonna have big numbers. Yeah, that they raised a

673
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: lot of fantasy alarms because essentially Mike Williams is playing

674
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: the X is like Michael Thomas in the Saints offense.

675
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: It's more or less what Joe Lombardi's trying to do.

676
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: He's not trying to reinvent the wheel that the Saints

677
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: run a pretty conventional um but effect the NFL offense.

678
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: And if Mike Williams is that guy that they're relying

679
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: on to count, like to catch like ninety hundred balls,

680
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. That just feels like a lot to

681
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: be counting in. They're not really the same player. And

682
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like Mike Williams like two years ago lead

683
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: the league in yards per catch, I mean at a

684
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: thousand yards season. He's never had more than fifty catches

685
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: though in any year, and he's had some durability issues.

686
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: So it's kind of of a projection to suddenly say

687
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: he's our Michael Thomas, I mean we will see not

688
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: only that, but I also worry about their death because

689
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: if there's one team that's been bitten by the injury

690
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: bug pretty bad on the offensive side of the ball

691
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: last three to five years, it's them, Keenan Allen being

692
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: one one year. And if that happened again, whether it

693
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: was him or Mike Williams or somebody else, God forbid,

694
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: they're they're in a world of trouble if that happens, right,

695
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: LOBARTI is not scheming you out of injury problems. I

696
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: don't feel like in case you're just joining us. This

697
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: is projected starters. What else you got? They're worth it?

698
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: The worth it? Then you've been pushing this projected starter

699
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: seg I think that I think the drop you know

700
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm up to drop. I've used it three times now,

701
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: and I think that's pushing us over the finish line

702
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 1: right now. In some medical like sort of autopsy type

703
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: talk into her, I'll throw one in. Maybe just you

704
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: want your doctor, Michael Boden cap go ahead and your

705
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: blue scrubs, or how about that what's who's that quack

706
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: that that everyone gets on that everyone retweets despite him

707
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: getting like you know, fired from the Chargers and kicked

708
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: out of the NFL and political license. Yeah. Um, Devin

709
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: Bush is a guy coming off of a major injury.

710
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: And just because we haven't mentioned his name all off season,

711
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: he does strike me as this guy like everyone thinks

712
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: Devin Bush is already Devin White or Roquan Smith and

713
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: they're just like, Okay, you're gonna get Devon Bush back,

714
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: and like that's going to really help the The history

715
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: of the Steelers defense and inside linebackers incredible. It's like

716
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that out of Devon Bush. Like he

717
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: is a lash player that you see with with splash plays.

718
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: I I don't know if he's been particularly effective, and

719
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: he's coming off of a major injury, and that that

720
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: is a thin position for the Steelers if you want

721
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: to pick on their defense. Their their defense was number

722
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: one in d v o A last year. It was

723
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 1: a good defense. But they've lost a couple of people

724
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: and they need Devin Bush uh to be to take

725
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: a big step and people are just kind of assuming

726
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. It's like I gotta see that happen.

727
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean, also, I think the thin a cornerback I'll

728
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: stay in the af C North. And you know, if

729
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a team that could be

730
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: experiencing some shortness of breath, maybe even you know, heart

731
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: issues if they don't um get production at the past

732
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: rushing position, it could be the Ravens. And Gregg points

733
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: out that, you know, every year it feels like they

734
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: lose their number one dude, uh, and like that happened again,

735
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: but they now have Tighess Bowser, Pernell McPhee and Jalen

736
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: Ferguson as their lead dudes who last year and they

737
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, they have the rookie too, but last year

738
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: those guys combined for seven sacks. You're asking, and the

739
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Ravens aren't necessarily like when you're a rookie jump in

740
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: in um play as much as you normally would like.

741
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: They kind of slow baked them, so they're gonna need

742
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: help there. I also look at their backup quarterback position

743
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: if anything happens to Lamar Jackson, and I guess, like,

744
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's cliche to say you worry about

745
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson getting injured, but he's that kind of a quarterback.

746
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Your backup is Trace McSorley, who I like is like

747
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: maybe a little gadget type player here there. But I

748
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: wonder if Eric to Costa, who is always an act

749
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: of GM, might look for some veterans um and both

750
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: of those spots, you know, heading towards the end of

751
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: training camp to patch that up. I think we got

752
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: a glimpse of what the Ravens would look like with

753
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: Trace McSorley in that Monday night game against the Browns,

754
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: lav Lar Jackson had to run to the locker room. Thankfully,

755
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: he is able to um overcome the quote unquote cramps

756
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: and come back in time to lead them to victory.

757
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: But you wouldn't want to be caught in that situation.

758
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: You're feeling good. When Trace McSorley was out there, he

759
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: did make like one throw, but after that it pretty

760
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: much bogged down. Brown's fans were just where they were

761
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: feeling themselves. And then and then there comes Lamar running

762
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: out of the bathroom. I really turned into like the

763
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: game of the year in the NFL, toilet paper hanging

764
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: out of his pants. That was not a great ending

765
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: for the Browns and their fans, but that was great theater.

766
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: That whole drama, the whole game was really I mean

767
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: if anything, you could say the Browns like answered a

768
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: lot of doubters on their on their offense too, but

769
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: it was Lamar was playing the Browns. How did I

770
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: not connect that? Uh, I'm gonna keep this. I'm gonna

771
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: keep this in the a f C. North and go

772
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh real quick, just because Greg you brought

773
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, Devin Bush. Another defensive situation that I think

774
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: is worth watching is t J. Watt's effectiveness now that

775
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: Buddy Pree is not opposite him. After Buddy Pree got

776
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: hurt last year, his pressure percentage Corn the next Gen

777
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: dropped by like ten, which was because he was watching you.

778
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: You're the next gen guy. You that's kind of you

779
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: steak that as your corner, your next gen. Cynthia is

780
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: there too. I don't know if there's a little bit

781
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: of no, no, we're we're friendly. Were the same team, Yeah,

782
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: but she has her supercomputer. She's not just leaning on

783
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: sparaging comments about the supercomputer at least passed through your mind.

784
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: You haven't shared them in public. I mean, I got

785
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: a laptop. We're all right, We're We're cynthiaon soon. It's

786
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: been on my list of to do this too to answer, Um,

787
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: all the slights that Nick has thrown, Yeah, and all

788
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: the mental ones also keeping it in Pittsburgh. Their offensive line,

789
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: for me, is still a concern. Um. You know, I

790
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: recall Draft Day and and Adid's report, which was that

791
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: it was clear that they knew they needed offensive line help,

792
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: but they liked to blend their board and need at

793
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: the same time. And they went with Nazi Harris in

794
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: the first round. And you know, on paper, you're like, well,

795
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: that's an upgrade over James Connor. But I look at

796
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: that starting five and I'm not super encouraged. I know

797
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: some people are bullish on Kevin Dotson at left guard.

798
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: They drafted a center in the third round, Kendrick Green.

799
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: Will see if he starts, and you have David DeCastro,

800
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not happy about their tackles. Um. From this

801
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: point right now and another next gen dive real quick, Um.

802
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: The Steelers were second to last in the league and

803
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: expected rushing yards per attempt, which basically measures how effective

804
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: their offensive line is. The only team that was worse

805
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: than them was the Browns. But the difference between the

806
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: Browns and them was the Browns running backs overcame that consistently.

807
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: They posted the best rushing yards over expectation per at

808
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: temph in the entire NFL, the Steelers, and that was

809
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: at plus one point one five yards per attempt. So

810
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: those running backs were consistently exceeding expectation and doing their

811
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: job to a very high degree. The Steelers were at

812
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: negative zero point zero one yards per attempt, So the

813
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: running backs were getting effective and their offensive line was

814
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: also ineffective. So if you run back a line that

815
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: looks very similar this year, you add nausea Harris, that's

816
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: a lot to put on the shoulders of a rookie

817
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: who does have a lot of mileage on him coming

818
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: out of Alabama. So I think that's gonna be a

819
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: big thing to watch, um for the Steelers this year.

820
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: And how in the chances for their offense. And if

821
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: we're carving up the a f C. North, I might

822
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: as well plug in on the Bengals here and Greg

823
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: you pointed out and it makes ends, um, there's potential

824
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: here for this offense to take a big jump. Now,

825
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: the Joe Burrow a c L situation and ripped up

826
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: his knee something fierce, uh, And it's good that he's

827
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: back practicing and O T A s and you hope

828
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: he's close to the same guy. Um, there's a bit

829
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: of a projection here that he makes the second year

830
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: leap and and improves as a player if the knee cooperates.

831
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: And then you have you know, you got Jamaar Chase there. Now, Uh,

832
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: you have Tyler Boyd, underrated guy, te Higgins, Joe Mixing

833
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 1: and running back. And I don't know what to take

834
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: from the Joe Mixing experience at this point, but we

835
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: know he's fantastically talented and he still has prime years

836
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: ahead of him. The offensive line, as you point out, Greg,

837
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Penney Sewell would have been the guy. A

838
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: logical pick there, but you know what, there are pieces

839
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: there that they that are developing. If the offensive line

840
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: gets better, and they did bring in Riley Reef. Of

841
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: course they're to help on that end with these weapons

842
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: and burrows. Henchel, I'm not saying there's gonna be four

843
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: teams in the a f C North with nine plus wins.

844
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: I just think that Cincinnati might muck some things up.

845
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: And you know the bullies like Cessilaer and the Browns,

846
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: uh looking down and pointing and laughing at them, they

847
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: might not be doing that if this team comes together

848
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: a little quickly, more quickly than people anticipate. I mean

849
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: a year ago I said that I thought Zach Taylor

850
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: had a chance to be Coach of the Year. I

851
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of it comes down to the specialness

852
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: that they've known where Zack Taylor brings. But I don't

853
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: think the Bengals are a two or three win team.

854
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: They they have a pretty pretty good roster on offense.

855
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: They should be a team that goes out and you know,

856
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: they beat Tennessee last year. That's the one game I

857
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: look at where I thought you kind of got a

858
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: glimpse bad team to give you a little glimpse of

859
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: what they can be with Borrow healthy and all that business. Um,

860
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: they lost their quarterback, the floor fell out. They've been

861
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: ravaged by injuries really as much as any team in

862
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: that division or that conference. Over the last couple of years.

863
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: You haven't really had a chance to see what they

864
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: can be. They can win eight games. I don't know

865
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: if the defense is gonna be worth a damn there,

866
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: and that's problem and we've talked about the coaching staff

867
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: on this show. But their offense I think can keep

868
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: them in games. I would take that young skill group,

869
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: not counting quarterbacks. I guess I'm going like just running

870
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: back receiver group of young players over any in the NFL.

871
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I mean Dallas would be in

872
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: the mix. I mean, there there'd be other teams in

873
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: the mix. But I think I would take that because

874
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: I partly because I just loved T Higgins so much,

875
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm kind of assuming Jamaar Chase is gonna

876
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: be awesome. But I did notice kind of doing this exercise,

877
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: the Bengals have completely changed their approach of like player acquisition.

878
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna work, but they were

879
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: the number one team in terms of drafting development in

880
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. Year after year they dominated this stat which

881
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: was just like how many snaps did you have from

882
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: players he drafted? They would be like far and away

883
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: ahead of the entire NFL. Now was that working particularly?

884
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: It was working? Okay, they were, you know, they were

885
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: making the playoffs and losing usually under Marvin Lewis. Now

886
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: you look at their defense, it's all free agents from

887
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: other places that you know, we're mostly let downs and

888
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: at least at some points like DJ Reader, Ogan, Jovi Hendrickson,

889
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: Von Bell Wuzier from Dallas, you got Trey Wayne's, Mike

890
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: Kelton came in like that is just a lot of

891
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: guys from other places in your county on lou Albano

892
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: to just make it work that usually doesn't work. They're

893
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: like they are. Everyone says like the middle class of

894
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: free agency is kind of dead. You know, it's either

895
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: like start but except for the Bengals, they are all

896
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: about the middle class. I'd have to think Green Bay

897
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: would be up to two. But I can already see

898
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: um a trend, and I can already tell what's gonna

899
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: happen on this show. If Cleveland starts out like one

900
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: in three or one in four or two and four,

901
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: it's it's like here we are. Cleveland had one nice

902
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: season and everyone's over it. Now it's like they've been

903
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: It's it's an off season where they're being a little overrated.

904
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Now at this point, it's tune. People are tired of that,

905
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be exhaustions sit in. You know, the

906
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Saints could be good for like eighteen years in a row.

907
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: The Packers can be good for but Cleveland had their

908
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: one season. Now let's have the Bengals come nipped them

909
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: in the butt and you know, take them from fourth

910
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: to third, third to fourth place, and the Steelers suddenly

911
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: are seeming like there's so much better than Cleveland, and

912
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: we just trust the Ravens and the whole you know what.

913
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: That's why I have Nick Shook who's about six ft

914
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: three and built a bricks to start throwing punches. If

915
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: you guys get to uh you know, loose on this front,

916
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: you better keep it. You better keep your traps closed.

917
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm a little annoyed. I mean, Mark, we've been We've

918
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: been prepared for this. We've been steeled by the year

919
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: that was two thousand nineteen. I'll tell you what. The

920
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: vitriol that I endured online while working for the Browns

921
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: as they went down in a massive ball of flames,

922
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: it was unlike anything I've ever experienced working here and

923
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: ranking players and upsetting fans because they're guys ninth when

924
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: he should be second in their opinion. Uh So, people

925
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: love for the hype machine to to go down and

926
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: crash and burn. But um, even if they did start

927
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: one and three, it's a long season. Remember they got

928
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: blown out in Week one last year. I'm sure you

929
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: guys will be totally calm on a Sunday night podcast

930
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: that if they're oh well yeah, yeah, it's a long season,

931
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: very measured. All your points about the US getting on

932
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: you for the Browns and market like those are Thursday

933
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: show stuff. By then you'll love calm down a little bit.

934
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: I think I'll be too afraid on Sunday nights, like

935
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: we know not. You gotta look in the eyes. You

936
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: gotta see where the Sessler eyes are at before you

937
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: make any comments at all. But there's you know, there's

938
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: being a Browns fan right now. Yes, you have to

939
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: deal with the expectations. But on the plus side, like

940
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: well draft time as an example, it's like everyone is

941
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: just genuflecting at the altar of the Cleveland Browns that

942
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: everything they do is genius. So if you're gonna get

943
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: that type of positive buzz around your organization, you've got

944
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: to deal with the expectation heat that comes with it.

945
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: It's part of the price. I had this very weird dream.

946
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: I will not take more than a minute on this

947
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: last night. Um, it's one of those ones where you

948
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: wake up and it's like five twelve in the morning

949
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: and like you have no idea who you are. But

950
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: I was at an airport with you, Dan, and we

951
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: were in this like insane chase to try to find luggage.

952
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: And I was trying to get Kevin Stefanski's luggage um

953
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: for him, and I was meant to then take it

954
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: to the Browns Complex, but I couldn't find it, and

955
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: I kept getting lost and it was snowing out, and

956
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: then you were like, hey, man, I'm good, Like we

957
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: were going to a hotel, and You're like, I found

958
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: my baggage, so are you good? Like can you figure

959
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: this out? I'm like, I guess so. And I'm walking

960
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: around with this like sort of rather like strange, colorful

961
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: bag that belongs to Kevin Stefanski. And then the dream ended.

962
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I didn't fulfill the journey on any level. What the

963
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: dream about that Stefanski is like jockey? I think I

964
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: was like the guy that would be like, hey, can

965
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: you do us a favor? Can you just you know,

966
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: Fancy's gotta go go bring his luggage to the complex

967
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: and don't don't forget anything. And I was like there

968
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: was baggage everywhere people were Wearing's final day with the

969
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. That may be true. Stefanski is like, I've

970
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: got some sensitive materials coming in from nick Oaragua. Can

971
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: you call up Sessler to pick it up? That is

972
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: that's the dream book would say that that's market dealing

973
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: with the stress and weight of carrying the Browns bag

974
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: on the national perspective and dealing with the fire from

975
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: you guys and the pressure and it's getting to him

976
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: and it's getting into his subconscious and the season can't

977
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: get here. An I could not think that's well well

978
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: assessed into that anymore. Um, I have one last one

979
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: before we uh if anybody else jumps in and go ahead,

980
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: jump in. But you know, Greg, I don't know. Listen,

981
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: we do a lot of stuff together on on television

982
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: and on this podcast, and so I've heard this a lot,

983
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: and I've read this now in your piece of record

984
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: on the two thousand one season upcoming projected Starters. I

985
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: need receipts on this Russell Wilson League m v P promotion,

986
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: this this theory or this thing you've been propagating for months.

987
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: It was Sunday Sunday night football game where it was

988
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: like it was a pregame interview and it was all

989
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: about in all the media outlets saying how he's never

990
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: received an m v P boat like that. You know,

991
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: that was all part of it. Yeah, But your theory here,

992
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: um and correct me if I'm wrong, is that Russell

993
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Wilson spearheaded this media narrative. That right, that's what you're saying.

994
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: You're calling it a promotion, that he was running behind

995
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: the scenes. I mean, yeah, pretty much that he was.

996
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: He was um contributing to it. He talked, He talked

997
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: publicly about like what an m v P would mean

998
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: to him, and that he wants to be the greatest

999
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: in the game, and like that is what he wants.

1000
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: He was asked about it. I'm sure unless you can

1001
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: shop point. I'm just saying you're bringing up enough that

1002
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: I need proof at this point that he was actually

1003
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: doing this. I don't want to vote. More importantly, I

1004
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: want to win the award, Wilson said September. I mean,

1005
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: what are you what are you asking me here? He's

1006
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: doing it. He's got the pr arm I stand by it.

1007
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: I do. Like you also ended your Seahawks right up

1008
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: with this little blurb also popular with Seahawks fans, and

1009
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,959
Speaker 1: he shout out to their status as a special breed

1010
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: of humanity, more knowledgeable and inexplicable than any other collection

1011
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: of people on Earth. What do you have to do

1012
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: over there, rosent Bow, Yeah, what's that about? Just messing around?

1013
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: You also jumped off the last year. Uh yeah, well

1014
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 1: that I don't And they didn't think it's an Yeah,

1015
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: they didn't like that. And they just like the Seahawks fans.

1016
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: They do have a great twitter um presence. They're smart,

1017
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: they're weird um, but they don't like to hear that.

1018
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: Any other fan base could also have, like a smart,

1019
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: weird fans base. They they want to feel special and

1020
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: once you say like, okay, I'm not really feeling them

1021
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: as a Super Bowl team this year, then then they

1022
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: come out market down June three one, Greg Rosenthal officially

1023
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: became fatigued with Seahawks and Seahawks Twitter keep the twelves weird.

1024
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: They should read um anybody else? Before we close out

1025
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: this segment, which by the way, has a title, and

1026
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: that title is projected starters. It's the rule of fours.

1027
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Most people think three times you do it. That's the

1028
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: peak comedic efficiency. Four five, six. I will say, um,

1029
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, which you guys had love to discuss many

1030
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: ties in this podcast. In the past, she's in physical

1031
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: therapy school and last semester, uh, she had to dissect

1032
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: a cadaver, which meant that she was studying a lot

1033
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: of images of like you know, for Malde high preserved

1034
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: dead humans and their various tissues. And every time I

1035
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: hear that drop, I just think about looking over my

1036
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: shoulder at her computer screen and seeing nerves and hearts

1037
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: and brains and always grew some stuff. Was it a

1038
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: man or a woman that she had to cut open

1039
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: and explore? It was a man, and I'll never forget

1040
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: She came home one day and said, today I shaved

1041
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: the back fat off of a man. Oh question, and

1042
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: it is likes you know, it was like it was

1043
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: amazing and also the least surprising part of this pet.

1044
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: That's where Mark's mind went immediately. And if it is

1045
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: a woman, do you know where I can go to

1046
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: get one? No? I just you know there there are

1047
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: some follow up questions, but that's for one of your

1048
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: other podcast, Nick, but maybe you could send some questions in.

1049
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: I can't think of a title to loop in Dissection

1050
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: of Cadavers, but we'll get there. I have one last one,

1051
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: and it's the Raiders um and their secondary, just because

1052
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily much different on paper. But my big

1053
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: question Marcus Damon Arnett. You know, you spend a high

1054
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: pick on him, and he was a non factor last year.

1055
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: He dealt with injuries, and but after Mike Mayock spent

1056
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: the offseason trashing their defense, and then they, you know,

1057
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: put some effort toward it. They drafted safety Travon Merrigg.

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: I just I need to see. I don't know what

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00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: to expect from this group. I mean, it's not necessarily

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00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: that I don't know who is projected to be the starters,

1061
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: but I have no idea what they're gonna get, um,

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00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: other than that Jonathan Abraham is going to be in

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: the box more and he already plays like a psychopath,

1064
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: so we might as well, uh, you know, enjoy him

1065
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: being around the ball more. I mean, he might have

1066
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: been the biggest problem in the defense. Full of them,

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00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought them up, just because I kind

1068
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: of forgot about Casey Hayward. They signed Casey Hayward. He

1069
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: might be their slack guy. But I I mentioned, uh,

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00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm probably basing this on like too small of a

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00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: sample size and everything. But when I watched Damon Arnette

1072
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: last year, I thought he looked pretty good. I know

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00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: he did not test out well and he gave up

1074
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: some big plays, but him and Trayvon Mullen, like I thought,

1075
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: they have shown some things. And young cornerbacks are It's tough, man.

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00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: It is tough to come into the NFL as a

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00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: young cornerback. And I think both of them actually have

1078
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: flashed a lot. Like people think they're busts, and I

1079
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: thought both of them have shown something. So it wouldn't

1080
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: shock me if those two guys improved. Yeah, definitely like

1081
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: Mullins more than our net. But I mean Mullins has

1082
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more of of you know, sample size

1083
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: so far. So it's disgust Bradley to put it all together.

1084
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. Alright, good stuff and check it

1085
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: out NFL dot Com slash projected starters. It's kind of

1086
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: pretty much ever in content you could read it now

1087
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: projected starters that you could read it now, you could

1088
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: read it a month from now, and you'll kind of

1089
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: be up to date. But I told Ali, I'm done

1090
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: until the season. This works as a season preview I

1091
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: didn't tell Ali. I'm just hiding. I am unreachable. I

1092
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: have more content to get to Ali today. As the

1093
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: rule of fives. As promised on Tuesday, we asked for

1094
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: were some reviews and stars over on iTunes. Checked it out,

1095
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: went over to the iTunes. Got a decent amount. I

1096
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you, Greg, you appealed to the audience.

1097
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: They didn't. We gotta. We got a nice handful, but

1098
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: I was hoping for many, because again, it's the only

1099
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: thing we ask for. Well, that's maybe, it's it's not

1100
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: maybe again, five stars, five stars, leave review that's all

1101
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: we ask. All right, let's get into it. This one

1102
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: from this from c l GO three. I love the hosts,

1103
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: not enough cults five stars. Apparently the way for a

1104
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: small market team to make the potty each week is

1105
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: to sign Teddy Bridgewater. That said, a great podcast even

1106
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: in the off season. Up next, Mark Sessler, five stars.

1107
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: I enjoy Marx Brown's fandom with and literacy. Nice comment there,

1108
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Mark oh I wrote that you think Eric Stabe Mark

1109
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: Mark's brother Eric Seer, Zach Attack Curry, longtime listener, first

1110
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: time reviewer. The NFL is lucky to have these heroes

1111
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: making podcast for them when they could easily break off

1112
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: on their own and bankroll the best independent NFL podcast

1113
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: network via Patreon, Hey the Heroes, Slammer, are you listening?

1114
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: Player up next? Miss my Uncle Charles, Miss my Uncle Charles.

1115
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: Just here for the Bone Thugs talk. People loved that.

1116
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't missed. Opportunity shook without you on the show.

1117
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: You you know, the guys make jokes that I like wrap,

1118
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: you like rap even more, and you are Clevelander. So

1119
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: Bone Thugs if the floor is yours, if you have

1120
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: anything to say about them, Um, well, I will say this,

1121
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: and this is gonna date myself, but Bone Thugs was

1122
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: hot when I was like a kid. I know that.

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00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: But I think you maybe listened to him. Of course, absolutely, um,

1124
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt about it. Not so much in

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00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but they're definitely in the

1126
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: in the rotation every once in a while. Blukewarm. By

1127
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: the way, there is great. There's no Greg, there's no

1128
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of joshing you about your rap enjoyment. It's just

1129
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: simply pointed out on the show. Greg likes rap respectual.

1130
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: I like some of it too, not at your level.

1131
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: I like, like you know, lesbian indie rock too, but

1132
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't get its own at all. Pop It doesn't,

1133
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: and maybe it should all right. Up Next favorite podcast

1134
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: ever from MH Class of eighty three June and I

1135
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: listened to a fair amount of podcasts, mostly football, Great

1136
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: NFL Insight with just the right levity. The different personalities

1137
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: bounce off each other perfectly. Erica, Ricky jump in here.

1138
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: Erica has the finishing touch, occasionally bringing them all back

1139
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: to earth without any damper on the amusement. Go Erica.

1140
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: I hope this podcast carries on just as it is

1141
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: for my lifetime. If the universe would be so kind,

1142
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: all the best for he in heart, all of you. Wow,

1143
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: that was so nice. That was very nice. Why do

1144
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: we not assume that Erica wrote that when you're immediately

1145
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: suggesting that a pro mark one was written by myself?

1146
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: Up Next, Smart with NFL Comma Woke Ideology two stars

1147
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: out of five Smart NFL analysts. If you brush off

1148
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: the woke rhetoric they spew when they veer away from sports,

1149
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: I can't stomach the ignorance on real world matters. No

1150
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: one cares about your opinions on vaccines. And politics. You're

1151
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: losing listeners because of it. Wake up, guys, Trump voters

1152
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: and people who don't want to get vaccinated are in

1153
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: every room you walk in. Maybe time to show them

1154
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: a little respect, all caps by, So just being in

1155
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: a room that you walk in is worth they ever respect.

1156
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: Now if you even if you just use the term oke,

1157
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't, we don't need you. That's he jumped out

1158
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: just in time. You know, today's episode touched on things

1159
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: he finds unpleasant. So I was gonna say he definitely

1160
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: tuned out about the first ten minutes. Let Mark Cook

1161
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: from VATTA all right, I listened to this podcast more

1162
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: than I watched the NFL. I mean, there's not a

1163
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: better selling point for for our show. And finally, best

1164
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: podcast around parentheticals in the tone of Dan my favorite

1165
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: podcast by far, and in Quarantine I dabbled in many.

1166
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: I listened to each episode as soon as I can

1167
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: on a day. It comes out love everything you do.

1168
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: I recently lost a close friend, and your openness and

1169
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: friendship talking about Chris really helps me through it. I

1170
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: would call him West, but that seems like a nickname

1171
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: you have to earn. I'm just a lowly listener. That

1172
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: is not true. West was down to be called West

1173
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: by anyone. I don't want to lessen my compliment with

1174
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: an NFL question. I'd have some, but I'd rather just

1175
01:01:54,680 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: leave a great review. Oh that's very nice, Williams. Thank

1176
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: you Williams, and you understood it. These were good reviews.

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01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: I assumed you maybe maybe picked the best of them,

1178
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: so they were even more. But good job. I think

1179
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: I think we can do better, maybe come back strong again.

1180
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: We'll do it again some other time. Yeah, that's that.

1181
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: We call for more reviews. Send us uh your reviews

1182
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: and we will read them on the air potentially. All right, shure. Oh,

1183
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye, Ricky, something very exciting, speaking of

1184
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: vanity projects, you have something to share. Yes, So the

1185
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: broadcast my podcast that I do with Emma got signed

1186
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: by All Things Comedy. So we're gonna be on the

1187
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: A t C network. Really excited. So, um, if the

1188
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: A t N listeners want to do me a little

1189
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: favor and go over there and subscribe or check out

1190
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: an episode. There's episodes, actually not Nick, but everyone else

1191
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: in here that you guys have your own episodes and

1192
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: they're great. We wrote a funny scrap to where Mark

1193
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: red basically him going crazy and getting a huge tattoo

1194
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield after they win the super Bowl. So

1195
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: a little foreshadowing about what life would be like. Um,

1196
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: I think it's great. But yeah, I'm excited. Congratulates. So

1197
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: you're now being you're being paid now for for the show? Well, yeah,

1198
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: ad sales potentially any retroactive kicks to the people that

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: I think the you know between the lines there. Yeah.

1200
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: Well but yeah, Mark, if you go, you know, pump

1201
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: up your own episode, I can work something out for you.

1202
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: Then when the Browns do win the super Bowl, we

1203
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: should like have a listening party to that episode. Compare

1204
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: it with reality. It'll be it'll be fun, good, really excited.

1205
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: Check out the broadcast. Check out j r VP. I

1206
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: have a throwback podcast. My buddy Bob would do the

1207
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: show with him kills me. He absolutely destroys for never

1208
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: promoting the show, and I say, listen, I'd like to

1209
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: keep my world separate whenever possible. But since everyone else

1210
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: is uh getting their plugs in, and I will mention

1211
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: it and I'll make sure he knows that I did,

1212
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: and the listeners will as well. I imagine. Well, let's

1213
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: give Bob Show a pop too, because my kids were

1214
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: literally I'm not exaggerating, counting down the days before Lego

1215
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: Masters came back. And first, you know, we had that DVRD.

1216
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: Bob's working on Lego Masters. We had a DVRD and

1217
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: first thing, you know, get home from school. That's it's

1218
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: it's it's a total hit. And I think I like

1219
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: that Bob is a producer on the show and he

1220
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: works very closely with Will Arnette, the host. I just

1221
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: I can't share any of the stories that I've heard,

1222
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: but it's it's very interesting to learn what goes on

1223
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: inside the Hollywood machine with someone on the edges of

1224
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: the Illuminati. Now you want to think Arnette was on

1225
01:04:54,560 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: the edges, but he's there exclusive club. Whoa. That was insane?

1226
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 1: What did I oversell it? It's just, you know, it's

1227
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: you get a good peek into the show business world.

1228
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: That's I mean, yeah, I was kind of wondering, like

1229
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: the photos of him with all the legos behind, I'm like,

1230
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: how did you get that? You know, you gotta do

1231
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: some bartering behind the scenes, you know, to make that happen,

1232
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: which I any Illuminati people out there I'm willing to

1233
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: have a conversation. Oh Ricky, this is not a good

1234
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: look for you, but you'll give up anything to be

1235
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: inside the circle. Yeah, your quest for fame is just endless,

1236
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: it is, and it's leaving a path of destruction in

1237
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: his wake. Like what do I have to do to

1238
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: get a yacht? Like it could have been that bad?

1239
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: Just ask dad? Um, alright, yes, check out Ricky's show

1240
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: the broadcast. Hey you and Nick Chook, you've done it again.

1241
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: You said it all and um thank you for joining

1242
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: us today and look forward to having you on again

1243
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: on the show again soon and of course during the

1244
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: regular season as well. Yeah, certainly love being on, love

1245
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: being around you guys, even though you know we're remotely,

1246
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, not quite hanging out in l A. But

1247
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's it's it's been a blast as always.

1248
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: The thanks, Yeah, thank you, Choky. All right, this is

1249
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: Dan hands Is signing off for the Quiet Storm, the

1250
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: Old Boss, the Unshookable Nick Shook. What I think I

1251
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: had like a really bad nickname that everyone hated. No,

1252
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting it, damn it. It was something inappropriate like

1253
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: the pipe. The pipe, the pipe. The pipe did not

1254
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: catch trying to get this pipe, Ricky Hollywood. Check out

1255
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: the around the NFL broadcast Friday on the network right

1256
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: after Good Morning Football. Until then, heed the call.