WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Al Sharpton Talks National Action Network, Trump, Eric Adams, Operation Breadbasket, Eulogies +More 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.480 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:08.840 Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.000 the guy. We are the Breakfast Club Law and Rosa 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:12.719 filling in for Jesse. We got a special guest in 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.840 the building, indeed, Reverend al Sharp and welcome back, Raf. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:17.400 Thank you glad to be here. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:18.200 How you feeling. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:19.720 I'm good, I'm real good. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.520 You got to work out in this morning. You know, 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.160 every morning sevens got to get up and do it. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.000 Have you win the last time you missed one about 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:28.760 maybe seven years ago. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.000 Really, I don't care where I am in the world, 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.479 like you and hours in South Africa together and I 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.160 got up every day and did my work. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:36.000 Absolutely. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.879 The last time I seen you rever now we were 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.199 coming back from DC. We want to play together. This 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:47.400 is right after Kamala Harris lost. Uh very sad, very upsetting. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.879 What do you think about the new presidency and what 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.479 he's doing and all the things that that is affecting 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:53.960 our communities. What's your thoughts? 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.680 I mean, I think that first of all, the only 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.960 surprise I have is that everybody's surprised. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.360 He said he was going to do everything he's doing. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:09.120 Tarriffs that he was coming after a DEI diversity, equity 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.560 and inclusion. He said that he was going to go 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:17.200 after his enemies or those that he felt were. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.880 Opposed to him. So I don't know what the shock is. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.640 And I don't understand where all of the people that 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.679 were saying that they didn't see the difference between Trump 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.440 and the Democrats, how they have gotten longitis now and 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.760 have not come back out and said because none of 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.920 what he's doing, what the Democrats doing now, nobody has 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.240 been more challenging than the Democrats than I have all 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.760 my life. But you can't act like that was the 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:46.520 same thing. He has done a direct affront on black 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:51.040 people and working people and no apologies. I mean, when 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:56.760 you take down black servicemen's pitches on the Department of 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:02.960 Defense's website, including Jack Robinson and Medgevers, you can't be 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:07.400 more intentionally offensive than that. So I think that the 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.920 bad side is what he's doing. The good size is 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.040 I think it's gonna I think it's gonna wake a 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.360 lot of us up. Sometimes we need something to happen 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.560 for us to understand what is really happening. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.280 Well, when you're dealing with point disenfranchised, point disenfranchised people. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:24.200 How do you tell. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.320 Them that, you know, if they're already living in hell, 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:27.400 how do you tell them things are going to. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.359 Get hotter because they get hotter. I mean, but you're 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.079 already in hell. But you in hell. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.720 But it's the heat is up in hell, and the 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:42.160 fact is we in hell. Economically, Trump is now saying 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.440 I'm gonna make it worse. I'm going to use Social 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:48.600 Security money, Medicare money. You had that in hell, I'm 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.840 gonna use that to balance the budget and pay for 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.360 my billionaires to get a tax cut. So when we 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.880 tell ourselves it can't get worse, it can't get worse. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.720 When Trump say I'm gonna bring back style up in first, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.920 which we all nash actionally was part of helping get done, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.240 that means you're gonna get thrown up against the wall again. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.040 When Trump says that I'm gonna deal with getting rid 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.080 of all of these sentencing rules that can help you 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.000 get out of jail. So there's a big difference in 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:20.040 doing two years and doing twenty. So, yeah, you in hell, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.440 and you are now the fires in hell is being 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:26.040 turned up. And to tell yourself to try to rationalize 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.880 your inactivity does not make you smart, because a lot 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.120 of brothers and sisters saying that to me, well, we're 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.240 doing bad anyway, that's trying to rationalize that you were 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.920 not trying to do better. To say that a man 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:44.000 with thirty four felony convictions found guilty of sexual harassment 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.800 is better than a woman who did everything right, lawyer, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.720 attorney general, senator went to Howard, and to give that 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.080 example to your kids that no, I'll go to felon 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.600 because he got swagger is to make us appear like 0:03:58.600 --> 0:03:59.360 we're not serious. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.160 I don't think that's comparison though. And the reason I 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.960 say that is because I don't think the vice president. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.920 You know, of course she didn't run a perfect campaign. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:05.400 Who does. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.400 But I think that she suffered from being a part 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.440 of the Democratic brand as opposed to her. It wasn't 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.360 the fact that they chose the Donald Trump over her, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.320 they chose Donald Trump over Democrats. Because I feel like 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.320 it was the same thing in twenty twenty you had 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.040 to fight to convince people to vote for Joe Biden. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:20.880 It was definitely the same thing in twenty sixteen you 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.080 had to fight people to convince for Hillary Clinton. The 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.240 only the last time Democrats have been cool in the 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.120 eyes of the people that have been oweight and O twelve. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.360 But then why did Biden when the reason I don't 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:30.799 accept that Biden won. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.640 A series of extraordinary circumstances. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.839 I mean George Covid. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.960 You don't think it was extraordinary? No, no, no, George 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.160 Floyd and COVID happened. Yeah, and so. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.720 Did thirty four felaty. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.520 We saw that this is the only time we seen 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.440 American history man stand up in court having to defend 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:55.000 himself and attacking black prosecutors. He went after Alvin Bragg, 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.919 he went after Tis James. And the fact is that 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.200 that Donald Trump was the president when George Floyd happened. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.360 I did George Floyd's funerals led the big margin. We 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.440 could not get a peep out of the White House. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.960 So that don't wash with me when you're standing there 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.080 saying this man was president during COVID and told y'all 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.880 to drink bleach, was president when George Floyd and never 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.919 opened his mouth other than one time walked across the 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.120 street from the White House to the church and held 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.400 the Bible upside down and reprimanded the protesters. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.480 We all got amnesia in two years. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.960 That's what happened, though. Yeah, for a lot of people, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.560 and you've been doing this work for a really long time. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.279 I'm interested because it does feel like that's what happened. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:39.960 But how do you get people as emotionally charged as 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.599 you were about it? Because people were emotionally charged when 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.039 George Floyd was killed and when those different things were happening, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.279 which I think led to Biden, but they didn't care 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:48.240 about the thirty four charges. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.160 So how do you change that? 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.280 I think the way you change it is you got 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.160 to be able to get people to understand. The only 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.359 way you're going to be able to make changes, you 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.320 have to sustain a movement. You know, I talk all 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.560 the time about out there are those of us that 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.160 have tried to build organizations to sustain and then you 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.520 get those that are like flash, and you need them 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.839 both because you need the flash to get the fire, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.640 But then that doesn't sustain it. I can tell you 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.040 every you saving there a long time. I can just 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.479 go back last twelve years. We saw groups after Trey 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.560 Von then they die out, and we saw groups after 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.720 Michael Browns Ferguson die out. Then we see groups on 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.080 and on and all the way to George Floyd. That's 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.000 why you need groups that's gonna sustain itself, whether it 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.640 be on outside of civil rights or whether it be 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.920 the nation that's gonna be there that when it's smoke clear, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.320 because the right wing has that. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:40.200 Don't forget. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.200 They went from Tea Party to Birtherrism to Donald Trump. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.800 So they have their flash guys, but their buildings two 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.919 and it led to Trump and it's not even generational. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.760 That's the other copy. I was talking to a guy 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.839 the other night. We're getting ready to find Nash Action 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.240 that we're convention and he's coming, and he said, I 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.680 used to not understand y'all, but you know, come next generation, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:02.880 and I want to do this, that and the other. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.600 But I'm gonna work with you all. I said, let 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.279 me ask you them. How old are you? He said, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.320 I'm forty three. I said, well, you ain't that young. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.840 I said, you do realize Vice President jd Vance is 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.720 younger than you. He said, word, I said, Stephen Miller, 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.720 the architect of the Project twenty twenty five, it's thirty 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.120 seven years old. This ain't about a generation, It's about 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.559 an agenda. Those young guys on the right were smart 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.600 enough to take a seventy eight year old man and 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.720 eat Big Max in the middle of the night and 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.239 sit on the toilet tweeting and make him president to get. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.080 Their agenda through. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.240 They divide us on whether you're Christian, Muslim, young. Oh, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.800 we got to stop all that and look at what 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.160 made them victorious. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.080 There was no separation between them. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.960 They are Christian Church, they're radicals, they're young, they're Oh 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.400 that's what put Donald Trump back in the way. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.240 The Democrats project twenty twenty five. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.040 That's a good question. Why they don't have a project 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.040 twenty twenty eight. I didn't have a project. They don't 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.760 have a project twenty twenty. We did. We did George Floyd, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:04.360 they didn't. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.480 I keep reminding people the Democratic Party didn't lead the 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.160 Civil rights movement. The Civil rights movement challenged the Democratic Party. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.640 Lyndon Johnson and John Kennedy did with King and Farmer 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.000 and Paniew Hamer made them do. And when we are 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.880 dependent on others to do for us, well, we ought 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.320 to be leading the charge for ourselves. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:24.680 Were always fooling ourselves. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.400 Yeah, you know, listen, there's a lot of reasons I 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.720 don't believe in the Democratic Party anymore. But you know, 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.520 twenty twenty, they won the election, they were in the 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.839 White House for four years, and that still didn't stop 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.640 what we're seeing now. So how can we have faith 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.040 in them to do anything? And I know you're saying, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.200 you know, you know, we can't depend on them, but 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.360 you tell us to vote for them so they can 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.880 go in there and stop these things from happening. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.920 But they didn't. They didn't stop the fascists from writing. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.400 I think that we vote for them as the alternative 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.160 to those that are openly gonna do what the Trump 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:52.560 is doing. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.599 Now. Nobody gonna say that they're the perfection. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.400 But if I'm drowning in the water, if a guy 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.920 gonna bring me up two inches rather than bring me 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.760 all the way out, the other guy's holding my leg 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.120 bringing me down, I'm gonna. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.640 Go with the two inches. But we did that. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.400 Nothing or in twenty twenty. We know we made some 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:15.480 advancements in those four years. We were able to stop stopping. First, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.960 we was able to deal with saving some healthcare. We 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.520 were able to deal with infrastructure development where Black's got 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:22.160 some contracts. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.200 We got some things done, But then it reverts back. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.920 If you look at history, it is always one step 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:33.400 forward and one back. After slavery, we had twelve years 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.000 of reconstruction, then fifty years of Jim Crow. So if 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.720 we don't understand that they're gonna fight back, I think 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.120 the problem is a lot of us relax and say 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.200 we won now we there now. No, the fight is 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.320 just as much important when you in as when you're trying. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:49.480 To get in. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.120 So where do we go from now? You know, we 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.840 look at all the things that Trump is doing. Right, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.880 he said he's gonna possibly run a third or fourth term. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:55.800 You never have to vote again. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.160 Yeah, well that's taught is well. First of all, to 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.520 get a third t he's had to change the constitution. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.679 You've got to get two thirds of the Senate to 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.120 vote for two thirds of the House, and then two 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:08.959 thirds of the states to rectify that. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:09.720 That ain't gonna happen. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.480 So but he what he's doing is his boys got 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:19.079 caught on that signal uh out on that signal lap 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.280 And he's trying to change the conversation. He's a master 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.520 that he knows how we'll all talk about it. He's 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.480 gonna run again. Rather than talk about how the Vice president's, 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.600 secretary of Defense, secretary of State, and all of them 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.440 were on an app talking about classified stuff of attacking 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.400 the building, and yeomen and Trump' sitt up to how 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:39.240 I changed the conversation. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.920 I'm gonna throw out there. He's only been in three months. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.640 Why would he we even be talking about what he's 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.000 gonna do in four years? And Biden was too old, 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.160 We said, right, Trump will. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.840 Be eighty two years old in four years. I mean, 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.880 as crazy as he is. And now can you imagine 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.280 what he's gonna be like at eighty. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.640 Two years old, trying to convince two thirds of the 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.520 state to bring him back in. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.600 It's all of the his in his mind. It's a 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.840 decoy to try to get away from the issues right 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.640 now because they can't rationally. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.720 This is the first time you see and in red 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.280 states they have an election in Wisconsin toing in Florida 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.640 where they are fighting to win those elections because even 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.000 whites are now going to their town hall meeting saying, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.360 wait a minute, you messing with my social security, Wait 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.920 a minute, you messing with my medicare. Republican congressman can't 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.720 hold town hall meetings, so he's got to try to 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.680 change the conversation, make it something else. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:32.640 And he's good at that. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.840 There's no doubt in my mind that Republicans are gonna 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.720 fumble the ball. You already see it happening now, right, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.240 you know, based off what you just said about what's 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.880 happening in the town halls. You know, on a larger level, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:41.760 you see what's going on at. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.160 The stock market, all of that type of stuff. 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.920 But even when they fumble, I don't think Democrats have 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.080 the team to recover the ball. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.840 Now there, you and I agree. I think the problem 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.640 is that you got the wrong team players. You cannot 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.719 You cannot play a game if you're not going to 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.000 play the game. And if you they're afraid of Trump 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.719 is gonna tweet, Trump's gonna do this, don't get in 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.120 the ring if you're afraid to get hit. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:04.680 I agree. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.440 You got to throw a blow and expect the blow 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.480 to come back. And that's what I've dealt with all 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.280 my I assume they're gonna come and throw blows in 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.280 because I'm throwing blows that the people say to me 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.439 all the time, Redmud, how do you take it? Cause 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.400 I expected, I mean, do I think I'm gonna swing 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.720 at them and call them bigots and talk about what 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.120 they're doing to us, and they're not gonna swing back. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.079 I think a lot of us act like the folks 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.520 that we're talking about a wicked ain't really wicked. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.040 They are really wicked, and they're gonna try to do 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:32.800 wicked stuff. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.439 I feel like you should primary everybody in a democratic 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.200 Democratic party who's not willing to fight and the leadership 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.120 like the Chucks Hume was, the keeen Jeffers. If y'all 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.280 not willing to fight, we should be calling for them 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:44.880 to step. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.559 Down to But the only way you can run in 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.080 the primary is you got to be in the party. 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.360 If you're not registered in the party, you can't primary. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.200 So I think that I agree with primary, and I 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.600 agree that a lot of these people need to be challenged. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.960 But you've got to build up a base to challenge them. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.680 And that's why I talk about the temporary folks. You 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.360 need them for flash, but you need your people that 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.040 are gonna be there in and out so they can 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.360 build some permanent structure. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.440 The nigga's crazy that you know, you look at Trump 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.200 right like them love him, hate him whatever. The fact 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.560 that he gets in office and he actually shows the 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.280 power that we thought other president should have had, especially Democrats, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.839 like I mean, the first day he gets on stage, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.240 he gets a pending, he signing executive orders left and right. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.800 I mean, his guys that's getting that has twenty years 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.040 and just imprisoned ten years in prison parties them immediately. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.640 And then you look at some of our democratic presidents 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.080 and you'd be like, man, they could have helped so 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.760 many people for good. It just never did, just was 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.120 cowardly and didn't. So how does that give the people confidence? 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:39.760 It doesn't. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.960 And that's why guys like me that would come to 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.640 the Democrats and ask them to pardon people and didn't 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.600 can be disappointed and say I went to Biden and 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.680 asks for certain partons that we couldn't get. Pardon the Sun, 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.320 but I couldn't get him the part in Jesse Jackson's 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.959 son and who should have been parton, and the others 0:13:59.120 --> 0:13:59.920 we went there. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:01.079 So how does that make you feel? 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.160 As much as you feel like I'm not. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.679 Getting everything I want, but I'm certainly not going to 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.040 go on the other side. So we need to then 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.040 put the right kind of leadership there. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:10.559 You don't. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.640 You don't if you're on a team. If the quarterback 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.439 or the or the tacklers can't work, you get better 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.560 team players. You don't join the other team. So that's 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.800 what I'm saying. There's a difference in the frustration some 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.920 of us are showing and some of you expressed, and 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.680 then those that went and joined the other team, they 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.040 went and supported Trump like that was an alternative. The 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.320 alternative to having a head cold is not suicide. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.760 I was going to say, you decided whether you back 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.240 it away from Eric Adams. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.160 Adams, how do I do what? Look at mayor Eric Adams. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.320 Look Eric, and I go away. When I started the 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.480 National Action Network, he was one of the founders. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:50.760 Where he is now. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.720 I think that he has made some positions that I 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.800 disagree with, and I've told him that whether he made 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.080 a deal with Trump or not, I don't know, but 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.840 I know that there's some things in policing and all 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.880 we disagree some things that we agree with. But I 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.240 think that he's in a very peculiar political position. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.720 I don't know how he can get re elected. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.200 I was gonna say so because before the conversation is 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.440 that you are having a conversation about whether you're going 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.840 to back him as mayor or not again, so you 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:20.960 have made a decision not to. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.000 I don't know that he's running yet, as he said 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:24.680 he's running. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.320 He hasn't said. He has to Thursday to say if 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:27.000 he's running again. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:28.760 But if he does, say right now, do you know 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:29.280 what you would do? 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:35.480 Night, I'll really call you for that because I think 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.960 for me, I'm looking I'm looking at it because I 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.720 definitely will. I'm looking at it because you've been so 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.480 vocal about him and now you're vocally like. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:43.600 I don't know what I'm going to do. What do 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:44.600 you want him to do? 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:45.360 Like? What do you expect? 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.160 You want to hear him to continue to fight for 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.840 the things that I supported them are, like the right 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.040 kind of policing in our community, like being fair to 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.520 people that are getting cut out of jobs in the 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.720 city of New York life, standing up to Trump on 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.600 a lot of this stuff that he is agreeing with 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.400 Trump on. I do not agree that we should put 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.960 the Haitians and people of color in a category that 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.200 they can be picked up by ice just because of 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:14.920 what they look like. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.080 That is racial profiling. I wanted to do those. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.840 Things as a civil rights leader. Do you feel like 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.160 you should work with this administration on anything with the 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.600 president trumpets. I don't think that I have that option. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.640 Trump has made it clear he's not gonna work with 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.960 civil Rightley. He tweets at least once a month against 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.160 me by name, because I. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.880 Fought him when he was here Central Point five. We 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.520 fought him with everybody thought they were guilty. Them boys 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.720 went to jail, and two of them might My rallies 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.120 every week now because we support her. So I don't 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.200 think that the are areas that he and I could 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.960 ever work together. But even though he tried to play democrat, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.760 he used to come to national Action there were convention twice. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.720 He can't. But there are some that can work with him. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.640 I guess to do that, but they need to show 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:07.399 us the result of the work. You remember, both of you. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.560 You remember when I had access to Obama, I could 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.320 come out and say, well, I got Obama to do 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.240 this on that. I've not seen any black come out 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.120 and say I got Trump to do anything. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.760 In fact, the last black I saw come out of 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:20.639 there was Alma. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.560 Rosa, who said he's a racist. We don't even have 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.120 an Ama Rosa in the White House. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.560 Now, do you feel like there's enough resistance on the street. No, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:29.320 I do not. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.200 I think that the resistance on the street when you 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.359 see one of the things we're talking about is doing 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.000 a boycott against a single company and not talking about 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.480 we're gonna do it ten days, thirty. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.040 You boycott. I grew up in Operation Breadback. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.000 You boycott till you break them, or you make them 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.240