1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club Law and Rosa 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: filling in for Jesse. We got a special guest in 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: the building, indeed, Reverend al Sharp and welcome back, Raf. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Thank you glad to be here. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: How you feeling. 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm real good. 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: You got to work out in this morning. You know, 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: every morning sevens got to get up and do it. 11 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Have you win the last time you missed one about 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: maybe seven years ago. 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: Really, I don't care where I am in the world, 14 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: like you and hours in South Africa together and I 15 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: got up every day and did my work. 16 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 17 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: The last time I seen you rever now we were 18 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: coming back from DC. We want to play together. This 19 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: is right after Kamala Harris lost. Uh very sad, very upsetting. 20 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: What do you think about the new presidency and what 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: he's doing and all the things that that is affecting 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: our communities. What's your thoughts? 23 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that first of all, the only 24 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: surprise I have is that everybody's surprised. 25 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: He said he was going to do everything he's doing. 26 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: Tarriffs that he was coming after a DEI diversity, equity 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: and inclusion. He said that he was going to go 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: after his enemies or those that he felt were. 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Opposed to him. So I don't know what the shock is. 30 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: And I don't understand where all of the people that 31 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: were saying that they didn't see the difference between Trump 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: and the Democrats, how they have gotten longitis now and 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: have not come back out and said because none of 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: what he's doing, what the Democrats doing now, nobody has 35 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: been more challenging than the Democrats than I have all 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: my life. But you can't act like that was the 37 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: same thing. He has done a direct affront on black 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: people and working people and no apologies. I mean, when 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: you take down black servicemen's pitches on the Department of 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: Defense's website, including Jack Robinson and Medgevers, you can't be 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: more intentionally offensive than that. So I think that the 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: bad side is what he's doing. The good size is 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna I think it's gonna wake a 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: lot of us up. Sometimes we need something to happen 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: for us to understand what is really happening. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: Well, when you're dealing with point disenfranchised, point disenfranchised people. 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: How do you tell. 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: Them that, you know, if they're already living in hell, 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: how do you tell them things are going to. 50 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: Get hotter because they get hotter. I mean, but you're 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: already in hell. But you in hell. 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: But it's the heat is up in hell, and the 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: fact is we in hell. Economically, Trump is now saying 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it worse. I'm going to use Social 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: Security money, Medicare money. You had that in hell, I'm 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: gonna use that to balance the budget and pay for 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: my billionaires to get a tax cut. So when we 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: tell ourselves it can't get worse, it can't get worse. 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: When Trump say I'm gonna bring back style up in first, 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: which we all nash actionally was part of helping get done, 61 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: that means you're gonna get thrown up against the wall again. 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: When Trump says that I'm gonna deal with getting rid 63 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: of all of these sentencing rules that can help you 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: get out of jail. So there's a big difference in 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: doing two years and doing twenty. So, yeah, you in hell, 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: and you are now the fires in hell is being 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: turned up. And to tell yourself to try to rationalize 68 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: your inactivity does not make you smart, because a lot 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: of brothers and sisters saying that to me, well, we're 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: doing bad anyway, that's trying to rationalize that you were 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: not trying to do better. To say that a man 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: with thirty four felony convictions found guilty of sexual harassment 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: is better than a woman who did everything right, lawyer, 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: attorney general, senator went to Howard, and to give that 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: example to your kids that no, I'll go to felon 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: because he got swagger is to make us appear like 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: we're not serious. 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: I don't think that's comparison though. And the reason I 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: say that is because I don't think the vice president. 80 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: You know, of course she didn't run a perfect campaign. 81 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Who does. 82 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: But I think that she suffered from being a part 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: of the Democratic brand as opposed to her. It wasn't 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: the fact that they chose the Donald Trump over her, 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: they chose Donald Trump over Democrats. Because I feel like 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: it was the same thing in twenty twenty you had 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: to fight to convince people to vote for Joe Biden. 88 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: It was definitely the same thing in twenty sixteen you 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: had to fight people to convince for Hillary Clinton. The 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: only the last time Democrats have been cool in the 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: eyes of the people that have been oweight and O twelve. 92 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: But then why did Biden when the reason I don't 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 3: accept that Biden won. 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: A series of extraordinary circumstances. 95 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: I mean George Covid. 96 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: You don't think it was extraordinary? No, no, no, George 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: Floyd and COVID happened. Yeah, and so. 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: Did thirty four felaty. 99 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: We saw that this is the only time we seen 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: American history man stand up in court having to defend 101 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: himself and attacking black prosecutors. He went after Alvin Bragg, 102 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: he went after Tis James. And the fact is that 103 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump was the president when George Floyd happened. 104 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: I did George Floyd's funerals led the big margin. We 105 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: could not get a peep out of the White House. 106 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: So that don't wash with me when you're standing there 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: saying this man was president during COVID and told y'all 108 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: to drink bleach, was president when George Floyd and never 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: opened his mouth other than one time walked across the 110 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: street from the White House to the church and held 111 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: the Bible upside down and reprimanded the protesters. 112 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: We all got amnesia in two years. 113 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: That's what happened, though. Yeah, for a lot of people, 114 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 5: and you've been doing this work for a really long time. 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 5: I'm interested because it does feel like that's what happened. 116 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: But how do you get people as emotionally charged as 117 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 5: you were about it? Because people were emotionally charged when 118 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 5: George Floyd was killed and when those different things were happening, 119 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 5: which I think led to Biden, but they didn't care 120 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: about the thirty four charges. 121 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 6: So how do you change that? 122 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: I think the way you change it is you got 123 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: to be able to get people to understand. The only 124 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 3: way you're going to be able to make changes, you 125 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: have to sustain a movement. You know, I talk all 126 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: the time about out there are those of us that 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: have tried to build organizations to sustain and then you 128 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: get those that are like flash, and you need them 129 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: both because you need the flash to get the fire, 130 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: But then that doesn't sustain it. I can tell you 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: every you saving there a long time. I can just 132 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 3: go back last twelve years. We saw groups after Trey 133 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: Von then they die out, and we saw groups after 134 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: Michael Browns Ferguson die out. Then we see groups on 135 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: and on and all the way to George Floyd. That's 136 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: why you need groups that's gonna sustain itself, whether it 137 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: be on outside of civil rights or whether it be 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: the nation that's gonna be there that when it's smoke clear, 139 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: because the right wing has that. 140 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Don't forget. 141 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: They went from Tea Party to Birtherrism to Donald Trump. 142 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: So they have their flash guys, but their buildings two 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: and it led to Trump and it's not even generational. 144 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: That's the other copy. I was talking to a guy 145 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: the other night. We're getting ready to find Nash Action 146 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: that we're convention and he's coming, and he said, I 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: used to not understand y'all, but you know, come next generation, 148 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: and I want to do this, that and the other. 149 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna work with you all. I said, let 150 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: me ask you them. How old are you? He said, 151 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: I'm forty three. I said, well, you ain't that young. 152 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: I said, you do realize Vice President jd Vance is 153 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: younger than you. He said, word, I said, Stephen Miller, 154 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: the architect of the Project twenty twenty five, it's thirty 155 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: seven years old. This ain't about a generation, It's about 156 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 3: an agenda. Those young guys on the right were smart 157 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: enough to take a seventy eight year old man and 158 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: eat Big Max in the middle of the night and 159 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 3: sit on the toilet tweeting and make him president to get. 160 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Their agenda through. 161 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: They divide us on whether you're Christian, Muslim, young. Oh, 162 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: we got to stop all that and look at what 163 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: made them victorious. 164 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: There was no separation between them. 165 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: They are Christian Church, they're radicals, they're young, they're Oh 166 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: that's what put Donald Trump back in the way. 167 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: The Democrats project twenty twenty five. 168 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Why they don't have a project 169 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. I didn't have a project. They don't 170 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: have a project twenty twenty. We did. We did George Floyd, 171 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: they didn't. 172 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: I keep reminding people the Democratic Party didn't lead the 173 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: Civil rights movement. The Civil rights movement challenged the Democratic Party. 174 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: Lyndon Johnson and John Kennedy did with King and Farmer 175 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: and Paniew Hamer made them do. And when we are 176 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: dependent on others to do for us, well, we ought 177 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: to be leading the charge for ourselves. 178 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Were always fooling ourselves. 179 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, listen, there's a lot of reasons I 180 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: don't believe in the Democratic Party anymore. But you know, 181 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, they won the election, they were in the 182 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 4: White House for four years, and that still didn't stop 183 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: what we're seeing now. So how can we have faith 184 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: in them to do anything? And I know you're saying, 185 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: you know, you know, we can't depend on them, but 186 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: you tell us to vote for them so they can 187 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: go in there and stop these things from happening. 188 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: But they didn't. They didn't stop the fascists from writing. 189 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: I think that we vote for them as the alternative 190 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: to those that are openly gonna do what the Trump 191 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: is doing. 192 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 1: Now. Nobody gonna say that they're the perfection. 193 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: But if I'm drowning in the water, if a guy 194 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: gonna bring me up two inches rather than bring me 195 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: all the way out, the other guy's holding my leg 196 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: bringing me down, I'm gonna. 197 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Go with the two inches. But we did that. 198 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: Nothing or in twenty twenty. We know we made some 199 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: advancements in those four years. We were able to stop stopping. First, 200 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: we was able to deal with saving some healthcare. We 201 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: were able to deal with infrastructure development where Black's got 202 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: some contracts. 203 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: We got some things done, But then it reverts back. 204 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: If you look at history, it is always one step 205 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: forward and one back. After slavery, we had twelve years 206 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: of reconstruction, then fifty years of Jim Crow. So if 207 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: we don't understand that they're gonna fight back, I think 208 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: the problem is a lot of us relax and say 209 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: we won now we there now. No, the fight is 210 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: just as much important when you in as when you're trying. 211 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: To get in. 212 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: So where do we go from now? You know, we 213 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: look at all the things that Trump is doing. Right, 214 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: he said he's gonna possibly run a third or fourth term. 215 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: You never have to vote again. 216 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's taught is well. First of all, to 217 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: get a third t he's had to change the constitution. 218 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 3: You've got to get two thirds of the Senate to 219 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: vote for two thirds of the House, and then two 220 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: thirds of the states to rectify that. 221 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: That ain't gonna happen. 222 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: So but he what he's doing is his boys got 223 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 3: caught on that signal uh out on that signal lap 224 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: And he's trying to change the conversation. He's a master 225 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: that he knows how we'll all talk about it. He's 226 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: gonna run again. Rather than talk about how the Vice president's, 227 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: secretary of Defense, secretary of State, and all of them 228 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: were on an app talking about classified stuff of attacking 229 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: the building, and yeomen and Trump' sitt up to how 230 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: I changed the conversation. 231 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out there. He's only been in three months. 232 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: Why would he we even be talking about what he's 233 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: gonna do in four years? And Biden was too old, 234 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: We said, right, Trump will. 235 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: Be eighty two years old in four years. I mean, 236 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: as crazy as he is. And now can you imagine 237 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: what he's gonna be like at eighty. 238 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: Two years old, trying to convince two thirds of the 239 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: state to bring him back in. 240 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: It's all of the his in his mind. It's a 241 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: decoy to try to get away from the issues right 242 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: now because they can't rationally. 243 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: This is the first time you see and in red 244 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: states they have an election in Wisconsin toing in Florida 245 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: where they are fighting to win those elections because even 246 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: whites are now going to their town hall meeting saying, 247 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: wait a minute, you messing with my social security, Wait 248 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: a minute, you messing with my medicare. Republican congressman can't 249 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: hold town hall meetings, so he's got to try to 250 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: change the conversation, make it something else. 251 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: And he's good at that. 252 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: There's no doubt in my mind that Republicans are gonna 253 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: fumble the ball. You already see it happening now, right, 254 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: you know, based off what you just said about what's 255 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: happening in the town halls. You know, on a larger level, 256 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: you see what's going on at. 257 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: The stock market, all of that type of stuff. 258 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: But even when they fumble, I don't think Democrats have 259 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: the team to recover the ball. 260 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: Now there, you and I agree. I think the problem 261 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: is that you got the wrong team players. You cannot 262 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: You cannot play a game if you're not going to 263 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: play the game. And if you they're afraid of Trump 264 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 3: is gonna tweet, Trump's gonna do this, don't get in 265 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: the ring if you're afraid to get hit. 266 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: I agree. 267 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: You got to throw a blow and expect the blow 268 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: to come back. And that's what I've dealt with all 269 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: my I assume they're gonna come and throw blows in 270 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: because I'm throwing blows that the people say to me 271 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: all the time, Redmud, how do you take it? Cause 272 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: I expected, I mean, do I think I'm gonna swing 273 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: at them and call them bigots and talk about what 274 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: they're doing to us, and they're not gonna swing back. 275 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: I think a lot of us act like the folks 276 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: that we're talking about a wicked ain't really wicked. 277 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: They are really wicked, and they're gonna try to do 278 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: wicked stuff. 279 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 4: I feel like you should primary everybody in a democratic 280 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: Democratic party who's not willing to fight and the leadership 281 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: like the Chucks Hume was, the keeen Jeffers. If y'all 282 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: not willing to fight, we should be calling for them 283 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: to step. 284 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 3: Down to But the only way you can run in 285 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: the primary is you got to be in the party. 286 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: If you're not registered in the party, you can't primary. 287 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: So I think that I agree with primary, and I 288 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: agree that a lot of these people need to be challenged. 289 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: But you've got to build up a base to challenge them. 290 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: And that's why I talk about the temporary folks. You 291 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: need them for flash, but you need your people that 292 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: are gonna be there in and out so they can 293 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: build some permanent structure. 294 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: The nigga's crazy that you know, you look at Trump 295 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: right like them love him, hate him whatever. The fact 296 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: that he gets in office and he actually shows the 297 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: power that we thought other president should have had, especially Democrats, 298 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: like I mean, the first day he gets on stage, 299 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: he gets a pending, he signing executive orders left and right. 300 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: I mean, his guys that's getting that has twenty years 301 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: and just imprisoned ten years in prison parties them immediately. 302 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: And then you look at some of our democratic presidents 303 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: and you'd be like, man, they could have helped so 304 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: many people for good. It just never did, just was 305 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: cowardly and didn't. So how does that give the people confidence? 306 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't. 307 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: And that's why guys like me that would come to 308 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: the Democrats and ask them to pardon people and didn't 309 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: can be disappointed and say I went to Biden and 310 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: asks for certain partons that we couldn't get. Pardon the Sun, 311 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: but I couldn't get him the part in Jesse Jackson's 312 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 3: son and who should have been parton, and the others 313 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: we went there. 314 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: So how does that make you feel? 315 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: As much as you feel like I'm not. 316 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 3: Getting everything I want, but I'm certainly not going to 317 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: go on the other side. So we need to then 318 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: put the right kind of leadership there. 319 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: You don't. 320 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: You don't if you're on a team. If the quarterback 321 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: or the or the tacklers can't work, you get better 322 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: team players. You don't join the other team. So that's 323 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. There's a difference in the frustration some 324 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: of us are showing and some of you expressed, and 325 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: then those that went and joined the other team, they 326 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: went and supported Trump like that was an alternative. The 327 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: alternative to having a head cold is not suicide. 328 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 6: I was going to say, you decided whether you back 329 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 6: it away from Eric Adams. 330 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Adams, how do I do what? Look at mayor Eric Adams. 331 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: Look Eric, and I go away. When I started the 332 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: National Action Network, he was one of the founders. 333 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: Where he is now. 334 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: I think that he has made some positions that I 335 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: disagree with, and I've told him that whether he made 336 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: a deal with Trump or not, I don't know, but 337 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: I know that there's some things in policing and all 338 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: we disagree some things that we agree with. But I 339 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: think that he's in a very peculiar political position. 340 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how he can get re elected. 341 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 5: I was gonna say so because before the conversation is 342 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: that you are having a conversation about whether you're going 343 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 5: to back him as mayor or not again, so you 344 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 5: have made a decision not to. 345 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's running yet, as he said 346 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: he's running. 347 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: He hasn't said. He has to Thursday to say if 348 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: he's running again. 349 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 6: But if he does, say right now, do you know 350 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 6: what you would do? 351 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: Night, I'll really call you for that because I think 352 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 5: for me, I'm looking I'm looking at it because I 353 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: definitely will. I'm looking at it because you've been so 354 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: vocal about him and now you're vocally like. 355 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm going to do. What do 356 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 6: you want him to do? 357 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: Like? What do you expect? 358 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: You want to hear him to continue to fight for 359 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: the things that I supported them are, like the right 360 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: kind of policing in our community, like being fair to 361 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: people that are getting cut out of jobs in the 362 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: city of New York life, standing up to Trump on 363 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff that he is agreeing with 364 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: Trump on. I do not agree that we should put 365 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: the Haitians and people of color in a category that 366 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: they can be picked up by ice just because of 367 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: what they look like. 368 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: That is racial profiling. I wanted to do those. 369 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: Things as a civil rights leader. Do you feel like 370 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: you should work with this administration on anything with the 371 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: president trumpets. I don't think that I have that option. 372 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: Trump has made it clear he's not gonna work with 373 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: civil Rightley. He tweets at least once a month against 374 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: me by name, because I. 375 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: Fought him when he was here Central Point five. We 376 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: fought him with everybody thought they were guilty. Them boys 377 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: went to jail, and two of them might My rallies 378 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: every week now because we support her. So I don't 379 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: think that the are areas that he and I could 380 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: ever work together. But even though he tried to play democrat, 381 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: he used to come to national Action there were convention twice. 382 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: He can't. But there are some that can work with him. 383 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: I guess to do that, but they need to show 384 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: us the result of the work. You remember, both of you. 385 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: You remember when I had access to Obama, I could 386 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: come out and say, well, I got Obama to do 387 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: this on that. I've not seen any black come out 388 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: and say I got Trump to do anything. 389 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: In fact, the last black I saw come out of 390 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: there was Alma. 391 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: Rosa, who said he's a racist. We don't even have 392 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: an Ama Rosa in the White House. 393 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Now, do you feel like there's enough resistance on the street. No, 394 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I do not. 395 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: I think that the resistance on the street when you 396 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: see one of the things we're talking about is doing 397 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: a boycott against a single company and not talking about 398 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: we're gonna do it ten days, thirty. 399 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: You boycott. I grew up in Operation Breadback. 400 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: You boycott till you break them, or you make them 401 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: do what you want to do. You don't put a 402 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: timeline because they're just wait on you and oh we 403 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: got forty days, Oh we got You need to break. 404 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Things down economically. 405 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: None of these companies that we're studying coming out with 406 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: now can survive a long boy because you find out 407 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: who has a margin of profit four or five percent 408 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: and their consumer dollars thirty percent come from the black community, 409 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: which means all you gotta do is stop seven eight 410 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: out of those thirty to not buy the product longer 411 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: than they can operate in the red. 412 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: That's how you do a boycott. That's what we're getting 413 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: ready to do. 414 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: So you don't want DEI Diversity, Equity and inclusion, fine, 415 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: then you shouldn't have a diversified consumer base. You can't 416 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: have diversity in your selling, in your sales. But you 417 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: don't want diversity in the c suite, then why are 418 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: we buying from you. I can buy my stuff from 419 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: somebody else. And that's what we're coming out this week 420 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 3: on the company that we're going after, and we're gonna 421 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: stay on them until we get them to turn around 422 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: on this d I thing. 423 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: You know company, I've announced it at the end of 424 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: the convention. 425 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: That's one thing that and we gonn announce where we 426 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 3: you know, we march every year, Big March a couple 427 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: hundred thousand and Washington. We're gonna do it somewhere else 428 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: this year. I'm announced that on Saturday Day. That to 429 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: the boycott, it's gonna be connected to economics. It's just 430 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: economic battle. We do not have the Senate, we do 431 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 3: not have the House, but Trump and the Senate and 432 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: the House can't tell us where to spend our dollars. 433 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: We are to focus on corporate businesses and force them 434 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: to tell their man, Donald Trump, what they got to 435 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: back up on. 436 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 4: That's a mistake that was made after George Floyd, when 437 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: all those corporations you know, proposed all that money that 438 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: we never saw. I remember Reverend Jesse Jackson pressuring corporations 439 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: back in the day to keep their promising. 440 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: I was his youth director. That's why I know I've 441 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: been there. I'm not experiment. I was there. I became 442 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: youth director of Operation Bread Baskets with when I was thirteen, 443 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: So I grew up in this. And you don't have 444 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: a timeline on boycott and you don't stop the pressure until, 445 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: first of all, you have these are the six things 446 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: we want, contracts, money in black banks. That's what we 447 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: were doing, advertising on black media. You don't even have 448 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: black media no more. We would categorize it now. We 449 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: don't do that anymore. And that's why we got to 450 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 3: bring that back because that worked. 451 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 6: We don't mean by we don't have black media anymore. 452 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: We don't have enough black owned media. We had more 453 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: black owned media in twenty years ago than we have now. 454 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: What did you how did you feel? You know, I've 455 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: seen the press go at you and go to a 456 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: lot of the people at Kamala Harris's campaign gave money 457 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: to during the campaign. So was what was your thoughts 458 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: on that? 459 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: I expected that I thought they was late. 460 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris gave some civil rights groups money to help 461 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: get the vote out. Non partisant signed a contract with 462 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: us that we could not uh in any way endorsed candidates, 463 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: so that they were protected. 464 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: We were protecting. 465 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: Nobody ever asked, did you'll have a contract. I think 466 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: she gave several groups a couple million dollars. She gave 467 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: National Action. There were five hundred thousand, and the tour 468 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: we took, I took Central Park five two of them 469 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: all over the country cost us more than that. We 470 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 3: had to raise more money. So I expected them to 471 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: do that. And my thing, it's fine, we can bring 472 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: the contract. Let's go to court, because then I'm gonna 473 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 3: ask you about all the money's Republicans was giving some 474 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: of these Christian Conservative churches and these groups. 475 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna take a shot. They are not going to 476 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: mess with you unless you messing with them. 477 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting You got some of the people that 478 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: you referred to that got some of that money doing 479 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: the George Floyd. They ain't talking about them, they ain't 480 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: prosecuting them. They're going after other people. I'm talking about 481 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: people that. 482 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: Did crazy stuff with that money. 483 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 3: None of them have you heard, got a problem, but 484 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: they're still beating up on us. 485 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 6: I had a question for you true. 486 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: People that got hundreds of millions of dollars and nobody 487 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 4: say I did a half million dollars or a seven month. 488 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: But you know what that's about those because you're you're 489 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 5: like a figure of face that people want to move 490 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: in target. 491 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: And accept that. That's why I don't give me. I 492 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: don't be crying. I expect, in fact, I get a 493 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: little upset if they don't hit me at least once 494 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: every couple of weeks, must mean I ain't got my fastball. 495 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: Then Jarlamaine to God be saying I done got old. 496 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: So I gotta say. 497 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 5: I had a question you mentioned like having black people 498 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 5: sending next to Trump. 499 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 6: We don't have anybody right now doing that. 500 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: When you talk about Amrosa, people compare Candace Owens to Amorosa, 501 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 5: and we're saying that she was trying to position herself 502 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 5: that way. I know she's not the biggest fan of you, 503 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 5: but like you do you think something like that would 504 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 5: have been a help or hurt for us if she 505 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 5: was able to position herself the way she was trying to. 506 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 6: Who candas owns and. 507 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: You put the canvas owns and and that category not 508 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: been in the White House. 509 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 6: No she hasn't. 510 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 5: She was the way people felt like she was trying 511 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: to position herself that way. 512 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: To get there. 513 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: If if she walks in right now, I wouldn't know, 514 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: so I don't notice. 515 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 6: I know that's right. 516 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: I love what y'all do with Operation brad Basket. I 517 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 4: have done with Operation bread Basket. That's something that I 518 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: think that this generation needs to study. 519 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: When you look at I remember what bread basket. 520 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: We would go at Donalds or Burger King or whatever 521 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: and say you got to have black franchises. That's how 522 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: black friends and I can name those that had them, 523 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: and those were spelled out results so you could gauge it. 524 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: And that's what we got to go back to. We 525 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: want our own businesses. Yes, okay, give us some franchise. 526 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: Put money in black banks where we can loan money. 527 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: When you look at the fact right here at New 528 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: York City, let's use New York for example, you have 529 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 3: two thirds of the City of New York black and brown. 530 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: Ask who is managing the funds for the taxpayers. I 531 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: met with had all the Meryl candidates come to our convention, 532 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: and that's one of the things I raised with Eric, 533 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: going put to your thing, how do you have all 534 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: of this money and none of the blacks and financial services, 535 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: whether they an asset manager, whatever, are handling a large 536 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: summer of the money is our taxpayers. So let me 537 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: tell you what happens. I mean with a union. A 538 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: union says that seventy cent of my union members are 539 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: black and Latino. I said, who invests their pension funds? Oh, 540 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: the pension board takes care of that. Let me meet 541 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: with the pension board. Pension boars all white. They lend 542 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: money to developers. Those developers take that money and gentrify 543 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: our community. So grandma's pension funds is the ones that 544 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: are financing her own removal. We need to start thinking 545 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: economic again. And I want to ask you too. 546 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: I know that you know y'all driven a lot more 547 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 4: traffic the Costco because Costco is somebody who stood by 548 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: their DEI initiatives. What is Costco doing for the move? 549 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: We want? God? 550 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 3: Well, they I don't want to do nothing for me personally, 551 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: They've never donated to nothing, but I want them to 552 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: open up some Costco stores where we can own some 553 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: of those stores. We can franchise some of those stores. 554 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: We wanted to see. We went to say we're gonna 555 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: do a buy cut. We go in there and buy 556 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: because they stood up for us, but now do business 557 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: with us. I don't want again for us to always 558 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: be the receivers of what is considered charity. 559 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: Give us parody. M hm. 560 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: And you got the National Action Network with It's coming 561 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 4: up this week right Wednesday honored Miss Patty LaBelle honored. 562 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Uh. 563 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 3: We're going to have everybody from the governor of Maryland 564 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: West Moore, who's only black governor, to the chair of 565 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party. We're gonna ask some hard questions. We're 566 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: gonna have Ben Crump is coming with a lot of 567 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: the cases that we affought. Uh, everybody's gonna be the 568 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: doctor Michael Ary Dyson and it's four days week. Alconvins 569 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: will always have thousands be cause it's free. And uh, 570 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: we even had Charlamagne the God dere one. 571 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: Absolutely I'm gonna be there with him. I'm gonna be 572 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: with you know you're gonna be there because of her. 573 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: He's no, you don't know about that, real clear. 574 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: He's not coming out of respect to me. 575 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: That is not coming with Paddy and the bell made 576 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: it clear. Charlamagne of God is sitting with me, I'm 577 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 3: not sitting with you, reverend, I said. 578 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: Okay, but they told me what it was. 579 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, absolutely there, yeah, No, he's been there 580 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 3: for our youth and all that. 581 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: He's done that. 582 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 5: How did you when asap Rocky was going through all 583 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: of the stuff that he was going through in court 584 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 5: and you tweeted out about the black jurors, that the 585 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 5: lack thereof how do you decide when things like that 586 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 5: come across your desk what you put, like put your 587 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 5: name on. 588 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 3: Well, first, the first law I use is that I 589 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: don't ever get involved in some unless somebody involve action. 590 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: When he was in jail, his mother came to me, 591 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: and that's why I stood up for him. 592 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Then Trump helped get him back. I give Trump credit 593 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: for that. 594 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 6: Oh, when he was over and when he gets over. 595 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: There, so that I knew him. 596 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: So when he's on trial this time and somebody in 597 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: his legal team called me and said that you know, 598 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: this is an all white pool that they're choosing from, 599 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: I said that's wrong. He said, would you come out 600 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: of here? I said, I don't have to come out. 601 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 3: I can tweet, and I tweeted. I wouldn't have done 602 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: that without the legal team, because I wouldn't have known 603 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: what their legal strategy was. Anytime you see me out there, 604 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: it's because some of the family members of the legal 605 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: team have called us. I don't chase ambulance you know, 606 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: people say, ah, the ambulance chasers. No, we ain't ambulance chasers. 607 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: We responded to calls, Oh, so. 608 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: You don't dive in the cases to make sure that 609 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: people are doing right by those individuals like you didn't. 610 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: You wasn't diving in the asab. You wasn't diving into 611 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: the diddy unless somebody actually calls you. 612 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: Somebody actually called and then we research it. For example, 613 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: when George Floyd happened, we were in the middle of 614 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: a pandemic. 615 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: Ben Crump, who's gonna be. 616 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: A leading out speaking criminal Justice forum at the convention, 617 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: he called me very mald Did you hear about this 618 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: guy in Minneapolis? I said, I saw something on the news. 619 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Because everyone's locked in watching this, he said, the family like. 620 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: To speak to you. I said, okay, they connected me. 621 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: Would you go to Minneapolis, would you leave some margines, 622 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: would you do the funerals? 623 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: I said, have we seen the whole tape? Yeah? 624 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: And it's exactly what we saw. Yeah, I said, right, 625 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: I'm down, no problem. I called Eric Gardner's mother because 626 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: George Floyd reminded me of Eric Garner, you know, the 627 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: whole choke hol of course, and I asked her, I said, 628 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: would you go with me to Minneapolis. I'm gonna do 629 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: the funeral, We're gonna do a march, and we're gonna 630 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: build up to go to Washington. 631 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: She said, I'm down, and I said, we are one 632 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: promise a pandemic. 633 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: We could not get a flight because a lot of 634 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: the flights was down. I called Robert Smith to be 635 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: in there and said, can I use your plane? He said, 636 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: let me see if my pilots are working the pandemic. 637 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: That's how we got the Minneapolis wow. 638 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: And then. 639 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: When we got ready for the last funeral in Houston, 640 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: we had to fly. A lot of the family inside 641 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: was too shy to call Robert again. I called Tyler Perry. 642 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: Tyler Perry sent his plane to bring their family in. 643 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: But all that was based on a phone call. And 644 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: right now from Trayvon Martin all the way to now, 645 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: from Howard Beach thirty some years ago, all those families 646 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: are at our convention. We just had use of Hawkins 647 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: mother at our Saturday rally. Because I stayed with the families. 648 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: I call them on holidays. They kids grew with my kids. 649 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: If they get in to jam, I try to help 650 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: them out because I know it to be in the newspaper. 651 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: We become family. 652 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 5: Does it ever get like heavy on you or like 653 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 5: what do you do to kind of like decompressed, Because 654 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 5: it's a lot of like death and trauma. 655 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 6: You're speaking at the eulogies. 656 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: It bothers me a lot that I try not to 657 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: think about. 658 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: I have spoke at every victim's funeral you can think, 659 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: and a lot of them we had to help pay 660 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: for it, because you got to remember, nobody's family plans 661 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: on the tragic, and we never even asked for the 662 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: money back, some of them setting for millions in our 663 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: saying you don't mean nothing. 664 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: That's what we do. 665 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: So I mean from back in the day Sean Bell, 666 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: all the way to now. I've done the funeral and artists. 667 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: I was thinking, I just did ROBERTA. Flax eulogy two 668 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: weeks ago. I did James Brown, I did Michael Jackson's. 669 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: I spoke of Aretha Franklins, I did edit, James. I mean, 670 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: you could do a book on a celebrity that would 671 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: make me crazy if I just sat around at night 672 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 3: thinking about it. So what I do is I get 673 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: up in the morning work out, and I listened to 674 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club and I feel better. You just did 675 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: Miss Hazel Dukes to Miss Hazel Duke's I spoke at 676 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: that fuel, but I did the eulogy for bert I 677 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: knew Roberta. 678 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: Since I was thirteen years old. She was in operation. 679 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: Bradbek wow Oon Bredbasket was started by doctor Marluke King Right. 680 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: Kings founded it as his economic arm of Southern christ 681 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: Leeds and Jesse became the Chicago director and then the 682 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: nationals director. And when he became national director, I was 683 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: thirteen years old. I became the youth director in New York. 684 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: So he and Rev. William Jones meant to me. 685 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: I like to study movements that were successful, and you know, 686 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: those movements were successful on so many different levels. What 687 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: should this generation be learning from that civil rights movement 688 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: in the sixties and what wasn't done in that movement 689 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: that should be done now? 690 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: What they should learn is if the objective you should 691 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: judge people by the objective. You cannot in any way 692 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: gauge people by your objective. 693 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: Gauged them by theirs. 694 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: And the objective was they wanted to break down apartheide 695 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: segregation and change the laws on voting. They did that, 696 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: sixty four Voting Rights Act, sixty five Voting Rights Act, 697 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: sixty four Civil Rights Act. 698 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: They did that. 699 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: So what King and them were after they did that, 700 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: then they wanted to build economic basis Jesse and they 701 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 3: did that. They were able to break in the first 702 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: blacks to get on boards and the first blacks that 703 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: would own a lot of franchises, and Reggie Lewis and 704 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: all of them. 705 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: They did that. 706 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: What we did not do is institutionalize those things. So 707 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: from generation to generation that continued and then we build 708 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: our own businesses. 709 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: We could say what we want. 710 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: I've been a different school of thought than the nation Islam, 711 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 3: but Elijah Mohammad built business. Any community you win, and 712 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: that's not there no more. So what we've got to 713 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: now perfect is how do you pass it. 714 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: On in your lane? 715 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: And you know, people come to me, I'd like to 716 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: be the next guy action, but you got to be 717 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: about what we're about. If something happened to the pope. 718 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: You don't get a Baptist to be the new Pope, 719 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: you get a Catholic. So if you not in what 720 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: we believe in, you cannot be in that. But if 721 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: you in that, we need to continue that. And that's 722 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: what we're not done. We've seen too many just go 723 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: all political and get out of the economic. You can't 724 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: afford to be political if you don't have money. 725 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: So even with what this administration is doing, you know, 726 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: rolling back a lot of things that have helped black 727 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: people move forward, we can still build those institutions because 728 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: you're doing it. 729 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: Then he can't make us spend money they want. He 730 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: cannot do that. And if you put the right pressure 731 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: on in corporations, they can make him turn around. Why 732 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: is he talking about tariffs and all that and now 733 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: it's all economic. He is a business man. Donald Trump 734 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: has never held office in life. He went in there 735 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: from business. And that's why I say we've got to 736 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: have an economic strategy. 737 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: That's right and join them. This Wednesday Nationalactionnetwork dot net 738 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: sign up register. So many people are speaking I'm looking 739 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: at right now, Attorney Benjamin Crump, Stacey Adams, Michael, Eric Diyce, 740 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: and of course, Patti LaBelle is gonna be on and 741 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: Charlamagne is gonna be at her table. Congressman Al Green 742 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: will be joining us, doctor Jamaal Bryant. 743 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Uh, you have a conversation without d A. Alvin Bragg. Yeah, 744 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: we'll have d A. Alvin Bragg there. 745 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna talk about a lot of the criminal 746 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: justice stuff from the inside, and then Ben Crump is 747 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: gonna talk about it externally. 748 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: It's all free. 749 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: They have to go go to National Action Network dot 750 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: net and uh, they can register online. We already have 751 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: several thousand, but we we can handle it. But it's 752 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: all free. Uh if they go in and register now. 753 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: And that's the sheriffan New York Times Square. So definitely 754 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: go register, and you gotta come up here more often. 755 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is invite me, all right, say 756 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: no more. 757 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: I had to count Charlamagne, God stop, Patty let Bella 758 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: coming thinking he felt bad. 759 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: He knew he's gonna see me Wednesday night. Oh that's 760 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: what he said. I better. 761 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 5: Can you can you call inlet to cut you off? 762 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but Friday morning, once you make you see 763 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 5: Thursday night, can you call it okay? Because we need 764 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 5: to talk about that. 765 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: I'll call it. 766 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 3: Okay, i'll call it. But I noticed you covered. I 767 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 3: was getting ready to tell the whole mister, you can. 768 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 5: Tell that because I don't like him like that. Oh 769 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 5: you don't know you yeah, yeah, Reverend saying right. 770 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: There, it's Reverend Al Sharpton. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. 771 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club