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Speaker 1: Walk Up to NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sports Book,

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Speaker 1: where we're never junior varsity. Back here in the Chris

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Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio on the morning after Christmas here on

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Speaker 1: the West Coast with my friend Patrick claybaughn how was Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Christmas was great? They opened stuff, They had a great time.

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Speaker 2: They jumped from toy to toy, they fall over toys.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's all you could hope for is to

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Speaker 2: run back all the grief that you gave parents, including

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Speaker 2: my son waking up at five thirty in the morning

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Speaker 2: and then and then waking his sister up saying that

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Speaker 2: Santa came. So that's what we get.

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Speaker 3: That's light work.

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Speaker 1: Walkers up that early every day, forget on Christmas. My

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Speaker 1: family in Japan's there's a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: face timing, but happy, Uh yeah that the kids and

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Speaker 1: welcome up early and enjoin it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the best stuff. I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't have asked for a better, you know, day

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Speaker 1: of football, but we could have. It was it was

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Speaker 1: not close games and that's fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't have it was the exact results that

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Speaker 4: I desired.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good point. So this show is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a little different than most. It is our Week

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Speaker 1: seventeen preview show, and we're gonna get to all the games.

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Speaker 1: But in the first block of our show, yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: recap the two Christmas games. Let's go to Akerscher in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: Kareem Hunt the running back, Chiefs up twelve twelve, forty

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Speaker 5: four to go in the game, ball at the Steeler

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Speaker 5: twelve yard line.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes will throw.

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Speaker 5: Again right side, with a little bit of room, slings

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Speaker 5: it side of into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown, Chanzas City.

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Speaker 6: A historic touchdown for Travis Kelsey is seventy seven touchdown

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Speaker 6: reception and all time Kansas City Chiefs record, eclipsing the

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Speaker 6: great Tony Gonzalez.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's Mitch Holtis.

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Speaker 1: It's a record breaking touchdown for the man, Travis Kelce

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Speaker 1: twenty nine to ten. This Chiefs team, they're doing the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs thing, although it really wasn't the Chiefs thing last year.

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Speaker 1: They actually didn't play that well down the stretch. But

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Speaker 1: they are absolutely playing their best football of the season

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Speaker 1: at the time that the Steelers are playing their worst.

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Speaker 1: This game, it looked like the final score twenty nine

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Speaker 1: to ten. It looked like one team which is gearing

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Speaker 1: up for another potential championship run and another potential early

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Speaker 1: exit for the Steelers from the playoffs. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: them in a second, but how impressive was it to

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Speaker 1: watch Patrick Mahomes kind of at peak Patrick Mahomes power and.

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Speaker 2: It's something where Isaiah Pacheco has eighteen yards, Kareem Hunt

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Speaker 2: has twenty yards in this game, and the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs essentially played like, okay, well, we're the best third

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Speaker 2: down team in football with the best quarterback. A lot

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Speaker 2: of folks, including the guy that's talking right now, i've

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Speaker 2: ever seen why don't we just pretend like a third

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: And so they did that and they executed greatly because

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Speaker 2: that's how good they are, and they have the talent

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Speaker 2: to do that now with Hollywood coming back. As much

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Speaker 2: as it pains me to say, this is the best

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Speaker 2: version of the Chiefs who look that good on defense

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Speaker 2: as well, Greg without Chris Jones in this entire game,

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Speaker 2: to where you've seen the flaws and you've seen just

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Speaker 2: how bad things can go, and now it's like, where

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Speaker 2: does that come from?

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Speaker 4: Who stops this at this point.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the Bells are the Ravens could but

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Speaker 1: more on the Ravens in a second. But now Kansas

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Speaker 1: City will have home field advantage throughout the playoffs. They

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Speaker 1: don't have to play in Week eighteen any of their

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Speaker 1: that they feel like resting. It's tough, it's football. You

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Speaker 1: can't just rest everyone all the time. But it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be surprising if Patrick Mahome gets a twenty four day

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Speaker 1: I just go back to the second drive of this game.

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Speaker 1: So they're already up seven to nothing. They had a

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Speaker 1: very efficient first touchdown drive, typical Chiefs, but the second

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Speaker 3: Oh, they're really back.

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Speaker 1: There was that third and eleven play where Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: For the most part, he's getting rid of the ball

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Speaker 1: Fastest time to throw in his career in this game

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Speaker 1: keep doing that. But this was not a play where

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Speaker 1: he got rid of the ball quickly. It's third and eleven.

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Speaker 3: Get up and catch it. Great play.

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Speaker 1: Very next play, we see something that basically hasn't been

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Speaker 3: A go ball. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes actually has a big arm and can throw

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Speaker 1: the ball down.

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Speaker 3: The field if someone's open for him.

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Speaker 1: This time it was Justin Watson wide open for at

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Speaker 1: in for Joey Porter Junior. You saw that effect. Then

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Speaker 1: to finish out that drive, I thought just as important

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Speaker 1: of a play, Patrick Mahomes hits his foot at the

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Speaker 1: on time on rhythm, a corner route with a lot

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Speaker 1: Again, Watson open in the corner at the end zone,

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Speaker 1: And that one stuck out to me too, because they're

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Speaker 1: that one drive alone, it was like I saw it all.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, it's like, we finally got fantasy Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Let's tell you we really know Patrick Mahomes is back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get twenty twenty two fantasy Patrick Mahomes. Because

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Speaker 2: the offenses look different. They have not looked this good

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is dropping back. He completes twelve of those passes

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Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty nine yards. But it was just

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Speaker 4: And I know there's the old adage, Well it's this

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Speaker 4: week seventeen everybody has hurt.

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Speaker 2: Some guys are dealing with more than others, and some

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Speaker 2: said that, there was very little the Steelers defense could

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Speaker 3: They're just not special enough.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, they've given up thirty points a game in the

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Speaker 3: And I think they needed their defense to be special.

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Speaker 1: Now, if there wasn't a holding call that took seven

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Speaker 1: points off the board, it looked like the right call

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Speaker 3: You're saying, maybe it's not the right one. Who knows

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Speaker 2: Clono Wason wasn't six seven? Yeah, I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: Steph's fair vegerable.

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Speaker 1: It just seemed they were they were gonna win anyways,

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Speaker 1: but it would have been more matter in the play

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Speaker 1: either it was right.

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Speaker 4: It was a rough one.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and it would have been a more competitive game.

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Speaker 1: It would have been better for the Netflix. Uh you

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Speaker 1: know people watching like me. Just so we wanted a

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Speaker 1: close game. But ultimately, the Chiefs had a drop back

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mentioned the fastest time to throw. Mike

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Speaker 1: Sando the Athletic had a crazy stat in the thirty

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Speaker 1: one starts where Patrick Mahomes let go of the ball

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Speaker 1: Chiefs teams being one in eight. I think that's a

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Speaker 3: I'm putting them on fraud Watch.

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Speaker 1: We'll go back to that after this because they lost

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Speaker 7: to do different. We're not going to continue to do

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Speaker 1: I know you're the co executor of fraud Watch. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get to the biggest point of the season, you

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Speaker 1: play three great teams, and you get beaten soundly by

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Speaker 1: all three.

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Speaker 2: What's your verdict that they're not because fraud Watch was

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Speaker 2: reserved for teams that are abject frauds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as we mentioned there, you could change.

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Speaker 4: You could change a.

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Speaker 2: Few things about this game, and it turns out it

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Speaker 2: they get George Pickens back to where you finally have

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Speaker 2: hope that they're able to make those big plays.

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Speaker 4: They can't necessarily make those.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in what Mike Tomlin is talking about as

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Speaker 2: to how they do things differently.

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Speaker 1: There's something going on based on the postgame comment Patrick

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Speaker 1: Queen saying that some things need to change, and there's

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Speaker 1: something going on, and there's been all these different comments

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Speaker 1: from defensive players, and there's there's sleuthing going on and

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Speaker 1: the dark corners of Steelers Twitter and some of the

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Speaker 3: Let's go to NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 8: Triangle formation in the backfield, Lamar a five yards deep,

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Speaker 9: He's gone twenty ten five touchdown Lamarge jack a forty

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Speaker 1: Did good job by Jerry Sandusky. And it's true the

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Speaker 1: anti climactic after what happened with Beyonce and what happened

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Speaker 1: What a performance by Lamar Jackson thirty one to two.

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Speaker 1: Your Ravens didn't even make you sweat. You got to

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Speaker 4: By the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have blamed you.

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Speaker 1: This was a complete blowout, the Texans getting their only

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was able to go do some more toy

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Speaker 2: all right, all right, coach, we've seen enough eight and

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Speaker 2: was kind of on offense unmarred other than Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: all of these things, it was a fun opportunity to

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Speaker 2: He hits it again when Will Anderson takes takes Derrick

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Speaker 2: Lamar is undefeated. Whatever the number is. I'm making the

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Speaker 2: pole give decision with Derrick Henry. Good call, and it's

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Speaker 2: he's been so on cue with that that it's made

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Speaker 4: But really he's just making the right call every time.

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Speaker 3: I think, are you talking about that?

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Speaker 1: It was a twenty five yard scramble on the very

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Speaker 1: You're so right to point that out because I was

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Speaker 1: There is a difference. Imagine his career if he played

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Speaker 1: it durds the whole time. I mean, it looked unfair.

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Speaker 1: He had what was his fastest time according to the

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Speaker 1: the game like he was jogging and he was right,

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Speaker 1: saw some really special juice from Derrick Henry, who if

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Speaker 1: you can have an underrated season at like eighteen hundred

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Speaker 1: rushing yards that he is now most years, he'd be

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Speaker 1: a legit MVP candidate. When I'm watching the postgame show

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Speaker 1: how does it feel to be sitting next to the MVP.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Derrick Henry is not like me, but I

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Speaker 3: Pretty good too.

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Speaker 1: I got nineteen hundred yards from scrimmage, I got four.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving the league in touches. I have seventeen hundred

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Speaker 3: Let's actually listen to that. That's the touchdown to Isaiah Likely.

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Speaker 8: So Raven's come to the line on second down play action,

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Speaker 8: Lamar rolls right, pumps once, pumps twice. Now he steps back,

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Speaker 10: Touchdown Isaiah Likely, and Lamar Jackson does it again. Daniel

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Speaker 10: Hunter was applying to pressure and Lamar just kept back pedaling,

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Speaker 3: That was It's outrageous. It's unfair.

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Speaker 1: He only threw fifteen passes in this game and ran

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Speaker 1: it four times, and he had like nine great highlights

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Speaker 2: The problem for Daniel Hunter is not being able to

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Speaker 2: very difficult for him to to separate. Lamar just needs time,

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Speaker 2: and once Danil makes that decision to dance with Lamar,

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna be able to go at them, just try.

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Speaker 2: And you're having to defend a part of the field

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Speaker 4: But it's very difficult to do.

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Speaker 2: When you did that, and Lamar already stopped and cut back,

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Speaker 1: They remind me a lot of the Steelers. I think

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Speaker 1: I'd probably take Pittsburgh in that scenario. But it's hard

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Speaker 1: offense has been, and but they're not good enough to

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Speaker 1: two and a half seconds. And the Ravens defensive improvement

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Speaker 1: Josh Johnson actually had a nice garbage time drive that

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Speaker 1: And I do wonder what this Texans team, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But they just had a bye week. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's like they need to I don't know, it's just

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Speaker 2: All right, well, the reset right, the schedule has a

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Speaker 2: I can't go into that, but he hasn't been put

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nico had one bad drop, but CJ missed them

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Speaker 1: Not to psychoanalyze, I think he's a he's an emotional player, CJ.

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Speaker 1: They are one up. But things are really looking good

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Speaker 1: for the Marlin Humphrey. Great game, are Darius Washington? Great game?

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Speaker 1: And then I really want to just give a little

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Speaker 3: Let's listen to Lamar after the game.

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Speaker 4: Great from Mancus, that's a record. As you know, it's

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Speaker 1: enough has been made out of this, but this is

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Speaker 1: a it's a great award, I mean a great record

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Speaker 1: to break. For him to do it in his eighth

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Speaker 1: season now or seventh season, Lamar Jackson is incredible and

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Speaker 1: just just is a reminder of like, wow, this is

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Speaker 1: an all time great right in the middle of his prime.

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Speaker 1: Like he could add a lot of rushing yards to

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Speaker 1: that record.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you when you looked at that, and

448
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Speaker 2: maybe that's why it's it's not getting the pop because

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Speaker 2: we expected it, right, you get in the year six,

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Speaker 2: year seven's, Oh, Lamar is gonna eventually catch and pass

451
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Speaker 2: Michael Vick, Like what's it but to Lamar right to

452
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Speaker 2: those who've grown up watching somebody and really what it

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Speaker 2: means to play this position in your own particular way,

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Speaker 2: Like there were people who came before that, Right, there's

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Speaker 2: Steve Young's, the Randalls, the Mike Vicks. And to see

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Speaker 2: that passed on and to see Lamar have that very

457
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Speaker 2: genuine reaction after he wasn't able to see Beyonce at halftime,

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Speaker 2: it means something to him and I think that's cool.

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Speaker 1: I think it's amazing because Lamar is is the best

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Speaker 1: example of Yeah, the position has really changed. I mean

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Speaker 1: even the baseline of how much you need to rush

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback has totally changed. But Lamar is the

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Speaker 1: greatest at that particular degular part of quarterbacking and he's

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Speaker 1: an example of how the position has changed.

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Speaker 3: And it's awesome setting that record.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, we could talk beyond halftime show for another

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, but we got to get onto our preview

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Speaker 1: and that was that was an incredible performance.

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Speaker 4: Though. No, it's great, the production, the execution.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, maybe maybe better than any halftime show I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: And that's no slight to Yeah, that's no slight to anyone.

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Speaker 1: And yes, justice for Sweet Honey, Bucket and Shaboozi in

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Speaker 1: a big spot back in a couple of minutes back

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Yeah, no, NFL Daily. It's a big

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Speaker 1: week for NFL Network. Yes, actually we're on the NFL channel,

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Speaker 1: not NFL Network. You can't watch Patrick and I on

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Speaker 1: on your fast channels if you're into that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: But yes, Saturday, it's a triple header and NFL Network

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Speaker 1: lucked out here because two of the three games are

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Speaker 1: the biggest among the biggest of the week, and the first,

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Speaker 1: one's got two of my favorite quarters.

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Speaker 4: Oh so much juice in this game.

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Speaker 2: We will go chronologically with our NFL Network triple header chronologically.

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Speaker 4: The root word there being chronos Greek for time.

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Speaker 2: Many folks think of mythology and the being Chronos and

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Speaker 2: how he was once.

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Speaker 4: All that matters.

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Speaker 2: All that matters to Greg Rosenthal is Drake May his

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots playing house two of the Chargers, who

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Speaker 2: were four and a half point favorites. Yes, all these

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Speaker 2: games on the NFL Network. Chris Rose, Ross Tucker, and

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Speaker 2: Steve Weish on the call where Greg, we saw your

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Speaker 2: Patriots give the Bills a very very close scare. And

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Speaker 2: the past two weeks of the Chargers, it's kind of like,

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Speaker 2: who are they the team that sees the Bucks go

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Speaker 2: all over them in the second half or the team

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Speaker 2: that pulls away from the Broncos late?

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Speaker 4: How do you see it going?

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Speaker 1: The most surprising part of the Chargers Broncos game was

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Speaker 1: that they their defense didn't play well. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: they got some stops in the second half there, but

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Speaker 1: their defense, which had been so good all year, is

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Speaker 1: like quietly collapsing a little bit down the stretch. And

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Speaker 1: I've been tracking what their DVOA is all season.

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Speaker 3: They were like one, two, three.

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Speaker 1: Now now they're down to thirteen, so you figure where

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Speaker 1: they're at lately, and amazingly, the Patriots offense has been

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Speaker 1: increasing efficiency shout out to Alex van Pelt as long

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Speaker 1: as they're throwing backwards passes. They've gotten the running game

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Speaker 1: going since the bye week, and the Chargers run defense

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Speaker 1: has really struggled. So Ramandri and Antonio Gibson again when

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Speaker 1: Romandre is not putting the ball on the ground, have

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Speaker 1: been pretty efficient. And so I'm at the point now

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Speaker 1: with how consistent May is from a week to week

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Speaker 1: basis that I actually think their offense can keep them

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Speaker 1: competitive most weeks. It's the other side of the ball

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Speaker 1: that I'm more worried about for the Patriots at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I look over it where Darwin is playing

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Speaker 2: right now, which reminds me of where Kyle Hamilton was

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Speaker 2: playing at the start of the season, right around the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. He's got Derwin's playing ten percent of

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Speaker 2: his snaps around the line of scrimmage as a slot corner,

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Speaker 2: as a safety, as a linebacker this season, where he's

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Speaker 2: far up and I feel like they're having to move

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Speaker 2: Derwin up because they're having some deficiencies probably in the

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Speaker 2: linebacker position and on that first level where teams have

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Speaker 2: been able to have success later on as the season goes,

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Speaker 2: and on offense. The quarterback in Justin Herbert is the

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Speaker 2: only quarterback in the entire NFL who has not thrown

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Speaker 2: an interception when not pressured the whole season. He's got

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Speaker 2: the lowest interception rate in the league. If Herbo has

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Speaker 2: time and he's protected, the ball is pretty much going

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Speaker 2: to go where he wants to go. Now, the Chargers

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Speaker 2: receiving group leaves a lot to be desired. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that that is well. I don't feel like it's

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Speaker 2: not as much of a problem against this new England

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Speaker 2: Patriots team.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 1: I do think Christian Gonzales is an All Pro candidate,

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Speaker 1: certainly should be on the Pro Bowl and is in

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Speaker 1: the mix with Certan as one of the best cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: in the league. But the Chargers are a perfect example

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Speaker 1: of it. Think, yeah, maybe he could fly around with McConkey.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to go on the inside,

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Speaker 1: but you can only take away one guy and Herbert

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Speaker 1: will find the open guy.

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Speaker 3: We might have JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins back in this game he was practicing, which would

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Speaker 1: be absolutely huge. The Chargers can clinch a playoff spot.

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Speaker 1: They are not in the playoffs as of yet. They

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Speaker 1: have a ninety four percent chance to make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: according to next jen Stats. If they lose, they would

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Speaker 1: only have an eighty four percent chance. They actually have

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Speaker 1: an outside chance to climb up to the five seed

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Speaker 1: and pass Pittsburgh. Now that Pittsburgh lost that game, and

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Speaker 1: I think that five spot would be nice. It would

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Speaker 1: be the difference of potentially going to Houston or going

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Speaker 1: to Baltimore, and those are two very different potential outcomes,

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Speaker 1: or even Buffalo there, so it does matter for them.

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport reported that Patriots they want to keep drawd

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Speaker 1: Mayo and as long as things don't collapse down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: and they had a pretty good performance last week. I

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Speaker 1: do worry as a Patriots fan about the lack of improvement.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think they've gotten worse on the defensive.

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Speaker 3: Side of the ball. Overall.

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Speaker 1: They don't communicate well, they're not great upfront, and they

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Speaker 1: don't seem overly well coached to come up with a

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Speaker 1: good game plan. But they did last week against Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see fun game. If you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: mismatch game, at least have two great quarterbacks and then

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Speaker 1: have a broadcast crew which leads the league in knowing

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Speaker 1: me the most of any broadcast crew that's ever existed,

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Speaker 1: because I spend my Sunday nights in the film room

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Speaker 1: there watching the Sunday night game with Chris Rose and

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Speaker 1: done that for years.

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Speaker 3: Know him really well.

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Speaker 1: Started out with Ross Tucker in New York. We did

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Speaker 1: a lot of things together at Roadal World, Yes Network,

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Speaker 1: like back in early like blog days, and then Steve

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Speaker 1: Weisch's on this show. This is my crew. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the Greg. This is the Greg Rosenthal crew.

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Speaker 1: And you should in your career too. I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: you don't know Ross. No, you don't know Ross. I

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Speaker 1: do have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got two out of the three in my phone.

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Speaker 1: And to give Ross a little bit of love, and

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Speaker 1: we should move on. Ross has always known his stuff,

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Speaker 1: but we're always trying to get better. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: better than what I used to be. And Ross has

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Speaker 1: become one of the best broadcasters in the game. Like

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Speaker 1: in game broadcasters. He is absolutely one of my favorites.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gotten better and better.

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Speaker 4: Over the years. Absolutely, here's Ross Tuckers in a big spot.

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Speaker 4: Good good there. As we go to our second second

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Speaker 4: NFL Network.

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Speaker 2: Game again, a Saturday tripleheader on NFL Network, it is

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Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos at the Cincinnati Bengals. There was a

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Speaker 2: tiny voice in the back of my head a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago that said, the Bengals aren't out of

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Speaker 2: this and there is still there is still slight some

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Speaker 2: things have to happen that yous have to try in

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Speaker 2: week eighteen, something that kind of dooms the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: A slight chance. Did they make it to the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: Three and a half point favorites against the Denver Broncos

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Speaker 2: team who just saw those Chargers pull away in the

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Speaker 2: second half.

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Speaker 4: The over under is forty nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Harlan on ANFL Network, which is my dream, Trent

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Speaker 2: Green and Melanie Collins on the call. This Broncos team

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Speaker 2: saw everything. The doubt creeps in, at least to me

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Speaker 2: with the Broncos last week. How do they bounce back

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Speaker 2: and do it against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: By playing the defense that they've played for most of

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Speaker 1: the season. For them to get really picked apart by

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Speaker 1: Herbert was quite surprising. They didn't get enough pressure. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals look like they will have Orlando Brown and Amarius

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Speaker 1: Mims back for this game. In the second half of

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Speaker 1: that game against the Browns, they were down to like

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Speaker 1: one starting offensive lineman and neither of their tackles because

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Speaker 1: Mims got hurt in that game and Brown was not

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Speaker 1: out there, and I was thinking their season is going

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Speaker 1: to end against Denver.

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Speaker 3: Because of that.

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Speaker 1: But you get your tackles back against this Broncos pass rush,

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Speaker 1: it gives Joe Burrow yet another chance of and if

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Speaker 1: he can just raise a team that doesn't really deserve

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Speaker 1: to be there, and yet on offense, like man Chase

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Speaker 1: Brown is better than you think, he's playing really awesome.

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Speaker 1: It does look like t Higgins is gonna be back

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Speaker 1: for this game. So it's a big day for Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: MVP ballot voting. He's not gonna win the MVP, but

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Speaker 1: you got to vote for five guys now, and Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow can and will be on some of those ballots

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Speaker 1: as the third, the fourth, the fifth guy. You go

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Speaker 1: out there and you beat this Broncos team and you

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Speaker 1: play well and you're gonna play Pittsburgh. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be one of the more impressive seasons ever for

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Speaker 1: a team that has eight or nine losses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the the benefit of twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four are there are years where this Joe Burrow year

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Speaker 2: would have been lost and underappreciated, but more people see

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Speaker 2: what he's accomplished with Jamore Chase is gonna win the

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Speaker 2: Triple Crown.

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Speaker 1: If it was last year, I actually think there'd be

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Speaker 1: a decent push for Burrow as like an MVP candidate,

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Speaker 1: Like maybe he wouldn't have won it, but this year

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Speaker 1: the candidates are just much better. It's just just how

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Speaker 1: it happens. Like Lamar's year last year might have been

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Speaker 1: fourth on this this crap, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there needs to be a league wide, maybe

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Speaker 2: planet wise discussion on MVP and what it means and

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Speaker 2: how we have these discussions and like what the concept

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Speaker 2: of a race looks like on a season long award

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Speaker 2: and how vibes go into it. But don't let that

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Speaker 2: take away from from what could be a fun game

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Speaker 2: with two teams and I'm interested to see because when

659
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: you look at the both the player location for Jamar

660
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Chase and for Patrick Ratan, it's not like either of

661
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: these guys are locked into one spot. In fact, they're everywhere,

662
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: and so we could see them going up. And then

663
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Speaker 2: I think about T Higgins leaving the game. We think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna play here, but Riley Moss hasn't played since

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Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: He's practicing, though, sounds like he will be back for

667
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Speaker 1: this game, So that's big.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is big if he's if he's back and healthy,

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Speaker 2: because it ultimately could not matter what Patrick stan does

670
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Speaker 2: with Jamar Chase if they can't cover T.

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Speaker 1: I think those lines crazy. Bengals favored by three and

672
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Speaker 1: a half. I know Vegas has liked the Bengals generally

673
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: all year, but I'm taking the Broncos straight up. The

674
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: best case for the Bengals is that their defense has

675
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: played better lately against some bad quarterbacks, but some of

676
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: their young players Chris Jenkins, McKinley Jackson, Jordan Battle have

677
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: made some plays lately. Nicks has two straight games under

678
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: a PFF passing grade of sixty, which is the first

679
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: time that's happened. For him since weeks one and two,

680
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Speaker 1: so he needs to bounce back. Ultimately, I think they're

681
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: a better team overall, and I think they win this game.

682
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Speaker 2: There is rain and wind in the forecast on Saturday,

683
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Speaker 2: and so I don't know how that makes you feel

684
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Speaker 2: about the rookie quarterback who's had the ups and downs.

685
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Speaker 4: We know Champagne's not hiding.

686
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't help Joe Burrow either. This is a

687
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Speaker 1: high flying passing attack, but yeah, it might be an

688
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: ugly one.

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Speaker 2: Football elements were real men or watching at home with

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Speaker 2: their slippers on let's go to our final game on

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Speaker 2: a NFL network.

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Speaker 4: It is a game that would have been so much bigger.

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Speaker 2: Things worked out differently for the Arizona Cardinals in the

694
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Speaker 2: past couple of weeks. The Cardinals across the street at

695
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: SOFI Stadium against the Rams, who were favored by six

696
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: and a half points. After a dud of an offensive

697
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Speaker 2: game against the Jets, the over under forty seven and

698
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Speaker 2: a half. Rich Kurt and Jamie Arnall on the call.

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Speaker 2: Jamie is traveling the globe right now. It's sorry downstairs

700
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Speaker 2: in the green room. I thought she was doing GMFB

701
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Speaker 2: from home or from the hotel room knows she was here.

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Speaker 4: Wow, there's a lot peak behind the curtain. There's going everywhere.

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Speaker 2: She's back out for this game where despite a bad

704
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: offensive output last week, we're looking at a huge number

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Speaker 2: for the Rams against the Cardinals GRG in the division.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I was surprised how the Rams are

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Speaker 1: favored by six and a half.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, I did my homework. It's Christmas.

709
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Speaker 1: I'm putting in the work to be ready for this

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Speaker 1: preview show as putting for the listeners. And the Cardinals

711
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: are expected to be without both their starting tackles in

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Speaker 1: this game. And Cynthia who maybe we'll talk about this

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Speaker 1: on the Man Versus Mache show. I don't know if

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00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: this will be one, but for her model, when you

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00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: remove a tackle, it makes as big a difference as

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Speaker 1: anything other than removing a quarterback. So you remove both

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Speaker 1: your starting tackles for what had been a strength of

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Speaker 1: this Cardinals team, and you're going up against Jared Verse

719
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: and this Rams pass rush, and you think about how

720
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have struggled throwing the ball anyways, and then

721
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: that six and a half starts to make a little

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Speaker 1: more sense because I think I think it's fair to

723
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Speaker 1: say Patrick, their passing game for Arizona, led by Kyler,

724
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: is the most disappointing part of this team. That's what

725
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: you thought would be the best part of the team

726
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: and it's just been okay to a little less than okay,

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Speaker 1: and that's disappointing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you go back these last few weeks.

729
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison hasn't had more than fifty nine yards since

730
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Speaker 2: like Week eight, and the one game was when.

731
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Speaker 4: He had sixty. And it's not like the targets have

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Speaker 4: gone away.

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Speaker 2: I mean a couple of weeks ago he had twelve targets,

734
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Speaker 2: he had eight last week. And the places where you

735
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: expect this passing game to be explosive, they're just not.

736
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Speaker 2: And then you just want them to stay on schedule,

737
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Speaker 2: convert some third downs, and they've had problems with that

738
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Speaker 2: as well, and so it's hard to picture that getting

739
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: better without the tackles against the Rams, I think it's

740
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Speaker 2: going to be another slug fest. Will we rely the

741
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Speaker 2: Cardinals rely on the search bar and hope that there's

742
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Speaker 2: a bad weird Stafford game like last week where it

743
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Speaker 2: throws for one hundred and ten yards.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got a theory about that is Matthew Stafford

745
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: an indoor cat. Oh, because if you look at some

746
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: of the results this year, he had that game against

747
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: San Francisco, they had that game against Chicago. You put

748
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Speaker 1: Stafford there on the nice, you know, friendly environment of

749
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Speaker 1: so FI and our producer Jason Kleman stepping in today

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Speaker 1: in the big chair here people out sick, get better

751
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: hide them soon, pointing out they're gonna have a real

752
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: home crowd because this is Saturday night. It's the Cardinals

753
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: don't travel that well. It's trying to not quite clinch

754
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: a playoff spot, but basically clinch a playoff spot.

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00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: If they win the game.

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Speaker 1: There are some other results they're counting on for strength

757
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: of victory that might happen even by the end of

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Speaker 1: this weekend. And yeah, I think it'll be rocking there.

759
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: But I do wonder if, like Matthew Stafford, maybe he

760
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: just needs he just needs a nice environment. At this time,

761
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: he's older, he hasn't played very well with pressure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, like maybe there's something to it.

763
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Speaker 2: There might be he gets a consistent playing surface and

764
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: met life traditionally not the.

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Speaker 1: Most well in the in the week before too, it's

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Speaker 1: easy to forget though this was the game where Kyler

767
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: went absolutely nuts. The first time around. Matthew's effort did

768
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: not play great in that game either, and that was

769
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Speaker 1: indoors in Arizona. They got smoked by the Cardinals the

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Speaker 1: first time around, and the teams have changed a lot now.

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Speaker 1: I think the main thing I think about the Rams

772
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: are they're a Kirien Williams team. They are a run

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Speaker 1: heavy team. It's weird because it's McVeigh, but he always

774
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: wants to have a great running team, and I think

775
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: if they can run the ball thirty five forty times,

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Speaker 1: they will, And they've been pretty good at it lately,

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00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: very good at it, no very.

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Speaker 2: Good, especially down the stretch where they've needed to make

779
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: those plays. Both Blake Korm who had a big run

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00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: call back by penalty, but Kiren especially. They've had to

781
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Speaker 2: in these in these games, maybe like the one in

782
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Speaker 2: MetLife where things have been bad playing surface wise and

783
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 2: conditions have been great. But even even in the game

784
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: indoors against against the New Orleans Saints, sure it was

785
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Speaker 2: that second half run game from both of these guys

786
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Speaker 2: that really powered them towards the win.

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Speaker 1: James Connor is practicing on Thursday, and so he is

788
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: expected to play, and Trey Benson is also practicing, so

789
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: there was some question about that. That's that's good news

790
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: at least for the Cardinals. Ny I mentioned the playoff scenarios.

791
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: How it comes down to is the Rams if they

792
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: win this game, they all but win the divisi and

793
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: they need four out of a potential seven other teams

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Speaker 1: to win over the weekend to clinch the strength of victory.

795
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Speaker 1: If that does not happen, they will have to wait

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Speaker 1: until week eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Or the Chicago Bears could do the Rams as solid and.

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Speaker 1: That would help, but it actually wouldn't. Oh yeah, it

799
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Speaker 1: would clinch it with it win. You're right, you're right,

800
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: but you.

801
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: Know, depends on when you're listening to us with their

802
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: cards to that. So the Rams get that win against

803
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Speaker 2: the Jets. The Jets now go on the road to

804
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: actually New York to take on the Buffalo Bills, who

805
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: are favored by eight and a half points. The over

806
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: under is forty seven. It's CDs Team one Jim, Tony

807
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: and Tracy on the call, where Greg. The Bills are

808
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: back at home. They survived a scare at home against

809
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: the division opponent, could Aaron Rodgers and his division opponent

810
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: provide a similar type of scare.

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Speaker 1: This week, they could Okay, they've been playing better offensively,

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00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: right they have.

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Speaker 2: I'm I thought I was setting you up for something different.

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Speaker 3: There, but no could.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't expect they will. They have turned

816
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Speaker 1: into the offense. And I know they only scored nine

817
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: points against the Rams, but they moved the ball the

818
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Speaker 1: whole day.

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Speaker 3: They didn't punt. There's that maximum.

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Speaker 1: It's like defenses now they want to make you just

821
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: go on these long drives and eventually they'll make mistake

822
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Speaker 1: and they won't catch it.

823
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Speaker 3: Like the Jets are of that offense.

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Speaker 1: They go on the long drives, but then they don't

825
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: quite finish it off because of some sort of penalty.

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Speaker 1: They won't be with Olu fashion U this week. They're

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Speaker 1: left tackle, which is a big loss for them. So

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Speaker 1: now I've tucked myself out of it. I think the

829
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Speaker 1: Bills are gonna smoke them. They know they know this

830
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Speaker 1: is this is kind of like what the Chiefs had

831
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. If they can just win this game, they

832
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Speaker 1: buy themselves, at least some of them a nice break

833
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: because they'll clinch the two seed. They won't have the

834
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Speaker 1: one seed, and Josh Allen and his MVP campaign will

835
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Speaker 1: likely be over because they'll they'll likely sit some key

836
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Speaker 1: players in Week eighteen.

837
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Speaker 2: They the key players being like like Josh Allen, James Cook,

838
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Speaker 2: Greg Russo who's been great.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe that Ron Miller who had a good

840
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: game quietly against the Patriots was one of the better

841
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: games I think he's played all year.

842
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: Late stage, Vaughn still still producing, but Aaron Rodgers getting

843
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: the ball, getting rid of the ball very quickly. That's

844
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Speaker 2: been the case all season long. The big plays and

845
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Speaker 2: the just the head scratchers from this team have kind

846
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: of doomed them late. But there's there's an opportunity for

847
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: DJ Reiden Sauce Gardner, who have been very good. The Bills,

848
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: you know, rely on James on James Cook in this

849
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: run game where the Jets have not been great against

850
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Speaker 2: the run.

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Speaker 4: But what if they are? What if they can be

852
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Speaker 4: no id all I can.

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Speaker 1: They could be Between them and the Bears. They're two

854
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: of the best four and eleven teams I've ever seen.

855
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: They should not be four and eleven, Neither one of

856
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: these teams. Those teams should be six and nine.

857
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: Seven and eight.

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Speaker 1: They're really not that bad, but they found ways to lose.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say on this game is just

860
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers multiple times this week questioned what are already

861
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: like pre coping about the Jets cutting him? Said on

862
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, well, I've never been cut by a teenager before.

863
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Speaker 3: Those are fighting words.

864
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: He said that on McAfee, and then at the podium

865
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Speaker 1: he sort of doubled down about it, like it's about, well,

866
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Speaker 1: it's up to Woody whether I'm here next year. It's like, man,

867
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Speaker 1: he's challenging them. He must he either knows he's gone

868
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: or he's just trying to act like, well, you didn't

869
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Speaker 1: fire me, I'm firing myself because he seems like he's

870
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Speaker 1: firing himself, or.

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Speaker 2: He's a dodge consequences perplexingly for things that he's said

872
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: for years, So like why would he be extra careful

873
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: about his language at any point?

874
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: As always Patrick May just a great final point. Also,

875
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson has kind there's been some grumbling unhappiness with

876
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson that's picking up, so just not good vibes.

877
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: I take it back. Bills by forty.

878
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: Bills five million perug Greg, we'd like some points in

879
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: this next game, because the last time we saw it

880
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, there were not a lot of points.

881
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titans at the Jacksonville Jaguars, who were favored

882
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: by one. Shout out Matt Jones thirty nine and a half,

883
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: the over underspiro ddis out of Arceleta and a D

884
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: D ki kabwalla on the call. It's the Mason Rudolph

885
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: edition of the Titans this time around, Greg, is that

886
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: disrespect to Mason Rudolph?

887
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 4: The Jags are favored here, It is.

888
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: A little bit of disrespect. I'm taking the Titans is

889
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: a big game for draft seeding. They are third and

890
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: fourth in Tankathon. There are nine teams that have between

891
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: two and four losses, only one that has two. So

892
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: eight teams between the second and the ninth pick up

893
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: three or four losses, so that you could fall far

894
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: if you lose this game. This is probably Doug Peterson's

895
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: last home game as a Jaguars coach. Shout out to

896
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, got them competitive, got him to win a

897
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: playoff game. Was a tough rebuild, and it's gone sour

898
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: and not going well. For Brian Callahan, this is the

899
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: worst Tennessee season. It feels like Tennessee has been bad

900
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: a lot, but they haven't been this bad. This is

901
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: their worst season in almost a decade, and it just

902
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: keeps getting worse and worse. I think Mason Rudolph gets

903
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: them a victory. Let's take a break. We're going to

904
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: come back on the other side for the game that

905
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: is saving the Sunday slate. Absolutely one of the best

906
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: games of this NFL season because of where it comes.

907
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: That's Packers Vikings.

908
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 8: Back me.

909
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: So I said we were going in chronological order. I lied.

910
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes a game is so good you've got to come

911
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: out of the break with it. And it's the one

912
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: game at four to twenty five on the East Coast,

913
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: won twenty five out here on the best coast, And.

914
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: So the whole country's got to be watching Vikings.

915
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: And Packers, and they should because it's time for the

916
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: game of the week.

917
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: Percented by DraftKings Sportsbook. The Green Bay Packers favored.

918
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: By one Wow.

919
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: Vikings, who are policit pushing for a chance to play

920
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: the Lions in the final week of the season for

921
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: the overall one seed in the entire conference. The over

922
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: under forty eight and a half. Kevin Berkhart, Tom Brady,

923
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Andrews, and Tom Rinaldi on the call.

924
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: The Packers favored here, Greg, should they be?

925
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: No?

926
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: But I get it the numbers, I'll say the Packers

927
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: are one of the best teams in the NFL. They

928
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: are now up to third in DVOA that's total efficiency.

929
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: That's ahead of the Bills and the Eagles. They're third.

930
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: They're just behind the Lions and the Ravens. That's it

931
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: since the buye the Packers. Any metric you look at. Offensively,

932
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: they're in the top five. What's different is that they're

933
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: in a number of magics to defensively in the top

934
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: five and the rest in the top ten. And they

935
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: really have forced a lot of turnovers without making big mistakes.

936
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: The schedule has been part of that. And so that's

937
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: why I say this is a perfect game at the

938
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: perfect time of season. Because as good as the Packers

939
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: have been, and you can make a pretty good argument

940
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: they're one of the best five six teams in the NFL,

941
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: they want to win one of these games. Yes, all

942
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: their losses are to thirteen win teams or whatever, but

943
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: it's like they want to win the Super Bowl.

944
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: So it's a perfect game for them.

945
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: They're going to be able to rest their starters next

946
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: week probably either way, and they'll be locked in to

947
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: where they are and so go win a game against

948
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: another playoff team, maybe move up in the seedings, maybe not,

949
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: but show that you can do it before you take

950
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: a week off and get ready for the playoffs.

951
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: It was very difficult to pick this game. The initial

952
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: thought was watching how Josh Jacobs in this Packers run

953
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: game in offense can can really execute early, middle, late

954
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: game it doesn't matter. But then I just keep picking

955
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: against the Vikings because I'm thinking, Oh, we're gonna get

956
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: to a moment and Sam Donald's not gonna make the play,

957
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: keeps making the Playgreg he keeps making.

958
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: But the moment you jump off of that is when

959
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: they do lose. Well, we shouldn't have picked them against

960
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks.

961
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: That was because what happened. It was exactly what happened

962
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: all season long. The Seahawks showed how good they can be.

963
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: They also showed how bad they can be in key moments,

964
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: and the Vikings just continue to execute. And when we

965
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: forget I know Jamar is about to win the triple Crown.

966
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 2: But like we forget what Justin can do, but Sam

967
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: Sam doesn't, and he goes to him when he needs to.

968
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: Like Sam Donald's averaging like nine yards adjusted yards per attempt.

969
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: He's throwing past the sticks on forty five percent, not

970
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: just of his throws on third down, of all of

971
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: his throws, Like he's he's not being hidden, Kevin O'Connell's

972
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: not working some magic.

973
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 4: This is just Sam Donald playing Sam Donald football.

974
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: These are two of the best six quarterbacks in the

975
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: league based on how they've played over the last two

976
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: months and based on the numbers. Jordan Love is not

977
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: in your MVP conversation because the first half of the

978
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: season matters and he was hurting all that And I

979
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: think about this game the first time around, where he

980
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: was just coming off the injury, didn't look right.

981
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: They started out slow and they end up scoring a lot.

982
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: I think the way to beat Brian Flores's defense you

983
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: got to have someone back there, like a Gino.

984
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: Frankly that you don't need. Nate Tys has pointed this out.

985
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: You don't need to do all the play action that

986
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that can just win by dropping

987
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: back and throwing some missiles and knowing where to go

988
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: with the ball, and that is Jordan Love to me.

989
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: We'll see if he makes big mistakes. But the difference

990
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: that as good as Aaron Jones looks and he's running

991
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: downhill and it's a good enough running game, I think

992
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: he's running very well. I don't think they're as dynamic

993
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: upfront on the offensive line, and I don't think the

994
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: run game scheme, and ultimately, just overall, I think this

995
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: Packers running game is a little bit better better, and

996
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings defense is better overall too. So it all

997
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: evens out there, very even, and I'm leaning Packers because

998
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: I feel like they've got to get one of these

999
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: signature wins the key.

1000
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: Let's keep losing them. No, I don't know that's a

1001
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: stupid way to pick a game. No, I don't.

1002
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: I definitely don't think it is. But we saw it

1003
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: late then, and Matt Leffleer knows it. He knew it

1004
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: in training camp when it was very limited. We didn't

1005
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: see a whole lot of Josh Jacobs earlier in the season.

1006
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: There wasn't a success, but they knew what he could

1007
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: bring to this team and that's why they they've treated

1008
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: him the way that they have this season, and that's

1009
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: why he wasn't playing towards the end, which which makes

1010
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: perfect sense. He just he's he makes this game in

1011
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: this team.

1012
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 3: Different, absolutely, and it's a young group.

1013
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: They're they're up front there there, guys haven't gotten a

1014
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: lot of pop. Zach Tom, I think is a guy

1015
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: that could be getting Pro Bowl consideration, kind of the

1016
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: star that group, Elton Jenkins been there for a long time.

1017
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: And then it's going up against this group that Minnesota has,

1018
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: who's blitzing less lately because Van Ginkle's over ten sacks

1019
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: now and Grenard has been an incredible pickup and they're

1020
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: getting home without having to blitz. Josh Mattelis has been great.

1021
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: We've mentioned these names before, but last week really pointed

1022
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: out to me, like these guys have been together now

1023
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: for a minute, and they're all playing at a high level,

1024
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: so you don't want to take them for granted. It's

1025
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: a great opportunity really for both teams and for Tom Brady,

1026
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, in a big spot. If Minnesota loses this game,

1027
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: like they might not have a chance to get that

1028
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: one seed in the final week. So it really does

1029
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: matter a lot for them. Tom Brady is getting slagged

1030
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: on so much. I saw people complaining about him on

1031
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: Christmas and I was like, that's not Tom Brady.

1032
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: I guess they thought JJ Watt was Tom Brady or something.

1033
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: I don't even know.

1034
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: They're just like, I'm so probably was just one tweet

1035
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be responding to. But I saw like people

1036
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: were like, man, get Tom Brady off my screen.

1037
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 3: I was like, no, He's definitely not on your screen.

1038
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they were watching a different channel, they saw a commercial,

1039
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: or maybe.

1040
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: They were watching eighty for Brady, an underrated movie. No,

1041
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: I've never seen Ady for Brady. But I support Sally

1042
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: Field in everything that she does in all Endeavors.

1043
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: All right, that was our game of the week.

1044
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,520
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1048
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Speaker 2: The fans of the both Raiders and the Saints who

1049
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: support them in all Endeavors will be forced to watch.

1050
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: It's a very small broadcast window nationally, but around Las

1051
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: Vegas and Louisiana. You could see the Raiders favored by

1052
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: one and a half at the Superdome over under his

1053
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: thirty eight Adam and me and Mark Sanchez and Christina

1054
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: Pink I'll watch an Aidan O'Connell against Spencer Rattler. The Saints,

1055
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: the first team in twenty twenty four to be shut

1056
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: out last week, gregra.

1057
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 3: Your guy, Aidan O'Connell. He's just a scrambling fool.

1058
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: Now he can't be stopped. He's got a taste for blood.

1059
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Now you pointed out he had never scrambled, and now

1060
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: he's just scrambling all the time. He was kind of

1061
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: bad though in that game against the Jaguars, which they

1062
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: won anyways, but they are better with them. If I

1063
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: was writing and coming up with a way to get

1064
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: wholesale changes in New Orleans, and by that I mean

1065
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: getting rid of Mickey loomis like stopping this man from

1066
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: running this team like the.

1067
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: Mafia, this is how you would do it.

1068
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: You would have a primetime game where you get shut

1069
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: out and completely embarrassed, and then back that up with

1070
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: a loss at home to the Raiders. That is how

1071
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: you have wholesale changes. So if you're a Saints fan

1072
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: that actually want wholesale changes, I think this is exactly

1073
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: the spot for you to lose.

1074
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: And I think they will. I'm picking the Raiders again, yeah.

1075
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: I mean Saints fans thinking about and again we're in

1076
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: that situation where where teams are pulling for losses. Teams

1077
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: pulling for losses for change feels different to me than

1078
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 2: pulling for losses for hopes of draft value. But also

1079
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: it works in both of those capacities because that all

1080
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: those years of continued success precluded them from drafting early.

1081
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: Unless they're they're trading two first to go take Marcus down.

1082
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: The wrong year, that'd go five and twelve, They're not

1083
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: gonna have the high a pick. The Raiders could fall

1084
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: out of the top like nine if they win this game.

1085
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: It's crazy, all right.

1086
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: To another team that is looking at the Tekafon rankings

1087
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: and feeling good right now, the New York Giants playing

1088
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: host to the Indianapolis Colts, who were favored by seven

1089
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: and a half. Gregt the over runners forty and a half.

1090
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilda, and Megan A. Levy On this call, Greg,

1091
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: where the Colts and Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor ran

1092
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: all over the opposition last week, and here comes the

1093
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Giants defense.

1094
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: It's so funny good.

1095
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: I remember back in Week four or five, when none

1096
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: of the spreads were over seven and a half or

1097
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: seven or something.

1098
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: There's a week like that.

1099
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: And now we've got a deeply flawed Colts team who

1100
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: just gave up thirty points to Mason Rudolph and have

1101
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: a losing record, and they're favored by seven and a

1102
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: half and it doesn't feel like enough. You can't come

1103
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: up with enough points against this Giants team. I don't

1104
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: think we know who's at quarterback? Is are we back

1105
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: to de Vito? Who knows it doesn't matter? Imagine if

1106
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: Richardson had a good defense. I was watching that game

1107
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: last week, That's what I was thinking about. It was

1108
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: the perfect Colts game. Fifty rushes for three hundred and

1109
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: thirty five yards on the ground, and you think about

1110
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: those long tailor runs. That's all true, but they had

1111
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: a plus fifty percent success rate against one of the

1112
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: better run teams in the league. And you just think

1113
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: about how much differently we would think about Anthony Richardson

1114
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: if they had like the number six defense in that league,

1115
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: because then they could work. This whole thing would make

1116
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: more sense and it would work.

1117
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: But they don't.

1118
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: They do have their center Ryan Kelly back, so they

1119
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: have Ryman and then Quintin Nelson was making some great

1120
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: blocks last week and Kelly. All together, that's a really

1121
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: good side, and they were running to that side, and

1122
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: Kelly hasn't played all year. I think that was a

1123
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: big deal for them. So I think they're a better

1124
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: team now. Buckner has been playing great, the defense has

1125
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: been a little bit better in terms of making big plays,

1126
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: and so I do think this is probably the best

1127
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: version of the Colts team. We don't really know because

1128
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: they're just playing the worst teams in the league. They're

1129
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: probably going to get to nine to eight here. They're

1130
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: the team that's going to get in if the Broncos

1131
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: lose out. It's not going to be the Bengals.

1132
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: And so you pointed out him running the ball. Since

1133
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: Week eleven, he's been used on thirty two design runs.

1134
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: It's ten more than any other quarterback in the NFL.

1135
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: He's also forced a mistackle on twenty nine percent of those.

1136
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: He's special in space. I think this run game is

1137
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 2: an let's get them in the playoffs, because I want

1138
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: to see them against teams that aren't like the Giants.

1139
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: I think there's a realistic chance that it happens.

1140
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 4: Now.

1141
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: That would mean that the Chiefs, potentially their backups would

1142
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: lose to the Broncos if the Broncos lose out. And

1143
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: again I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth

1144
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: because I think the Broncos will win this week, but

1145
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: obviously that's a coin flip type of game. I do

1146
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: think the Colts are much more likely than the Bengals

1147
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: or the Dolphins to get into the playoffs.

1148
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 3: Let's just put it that way.

1149
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: And I do want to point out, you know, because

1150
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of the listeners are busy, they're

1151
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: wrapping presence. They didn't go back to grind that Colts

1152
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: and Titans tape. I thought it was a big moment

1153
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: for Anthony Richardson. They had blown that lead on defense

1154
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: and he had a third and eight just a straight

1155
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: drop back pass or else. They were giving the ball

1156
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: back to flying Mason Rudolph at the end of the

1157
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: game and he had to hit an out route to

1158
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman that needed perfect accuracy. No play action, nothing

1159
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 1: like that, and he hit it to win the game.

1160
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: So those are the kind of moments I think as

1161
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: a young quarterback that you're looking for. And I'm sure

1162
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen and Anthony Richardson when they were watching that

1163
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: playback felt awesome because it's like, that's what they're talking about.

1164
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: They need more of that, and he did it in

1165
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: the biggest of spots at the end of that game.

1166
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: So just a quiet, nice moment for him. Yeah, and

1167
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: not a lot of dropbacks in that game as well.

1168
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: Stat watchers, if you want to, you know, grade his

1169
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 2: growth as a passers. Speaking of growth as a passer,

1170
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 2: we have a revenge game. Well, it depends on how

1171
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 2: you view that. The Carolina Panthers at the Tampa Bay Bys.

1172
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: We're favored by seven and a half despite falling apart

1173
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 2: on the on Prime time against the Dallas Cowboys forty

1174
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: eight and a half. It's Iron Eagle Charles Davis and

1175
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: Evan Washburn on this call.

1176
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: Greg.

1177
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: We've seen the ups and downs with both of these

1178
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: teams in the past couple of weeks, both related to

1179
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys.

1180
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: On the down side, how does this one go?

1181
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks get it done seven and a

1182
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: half feels too much for the way that the Panthers

1183
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: are playing offense, But you do. I think of the

1184
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: Bucks as a good team, as a playoff team, and

1185
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: when you lose a game like that and you had

1186
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: a couple of games on the road, you come back,

1187
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 1: you would expect them to respond and play their best

1188
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: at home. Shout out to Iron Eagle though, talk about

1189
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: working a lot. I mean he was on that Netflix

1190
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Game Rights every Thursday night. When I'm leaving work after

1191
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: we tape game debut, check it out on NFL Network.

1192
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: I hear I and Ross Tucker. That's where I've really

1193
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: enjoyed his work doing Thursday night football. I'll flip on

1194
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: some NBA on TNT on a Tuesday, there is there

1195
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: he is. And then if I'm on League Pass and

1196
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: I just want to catch some Cam Johnson action with

1197
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: the Nets. He's the home announcer for the Nets too.

1198
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: This is the hardest working man in show business. And

1199
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: have you ever heard him had a bad game? Like

1200
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: He's always bringing it, so I know he's bringing it

1201
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: to this game.

1202
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons I took this game.

1203
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to be watching this on Sunday, because I

1204
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: think it matters so much for the Bucks. If they

1205
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: lost this game, it basically ruins their season. They need

1206
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: to win these two games and hope for a Falcons loss.

1207
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: And I watched it this game the first time around.

1208
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: It was very compelling. Bucks were very lucky to escape

1209
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: with a victory. I've enjoyed watching Bryce Baker and Mike

1210
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: Evans are a lot of fun. So I think this

1211
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: is actually the best game of the early window, and

1212
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: I took it.

1213
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: It's very difficult because even though right because James Connor

1214
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: only had fifteen carries as well over on yards against

1215
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: this Bucks defense, I mean this Panthers defense where there's

1216
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: been no change like a zero. Everro's run defense all

1217
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: season long, including this game against Bucky Irving and the

1218
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: Buccaneers not too long ago.

1219
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: He had one hundred and sixty three yards.

1220
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: That's how they came back.

1221
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: They did the rare two score like they did a

1222
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: comeback why running it which you don't see too much.

1223
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the difficulties there, it's tough to get any

1224
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: of those images out of my head. I think seven

1225
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: and a half, despite what Bryce and the Panthers have done,

1226
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: I think it feels right.

1227
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: I do.

1228
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: They have some weaknesses though, Tampa in terms of their defense,

1229
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: Levonte David has been getting picked on a little bit

1230
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: and coverage part of the reason. I think they have

1231
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: them closer to the line of scrimmage a lot of

1232
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: the time. Bryce is playing at a level now though,

1233
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: where I just feel like that's too much almost to

1234
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: give to I'm mean it, yeah, like if you have

1235
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: an above average quarterback and that's the way he's playing, like,

1236
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: that's a lot. And I remember before the season, ownership

1237
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: in Tampa said what do you need to see out

1238
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: of this team in terms of the coaching staff, and

1239
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: they said improvement And they went nine to eight last

1240
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: year and they made the playoffs, they won a game,

1241
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: and so I just think these two games are really

1242
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: important for Bowls in the future of that coaching staff.

1243
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: So it's a really compelling game bit of two fun sneaky,

1244
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: fun teams to watch all year.

1245
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: So a fun opportunity.

1246
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: And how about a great father son moment for Ian

1247
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: to have him call one game on Christmas Day and

1248
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: then Noah baby Bird calls the second game.

1249
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking back to where.

1250
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 2: It was it was Noah and Nate on that first

1251
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: Nickelodeon broadcast and just how how far both have come

1252
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: career rise.

1253
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking of Noah unlike the Cincinnati Open on

1254
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: the Tennis channel, we lost a good one when he

1255
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 1: was coming up. It's like, you know, he was having

1256
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: the slummet doing some master's level tennis. I enjoyed him,

1257
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: and now we've lost him. I know we're out far

1258
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: a field here, but just thinking fatherhoods on Christmas spent apart,

1259
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: but they were kind of together. The best Christmas present

1260
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: I got was from my son Walker, who's been waking

1261
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: up around four or five in the morning in Tokyo

1262
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: and texting me because he's got text on his iPad

1263
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: now there, and he texted me, hey, listen to your

1264
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: pod with Shook.

1265
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 3: It was good.

1266
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: That was the best president I got. And he's like,

1267
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: Shook is funny. I was like, he is funny.

1268
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: Walker's dialed in. He's diald in. I love it.

1269
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Miami Dolphins, who are favored by

1270
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: six and a half against the Cleveland Browns. Thirty nine

1271
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: and a half is the number. It's on CBS. Andrew

1272
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: Cattle on Tiki Barber, Jason mccordy and aj Ross on

1273
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: the call. We get to see Dorian Thompson Robinson play

1274
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: football again, much to the joy of Kevin Stefanski. This

1275
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: continues to happen, greg and the Dolphins have some hope.

1276
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, Jamis had a shoulder injury, which I didn't know

1277
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: about Little Mysterious Bailey ZAPPI was warming up to come

1278
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: into that game last week when dtr got hurt. I

1279
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: didn't know Jamis was listed as a shoulder injury, and

1280
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: that might be playing into the decision making there. But

1281
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: it's great news for the Dolphins, who need a lot

1282
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: of help to get into the playoffs but are still alive.

1283
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: Need the Broncos to lose out, will need the Colts

1284
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: to lose one of their two games too, and so

1285
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be tough for them to make it.

1286
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:32,959
Speaker 3: I'd rather use this time.

1287
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: Well, there's a few I find the Dolphins very interesting,

1288
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: but they finally ran well last week.

1289
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 4: That was good.

1290
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get rid of the positive sirst. Jordan

1291
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: Brooks has been a great pickup. That just struck me.

1292
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: It's been great. Bradley Chubb is not going to play

1293
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: football this year. That's just unfortunate coming back from his injury.

1294
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: They cut Shack Mason, I mean not Shack Mason, Shack

1295
01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: Barrett on Thursday. He's been trying to return from retirement

1296
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: and they gave him his release so he could possibly

1297
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: sign with another team. That's interesting. If just Shaq Barrett

1298
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: joins the Lions, Let's say they could use a pass

1299
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: pressure chop Robinson with a late push for defensive Player

1300
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: of the Year. It's a pretty wide open field. It's

1301
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: not that crazy. He's looked really good. Okay, those are

1302
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: all the good things. Uh, the Tyreek Hill stuff is weird.

1303
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: Have you been tracking this the it is time for

1304
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: me to go coach? Yeah, and then he that was

1305
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: weird and he said that wasn't about anything, although he

1306
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: has one of those weird tweets that he has to

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01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: explain every week, which is a bad sign.

1308
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: Well, he's in Miami. Teddy Bridgewater just coached as his

1309
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: team to a state championship. We'll talk more Teddy later.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe it was that.

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01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that was anything but the comments

1312
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: he made after last week's game where he blamed his

1313
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: lack of production on not practicing enough on Wednesdays with Tua.

1314
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 1: It's like these guys have practiced a lot together. They've

1315
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: been just something's odd. It was one of the worst

1316
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: games of Tyreek Hill's career last week. He is not

1317
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: winning in the same way that he has before. He's

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01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: had he's had a bad season. And I don't think

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: it's just the situation or too. It's he's had a

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Speaker 1: bad season, and following some of the reporting around there,

1321
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: I just don't think there'd be like a shock if

1322
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: this is his last couple of games as a Dolphin,

1323
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: and so I'm just kind of tracking that weirdness.

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01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 3: Whatever's going on. He'd still have trade value.

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01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely have trade I'd wondered if he was playing

1326
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: through something there was.

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Speaker 3: He mentioned that too.

1328
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: He mentioned the wrist injury that he suffered before the injury,

1329
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: but he just was made.

1330
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Speaker 3: It's just been weird. It's been weird.

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01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 4: It's been a it's been a whole weird year.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: In Miami, where there's decisions to be made, but at

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01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: least to us playing in that game, we could have

1335
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: a battle of backup quarterbacks coming. In the NFC East,

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01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys at the Philadelphia Eagles were face by

1337
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: eight and a half with the number being forty one

1338
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: Joe Davis, g Rag and Pam Oliver on the call. Greg,

1339
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of that changes if

1340
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: we don't know if number one is playing.

1341
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: For the funny you say that, I was like, that

1342
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: does not seem to make sense if Jalen Hurts doesn't play.

1343
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: Since this document was printed just hours ago, the number

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01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: is down to six and a half because we don't.

1345
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: Know if Hurts is gonna play.

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01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: If Kenny Pickett is starting, that number is too big.

1347
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have been one of the best

1348
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: pass rush teams in the NFL, if not the best,

1349
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: and one of the best pass defenses, and so you're

1350
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna make the Eagles really one dimensional. I believe if

1351
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is starting, and this could really be a

1352
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: competitive game. Heurts is still in the concussion protocol as

1353
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: we tape this, we don't know if he's gonna practice Thursday.

1354
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: Didn't practice Wednesday. Generally, if they're not practicing and then

1355
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: they're in the protocol, they don't play. Sometimes they're in

1356
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: the protocol but they are practicing, and then you get

1357
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: cleared on Friday or Saturday. It seems to be trending

1358
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: towards the former, but we don't know for sure. And

1359
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: that's it's a tricky game. I think with Kenny Pickett

1360
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: one I would think that Eagles could and should win,

1361
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: But a tricky game.

1362
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, Yeah, I guess the Cowboys team that just beat

1363
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: a Bucks team, that's right thick of the playoff hunt.

1364
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: It's not like the the Bucks Bucks were sleepwalking in there.

1365
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: The Dallas defense made plays to the extent where they

1366
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: were making plays with Dan Quinn and and now Zimmer's

1367
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: finally got the players.

1368
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: Back, I think, which is the most important part.

1369
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: But they're in positions now despite not even having the

1370
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: marve On overshown, which that that injury still.

1371
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: Hurts DeMarcus Lawrence or Trayvon Diggs.

1372
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 4: They like getting Deron blandback. Was was apparently enough? Where

1373
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 4: was it good?

1374
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: Where they're they're able to make these plays and you know,

1375
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: a full it's tough to get the full dynamic of

1376
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett because the backup coming in right, you've got

1377
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: your preferred plays.

1378
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 4: He runs those.

1379
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: He hits aj Brown on the crossle for a big

1380
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: first down, tries to do the same thing Franky Luvu

1381
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: picks them off coming back a couple drives later where

1382
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: it's he did make plays late, and there were drops

1383
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: by j Brown, Saquon Barkley, the most notable one coming

1384
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: from Devontae Smith. I don't think those guys are gonna

1385
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: have those types of problems, but it is still scary.

1386
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: It is, and yet, yeah, I wouldn't have expected you

1387
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: to be tuning in on Christmas Eve to shook an

1388
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: eye's recap. But Kenny Pickett did get my most controversial

1389
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: Captain Morgan Captain of the Week for his underrated play

1390
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: for when he came in, I thought he played pretty

1391
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: well and I think he I don't know if he's

1392
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna always play that well, but it is the Eagles

1393
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: which have the perfect situation for a quarterback. Their defense

1394
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: lost them that game and a couple other mistakes on offense,

1395
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: they started blitzing like crazy. It was really a weird

1396
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: performance by the Eagles defense. I don't think it'll happen again.

1397
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: This should be a defense in Dallas. Even though they're

1398
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: second in EPA per play against the pass since Micah's return,

1399
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: there's still average to bad against the run, and that's

1400
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: against an Eagles team, So that you would think they'd

1401
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: be able to mash it as long as Nick Sirianni

1402
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: doesn't get into a fight with someone. A report on Thursday,

1403
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: Love This Philadelphia inquires Jeff McLain, who has been at

1404
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: it a long time one of the best to do it,

1405
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: reported that zach Ertz and Sirianni had to be separated

1406
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: by Big Dom after the game on Sunday, after Sirianni

1407
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: made some derogatory comments to Ertz about his play in

1408
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: the game and that Ertz understandably did not appreciate and

1409
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: Big Dom had to get in the mix. And then

1410
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni got on a Zoom call to apologize to

1411
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 1: zach Ertz. Can you just make it through a week, Nick,

1412
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: without being the main character?

1413
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: Fum fact Big Dom actually did the it security on

1414
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: the call as well, just to make sure everybody was

1415
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: safe again a former Eagle where Nick Sirianni taking pressure

1416
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: off of office team once again by becoming a.

1417
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: Story they could be the first team to make or

1418
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: like win the super Bowl that changed their coaches, like

1419
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: they could win the super Bowl and they're just like, actually,

1420
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: we're just gonna make Fangio, the head coach it's just

1421
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: be less drama.

1422
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: But if it is not, Jalen Hurts, if can he

1423
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: Pickett starts this game, then Kellen Moore can get his

1424
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: backup quarterback revenge against Mike McCarthy and offer a you

1425
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: were holding me back all these things where I'm having

1426
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: to take another job with another quarterback, and then I

1427
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: get another job with another very good quarterback, but you

1428
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: this is all your fault. And the Eagles push with

1429
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 2: their back up.

1430
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: That's why Patrick gets the big bucks. It's the showdown.

1431
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: Who can coach up their backup quarterback better? Kellen Moore revenge.

1432
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: I love that angle to this game because there's not

1433
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: much else. Philly's pretty boxed out of this top seed.

1434
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: They definitely want to win this game to guarantee at

1435
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: least the two seed and everything, but they're pretty boxed

1436
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: down out. Unless the Lions and the Vikings lose this weekend,

1437
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We have two fun games to

1438
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: get to. That's gonna be it for our preview. But yes,

1439
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football.

1440
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 3: It's a good.

1441
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: One back on the only NFL daily ever to start

1442
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: with a recap and end with a preview. I don't

1443
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: know if there'll be anymore. I don't think so. This

1444
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: was a one of one, and so is this Sunday

1445
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 1: night football game.

1446
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: It is because it's a big game and everything that

1447
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: had to happen to make this game important happen. The

1448
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons make the decision to bench Kirk Cousins, put

1449
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: in Michael Pennocks junior, give him a game against the

1450
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 2: woeful Giants to get ready, because they knew the Dallas

1451
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: Cowboys were gonna beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and they

1452
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: were to have a big Sunday night football game Atlanta

1453
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: at Washington. Favored by four points, are the Commanders? Forty

1454
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: seven and a half is the number? Mike Rico, Chris

1455
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: Collinsworth and Melissa Stark on the call, Carrie Underwood in

1456
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 2: the pre game, and we get a great win greg

1457
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 2: with two rookie quarterbacks who are both very, very good.

1458
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 3: I love it.

1459
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: I want to speed through our recap show on Sunday

1460
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: night to watch as much as I can of this live.

1461
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: I think the number four is crazy. I think I'm

1462
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: leaning Falcons straight up now. If the Commanders had lost

1463
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: that game, which they probably should have against Philadelphia last week,

1464
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 1: this game might even have a little extra juice because

1465
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: Washington would be on the precibiss of falling out of

1466
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But what if I told you Patrick, Okay,

1467
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: there's a real chance they fall out of the playoffs.

1468
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 3: As it is, it's not that complicated.

1469
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: The Falcons win this game, okay, Okay, the Buccaneers win

1470
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: out against two teams that have nine wins combined. So

1471
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers beat the Panthers in the Saints, and so

1472
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers win out.

1473
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: Very reasonable, very reasonable.

1474
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: Then we got the Falcons next week against the Panthers.

1475
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: They take care of that game. At that point, Washington

1476
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: needs to beat Dallas to win and make the playoffs

1477
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: next week. It's a win or go home scenario if

1478
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: all that happens, and all of that is quite realistic.

1479
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: So if you're a Commander's fan and you're down late

1480
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: in this game, you are looking at a very realistic

1481
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: possibility that you need to beat a pretty frisky Dallas

1482
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: team lately who already beat you once to make Week eighteen,

1483
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, and to make the playoffs. So I like

1484
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: that this game has so much stakes in two rookie quarterbacks.

1485
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: The challenge, of course, for Michael Pennix is like, can

1486
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: I possibly measure up to in one of the best

1487
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback seasons we've seen. Jayden Daniels has been awesome.

1488
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:56,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough for Penis.

1489
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially awesome.

1490
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: Late against Vic Van Joe's defense that didn't have CJ.

1491
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson, and that's, you know, probably a reason that

1492
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: you end up with Zach vond on Jamison Crowder. But

1493
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: even then, if you go back and watch NFL Turning

1494
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: Point had a great breakdown of that throw from Jayden

1495
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: and Daniels. Jamison Crowder has barely passed the goal line

1496
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: on that and there is no part of Jamison crowded

1497
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: that's visible to Jade Daniels when he fires that ball

1498
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: into that window that ultimately goes to the game winning touchdown.

1499
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: He's thrown with anticipation. He's making plays with his feet.

1500
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: But there is a Falcons defense that has suddenly transformed

1501
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: after the by that's able to get pressure on quarterbacks.

1502
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: Jesse Bates back in space making plays. It's where they

1503
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: can set up and just we can see the full

1504
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: not full potential, because against it's just two games into.

1505
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 4: Michael Fennick Junior's career.

1506
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: But see a little bit more about what this Falcons

1507
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: team could have looked like, and maybe we'll be looking

1508
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: back and saying, Wow, if they start pennis earlier and

1509
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 2: they get into a better groove, they're in a better

1510
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: position here. But at least he has one one game

1511
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 2: of leeway before they did it.

1512
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: Well, they could be in the playoffs. So you win

1513
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: three straight here and they'll be in. They are tied

1514
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: at the top of the division, but they have the

1515
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: tiebreaker and so it's up to them. And these are

1516
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: two teams that I've doubted to some degree during the season.

1517
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: Washington without beating a lot of good teams. Atlanta never

1518
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: really bought them in general. And I've thought this was

1519
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: Tampa's division all along. And yet because of what you

1520
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: say defense after the bye, I think Raheem Morris figured

1521
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: some things out, kind of like the Ravens. They're not

1522
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: making the big mistakes. And now you're seeing some of

1523
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: their players like Ebiketty is playing well, Kayden Ellis has

1524
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: been really good on Blitz' has been had a really

1525
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: good season, Jesse Bates obviously making plays that I think

1526
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: they have a real chance to win this game because

1527
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: I look at the two running games and I see, Yeah,

1528
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels is so dynamic, he could go for one

1529
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: hundred in this game scrambling. But if I'm look at

1530
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: the two running games, it's not a fair fight. They

1531
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: have not run the ball well Washington for a while.

1532
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson. Last week even they put up thirty six

1533
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: points without running the ball to their running backs at all.

1534
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: And then you look at Bajohn Robinson, who to me

1535
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: is just like the best player in this game and

1536
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: is getting better and better every week. I think the

1537
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: run game makes more sense with Michael Pennix back there

1538
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: and him having a little more mobility to even get

1539
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: out to the edge on some of those outside zone

1540
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of inside zone two and it's

1541
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: play action. It just makes more sense. And I just

1542
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: think Bajon is so good right now that I think

1543
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: they can go just win this game on the backs

1544
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 1: of an epic Bajhon Robinson performance.

1545
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can. This Commander's defense.

1546
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: Since week eight, they're only allowing quarterbacks to complete fifty

1547
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: six percent of their passes. It's six point five yards

1548
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: per attempt. They've sacked the quarterback twenty times in that stretch.

1549
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: And as we talk about this Falcons defense getting better,

1550
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: the Commander's defense was woeful at the start of the year,

1551
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: but but their turnaround happened like in week five, six seven,

1552
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: they've been good and they've gotten even better of forty

1553
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: percent sex success rate in that stretch, and it's it's

1554
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: just a good game. It's a good game, and I'm

1555
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see.

1556
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: It is fun.

1557
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: Like Jaden Daniels, he was trying to be more patient

1558
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: last week. I thought in the pocket before I know,

1559
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: he had all those scrambled yards, and yet he was

1560
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: hanging back there and waiting for guys to get open.

1561
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 3: I thought that was really good. So the loser of

1562
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: this game is gonna be gonna be very very nervous,

1563
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 3: super nervous.

1564
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean Atlanta won't be I know Atlanta won't be

1565
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: out of it, but if they lose this game and

1566
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: Tampa wins, then they're suddenly on the outside looking in,

1567
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: and Washington could be too, don't don't. I know Commanders

1568
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: fans feel like it's different. It is different, and so

1569
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: they they probably will not lose out here. But I

1570
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: think this is a dangerous game. I think the falcon.

1571
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: They're catching the falcons at the wrong time.

1572
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: It would be awful, especially if a member of the

1573
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: owner team in Magic Johnson, who tweeted that they had

1574
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: clinched after that emotional win ten wins.

1575
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 4: Why not get you in. We'll see how things go.

1576
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: And speaking of not getting in a team that's been

1577
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: eliminated after losing in the Super Bowl in the closing moments,

1578
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers, playing host to the

1579
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, were favored by three and a half on

1580
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, which means Joe Troy and Lisa on

1581
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 2: the call they looked better in spots against Miami.

1582
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 4: Still lost though, Greg and the Lions are the.

1583
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 3: Lions they are.

1584
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: And you know, just as importantly it's MJD. Bridget Condon

1585
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: and myself on the call on Channel five kind of

1586
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: on the call. You know, we do the commercial breaking

1587
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: you're on the call, and then we're gonna come upstairs

1588
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: and do the podcast altogether as well. What a coup

1589
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: and so that'll be fun little programming note there.

1590
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 3: Revenge game, This truly is.

1591
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: I know they they set this up as the crown

1592
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: jewel of the Monday Night Football season. And unfortunately the

1593
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are not in the mix here. But

1594
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: I really do think the Lions feel like they missed

1595
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: a major opportunity to go win the Super Bowl last year,

1596
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: to blow a lead like that in San Francisco. Now

1597
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: they can get a little bit of revenge, and I

1598
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: do want to see how their defense specifically responds against

1599
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: a legitimate offense. It's gonna get increasingly tougher. Last week

1600
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: we saw him against the Bears, and frankly, even though

1601
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: they made a couple big plays like that's about as

1602
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: good as Caleb Williams has looked all season, they gave

1603
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: up a lot of yards. This is gonna be tougher

1604
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: because I know the forty nine ers aren't what they

1605
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: used to be. They're very short on the offensive line.

1606
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: They had a couple more injuries happened this week, so

1607
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: they're down three four starters on the offensive line. Okay,

1608
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: take advantage of this forty nine ers offense, because if

1609
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: you don't Debo looked pretty good last week and it's

1610
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: still pretty back there. We got some real, you know,

1611
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: legitimate players. I want to see their defense play well.

1612
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: That'll make me feel better about them going into the playoffs.

1613
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a It was an opportunity for Debo

1614
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: where when when Patrick Taylor is having to get to

1615
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: the majority of the carrieres, they just need Debo so

1616
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: much more now, perhaps in needing him, have utilized him

1617
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: in ways that that maybe could have been done earlier

1618
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: on in the season where it's it's Debo and George

1619
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: essentially in the passing game at a big game for

1620
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: Brock as well, because it's it's time and I think

1621
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: Brock's going to get his money from the forty nine ers.

1622
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that there's something for Brock to prove

1623
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: necessarily to Kyle and and also to the folks upstairs

1624
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: in John Lynch, but just another chance to get out

1625
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: there on national TV, I gainst a really good team

1626
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: and show to everybody watching and to all those who

1627
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: may say, you know, he's a he's a metric.

1628
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 4: He's a mechanic of.

1629
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: This system and his coaching staff, and the opportunity that

1630
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 2: he's a pretty good quarterback as well, and.

1631
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 4: I think he is.

1632
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: I swear Deebo just got faster, though again last week

1633
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: he's like breaking tackles. That's the most yak he's had

1634
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: in the game, and I don't know how long he

1635
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: like looked looked like old Debo. Pretty amazing. I don't

1636
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be, you know, a good matchup. On

1637
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, where the forty nine

1638
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: ers defensive line has been awful lately. Drake green Law

1639
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: is hurt and is not expected to play again this season.

1640
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa and that crew I think are playing through

1641
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: some injuries and just haven't been able to get pressure.

1642
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: So you would just assume if the weather's okay, the

1643
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: Lions will put up more than enough points to cover

1644
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: that three and a half that is, that is tasty.

1645
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: If if I'm looking at the number there, the three

1646
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: and a half for the Lions, I think it's a

1647
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: great spot. Though, if you made it this far and

1648
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: brock Purty's on your roster in fantasy, for him to

1649
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: put up about three hundred and fifty yards while trying

1650
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 1: to catch up in like a forty eight to twenty

1651
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: seven loss, you know what I mean? Oh garbage, Tom Brocker, Well,

1652
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: just all game, they're just gonna have to throw, they're

1653
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna be trailing, and he's gonna get protected better than

1654
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: he really should against this Lions defense. Which is not

1655
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: great shakes right now. And yeah, I think they could.

1656
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: They could put up some crooked numbers him and Debo

1657
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: and and the whole game. Why not even even like

1658
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: a forty eight to thirty one lost, something like that.

1659
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 4: Forty eight to thirty one something to look forward to.

1660
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: It gets a little wild there. Yes, that is it

1661
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: for NFL Daily on this Thursday. We did it, Patrick,

1662
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: first ever recap slash preview.

1663
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: We cover all the bases because we've we've got a

1664
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: five tool player m right here?

1665
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 3: Who's that?

1666
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 4: No?

1667
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 3: You Greg play? Play the music. We got Eric behind that.

1668
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 4: Greg's carry team on his back.

1669
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: No, we've We're not doing a Thursday night recap this week.

1670
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: Just a programming note. I can't believe we are here

1671
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: in the second to last week of the season.

1672
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: Yes, when the next games are on

1673
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: NFL Network triple header, you know football is back