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Speaker 1: Hello there, Happy Monday morning, and welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Chuck Podcast. I'm full disclosure when I'm taping.

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Speaker 1: It is Sunday evening. We are likely. It feels as

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Speaker 1: if there is real momentum to get a deal to

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Speaker 1: open the government. It seems like we're very close here

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Speaker 1: actually working a weekend.

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Speaker 2: The fact that the.

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Speaker 1: House of course hasn't been been around in weeks, but

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Speaker 1: the Senate actually, instead of going home for the weekend,

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Speaker 1: does appear we're close.

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Speaker 2: What is close? Is it going to be.

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Speaker 1: Later on Monday?

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Speaker 2: Is it on.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday clearly, I think the air travel threats however you

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Speaker 1: want to whatever you want to look at him. Those

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Speaker 1: Some Democrats say that Sean Duffy at the Transportation department's

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Speaker 1: playing politics. Sean Duffy says he's just taking He's just

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Speaker 1: taking his advice from the FAA. We hear at the

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Speaker 1: Check podcast, like Leland Viidder's idea from News Nation or

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Speaker 1: Leland suggested, why are we cutting any commercial flights?

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Speaker 2: First?

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Speaker 1: Cut off private air travel first. Let the rich people

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Speaker 1: have to fly commercial. They'll get angry at the members

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Speaker 1: of Congress that some of them think that they own,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it'll.

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Speaker 2: Get resolution even faster. That was a good idea.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why there hasn't been, especially both parties

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Speaker 1: I think we're close, and there's a variety of reasons

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Speaker 1: neither party can afford for this to drag on. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, Chris Murphy probably wishes he didn't

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Speaker 1: now it's to our advantage to keep the government closed.

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Speaker 2: You know, it is.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt there's a lot of progressives that are

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Speaker 1: putting pressure. Don't want Democrats to quote unquote give in

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Speaker 1: yet don't do this. This is you know, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I I've look, I'm not I have been wrong about this.

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Speaker 1: Democrats have had a stiffer spine than I expected. Part

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party is just a small group of people, right

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Speaker 1: Why the President is trying to play hardball with snap

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Speaker 1: So it is I think this is a case where, boy,

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Speaker 2: You know what has.

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Speaker 1: Made you know, what got Trump into power was him

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Speaker 1: this is just a head scratch politically, and it gets

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Speaker 1: they came across extraordinarily out of touch. Well guess what

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Speaker 1: Is he not fully briefed? Is he not getting a

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Speaker 2: Is the filter?

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Speaker 1: So I mean to think that he was more focused

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Speaker 1: in the same weekend that he says, don't even let

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Speaker 1: all attempts by states to fund snap benefits.

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Speaker 2: This is just really stupid politics. It just it hands.

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Speaker 1: And this goes back that this is a Republican party

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Speaker 1: that's still not comfortable being Trump's party at times, not

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Speaker 1: So it's been a it is. I think this is

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Speaker 1: weirdly the out of touchness of the Trump administration on

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, healthcare is going to kick our ass

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Speaker 1: in the midterms if we're not careful here anyway, let's

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Speaker 1: at least deal with the Obamacare premiums. Here, Democrats are

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Speaker 1: I mean, the political picture is bad enough that's being

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Speaker 1: And I think this is where, you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people distracted by Mamdani. Okay, and there's unfortunately

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Speaker 1: a lot of the political conversation is just completely distracted

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Speaker 1: by Mamdani. What happens in New York City is a

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Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be a lot of people trying

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Speaker 1: this is not the most important election. I know there

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Speaker 1: There are progressives that want Mom Donnie to be seen

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Speaker 1: there are folks on the cultural right that want the

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Speaker 1: it usually tells you more about their own politics than

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Speaker 1: be a puppeteer to Mike Johnson. He doesn't ever question

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Speaker 1: anything out of the White House. He doesn't ever question

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Speaker 1: any strategy. Essentially, they didn't he didn't want to be

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Speaker 1: here if it was all about squeezing Senate Democrats and

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Speaker 1: making this about Chuck Schumer. He went ahead and agreed

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Speaker 1: with the White House policy. Now, look, he wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: speaker without Donald Trump. So in some ways he understands

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Speaker 1: where his political bread is buttered, but he has put

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Speaker 1: he has made life so much harder for congressional Republicans

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Speaker 1: that are running for reelection or running for higher office.

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Speaker 1: And so this entire sort of three weeks, and I'd

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Speaker 1: say the last three weeks, right about the last week

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Speaker 1: before the elections, the elections themselves, we sort of saw

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Speaker 1: the test and then the bizarre reaction of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: where he you know, clearly is doesn't have he either

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Speaker 1: doesn't have grasp on reality or is trying to alter reality. Right,

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, given the president's age, none of us know

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Speaker 1: for sure what the situation is other than you know,

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Speaker 1: these little anecdotes. I mean, the same thing the right

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Speaker 1: used to beat up Joe Biden and show him forgetting words, mispronouncing,

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Speaker 1: calling things other things. Like Donald Trump last week went

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Speaker 1: to Miami to talk about South America and kept talking

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Speaker 1: about South Africa and he kept saying it over and

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Speaker 1: over again. Well imagine that Joe Biden thought, oh wait,

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Speaker 1: we did have moments where Joe Biden did this, and

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Speaker 1: it became a huge thing on the right. And now

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Speaker 1: you've got people on the right going, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: they're overdoing it. They're trying to make a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I saw somebody from the world of real color politics say,

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Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, mainstream media cares about this,

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Speaker 1: they didn't care about Joe Biden, of which I would say, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, do two wrongs make a right? You know,

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Speaker 1: if you believe there should have been intense coverage of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's mental declines while he's president, then of course

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Speaker 1: you should believe that another eighty year old president should

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Speaker 1: have get tough coverage that you were calling for before.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're a partisan, right, this is how you find

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Speaker 1: out who in the media is actually a partisan, right,

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Speaker 1: Why when they call for one thing when one side

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Speaker 1: is president, but then they complain when it's being done

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Speaker 1: to the other president. So you know, be careful letting

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Speaker 1: your bias show there. It's I would say, it's not

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Speaker 1: very clear which side, or maybe I would say you're

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Speaker 1: being really clear about which side of the aisle you're

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Speaker 1: trying to report from.

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Speaker 2: And I just come on, come on.

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Speaker 1: Now, we know a president falling asleep in the middle

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Speaker 1: of meetings is not a small thing.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a.

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Speaker 1: Big deal, especially a president that we know has been

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Speaker 1: mister energizer Bunny. So if suddenly he's not mister energizer Bunny,

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Speaker 1: then maybe we all are be concerned that something is

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Speaker 1: wrong here. So bottom line, I do think we are

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Speaker 1: in the very early stages of the Trump lane duck presidency.

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Speaker 1: It's not there yet. You know, he's he does have

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Speaker 1: too much executive power in too many ways, and he's

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Speaker 1: still good at being able to hijack a media, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of elected Republicans who are trying

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Speaker 1: to find a way out. How do they distance themselves

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Speaker 1: without full alienation of the magabase you're you're you're seeing

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Speaker 1: the tiptoes. And look, there's some other things that are

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Speaker 1: dividing MAGA right now to including the bizarre, the bizarre

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson. Like I, I sort of follow this. It's

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Speaker 1: funny to me that a whole bunch of conservatives are

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Speaker 1: just discovering now that that there's a Tucker, an anti

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Speaker 1: us experienced that anti semitism from that wing of the

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Speaker 1: party ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I have Look, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got their own information bubble, and maybe maybe they

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Speaker 1: been happening.

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Speaker 2: On the left.

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Speaker 1: Those that think it's only the other side literally have

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Speaker 2: And look we're going.

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Speaker 1: To go back and leaning in to November eleventh, right,

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Speaker 1: the eleventh hour, the eleventh day, eleventh month, every November.

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Speaker 1: You know, this was the real I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the real end of World War One. And those

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Speaker 1: of you that know me very well know what pet

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Speaker 1: peeve I am I'm about to go off on. But

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Speaker 1: this is the perfect time. This is essentially a plea

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Speaker 1: to teach World War one act more accurately than how

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Speaker 1: all of US Americans get taught World War One in school.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 1: Every November, we pause for this familiar ritual. The eleventh

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Speaker 1: hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, the

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Speaker 1: guns fell silent. The Great War was over, or so

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Speaker 1: the story goes. We call it Armistice Day, we renamed

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Speaker 1: it Veterans Day. But here's the thing. That famous moment

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Speaker 1: on the Western Front wasn't the true end of the war.

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Speaker 1: It was the biggest headline, but it wasn't the closing chapter.

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Speaker 1: Because twelve days before Germany surrender aboard a British warship

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Speaker 1: anchored in the Agency, another armistice was signed, the Armistice

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Speaker 1: of Mudros. And that one, that's the one that really

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Speaker 1: changed the world, and that's the one that still leaves

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Speaker 1: World War One unresolved to day. It marked the surrender

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Speaker 1: of the Ottoman Empire. It was the empire that had

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Speaker 1: ruled the Middle East for six centuries, six hundred years

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Speaker 1: of ruling, governed Jerusalem, Damascus, Bagdad, Mecca, and Istanbul. And

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Speaker 1: it collapsed almost overnight. When we commemorate November eleventh. We're

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Speaker 1: not just honoring the end of a war. We're marking

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Speaker 1: the moment when an entire world order vanished and left

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Speaker 1: a geopolitical mess that we still haven't cleaned up. So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that forgotten surrender, the one before the

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Speaker 1: one we talk about and made a national holiday. On

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Speaker 1: October thirtieth, nineteen eighteen, Automan officials met British admirals Somerset,

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Speaker 1: go Calthorpe aboard the HMS Agamemnon in the harbor of

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Speaker 1: the Greek island of Lemnos. They signed away an empire.

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Speaker 1: The terms were extraordinarily harsh. Allied forces could occupy forts,

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Speaker 1: control the Bosphorus and the Dardnellis, and moved troops anywhere

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Speaker 1: they deemed necessary. Within days, British and French soldiers were

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Speaker 1: marching into Istanbul Arab. Lands that had been Ottoman provinces

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Speaker 1: were carved up on European maps by November eleventh. Today

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Speaker 1: the world remembers the Ottoman state already existed in name only.

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Speaker 1: It was less a peace than a liquidation sale. The

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Speaker 1: Syke's picket lines drawn a few years earlier, those straight

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Speaker 1: colonial borders that paid no attention to tribes, sects, or

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Speaker 1: languages suddenly became real. France got Syria and Lebanon, Britain

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Speaker 1: took a rock Transjordan and Palestine. The seeds of modern

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Speaker 1: conflict were being planted even as the victory parades began

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Speaker 1: in Paris. So welcome to the unfinished war. We like

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Speaker 1: to think World War One ended, folks, It never did.

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Speaker 2: It metastasized.

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Speaker 1: The collapse of the Ottoman Empire created a power vacuum

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Speaker 1: that has never truly been filled. I argue that to

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Speaker 1: this day, World War One is an unresolved conflict, no

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Speaker 1: less unresolved than the Korean War. Every crisis you can

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Speaker 1: name in the modern Middle East, from Israel and Palestine

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Speaker 1: to the Sunni Shia divide in Iraq, from the Syrian

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Speaker 1: Civil War to Turkey's uneasy relationship with its Kurtis population,

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Speaker 1: all of it traces back to those few months between

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Speaker 1: October nineteen eighteen and the early nineteen twenties. Europe may

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Speaker 1: have stopped fighting, but the Middle East never got its

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Speaker 1: peace conference. It got foreign administrators, new flags, and a

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Speaker 1: ton of broken promises. The British had pledged independence to

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Speaker 1: Arab leaders who fought alongside Lawrence of Arabia. They had

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Speaker 1: also promised a Jewish homeland in Palestine through the Balfour Declaration.

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Speaker 2: Well guess what.

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Speaker 1: Those two commitments could not coexist and were still living

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Speaker 1: with this contradiction today. The French, for their part, wanted

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Speaker 1: to secure influence from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates, and

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Speaker 1: the Turks, stripped of an empire, turned inward, rallying behind

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Speaker 1: a young general named Mustafa Kamal ad Turk who would

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Speaker 1: fight to reclaim sovereignty and reinvent Turkey as a secular

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Speaker 1: republic by nineteen twenty three. It's fascinating to go to

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Speaker 1: be in Ankara. I've been there a couple of times

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Speaker 1: for work back in the day, and how important out

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Speaker 1: of Turk is. He sort of treated like the George

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Speaker 1: Washington now of Turkey there.

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Speaker 2: But it is as strange.

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Speaker 1: It's almost as if Turk, you know, Turkey became this

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Speaker 1: sort of modern country then. But it's weird to have

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Speaker 1: so little about the Ottoman Empire itself when you're there.

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Speaker 1: But the Caliphate, the symbolic headship of the Muslim world,

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Speaker 1: the Islamic world ever since as well. Here in the

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Speaker 1: United States, we teach World War One mostly as a prequel,

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Speaker 1: the war that made the next war possible. Right, I

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Speaker 1: promise you, all of you go back and think about

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Speaker 1: how you were taught World War One, and I promise

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Speaker 1: you you likely taught it like this. We talk about

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Speaker 1: German reparations, the Treaty of Versailles, the rise of Hitler,

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Speaker 1: all through the prism of Europe. We barely mention the

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Speaker 1: Ottoman empires collapse, even though it's arguably the most consequential

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Speaker 1: outcome of the entire conflict. We treat the Great War

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Speaker 1: as if it ended in the mud in France, not

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Speaker 1: in the deserts of Arabia or the streets of Istanbul.

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Speaker 1: Because guess what, it's not a clean history if you

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Speaker 1: have to go in there, because it's a complicated history.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about there's no clean narrative. There's not a

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Speaker 1: it's hard to find good guy, bad guy back and

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Speaker 1: forth here, black hat, white hat type of stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: simply competing betrayals in a century of falloup. But if

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Speaker 1: we're serious about understanding why the modern Middle East looks

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Speaker 1: the way it does, why its borders don't fit its peoples,

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Speaker 1: Why faith and nationalism remained so intertwined, Why outside powers

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Speaker 1: keep being pulled back in. We have to start with

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Speaker 1: the Armistice of Mudros, not the one at Campaignang. One

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Speaker 1: hundred plus years later, the ghosts of nineteen eighteen are

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Speaker 1: still arguing. Turkey is once again projecting power into its

657
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Speaker 1: old Ottoman neighborhoods, Northern Syria, the Caucasis, and the Balkans.

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Speaker 1: What President Erdowan openly calls a neo Ottoman vision, Arab

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Speaker 1: nationalism born in the ashes of the Empire that's faded

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Speaker 1: into sectarianism, and Israel and Palestine remained the unfinished ledger.

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Speaker 2: Of those post war promises.

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Speaker 1: The irony of Armistice Day is that it celebrates the

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Speaker 1: idea of finality, the notion that a world war could

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Speaker 1: end cleanly with signatures and silence.

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Speaker 2: We're so proud of ourselves about.

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Speaker 1: It, But the Middle East proves the opposite, that some

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Speaker 1: wars don't end, they just simply changed shape. The Ottoman

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Speaker 1: Empire fell, but the conflicts it managed among ethnicities, religions

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Speaker 1: and empires survived that fall. So this week, as we

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Speaker 1: mark Armistice Day, listen for the echo under that bugle call.

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Speaker 1: That's not just the sound of the guns going silent.

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Speaker 1: It is the sound of an empire collapsing, of maps

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Speaker 1: being redrawn, of the modern Middle East being born in chaos.

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Speaker 1: When we teach history in this country, we spend too

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Speaker 1: much time teaching about the Western Front. Maybe it's time

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Speaker 1: we also teach the Eastern aftermath, because the world that

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Speaker 1: ended in nineteen eighteen is the same one we're still

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Speaker 1: trying to manage today. And by the way, I believe

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Speaker 1: that the shocking amount of young people that don't understand

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Speaker 1: the history of the Middle East and think it all

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Speaker 1: began with a partition in nineteen forty eight by the

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Speaker 1: new United Nations. This is among the reason they're so

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Speaker 1: ignorant of that era because of how poorly we collectively

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Speaker 1: taught our own society about World War One. So, as

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Speaker 1: a Jewish American, I do get really upset and worked up.

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Speaker 1: And I've been a huge advocate and really believe we've

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Speaker 1: got to improve how we teach World War One larger

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Speaker 1: in middle school, in high school, not just waiting for

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Speaker 1: college to learn about the Ottoman Empire. It would have

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Speaker 1: a better understanding of the Muslim religion. We'd have a

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Speaker 1: better understanding of the Middle East. And yes, people would

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Speaker 1: have a better understanding of the history of the Jews

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Speaker 1: in Jerusalem. The Great War never truly ended. It simply

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Speaker 1: left us a lot of homework. There you go, there's

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Speaker 1: your Toodcast time Machine history lesson of the week. I

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Speaker 1: know we don't know the names as well. Doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like that history is as fun as watching a Netflix

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Speaker 1: documentary about Hitler and his goons. But trust me, you'll

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Speaker 1: understand the Middle East of today a lot better if

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Speaker 1: you spend some time learning more about the fall of

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Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire. All right, with that, let's take a

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Speaker 1: few questions ask Chuck as just This one comes from

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Speaker 1: Betsy w longtime follow here from your time covering elections

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Speaker 1: on NBC to Meet the Press to the Check podcast.

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Speaker 1: Can you please explain the rules of voting in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: specifically with regard to whine when a simple majority is

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Speaker 1: needed to pass something such as HR one versus the

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Speaker 1: Clean Resolution, which needs a sixty vote majority, and then

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Speaker 1: this is considered the filibuster. Thank you for including a

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Speaker 1: snapshot of sports on each show. Helps me keeping the

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Speaker 1: loop for some upcoming games. Take care so you know, look,

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Speaker 1: you have most of the time you need sixty votes

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Speaker 1: in order to avoid a filibuster. And once you avoid

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Speaker 1: what it technically is, it's not the legislation itself that

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Speaker 1: is subject to sixty votes. It is the rule, you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of the rule to finish the debate, you know,

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Speaker 1: to either start debate or end debate, that is subject

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Speaker 1: to the sixty votes unless and here are the exceptions. Now,

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Speaker 1: the exceptions have to do with budget reconciliation. If you

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Speaker 1: quote unquote do a reconciliation, so anything that impacts the budget,

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Speaker 1: you can make it a fifty vote threshold. And you

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Speaker 1: see Biden used that for his.

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Speaker 2: Agenda.

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Speaker 1: Trump used it in his first term for his tax cut.

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Speaker 1: Trump just used it with the Big Beautiful Bill. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: that is not how Barack Obama passed Obamacare. He had

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Speaker 1: to do it with sixty votes. He got sixty in

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Speaker 1: the Senate. Then they lost a vote in the Scott

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Speaker 1: Brown special election that got Scott Brown elected for the

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Speaker 1: Ted Kennedy after Ted Kennedy died in that seat, and

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Speaker 1: then he went down to fifty nine. And then that's

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Speaker 1: why all the action ended up in the House, and

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Speaker 1: the House had to basically adopt the Senate bill as

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Speaker 1: is when it was sixty votes. Now the other exceptions

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Speaker 1: to sixty votes now are judicial are all the judges right,

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Speaker 1: and now presidential cabinet appointee confirmations, all of this stuff

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Speaker 1: now has been they've essentially made it exempt from the

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Speaker 1: sixty vote debate threshold.

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Speaker 2: I hope that.

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Speaker 1: So anything that isn't part of a budget reconciliation process,

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Speaker 1: which again you have to declare that it's part of reconciliation.

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Speaker 1: So in theory, if you wanted HR one, the big

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Speaker 1: sort of campaign finance, if you can make a case

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Speaker 1: that it's part of a budget issue, you could in theory,

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Speaker 1: you know, tie some of it to budgetary And again

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Speaker 1: it's subject of the of the Senate parliamentarian determining whether

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Speaker 1: an issue is part you know, would be part of

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Speaker 1: impact the federal budget or not. And some of those

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Speaker 1: things in HR one clearly are not technically budgetary impactful

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Speaker 1: on the.

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Speaker 2: Budgetary side of things.

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Speaker 1: So I hope that cleared things up that essentially, anything

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Speaker 1: that isn't part of a reconciliation process or a confirmation

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Speaker 1: for an appointee, either to the president's cabinet or the

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Speaker 1: federal bench. Everything else is subject to sixty votes, and

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Speaker 1: the larger budget itself, you know, is subject to sixty votes.

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Speaker 1: It's only if you declare a reconciliation. Which it's sort

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Speaker 1: of an invented idea that started during the Robert when

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Speaker 1: Robert Byrd, an old timey Democrat from West Virginia who

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Speaker 1: was majority leader forever. He sort of created this process

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Speaker 1: when they thought things were you know, every time we

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Speaker 1: created these exemptions from the filibusters because perhaps the filibuster

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Speaker 1: was being was too effective. It was sort of grinding

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Speaker 1: things almost to a halt. And so whoever the Senate

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Speaker 1: leader is at the time, they look for a carve out.

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Speaker 1: The first carve out was the invention of this reconciliation process.

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Speaker 1: Then that's where you hear the bird is something called

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Speaker 1: a bird rule every now and then. If you've wondered that, well,

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Speaker 1: it sort of has its origin when Robert Byrd helped

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Speaker 1: sort of create the idea of a budget reconciliation that

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Speaker 1: could be exempt from the filibuster. And you have you know,

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Speaker 1: Harry Reid, and he did it for lower court, for

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Speaker 1: the lower courts, and then Mitch mcconnald did it for

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. So it is always wherever there has

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Speaker 1: been whenever a Senate leader feels as if they've gotten

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Speaker 1: to a point where it's clogged up their sides agenda

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Speaker 1: in one form or another, so we keep doing all

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Speaker 1: these I will just tell you, I'm somebody who thinks

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Speaker 1: it should be seventy five votes all for the federal bench.

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Speaker 1: And I it would you know, when we hold our

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Speaker 1: mythical constitutional Convention in the next couple of years, which

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Speaker 1: I hope is not mythical and actual real thing, that

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Speaker 1: would be an amendment that I would say, all, maybe

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Speaker 1: at least Supreme Court justices, maybe you start with that

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Speaker 1: are subject to seventy to three quarters votes in the

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Speaker 1: US Senate, and I promise you you would get more neutral,

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Speaker 1: truly neutral umpire referee style judges if we made it

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Speaker 1: seventy five votes in the Senate or three quarters whatever,

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent whatever, whatever. We probably have to do

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Speaker 1: a percentage, because you never know, if we had a

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Speaker 1: couple of states, right, you guys just learned both Puerto

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Speaker 1: Rico and DC, I think within my lifetime. So I'd

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Speaker 1: like to think I'm gonna last on this, on this

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Speaker 1: marble that we call Earth at least another three decades.

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Speaker 2: So I think in the next three decades we had

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Speaker 2: a state, all right.

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Speaker 1: I hope that helped, Betsy. And if you need more clarification,

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Speaker 1: shoot us another email and I'll clean that up for it.

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Speaker 1: Next question comes from Bryant. While the US Virgin Islands

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Speaker 1: may not meet today's population standards for statehood, they actually

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Speaker 1: have more people now than Nevada did when it joined

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Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds. To say, if combined with other

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Speaker 1: English speaking Caribbean territories like the British Virgin Islands, Antigua,

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Speaker 1: or Barbados, there could be enough population for a Caribbean

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Speaker 1: West Indies state. It could have strategic and economic benefits

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Speaker 1: for both the United States and those islands. Do you

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Speaker 1: think an idea like that has any merit even politically, Bryan?

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Speaker 1: It's interesting your idea putting them all together, and I

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Speaker 1: do buy that you if somehow they all did sort

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Speaker 1: of banded together and said, hey, we wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a country, you know, we wanted to be a or

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Speaker 1: we wanted to be a US state, I think the

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Speaker 1: United States would get more out of it, for sure. Strategically,

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Speaker 1: influenced in the Caribbean. But everything you just described, you

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Speaker 1: could also say maybe they become their own country independent

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Speaker 1: of either the United States or the Brits or anybody

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Speaker 1: else in Europe. Right, So that's another angle that can

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Speaker 1: go in. I just you know, I'm just sensitive, as

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Speaker 1: somebody who has been a resident of DC a couple

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Speaker 1: of times in my lifetime, I'm very sensitive to taxation

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Speaker 1: without representation, and I think when we just sort of

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Speaker 1: decide that status quo should be there for a long

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Speaker 1: period of time, like we've done to Puerto Ricans and

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Speaker 1: people that live on the US Virgin Islands or people

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Speaker 1: that live in the District of Columbia, that we ought

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Speaker 1: to be making a better effort to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to get them fairer representation. Next question comes from Brad.

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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 1: Just want to say I loved your election coverage. Thanks

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Speaker 1: as a politics nerd. I love the depth you guys

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Speaker 1: went into. Also loved all the guests. Great job all around.

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Speaker 1: Hope you three and others do it again for the midterms. Hey, Brad,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We're pretty proud of what we did.

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Speaker 1: Very little marketing, as you noticed, right, I marketed it

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Speaker 1: on the podcast Chris Marketed on his stuff Decision Desk

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Speaker 1: HQ did theirs. We believe we peaked with some like

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Speaker 1: nearly three hundred and fifty thousand at one time. We're

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Speaker 1: pretty convinced we probably had over half a million uniques collectively.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you put it all together throughout the evening,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the future is now. To quote quote

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Speaker 1: an old Washington football coach named George Allen, this was

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Speaker 1: this was basically a proof of concept, and I think

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Speaker 1: we proved the concept. And let me just say this,

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Speaker 1: I'll see a Texas primary night, that's the first primary night.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to do special coverage like that again.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, Brad. Next question comes from Colonel Steven

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Speaker 1: m Us, Air Force retired. Hey, big fan of yours

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Speaker 1: and curious if you can shed light on any reason

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Speaker 1: why the twenty twenty six federal appropriations haven't approved as

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Speaker 1: of today. I can't think of any and hope you

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Speaker 1: will share with us your thoughts. Well, why do I

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Speaker 1: feel like you're sort of tweaking here right like, why

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Speaker 1: can't they get any appropriations done? Why is it so

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Speaker 1: difficult to get the basics done with Congress. I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how weak Congress is, right, it is so

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Speaker 1: weak on this front, and the fact that they've allowed

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Speaker 1: the executive branch to take over spending issues, you know,

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Speaker 1: taxing authority when it comes to the tariffs. So it

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Speaker 1: is you know, they've they do. I think they got

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Speaker 1: the National Defense Appropriation A bill done.

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Speaker 2: I believe they got that.

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Speaker 1: You know, they do pass some you know, these appropriations

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Speaker 1: bills do get it passed chunks at a time, so

864
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: you'll get like, you know, dhs done, although I think

865
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: that one's gonna be a little tougher given given what

866
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: ICE is done, you'll get like specifics done. Usually defense

867
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: is the easiest one to get done. That's usually where

868
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: there's the most bipartisan you know, there's a reason the

869
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: military industrial complex is so successful. There are so many

870
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: congressional districts that have that have some impact on their

871
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: economy when it comes to defense that you see, that

872
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: is usually the one appropriations bill that gets approved and implemented,

873
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: but so many other ones sometimes never get implemented. They're

874
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: basically you keep the same levels of funding as the

875
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: year before and it keeps going through. So look, I

876
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: just think we've got Congress.

877
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: You know that we've had a.

878
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: Succession of weak speakers who maybe they're politically strong, like

879
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi was politically strong with inside the Democratic Party,

880
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: but all of these speakers were two week when their

881
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: party had the White House, and we're too willing to

882
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: give up certain things, you know, due to pressure from

883
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: their political allies in the executive branch. And you know,

884
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: you chip away, you chip away, you chip away, chip away,

885
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: and then you have a Then you suddenly are facing

886
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: the constitutional crisis that arguably we're in the middle of

887
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: right now, and that is very frustrating. Hey, colonel first,

888
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: just thank you for your service. And this trigger is

889
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: something else I wanted to share with you guys before

890
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I get into.

891
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: My football my football nuggets.

892
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Here for the weekend, I spend Friday evening at a

893
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: terrific event. Was a fundraiser called Vet's in Tech. It

894
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: was founded and run by this woman named Catherine Webster.

895
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: I met her at a fundraiser for the Medal of

896
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: Honor Museum a few months ago that was taking place

897
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: here in DC.

898
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't do a.

899
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: Lot of socializing in d C very much, just as

900
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: a journalist is always and everything has gotten so partisan

901
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: that I only like to try to go to things

902
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: where I think you'll be sort of above politics. Medal

903
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: of Honor fundraiser is one of them. In the Medal

904
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: of Honor Museum.

905
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: By the way, just.

906
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: You know, I as a sports fan, love to give

907
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: a lot of grief to Jerry Jones, right, He is

908
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: fun to give grief about. He's not been the smartest

909
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: of owners where he might be. No, actually I disagree.

910
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: He's been a great business owner of the Cowboys. He's

911
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: not the best general manager when it comes to the

912
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: on the field product, but everything he does off the

913
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: field is actually quite savvy, quite smart. He and his

914
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: daughter Charlotte Jones, have been big supporters. They essentially the

915
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: money that was raised for the Medal of Honor Museum.

916
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: It is essentially on the campus of AT and T

917
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: Stadium there in Arlington, Texas. I think it's a terrific

918
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: idea to take something of historical importance like a museum

919
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: that honors our Medal of Honor recipients, which every story

920
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: if you've ever read just one, you know, if you

921
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: want to if you're ever feeling really shitty about yourself

922
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: or really shitty about the country. Go just read any

923
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: citation for a Medal of Honor winner. I mean you

924
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: could literally pick one at random and you'll see like,

925
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, how selfless they were, Oh my god,

926
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: they saved how many lives? Oh my god they did?

927
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: What you know, if you're into Marvel superheroes, these people

928
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: are real superheroes in the Medal of Honor Museum. So anyway,

929
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: I say all that, it's just to give you a

930
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: little bit of backstory of how I got involved, and

931
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: Katherin Webster asked me to come out and say a

932
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: few words. Now, I'll be honest, I didn't. I didn't

933
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: feel qualified. I haven't served. But I am somebody who

934
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: believes that we need more veterans and more walks of life. Now,

935
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: this was a fundraiser that was for, you know, encouraging

936
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: the tech community to recruit and hire veterans. But really

937
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: what I decided to use my time to do is

938
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: basically making a case that we need veterans in a

939
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: in a in a bunch of walks of life. And

940
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: you guys have heard me talk about it before, but

941
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, we've got a trust deficit in this country.

942
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: We've got to trust deficit in my.

943
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: Industry, in the media, and I'm you know, I believe

944
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: that in order to restore trust, we have to start locally, right.

945
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: It's ground up, Frankly, it's everybody has to. When you're

946
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: rebuilding trusts, you start from the bottom, right, So we

947
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: and media have to start local. In politics, you've got

948
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: to start at the city council level, right, you know,

949
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But we do have one entity,

950
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: and hopefully it doesn't get messed up by the current

951
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: leadership right now. But the one institution in America that

952
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: still has an enormous level of trust is the military,

953
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: particularly military veterans.

954
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: You know.

955
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: It's it's I I think been one of the great

956
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: things that have changed about our society that we have

957
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: We as a society collectively have compartmentalized the decisions civilians

958
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: make in misusing our military, say the Vietnam or the

959
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Iraq War, from those who are following orders and who

960
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: are you know who who you know, they didn't make

961
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: these political decisions, but they had to execute a decision.

962
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: Under under our constitution.

963
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: And we have figured out how not to punish veteran

964
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, we weren't look as I say, my father's generation,

965
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: my mother's generation, they were you know, that is not

966
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: how Vietnam soldiers retreated. They were sometimes held seen as

967
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: to be held as accountable as the civilian leaders who

968
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: led us into that horrible conflict. I think we've now matured,

969
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: frankly as a society and see it that way. But

970
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: the reason that I want to see more and the

971
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: way I called it, the reason I want to see

972
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: more veterans, and I think we could. You know, the

973
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: one candidate for president that I thought could have broken

974
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: through both the Democrats and Republicans, could have broken through

975
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: as an independent was Bill McRaven. He was the of

976
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: course he was. He's retired admiral, but he was. He's

977
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: the architect of the Bin Laden raid, sort of oversaw

978
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: what Seal Team six accomplished. He when he left the military,

979
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: became the chancellor of the UT system, and he also

980
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: gave one of the great commencement addresses of all time,

981
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: the Make your Bed Speech. He turned it into a book,

982
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: but I promise you, if you want to go look

983
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: at it on YouTube, you'd be one of twenty million

984
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: people who have who have watched his make your Bed Speech.

985
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: But the reason I thought we needed him is because

986
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: I do think we need a lesson that we don't.

987
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: We need what I call pastors for patriotism. And that

988
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: was my you know, we need veterans in the classroom

989
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: who can be you know, I'm not a religious person,

990
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: but so that's why when I say, you know, in

991
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: some ways I worship our constitution, right, I do. I

992
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: think it's a marvel and I think that it gives

993
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: us all the tools for self governance that there is,

994
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: and I think we could make some improvements to it.

995
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: And you know, I think we should have a constitutional convention.

996
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: It's time to update the constitution for the twenty first century.

997
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 1: I think there's bipartisan agreement that there's plenty of things

998
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: we can do in there. Let's contemplate age limits, let's

999
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: contemplate term limits, let's contemplate campaign finance reform. Let's contemplate

1000
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: a violence budget amendment. There's a lot of things here

1001
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: that I think we should we should be thinking about.

1002
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: But it seems to me that we keep trying our

1003
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: two political parties keep trying to paint the other side

1004
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: is unpatriotic. Let me just tell you what patriotism is

1005
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: patriotism is waiving the flag, and patriotism is burning the flag.

1006
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: Patriotism is flipping off the president, and patriotism is.

1007
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: Saluting the president. Right.

1008
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: That's what made makes our country different, Right, It's we

1009
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: were an idea and we were wanted to have essentially

1010
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: free will and self governance and self determination. And that's

1011
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: the beauty of our system at its best. And I

1012
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: think it is members of the military who are sometimes

1013
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: forced to be in a platoon with people that don't

1014
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: look like them, that don't worship the same God, that

1015
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: don't live in the same you know, urban America or

1016
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: rural America. They're all US soldiers, and the experience over

1017
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: time of figuring out how to work with the diverse

1018
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: set of fellow Americans only makes you.

1019
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: The potential.

1020
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: I think that's why our American veterans, and on this

1021
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: Veteran's Day, our American veterans can be the pastors for

1022
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: patriotism that we need to essentially not allow a political

1023
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: party to hijack patriotism, not allow a political party to

1024
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: hijack the flag, and instead sort of teach what this

1025
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: constitution is about. But I think that you know, you

1026
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: bring a veteran into your workforce, whether it's a teacher,

1027
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: whether it's at a tech company, whether it's in a

1028
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: media company, and you're going to automatically diversify the experience

1029
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: of your workforce. And if you're looking for somebody that

1030
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: is going to be able to be handle high pressure

1031
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: situations or uncomfortable situations, a veteran is more.

1032
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: Likely to be able to do that better than anybody else.

1033
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: But I also think that a veteran has the ability

1034
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: to culturally help us all appreciate what the idea of

1035
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: America is in its best form. So it's yes, it's

1036
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: a fundraiser. You can say I'm being a little sappy here,

1037
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: but I mean it here. I think that there's something

1038
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: about going through and it's why I think national service

1039
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: could be such a help. We could take mandatory national

1040
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: service and go beyond just the military with where you

1041
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: would serve Serve in classrooms, serve in river cleanups, serve

1042
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: in community hospitals, serve in community centers that help people

1043
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: find work.

1044
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: Things like that.

1045
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: Having rural twenty one year olds and urban twenty one

1046
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: year olds working for a common good and for the

1047
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: same goal, I think it would help us all appreciate

1048
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: just the ideal and the idea of America.

1049
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: So there's my there's my Veterans State pitch for you.

1050
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: All right with that, let's have a little lightness here

1051
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: and let's talk a little football. First of all, I

1052
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: was down. I just saw my beloved Miami Hurricanes again,

1053
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: back to back weeks. They won after another sluggish first

1054
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: half with terrible play calling. Now I was not there

1055
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: for the terrible play calling in the first half. I

1056
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: was there to see my daughter get honored during one

1057
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: of the commercial breaks in the first quarter. She's part

1058
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: of the homecoming committee.

1059
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: She put on.

1060
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: This was the U one hundredth. It's the hundredth anniversary

1061
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: of the University of Miami. This was the one hundredth homecoming,

1062
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: so it was pretty special that my daughter, being a senior,

1063
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: got to essentially help organize it. She her fingerprints were

1064
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: all over the campus. It was kind of cool to

1065
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: see that. So I'm pretty proud of her. It was

1066
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: neat to see her get honored on the field. Her

1067
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: old man's never been honored at a University of Miami game,

1068
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: so it's she She was beyond ecstatic, and so was I.

1069
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad we won.

1070
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: She was not happy when Miami lost SMU last week,

1071
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: worried that somehow fewer people show up. And it's possible fewer.

1072
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: I think the stands were a little less filled than

1073
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: they would have been had Miami only had one loss

1074
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: versus two, and the perception that we're out of the

1075
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: college football playoff.

1076
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: And I'm going to get to that in a minute.

1077
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: By the way, I should.

1078
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: Note Central and Western New York football teams ought to

1079
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: ought to not come down to Miami in November. Syracuse

1080
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: got a butt weapon by the University of Miami, and

1081
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: then the Buffalo Bills come down and get their butts

1082
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: handed to them by the Devon A Chainers, and and

1083
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: what's left of the Dolphins, even after they traded away

1084
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: their best pass rushers. So just a tough time for

1085
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: the Central and Western New Yorkers there when it comes

1086
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: to the football field. But look, a few things happened

1087
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: that might that at least made it.

1088
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1089
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: I've said Miami's chances of getting into the a SEC

1090
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: title game, which is really the probably the only shot

1091
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: they have of getting into the playoff, given how the

1092
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: committee decided to treat Miami in the first week. They've

1093
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: set it up so that Miami that Notre Dame despite

1094
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: losing to Miami. If Miami and Notre Dame have identical records,

1095
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: they're going to take Notre Dame.

1096
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1097
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: They've started them. It's almost like they under ranked Miami

1098
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: on purpose. They had no business being ranked as low

1099
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: as they were. I am curious to see if there's

1100
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: a real correction made. And they're in the thirteen fourteen,

1101
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: fifteen range, which which I think is the minimum they

1102
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: should be. You know, I think that when you look

1103
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: at and this gets at to the great debate of

1104
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: committees in general. Right, when you decide these things, what

1105
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: matters more your wins or your losses?

1106
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: Right?

1107
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: Is it better to have a good win or is

1108
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: it better I have a good loss? And you know

1109
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 1: how it works, if you want to get your team

1110
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: into the mix, you talk about the thing that you

1111
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: think is the best thing.

1112
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: Right.

1113
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: So Notre Dame doesn't have any good wins, but they

1114
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: have two great losses, right, four total points to Miami

1115
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: in Texas A and m Miami doesn't have two. You know,

1116
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: they don't have bad losses. They're confident to me, when

1117
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: you lose a conference game, to a winning program. Those

1118
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: aren't bad losses because conference games are just harder. I know,

1119
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: the SEC thinks it's the only football conference that exists.

1120
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: Every football conference, all conference games are hard, and all

1121
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: conference games ought to be treated sort of similarly, as

1122
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, Greg sink in Mississippi State. And if you

1123
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: think that's a tough conference game, well, okay, I'll accept

1124
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: the premise. So's playing at wake Forest.

1125
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: Okay.

1126
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: And just because you don't respect wake Forest doesn't mean

1127
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: when you have to play them every year.

1128
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: They don't bite you in the ass.

1129
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, conference matchups are hard, hard stop and Miami basically,

1130
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, had like nine turnovers in those two games,

1131
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: and that's why they lost, right, And they were still

1132
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: both games that they could have won on the last possession.

1133
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 1: So are those good losses bad losses? Right? You see

1134
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: where I'm going here. I make no apologies. I think

1135
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: this coaching staff let this team down. I think this

1136
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: I think our offensive game plan sucks. I think the

1137
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: only reason why Miami scored a bunch of points in

1138
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: the second half of that game is sort of the

1139
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: the floodgates open thanks to the defense. They got to

1140
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: pick six and then then suddenly they used essentially every

1141
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: trick play that that Shannon Dawson has come up with.

1142
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: They used. They had a.

1143
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: Malachai Tony threw a pass to Carson Beck, Carson Beck

1144
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: to would tackle eligible play to to Francis Mayonoa, who's

1145
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: going to be a first round draft choice next year

1146
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman. So that's uh, you know, those

1147
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: were fun to see, but they were kind of you know,

1148
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: they were still you know, the regular game plane didn't

1149
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: really work.

1150
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: They did have to do a bunch of these.

1151
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: Sort of trick plays to sort of open the offense up.

1152
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 1: I appreciate that some efforts were made in the second

1153
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: half to do that, but there's still the basic formations

1154
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: and the basic offense is. It's just pretty predictable, and

1155
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: the more it's on film, the more teams seem to

1156
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: be prepared for it. And Syracuse in the first half

1157
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: was extraordinarily prepared for the normal Miami offense. And then

1158
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: by the second half, when they got worn down a

1159
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: little bit and Miami started doing a few trick plays,

1160
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: then things started to work. Now I'm a little frustrated

1161
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: that they made a real effort to get the ball

1162
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: to Malachai Tony in any way they could possibly get

1163
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: to him in this game? Where was that in the

1164
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: Louisville game? Where's that been in the last six weeks?

1165
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 2: Right?

1166
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: Not enough of that? That's number one. And then to

1167
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: really rub salt in the wound the last play of

1168
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: the game, Miami's winn thirty eight to ten. Miami had

1169
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: the ball and the last play of the game, they

1170
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: didn't take a knee. They ran the ball. They didn't

1171
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: need to do that. They were up twenty eight points.

1172
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: But you take a knee when the game is tied

1173
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: and you have twenty five seconds and one timeout. I

1174
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: am never going to forgive that Miami coaching staff and

1175
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: coach Crystal Ball for taking a knee and the explanations.

1176
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry local media has not been tough enough on

1177
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: this question. Coach Crystal Ball's response on this has been terrible.

1178
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: When he said, it's well, we just determined that anytime

1179
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: you're in the twenty five yard line or closer to

1180
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: the gold line, only bad things can happen. Well, if

1181
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: that's what you claim, and that's why you took a

1182
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: knee in the SMU game, which I think, again the

1183
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: single worst decision that's been made all year long by

1184
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: the coaching staff taking a knee with twenty five seconds,

1185
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: game tied and a timeout, and all you need is

1186
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: forty yards. All you need is forty yards to get

1187
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: the to attempt the game winning field goal, and you

1188
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: don't do it when college rules where the clock stops

1189
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: after every ten, after every first down, and you don't

1190
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: do that. What you really message, you're really sending is

1191
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: you don't trust this quarterback. Well, then what do you

1192
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: spend the money on. If you don't trust, let him

1193
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: succeed or fail on his own. This trying to sort

1194
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: of manage risk, manage your way around a quarterback that

1195
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: I guess you guys don't trust, is no way to

1196
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: win a championship. It's no way to get yourself in

1197
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: the playoff. Now, as much as I'm going to give

1198
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: this coaching staff grief on what I think is under

1199
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: performance by them holding back a team that is arguably

1200
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: the most talented in the country, I'm also going to

1201
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: argue that you can't have a media company deciding who

1202
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: gets to be in the college football playoff, because if

1203
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: they do take ten and two Notre Dame over ten

1204
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: in to Miami only doing it because of TV ratings

1205
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: in their heads, right, and it's just the bigger program.

1206
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: Because I promise you if it were ten and to

1207
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: anybody else and ten and to Miami, they probably would

1208
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: take Miami. But they can't do that to a Notre Dame.

1209
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: They're not going to do it to an Alabama. They're

1210
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: probably not going to do it to Georgia, certainly won't

1211
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: do it to an Ohio State. It's worth noting that

1212
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: Miami is the highest rated ACC team when it comes

1213
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: to TV ratings.

1214
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: How do we know this?

1215
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: Miami is getting the biggest bonus because ACC has is

1216
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: giving bonuses to the teams that get the best ratings

1217
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: to sort of quote unquote have extra value on their

1218
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: football program. So but if Miami wants to get to

1219
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: the ACC title game, they did get a few breaks

1220
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: Uva losing. They need all of these teams that lost

1221
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: this weekend. They all have to lose again. I mean,

1222
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: that's what makes it difficult. But hey, at least they

1223
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: got a couple of losses in now. I certainly would

1224
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 1: have liked to have seen Penn State finish up Indiana,

1225
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 1: and I really wanted to see iowall beat Oregon to

1226
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: potentially limit the Big Ten to two, you know, to

1227
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: open up the door to maybe they only get two.

1228
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: I think they're only going to get three at the

1229
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: end of the day, but we'll see. But that both

1230
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: of those games I think needed to go the other

1231
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: way to to sort of open the door up a

1232
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: bit more for them to where the committee has no

1233
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 1: choice but to take Miami. But look, whatever they do

1234
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: with this football playoff going forward, the NFL doesn't have

1235
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: a committee to decide who's in the playoffs because if

1236
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: they did, Dallas would be in the playoffs every year, right,

1237
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: regardless of their record, because they're the TV They're the

1238
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: ratings juggernaut. The Jacksonville Jaguars would never make it to

1239
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: the playoffs, right. The Houston Texans would never make it

1240
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. So whatever it is, I would just

1241
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: like it to be decided on the field. If you

1242
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: win X number of games you get to you know,

1243
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: you can qualify. And if you do finish this place

1244
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: in your conference, you can qualify. And if you want

1245
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: to say each year before the season starts and say, okay,

1246
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: this year, based on last year's record, this year, this

1247
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: conference is only going to get three slots into the

1248
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: playoff instead of four, you know, is a form of

1249
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: quote releg you know, this year due to their past records,

1250
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: conference A gets five slots instead of four, or three

1251
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: slots instead of two, or something like that. Whatever it is.

1252
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: There should just.

1253
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: You should be able to you either play yourself in

1254
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,839
Speaker 1: or play yourself out. It shouldn't be subject to lobbying

1255
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: campaign by Greg Sanke, the chairman of the SEC. And

1256
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: that's or a media company who's in business and cares

1257
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: more about the profitability of one conference over the profitability

1258
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: of another business partner that they don't value as much. Anyway,

1259
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: it was kind of a you know, I think we

1260
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: all were hoping for. I will say this that catch

1261
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: in Indiana. We watched that just before the kickoff to

1262
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: the Miami game. That kid made an amazing catch.

1263
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: And then I.

1264
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: Watched the end of the Iowa organ game where the

1265
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: i was trying to go for two point conversion. And

1266
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to talk about the quote

1267
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: unquote game of inches, just take those two highlights. Indiana's

1268
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: successful touchdown and the toe tap Iowa's unsuccessful two point

1269
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: conversion which ultimately cost them the game. Since Oregon was

1270
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: able to kick a field goal to win the game

1271
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: rather than to just tie. Was missed by essentially two inches.

1272
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: So another reminder to just how fun, crazy and cool

1273
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: college football can be. Look, I don't know about you, guys.

1274
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: I didn't learn anything new about everybody other than I

1275
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: thought we'd get a better effort out of I LSU

1276
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: and Garrett us My. We didn't get that better effort.

1277
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: I think we did expect a good effort out of

1278
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: Penn State. By the way, imagine if the interim coach

1279
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,879
Speaker 1: had knocked off a top five team, but James Franklin

1280
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 1: could never be a top five team. In some ways,

1281
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: there's probably relief in the James Franklin camp that Penn

1282
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: State came up just short on that game. BYU was exposed.

1283
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: That's going to be the interesting thing on the college

1284
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: football players. So BYU got its first loss, and this

1285
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: is one of those Look, they only have one loss.

1286
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,799
Speaker 1: Are they going to be ranked behind Miami or above Miami?

1287
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you're going to be the subjective game

1288
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 1: and if you're holding Miami accountable in the ways that

1289
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: they're being held, which I think is sort of every

1290
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: standard is different based on the team they're looking at, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what's my frustration. There's no it's so subjective that

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Speaker 1: there's not a consistent measurement of how one team is

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 1: assessed versus another.

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 2: Team is assessed.

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01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: And yes, BYU seems to have gotten lucky, just like UVA.

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Speaker 1: Luck finally ran out right. They didn't lose any fumbles

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01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they lost three fumbles in that game.

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see if AYU is below Miami

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Speaker 1: or above Miami and the college football rankings. That will

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: tell me how realistic it is that Miami has a

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01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: shot at somehow sneaking in or not. And does Vanderbilt

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: at all move up or down based on it surviving

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: that game with Auburn. Obviously a loss would have knocked

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01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: them out completely. That was another game that frankly, it

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01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: was kind of hopeful just to you know, at this point,

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01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: I got to get anybody who's going to share a

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01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 1: record with Miami out of the way from an SEC

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Speaker 1: or a Big ten school if I'm going to have

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: any hopes of that committee having to be stuck to

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01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: have to invite Miami when all is said and done, so,

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Speaker 1: all in all, a successful trip because my daughter was

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: honored on the field. I don't care what the score

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01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: was beyond that she did a great job. It was

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: a bang up homecoming and in fact, she convinced the

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01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: school to minimize the use of fireworks and instead use

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: drone do a drone light show and the biggest hit

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01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: of homecoming weekend was the drone light show.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: Go find all things having to do with the universe.

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 1: Remind me homecoming and the drone light show on Instagram,

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01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: and trust me, you will be impressed, and you will

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: realize why are any of us bothering with fireworks anymore?

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: The coolest ways to do displays in the sky are

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: are these drone light shows? All Right, I've rambled on

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01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: long enough. I hope you enjoyed your weekend. Let's hope

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Speaker 1: by the next time we talk in the next forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours, the government is open and air travel is smooth.

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Speaker 1: And with that, I'll see you when we upload again.