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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by Calllia Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome in as we sit here for a

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition if One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 3: For those of you watching, it's a red day here.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you got the memo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 2: We really are not at liberty to wear much green

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Speaker 2: on this day because we have a green screen behind us.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you in the media world that

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Speaker 2: are aware of what that means, it means if we

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Speaker 2: were green shirts today, we would look like a pair

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Speaker 2: of floating heads. As set behind us, as virtual soon

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Speaker 2: to be physical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna change everything there. Yeah, we're switching it up.

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Speaker 3: New stadium, new set for us, new stuff going on.

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Speaker 3: It's we've been told, although it's been for quite some time,

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Speaker 3: that we're gonna get something new and different. It's I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I'll believe it when I see it.

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Speaker 3: Let's just put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope we don't wait as long for a.

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Speaker 2: Phone what I said, Let's hope we don't wait as

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Speaker 2: long for a phone line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly to get our listeners back on the show.

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Speaker 2: So we've got plenty to discuss today. There is there

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Speaker 2: are some seismic moves being made in the NFL via trade,

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Speaker 2: and there's also stuff going on with the bills. Because

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Speaker 2: late yesterday afternoon, well before we get to that, Steve

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Speaker 2: to his credit, has accepted responsibility for the snowstorm last

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Speaker 2: night that we got.

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Speaker 1: Here in western New York.

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Speaker 2: It was snowing sideways, wind blowing in excess of thirty

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Speaker 2: miles per hour. It is on March sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: Completely my fault. Let me apologize to the public at

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Speaker 3: large for my huge mistake in taking the snowplow off

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Speaker 3: the front of my gator that I used to snowplow

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Speaker 3: my drive.

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Speaker 1: He did that on March fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: I did it on a fourteenth. Took it off, thought

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Speaker 3: I was okay, thought it would just be a smattering

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Speaker 3: of snow from this point out, And obviously I was wrong.

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Speaker 3: And because of my premature spring move, we got hammered

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Speaker 3: by a snowstorm. And it's obviously it's my fault that

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Speaker 3: that happened. So I apologize to all those people out

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Speaker 3: the ditch last.

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Speaker 1: Night, or who's swearing about the weather.

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Speaker 3: It's my fault. I apologize it. I drove to the

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Speaker 3: airport last night. Uh and on the way up Transit

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Speaker 3: Road and on the way back on the one night

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Speaker 3: kind of transit was awful. Yeah, it was horrible out

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Speaker 3: lots of car There was two cars and rescue vehicles

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Speaker 3: on the way there. There was multiple cars and rescue

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Speaker 3: vehicles on the way back or in.

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Speaker 4: The other way.

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Speaker 3: Cars all over the all over the road. Probably it's

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Speaker 3: all my fault. I apologize.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Let this be a lesson that in mid march, you

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Speaker 2: do not remove any plow snow clearing. Don't put your

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Speaker 2: snow shovels away, your snowshovels away, don't put your nothing,

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Speaker 2: don't take the snowblower, don't take the ice scraper out

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Speaker 2: of your carpe leave your winter mats in exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I did run into one problem this morning. I'm now

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Speaker 2: out of salt. So my driveway and my front walkway

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Speaker 2: ice is over pretty easy because it's on the shady

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Speaker 2: ten am, so I got to put salt down almost

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Speaker 2: of salt, and I'm kind of holding out that I

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Speaker 2: it this morning. Yeah, you know, so delivery people, you know,

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Speaker 2: You buy like a fifty pound bag of salt, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, right, I mean, it's it's so bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hold that through the summer until

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Speaker 2: next winter, you know what I mean. You try to,

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Speaker 1: And now I'm fresh.

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Speaker 3: Even the dogs, even everybody's pets, are like, I'm done

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Speaker 1: Yeah, saw green grass again, right.

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Speaker 3: And so that you know, yesterday opened the door and they're.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you get a huff from them, like this

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Speaker 2: is what you give me, Like it's my response like, well,

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Speaker 2: it is your fault, but.

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Speaker 3: It is my fault. My pets sense that. But there

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Speaker 3: we go. Here we are. It's supposed to get warposed

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Speaker 3: to Yeah, by Saturday's supposed to be nice, but it's

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, we got a little ways to go.

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Speaker 2: As expected, with the new league year underway, the Bills

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Speaker 2: converted twenty two million of wide receiver DJ moore salary.

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Speaker 1: Into a signing botus.

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Speaker 2: They also added a void year to his contract, thereby

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Speaker 2: clearing almost eighteen million in cap space for this year.

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Speaker 2: So his cap hit this season is just under seven million,

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Speaker 2: before going up to almost twenty nine million in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven and twenty twenty eight and almost twenty nine

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Speaker 2: little bit of a variance between the popular salary cap

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Speaker 2: sites like spat track run by our good friend Mike Jinitty.

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Speaker 1: And overthcap dot com.

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Speaker 2: Overthcat dot Com has the Bills a little over eleven

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Speaker 2: million under the cap, with these maneuvers. Spot track has

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Speaker 2: them at nine point seven under the cap, so not

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Speaker 2: a ton of space the Bills, you know, with the

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Speaker 2: majority of their draft choices in the later rounds, their

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Speaker 2: being devoid of a second round pick. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: if they do anything else. But that's kind of where

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing, and we'll get into it a little

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Speaker 3: bit later. The Dj Moore trade is being scrutinized further

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Speaker 2: I'll let you handle the comparisons when we get there.

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Speaker 2: Bill's newest defensive back, Geno Stone, met with the Western

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Speaker 2: New York Media late yesterday afternoon after signing his one

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Speaker 2: in contact with some of his fellow IOWA alums like

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Speaker 2: to get a feel for what things are like in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: He also said he wanted to get back to a

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Speaker 2: winning culture after two very unsuccessful seasons with Cincinnati with

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Speaker 1: But here is Stone in.

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Speaker 2: That conference call on Zoom with the media commenting on

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Speaker 2: what he's been told this defense will look like from

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Speaker 5: Really just sitting down with him, you know, kind of

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Speaker 5: he you know, he's been being around like a lot

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Speaker 5: of backgrounds, so he's kind of making a defense. This'sky

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Speaker 5: be all those kind of mixed together and he's gonna

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Speaker 5: make it his own. So you know, I'm I've been

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Speaker 5: So it's kind of it's gonna be kind of kind

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Speaker 5: and especially as players, you know, kind of get do

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Speaker 3: How everything goes.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the best part that you know,

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Speaker 5: the first time everyone learned it and that you're all

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Speaker 5: gonna be together. And no one's really you know, more

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Speaker 5: so I think's the best part about the defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's his thoughts on what he was, you know, told,

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Speaker 2: think to a great degree, the description we've most often

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Speaker 2: heard about Jim Leonard's defensive system is multiple and aggressive.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk more.

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Speaker 2: About this because this ties in with our topic of

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Speaker 2: Thought this was interesting. ESPN's mel kiper Junior put together

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Speaker 2: a new mock draft. At pick twenty six in round one,

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Speaker 2: he had the Bills taking Clemson cornerback Avion Terrell, AJ

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Speaker 2: Terrell's younger brother. Here was his reasoning for the pick, Steve.

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Speaker 1: The bills tight salary.

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Speaker 2: Cap led to some quarterback cornerback changes this offseason, with

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Speaker 2: the team cutting Dan Jackson, trading Taron Johnson, and letting

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Speaker 2: Tradavius White hit free agency. They have Christian Benford and

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Speaker 2: last year first round pick Max Harston in place, but

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Speaker 2: the depth is shallow. Terrell is great in man coverage,

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Speaker 2: showing the ability to stick on receivers. Didn't come away

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Speaker 2: with any interceptions last season, but he broke up nine passes.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 2: We've been told by the people we spoke with at

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Speaker 2: the combine that it is a good cornerback class that

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Speaker 2: goes into the fourth round. In terms of depth, it's

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Speaker 2: particularly strong at the nickel position, but there are outside

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that his name is here. But I've

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Speaker 2: got to believe that the front seven is higher on

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Speaker 2: the priority list, at least right now, right due partly

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Speaker 2: to the fact that you signed d Alford, who many

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Speaker 2: believe is going to slide into that nickel spot.

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Speaker 2: via free agency. I'm not saying they're not going to

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Speaker 3: That's right. It's we're not done with free agency and

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Speaker 3: we've got a month away or not, so a lot

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Speaker 3: could happen, and I don't have a problem taking a

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Speaker 3: money position if the guy can play, right, So that

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Speaker 3: is a premium position. It's a premium position. It's to

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Speaker 3: me edge wide receiver corner.

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Speaker 1: But you just spent a one on a corner last year.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it can't happen. It just seems more

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Speaker 2: unlikely to me.

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Speaker 3: It does to me as well. But if you get

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Speaker 3: down to that spot and this guy is standing there.

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Speaker 1: Oh, sticking out like a sort of and he's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's value, and he's if you feel like

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Speaker 3: play right away over the guys they've got. I mean

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Speaker 3: you still see you still have that you know that

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Speaker 3: Trey White things hanging out there like Trey White's always available, right,

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Speaker 3: You feel like if they need a guy that can

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Speaker 1: It's a little surprising to see that one.

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Speaker 1: So this is a punt year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where they.

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Speaker 3: Are, and we were talking about it. Jalen Waddle got traded,

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Speaker 3: Waddle turns twenty eight. This year More turns twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: So June, I think.

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Speaker 3: Miami paid the thirtieth a first rounder and the ninety

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Speaker 3: they swapped picks a two for a five, I think,

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Speaker 1: Denver gave up a first, a third, and a fourth.

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Speaker 3: That's right, first, a third, and a fourth. So they

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Speaker 3: Denver paid for this much more wattle and a fourth

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Speaker 2: Well, And I think the other thing is we should

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Speaker 2: The Bills made the best offer to the Dolphins to

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Speaker 3: No, you can imagine.

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Speaker 1: Those are the facts.

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Speaker 3: You can imagine. That was in the It was in

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Speaker 3: That was a sticking point, and they asked.

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Speaker 2: For even more than what Buffalo was offering, even though

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Speaker 2: the compensation's out of whack. You've got my offer. This

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Speaker 1: Take it or leave it. They left it.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of where it's and it's over the

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Speaker 3: for much less in this last trade in terms of production,

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Speaker 3: Bill's fans will know what I'm saying here. Wattle was

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Speaker 2: Well, he was playing with Justin Fields, right, Well, that's right,

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Speaker 2: two years ago he had a massive year with Justin Fields,

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Speaker 3: Right, So both of these guys are you would think

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Speaker 3: Wall's coming in with now with Bo Nicks and a

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Speaker 2: As for the draft, the first round is really setting

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Speaker 2: Those teams are the Jets picking two and sixteen, the

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Speaker 3: Right, I you know what I'm anticipating for, Like a

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, they do have to get some

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Speaker 3: Unless they can get a couple of ones next year,

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Speaker 3: you know, trade you know what I mean, Yeah, get

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have four third round picks already this

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Speaker 2: four though. We will be talking with Dolphins beat reporter

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Speaker 2: on what went down with the Dolphins, what their outlook is,

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Speaker 2: what their long range plan is under new leadership, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to him a little bit too about Bradley Chubb,

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Speaker 2: the acquisition by the Bills after he was designated a

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Speaker 2: million dollars. So Chiefs got some work to do. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they got pick clean in their secondary. Their offensive line

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Speaker 1: Regulous ye opener.

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Speaker 3: They've they've got a roster to build out, I mean

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Speaker 1: Now they're one of those teams with two first round picks.

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Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, they're gonna get some help if they want it.

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Speaker 2: I think they got to take a corner or an

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Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Here's what's gonna happen. They're gonna come back and they'll

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Speaker 3: sign Tyreek, Yeah, to the veteran minimum. See if they

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Speaker 3: Maybe nobody's gonna want it, if he's even interested. Right,

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today, what does the new

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Speaker 2: Jim Leonard did have his press conference and was wide

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Speaker 1: Going forward?

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Speaker 2: At one Bill's Live on the tweets sheet is where

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Speaker 2: you comment to us, so be sure to do that

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Speaker 2: that just crossed as The Texans have agreed to terms

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Speaker 2: as Teller goes to Houston. As you know, he's a

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Speaker 2: second week of free agency, I'll bet they got.

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Speaker 1: Him for even less than that. I could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's a one year deal for ten million.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it's a two years, two year deal, maybe

442
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Speaker 3: with some guarantees. I'm sure that he wasn't. He wasn't

443
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Speaker 3: without other offers, right, a guy with of his you

444
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Speaker 3: would think pedigree. So yeah, the numbers will be interesting,

445
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Speaker 3: particularly since the Bills are, you know, looking what happened

446
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Speaker 3: to David David Edwards and oh yeah, and Osiris Torrance

447
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: is his contract is going to be up after this year.

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Speaker 1: It's good to be a guard these days.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's on everybody's it's on everybody's menu. You

450
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: got to keep track of it. It's every position every

451
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Speaker 3: I think this year obviously with a Linderbaum contract, reset

452
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Speaker 3: that position right and it's one of the few positions

453
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Speaker 3: where there's always two right the right guard, left guard.

454
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Speaker 3: You gotta have two of those guys. And you can't

455
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Speaker 3: to pay forty million dollars for two guys that are starting.

456
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Speaker 3: Not many teams can do that, like even twenty million apiece.

457
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Speaker 3: One of them needs to be on a rookie contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and right now, that's Osyrus. Now, I think we

459
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Speaker 2: would assume Alec Anderson is in the competition for the

460
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Speaker 2: starting left guard spot. We'll see if others are part

461
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Speaker 2: of that competition too, you know, whether it's Cedric Van

462
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Speaker 2: Prim Granger or Tyland Grabil who's listed as a guard

463
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Speaker 2: slash tackle. We've talked about Travis Clayton on occasion, the

464
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Speaker 2: international pathway player who's six seven and listed as a tackle,

465
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Speaker 2: but may benefit and get on the field sooner if

466
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Speaker 2: he's playing an inside position like guard. So we'll have

467
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Speaker 2: to wait and see what the plans are with new

468
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Speaker 2: offensive line coach pad Meyer and what he has in

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Speaker 2: mind as to how people are gonna line up.

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Speaker 1: And who's going to compete where.

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Speaker 2: I got a question from one of our listeners earlier

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Speaker 2: who was asking, do you think there's any chance that

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Speaker 2: McGovern goes back to guard now that he's re signed.

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Speaker 3: And then and then put said Bennetts right.

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Speaker 2: Alec Anderson or Van Pray and Granger competing to be

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Speaker 2: the starting center. This was my response. I don't think

477
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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen, only because from a continuity standpoint, why

478
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Speaker 2: would you change two positions when you really only have one.

479
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Speaker 1: Vacancy, which is left guard.

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Speaker 2: So for continuity, if purposes, I think you would leave

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Speaker 2: McGovern in the pivot and just worry about addressing one

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Speaker 2: position instead of switching two spots.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's off the table. Probably if they

484
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Speaker 3: think they'd be better with Cedric van Pran Greene your

485
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Speaker 3: starting center, because that's what he's drafted. I mean, he's

486
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Speaker 3: a really good collegiate center for a couple of national

487
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Speaker 3: championship runs. And put McGovern at guard. If you're better

488
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Speaker 3: there than McGovern at center and somebody else at guard,

489
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Speaker 3: that's the question, because if you're better with mcgovernor, you

490
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Speaker 3: got to do it right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tend to think, though, knowing how Josh

492
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Speaker 2: Allen made it clear he wanted McGovern back on this roster,

493
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if he's doing that

494
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Speaker 2: unless he expects McGovern to play center.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not that he he's the end all be all.

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Speaker 2: If the coach says we need a guard and he's

499
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Speaker 2: the best pay we've got, well then.

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Speaker 4: You do it.

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Speaker 3: Josh will be convinced that, particularly if he knows that

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Speaker 3: McGovern's okay with it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: McGovern has been very good, a very good center, and

505
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Speaker 3: we played both here though he has he was signed

506
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Speaker 3: and played his first year here as a guard, but

507
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Speaker 3: they told him then that he was going to move

508
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Speaker 3: to center, as he told us here on the show

509
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: after he signed, centers the spot for him as where

510
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: he feels comfortable. I feel like, personally he's gonna want

511
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Speaker 3: to play center. But you know, these guys will do

512
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Speaker 3: anything anything if they feel to win games. But I

513
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: don't think mcgovernment is gonna move. But I do see

514
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Speaker 3: the logic of having a great or at least a

515
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Speaker 3: promising center at the very least, Cedric van prank Granger

516
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Speaker 3: is a command I mean, the guy's got a pedigree

517
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Speaker 3: coming out of college in the last two years that

518
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Speaker 3: is impressive. So he's not nothing. And McGovern played extremely

519
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Speaker 3: well at guard his first year here. That's a really

520
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Speaker 3: good question. They will. They will have that conversation, no

521
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Speaker 3: question about it. I don't know how far it'll go,

522
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Speaker 3: depending on the reaction of the players. Certainly, Cedric van

523
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Speaker 3: pank Grange would love to get on the field. He

524
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Speaker 3: would love to get on the field. And Connor McGovern

525
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Speaker 3: how much How big a deal is it for him

526
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Speaker 3: to move over three feet and be a guard instead

527
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Speaker 3: of a center. Cedric van Prant.

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Speaker 2: You could argue though, that McGovern is making center money

529
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Speaker 2: with his new contract. Yes, he's not making not making market,

530
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Speaker 2: he's not even making top of.

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Speaker 3: The Then you put it and then this this year,

532
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Speaker 3: you would have two starters on rookie contracts. You'd have

533
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Speaker 3: Cedric Van prank Granger and Osiris Torrents. Both those guys

534
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Speaker 3: would be on rookie deals, and you'd have a you know,

535
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: a premier left tackle and Dion a premier right tackle,

536
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: and Spencer Brown and a premier guard that is playing

537
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: very premier guard at discounted money. It's a great way

538
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: to get value for the five guys up front if

539
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: you wanted to make the decision financially, But coaches don't

540
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: like to do that. They make it on football instead

541
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Speaker 3: of money.

542
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Speaker 2: What does the new Bill's defensive system signal to you?

543
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Speaker 2: Let us know on the tweetsheet at One Bill's Live

544
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: and we'll get to some of your comments when we return.

545
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: There's also another new mock draft. Who did Daniel Jeremiah

546
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Speaker 2: choose for the Bills at pick twenty six. I'm just

547
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: gonna say I like his pick better than Kuiper's. We'll

548
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Speaker 2: get that to you next here on One Bill's Live.

549
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Speaker 4: Stay with us.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Love. Chris Brown,

551
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: still you task a on a Tuesday and asking you

552
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: what is the new Bill's defensive system signal to you?

553
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got some thoughts on that. We know

554
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: there were some fans that were not exactly huge proponents

555
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: of the ben BA don't break system that was largely

556
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: in existence here under former head coach Sean McDermott. So

557
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Speaker 2: you tell us give us your thoughts at one Bill's

558
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Live on Twitter x whatever you call that app these days.

559
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: Before we get into the tweets, I do want to

560
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: say that the Bills did put together a position listing

561
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: for all their players on the roster yesterday and it's

562
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: on the Bill's roster page if you want to take

563
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Speaker 2: a look at it. I put a tweet out about

564
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Speaker 2: a couple of position designations that were not surprising, but

565
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Speaker 2: we're interesting. Greg Russo was listed exclusively as an outside linebacker,

566
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Speaker 2: which I don't think is terribly surprising, but it's interesting

567
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: that he's not maybe listed as a hybrid type player.

568
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Looks like he's going to be out wide opposite people

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Speaker 2: like Bradley Chubb Dorian Williams. Listed as an inside linebacker,

570
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Speaker 2: which I think we were anticipating. And you know, now

571
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: the question becomes who's the MIC and who's the weak

572
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: in side linebacker. We know that Bernard has been the

573
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: MIC in years past in the four to two five system.

574
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Speaker 2: Does he hold on to that role or does he

575
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Speaker 2: serve in the weekend side linebacker position and you could

576
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: call the signals from there, arguably because you're both inside,

577
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Speaker 2: But is that deemed a more beneficial position for him?

578
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Being on the open side and letting Dorian Williams take on,

579
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Speaker 2: you know, more the point of attack, the blocking, et cetera.

580
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: Because he's a run and hit guy and he plays

581
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Speaker 2: bigger than his two hundred and thirty pounds size.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree with that?

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Speaker 3: That's his that yeah, that's his mo. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So some interesting position assignments here, and.

585
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Speaker 3: What it all means is yet to be seen. But

586
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Speaker 3: it's different, right, especially the Greg Russau stuff. To see

587
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: a guy like him standing up, standing up. Yeah, it's interesting.

588
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: It's going to be really interesting to see what they

589
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Speaker 3: do with Hoy, what they do with Dion Walker, DJ Sanders,

590
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: ed Landon Jackson Landon, Jackson car right, Dwayne Carter.

591
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Speaker 2: And then you got Fiderian Mathis who got re signed.

592
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: There's another big kid on the roster who we really

593
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Speaker 2: haven't mentioned. He got signed to the practice squad mid

594
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: season last year, and he might be the heaviest defensive

595
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Speaker 2: lineman on the roster this side of Fiderian Mathis. His

596
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: name is Tommy A. King Besote and he goes about

597
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: three hundred twenty plus pounds and he's six foot three

598
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Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if they have. I wonder if they

599
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: have nose tackle plans for him. His size would indicate that.

600
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Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see where he fits in the mix.

601
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Speaker 2: If you need a two down run stuffer, his size

602
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: fits the bill. I think he's gonna you know, short

603
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: of a veteran nose tackle being signed, he might be

604
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Speaker 2: given every opportunity to go.

605
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: Guys a roster that are built for like Andre Jones

606
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: juniors on the roster.

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Speaker 1: He'll be an outside linebacker.

608
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Speaker 3: He's sixty five two fifty eight. Now, all these guys

609
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: were playing defensive end last year, and you know Dwayne Carter.

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00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Ed what did they list on the roster page.

611
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: Zion Loges sixty six three twenty five. I mean, you

612
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: got you got dudes down there. They got Dwayne Carter's

613
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle adds a dtackle.

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Speaker 1: How did they list Andre Jones?

615
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Speaker 3: Andre Jones?

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Speaker 1: Is is he listed as an OLB?

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Speaker 3: He's OLB?

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00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's where he's gonna lie fight and that

619
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Speaker 2: that size profile fits that position in this system. But

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Speaker 2: let's get to your thoughts on the tweets sheet. Add

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live where you can chime in as well.

622
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Speaker 2: What does the new Bills defensive system signal to you,

623
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Speaker 2: Andrew says, I see a lot more action than reaction,

624
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: meaning attacking before the opposition can complete a play. Last

625
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: season it was wait for the play then react. Should

626
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: be more physicality as well. I can confirm that the

627
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: Bills defensive staff, particularly on the back seven, is looking

628
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: for players who love physical contact, who want to run

629
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Speaker 2: and hit. It is like, if it's not the top priority,

630
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: it's right up there, it's one A or one B.

631
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: They want physical guys that love to hit and CJ.

632
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson is a perfect example of that. So I

633
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: anticipate we're going to see more and more of that

634
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: type of player being added to the back seven on

635
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Speaker 2: defense going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. And you can tell too,

637
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: because largely it was in place the last couple of

638
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: years here in Buffalo, with the defensive scheme and the

639
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: personnel and the kind of but you can tell that

640
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: that plan has changed now by the specific signings they're making.

641
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: There is a plan in place and they are trying

642
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: to execute it with the right with the guys they want,

643
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: and that to me is as big a takeaway as anything,

644
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 3: even the guys that they got that they've got a type.

645
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: And if they do, if they're doing that with the

646
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: defensive backs, you know they're thinking about that with the

647
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: front seven as well. They want a type of guy.

648
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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see who those turn out to be.

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00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: And you know, as you heard Geno Stone say in

650
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Speaker 2: his conversation with Jim Leonard, Leonard explained to him that

651
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: he has kind of mashed a bunch of different defensive

652
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: systems together that he either a played in or be

653
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: coached under throughout his playing and coaching career and kind

654
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: of made it his own.

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Speaker 1: He's put his own twist on it.

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Speaker 2: And so if you want to go back through his

657
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Speaker 2: playing and coaching history to get a feel for who

658
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 2: and what that might be, you're talking about Rex Ryan,

659
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Speaker 2: John Fox in Denver. His head coach in New Orleans

660
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Speaker 2: was Sean Payton. I'll have to go back and see

661
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Speaker 2: who the defensive coordinator was might have been Greg Williams,

662
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Speaker 2: Mike Petton. With the Browns, he spent a year there,

663
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: which is essentially an offshoot of the Rex Ryan defense.

664
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Speaker 2: And then at Wisconsin he worked under Paul christ and

665
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Speaker 2: in Illinois worked under Brett bielma So and then obviously

666
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Speaker 2: vance Joseph in Denver.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Those defensive systems varied in terms of front three four

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Speaker 2: four three. And we've heard Leonard say in no uncertain

670
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: terms he wants an attacking style defense that brings physicality

671
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Speaker 2: to the field. But we want to know what it

672
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: signals to you, this new defensive system. And Stegosaurus says,

673
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Speaker 2: aggressive and tough, bullyball and no more bend, but don't

674
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Speaker 2: break an attitude to match our offense. What about that

675
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Speaker 2: part of the equation, Steve, How the offense plays off

676
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Speaker 2: of a defense that intends to play with that kind

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Speaker 2: of style. Well, scoring points hasn't been a problem.

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Speaker 3: And it probably won't. It will continue to be a

679
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Speaker 3: strength getting points on the board. It'll be interesting to

680
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Speaker 3: see if they're even more free to do that. And

681
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Speaker 3: this this thing swings every way because you never play

682
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Speaker 3: this in a vacuum. For everything you do well, there's

683
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: gonna be a backlash the other direction. For instance, this

684
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Speaker 3: aggressive and tough defense, this bully ball that you're talking about,

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah that you ma, you're gonna get some some wow,

686
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Speaker 3: eye popping plays. But if you think back to the

687
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Speaker 3: early days of the in the twenty twenties when Leslie

688
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Speaker 3: Fraser was the coordinator, they were a top five defense,

689
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Speaker 3: maybe sometimes top two defense in the league. Never spectacular,

690
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Speaker 3: never dodn no splash plays. All they get a turnovers.

691
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Speaker 3: You know. Then in the twenty twenty season when they

692
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Speaker 3: got a bunch of turnovers and stuff, but it wasn't

693
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Speaker 3: those big splash plays that they got a lot of

694
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Speaker 3: nothing deep in this one. You may get a lot

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Speaker 3: of splash plays, but you also might get some going

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Speaker 3: in the so like a hockeyed analogy, and they going

697
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Speaker 3: in the back of your head, there's stuff going over

698
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Speaker 3: your head. It works both ways because you're not gonna

699
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: Teams are not gonna let you're not You're just not

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Speaker 3: gonna stand back there and pat the ball while you

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Speaker 3: get your pass rush together. Uh, And these exotic, exotic rushes,

702
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Speaker 3: they're gonna have an answer for you once in a while,

703
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 3: and that answer is gonna beat you once in a while.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna it's gonna be like that a little

705
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: bit too. But if you're not playing this both sides together,

706
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Speaker 3: trying to win the game, and your offense say, and

707
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Speaker 3: you tell your offense listen, don't worry about it. We

708
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: got the defensive side, go out there and score. I

709
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: don't care if it's one play or it's a seventeen play. Drive,

710
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Speaker 3: come off the gate, come off the field, getting points.

711
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: Just do it, and I don't care. There's seven minutes

712
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Speaker 3: to go. We got a we had a ten point lead.

713
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Speaker 3: I don't care. Make it. Make it an eighteen point lead.

714
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Speaker 3: Let's go, you know, make it a seventeen point lead.

715
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Speaker 3: Go get it and live with it that way and

716
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: say and you know, and once in a while the

717
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Speaker 3: offense is gonna go out there and try to do that,

718
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Speaker 3: and it's gonna go the other way again. So now

719
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Speaker 3: you got a three point lead, right, Well, that's what

720
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Speaker 3: you're gonna be up against. If if you're gonna go

721
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Speaker 3: for it on both sides of the ball, once in

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Speaker 3: a while, you're gonna be like, why didn't you just

723
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Speaker 3: hand it off? You know that kind of thing is

724
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Speaker 3: gonna happen. But it's always been my philosophy. You got

725
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Speaker 3: to coach your team like you trust your guys, get

726
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: put the ball in their hand. Let's go go out there.

727
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: Your job as a score I don't want you to

728
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: get first downs, grind out the clock, end on a

729
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: kneel down. When we're sending you out there was six

730
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: and a half minutes to go. I don't want you

731
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Speaker 3: to go out there and grind the clock down. No,

732
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: go add to the lead. Let them grind the clock down.

733
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Speaker 3: You know that's that's always and trust your players that

734
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: they are not going to turn it over and it's

735
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: going to be going the other way. Trust your players.

736
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Speaker 3: So that's been my philosophy. It hasn't always been that way.

737
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Speaker 3: And we've seen success in this in this franchise both

738
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Speaker 3: ways they've had they they've been wildly successful the past

739
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: eight years, but they can't win that last game. Maybe

740
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: this is what helps them win that last game if

741
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Speaker 3: they can get there.

742
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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here when we come back, more

743
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Speaker 2: of your thoughts on the tweet sheet, and we'll ask

744
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: does Brady's offense shift to some degree knowing this is

745
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: the approach of the defense. We'll try to tackle some

746
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: of that next here on One Bill's Live. Stay with

747
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: us all right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris

748
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Speaker 2: Brown Steve tasking with you on a Tuesday, asking you

749
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Speaker 2: what does the new defensive scheme signal to you about

750
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo's defense going forward?

751
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Speaker 1: At one.

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Speaker 2: Bills Live is where you hit us up and I

753
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: promised this and failed to deliver in the last segment

754
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Speaker 2: as there was a new mock draft out from NFL

755
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: dot COM's Daniel Jeremiah Draft Insider and at pick twenty

756
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: six Steve for the Bills in round one one, Daniel

757
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: Jeremiah selects Texas A and M edge rusher Cassius Howell.

758
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: And Howell, for those that don't remember, is the guy

759
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Speaker 2: who was getting all kinds of attention because of his

760
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: short arms. Here's what Jeremiah said about the pick for

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Speaker 2: the Bills at twenty six. The level of concern about

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Speaker 2: Howel's lack of length thirty and a quarter inch arms,

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Speaker 2: which by the way, are the same length as mine.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not joking.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. Will vary from team to team.

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Speaker 3: He's in come on.

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Speaker 2: But his first step quickness is unquestioned after he posted

769
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Speaker 2: the fastest ten yards split time at the combine of

770
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Speaker 2: any player from the defensive line group one point five

771
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Speaker 2: to eight seconds. New Bills defensive coroner's Jim Leonard comes

772
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Speaker 2: from Denver, where the Broncos one off the edge with

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Speaker 2: Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper, who both ranked among the

774
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: top five at their position last season in average get off.

775
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: The burst and acceleration of Cash's howl is unquestioned. It

776
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: is there in spades. There's just no debating it. How

777
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: much you're concerned about how much you're concerned about his

778
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: arm length is the other part of the equation. And

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Speaker 2: I wonder if there are teams because of that arm length,

780
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: we'll consider him strictly a pass rush specialist. And if

781
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: you consider him that and he's not an every down player,

782
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: do you take him in round one? I think that's

783
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Speaker 2: what some teams will be thinking about because with the

784
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: short arms, you're worried he's not gonna be able to

785
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: set the edge with length, you know, and hold things

786
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Speaker 2: off because he doesn't have length at least with his arms,

787
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Speaker 2: unless you determine that he's capable of overcoming that with

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Speaker 2: some of his technique, and that again is an evaluation.

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Speaker 1: So it's a guy that's been productive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, had fourteen sacks last year for Texas A

791
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Speaker 2: and M eight and a half the year before ten

792
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Speaker 2: and a half in his last year at Bowling Green

793
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Speaker 2: before he transferred to A and M.

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Speaker 3: Right, So his strengths are.

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Speaker 1: Sorry eleven and a half four and nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: His strengths are the first step off the snaps. It's

797
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: explosive beats, tackles right out of their stance, turns the

798
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Speaker 3: corner before they can even get out of their turn. Now,

799
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Speaker 3: that's not going to happen in the pros, I would

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00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: think as readily as it does against like I say

801
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: all the time, dental students. But his his flexibility has

802
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: bend they he can flatten around the corner. Uh, he

803
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: can do it like a man that's much smaller than he.

804
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: He's six four or six two two fifty. He can.

805
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: He does have a spin moved down inside to counteract

806
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: his off the edge. He has intelligent rush spacing keeps

807
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: him outside. He has to stay outside the tackle strike zones,

808
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: so he's learned. Apparently to work with short arms forces

809
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: the linemen to lunge and punch the air rather than

810
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: trying to get their hands on him. He works from

811
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Speaker 3: a distance. A long hop on vertical rushes creates a

812
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 3: stacking opportunity that allows him to control the rep works

813
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: back towards the pocket with leverage. He reads slow developing plays.

814
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: He collapses the pocket, backside pursuit change. Their directions are

815
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: really above average chases chases down plays from the backside,

816
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: and he has awareness to get his hands up and

817
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: as weaknesses. The first thing they tell you is is

818
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Speaker 3: short arms. Thirty in a quarter inch arms short for

819
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: the position, his limited reach, his it compounds everything. If

820
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Speaker 3: he gets into a hand fighting battle with an NFL tackle,

821
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Speaker 3: they should They may be able to get into his

822
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Speaker 3: chest plate and then put him wherever they want. If

823
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: that happens, he gets knocked around a little bit because

824
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Speaker 3: he's you know, two hundred and fifty pounds instead of

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00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: you know, too eighty. Sometimes he gets a little bit

826
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Speaker 3: turned when he's trying to set the edge. So all

827
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: of that stuff is in there, and all of these

828
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: guys have kind of pluses and minuses, Like I just

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Speaker 3: read about Casius howel but thirty in a quarter inch

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00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: arms Brownie is I think. Maybe I don't want to

831
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Speaker 3: speak for you, but Brownie is more put off by that,

832
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: I think than I am.

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Speaker 2: Probably I'm not terribly put off. But if he's productive,

834
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Speaker 2: he's productive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for a guy to be elite when

836
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Speaker 3: he's not built to be elite. But this guy's got

837
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: some ability. He's fast, he's fast off the edge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's any debate in that.

839
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Speaker 3: So, so he's a guy, think about it. He's a

840
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: little bit like Solomon, Javon Solomon, but Solomon is small,

841
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: but he's got long arms. Javon Solomon does already. On

842
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: the Bills, Cassius Howell is probably more productive than Solomon was,

843
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: but he's got short arms, right. Javon Solomon's had trouble

844
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: getting on the field for the Bills into the rotation

845
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: of the outside, and he does play some. He's a

846
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: special teams guy plays extremely well there too. But Cashus

847
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: how would probably be considered a better prospect than Javon Solomon,

848
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Speaker 3: even with short arms. So I don't know. It's one

849
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: of those things. Every guy is different.

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Speaker 1: This is an eye of the beholder type prospect.

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00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, A little bit. I going twenty

852
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: sixth in the first round, thirteen tow quarter in charms.

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00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: Okay, you can justify it. I can go in ninth.

854
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: Going yeah, exactly different, going ninth. You need a guy

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Speaker 3: that checks all the boxes, even if one of the

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00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: boxes is something you feels unimportant. If you're taking a

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Speaker 3: guy in the top ten. He's got to check all

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00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 3: those boxes. A twenty six. Most of the boxes is good.

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Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna talk a little bit

861
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Speaker 2: of the Dolphins moves here this offseason, including the trade

862
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: today of Jalen Waddle, and we're gonna get the low

863
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: down on just what to expect from one Bradley Chubb

864
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Speaker 2: knew his pass rusher for the Bills as we talked

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Speaker 2: with Alan Poopar, Dolphins Be reporter next here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Calida helth.

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Speaker 2: Our Number two Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and

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Speaker 2: gonna talk a little Dolphins off season now, especially in

870
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: light of the big tray that was made today between

871
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: the Broncos and the Dolphins, seeing Jaylen Waddle head to

872
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: Denver and the a FC West.

873
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: And here to help us do.

874
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 2: That and probably talk a little bit of Bradley Chubb

875
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: as well, is a Sports Illustrated Dolphins reporter, Alan Poopar

876
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: joining us here and I guess the first question here Alan,

877
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: and thanks for the time, is how how.

878
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: Much did this move catch you? By surprise?

879
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: We know Waddle was part of trade talked at the

880
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: deadline didn't happen, But I think a lot of people

881
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: were wondering if this was a player that they felt

882
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: they could still grow with on this rebuild.

883
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: But what was your level of surprise with this move?

884
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 6: The person high plas The timing of the move surprised

885
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 6: me more than anything else because the idea of the

886
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 6: Dolphins trading him if they could get something of value

887
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 6: in return, always was in play. And the new jam

888
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 6: John X Sullivan said a couple months back like that,

889
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 6: Jim Waddle, end avon e Chan for that matter, were

890
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 6: guys that you build around and all that. But the gym,

891
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 6: you know, calls me out. I'm gonna pick up the

892
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 6: phone to hear what they have to say. And the

893
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 6: thaw was always if they didn't get a good return

894
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 6: for Waddle, they're going to make the move. And from

895
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 6: where I said, getting a first and a third.

896
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: Pretty good return, Yeah, and it was. It's starting to

897
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: look like with the five top wage earners for the

898
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: Dolphins not being on the team anymore and a huge

899
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: number of dead cab net will drop a little bit

900
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: after the first June first. But you know, what is

901
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 3: the sense around how this season will play out.

902
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 6: Not well, Yeah, here's the thing, though, the Dolphins were

903
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: never going to be contenders in twenty twenty six, if

904
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 6: we're gonna be honest about it. So this season is

905
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 6: about more than anything else, establishing and I hate that term,

906
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna use it there anyway, the culture, the foundation,

907
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 6: the kind of program that they're gonna have under jarn

908
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 6: Eric Sullivan and Halpley, and also, you know, start restocking

909
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 6: and rebuilding the roster to be competitive hopefully in twenty

910
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 6: twenty seven, if not in twenty twenty eight, and then

911
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 6: you have to ask yourselves, okay, well, which guys are

912
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 6: gonna be foundational players by then? And Jayleen Waddle again

913
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 6: getting a person a third we can debate how good

914
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 6: a wide receiver he is, and that's you know, that

915
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 6: could be worthless where the final determination of the trade

916
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 6: could be made. But they're gonna they very well might

917
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 6: have a very rough season in terms of a one

918
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 6: lost record, but that's not the primary focus in twenty

919
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 6: twenty six for this team.

920
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: Going back to the trade deadline, Alan, it was widely

921
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: understood that the Bills made the strongest offer to try

922
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: to acquire Jalen Waddle and they were rebuffed. Now, granted

923
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: that was by the previous regime, the interim GM at

924
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: the time, but I think being kind of was unfairly

925
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: criticized for not getting the deal done because Miami wanted

926
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: even more from what we understood, because it was an

927
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: intra division trade, which I get. You know you want

928
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more because you know you're gonna be

929
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: staring at that guy two times a year. I can't

930
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: imagine that the compensation was terribly greater with Denver here now,

931
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: So I guess put some context on it for me

932
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: as to why that previous regime didn't pull the trigger

933
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: in Is it purely because it's a division opponent in

934
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: your estimation.

935
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 6: No, I'm not buying that. It's surely because of the

936
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 6: division opponent. I think another factor, and maybe a determining factor,

937
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 6: was at that time the fate of Mike mcgil's head coach.

938
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: Which.

939
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 6: Wasn't set installed because if it had, then he should

940
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 6: have been fired at the same time as Chris Brere

941
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 6: was on Halloween after that Thursday night lots against the

942
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 6: Baltimore Ravens. So I am guessing and I at Mike

943
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 6: McDaniel had some conversation with Stephen Ross, saying, listen, you

944
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 6: want to fairly evaluate my work for the rest of

945
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 6: the season once you give me a fighting chance that

946
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 6: don't trade away my best players. And maybe they held

947
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 6: off because of that. I think that would be one possibility.

948
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: And it also could be that once they got a

949
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 6: new regime in place and new set of eyes, that

950
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 6: they're focus shifted entirely on being able to compete right

951
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 6: here and now. Two, you know, let's absorb all the

952
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 6: cap paign that we're going to have to absorb right

953
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 6: now in twenty twenty six and start with a you know,

954
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 6: with a clean slate beyond that, and if we can

955
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 6: get good value for a player, let's do it. Whereas

956
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 6: there might have been more hesitation to make that move

957
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 6: back in November.

958
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: Where did it go wrong for Mike McDaniel, And that crew.

959
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 6: Playing style was not conducive to December January success, and

960
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 6: that to me was affair from the start immediately the

961
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 6: first season when they got off I mean three and

962
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 6: oh two or went on there three three, three and three,

963
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 6: They went five and another eight and three, and they

964
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 6: hit it into December and a tough stretch of forty

965
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 6: nine Ers Chargers on the road, I mean three three

966
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 6: straight road games, forty nine Ers, Chargers and Builds on

967
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 6: the road. Okay where Okay, we're going to see if

968
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 6: this team is legit, if their circus type of team there,

969
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 6: their track and field type of team can win those games.

970
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 6: They lost all three, albeit a close loss. You know,

971
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 6: had Buffalo and that certain set in that game. But

972
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 6: that became a pattern even the following years. Dolphins were

973
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 6: level and six, which was their most wins in two thousand,

974
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 6: but they were like one and six against playoffs wins.

975
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 6: That part of me against playoff teams and that style

976
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 6: of play just didn't work. And beyond that, McDaniel, for

977
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 6: all of the creative brilliant that he often shows, it's

978
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 6: fair to question what he is as a leader as

979
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 6: the men in charge setting the tone, you know, establishing

980
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 6: years that were again establishing the proper culture. So that

981
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 6: wasn't That's what went wrong. And then once Tyreek Hill

982
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 6: went through a couple of injury plagued seasons and twenty

983
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 6: twenty four, even though he played just about every game,

984
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 6: he was dealing with stuff the whole year, and then

985
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 6: last year blew out his name in the fourth game.

986
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 6: That made a big difference, and it just wasn't the

987
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 6: same team that really wasn't scaring teams offensive la anymore.

988
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk a little Bradley Chubb here.

989
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: Allan, the newest pass rusher added to the Bills, as

990
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: we know, missed the entire twenty twenty four season with

991
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: a torn acl torn ptel at ten and torn minisius

992
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: serious knee injury. Comes back in twenty twenty five and

993
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: the numbers look good on paper with eight and a

994
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: half sacks first year off of major knee injury. What

995
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: did you see week to week from him? And was

996
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: there any part of his trademark game that got him

997
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: the giant contract with the Dolphins in the first place

998
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: that was missing last year in your estimation?

999
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was missing. And I'm gonna be honest, I like,

1000
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 6: Riley is a really good dude. I mean the quality,

1001
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 6: quality guy, great leader, good in the community. But the

1002
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 6: eight and a half sacks last year were very, very

1003
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 6: misleading because there were a lot of those that were

1004
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 6: cleanup sacks and in fact, Jalen Phillips easily was the

1005
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 6: more impactful pass rusher of the two before Phillips was

1006
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 6: traded to the Eagles, except Phillips are a problem finishing

1007
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 6: and Chubb was very good at doing that and going

1008
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 6: back to McDaniel because this relates to Chubb, to me,

1009
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 6: the most egregious decision he ever made his Dolphins head

1010
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 6: coach was having Bradley Chubb and others on the field

1011
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 6: at the end of that Baltimore game on Christmas Steve

1012
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, when they were down forty nine to

1013
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 6: nineteen with like three minutes left, which is when Chubb

1014
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 6: sustained that really bad knee injury to put an end

1015
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 6: to a season where he was really, really good. He

1016
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 6: made the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty two, the season

1017
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 6: he was drafted from Denver to Miami, and after getting

1018
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 6: to Miami, even he himself said that it took him

1019
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 6: a while to get like to the flow of things

1020
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 6: in Miami and was just okay, And he wound up

1021
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 6: making the Pro Bowl and we're like, okay, And in

1022
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three he was really really good, and this

1023
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 6: is like, oh, this is the guy we traded the

1024
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: first round picked for. And then last year he just

1025
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 6: wasn't that same guy. And I remember thinking to myself

1026
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 6: and even telling some other media members can training camp,

1027
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 6: it was like, he does not look great. Was better

1028
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 6: in the regular season than he looked in training camp,

1029
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 6: And that's saying he was solid at best, but it

1030
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 6: wasn't the Bradley Chubb of twenty twenty three.

1031
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: Do you think there's more in the tank? Gas in

1032
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: the tank?

1033
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 6: It's a good question, and he'll be a year another

1034
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 6: year removed from the injury. Fully that makes a difference.

1035
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 6: But that's a that's a good question. I don't know

1036
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 6: the answer to that. I can tell you though, I

1037
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 6: saw the contract he signed with the Bills and I

1038
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 6: was like, whoa, whoa, that's a big money from for

1039
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 6: for what I saw last year. And I certainly hope so.

1040
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 6: But I couldn't answer that.

1041
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's the question.

1042
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: That's the forty three million dollar question. It really is. Yeah,

1043
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: forward here.

1044
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: How would you describe his game though when it is

1045
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: at its best? Because I think you know, you look

1046
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: at him, you know, at six three six four, two

1047
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty something pounds, and while he does have

1048
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: some burst, like would you say he's a power rusher

1049
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: by trade? Like, how would you describe his skill set.

1050
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: When he is at his best, I see.

1051
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 6: Him as more of a I'm a nation rusher where

1052
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 6: he's got a variety of things he can throw at

1053
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 6: opposing offensive linement. He's not like a pure speed rusher

1054
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 6: will just beat everybody off the edge. He's not a

1055
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 6: power guy who's gonna bull rush. What he'll do is

1056
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 6: only here. He's a you know, like a reverse spend.

1057
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 6: He'll do like sometimes he'll go outside and and he

1058
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 6: can be solid against the run as well. He's a good,

1059
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 6: solid pro. The question is whether you know the the

1060
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 6: athleticism that made him was it the fifth overall pick

1061
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 6: or sixth overall pick back back in the day and

1062
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty three can.

1063
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 4: Return all right?

1064
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: And then with respect to you know, Miami and Malik Willis,

1065
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: it's a three year deal. Do you see him strictly

1066
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: as a bridge quarterback knowing they're going to be lousy

1067
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: this year and they might be looking for another quarterback

1068
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: in the twenty seven draft, or do you think Malik

1069
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: Willis has a chance to be the long term starter

1070
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: if he can demonstrate some of the same resourcefulness that

1071
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: he did with the Packers last year when he stepped

1072
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: in for an injured Jordan Love.

1073
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a three year deal on paper, it's actually

1074
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 6: in reality it's a two year deal with twenty five

1075
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 6: million guaranteed over the next ten years and nothing beyond

1076
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 6: that other than that pro rated signing bullshit which has

1077
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 6: already been paid out. So it's basically it's kind of

1078
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 6: taking a shot at Milik Willis being able to become

1079
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 6: the franchise quarterback for the Dolphins, and if it's apparent

1080
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 6: after year one that no, he's not the answer, then

1081
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 6: you could have a guy to who handles the position

1082
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty seven, after you draft a quarterback in

1083
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 6: that draft, if you want to have to sit a

1084
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Speaker 6: year before you throw him into the free and in

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Speaker 6: a best case and no is what he showed in

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Speaker 6: his few starts with the Packers, you know, was a

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Speaker 6: little peek into something bigger and better than the Dolphins

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Speaker 6: of their quarterback. And at the price they paid forty

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Speaker 6: five million over the next two seasons, that's not a

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Speaker 6: ton of money for taking that kind of shot, which

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Speaker 6: the Dolphins absolutely have to take and competing in the

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Speaker 6: AFCs where you have to deal with Josh Allen and

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Speaker 6: Drake May every year, it would be o the Dolphins

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Speaker 6: to keep taking shots at finding a guy who can

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Speaker 6: help them compete with those two as often as they

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Speaker 6: need to.

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Speaker 3: So what are the early returns on John Eric Sullivan

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Speaker 3: the new GM and of course Jeff Halfley the new

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Speaker 3: head coach. What are what are the media saying, what

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Speaker 3: are the fans saying about what's going on in these

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Speaker 3: early days of their regime.

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Speaker 6: I would tell you for the most part it's positive,

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Speaker 6: but there are some For example, to a fans or

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Speaker 6: just fans period, they were like, why are you getting

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Speaker 6: rid of it to a tongueo bailo if you have

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Speaker 6: to pay him fifty six million against the cap anyway,

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Speaker 6: there are some fans who are not liking the Jaylen

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Speaker 6: model trade because they think he's a high end number

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Speaker 6: one wide receiver. But I would think for the most part,

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Speaker 6: I think he's made a very good first impression. Jeff

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Speaker 6: Athlete's a tougher case because you know, you're really not

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Speaker 6: going to make an impression until the JACCD see him

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Speaker 6: coach and action with johnn Exleivant. What I would tell

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Speaker 6: you from my perspective is and and Happley as well.

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Speaker 6: The way they talk and the way they communicate is impressive.

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Speaker 6: Conviction that they have and their clarity, their vision they're

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Speaker 6: trying to get accomplished, and what they're they're projecting, and

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Speaker 6: the moves.

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Speaker 4: That John R.

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Speaker 6: Sullivan has made so far. There's just is no one

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Speaker 6: that I haven't liked. I think he's done pretty much

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Speaker 6: all the right things.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I guess you could argue, you know, and be like, Okay, Vin,

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Speaker 6: think if it's Patrick factor, the Mike wanted a new contract,

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Speaker 6: and I'm going to guess a lot of teams around

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Speaker 6: the NFL weren't necessarily thrilled with that notion. That limited

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Speaker 6: your market. So uh, I mean it's not like he

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Speaker 6: wouldn't have traded Fitzpatrick for a fourth if he could

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Speaker 6: have done it. So I think he's off to a

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 6: very good start. There's clearly line in place, uh, which

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Speaker 6: is very good to see the next step for him.

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 6: Because the Dolphins, if we go back seven years, the

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01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 6: Dolphins were kind of the situation in twenty nineteen. They

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01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 6: took care of their cat situation, accumulated a lot of

1136
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 6: draft capital, and went into twenty twenty with eleven draft picks.

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Speaker 6: This is what they have now. For twenty twenty six

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01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 6: and then a whole boatload of cap space for twenty

1139
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 6: twenty and the problem was they just didn't hit well

1140
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 6: enough on their draft picks in twenty twenty and here

1141
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 6: we are again six years later, and so that'll be

1142
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Speaker 6: the next big test for John Eric Sullivan.

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Speaker 2: So with that in mind, and last one for you, Alan,

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Speaker 2: thanks for the time. What do you anticipate will be

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: top priorities with their two first round draft choices?

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01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: If you had to handicap.

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01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 6: It, you could go a lot of different directions right now.

1148
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 6: They have a screaming need for an edge defense or

1149
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 6: defensive end, however we want to categorize it since the

1150
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 6: Dolphins will be playing in the base four to three,

1151
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 6: screaming need for that. There's a screaming need for a

1152
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 6: cornerback and those are two premium positions, so could easily

1153
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 6: to see the Dolphins go there. They have a screaming

1154
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 6: need for a guard. Uh do you want to go

1155
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 6: guard at eleven? Maybe I'd better be a really good one. Personally,

1156
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 6: I don't like the positional value of a guard at eleven,

1157
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 6: but yeah, that's just me. They certainly now can use

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01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 6: a wide, certainly can use a wide receiver. Now with

1159
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 6: wild Gun and Tyreek Hillgan, they can use a safety. Uh,

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Speaker 6: those are the four ones I'd really jump out. And

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Speaker 6: then it could come down as well too if there's

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 6: a guy like a major town, if like an off

1163
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 6: the ball linebacker like Sunny Styles for example, if he's

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01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 6: there at eleven, I'd have a hard time seeing johnna

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01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 6: Ex Sullivan pass him. But before that stands out right

1166
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 6: there at edge defender, guard, wide receiver, cornerback, safety. And

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Speaker 6: that's five, isn't it five?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Alan, thanks the time as always, appreciatiate it. And it

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Speaker 2: looks like it's gonna be an interesting offseason for you

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01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: guys down there, so we'll catch up with you in

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Speaker 2: the fall.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much, absolutely, take care. All right.

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: That's Alan Poopar joining US Dolphins reporter for Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's it's a tear down and a rebuilt.

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01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean it is stacking cornerstones and blocks together right

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Speaker 2: now down there.

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Speaker 1: And they but sounds like they have a vision, like

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Speaker 1: a clear vision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to hit on the draft. They had

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: a clear vision when they drafted two as well, and

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01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: they picked the wrong guy. Joe Burrow was on the

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Speaker 3: board and they picked Tua.

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Speaker 1: No, Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert was on the board and they picked Tua.

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 3: And the football people from all the stuff we've heard

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Speaker 3: in the years since, they were all like Justin Herbert

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Speaker 3: is the guy.

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Speaker 2: And not that Herbert has want anything either, but I

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Speaker 2: would take Justin Herbert over to one hundred times out

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Speaker 2: of one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred. So we'll see if they do better

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Speaker 3: this time around.

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Speaker 2: They have guys from you know, the Green Bay organization

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Speaker 2: and the Packers' organization has drafted very well for the

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Speaker 2: most part over the last draft fifteen.

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Speaker 1: To twenty years.

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Speaker 2: No matter who their general manager has been, they they

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Speaker 2: do an excellent job of building consensus. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: they're bat in a thousand, but they do pretty well

1201
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Speaker 2: in drafts.

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01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: Yes, they do because as a community owned.

1203
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: Team, they can't spend as freely as some of these

1204
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 2: other clubs can with deppocketed owners, you know, who can

1205
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: restructure deals and pay fat signing bonuses and things.

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: Like that superficially. As well, we've heard stories that the

1207
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 3: league is full of countless stories where an owner is

1208
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 3: Trump played the Trump card and said I I want

1209
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 3: you to pick this guy. I want you to pick

1210
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: that guy. There is no guy like that in Green Bay.

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: So they never get superseded just by a whim or

1212
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 3: a gut feeling. It's a consensus and that has helped

1213
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Speaker 3: Green Bay over the years. And no other team has

1214
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Speaker 3: ever drafted two consecutive Hall of Fame quarterbacks where they

1215
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Speaker 3: overlapped by four years.

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Speaker 1: Four years, and they have a pretty good one right

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Speaker 1: now in Jordan Love.

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Speaker 3: So they do things differently because football people run the

1219
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: business and that's the way it's always been, and so

1220
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 3: that gives them some I don't want to say an

1221
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 3: even advantage. I must want to say a different mindset.

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Speaker 3: So getting people out of that organization and having them

1223
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 3: come over to other organizations, I think. I think it's

1224
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 3: an interesting move and I think it's a smart one.

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Speaker 2: You had Elliott Wolf in New England. Yeah, came over

1226
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: from there, John Schneider in Seattle. I mean, there's a

1227
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Speaker 2: lot of branches off that Green Bay office tree.

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 3: Ron Wolf was down in Miami for a minute years

1229
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Speaker 3: and years and years ago, and him along with Bill Parcells,

1230
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 3: they've teamed up together in Miami for a hot minute.

1231
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,520
Speaker 3: So it has worked before for other organizations.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us here.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we will get back to your

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: comments on the tweet sheet. If you haven't, let us

1235
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 2: know at One bills Live. What does the new Bill's

1236
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: defensive system signal to you? Hit us up on the

1237
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Speaker 2: tweet sheet at one Bill's Live. We'll get to more

1238
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: of those comments next. Stay right where we are.

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Speaker 7: We'll be right back, all right back here on One

1240
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 7: Bills Live.

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and there's some twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: NFL regular season schedule news. To no one's surprise, Seattle

1243
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: Seahawks will be part of the season opener, as the

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: World champions will host the game. The difference is the

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: season opener is scheduled for Wednesday, September ninth. It is

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: usually Thursday is the kickoff game. It is going to

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: be Wednesday, September ninth, twenty twenty six, and the international

1248
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 2: game in Australia is going to follow on Thursday night,

1249
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: which is the Rams and the forty nine Ers.

1250
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: Rams are the home team in that game.

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: It will be so the entire NFC West could conceivably

1252
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: be playing on Wednesday and Thursday.

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01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: So I fits if it's late summer in America. It'll

1254
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: be late winter, late winter in Australia Australia. Interesting day

1255
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: like today.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't plan for that.

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: I didn't think about that.

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01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had no idea when the Australian game might

1259
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: be played. But there are reports now that the season

1260
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: opener will involve the world champion Seahawks and the game

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 2: will be obviously at Luomenfields in Seattle, Wednesday, September ninth,

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01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: not Thursday. It's traditionally a Thursday night kickoff game that

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: is being reserved for the international game in Australia between

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01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: the Rams and the forty nine Ers. So interesting development there.

1265
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: These are just reports that has not been yet confirmed

1266
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: by the NFL, so we'll see what comes of it

1267
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: going forward here.

1268
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: It's very interesting they're.

1269
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 2: Trying to push the Wednesday playday on people because they

1270
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: got one coming perhaps as soon as this year on

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Eve.

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: That's been knocked around.

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01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 3: It's different playing on a Wednesday is the opening game,

1274
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 3: because then you've got eleven days.

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01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: It's a run up.

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:05,440
Speaker 3: That's a difference. But whatever, what they can play whatever, Yeah,

1277
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 3: four days is pushing. It's you play on a Sunday

1278
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: it's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then play on Thursday.

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pushing it a Wednesday.

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: You got to give that team a bye or they

1281
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 2: have to play on the previous Thursday.

1282
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: Right, you got to fit it in. I don't know

1283
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 3: how you do that, neither did I?

1284
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: Uh? Back to the topic at hand. What does the

1285
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: new Bills defensive system signal to you? Jim on the tweets,

1286
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,520
Speaker 2: he says, more aggressive defense for a change, shorter drives,

1287
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: better percentage on third down. I'm assuming he's meaning getting

1288
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: off the field may allow a few more big plays.

1289
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: Love it if it equals shorter opponent drives and more

1290
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: possessions for our offense. I mean, it's nice to have

1291
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: that as your approach. We're gonna be aggressive, We're gonna

1292
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: get the ball back for our offense. Sometimes it's easier

1293
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: said than done, especially when you're going against some of

1294
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: the better quarterbacks in the league. Greg says, disruptive, aggressive,

1295
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: calculated risk for reward versus waiting for opposing offense to

1296
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: make a mistake. This only works with quicker players. We

1297
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: have bulls and need some jack rabbits on defense. Greg

1298
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: I could not agree more. The teams speed has to

1299
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: be improved considerably on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: I think right now your two fastest players are probably

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Speaker 2: Hairston and Benford, and after that there aren't a ton

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: of speed demons on this defense. And I think you

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: absolutely need one, probably two at outside linebacker, and in

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01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: my estimation, you do not have that. You just heard

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: Alan Poopar talk about how Bradley Chubb is kind of

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: a cross between a power rusher and a speed rusher.

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: He is neither and relies on technique to be effective,

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: and he has been in his career.

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Speaker 1: Works for him.

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon power rusher, Greg Russo power rusher for the

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: most part, using length to win, not speed. Michael Hoyd

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: can use speed, but doesn't exclusively use it. And what

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: is that speed and explosion going to look like coming

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01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: off an Achilles injury? And then you have Andre Jones,

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01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 2: who I would say is a power rusher. Right, you

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: need some jack rabbits off the edge first.

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01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: In ben you need some guys that can run fast.

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01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 3: That's it's no it's no secret why they time these

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01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 3: guys running. They want fast guys.

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Speaker 1: Dorian Williams can run ahead.

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Speaker 3: The biggest difference in eras in the National Football League

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01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: is not size, it is speed. Speed is the difference.

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01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: Everybody on the on the field gets faster and faster

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: and faster. The big guys that are as big as

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Speaker 3: the front half of a car can run. They can

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01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: all run. That's the difference. And the bigger and faster guy,

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01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 3: the bigger guys across the board at every position are

1328
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 3: getting faster and faster and faster. It's just the way

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01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 3: it is. That's the difference in eras. In the NFL,

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01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 3: you get Billy Kilmer couldn't outrun most offensive linemen these days, Yeah,

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01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: Josh can outrun a number of guys. It's offensive linemen

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 3: can run. Defensive linemen can run, and they're bigger than

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Speaker 3: most of the people you know.

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Speaker 2: But how do you speed up a quarterback's decisi you're

1335
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: making with speed, getting there faster, giving him less time

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: to do that.

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01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: You need speed.

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01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: There's some schemes that can get to the quarterback effectively,

1339
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: but to routinely win and speed up a quarterbacks process,

1340
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: you need fast guys.

1341
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 3: Here's the thing we talk about it. You think, well,

1342
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 3: it's just you're talking about it. A defensive end in

1343
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 3: a four to three lines up outside shade of the

1344
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: tackle right or head up on the tackle at worst,

1345
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 3: and or outside the tight end right. They're that far

1346
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 3: away from the quarterback and a stand up outside linebacker

1347
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: is wider than that, And just that extra little bit

1348
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 3: of distance makes a difference in how fast you've got

1349
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 3: to be to get there. And that's what you know,

1350
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 3: the ten second explosion time. They time that in when

1351
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 3: they time at the same time they time the forty

1352
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 3: that's all extremely important in their analytics. That extra three

1353
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 3: feet at distance from there to the quarterback makes a

1354
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 3: big difference. Is from three feet closer to the quarterback,

1355
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,839
Speaker 3: you're only talking about ten yards as opposed to nine yards.

1356
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 3: It's just those little slivers of space and time are

1357
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: what makes guys a great pass rusher or just a

1358
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: guy yep. And that's that's why they got to find

1359
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 3: those guys. Speed kills. Speed is the thing that makes

1360
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 3: it hard for them to handle you.

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: M Bill's need that tie on the tweet sheet says

1362
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 2: take the ball away. The new additions all seem to

1363
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 2: have that dog mentality we've been missing.

1364
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Speaker 1: Yeah. CJ. Gardner Johnson probably at the head of that list.

1365
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: Guy that plays with an edge, and they need more

1366
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: guys like that on the defensive side of the ball.

1367
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 2: And at the risk of sounding redundant, if you've got

1368
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: a speed demon off the edge, he's gonna be playing

1369
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: with an attitude because he knows he can beat people

1370
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: and he's gonna let people know it.

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01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and they're gonna arrive with Yeah, they're gonna

1372
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: force with some attitude.

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01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1374
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,799
Speaker 2: Connor on the tweet sheet says, bend but don't break

1375
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: is out the window. McDermott's defense was excellent, not letting

1376
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: up the big play, but in my opinion, lacked an

1377
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: aggressive style of play. The new defense will be aggressive,

1378
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: which I think will allow for bigger plays to.

1379
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Speaker 1: Have risk versus reward. Let's talk about that for a second.

1380
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: It's both. Let's talk about that because.

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01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 2: I think hearing aggressive defense sounds great and there are

1382
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: a lot of merits for it. It's the balancing of

1383
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: the risk versus reward that is really the key to

1384
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: that kind of approach. It's when to be aggressive and

1385
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,480
Speaker 2: I guess you would you would use the phrase calculated

1386
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: risk to do that, well, right.

1387
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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, we talked about it earlier in the show.

1388
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,879
Speaker 3: If you make a If you're being an aggressive defense

1389
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 3: and you make a mistake, it's a touchdown against you, right,

1390
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: you're giving it up. That's a problem, and that's your

1391
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 3: inability and your ability to keep that from happening was

1392
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 3: what made the defenses under mcdermot's so good. Teams had

1393
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: to go the long way most of the time. It

1394
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 3: really took a long time for them to score points.

1395
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 3: And a lot of times they they blow it themselves, right,

1396
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 3: But all too many times they were picking up third

1397
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 3: and eleven, third and fourteen, third and nine, third and ten.

1398
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 3: They were picking those up and then converting them because

1399
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 3: the defense was a little finger quotes conservative for most people.

1400
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 3: The difference and the calculation. You have to run your heart,

1401
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: and it's hard to do because you can't get inside

1402
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 3: the mind of the other coaching staff. If you're a coordinator,

1403
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: you want to risk it. You want to risk the

1404
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 3: exotic blitz. You want to go for it. You want

1405
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 3: to put them under pressure. You want to attack them

1406
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: when they're probably not going to be aggressive. You know

1407
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 3: what I mean, When they're aggressive and they got an

1408
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: answer for you. You're standing there rushing the pass of

1409
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: the balls going over your head into your own end zone.

1410
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 3: If you can be aggressive, get and roll the dice

1411
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 3: when they're not expecting it and they don't have the

1412
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 3: touchdown shot over your head even called, that's when you

1413
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 3: do it. And that's what a good coordinator can do.

1414
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: Times under the McDermott era, we saw them evolve into

1415
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 3: this and it got really good. Babbage got good, got

1416
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 3: better at it. The last year when they switched to

1417
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: the three three five alignment, they started to figure out

1418
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 3: what they could do. And almost all the sacks you

1419
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 3: got from the Buffalo Bills were finger quotes coordinator sacks.

1420
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 3: They outsmarted the offense. They had a guy free running

1421
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 3: to the ball. It wasn't a my guy beat your guy,

1422
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 3: no matter what your protection was, let's go. And you know,

1423
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 3: for an old guy like me, I played with Bruce,

1424
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 3: that's that was our deal. Yeah, you call it everyone

1425
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 3: our guy, our guy. You better double team him and

1426
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 3: hope you got pretty good guys doing it, otherwise he's

1427
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 3: gonna get there. But in this day and age, it's

1428
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 3: it's a coordinator sack. Now, certainly Jim Leonard is gonna

1429
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 3: get some of those as well. With a five man front,

1430
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 3: a fifth you know, and a two linebacker, seven guys

1431
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 3: up in the box, maybe eight with a safety walking

1432
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: up whatever. They're gonna outsmart the offensive court. They're gonna

1433
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 3: have the right play call defensively, and it's gonna be aggressive,

1434
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get home. You would like to get

1435
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 3: to a point where you don't have to have your

1436
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 3: coordinator scheming up your sacks all the time.

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01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it kind of felt that way.

1438
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: It felt like that's what it took. It took Bobby

1439
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: Babbage setting up a play, setting up a play, setting

1440
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 3: up plane, finally springing the trap, and getting a sack.

1441
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 3: Whether than just hey, guys, go out there, line up,

1442
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 3: you're better than they are, let's go, that never seemed

1443
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 3: to happen for me.

1444
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: I think you can make an argument that.

1445
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: The Bills may have never had that in the McDermott era,

1446
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: maybe with the exception of the time where Jerry Hughes

1447
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 2: was still on this roster and you had him with

1448
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Ed Oliver.

1449
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: First eight games of Aughn's career here.

1450
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: And Jordan Phillips had a nine and a half sack

1451
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: season that's twenty nineteen.

1452
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 3: Right, And when Vaughn was here, he had an eight

1453
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 3: game where they were like he closed out the Kansas

1454
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 3: City game, forced to all that stuff was going on,

1455
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 3: but it was few and far between. Now you can

1456
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 3: say one of the reasons they never had it was well,

1457
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 3: you can you can point the finger at the GM

1458
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 3: say he never gotten that guy. Well, they were so

1459
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 3: successful they never gotten the high enough picking the draft

1460
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 3: to pick a guy like that. Those guys are genetically

1461
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 3: they're they're that with the except five percent of the

1462
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 3: one percent, with the.

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Speaker 2: Exception of Ed Oliver at pick number nine, right and

1464
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: Ed was and Ed was a defensive.

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Tax you can make us.

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'd like to go back and look

1467
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 3: at that draft and see was there a better pass

1468
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 3: rusher on the edge than Ed in that draft left

1469
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 3: on the board. I don't know. Maybe there was, Uh,

1470
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 3: he certainly wasn't known to be that at the time.

1471
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: So i'm those guys. You gotta you gotta stink to

1472
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 3: get one of those guys, or you gotta steal them,

1473
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 3: or you got to get them after another team's done

1474
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 3: with them, which is what the Bills have done over

1475
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 3: the course of this entire era. But that's what we're

1476
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 3: looking at it. You you would love to have it

1477
01:23:54,720 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: be where you get more at least more sacks, even

1478
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 3: if your coordinator has to scheme him, because you can

1479
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 3: be more creative because you have more versatile athletes and

1480
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 3: more speed up front, rather than having a guy that's

1481
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 3: just better TJ. Watt JJ Watt. You know Aaron Donnell.

1482
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 3: Name your guy, Miles Garrett. Yeah, those guys. Those guys,

1483
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:20,520
Speaker 3: you can't find them.

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01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: So at Oliver went ninth overall. As we know, Rashan

1485
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: Gary went twelfth overall. Brian Burns went sixteenth overall, Jeffrey

1486
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: Simmons went nineteenth overall, but as far as a pure

1487
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: pass rusher, it wasn't until Montes Sweat with the twenty

1488
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: sixth pick. In terms of a defensive end type pass rusher,

1489
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: it was more of a defensive tackle classer early. Because

1490
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: Quinn Williams went third, you're subject to that.

1491
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: Bosa went second overall. That was the premiere pass rusher

1492
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: of that class.

1493
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 3: And he's still with the team that drafted him right

1494
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 3: up as his head. I it's hard. It's the pass

1495
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: rushing thing. It's been a frustration I think for Bill's

1496
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 3: fans because the offense has been so buttoned up. I

1497
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: mean they trade a number one wide receiver in Steph Diggs,

1498
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 3: and they get better on the scoreboard, the quarterback becomes MVP,

1499
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 3: and then the next year after that they got the

1500
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 3: leading rusher in the league. I mean, the offense has

1501
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 3: seemed buttoned up. So when you're looking for problems with

1502
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 3: the roster and with the team and how it's going,

1503
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 3: it's always that pass rush, just because of the way

1504
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 3: the rest of the team has looked and how successful

1505
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 3: it's been.

1506
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here some final thoughts on the

1507
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: tweets sheet when we get back here on one Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by Kalida Health. Back here ill on Bill's Live,

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01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and asking you what the new

1510
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: defensive scheme signals to you for the Bills this fall.

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Speaker 2: Nathan on the tweets sheet says, not playing scared and

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01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 2: playing aggressive. I don't know if they necessarily played scared

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01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: in the past, that's probably not the best description. We

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01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 2: know there is going to be a more aggressive demeanor

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01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 2: to this group as it has been described to us

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01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: thus far, and obviously we'll learn a lot more when

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01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 2: they get on the field and line up and put

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: their best eleven out there. But playing scared, I think

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01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a it's a little bit

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01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: of a misguided description, right in terms of what the

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01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: previous defense had been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a little bit of This is

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01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:56,520
Speaker 3: the context where the entire NFL is right now. Analytics

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01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 3: dominates a lot of decision making on the sideline, a

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01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 3: lot of coaches and a lot of players, and I

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: guess it should there's no more this. Well, we're going

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01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 3: for it because we want to make a statement about

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01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 3: our you know, I get it, But that's what it

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01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 3: looks like sometimes when you lean on analytics and it's

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01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 3: different than it's been in the past.

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Speaker 2: Well, and here's the other thing. You know, not that

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm an apologist for the previous regime, but I think

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01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: you could argue that devoid of a premium pass rusher,

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01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 2: you know, that's routinely getting your double digit sacks every year,

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,879
Speaker 2: and with the injuries that the team sustained on defense

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01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 2: last year, I don't know what else you were supposed

1537
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: to play, you know what I mean? Like that kind

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01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 2: of just keep it all in front of you.

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01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: They had they them go the long way.

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01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 3: They had the head and shoulders of their pass rush

1541
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: chopped off last year with Ed and Mike Hoyd going down.

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01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,839
Speaker 2: So I think that kind of had to be your approach.

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01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: And then to your point earlier, strategically scheme a play,

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01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 2: a play.

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Speaker 1: Or two where you can get them right. You know,

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01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: it got you play and it had to do it.

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Speaker 3: They had to do it that way, and that's you know,

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01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 3: that's that's what NFL coaching is. And certainly you can

1549
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 3: say it was a bad break, he had a wrong

1550
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: injuries and yeah, that's that all plays into the entire thing.

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01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,560
Speaker 3: But when you know, like I'll say it again, you

1552
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta win that last game. Everything comes down

1553
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 3: to that. And and when you start expecting and not

1554
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 3: getting different results, changes come and you need a different philosophy.

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01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: NFL Memes is a fun follow if you don't have

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01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: it on your x account, where they often poke fun

1557
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: at developments in the NFL and the Dolphins are the

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01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: subject of the latest post, which reads, Malik Willis next

1559
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 2: season on the Dolphins. And there's a video of a

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01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: guy standing in a grass field and he throws the

1561
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 2: ball high up into the air forty yards away, like

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01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: twenty yards away from him, and then proceeds to take

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01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 2: off and run underneath it and catch it himself.

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis next season.

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Speaker 3: Good luck man.

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01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: Oh boy, it's gonna be a long year for him

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01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: next year.

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01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 3: I think Malik Willis is gonna have a kind of

1569
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 3: rough year this year because of the guys around or

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01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 3: the lack of guys around him, and then he'll be

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01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 3: a bridge quarterback next year.

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01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 2: He played well for them last year and he had

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01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: to step in for the Packers and that's what earned

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01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: him this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what he does with it. That's it for

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Speaker 1: us today.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I back tomorrow had won more free agency

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Speaker 2: for you, We'll talk to you that