WEBVTT - Jayden Daniels is Making HISTORY | Booth Review Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.080 On today's edition of The Booth Review. That Jaydon Daniels, guy, 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:04.120 he's okay, I. 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.640 Forget about Jade Daniels. It's Austin Cyberman. That guy is 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.240 the spark that started the flame. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.800 And well you are about to see the greatest podcast. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.280 It's World War Two The Booth Review coming up next. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.040 Welcome into the latest edition of The Booth Review podcast. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.000 I'm Bram Weinstein with Logan Paulson. We're back from a 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.520 long flight home from Arizona as we now covered the 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:35.800 greatest team of all time. This is Listen. I want 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:37.600 to get into the you know, like, I love doing 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.400 this with you because we like, we talk so much 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.000 about what we expect, what we're going to see. Everyone 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.160 knows how much film you watch, and like, I love 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.559 how analytical you are about it. But I think there's 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.080 some big picture stuff that we kind of need to 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.159 talk about that By the end of the broadcast, I 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.760 think I turned to you and I go, is this real? 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:57.400 And I think I don't. I can't believe that it is. Yeah, 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:03.680 because it's so beyond expectation and it's so beyond logic. Yeah, really, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.040 be honest, Like, I've never seen anything like this I 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.119 don't know whatever expectations you could have had for Jade 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.479 and Daniels, but at this point it has to exceed 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.240 it or you're lying to yourself. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.720 Yeah it is. It is kind of unbelievable. Like I 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.280 think back to when I played, and you know, all 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:18.920 the football that I watched when I was playing and 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.039 then obviously covering the team, and you know, I just 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.360 don't remember an offense performing with this level of efficiency. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.440 I don't definitely don't remember a rookie performing with this 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.520 level of efficiency. And I think it's it is tremendous. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.440 He's doing a tremendous job, like you said it on 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.320 the broadcast, like he's historic in terms of his performance 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.760 and his efficiency. And I think the thing for me, 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.119 it's like you're trying I try to rationalize it immediately, 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:42.959 like well, why is this? And I mean, obviously I 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.880 know jayde and I watched him. He was I think 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.800 he was one A one B quarterback, you know him. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.440 I was really high in JJ McCarthy at the time, 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:50.440 and I knew we had the sent in, but I 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.480 didn't think it was going to be this level this quickly. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.720 So you say, oh, well, you know, maybe Arizona's defense 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.600 isn't that good. Maybe you know, Cincinnati's defense isn't that good, 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.280 and that's allowing him to be more efficient, and so 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.200 you're always kind of trying to guard against it. But 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.520 irrespective of the level of defense that he's going against, like, 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.440 the decisions that he's making and the consistency of the 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.240 decisions is something that you don't see like you ever, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.440 and it's it's just incredible to watch. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.919 It's partially my job to try to contextualize and every 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.839 week I laugh about this. Every week I'm writing down 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.320 notes that say things like, not since World War Two 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:31.000 has this happened, or now we're referencing the ninety one team, 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.360 which might be the greatest NFL team ever, the last 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.560 Super Bowl championship team from Washington, where they had one 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.239 of the greatest offenses and defenses going at the same time. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.560 And then you see metrics like no quarterback through a 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.840 four game span has a completion percentage as high as 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.080 his ever, not the start of season, ever, at any 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:58.200 point in any season ever, he has metrics of we're 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.800 saying trestway and punted for two. That has a lot 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.480 to do with him operation of the offense that hadn't 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.560 happened in this organization in eighty plus years, since before 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:11.600 they were doing stats about punts. You know, Like every 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:16.080 week I'm reading these they're absurd statistics that are based 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.400 around him. Yeah, you know, like I don't want to 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.560 take anything away from Cliff Dan all the offensive players. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.400 We can get into all of them, but this is 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.120 based around what I think is singularly, for a month, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.960 the greatest season any rookie quarterback has ever had, at 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.280 least in a small sample size. There is nothing like 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.600 this from what we see to how they're performing and 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.400 what the statistics and metrics are, there's nothing like this 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:43.520 that's ever happened. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.560 Yeah, and I think you brought up a really good 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.480 point there. The sample size is something that I always 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.880 keep coming back to, like everyone can play well for 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.640 four or five games, you know, which he's done, But 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.840 it's the consistency of this, and it's like, is this 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.080 a sustainable approach? You know? I think that's the thing 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.520 I keep it. It's incredible, Like you did such a 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.360 great job of putting that in context, because the more 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.920 you look at it, the more I think about it. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.080 It's just it's unbelievable that what he's been able to do. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.600 But can you sustain this level of play? And I 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.000 know you said all it's him, it's center ound him, 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.680 But like I think you got to give credit to 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.520 the organization for how they handled it, you know what 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.440 I mean, you got credits. Got to give credit to 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.880 Cliff too. I mean, Cliff has called a really effective 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.400 football game the last two weeks, like more than effective, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.680 like brilliant in some cases. But I also think to 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.359 support your point, like Cliff is insulated by Jayden and 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.719 what he's able to do in terms of being efficient, 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.480 knowing when to scramble, knowing how to pick up first downs, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.760 stealing yardage, and it just makes everything so much more 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.520 efficient for the offense. And so it's it's really everything. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.120 It's the coordinator, it's the receivers, it's the detail with 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.960 which they're approaching stuff. It's his communication style, Jayden's I'm 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.400 talking about. So there's a lot of extremely extremely positive 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.440 stuff here that it's hard to Maybe we did, but 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.000 it's hard to overstate how impactful he's been. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.880 No, I mean, like it just I've never seen anything 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:06.320 like this. It's so ahead, it's there are really great 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.440 quarterbacks in the NFL, Great great quarterbacks that spend years 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.720 getting to the point to do what he's doing on 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.840 a weekly basis, and he's doing it out of the gates. 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:21.719 And I think that's what's so unusual and hard to believe. Yeah, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.360 it's just hard to believe. And I think that's why 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.479 I like a lot of people are going, is this real? 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.360 Because it doesn't feel really. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.640 But I think that's the thing. Is it real? Like, yeah, 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.240 obviously this is real in terms of the performance, But 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:34.599 and we were talking about this before the show, like 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.960 is it sustainable? It seems impossible to sustain this level 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.000 of performance for any player. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.520 Like doing things Tom Brady didn't do it. He won 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:42.320 seven Super. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.440 Bowl That's what I'm saying. So it seems impossible. But 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.240 even if it normalizes by ten percent percentage points, he's 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.120 still completing seventy five percent of his passes. He's still 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.320 in the top ten, top you know, kind of ten 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.400 percent of quarterbacks in terms of completion percentage. Like, he's 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.960 still doing special things even if it regresses by ten 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.760 or fifteen percent. So what I'm assuming is that at 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.000 some point we'll run into a buzzsaw of a defense 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.159 that will regress a little bit, but even that level 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.680 of performance would still be pretty spectacular. So I don't know, Man, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.080 it's a lot of fun to call the games because 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:17.240 everything it feels like I'm playing Madden, you know Madden 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.159 when the difficulties turned down a little bit and you 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.080 can just do whatever you want. Like, that's what this 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.360 feels like. And it's got to come back there at 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.599 some point. But man, it's a lot of fun to watch. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.360 Well, and there's so many like different moments where you go, Okay, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.240 it's great, he did this in the first half. But 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.520 when it's third and seven at the twenty seven with 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.640 the game on the line on Monday night football against 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.360 the Bengals who have to win the game, what's he 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.480 going to do? Then? Oh, I don't know, He's gonna 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.880 throw maybe the best pass with this organization has seen 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.719 in thirty years, right, and he's going to throw it 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.279 to the guy who needed to make this catch to 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.080 prove you know that he's able to do it. And 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.440 then he does it again the drive where they sealed it, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.520 where he threw the touchdown past the terry. On this one. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.320 They had three penalties on that drive, including a fifteen 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.600 yard taunting penalty, which might have been a little much, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.039 but whatever, they had to over come it. Early in 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.080 the season. What was two weeks ago, we're saying, can 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.159 they overcome their mistakes? They made all those mistakes in 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.120 the Giants game, and they ended up kicking a bunch 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.719 of field goals and they got away with a win. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.960 In this one. Two weeks later, they have a drive 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.560 with three penalties on it, score anyway, have a third 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.960 and goal to ten, score anyway. It's like nothing seems 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.560 to get in his way. Yet it's almost it's too good. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.120 Yeah, too yeah, And again that's where you kind of say, 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.200 and that's where I understand fans sentiment about oh is 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.720 this real? Is this is this sustainable? I don't know, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.160 but I'm going to enjoy it while it's here. And 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.920 I think the other thing is his poise that people 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.960 throw that word around, his composure. It sticks out to you, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.120 and I think it's infecting the offense in a very 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.960 positive way because there are these moments where third and ten, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.080 Like I've been with quarterbacks who are excellent, you know, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.560 some of the best you know of their generation, and 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.120 the things Matt Ryan, who's gonna be a Hall of 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.840 Fame quarterback and so like. But there were moments in 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.720 third and ten where you could feel the stress of 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.880 the offense, and when you're watching this offense, you don't 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.440 feel the stress. Yeah, we'll figure it out, you know. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.400 And they believe in him. He believes in them, like 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.520 everyone is kind of carrying the emotional weight of the 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.440 moment appropriately and they execute it and to consistently as 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.400 a group execute like that. And it's not just Terry, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.800 it's not just Zach. I mean, oh, z is eighty 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.679 yards receiving in that game, right, Brian Robinson, you know, Jerryman, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.000 big Nichols. Like the fact that they're able to lose 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.240 one of the most explosive pieces of their offense and 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.240 not miss a beat offensively with your third string running 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.240 back is incredible. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.360 Well, they named him a captain, you know, and I 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.840 think some of it was he replaced Eckler through this 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.559 crazy block that kind of went viral in the Cincinnati 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.040 game that was part of the third and seven touchdown play. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.720 Jaden took a hit because they overloaded and it brought numbers. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.080 But McNichols had this great block, and then of course 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.520 he had to play he comes in, he hadn't scored 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.480 a touchdown in three years. He scores two in the game. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.200 He has one of the best runs we've had all 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.600 year when they run on the edge. We saw this 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.720 with Eckler a week ago, that we've seen it with 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.040 b Rob. We saw it on the touchdown run with 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.640 Jaden there executing at such an enormous high level. It is. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.400 That's the other part that I think is shocking because 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.959 McNichols didn't play in this offense before. It's a new 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.240 offensive coordinator, that's a rookie quarterback. The garden, the center 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.520 weren't here last year. Luke McCaffrey is a rookie. Zach 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.440 Ertz everyone said his career was basically over. His here 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.400 hadn't played here before. There are a few carryovers playing 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:28.280 on this and they're going together, and they're setting marks 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.679 that some of the greatest teams in the history of 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.520 the game have not met. They're scoring more points per 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.200 drive than the twenty thirteen Broncos, who are the highest 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.880 scoring team in NFL history. And again, I know it's 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.800 only a month, but add that all up with what 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.400 this mixture is, It's why I think I keep coming 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.679 back to how can this possibly be real? 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.080 Yeah? Yeah, and again like it's an the only time 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:53.520 we'll tell, you know. I think when we did our 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.760 interview with Dan afterwards and we were like trying to 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.680 kind of be like, congratulations, this is incredible, this is historic, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.840 He's like, we're not riding that roller coaster and we're 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.400 taking it one game at a time. And that's the 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.560 only way you can have, I think a sustained level 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.640 of success in the NFL is if you just approach 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.320 it like this is like, you know, like there's no pass, 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.520 there's no present, there's just this moment, there's just this game. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.679 And so I think if they can maintain that, and 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.600 I think that's the hard thing with football and with 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.360 any sport really is maintaining that consistency of mindset is 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.720 almost impossible, you know. But if you've got the right people, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.200 You've got your Tom Brady's, your Peyton Mannings or Drew Brees. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.679 And through the first four weeks, Jaydan Daniels is kind 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.120 of the mindset. He's never too high, he's never too low. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.080 He's kind of right in the middle. It's perfect. And 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:35.720 I think the other thing you were talking about there, 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.360 you know, with the offensive line and you know, the 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.520 execution of the offense. One of the things that sticks 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.040 out to me about this group that is so unusual 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.200 is that they're not always perfect. It's not always perfect execution. Obviously, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.280 sometimes it's perfect, like you know, think about you know, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.319 watching the Baltimore Bill's game last night and there's that 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.360 Derek Henry run where no one touches him and it's 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.360 perfectly blocked. Haat on hat. There's been a ton of 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.800 runs this year, explosive places where it's perfect. And then 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.040 the game, you know, on Jeremy McNichols run, like their 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.200 defensive end plays it really well. He kind of chins 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.880 Allegraty's trying to pulling out the edge like you know 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.320 that it should be a big pile there. But McNichols 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.640 makes a play right. And then there's ones where Jaden 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.079 Daniels vacates pockets and makes the offensive line elevates them 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.160 and there's a receiver open down the field he completes 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.040 the pass. And so the idea that like, even though 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.240 the execution of the offense seems to be very high, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.520 there are times where people are just making plays and 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.000 the plays are coming from everyone and I think that's 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.640 what makes this especially unique is it's obviously Jade Daniels 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.359 carrying a line share of that, but for the receivers, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.000 for the running backs, for all these different people to 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:45.040 elevate in the right moments and score touchdowns is the 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:46.920 thing that I think makes it special. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.920 Yeah, I want to say one more thing just about 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.760 Jayden and trying to try to contextualize what's going on here. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:57.240 So when the draft was coming around, in my opinion, 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.280 and I would defer to you a million times over, 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.199 I actually didn't think it was a hard choice between 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.320 him and Drake May assuming the Williams was going to 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.600 go number one, which is what we all kind of assumed. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.920 I didn't think so for a couple of reasons, Like 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.440 the experience that he had. He went from Arizona State 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.680 to LSU. That's a jump. It's a big jump. No 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.800 offense to Arizona State and the league that they play 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.720 in or did play in, but like it is a 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.800 massive jump. The SEC might as well be triple A NFL. Right, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.920 And he got better, and all you heard about him 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.719 was the work ethic, all the stuff he's doing. He's 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.400 getting better. Then he has a season for the ages 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.480 right at LSU, and he throws six interceptions and the 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.520 only thing you could nitpick about it was he took 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.320 some cartoonish hits along the way, but everything else was 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.040 And then you hear the stuff, and you hear the stuff, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.120 and you hear this stuff and it comes along and 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.200 one flying home last night, what occurred to me was, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.760 this guy's been a professional for a while. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.320 Well he is now football now though too. They're all professionals. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.040 You're getting paid, their endorsements, whole. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.800 Thing, right, But I mean, I mean, he's a professional 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.320 at his core. That it's not just that he's a 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.080 superior athlete, which goes along with this, but that he 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.880 takes this so seriously, that he's a professional. He's with 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.040 his peers now like he's actually come into a place 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.040 where everyone else takes it as seriously as he does. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.640 Not that the coach EXAPF at LSU as Arizona State didn't, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.720 but the players around him. If you're at this level 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.560 and you're a Terry McLaurin, or you're a Sam Cosmy, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.640 or you're a Brian Robinson or Jeremy McNichols who's bouncing 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.120 around the league and the only way he stays alive 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.320 is by being extremely serious about what he does. Jamee 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.920 Daniels walks in in his peer group, and I think 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:43.240 I'm seeing this in real time. He's belonged here for 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.640 a while, whether it's Washington or anywhere, I mean the NFL. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.720 He's belonged in this league differently than others. And I 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.160 think it's showing because he clearly has the work ethic, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.760 the acumen and then the gift of the incredible athletic 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.560 ability to do this at a high level immediately. And 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.080 I think it's caught because even the coaches, Cliff said 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:09.680 it before the Bengals, Gaby goes, he's executing beyond our expectation. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.400 And I think what we're seeing here is it wasn't 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.600 just the work ethic and all this stuff. He's with 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.560 his peer group. Now, that's what seems to be obvious 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:17.920 to me. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.040 Yeah, it's definitely the professionalism, the preparation, all those types 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.800 of things. And you mentioned the comparison between him and 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.880 Drake May. And you know it's funny in quarterback evaluation, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.680 like when you're trying to project it, you know what 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.480 I'm saying, Like, obviously this intangible stuff you just mentioned 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.560 is huge, but also the stuff that the physical stuff 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.480 that maybe at the time is undervalue, like the quick release. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.560 You see what that does. I mean there's probably I 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.400 don't know, I think they had twenty They had thirty 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.520 five throws in the game, thirty five passing opportunities in 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.280 the game, and on ten of them it's the ball 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.520 is completed because of his ability to release the football 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.840 so quickly from his hand. You talk about his base 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.440 and the ability to throw off platform and like kind 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.000 of come to balance quickly with his feet. There's probably 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.160 another five to ten throws there, you know, that that 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:03.960 are off of that kind of ilk. And then there's 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.200 the elite stuff where he's you know, reading through and 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.280 making these excellent progressions which you didn't show a lot 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.080 of in college. But the intellectual foundation with the physical 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.000 skill set and then the kind of the blossoming of 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.640 it as the offense has allowed him to blossom. Yeah. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.440 I think is the thing that maybe you're alluding to 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.720 there that I think is well extremely interesting. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.080 Ye know. The other thing too, and this is I 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.320 want to get into a couple of plays with you 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:26.880 in a minute, But the other thing too that stands 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.480 out is through all of this like he's head down, humble. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.560 You wouldn't You wouldn't feel it, see it, you you 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.640 it did not emanate from him. Yeah, Like last night 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.560 we're talking to him. He's off of this Monday night game. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.800 They never come back. He goes as to practice where 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.840 he played college football, so there's a storyline there. Shows up. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.120 We're all asking, how are they going to what's the 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.440 encore of that one? He's twenty one to twenty three. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.680 It's the greatest singular performance by a rookie quarterback ever. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.080 It happens in front of the world. Joe Buck and 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.000 Troy Aikman are calling it. Steven A's calling him greatest 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.080 quarterback of all time. You know that's naturally going. Aaron 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.600 Rodgers is talking about him. It's like naturally going to 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.040 happen that everyone's going to explain how great he is. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.720 After three games, you don't feel it from him. And 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.120 he walks out there and they now have more scoring 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.760 drives than incompletions and you wouldn't know it. Yeah, when 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.240 you talk to he's got this head down, like, man, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.760 I just played my game. We did what we did. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.520 We can get better and next week's important too, and 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.280 you get that feeling from him. It wasn't just Quinn 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.200 trying to go guys, don't tell anybody about this. It's 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.680 him going no, no, no, I'm of the same mindset. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:33.800 Let me get back in the film room with Cliff 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.880 and Dan. You'll see we're gonna get better. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.360 Yeah, there was. You know, like he doesn't he's a 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:39.920 man of few words in our post game and he 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:44.160 says the right things, but like his demeanor, it is inspiring, 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:45.960 you know as a former player, Like you know, I 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.240 think about all the guys that've been around good football players, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.840 and he's got something to him like this kind of 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.280 this magnetism, and you know when the players talk about 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.640 it like those like how he handles himself in the press, 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.920 or how he's never too high, he's never too low. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.840 He's competitive in the right moments, he's he's he's he's 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.560 got the kind of that innate leadership quality you know 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.840 that comes with how he plays the game. It's it's 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.400 it's very cool, it's very special, and I just hope 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.880 that he can continue to maintain that because I think 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.160 the one thing I've seen with players that are really 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.680 talented is that you know, Robert Griffin is a great example. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.440 Like I love playing with Robert. I think he was 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.320 a great teammate when things were going well, but there 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.959 was a there was some issues there and and it 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.520 came from the city, you know, it came from the 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.960 expectations of him, and so you need to be a 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.680 special person to handle that. Yeah, I think. I think 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.399 that's something that I keep going back to, is like 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.320 he is going to be tested emotionally in a way 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.240 that is hard for anyone in this area to fathom. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.080 I think as it worked out, it was better off 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.840 they flew to Arizona after what happened at Cincinnati because 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.840 everybody's so excited, and for good reason, everyone's really excited. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.119 They should be the other thing, Like, I want to 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:53.639 go through a couple of plays with you that he 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.959 had because we like every week we're seeing something different. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.600 They test him differently and coming into the aras a game, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.160 and I like Jonathan Gannon, like I think maybe they're 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.120 a touch short on some talent in certain spots. However, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.000 they play very fast and they use very interesting blitz 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:16.520 schemes and Dennis Gardek is outstanding, like very wily, sneaky player, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.520 Buddha Baker's flashing again this year. Zaven Collins has really 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.520 come around since they kind of moved his position. Mac 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.280 Wilson's really fast and they do these kind of unique, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.879 very exotic blitz things. Middle of the game, I turned 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.560 to you and I go, I don't know how many 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.280 times I've called that they're rushing three or four. They 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.600 backed off. They backed off, and the only conclusion I 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.040 could come to was they were scared he was going 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.080 to run on them, and they were worried that they 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.200 wouldn't be able to contain him. But maybe I don't 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.280 know how Why do you think they did what they 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.800 did because everything on film leading up to it they 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.399 were not as passive in the previous games as they 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:51.080 were in this one. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.159 Yeah, and I definitely think they kind of went from 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.280 you know, hey, we're going to bring this like simulated 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.520 fourmat pressure from a five down look, we're going to 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:59.400 drop the ends out and rush them in a linebacker, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.040 to bringing that same pattern, but instead of rushing them 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.360 at a linebacker, he became a spy and they did 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.200 that a bunch, and obviously they did bring pressure. I 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.040 think there was a play to Terry McLaurin. There was 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.159 like an under route by he was number one to the 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.920 left side under they were bringing six all out, and 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.640 again talk about the poison, talk about the awareness of 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.800 you know, getting the football, kind of throwing off your 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.960 back foot, delivering a strike to Terry on the inside 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.000 shoulder blade their shoulder pad there. That gets defenses out 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.000 of it when it shows that, hey we have answers 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.439 versus pressure, we don't feel as comfortable doing it. But 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.720 to your point, I do think that they definitely were 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.040 not as aggressive. And I will say this too. I 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.359 think credit goes to Cliff, credit goes to the offense. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.280 Credit goes to Jane and in that they were able 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.919 to stay in third and manageable way more than I 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.480 was expecting, Like third and four, third and three, third 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:44.840 and two. 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.320 Why you thought what they were what sell out on 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:47.640 the run. 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.399 No, So I just I just thought, like, it's it's tough. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.280 It's tough to because that's what they did against Cincinnati. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.000 It's tough to maintain those manageable third downs. It's like 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:56.600 kind of like the thing we were talking about earlier. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.359 It's like is this real? Can you do this consistently? 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.439 And Ayden's ability to scramble, not for twenty five yards 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.719 but for four yards here, five yards here, get us 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:06.960 in a third and one, get us in a third 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.120 and two is extremely valuable. And if I'm Jonathan Gann, 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.960 and I can't bring any of my exotic stuff in 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.080 those down in distances because it doesn't match up from 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.399 a coverage standpoint with the run stuff that we can 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.720 do from the short guarded situation. So I think that's 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.840 one element. I think the run of Jane's ability to 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.840 scramble was huge because there were some second long's third 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.639 lungs where they didn't do it. They chose not to 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.639 do it, But I think it was kind of a 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.520 combination of thing. And I think when you look at 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.280 game flow and game efficiency in this game specifically and 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.720 in Cincinnati, think about like, this team is very rarely 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.760 over this two game one streak, and even against New 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.840 York in a third and long situation because of Jade 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:45.600 and Daniels. Even on a bad play, there was a 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.840 couple where there's pressure, he scrambles out, he gets up 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.720 in the pocket, he pitches the ball to zach Ertz, 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.560 and that seems like a nothing play, But if you 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.680 take a sack there, that's third and twelve, and they 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.880 are bringing something crazy the next down, you better right. 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.680 To force him to throw it under. They'll never get 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:01.560 the first time you're punting. 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:03.399 Yeah, they're going to bring some crazy blitz like we 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.800 talked about, like all those exotic pressures that they showed. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.320 But now no, now we're in a third and three 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.560 and we can live here and you can't do what 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.480 you want to do. And so I think in terms 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.320 of one of the metrics that I kind of want 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.520 to keep an eye on is how readily they can 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.680 stay in those positive down and distance for the offense, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.720 because it's huge. It's huge in terms of down and 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.480 down efficiency. And again the credit goes to Jaden because 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.200 there's times where Cliff calls to play and they cover 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.600 it and he scrambles for five and all of a sudden, 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.280 you're like, that should have been a sack, That should 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.200 have been an incompletion. That' said at worst case second 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.640 and ten and said we're at second and four and 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.919 we can run, we can play action pass, we can 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:40.679 run a keeper, we can run zone read, we can 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.760 run RPO. It's all on the table there, and that 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.680 down in distance and you have to respect everything defensively, 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.359 so you can't be in these unsound third down pressure 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.200 looks like that. They showed on one. 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.840 Of the scoring drives touchdown drives, and you're gonna have 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:54.320 to look up what one it is because I'm confused 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:55.959 now I can't remember, but it was in the second half. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.879 You're going to remember this because it was one of 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.040 the first times that we've seen him kind of get 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.160 caught and have to throw off his back foot and 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.600 he was sliding to his left, and it was one 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:09.280 of the first times he wasn't totally set the way 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.879 we're typically seeing him set. It was like one of 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.879 the first times I've seen him caught and somewhat surprised 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.560 by something that a defense did. He's there a strike anyway, Yeah, 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.199 I think it was McCaffrey who caught that one. Yeah, 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.040 and that was had to have been what read three. 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:27.680 No way, he's the primary receiver on that throw. There's 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:28.480 no chance on it. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.359 And so yeah, I went back and watched that today 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.040 and it was in like the low red It was like, 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:33.520 I think it was on like the twenty five yard 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.600 line maybe, and he's looking to terry to the left. 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:37.760 They match it really well. They've been They've had a 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:39.720 lot of success running kind of like this little stick 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.119 concept or a spot concept. Receiver runs a five yard stop, 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.159 the back runs some type of flare, you know what 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.960 I mean. They set on the covered really well. He 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.480 resets his feet and is able to deliver kind of 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.159 like he's like a little open with his stance and 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.560 usually when he's opening it with his stance like the 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:58.040 ball's errant. But delivers an absolute dime to Luke. And 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.240 again the ability to she showed a very good but 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.560 mobility so far over the last three games to say 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:07.080 no get my feet lined up. Yes, and he had 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.440 some really fantastic throws in this game. That was one 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.720 of them. Obviously, the touchdown to Terry was incredible over 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.560 the middle of the field. He had one to Noah 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.240 Brown on a ten yard out where it's cover three. 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.280 There's a hook player right under the out. He just 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.040 kind of layers it right over. It's one that Terry 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:21.679 kind of toe taps down there. We weren't sure if 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.199 it was a catch in the booth. And so in 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:28.160 addition to all of the game efficiency metrics that we've 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.400 been talking about, I thought in this game too, there 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:34.600 was some really spectacular just talented throws. You know, there 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.359 was one where it's third and thirteen, one of the 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.400 rare third and thirteens. They bring a line stunt, he 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.280 gets confused, he's kind of fallen away from it, and 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.360 Noah Brown's kind of standing of the first down marker 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.320 waving his hands and he kind of side arm three 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.880 quarter releases it. And that's something that if he has 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.359 that in the bag too, it's just like, in addition 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:56.359 with the efficiency, you're just like, man like this guy again, 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.600 he doesn't have maybe the arm horsepower that like a 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.040 Josh Allen does. The arm talent, the ability to layer throws, 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:06.679 the quick release, the ability to intellectually probably yeah yeah. 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.080 No, no, we may not have Allen's arm, but. 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.520 And I make that comparison because he's got the best 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.520 arm in the league, you know, you know, like and 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:15.879 that's you don't need it and he's done. He's shown 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.240 that the other arm talent stuff like the other the 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:22.360 different release points, the quickness of the release, the quickness 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:26.359 of the feet, the ability layer throws. That stuff is huge. 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.680 And you think about like Tom Brady, for example, who 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.520 made a career doing that stuff. Drew Brees all the 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:33.680 all the kind of top guys of the last generation 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.480 or that last era of football. That's how they made 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.399 a living. And so for him to start showing that stuff. 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.600 And again, it's not every throw, it's not every down. 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.200 And Cliff's done a good job of kind of saying, 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.399 hey man, we're going to manage you. We run quick game, 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.240 run keepers, we run playpass. Those are easier downs and 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.480 distance for the court, those are easier downs for the 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.920 quarterback period. But then to see these exceptional moments when 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.879 Cliff does ask him to do more is again it 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.120 kind of gets me really excited for his potential. 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.119 I mean, there was a no, I can't remember what 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.720 point in the game it was, but he just outlet 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.120 it to a wide open John Bates because things had 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.639 just broken down, and he throws over it. So he found, 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.600 you know, outlet four on a play. And this is 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.760 where again, these this is why these metrics, these numbers, 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.800 they're not aberrational. And that's why it keeps coming back 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.960 to how could this possibly be real? He's only played 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.760 four games in the NFL. Each of these defenses have 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.920 brought something completely different to him. Each and every week. Right, 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.960 So Tampa Bay comes in with the typical exotic blitzes. 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.520 They said all week they were gonna do it, and 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.640 they did it. Right, The Giants don't do that now 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.119 that wing Martindale's gone. They brought what twenty percent whatever 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.040 they did, he got to see something completely different. Cincinnati 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.760 was a good mix, right, we thought, go did They're 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.560 not gonna let them run the ball that easily. They're 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.679 gonna make him throw and prove that he could do it. 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.040 He did. And then this one, if you had watched 0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:53.920 Arizona coming in, you would have thought that they would 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.160 have brought more pressures than they did. They dropped out 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.760 of them and he was a locksmith again. He's picked 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.280 every safe. Yeah, you know, it's like it's right, that's 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:05.200 the most. That's the other part of this, like they're 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:09.840 facing very different game plans against him, like they're trying 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.320 to react to him and he's a step ahead. 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.440 Yeah. And I think again you got to give credit 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.439 to Cliff there. And then this is where you know, 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.920 for your football nerds out there listening to this podcast, 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.880 the game flow here is so critical because I think 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.560 we ran seventy one offensive plays. I think thirty five 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.280 passes whatever it is, twenty nine runs whatever. I don't 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.919 remember the exact numbers, but the ability to run the 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.119 football is effectively they did again, that keeps you. I 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.760 positive down in distance, That keeps you Those are de 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.919 leverage moments. So like again, I'm always making comparisons to 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.240 last year. People always ask me, oh, is this is 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.280 this just an indictment of sanhal Is this an indictment 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.240 of the old line. No, it's just when you leverage 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.280 a group and you leverage a position to say this 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.000 is this is always hard for you. You're going to 0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.640 make mistakes. And so I look at again, Cliff's done 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.320 a great job. We stick with their on Those are 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.119 easy downs for the quarterback, right, not a lot of 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.760 decision making involved game, Not a lot of decision making involved. 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:03.399 We got to be quick with our release. He's handled 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.680 that really well. The keepers, the boots, the play action. 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.199 There's another ten plays. He's only leveraged, only leverage in 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.800 terms of high leverage decision moments in this Arizona game, 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.439 maybe twelve times, which is how you want him to operate. 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.520 And then as he gets more comfortable, that number can 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:19.600 jump to fifteen or twenty or whatever it is. But 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.160 I think that's the thing that's that is I get 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.600 so I think you just have to give Cliff and 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.800 this offensive staff and the head coach credit because they understand, 0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.160 like look what they did with Caleb Williams in Chicago, 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.520 like very leveraged all the time, and it's hard, it's 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.359 hard to play football like that in the NFL in 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.840 twenty twenty four. But they understand we got to keep 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.720 him in. And the other thing about this game that 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.400 I think is incredibly important is the defense played well. Yes, 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.200 they played really well, and it allows you to never 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.240 depart from our goal as a team, which is to 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.119 run the football, be conservative as a passer. And then 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:53.760 when we got to have it on third and long, 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:55.760 whatever we're in, we feel like we got to take 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.480 a shot, that's when we put a little bit more 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.159 pressure on him, and he's ruders into the occason every. 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:01.879 I mean honestly too, Like people laughed a him and 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.399 I said during camp, I go, look, go look at 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.840 the profile of this team and tell me this is 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:07.920 not maybe close to a fifty to fifty run team 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.960 if this is what they want to be, and people 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:11.960 nobody does that in the NFL. Anymore. Well, I'm like, 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.000 this team will go look at the players that they have. 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.320 You're setting does that now? Yeah? But coverage structures, like 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.760 if you watch all twenty two film, coverage structures are 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.640 absolutely insane now. And if you're not one of these 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.320 great processors like Tom Brady and Tampa Bay right before 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.920 I retired, or name your elite passer maybe even but 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.840 even even when you watch like the Bills, for example, 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.040 they're able to insulate him because he's such a good runner, right, 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.400 and you just cannot do it anymore. That's why you're 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.920 seeing a huge uptick in EPA in rush efficiency. It's 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.360 becoming a more valuable play because everyone's playing two shell. 0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.400 And it's not just straight two shell. It's not like 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.440 Madden Cover two. It's like this Ameeba Cover four match 0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.440 where it's like it can play like two versus this 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.160 looking and play like six versus this. It's hard to 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.280 read for quarterbacks. So let's simplify it. Let's get you 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.760 to simplify your fire cover structure by how we run 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.120 the football. And I have a having a quarterback who 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.080 can elevate and run when he has to and extend 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.200 the down. So I think that's what that's what's so important. 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:13.400 It's like this there's a transition happening, I think in 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.200 the NFL because quarterback experience is so low. You need 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.280 to become more efficient at running the football. So to 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.080 your point, it's like, it's not only what this team 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.240 has to do, it's what the majority of teams in 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.320 the NFL are going to be forced to do to be. 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.240 Successful, and quarterback experience is really low, with the exception 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.240 of this particular quarterback who's coming in with a high 0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.960 level of experience. He's played a ton, he played for 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.000 a professional coach at Arizona State and Herm Edwards. He's 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.080 played for a guy who probably could be a professional 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.720 coach and Brian Kelly if he wanted to be at LSU. 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.719 He walks in the door here with a work ethic 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.400 that has shown its way through his improvement through his 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.800 collegiate career, and it's lasted to this point, so no 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.200 surprises ahead of the curve. Maybe part of this alteration 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.560 has helped him jumps are his own career because they 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.840 don't have to ask him to do maybe a million 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.680 different things that maybe previous younger quarterbacks had to deal with. 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.720 Yeah, and I get, yeah, that's that's that's for sure true. 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.760 And it's also true that like Cliff's done a great 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.280 job of making it easy for him, like just and 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.320 I look at it and I think to myself, like, 0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.200 you know, I'm a high school offensive coordinator, and Cliff 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.840 has taken a principle of just making it easy and 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.000 applied it to the highest level. And so in some 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.960 ways it's like a masterclass of like saying this is 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.080 the easiest we can make it for you. I'm not 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.480 going to leverage you. And again, I'm not saying Jayden 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.560 can't do these things, because he's shown the ability to 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.520 do those things. It's just when it's supposed to be easy, 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.320 how easy can I make it? And one big criticism 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.120 I was listening to something the Athletic Athletic put out 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.640 about Saint Shane Waldron about how there is no easy 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.240 in his offense. It's all kind of these high leverage, 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.520 very challenging throws. It's like you need easy stuff for 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.720 the quarterback. And I think you got to give Cliff 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.840 as much credit, not all the credit, but a lot 0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.840 of credit because the easies are easy and Jade's making 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.720 them look easy and he's hitting on him, which is important, 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.280 but he's the setup for those are just incredible and 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.800 he deserves a ton of credit again just to de 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.760 leverage that position as much as he can. So when 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.240 we got to have it, when you got to have these, 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.040 these these masterful moments where he's got to draw on 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.840 his experience and the coaching that he had at Arizona 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.760 State and the experience he gained at LSU. He can, 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.000 but he doesn't have to do it all the time. 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:23.840 I want to transition to the defense at a second, 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:25.239 but just one more thing on just the offense as 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.280 a whole, which really was noticeable Monday night carried over again. 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.000 They're winning at the line. Their offense is more physical 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.680 than the defensive players they are facing. This is now 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.760 a couple of weeks in a row, saw Andrew Wiley 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.800 just saying how much he loves it. You can tell 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.800 how re engaged he is in this offense as opposed 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.000 to what they had. Cosmy continues to progress, has these 0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.800 laughable trucking moments where you could see the pro bowl 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:52.480 level that's coming out of him. Baddish has been an upgrade. 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:57.320 He's had tough tasks the first couple of weeks, Lawrence Vidavea. 0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.520 People like that. Alec Reddy's been good for them. They're 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.800 sitting here with They're rotating tackles, no problem, Colevit's getting better. 0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:09.240 They're both playing well. Physicality of senate physicality of Nick 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:14.000 Nichols physicality. Yes, like when Quinn talks about this physicality. 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.280 We talked to him after the game. I said, you know, people, 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:17.800 when you hear you say you're gonna like how we 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.440 get down, everyone thinks of you as that defensive minded thing. 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.640 What they saw in Dallas, what they saw in Seattle, 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.960 what they saw in Atlanta. It's happened on the offense 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.840 with the way the coverage units the offense where they 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.600 are extraordinarily physical and winning. And for all of the 0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.600 stuff that we talk about, this scheme, that scheme make 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.320 it easy. This guy needs to do this, This guy 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.920 needs to do that. Sometimes this game is about are 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.600 you going to be stronger and more physical and more 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.960 aggressive than the other team, because at its core, that's 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.520 what this sport is, and this team on that side 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.520 of the ball has definitively been that. So while Jaden's 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.120 been outstanding and the schemes have been great, the timing 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.480 of the calls. Chef's kiss right, I've been really great. 0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.160 The physicality has stood out to me too. This looks 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:03.400 like the old Washington teams with the Hogs running people over. 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.640 You want nothing to do with their running backs late 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.960 in the game because they're gonna bowl you over. They 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.360 get positive yardage every single time. It's a physical unit 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:11.920 up there right now. 0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:13.320 Yeah, I think you know, you mentioned a lot of 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.120 guys there, and b Rob deserves us on our credit too, 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.080 because there's times where it's not always clean and he's 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.000 just a big body getting downhill. And like there was 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.560 I think it was the first or second run they 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.760 had from scrimmage, and it was a little bit messy. 0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.200 There's a guy at his feet and he and I'm like, oh, 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.560 that's a you know, in my mind just watching the clip, 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.480 I'm like, oh, that's a that's a that's a near 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.200 zero game run, like there's no way, but ends up 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.120 their fourth and they're second and six, you know what 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.200 I mean. So he fought scratch and claude and that 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.800 they pushed the pile and the offensive lines grinding for 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.080 four yards and that might not seem like a lot, 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.040 but again it just keeps you in a position where 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.760 you can be effective. So yeah, and again they made 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.640 the decisions to bring those guys in and then to 0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.480 elevate guys that they you know, Aligrady his physical tough guy, beattish, 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.120 physical tough guy, Benson at physical tough guy, and then 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:58.720 we we promote Cosmy, we give him an extension. Right. 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.520 We understand what Andrewan is and I think the last 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.720 staff didn't really understand what they had here. But he 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.719 is a guy that is incredibly bendy, incredibly flexible, can 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.120 get out in space. And that was the expectation when 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.560 they signed him. I think we all thought that's what 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.839 they were going to be. But they're like to see 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.800 this staff now actualizing that ability, you know, is special, 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.359 I think, and they're and it's the receivers too, like 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.720 Noah Brown, like he's one of the most physical blockers 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.160 I've seen in terms of free agency, and Luke Mcoffrey, 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.479 same way, Tami. So like it's a mindset, but they've 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.360 brought the right people in to engage in that mindset. 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.160 I think defensively, you're starting to see that also, like 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.880 you said, with the special teams too, it's it's not 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.560 talking about it, it's being about it and bringing the 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:38.640 right people in to get that done. 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.799 And they said Quinn mentioned this, Joe Wittett said, he goes. 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.840 We told them were closer after the first three games 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.600 than maybe they thought or what you all think this was. 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.280 It's not even close. That was their best collective defensive 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.879 performance of the year by far. What do you think 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:54.640 was different? 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:56.560 Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of stuff. 0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:57.960 I mean, I think they just seemed a little bit 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.040 more well coached. There's that you know, you talked about 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:02.960 this and you have such a succinct way of putting 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.640 stuff like Kyler Murray's a slot machine, so like you know, 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.560 there are times where it's great and there are times 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.600 where it's bad, but you know, you pull that lever 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.640 a lot for the good stuff. And I think with 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.560 Kyler Murray specifically, if you could get them I'm gonna 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.200 say this again, in game flow that is conducive to 0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:18.960 what you want to do defensively, which is making him 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.680 throw from the pocket, You're gonna win. Like you're gonna 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.640 win that football game. You're gonna win that matchup because 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.279 they they're built on running the football. That team like that. 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.080 It keeps them in, It keeps them in a very 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.120 similar situation with the Commanders were positive down in distance 0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.799 fourth and six. We can run play action, we can 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.719 run keepers, we can do stuff with Kyler. When you're 0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.400 in third and ten, he is not good enough to 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.759 sit back and dissect you. And so I think they 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.280 did a really good job on early downs of managing 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.200 the first down runs. When they got them in a 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.640 third long the pass rush came alive. I think Dorren's 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.120 armstrong deserves a tremendous shout out. I think game is 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.120 a command I think you see Jeremy chin development, you know, 0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.400 like to the level you know, he was great in 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.440 coverage or kicks. He's physical as a run player, like 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.360 that mentality. The two linebackers inside, I thought made a 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.520 ton of plays, you know, Wagner on the sack where 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.120 he's supposed to match the running back and then just 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.279 fall just making plays, and like we have not had 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.279 that level of production here. And then to be fair, like, 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.359 you know, even though the secondary wasn't perfect by any 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.840 stretch of the imagination, seeing what a serviceable pass rush 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.920 does for them, you're like that's a non issue, you know, 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.680 what I mean in the back end if the rush 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:28.960 is there, and so I think like that should give 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.000 fans a lot of hope and a lot of optimism 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.040 to say the roadmap is there and they seem to be. 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.880 And the other thing I have to give this a 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:40.160 shout out to as I thought they communicated so much better, 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.320 like just being aware of like, hey, this is a bunch, 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:43.919 this is how we're playing this, We're in a stack, 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:45.600 this is how we're playing this. This is the run. 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.080 I'm thinking, we got a motion. Who's going, I'm going, 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:52.400 let's And that covers up a lot of the issues 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.600 they were having versus a team like Tampa Bay where 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.920 they're miss aligned, they're not in the right gap schemes 0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.359 and things like that, and I think they just it 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:00.600 was good for them to get a little bit of 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.520 confidence and they played so much harder. So kind of 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.200 all those things encapsulated a very very solid defensive. 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.120 Yeahoughts, you know, to the point of like with Washington, 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.080 Ekler was out, how are they going to replace them? 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.239 Well they figured that out. McNichols was outstanding obviously for them, 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.880 score two touchdown. He had another great blitz pickup block, 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.279 not unlike he had in the Cincinnati he made another 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:23.280 one you'll see on film if you go back and watch. 0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.680 But like with Arizona, Trey McBride was out. Okay, so 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.960 he's their best tight end. You wouldn't think that that 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.800 would stifle them, but it did. And there was something 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.919 really noticeable about just them collectively. If you watched them, 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.080 they running the ball to Connor very well. Harrison's starting 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.400 to emerge. He's stud, you know, like he's total stud. 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.480 He's emerging. But McBride was the go to player for 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.799 Murray and kind of to your point of if you 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.640 can kind of get him in a third and long situation, 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.160 I think he's looking for one or two guys and 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.640 one of them wasn't available, and all of the sudden, 0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:59.719 it was almost as if he didn't know where to 0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.759 go with the ball. So I didn't realize how big 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.520 a deal that was going to be that he didn't plays. 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.120 We always talk about injuries and this is gonna be 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:07.680 a big deal, and then most of the time the 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.200 teams figure it out, next man up, whatever it is, 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.800 you know, and you lose your quarterbacks a different story, 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.080 but like you lose this player, you lose that player. 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.839 We lost Eckler, We never a problem returning kicks this week, 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.640 We never retire a problem with the second or whatever 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.160 you want to call running back with b Robb. That 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.880 didn't happen for this team this week. But them without 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:28.520 McBride turned out to be a humongous advantage, which I 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.759 think is more of an indictment of Arizona and more 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.839 an indictment of Murray than it is of anything else. 0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.440 But I thought it stood out by the end because 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.200 if you went and looked at the targets for the 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:41.200 other receivers, Zach Pascal has none this year, like things 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.920 like that, So he's looking for one or two guys 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:45.680 and one of them was standing on the sideline because 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:46.080 he was hurt. 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.600 Yeah, and then you know, Trevicbride is kind of, I think, 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:50.680 going to be the next big tight end, you know, 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.239 presence in terms of his effectiveness. But yeah, it wasn't there. 0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.960 I think you're right. I think Arizona, for all the 0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.359 explosive offenses that they showed versus you know, the La 0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.799 Rams and the Buffalo Bills, are an imperfect team because 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:07.120 their quarterback is imperfect, and like his flaws are that 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:11.000 Offensi's flaws, and I think again, like the defense, our 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.120 defense was able to capitalize on that and kind of 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.799 put them in a box a little bit and they 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:20.280 got a little lucky for sure. But I think the energy, 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.799 the attitude, the attention to detail is improving, and it 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.960 can always get better, absolutely, but I think it's trending 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:28.880 in the right direction. And this is kind of a 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.200 version of the team I was hoping for one versus 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:35.280 Tampa Bay where where the rush is better. As a result, 0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.799 you don't notice the coverage as much or the deficiencies 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:39.960 in coverage. You're not leveraging them as much. And it's 0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.120 a more symbiotic relationship between those two groups and hopefully 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:43.680 that continues. 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.120 One other thing on the defense, so I thought Alan 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.440 and Payne had their best game as well. Hard Man, 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.880 yeah really hard Alan was around a number of plays 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:56.000 this team for sex three forced fumbles, got one of them. 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.480 Still waiting for that first interception. I found that one yet, 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.160 but like but at least like what they're talking about, 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.200 we're going to be after the ball, ball popped out, 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.480 Like that's starting to happen. And with Alan and Payte, 0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.080 it was interesting. I was talking to somebody this morning 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.439 and he said to me, he goes, you know, Alan 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:11.399 Payn had been around here a long time. He goes, 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.680 maybe there was part of them there's just like us, 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.080 like they need to believe it too, that they need 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.080 to like see it to believe it. Like we're all 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.759 all of us who love this team, been around it 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.239 forever and have waited for something like this to kind 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.200 of happen and feel it and go is this real? 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.560 There might be a part of them that go is 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:30.839 this real? Like what's going on here in our own 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:31.959 locker room? Is this reel? 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.239 Yeah? I mean, like I think with in the post game, 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.120 when he came out for his interview, there was like 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.640 an authenticity to him which I haven't seen him before, 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.000 where he was like very self reflective and kind of giving, 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.239 not giving like his normal like Alabama stock answers like 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:48.799 he was like, yeah, man, like it's it's cool to 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.120 see the offense do what they're doing, you know what 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.320 I mean? And I do think to your point, it's 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.440 they they've got like beaten dog syndrome a little bit here, 0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.680 and so to see have hope and have some optimism. 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:01.959 Definitely think they played a lot better and they played 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.279 physically and they they played the way that commanders are 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:08.160 supposed to play under under Dan Quinn. So hopefully it continues, 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.160 and it's it's very exciting. 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.239 I mean the look Terry gives Jayden when you see 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.160 these pictures of them, it's he's in love. And then 0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:16.960 Payne said, I saw a clip of him from the 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.359 locker Roo where he's like, I'm on a good team again. 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.680 It's been a while, like he realizes it. The momentum 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.200 is real, it is real. 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.200 And just you know, can they maintain it? I think 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.279 that that's the big what if is like can they 0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.840 maintain it? Because so much of it seems to be 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.080 predicated on jayde Daniels and his efficiency. And again, like 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.480 no one wants them to be more successful than us, right, 0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.439 we we want them to be, you know, the best 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:43.440 team ever. But it's it's just it's just those numbers 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.440 that he's putting up, they're not They're they're historic for 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.080 a reason, and so it's right and. 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.600 So if this were to go throughout a season, he 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.719 will be the m v P. Yeah, you know, as 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:56.000 a rookie, he will be unquestioned and you know this 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.120 is why we like but he will be you won't 0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:00.440 just be off it's work of the year. He'll be 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.040 the MVP of the league. It will be like, for 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.239 the first month, it's the best rookie season I've ever 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.400 seen from a quarterback period, And the numbers and the 0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.560 eye test prove it. And if he were to do 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.200 it for a full season, he will have altered how 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.560 anyone views a rookie quarterback from here forward. And if CJ. 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.880 Stroud was amazing last year, it's not this. 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:23.359 Yeah, and just the evaluation, I mean, yeah, I can't 0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:27.960 put any better like it will be unprecedented, unprecedented if 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.120 that were to happen. So again, but what you're hoping 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:31.320 is that even if he has a little bit of 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.480 a regression, the rest of the offense kind of steps up, 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.640 the rest of the defense steps up, the special teams 0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.280 step up, and we are having similar results even though he's, 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.719 you know, fifteen percent less efficient than he was at 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:42.399 the start of the season. 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.080 Smooth told me last week, he goes, if this is 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.360 ground zero, you know, I don't know what next is. 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:50.800 Really I agree with him. We've invited Smoot onto the show. 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:56.560 I don't know, no, no, but he's here now. I've 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.960 been told he's here now, and he is going to 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:05.359 give us his unique take on everything he's. 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.120 Doing, like a bit though, it's like an ESPN like 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:08.840 kind of Okay, yeah right. 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:09.480 We're down for it. 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:10.080 Yeah, we're down. 0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:15.279 I'm down for bits. We're calling this Surprising Hot Incredible Takes. 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.320 You can check out the first letter of each one. 0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.799 Of those h and then what's that last one? 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:28.120 There're right, So here's Fred's first of three surprising hot, 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:29.680 Incredible takes. 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:36.399 Jaden Daniels is the Steph Curry of the NFL. Yes, 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.840 I said it. He throws the ball at a high level. 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.160 He rubs the ball at a high level. Everything is equal. 0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.080 I believe it, all right, he says. Jayden Dagels is 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:51.840 the Steph Curry of the NFL. I mean, I don't 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:53.520 like that comp I agree. 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.840 I hear he's saying, yeah, I got better basketball comps. Okay, 0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:03.239 So he's kind of got that cool, quiet, silent assassin 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.120 demeanor to him. Yeah, that's Kevin Durant, super fan of 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.879 the Commander, Kevin Durant, who showed up to practice last 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.200 week out in Arizona. So I actually think it's a 0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.120 little slim reaper. I think it's a little more of 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.640 that and less Curry. But I hear what he's saying 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:24.480 because he's like, Curry changed the game, showed up. You know, 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.920 the expectations were high, but not that high, and all 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.839 of a sudden, he's doing these things that kind of 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.880 change your perception of what a shooting guard can be. 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.200 Yeah, I mean, I like to pour cold water and everything. 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.920 Like I again, like I think Steph Curry is amazing. 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.319 I think what Jayden's done through the first four weeks 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.280 of the season is really incredible. It's just I always 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:44.920 have a hard time when you compare someone who's done 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.359 it for four games to someone who's, you know, maybe 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:48.680 the best basketball player of all time. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.400 And I know that's I just said he's the greatest 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.479 Marine quarterback in the history of the NFL, because if. 0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.840 He continues to play that way, yeah, I mean, it 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.919 be undisputed. So again, I think he's done some really 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.920 special things. I think that timetable is the thing that 0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:02.959 gets me a little bit concerned, and we talked about 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.520 that at the top of the show. When we're reviewing 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.239 the game. It's like, he's done amazing stuff, but it's 0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.600 like it and maybe I'm a hater. I don't know, 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.160 Maybe I just got too much hate my heart. I've 0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.840 been beating too many times with his team. It can't continue, 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.040 like mathematically, it can't continue to see. 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.040 You're like us. Now, yeah, you're like us, But what 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.160 is this? But it's not even like how could this be? 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:23.920 But I just looked at it. I look at historic 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.080 precedent and like you you're talking about since World War 0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:27.719 Two all the time, and it's like, you know, I 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.400 feel like we're doing a history documentary all the time 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.480 when we're doing our broadcast. But like it's those numbers 0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.719 come up for reasons, right, you know. And so it's like. 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:40.080 Through almost thirty interceptions this rook year, he's really good. 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:42.879 So I have all the time, I have our time, 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.880 like I have a time of time like rationalizing and 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.400 explaining it. So like that's why that take gets me 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.880 a little bit nervous. But yeah, what he's done for 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.000 the for the through the first four games is very 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:54.239 Steph Curry is. 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.839 You know, I think it's a pretty good cop. I 0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:00.160 like during yeah, yeah, like you kind of showed up. 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.960 He's kind of got the size, the speed, the athleticism. 0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.000 You know, he's going to be good, right, you don't 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:06.880 know how good right, and then it just kind of 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.799 and he's so kind of quiet, head down. Hopefully Jayden 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:14.120 doesn't have a burner phone like Katie the head you know, 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.120 he just like lets everybody just talk about him, which 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:18.600 seems to be what it is. Like there were two 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.720 others I thought about. I was like, is he Lebron? 0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:22.319 But I don't think he's a prodigy. I don't think 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:23.320 it's like that. 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.879 You know, others worked for And I think maybe that's 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:27.640 where this. 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.200 Is basically the one that people said is a prodigy. 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.400 Yeah, which is love Lebron, right, Yeah, Steph Curry, you know, 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.240 got that tremendous work ethic, you know whatever, two hundred 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.839 shots after every game and before every practice, whatever it is. 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.200 So I think there's an element of that to him too, 0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.640 which is really really cool and it gives you, It 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:44.160 gets you excited because you're like, these other great athletes 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:46.200 have done it this way with the work ethic and 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:50.120 the efficiency and maybe not the most outlandish physical tools 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:51.799 like we just talked about, like he doesn't have the 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:55.400 strongest arm of all time, but he's cultivated a skill 0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.560 set around that ability. And I think maybe that's where 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.319 the Steph Curry thing comes in. And I see that, 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.799 But again it's it's the it's the consistency for me, 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:07.680 like can you is that sustainable? If it is like awesome, 0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.520 Like we're gonna be going yeah, well hey, like great, 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:10.919 I got. 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:13.759 How much are we winning by this week? 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.799 Yeah? Right? So are we get yeah? So that's that's 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:19.799 the thing that gets me. But he is he he 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.319 has had a special, a very very special and we've 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.080 said that already, very very special four weeks and again, 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.960 like to compare him to Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, He's 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:30.359 done it for free. He's done for four weeks. Let's 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:31.400 see if you can do it a little bit more. 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.000 Last one I'll drop it. 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.239 Was are you are you? Is this your takes or 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:35.960 this friend's stakes? 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:37.800 You know, I mean competition? 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:38.200 Was Fred? 0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.440 I don't know. I'll never be as funny or yelly 0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:44.040 as him. The movie that I freak out, I become 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:50.240 Fred so magic Johnson because there's some kind of cool, 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.919 calm collected I know what I'm doing and watch out, 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:55.960 I'm gonna get you one way or the other of 0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.120 his game. But then I like thought about it, I'm 0:47:58.120 --> 0:47:59.480 like that's Pat Mahomes. 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.160 Yeah, that's Pat Mahomes. 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.600 Pat Mahomes has got all the tricks up his sleeve 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.960 right now. Maybe Jaden will generate them. But there is 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.680 this feel of I am in complete, under control, almost 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.880 like the matrix. Yeah, there's like a matrix element to 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.560 him sometimes, Like I said this to you yesterday in 0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:19.520 the booth, I'm like, he doesn't look like he's running 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.719 that fast, but he is. It's some kind of effortless 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:26.120 nature to it. It all feels really kind of collected, 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.520 like he knows what he's doing. He's a step ahead. 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.279 He's neo, like I don't know what he is. He's 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:32.680 a step ahead, he's dodge bullet. 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.799 Definitely the last two games it does feel that way. 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.799 It feels very slow and measured out for him, and 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.920 maybe that's his process, you know, like with the VR stuff. 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.680 But man, it's it's been it's been special watch for sure. 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:47.680 All right. Here is a smooth, surprising, hot, incredible take 0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:48.840 two of the week. 0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.400 Would you believe me if I said, Austin Cybert is 0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.800 the spark that lit the fuse that lit the flame. 0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.000 When you go seven for seven and you haven't missed 0:48:59.000 --> 0:48:59.799 the field. 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:03.040 Go, oh, you got to hold DMV burning, all right, 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:07.120 So our kicker is the spark that lit the fuse. 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:12.000 And oh but fine, I think I think Fred's reaching 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:12.359 on that one. 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.600 Will you think so? I mean, I appreciate what. 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.600 He did against the Giants, don't get me wrong. 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:21.080 But it's the thing. It's it's it's the ball. It 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.279 got the ball rolling, you know, so they won. They 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.319 could have been really productive offensively, right, they could have been, oh, hey, 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.680 we're gonna score you know, we're gonna have all these yards, 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.120 but not scorenty points and you know the Giants are 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:33.640 going to win. But the fact he made those seven 0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.719 field goals kind of again kind of it gives you 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.080 the It gives you, it opens the door, let's say, 0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.120 for the next week, the confidence you have going into Cincinnati. 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.120 Cincinnati then begets what you saw in Arizona. So again, 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:49.200 it's it's an oversimplification. It's derivative to say it's only him, 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.000 it's only the kicker, because it's we've talked about the 0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:56.319 maturation of everybody, right of Jaden from the Giants week 0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.480 to now, the offensive line from then to now, Cliff, 0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:00.760 the defense from then to now, Like it's all mature. 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.320 But I do think that environment cultivated in that wind 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.239 sets a foundation that says, hey, maybe we can be 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.280 better than we think. And then you get into Cincinnati, 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:12.520 you have a big win, right and then it it 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:14.600 it kind of supersedes itself. 0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.439 You know. I love the buy in from the fans. 0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.680 Everybody so pumped, and I'm excited to be part of 0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:20.600 it too. If you're going to buy into the whole 0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:24.200 story and you now know Austin Cyber has a magic 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.560 pine tree that he aims all his field goals at, 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.239 there is if there's nobody sitting behind the goalposts on 0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.440 both sides at Northwest Stadium this weekend dressed as a 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.719 pine tree, we're doing it wrong. We're just we're doing 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.759 it wrong. So that is my challenge, as tickets in 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.440 those sections, please come a s pine tree. 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.720 Or at least like a poster poster board of a pree. 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:49.760 Aim for the pine tree. 0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:51.239 So what do you think? Do you think it's you know, 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:52.759 you don't think it's the kicker, then you don't. 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:54.440 I don't think he's the spark of it. I think 0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.000 number five is that's what I. 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:57.960 Think the spark. But like I'm saying, if they don't 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.120 get the win correct in the Giants game, and again 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.920 it's maybe that's that's where Fred's so brilliant with his 0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:09.520 you know what is it surprisingly hot incredible takes? Is 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:12.480 is this idea that you know, it's one element, but 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:16.000 he I think maybe symbolizes or represents all the good 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:17.560 stuff that they did in that game and they were 0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:18.239 rewarded for it. 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.520 Yeah. One other thing on special teams, I think it's 0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:24.160 worth pointing out. Austin Eckler was just fantastic on the 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:26.040 kick returns. He returned one for touch and I got 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:29.160 called back in the sixty two yarder against Cincinnati, and 0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.239 then he wasn't able to play this past week, and 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.320 they're still getting really good returns. Cover units have been there. 0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:37.799 I think some credit is due here that the third 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.280 phase it gets overlooked a lot, and you know, Cyber 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.520 obviously was part of that, making all the field goals. 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.120 The return unit, they're ahead of the curve on this 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:49.720 dynamic kickoff thing because they've had some big game changing 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:53.000 plays already there and the coverage units. How many different 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:56.680 names did we call on the kickoffs yesterday? It was 0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:00.959 different people streaking down the field making plays Yankoff had one, 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:04.560 Owens had one, came there's somebody else I can't remember 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.279 now they had one, like Jeremy Chinn. Jeremy Chin had one. 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:09.600 So it's somebody different on these coverage units. 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:13.880 And they made investment there, you know. And again it 0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:15.799 kind of speaks to the construction of the team with 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.440 Yankoff making the team predominantly as a special teams player, 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:21.920 right with oh gosh, Belore the guy they signed from 0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.359 Seattle or wherever he was part of this as being 0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.120 a and he's made I think against Cincinnati he was 0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:29.400 making He made like three or four tackles. Jeremy Reeves 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:31.279 made three or four tackles. They have a core group 0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:34.200 of guys that are excellent at that, and then they 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.439 also have a really good understanding of how to cover 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:38.000 those kicks. Like when you watch them, they do a 0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:41.640 really good job presnap of communicating stunts. It's almost like 0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.000 they're a defensive line. They're going to pinch this guy 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:45.680 and loop this guy around, and they're able to get 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.640 free runners because they're picking that first line. And you know, 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.640 Jamie Reeves against Cincinnati had a really nice hit on 0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:54.799 the returner because he's unblocked essentially, and credit Tozzo for 0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:57.319 kind of unpacking that and then in the return game 0:52:57.360 --> 0:52:59.279 and getting a guy back there who's fearless enough to 0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:03.000 run it. But also they understand the leverages, they understand 0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.440 the position because I remember watching them when they installed 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.640 that in summer, and it looked tough, like they just 0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.399 couldn't get the spacing right, they couldn't get the positions right. 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:14.920 And over the course of kind of constantly struggling through that, 0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.560 they seem to have gotten a group of eleven guys, 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:20.319 including the returner, who have a good feel for it. 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.920 And again, I think the rest of the leg legal 0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.920 catch up as we go, but right now, that's a 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:26.839 big advantage for us. 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:31.120 All right, let's get to Fred's final surprising, hot, incredible 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:32.240 take of the week. 0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:38.840 Washington might not lose again for a loan loan loan. 0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:43.919 All right, this one's too much like listen, I don't 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:45.759 want this to stop either. I feel like I'm on 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:48.719 some U for it. The take is we're not going 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:50.759 to lose for He didn't say when, but he said 0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.080 for a long time, right, And I would just say 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.719 this like one. Cleveland was a playoff team a year ago. 0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:02.200 So I wouldn't be overlooking anybody. Yeah, and then two 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:03.640 weeks from now, and again I don't want to get 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.480 ahead of ourselves. But I don't know if you saw 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.319 Baltimore play in Dallas or a home against Buffalo, but 0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.160 they're pretty good and that's a road game. So I'd 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.760 like to believe we're never ever losing again. That would 0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.640 be great. But Fred, I think Fred is even a 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:19.760 little out of his skin with excitement of what's going 0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:20.680 on at this point. 0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.960 Yeah, And I think again, like if you look at 0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:27.080 the season right, obviously Tampa Bay looks like they might 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.920 be something from a team standpoint wise, construction wise, no doubt. 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.239 The Giants I think are better than they showed. I 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.920 think that that Thursday night game against the Giants or 0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:37.719 against the Cowboys show kind of what they can be potentially. 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.960 But they're not a great defense by any starch. 0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:41.719 Of the MNA, and Jones has to execute a little 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:42.520 better for them to win. 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.680 And then you look at Cincinnati and obviously Joe Burrow's amazing. 0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:49.799 Their defense is is it doesn't have the teeth that 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:51.880 it's had near his pass with kind of a consistent 0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:52.799 pass rush. 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:54.399 And they don't have a run game, they can rely 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:56.120 on to be extremely afferent. 0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:58.520 And obviously like Jesse Bates has gone from there, he 0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:00.160 was kind of their ballhockeying player in the back and 0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:02.719 so and then you look at Arizona very similar, like 0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:08.160 schematically very elevated, but not super dynamic. So I think 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:11.040 going up against Cleveland will be a really interesting test 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:14.160 because they have absolute maniacs on defense that play hard, 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:15.880 to play physical, they're aggressive, They've got one of the 0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.320 best pass rushing defensive ends maybe in the history of 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.680 the NFL and Miles Garrett. So I think as the 0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:26.560 defense difficulty increases from these opponents, I think we're going 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:30.200 to get a better feel for some of these efficiency numbers, 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:31.560 for some of the stuff that's working, some of the 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:34.120 stuff that works against top flight defenses. You know, like 0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:35.920 one of the things they say about Baltimore last year 0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:37.440 when they were really rolling, is it felt like they 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.360 had twelve men on the field. Yeah, Like does this 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.399 work versus that kind of structure? Does it work when 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:44.560 you've got guys you know, when you're trying to find 0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:48.120 that numbers matchup. You've got the three over three defensive 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:49.759 backs and we can throw a screen because we trust 0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:52.160 our guys to win. But what happens when Kyle Hamilton's 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.240 one of those guys and you can beat Luke McCaffrey 0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:56.240 on a block and we tackle that screen for a 0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:57.759 two yard loss, and now all of a sudden, we're 0:55:57.800 --> 0:55:59.239 in second and twelve, which is where we don't want 0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:01.440 to live versus a very good defense. So I think 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:05.759 the as the defensive dial increases, it's going to be 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:09.279 more challenging. I do think those potentially are winnable football games. 0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:12.520 But I think Baltimore specifically is like a Super Bowl 0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:14.239 caliber team. And I know they don't have a winning 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.719 record right now, but it looks to me like they've 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.040 kind of figured something out. They're kind of getting better 0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:20.640 each and every time. 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:22.120 Well, I think if you've watched them the last couple 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:23.840 of weeks and you didn't come to the conclusion that 0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:26.200 when it's all said and done, that that's probably they're 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:27.560 either going to be right on the cuspoer in the 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.279 Super Bowl. I don't think you're watching it right now, 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.719 especially with Kansas City struggling a little bit and then 0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:33.560 lost for she Rice. It's a bad loss. It's a 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.120 bad loss for them, Not that I don't put anything 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:39.120 pass them the way. You know, they performed one other 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:41.120 quick thing about Cleveland, just real quickly, and again I 0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:45.880 haven't really paid a tremendous amount of attention. However, to 0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:48.520 your point about Miles Garrett et cetera, of the defenses 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:50.760 they've played, they've played some really high level safeties, Buddha 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.640 Baker one of them, mantroin Winfield Week one. I don't 0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:55.799 think they've seen a set of corners like this yet. 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:59.040 Cleveland brings in a set of very high level corners, 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.319 no offense to the teams that they faced. But that's 0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:05.400 not really Cincinnati's strength. It's definitively not Arizona strength. I 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:08.160 think the Giants are, you know, interestingly trying to build 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:11.439 that back up right. And even Tampa, who's got very 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:13.240 good I think defensive fronts. 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:15.840 They got hurt though both their starting corners got in 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:17.560 that game. So again to your point. 0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:19.840 It's this is this is an interesting challenge from that perspective. 0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:23.280 It's a different level corner, different animal, different animal defensively, 0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.280 and and you know in the who they played this weekend, gosh, 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.560 I can't even remember now, Yes, yeah, they played Vegas 0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:32.280 and they had two defensive touchdowns. Like it's a different 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.880 caliber of group that they're going to be facing. And 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:36.920 so you know, you can win that game nine to 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.200 ten or whatever, but like it's going to be different 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.600 and more challenging for the offense to be as effective 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:43.560 and the defense is really going to need to it's 0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:45.520 going to need These games are going to need to 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.160 be more complimentary. So again, like I think it's a 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.840 winnable game, no doubt, more winnable than it was when 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:53.640 the season started. But it's a good football team and uh, 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:57.520 and it's it's going to present some very unique challenges 0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.280 stuff they haven't seen this year so far. 0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:01.600 All right, less thing, let's talk about us for just 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:02.040 a moment. 0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:02.800 Us. 0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:04.280 Yeah, because oh you. 0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:06.880 And me, the commanders, for let's talk about us. 0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:09.040 For a moment. I only would make this a moment 0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:14.000 because it sounds ver. The reason why, the reason why 0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:16.960 the clip of the call from the Terry touchdown on 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:20.840 Mondayay football went viral was because of what the commanders did, 0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:27.520 not because what we did. However, our behavior definitely got noticed. 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:29.960 And I will I just want to just say this quickly. 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:33.040 I appreciate all the attention that we've gotten for it, 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:35.760 And I'd love to tell a quick backstory about what 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.040 was going on, Why I stuck my tongue out at somebody, 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:43.640 why you were maniacally last? Right, But like that was 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.560 a it was a great moment, maybe the best pass 0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:48.760 we've had here in a very long time. 0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.120 I think the it wasn't even that, man, it was 0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:55.080 like everything about that play was insane. Situation of the 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.720 game insane, right, Yeah, they need to get a first 0:58:57.760 --> 0:58:59.600 down in that moment to steal the dealer or Joe 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.440 Burrows go walk down the field and score a touchdown. Right, 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:04.240 it's third and seven, They're coming out of a timeout. 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.080 They're not lined up correctly. They don't seem like they're 0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:09.320 gonna get lined up correctly. The clock is ticking down. 0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:10.920 All of a sudden, you look down on the field 0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:14.120 and Cincinnati's in zero pressure. Like they're lined up across 0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:16.120 the board. They have one back in the backfield. They're 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.440 going to be short, right, and it's like, can they 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:20.880 get the throw off? Can they get the playoff? Then 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:22.640 can they get the throw off? And then when he 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:26.320 gets the throw off, he threw that ball so early 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:30.040 in the down, it was like Terry had run five yards. 0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:32.480 The corner was still three yards away from him. Yeah, 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:34.240 Terry was at the twenty when the ball was launched, 0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:36.640 and he put that ball so high in the air 0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:40.320 in such a perfect spot, and like, just going back 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:43.040 and reviewing it, I was like, I've been a part 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:46.800 of offenses. I've coached offenses. I've studied offenses where you 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:49.040 see that happening. Guy's not getting lined up as the 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.640 shot clock ticking down and the quarterback sends that to 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:53.760 that ball to the first row of the stands, or 0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:55.400 they get sacked because they're not sure how to pick 0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:58.040 up the pressure, and he just set and it was 0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:02.040 like it was almost unbelieve. It was almost unbelievable to 1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:06.320 see that executed with that level of pressure, under those 1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:10.520 defensive circumstances, with that level of precision, with that kind 1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:13.120 of time restriction too, in that moment of the game, 1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:15.280 it was un believable. 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:17.919 And now we know when that happens, all you could 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:19.000 do is laugh. 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:21.640 I mean, I didn't have anything to say, first off, 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:25.240 great call by you, like, but I didn't because out 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:26.919 on the video, like I put the mic up because 1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:29.160 I don't want to get caught cursing on national television. 1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:30.240 Right or national rates. 1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:32.160 Both of us were ready to go. What everyone tweeted 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:33.080 at the same time. 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.400 Holy yeah, you don't want right, And like, so I 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:38.440 put the mic up and then the kit Tierry catches it, 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:41.320 and You're like, there's this great moment. You can't write 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:43.880 this stuff any better, this great moment of suspense and 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:46.280 tension of like did he catch it? 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:49.080 Well, it was because he was right on the sideline 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:50.800 and I wasn't sure he got his knee down, his 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:53.439 feet down. Yeah, he clearly caught it, but I wasn't 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:54.720 sure they were going to call it a touchdown. 1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:58.280 And then when they go touchdown and you go absolutely 1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:00.520 crazy and you're screaming, and I. 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:03.160 Just was like, that was thirty years coming out, buddy, 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:05.400 That's what that was. And the fans know exactly what 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:07.960 I'm talking about, which is why everybody reacted that way 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:11.440 to it. Locally, I'm you, you know, like all of 1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:15.640 your tension and disdain for what's happened for thirty years 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:18.200 came out in this moment that we hadn't seen in 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:18.960 such a long time. 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:21.240 Yeah, And so that was beautiful love that And then 1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:23.800 I just couldn't I just couldn't help but laugh. Like 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:27.160 it was. It was just seems so improbable, so unlikely, 1:01:27.240 --> 1:01:29.680 such a beautiful moment for the team. I didn't have 1:01:29.680 --> 1:01:32.080 any words, so laughing seemed appropriate. It just came out 1:01:32.160 --> 1:01:33.200 very scary and dark. 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:36.000 Very quickly. The guy stuck my tongue out at. 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:37.680 Okay, dude, so, which was awesome. 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:41.480 He was awesome. So like, like it depends where we are. 1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:43.240 In Arizona, there were no fans near us. We were 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:46.560 situated on the mood. Miami were situated on the move. 1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:49.840 But sometimes our booth is right in like at a 1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:52.560 level where there's fans right in front of us. Yeah, 1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:55.840 they can reach in correct touch, and we never know 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:57.440 what we're going to get, Like if we're in Philly, 1:01:57.520 --> 1:01:59.440 I don't even bother being playful with them because one 1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:01.000 of them may share me, you know, like I don't 1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:02.800 know what's going to happen, or half the time, like 1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:04.919 they're flipping me off, you know all that thing, which 1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:07.479 is fine. I don't care. But these guys actually were cool, 1:02:07.560 --> 1:02:10.880 Like this group of name so this guy, one guy, 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:16.680 shirtless guy wearing a faux Bengals fur coat, Okay, screaming 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:18.760 my name at me the whole time, giving me the 1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:21.760 thumbs up. As it turns out, just likes play by 1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:25.320 play guys. Okay, that's it, just likes play byke So 1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:27.840 he learns whoever the play bike because he has tickets there. 1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:30.760 Whoever the play by plays, he learns their name, and 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:32.560 he like yells at them. But it was playful the 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:34.600 whole time. And the best part was like the night 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:36.680 before we went to dinner, okay, and there's all the 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:38.680 commanders fades all over the place, all want to take 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:40.640 pictures with you. None of them know who I am. 1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:45.280 Now what single commander fiter is there? The guy in 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:48.600 the Bengals faux fur coat knows who I am, yelling 1:02:48.640 --> 1:02:51.480 my name, thumbs up the whole thing. I stuck my 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:53.400 tongue out at him and he was laughing right. And 1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:56.120 then I blew a kiss at this woman at her boyfriend. 1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:59.720 I'm assuming boyfriend who when the comeback was happening, had 1:02:59.760 --> 1:03:02.200 turned around. It was giving me the business about you 1:03:02.200 --> 1:03:04.439 guys aren't going to score enough to win. He thought 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:06.280 we were going to collapse and lose. So I blew 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:08.840 a kiss at them. That's who they were. We never 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:11.280 do it if the people weren't playful, because if they 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:13.280 are the people who want to flip me off or 1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:15.960 call me names or whatever. I ignore those people. That's 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:17.400 where the professionalism comes in. 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:19.880 I didn't realize we were talking so much, so much 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:21.560 smack during the call there at the end of the 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:24.880 Yeah a lot. That's information. That's good enough. 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:27.440 Yeah all right. So but that was thank you all 1:03:27.480 --> 1:03:29.200 for all the nice kind words for both of us. 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:30.600 I'll speak for you for that, because. 1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:33.840 It went everywhere and we were really I was tickled 1:03:33.840 --> 1:03:37.320 by the flattered too, very flattered. It was very cool, 1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:39.280 it was awesome. We'll just get back to you. They 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:42.760 keep winning, we'll yeah, we'll do that all the time, 1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:44.640 all right. I think that's going to do it for 1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:48.200 us today. You say, yeah, good talk. All right, we'll 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:51.120 do it again after who we played Cleveland. We'll do 1:03:51.160 --> 1:03:52.680 it after Cleveland, all right. That'll do it for the 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:53.240 Booths review. 1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:53.520 You see you