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Speaker 1: Starting today, you will play like winners, act like winners,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly, you will be winners.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network Monday, March twenty third. This

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Speaker 2: is Film Session, and today we're breaking down the biographical

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Speaker 2: teen sports drama Coach Carter. Jay skeets alongside me as always.

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Speaker 3: Task Melissa Coach.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? We got the bear to one? Jay Kirby, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: oh making the magic happen. It's JD. Hello, there he

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Speaker 2: is and joining us the other phone. It's the International

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Speaker 2: Man of Mystery taking it to the Max. Lee Ellis, friends, HM,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Our second movie here in Film Session, Coach Carter, released

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and five, based on a true story

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Speaker 2: director Thomas Carter Homer One, starring Samuel L. Jackson, Rob Brown,

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Speaker 2: Rick Gonzalez. You Got Channing Tatum in this, Ashanti's in this.

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Speaker 2: The IMDb synopsis, all right here it is. Controversy surrounds

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Speaker 2: high school basketball coach Ken Carter after he benches his

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Speaker 2: entire team for breaking their academic contract with him. That

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Speaker 2: is the breakdown of this movie. Two hours like fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 2: two hours, sixteen minutes long.

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Speaker 3: Move one.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, it's rated PG thirteen. And here's the most

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Speaker 2: astonishing part to me, and we're gonna break it down.

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Speaker 2: The critics score on Rotten Tomatoes sixty four percent for

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Speaker 2: Coach Carter. The audience score honestly an astonishing eighty five percent.

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Speaker 2: We were telling people to do their homework this weekend.

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Speaker 2: This was gonna be the movie in film session watch

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Speaker 2: Coach Carter, and I couldn't believe correct me if I'm wrong, guys,

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Speaker 2: how many comments there were? Be it on Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 2: DM whatever, Coach Carter.

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Speaker 3: I love this movie.

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Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite movies of all time.

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Speaker 2: This movie is incredible. Did anyone like this movie?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: I liked it. I think this lines up with people

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Speaker 3: on Twitter and their age and they're coming of age.

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Speaker 3: That's why people really really love to name another movie

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Speaker 3: that's come out in the last fifteen years. That's a

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Speaker 3: basketball centric, like high school movie. I mean there's a few,

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Speaker 3: but really every other movie that we talked about analyzing

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Speaker 3: is old. It is really from it's from the twentieth

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Speaker 3: century basically, and so this one was the most recent one.

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Speaker 3: And hey, I don't mind a yelling Samuel L. Jackson,

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Speaker 3: I could I use some more yelling occasionally?

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Speaker 4: Actually, sorry, did you say when it when it was

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Speaker 4: when you were asked if when Skeet's asked if anyone

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Speaker 4: liked it, you said, sure, yes, sure, yes, that's exactly

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Speaker 4: what I played here. Sure like it's just like it's fine, right,

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Speaker 4: it's a gloomy Sunday afternoon. I watched it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: just I had my computer as ready to take notes, I'll,

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Speaker 4: you know, ready to break it down, you know, like,

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Speaker 4: and I just started forgot my computer was era yipped

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Speaker 4: away and I just watching Sam Jackson yell at kids

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Speaker 4: and it was fine, I guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean I think what last time

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Speaker 2: when we did a white Man Can't Jump, I said,

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Speaker 2: you could also call white man can't jump basketball and yelling.

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Speaker 2: I think coach Carter could have been called you could

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Speaker 2: throw yelling in there, but I wrote down push up

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Speaker 2: suicides and inspirational sayings because that's all this movie is.

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Speaker 4: That's all it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I yeah, I'm with you, Fine, sure, okay,

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Speaker 2: it's the message is great, of course, it like addresses

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Speaker 2: and that's I can get on board with that. But

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Speaker 2: the actual like construct of the movie and some of

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Speaker 5: He leaves the team once, comes back after doing a

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Speaker 5: just he's a flip flopper. You wouldn't want him as

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Speaker 3: Though, I think it would have been worthwhile to cut

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Speaker 3: couple more who cares about the sun? It really didn't

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Speaker 5: Exactly, they're like, all right, man, you're transferring. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: hold you to a higher standard, but you're gonna earn

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Speaker 5: we see, he's like winning a game in the clutch

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Speaker 5: right like in the last second. There's no him actually

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Speaker 5: or really having to deal with anybody disliking him from

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Speaker 5: school and they're like, with your five browns. It's for

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Speaker 5: seen in another movie. It's like, we get did you

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Speaker 5: like Dangerous Minds starring Michelle Pfeiffer, Well that's Timo Cruz.

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Speaker 5: He's the Dangerous mind story arc. So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It just felt like very tacked on, like you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some white shadow in this movie as well. Lee,

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Speaker 2: what did what did you think? Just big picture? Watching

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Speaker 2: you like like some of us here, like what the okay,

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Speaker 6: Well, the crazy thing for me was I didn't actually

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Speaker 6: the next, and I'm like, that's just crazy. That just

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Speaker 6: first couple of games, they're trying to figure things out.

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Speaker 6: But instead was like, oh, they just now they're perfect,

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Speaker 6: and then they go to the championship and they win

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Speaker 6: that game they come back from seven points down. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know in the last minute. I'm like, there's just

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Speaker 6: there's just no reality to that. It wouldn't happen in

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Speaker 6: real life. And then afterwards I'm reading about it and said, oh,

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Speaker 6: it's based on a true STORNGM like, oh, well that's

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Speaker 6: pretty yeah special then, isn't it Like he's done a great.

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Speaker 3: Jobs and their scores, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 6: And then then you know, when he actually did the

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Speaker 6: and Bob Costas interviewed him, like, what the hell's going on?

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Speaker 2: What a great movie?

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Speaker 3: That was a one question interview, literally was one question. Okay,

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Speaker 3: thanks Coach Carter, thanks for all your insert Was that

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Speaker 3: the actual footage of Bob Casters?

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Speaker 4: Do you think? No way? Because because they just cut

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Speaker 4: away to this really stiff shot of Samuel Jackson as coaches?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're saying, was that the real footage of this

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Speaker 2: real story? I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that you're rightly, it is a crazy story being based

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Speaker 2: on true story that I was. I thought the same

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Speaker 2: thing when coach Carter cancels that one game and then

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Speaker 2: the next day is like a full blown media firestorm

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Speaker 2: for a high school basketball game.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what the hell is going on here?

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Speaker 2: They're holding straight up press conferences, like what because the

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Speaker 2: part of that and it really didn't make a lot

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Speaker 2: he's canceled the games, and like it's like this idea, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the high school basketball game is so important to the

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Speaker 2: school and to the community, but like, was it? They

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Speaker 2: were four and twenty two the year before, like they

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Speaker 2: to the games. It wasn't a big deal. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: I know they got to do it to make it

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Speaker 6: But yeah, and then and then when they had that

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Speaker 6: board meeting and he gets voted out basically where he says,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'll resign if I get if the luckout

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Speaker 6: turns up the next day and you know, they're all

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Speaker 6: which is great, but there was no like, okay, well decided,

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Speaker 6: then there was no real conversation I thought, where it's

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Speaker 6: just like just assumed that that happened, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Hey, I wanted Samuel Jackson yelling in front

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Speaker 3: wanted a three minute soliloquy, but he didn't really give it. No,

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Speaker 3: it was weird to me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought he defended himself. Fine, I mean he's

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Speaker 5: The entire community is furious that he is asking his

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Speaker 5: Nobody is like, well, you know, he makes a good point.

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Speaker 5: We want our kids to work hard. They're just like, no,

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the questions I always ask you guys

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Speaker 2: here is like, what was the dumbest scene? And from me,

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Speaker 2: it was that very what felt like a very unrealistic

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, you're right.

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Speaker 2: It was like they were all like the parents were

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Speaker 2: worried about a two point three GPA, the parents were

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Speaker 2: worried about having to wear a goodwill tie.

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Speaker 4: Like what that just was like this just wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 4: It's just completely he's laying out the statistics. It's all

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Speaker 4: very reasonable. He's just arguing He's just look, this is

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Speaker 4: going to be good for your kids, and all the

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Speaker 4: parents should be and would be, Okay, this sounds good,

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Speaker 4: This sounds it sounds like you're increasing the chances of

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Speaker 4: my son to go to college. That sounds great. And

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Speaker 4: in my experience in the school system in Canada and

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Speaker 4: here in the US, that's all every anybody cares about it,

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Speaker 4: especially here. Yeah, and the lower you are on the

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Speaker 4: social economic spectrum, the more you want your kids to

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Speaker 4: go to college. That's the main goal for any parent.

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Speaker 4: So it's you're completely right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. They were just more caught up in

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Speaker 2: my god, how could you take high school basketball away

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Speaker 3: But maybe college isn't even on their radar JD. Maybe

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Speaker 3: that's part.

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Speaker 4: Of the problem.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, Maybe yes, But as the school administrator said,

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Speaker 3: He was tired at the beginning of the movie. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good chant, though, you know, we've gone every

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Speaker 2: Pretty good? Yeah? I agree. I actually I wrote this

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Speaker 2: Actually this does work. That's a that's a decent chant.

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Speaker 2: Not a fan of the Richmond Oilers though, just the name,

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Speaker 3: Is it town Richmond, Richmond, California oil town?

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize it was in California until they went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bay Hill Ornament Championship. That one, I guess,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know I would say this after watching a

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Speaker 2: I mean to jump to the end. I couldn't believe

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Speaker 4: Yeah it happens on the bench, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: did you have a like a was there a particular

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Speaker 6: The jumped out of you, well, you know again when

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Speaker 4: I don't know how accurate the actual gameplay is. Right

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Speaker 5: Trick very scripted looking. It was like, uh, just everything

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Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was something crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well what day was it?

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Speaker 3: But it was so strange the way he asked him

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Speaker 4: Kid?

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Speaker 3: You know, it just kind of happened out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: I have that I have that as my dumbest scene.

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Speaker 4: That whole wanna be dead poet Society. Captain, my captain.

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Speaker 4: He may as well have just stood on his desk

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Speaker 4: and read that poem by Mary Anne Williamson.

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Speaker 4: But fine, it's a nice poem. It's just weird to me.

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00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 4: It just comes at like you say, out of nowhere,

436
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah, because he had this is my answer.

437
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 4: It's a Marian Williamson poem. And he's like, you got

438
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 4: you got it man, or like I thought I missed it.

439
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 3: I thought developed that relationship so that Mary Anne Williamson

440
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 3: quote really pays off and we could attribute that to

441
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 3: her and develop it and find out that that was

442
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 3: really her, Like it wasn't. It wasn't big enough, It wasn't.

443
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 3: It wasn't juicy.

444
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: Timo Cruz is my favorite character in the movie, Like

445
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: I do like I like that guy that plays him

446
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: and the actor. I just like the character. But again,

447
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,239
Speaker 2: to come back to it, I was so confused just

448
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 2: why his story was just turning on the drop of

449
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: a dime, like I get the I get the second

450
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: time he comes back. Okay, there, his cousin gets killed

451
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 2: and you know he needs the support of coach Carter

452
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: and obviously the family he's built with his other teammates

453
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: and stuff. I get that. I really was dumbfounded with

454
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: the first comeback, Like I couldn't figure out, like what

455
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: was the impetus? Like he leaves because okay, oh we

456
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: got this new coach. He's we gotta sign these contracts.

457
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. It's gonna be a hard ass. Okay.

458
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 2: I get that he's a bit of a punk. He's like,

459
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm out of here. That makes sense. But he then

460
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: watches what appears to be one game they play where

461
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 2: they beat Hercules, who he points out sucks anyway, and

462
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: he's like he sees them outside on the streets, right,

463
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: and so what he just sees their bond, like getting

464
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: a milkshake together. I was really confused why they didn't

465
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: know they seem to miss them.

466
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 4: That is that not the same scene where his cousin

467
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: what's his name, Lenny.

468
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 2: Renny Reny Reny like whistles for.

469
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 4: Him and comes down and basically it's like, you're going

470
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: to sell these drugs for me? I mean it's plausible.

471
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't want to be a drug dealer.

472
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: I want to but he doesn't really ever, he doesn't

473
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: really that doesn't come across to me. He's like, that's fair,

474
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: that's like, fis all right, I'm in the drug game here.

475
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: And he's like, seems fine with it, right, I mean.

476
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 5: He also sees his cousin get murdered across the street,

477
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 5: runs to his coach's house, and then Mary memorizes a

478
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 5: Maryanne Williams like within a week zero morning.

479
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: Noah, I no, no, I'm happy came back on the court.

480
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: Happy he came back because then he had the whole like,

481
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: I'll do whatever. That far was great. Well, practice is

482
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: going on and you guys are running plays named after women.

483
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: Coach Carter knows, I'll just do my suicide sisters. He

484
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: got by the way. Worst Uh, the worst job is

485
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: the guy, the manager. I guess the manager that had

486
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: to track all these suicides.

487
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: Clyde wasn't Clyde. Clyde now for a thousand push ups

488
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: and he's got a cat, and then when everybody does

489
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: the push ups for him, how do you keep track?

490
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: It's a possible. It's the worst job in the movie.

491
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: But Timo Cruz and I and I say this because

492
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: there's like that ten day or ten push up challenge

493
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: going on on social media right now because everyone's at

494
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: stay at home and stuff like that, and I'm seeing

495
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: a lot of like suspect looking push ups, like, oh,

496
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I'm not doing the greatest push

497
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: up you've ever seen. But some of these that you

498
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: guys are counting for your ten or like what.

499
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: You're not fooling anyone when your knees are out of frame.

500
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Timo Cruz, nice push up for him. Yeah, I

501
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: thought he had a.

502
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: Really nice push up for him.

503
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: And he really was Steph Curry before Steph Curry like

504
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: he was taking a three on the fast break, launching

505
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: a three a layup. It was like, all right, So

506
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: I was like respect, So he's a decent basketball player.

507
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: I just didn't understand is his his character arc just

508
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: turned way too quick for me?

509
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 4: Well they all did. Really, It's this is a season

510
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: of television jammed into one two and a half hour

511
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, like, here's the plot lines that

512
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 4: I wanted to explore.

513
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

514
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: So there's the rival with St. Francis, which they kind

515
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 4: of set up right off the bat, and then it

516
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: goes away for the entire movie until the end, to

517
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: the point where Junior is facing off against the other

518
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 4: big guy, the monster. They call him the Crane. Is

519
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: that the crane on the other Yeah, on the other team.

520
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 4: It's just like, Okay, I guess there's a rivalry there,

521
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: But it would have been way more interesting to hear about.

522
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: It even if those two those two high schools met

523
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: at the party or something or somewhere. So, yeah, they

524
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: never see each other.

525
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: Exactly, and added to the fact that the coach, Carter's

526
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: kid used to be on that team. Anyways, Yeah, the

527
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 4: Canyon and Kira pregnancy, Oh my god, totally written in

528
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: is Oh I'm watching an afternoon special, after school special. Okay, fine,

529
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 4: but it could have been way more interesting.

530
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I tuned out every single scene between them

531
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: and what's the Kenyon key? Yeah, yeah, I tuned it

532
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: out every time. It's like, Okay, I just don't care.

533
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: There was I didn't care four or five times we

534
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: saw them together, right, he checked out.

535
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: But it's a it's an interesting storyline. It could have

536
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 4: been interesting. This guy is going to get a scholarship

537
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: and he's going to go away, and teenage pregnancy is

538
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: a problem and they kind of explore it better over

539
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 4: a season of television, you know what I mean.

540
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: Very nonchalant about that having that baby or not having Yeah.

541
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: In the end, good for she made a choice for herself.

542
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: It's good for her. But but she also yelled at

543
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: Kenyon the way that time when he was holding up

544
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 3: a baby and he wasn't doing it properly. It's like,

545
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: hold that baby up, Well, he just grabbed the baby

546
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: for the first time. Give him a break. I can

547
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: understand maybe why he doesn't want a baby with you.

548
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: That's right, Cruise and Rennie. I would have liked to

549
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: have seen the actual, you know, their relationship with his cousin.

550
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 4: How toxic was it or was it toxic or was

551
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 4: it you know? Uh, yes, he was selling drugs. But

552
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: I feel like he loved him.

553
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: He's a nice guy until dropped him off one time.

554
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: Exactly did he say a word? Did Rennie say a word? Yeah,

555
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: I gotta go. He drops him off.

556
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: Cruz pretends to Rob uh channing Tatum's character, which was

557
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 4: also weird. But Okay, I.

558
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: Couldn't shed a tear for Rennie dying because I didn't

559
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: know him at all. Exactly exactly we don't even know

560
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: his freaking name. On this podcast, Ronnie.

561
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 4: Remmy, we had the speaking of the robbery, the weirdness

562
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 4: between Cruise and Lyle uh Channing, Channing Parson. You got

563
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 4: the fact that Junior can't seem to read, and his

564
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 4: mom is like this one dimensional character. She has a

565
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: great scene in the in the store when she's like, look,

566
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 4: I like what you're doing, and I want you to

567
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: keep doing what you're doing. Coach Carter and oh yeah,

568
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: he's in the car and he's going to come and apologies.

569
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: I didn't mind that.

570
00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I like that too.

571
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 4: But you know, that's a problem. He can't read, and

572
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: let's let's explore that, you know what I mean? Uh,

573
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 4: Coach Carter and his long suffering girlfriend or a wife.

574
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, hey, this is a terrible thing

575
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: that you're This is a terrible proposition that you're taking on.

576
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna get a thousand bucks and you're gonna

577
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: work for five months and I'm never going to see

578
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 4: you and we're not gonna get to go to Mexico.

579
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 5: Window at your store.

580
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: That's no big deal.

581
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: Okay. I add something that you're right. Early in the movie,

582
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: he tells her, Yeah, I think it's gonna be one

583
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for five months. And she says, well, you

584
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: can't say no to that? Was she being sarcastic?

585
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: Look, I think I thought she was being sarcastic.

586
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was being sarcastic.

587
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: I thought she knew ahead.

588
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 6: Well, I thought she was being sarcastic because she knew

589
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 6: where the conversation was going. She knew he was talking

590
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 6: himself into her. Yeah, and she was just like she

591
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 6: was like a thousand bucks. Yeah, that's you know, like

592
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 6: relatively space. It's just not enough money for that sort

593
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 6: of a commitment. So yeah, and then because then at

594
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 6: the end of it, she just said, she says, also

595
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 6: when do you stop? And he was like Monday or something.

596
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't like that. Yeah, No, I think you're right. I

597
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: think it was sarcastic. But I sort of also like tasks.

598
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: I was like, what is she like? I mean, it

599
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 2: is a thousand bucks. Uh and and by the way,

600
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: it turns into fifteen hundred dollars for former forms.

601
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 3: I don't think not to criticize Debbie Morgan's acting, but

602
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: I don't think she pulled off the sarcasm all that well.

603
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: I did take it out. I guess you're gonna do.

604
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: You're gonna do this no matter what I said. Yeah, yeah,

605
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna get to go to Mexico. And

606
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: this sucks.

607
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: But I thought maybe the money was good for the

608
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: time in the location. And I guess, I guess.

609
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not a teacher there, but he's got

610
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: a store that they do establish is doing well. And

611
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: that's the other plot line, his store and his his

612
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: helper guy, his employee who's mad that he's not there

613
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 4: helping us, like, wow, we had a great week because like, yeah,

614
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: you weren't here to help me. It's been crazy.

615
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm just here.

616
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: You wanted them to develop that story, Yes, I did.

617
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: I was very interested.

618
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: He wants he wants Carter's Sporting Goods to be its

619
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: own spin off. I mean off of that, I will say,

620
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how that story was doing all that

621
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: well with the signage that it had come on, especially

622
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: once your window got smashed, Like take the time, like,

623
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: let's really dive into making this look a little better

624
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: than just that Carter's. Yeah, put it in this story. Yeah,

625
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: all right, what else?

626
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: I guess that's it. I mean, you know you just.

627
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: Wanted all this other stuff.

628
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: There's at the point is there's way too much in

629
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: this movie. There's too many stories. Yes, yeah, and they

630
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: didn't need half of them.

631
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not what you didn't. I'm surprised you didn't

632
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: have them. Maybe the possibility of what's going on with

633
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: Channing Tatum, Like his dad's in jail, that's a great one.

634
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: You know, he's coming from what appears to be broken home,

635
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: but we don't really get much of it.

636
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: You just see his uncle stands up in Oh is

637
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: it it was that in the meeting. At the meeting

638
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: and his uncle and this is all he.

639
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Has, right right, He's got basketball and all the items

640
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: that he wears on his head. That's all he has.

641
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: He's wearing something.

642
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: Cut off shirt sleeve on the head. Can't deny it.

643
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: Great luck.

644
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: It was pretty cool to see some old clothing lines

645
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: that I had totally forgotten about in the party scene,

646
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: party scenes, seeing E N y C E. Oh god,

647
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that in Soul. You know, there's a

648
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: lot of Sean John Chany Tatum is definitely wearing some Shawn.

649
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: John and oneare Yeah, what are you gonna say?

650
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 6: In the in the scene in the in back in

651
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 6: the gym where they've got all their death set up.

652
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 6: Someone's wearing a Sacramento Kings jersey, but we never get

653
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 6: to see who's the black Yeah, there's im thinking two

654
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 6: thousand and four, two thousan in four two thousand and five,

655
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 6: So who would have been on the back of Sto Yakovic?

656
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: Maybe Weber? I would think Weber a bibious traded though?

657
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 6: Did he didn't? He didn't? Where we get traded around

658
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 6: into Philadelphia?

659
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: Or was that have a jersey that's one year old?

660
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

661
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another thing I would have liked to see

662
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: was when Chris Weber got traded. How did these guys

663
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: react to their jersey?

664
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 6: Well, you think about it now, you'd never see a

665
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 6: Sacramento Kings jersey in a movie right now, would you?

666
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 6: You know? I mean that's probably the last time we

667
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 6: saw a King's jersey in the movie was back then.

668
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 6: Haven't made the playoffs.

669
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 5: Since about Ladybird in King's Jerseys and Lady Bird it's

670
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: the only other Sacramento movie around.

671
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: The Richmond by Sacramento. I guess that sort of makes sense.

672
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, we also go to like a Sacramento college afterwards.

673
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, the yeah, mister three point whatever potential dad?

674
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: Is that Kenyon?

675
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

676
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he goes.

677
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: To the jerseys. Also, I spotted there was a Blazer's

678
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: Wallace jersey. Nice. There was a Pacers run our test jersey. Yeah,

679
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: that was nice. You also see like a Bullets jersey

680
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: in the background. I'm not sure what the player it was.

681
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: There's a Sixers jersey too. At one point was that

682
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: never sent it? I think at one point? Yeah, I

683
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: can't remember.

684
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 5: If you I remember split Paul Pierce jersey.

685
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and half green and white. Yeah. Yeah. I sort

686
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: of want now a custom K Carter Oilers jersey, but

687
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what number i'd.

688
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: Like the throwback from when ken played, Yes, seventy one,

689
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 5: seventy two, yes, exactly that.

690
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what year I would go with.

691
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 5: I don't see the looks.

692
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I hope they had better look at

693
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: jerseys than the Wednesday wore. I hated their look because.

694
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: I don't like that colored palate an orange.

695
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.

696
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Oh, that's why it brings you back to high school.

697
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: A lot of ugly jerseys back in high school.

698
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it does, like in terms of the

699
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: bagginess of all the clothes. My god, that's where we

700
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: were rocking, Like you said, the sort of ugly look

701
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: the jerseys. The the gym really did remind me a

702
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: little bit of our high school gym because we had

703
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: we had sort of two gyms in our high school.

704
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: We had the one big gym, which was more like

705
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: of a bright, normal gym, but then we had what

706
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: we called like the dungeon, and it was sort of

707
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: like a like the floor was it was old, like

708
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: super old, not a lot of light. It felt like similar.

709
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: There's looked a little bigger than what we had. But

710
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: uh does take you back, takes you back to your

711
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: high school basketball playing days, no doubt about that. And

712
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: run and like truthfully, we ran a lot of suicides.

713
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: Didn't do as many push ups. I don't remember. We

714
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: didn't know a lot of those.

715
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was all about the suicides. Yeah, did the

716
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: math for me? Our suicides were free throw lineback, half

717
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 5: court back, other free throw line back, say full court back. Yeah,

718
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 5: if you just did full court and back, just down

719
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: and back a thousand times thirty one miles and that's

720
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: without like the in between stuff.

721
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: So like, so this guy was running, so he cruised

722
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: one up. He ran a marathon, easily, ran a marathon

723
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: over a couple of days. But thought it was.

724
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: Monday when he came in. Sure, and I assumed that

725
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: he had to do it during practice time.

726
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: Sure, so I agree, is it possible, Yeah, it's possible.

727
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely. I mean if you do what two

728
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 5: two hundred a day for five days, so six miles

729
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: a day during during running during practice, plus you got

730
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 5: to get to push ups in See.

731
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: I thought it was a Wednesday, and I thought he

732
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: still pulled it off even in two days. Speaking of

733
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: days of the week, I thought the pair.

734
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 6: He came up short, that I remember because everyone else

735
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 6: had to help him out. They were, you know, so,

736
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 6: and how how was that tracking who's doing what? And

737
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 6: how many did you even mentioned him?

738
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: At the first time? It was just cruise was just

739
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: running like oh, actually, we got to got to keep

740
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: it tracked over.

741
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: It was an honor system at first. Yeah. Yeah.

742
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of days of the week, I thought the parents

743
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: were protesting that they had to play that big school

744
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: on a Saturday. High school basketball on a Saturday. Does

745
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 3: that happen?

746
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: Tournaments.

747
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: No, but that wasn't that was was League game, the

748
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: Fremont game. Yeah, yeah, the Fremont game exactly Friday. Sure,

749
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: but you have to come in on a Saturday. Yikes.

750
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 2: Did you guys have in your viewing and unedited version

751
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: of this movie? Because I was watching like sort of

752
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: through a m C.

753
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

754
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: I started at AMC and I saw the warning and

755
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: then I was like, now I'm renting this sorry, oh wow,

756
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: because it says edited for content, I'm like, nop, Well, yeah, I.

757
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Mean I don't so. Yeah, I really don't even know

758
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: what I was missing. Who knows? Was there a sex

759
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: scene between the.

760
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: Shan Did you get the ninety nine cent thong scene

761
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 5: on AM?

762
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 6: Yes?

763
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: I did get that.

764
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 5: That was the closest.

765
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you think sex I got? Yeah, sure, I

766
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: can't mean I also.

767
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 6: That's right he pus it out in the in the cafeteria,

768
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 6: doesn't it. They're in like a restaurant, flinging it round.

769
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in the diner or something. My my bullets

770
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: were turned into bogus.

771
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah I got that too. Yeah, I was

772
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: watching the edited version. Got by when Rennie died that

773
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: that gout that gout by the edited version, but no

774
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: other swears. What did they play the Skeet Skeet Skeets song?

775
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

776
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, dance.

777
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: Oh that soundtrack was very good.

778
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

779
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a big reason why people like this movie.

780
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: I think it is.

781
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: The songs themselves are fine and the score is fine,

782
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: but I didn't like that they played that song at

783
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 4: a high school dance with seventeen year old girls. Sorry

784
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: to be an old man.

785
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the soundtrack banks, look you have fabulous chingy Ciara,

786
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Kanye Common, Faith, Twist of Saint, Ludatics, Tray songs, and

787
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: then yeah, Little John's.

788
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: Get any r D. Was that song is great?

789
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

790
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: Cool? Jay otis writing songs. Nobody girl, that song that

791
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: was that was a hit the sky and could be

792
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: popping into that was It was stacked. It was stacked.

793
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if that was your like era, you know,

794
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: if you were in high school in two thousand and five.

795
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean it was past my time. But it's like, wow,

796
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: if that's all the songs you heard at dances and

797
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: at parties and stuff like that, like yeah, fair enough,

798
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: fair enough?

799
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: What's not You didn't like to get low at the Yeah?

800
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: Is that the one with the skeet skeets here.

801
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry, it's not on the soundtrack. It's just

802
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: in the movie. Really yeah wow, but they didn't put

803
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: it on soundtrack. I didn't get the rights to it,

804
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: I guess.

805
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you get the rates for the movie

806
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: but not the sukay? I mean it can only help

807
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: you anyways. Yeah that soign did. Okay, so they're all good?

808
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: Did h Lee? Did you have a favorite random observation

809
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: from this movie?

810
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 6: Well, just that coach Carter wore a suit with a

811
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 6: tie like all the time, even during practice, which I

812
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 6: thought was a bit crazy. I understand it off game day,

813
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 6: but I've never ever ever seen a coach in practice

814
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 6: in a in a suit and tie. Like okay, first day,

815
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 6: first day, sure, I get it, you know, but then

816
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 6: like when they're just going through their regular practices and

817
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: he's still in that, I'm just like, wouldn't you get uncomfortable?

818
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 6: I mean you, you know, like you want to get

819
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 6: on the court sometimes and show the guys what you're

820
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 6: trying to do. But he's there with the with the

821
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 6: full suit on. I thought, I understand he's trying to

822
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 6: send a mess, you know, like he wants them to

823
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 6: wear ties and stuff on game day, but during practice

824
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 6: like that would just be very very uncomfortable for me,

825
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 6: I think. So, you know, I thought he could have

826
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 6: just got the sweats on or a pair of shorts,

827
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 6: you know. And also wouldn't the coach at some point

828
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 6: just want to be shooting the shooting around a little

829
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 6: bit himself, you know, No.

830
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 5: Great question. Samuel Jackson dribbles the ball one time this

831
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: whole movie, and then he puts his foot.

832
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: On the one.

833
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, he sat on it very smoothly too. I thought

834
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: he was going down for Yeah.

835
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

836
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 5: I would have been like, if I'm Timo Cruz, this

837
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 5: guy comes in here, ask me to sign a contract,

838
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 5: run all this, get my grades up. I'm saying, make

839
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 5: a free throw, coach, Yeah, show me your shop.

840
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 4: Yeah. He's up there on the bend.

842
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: That could be any k Carter. That could be Kyle Carter.

843
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a skim. That's a twist to this movie.

844
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: He is not the actual Carter on the on the wall. Wow.

845
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: I like that. Did you have to wear a tray

846
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: or anybody else have to wear you know, jackets or

847
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: ties on game day?

848
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: We did until we got travel suits. We had to

849
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 5: wear tie freshman and sophomore year, and then once he

850
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 5: made varsity had like cool traveling suits, traveling suits like sweats,

851
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: like a like a pair of purple pants and a

852
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: zip up like kind of jacket.

853
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: Pretty Lee, did you have to wear ever, you know,

854
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: a tie? Do you have to dress up for game days?

855
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 6: I guess no, no, no, not in high school. No,

856
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 6: we just turned up in whatever you're wearing, you know,

857
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 6: track pants and a jacket, I mean like a sweat jacket.

858
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 6: You know, that's it. Yeah, there's nothing formal about it

859
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 6: at all. For the all boys from Sunbury, Sumbury Town

860
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 6: here they.

861
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: Come any random observations from you guys.

862
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: I thought his reaction to the grades not being up

863
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: to snuff was a little much what the actor. Yeah,

864
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: like when he's after the after oh and he arrives

865
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: back after he yells at everybody for going to a party.

866
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: I mean, come one, coach Carter, they won and their

867
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: kids just let cut him some slack man. And then

868
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: he arrives back in his office and there are the results.

869
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 4: City opens the results in Oh my, He's like.

870
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 5: Incomplete.

871
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't have Yeah, I wouldn't have played it

872
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: that he.

873
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: Chucks the paper.

874
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, chucks like Chris Farley being told that these aren't

875
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: real folders crystals.

876
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: He's like, what.

877
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 5: No, man, what a zing though by Tiamo, Who's like,

878
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 5: you want us to be winners, coach, Yeah we are. Well,

879
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: I guess you're right. Also, I mean, I don't know

880
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 5: about this coach Carter. The more I'm thinking about it,

881
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 5: he waited until sixteen games to get the progress reports.

882
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I know he's asking. I know he's not

883
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: getting any he's not getting any assistance from the school.

884
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 5: But go talk to a teacher.

885
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: I was confused by that. When he came back from

886
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: the party, they were staying at a hotel. Are we

887
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: left to believe he came back at night because it

888
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: was pitch black in his office? Yeah, so what did

889
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: he do? He got off the bus, he said, we're

890
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: taking this bus home right now. It's whatever it is.

891
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: I think. So, yeah, they're they win the tournament. They're

892
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: about to stay the night at the hotel or a

893
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: hotel or whatever. You're right, they all sneak out. You

894
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: go to the party, they take cabs there and then

895
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: the cab driver just totally recover yeah. Yeah, so then

896
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: they all they get in trouble because they're at the

897
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: party and they're in the hotel and all that, and

898
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: they're drinking, and then yeah, I think they come. I

899
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: think you're led to believe they literally like, that's it,

900
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: We're taking.

901
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: The bus home.

902
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: I guess they're all they're all sleeping too. Tiamo's falling

903
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: asleep on the bus. So it wouldn't make sense that

904
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: it's late at night.

905
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: But why didn't they just take the bus home to begin.

906
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: With, save some money?

907
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: Why did they have to stay in the hotel they

908
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: weren't playing another game the next day.

909
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm being reminded. Was he told he was getting

910
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: them on a Friday. That would sort of make sense

911
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: that he came back and they're right there. But yeah,

912
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: he overplayed the acting, no doubt. But maybe that's a

913
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 3: that's on the director.

914
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 4: I think as on the director.

915
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: It's on the director. Yeah, that he overreacted, but also

916
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: that if it was it was played up a little

917
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: bit more, then the acting would have been fine, Like

918
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: if it was built up a little bit more.

919
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've thought it was very weird. Maybe these

920
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: exist that the coach's office could see right into the

921
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: locker room and basically into the shower, straight windows right

922
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: into that.

923
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: Well, actually, now i'm thinking about it, our locker room

924
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 5: was exactly like, well, that is fascinating.

925
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: I guess maybe it's to prevent shenanigans. Yeah, but like

926
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: any type of guess guess I mean, I don't know.

927
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean because those are like two parts of the

928
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: office windows see right in there. Okay, what's up, guys.

929
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I guess it is a thing now that

930
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: I think about it. Maybe ours had a window, like

931
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: a smaller window from the coach's office. Yeah, I think

932
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: it actually did. Yeah, but uh, I also liked.

933
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: Uh speaking of windows, sorry skeets. When Samuel Jackson is

934
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 3: approach in his car by some random yeah, he opens

935
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: his window just a crack to talk to another person.

936
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: I would never do that. Is he going for his life?

937
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: How do you talk to somebody in another car through

938
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: just a tiny little crack. It works out for him

939
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: perfectly because the spit lands on the window. Maybe he's

940
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: aware of the town that he's living in that you don't.

941
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: You don't crack your window all the way.

942
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 4: I wonder if that's a production thing because you want

943
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: to see that spit Otherwise it's not gonna read that. Well,

944
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 4: another guy spitting from another car or guy.

945
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: Or it's written in the script. He puts the window

946
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: down and the guy spits on Samuel L. Jackson. Samuel

947
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: Jackson is like, I'm not doing that, right, a guy's

948
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: spitting on me. They're like, all right, well, what exactly

949
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: it's possible.

950
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: That's very good.

951
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, well, well you will open your window

952
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: a little bit and then we'll go in the window.

953
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: All right, we'll do that.

954
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, because it works both ways. Maybe

955
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: Samuel Jackson's reaction is bigger and more emphatic if he

956
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: gets spit on. But also I don't know, it.

957
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: Was pretty big. He got out and he he wanted

958
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: to fight the guy.

959
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: That's true, Yeah, that's true. Okay.

960
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: I think Eric right skeets at Windy Timmy wrote in

961
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: and he did ask us to if we could please

962
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: start saying, now, those are some stats for your ass.

963
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: I think we got to add that to uh to

964
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: our podcast, Lexico. That is a good, good line. And

965
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: the time we're talking stats, somebody's got a drop. Now

966
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: those are some stats for your ass.

967
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: That's good.

968
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 6: That's my favorite part of the especially when you're talking

969
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 6: to John Schumann.

970
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: That was your favorite part of the movie.

971
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, just him basically revealing what he why he is

972
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 4: the way he is, and saying, this is why we're

973
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: doing this because you know what was it fifty percent

974
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: don't graduate. Of those fifty percent go to call actually

975
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: get to go to college. And if you're an African American,

976
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: you're you have an eighty percent more chance to go

977
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: to jail than you do to college. And they were like, yeah, okay,

978
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 4: we get it, We're you know it was that was

979
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 4: a good moment for me in the movie as went

980
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: at That's when I was the most into it. I

981
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: was like, yea, yeah, yeah, tell him.

982
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: Agree with you right right? Yeah, no, you're right. Uh

983
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: I think too. Just back to the basketball playing in

984
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: the movie, you're right very uh very like what are

985
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: we running here? Let's run this into the ground. I

986
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: get all that very scripted, is my point. I will

987
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: say though a lot of the players, the actors looked

988
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: like they could sort of play. I got a chunk

989
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 2: of them like you're like like if you'd ever see

990
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: them coming up the court with the ball. There was

991
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: like some behind the backs and they looked some of

992
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: them looked pretty comfortable with the basketball. So that was

993
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: a nice change. Now, I think I read Channing Tatum

994
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: had never maybe even picked up a basketball, just a

995
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: nat life and you didn't see them a lot.

996
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: He didn't do anything in this movie. Yeah, he took

997
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: a charge once.

998
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, true.

999
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: I guess it was called the block, but it was

1000
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: a yeah, oh yeah, that's all that happened. He didn't

1001
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: do any Yeah, you don't see him the storyline other

1002
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: than being the the white guy on the team and

1003
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: a big name. It was. It could have been acted

1004
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 3: as well.

1005
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, was he a big name at the time.

1006
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 5: This was his first movie?

1007
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 4: Okay, put him on the map. Yeah, and he was

1008
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 4: twenty five at the time. I just did a quick

1009
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: oh this way, he's born in eighty. It was pretty

1010
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: This movie was came out in two thousand five, was

1011
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 4: his first A that is correct.

1012
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to throw in there, be it.

1013
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: Your favorite quote, great lines. After after the party, they're

1014
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 5: on the bus home. They're talking about sign autographs and

1015
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: humping the honeys, and Samuel Jackson says, I'm gonna show

1016
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 5: you what humping is. Yeah, That's all I'm saying. Every

1017
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: time I walk in the door I get home. Oh,

1018
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 5: show you what humping is? Also great?

1019
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: What did he mean by that?

1020
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 5: Like great dusk though?

1021
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1022
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: Also great? Was after the very last basketball game they

1023
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 5: lose on a jumper. First thing, Samuel Jackson says when

1024
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 5: he comes in the locker room. Not quite your story

1025
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 5: book ending. Yeah, fake Sam.

1026
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just gonna beat you over the head.

1027
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 5: You're like, it is it?

1028
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: You're right? Yeah?

1029
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: It was a three pointer too. That guy took that cry.

1030
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: I went back and watched there because the score flipped

1031
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: up three points for them, and I'm like, whoa, whoa.

1032
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like he was taking a three or

1033
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: the work like it. But I lean back and it

1034
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: does appear he's outside of the line where he's moving

1035
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: outside of the line at the top for his little

1036
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: fade away there. Uh Lee, I do have a question

1037
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: for you if you were coming up with a if

1038
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: you were a coach Carter coming up with a play,

1039
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: what would what particular woman would you name the play

1040
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: after in your life? Be a defense or offense?

1041
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know that that was interesting. How he's

1042
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 6: just rattling through chicks in his life to come up

1043
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 6: with basketball plays and me. We were laughing at Coach

1044
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 6: Beeline for coming up with animals, but Coach Cotta just

1045
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 6: comes up with chicks. Who would I name?

1046
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: What would it be like? Okay, we're running roxy here?

1047
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: What is rocks? Yeah?

1048
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1049
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 6: Oh, what's the roxy play? That would probably be a

1050
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 6: pretty safe play? I say that much. I don't know.

1051
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: High screen and roll, something that's going to get you

1052
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 6: a good, high percentage basket.

1053
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: I think.

1054
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 6: I think that's the best I could come up with

1055
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 6: right now on the spot. But I'll think about them.

1056
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 6: I'll try to come up with something a bit better.

1057
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. Anything else for you guys? Want to

1058
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: throw some grades on this, some scores on this. I

1059
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: think we're missing people were sort of fine with this movie.

1060
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: So I'm interested to hear what the scores suss out

1061
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: what we got.

1062
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: Hmm.

1063
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: I'm going to give this five hundred and fifty suicides

1064
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 5: out of a thousand.

1065
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: Wow, five hundred and fifty suicides out of thousand. Well,

1066
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: I'll go next because I have a similar scoring system.

1067
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: I was gonna give it three hundred and fifty push

1068
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: ups out of one thousand. I didn't know I didn't

1069
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: make this that clear. I actually hated this movie. Again

1070
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: the message on point did not like it. It was

1071
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: I was checking the time a lot from this one, going,

1072
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: whoa man, we got an hour ago? Yeah, there was

1073
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: a it was, it was long.

1074
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 6: I'll give it a three surves out of five stores

1075
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 6: because you know, like I say, originally I was going

1076
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 6: to give it a one surf because I thought this

1077
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 6: is like even Teenwolf, they have more adversity in the

1078
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 6: basketball court. But then I read and it was like

1079
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 6: fairly you know, fairly accurate. So I thought, okay, that's

1080
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 6: not too bad. Then I'll give a three three surves.

1081
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 6: I mean, I won't be going to watch it again.

1082
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 6: But you know, any Samuel L. Jackson movie is usually

1083
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 6: pretty good. So you know, three three out of five,

1084
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 6: and that's a bold take.

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Speaker 5: Any Samuel Jackson movie is pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Well, the ones and the ones that I've enjoyed.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, from Samuel, you know, Time to Kill, Pulp Fiction,

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Speaker 6: The Negotiator.

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Speaker 5: He does have good movies.

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Speaker 6: For Fresh is a great movie. Is anyone seen Fresh?

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00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 6: No that came out just after Pulp Fiction? That was

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00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 6: a really good movie.

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00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: What about Sneaks on a Plane? Like that one. I

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00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: haven't seen that one.

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00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, I don't think I'll be watching that one.

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Speaker 6: But uh yeah, Sammy, Sammy's great.

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Speaker 2: He's great. He's a great character.

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Speaker 4: Samy's great, exactly right, sam Samuel L. Jackson is a character,

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Speaker 4: the character that he played. I'm gonna go I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: sticking with my bibbleheads. It's a two out of five

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Speaker 4: bibble heads.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: I looked up to see where it landed on sports

1104
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: movies like lists the greatest sports movies of all time.

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00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: Bleacher Report has a terrible list of one hundred greatest

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00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 4: sports movies. They actually the only one they got right

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00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: was Coach Carter at fifty four. Okay, okay, so then

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00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: I think that belongs there. It's a it's just fine,

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00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: right fine, keeping in mind that they have Hoosiers as

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Speaker 4: number one. There's no rad at all. I've got one

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00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 4: hundred movies, doesn't make the top one hundred, and Blue

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00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 4: Crush is eighty nine. But they but they did get fifty.

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Speaker 2: Four, right, Okay, so right in the middle.

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00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: It's right in the middle. It's if you don't think

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Speaker 4: about it, if if we ruined it for a lot

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00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 4: of people, I'm sure by talking about it. If you

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00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: just don't think about it and you don't talk about

1118
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: it and you just let it wash over. Yeah, it's fine.

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00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: It's a it's a pleasant little time waster. As my

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00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: dad would say, Okay, tassy.

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Speaker 3: Three yells out of five yells.

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00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 2: So we're all pretty similar. Really, Yeah, everyone's like, man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's fine, And I'm not dying to watch

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00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 5: it again. I remember I had this on DVD. I

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Speaker 5: bought Coach Carter on DVD for five dollars from Walmart.

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00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 2: Wow.

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00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: Never opened it.

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00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

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00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 5: I donated it in the cellophane a And I would

1130
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: do it again. I would go buy this again and

1131
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: just have it sitting in my shelves.

1132
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: But here's the problem. Like I think we're I do

1133
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: think we're like we got it right here. It's like

1134
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: it's fine, like we're saying whatever, three to five, whatever.

1135
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: But I'm just why, I'm just so dumbfounded with the

1136
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: the the pouring of support for this movie, the outpouring

1137
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: of support for this movie and how much people love

1138
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: it that the part is the weirdest part to me.

1139
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: It's like, how can you think this is your favorite movie?

1140
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: Especially have you never seen Lean On me, have you

1141
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 4: never seen any other sports movie that's that's I mean,

1142
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 4: I think it is.

1143
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: Just well that that really takes me back to high

1144
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: school ball. Yeah, and it does sort of hit that,

1145
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: and it's got enough of that happening in it where

1146
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, yeah, I had a coach who was

1147
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: a excuse me, like a hard ass, or the gym

1148
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: looked like that, or you know, we dressed like that

1149
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: and we taught like that. Okay, Yeah, the nostalgic factor

1150
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: for sure, and that's probably a big reason why people

1151
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: are like, oh, yeah, this is why I love it.

1152
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: Trey bought it on d V DV. Yeah, I mean

1153
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: people just were pumped to see a high school basketball

1154
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: movie at that time. Sure, I think that's what happened.

1155
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: Looking at Rotten Tomatoes, speaking of the DVD, apparently it

1156
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: was in theaters for a week and then it came

1157
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: out on DVD. Oh no, no, no, no. J A

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00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: N and j U N. Those look similar to me,

1159
00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: but they're not.

1160
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: So that's that's a long time.

1161
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: It's a good run.

1162
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 4: It's a great run. Good for you, coach Carter.

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, look, I'm gonna say it because I was

1164
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: shocked when I watched it, I thought Ashanti was hotter

1165
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: in my head, the Ashanti when I was growing up.

1166
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought she was a smoke show. And

1167
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 2: then I guess watching this, you know, fifteen twenty years later,

1168
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: I was like, she's cute, very cute, but not the

1169
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: smoke show. I thought, now, maybe they toned it down

1170
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: or something for her character. But I was like a

1171
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: little taken back by that. I was like, what did

1172
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: I have it wrong? Was that just me being younger obviously,

1173
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: or was it she's changed for the movie.

1174
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't really speak to I didn't. I have

1175
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 4: no idea who she is. I think the only thing

1176
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 4: I've ever seen her in is Coach Carter. I don't

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00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: know who is.

1178
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 5: Mostly know her from singing with Jah Rule, I would think, yeah,

1179
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: exactly exactly.

1180
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I know Ru and I.

1181
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 5: What's on what they do together?

1182
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: Not?

1183
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 4: I'm real they did the other one always on time? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1184
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 4: But I don't think i've ever seen seen her.

1185
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: Yea did she act like in other movies? I don't know.

1186
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: She's in the Sad Joe, What's Love? Like she always

1187
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: was the like she's doing the.

1188
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: Chorus right right uncredited in malcolm X.

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00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: What Okay, so she did have some of it? All right?

1190
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: All right, those are our scores for Coach Carter. I

1191
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: hope you didn't upset too many of you. I know

1192
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: this is one of your favorite movies, and maybe we've

1193
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: changed your opinion or you know what. Tell us why

1194
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 2: we're wrong. Yeah, tell us why we're wrong. Tell us

1195
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: why you love Coach Carter so much. Email us no

1196
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: dunks at the Athletic dot Com. Hit us up on

1197
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 2: Twitter hashtag no dunks at, No dunk Sync.

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00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 5: Get your votes in. We're gonna be picking another movie.

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00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh right, Yeah, this was the people's selection. I mean,

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00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: we had four movies, basketball movies to pick from, and

1201
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: this is what the people picked, the Coach Car. So

1202
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: we'll see what you guys come up with next. All right, guys,

1203
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: before we say goodbye, here, tass, you got something fun

1204
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 2: in store a little bit later.

1205
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 3: Today, Yes, sir, you want a preview.

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00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me a little bit more. What are you

1207
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: talking about.

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00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: Well, we're talking to a fan of ours who was

1209
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 3: married this past weekend during the coronavirus epidemic. So all

1210
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: the highs and lows that come with that, the worries

1211
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: are we going to cancel this thing? Is this thing

1212
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: actually gonna happen? Are people gonna show up to this way?

1213
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: Are people gonna hug? Am I gonna kiss my bride?

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00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: Whoa wow? Okay, So that's later today, you're looking forward

1215
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: to that. On Tuesday, we're gonna count down the top

1216
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: ten games to rewatch from the twenty nineteen twenty season.

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00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: League pass available to all oh yeah free. So we

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00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: thought it'd be fun because we saw a couple of

1219
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: tweeting in, well what game should I watch? You know

1220
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: from this year? Well, we're gonna give you a top

1221
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: ten list, well some honorable mentions as well. We'll break

1222
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 2: it down for you and you can go back watch

1223
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: some of these. We've been doing some research on this.

1224
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: Damn forgot how awesome basketball.

1225
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 5: We watched every game, we've ranked them all.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, we'll be stepping on the beach, So emails

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00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: your questions no dunks at the Athletic dot Com Thursday.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the No Buffs Survivor Recap podcast and

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Speaker 2: we've got a few other things cooking here. So subscribe

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Speaker 2: to the podcast, Tell your friends, tell your family, and

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Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember, in the words of

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Speaker 3: Mary Ann Williamson and tim O Cruz, our deepest fere

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Speaker 3: is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fhere is

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Speaker 3: that we are powerful beyond measure.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day.

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Speaker 4: People, you could stay every day.

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Speaker 2: And d be happy every minuting. It's been so long

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Speaker 2: with your.

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Speaker 4: Already, it's kind of it.

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