WEBVTT - Faded… None of These Candidates!

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<v Speaker 1>Native Land Pod is a production of iHeart Radio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with Reason Choice Media. What's up, everybody, Welcome home,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all to the fifth episode of Native Land Pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Per se Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Day here the birth day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm forty five, y'all get it good? Thank you good?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell y'all, I didn't know it was middle aged?

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<v Speaker 2>You're choosing violence?

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<v Speaker 4>I give you permission.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know it was middle aged. I didn't know forty.

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<v Speaker 5>Received it really no middle as.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't put you in your trump here.

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<v Speaker 2>I know forty five is bad. It started out bad,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's gonna end up good.

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<v Speaker 3>You get second chances, third.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Well anyway, Quarius seasons. So thank y'all because this is

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday gift here being with you all. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners after this, we're all going to go eat

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<v Speaker 1>stuff our faces.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we get there. It depends on if we decide

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<v Speaker 4>to fill a bust to this pot or not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>can we go along on this pod?

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<v Speaker 3>We do. We don't know how to stop talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have so much interesting things to say that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot happening in the media. Yes, yes, well

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<v Speaker 1>we think are interesting, Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The listener may or may not, who knows well.

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<v Speaker 2>The numbers say they do. Thank y'all for rolling with us.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know on Nata Lampid, we give it to

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<v Speaker 1>you straight, no chaser, And so I want to let

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know, we are going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be talking about a lot on this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to we had a primary this week, two

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<v Speaker 1>primaries on Nevada and Nevada.

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<v Speaker 5>Forgive me all the folks in Nevada on the West coast, right,

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<v Speaker 5>let's the a Ryan go never let us this is

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<v Speaker 5>the West Coast Nevada, Nevada in South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll get into that immigration. Every time we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about immigration, I feel like it's a flood of comments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people feel away and people, I will tell you, people

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<v Speaker 1>have been coming after me like Tiffany, you have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what you're talking about, and let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>And New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And I heard y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're gonna get into that again today.

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<v Speaker 1>In shall we gonna we want to come rod to

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<v Speaker 1>your city, invite us. We're also going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>something that we talked about doing on this podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about some of these state bills that are happening

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people don't pay attention and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these state these laws that are passed to

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<v Speaker 1>the state legislature become federal law. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>start paying attention to that as well. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know what's happening Sunday. Yes, the NFL, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>That Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and angel I know you read a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>report from Mackenzie.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to take a moment and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys because of the response to Andrew's testimony last week. Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you stay on social media, we all need to,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was overwhelming. There were so many people just

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<v Speaker 1>showing you all the love of my brothers. So his

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<v Speaker 1>testimony was so harrowing and so much. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>play the second half of his testimony, so I want

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<v Speaker 1>you guys to really stick around and listen to that

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<v Speaker 1>because after going through such turmoil and personal crisis and

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<v Speaker 1>and surviving that so teers to you. Then the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>send another challenger away and you survived that, but getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the trial, I think that is super, super important,

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys please be sure to stick around for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we allowed to get to get into this podcast. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get right into it. I think we have to

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<v Speaker 1>kick it off with the primaries this week, the primary

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina and Nevada. So I think why it's important

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<v Speaker 1>for us to talk about this is these two states

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<v Speaker 1>have the highest population of people of when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to primary state.

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<v Speaker 3>So far in the yeah, oh no period.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for primary states.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So South Carolina has a large not the largest, but

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<v Speaker 1>a very large black population, and Nevada has a very

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<v Speaker 1>large Latino population, black population, indigenous population. Right, big labor

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<v Speaker 1>community there because of all the casinos. Labor obviously plays

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<v Speaker 1>an outsize role in politics. So we got to get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I will be honest with you guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not paying attention. Well, I wanted to take a

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<v Speaker 1>break from it all. I wanted to like focus on myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I felt a little ease being out of

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<v Speaker 1>the news. So Angela actually updated me this morning. Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>please tell me the results of the Nevada Nevada primier.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I will say the Biden heres campaign pushed out

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<v Speaker 5>some results this morning talking about there were there was

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<v Speaker 5>a ninety percent of the twenty twenty turnout in this

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<v Speaker 5>year's primary South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>No, this is in Nevada, Novada.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and I think that I'm a little concerned because

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<v Speaker 5>I know you said, Andrews said, I wouldn't have shown

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<v Speaker 5>up at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe, yeah, but I think that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we just need to be aware of these numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly as it relates to people of color. However, I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like the big news in Nevada is that Nicki

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<v Speaker 5>Haley opted out of the caucuses and into the primary.

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<v Speaker 5>She says she didn't compete. Her campaign says she didn't compete.

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<v Speaker 5>But let me tell you who did compete.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait, So that the

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<v Speaker 3>viewers understanding completely, Donald Trump chose the caucuses over the primaries,

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<v Speaker 3>and therefore was not a name on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, okay, okay, yes, So because you can only pick

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<v Speaker 5>the primary or the caucuses. Yes, so Nicki Haley chose

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<v Speaker 5>the ballot, she chose the primary, and there was another

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<v Speaker 5>choice on the ballot that Donald Trump did push. So

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<v Speaker 5>there was a ghost of Donald Trump on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 5>It was not any of these candidates. Wait, but do

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<v Speaker 5>you mean like none of the other candidates are on there.

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<v Speaker 4>Or a choice.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a choice that said, and I quote, not

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<v Speaker 5>any of these candidates, Haley.

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<v Speaker 2>Any option B is none of y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Do y'all want to know who won?

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<v Speaker 5>I have a feeling any of these candidates.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 5>So the campaign is trying heard it, but they needed

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<v Speaker 5>to hear that. Here's the thing, Nikki Haley has to

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<v Speaker 5>be embarrassed. Her campaign has to be mortified. But they

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<v Speaker 5>said they putting it all on the line of South Carolina. So,

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<v Speaker 5>of course South Carolina primaries this weekend were just the

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>The Republicans are coming up on the twenty four. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as you were saying this, our producer, Nick is

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<v Speaker 1>a spellar producer. He actually has the winner of the

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<v Speaker 1>GOP primary caucus on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Please help me welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>None of these candidates. Thank you for joining us. About

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<v Speaker 1>your good feats. I'm sorry about your victory. Give us

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<v Speaker 1>your remarks on your stellar victory in Nevada. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that you heard it here first, folks, we have the

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<v Speaker 1>GOP winner of the Nevada primary with those really riveting,

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<v Speaker 1>compelling remarks, I say, all right, can we just I

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<v Speaker 1>know we got to move on, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about South Carolina because some people were taking that

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, oh, it wasn't a big turnout, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>black voters aren't turning out. I get so tired of

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that that that trope. Did you guys have any

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that or are we done with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, black voters weren't turning out for the Republican primary,

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<v Speaker 3>of course not.

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<v Speaker 4>But true Republican primary, that's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet I understand. But my point is is in a

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<v Speaker 3>non contested presidential election, right, a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 3>take time to go out to the polls to just

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<v Speaker 3>reconfirm what we already know, which is Biden and Harris

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<v Speaker 3>will be the nominees for Democrats. So to me, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think we ought to overread that.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing I'll tell you guys is our dear sister Latasha Brown,

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<v Speaker 5>who's been doing work all over the south South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna forget about you, brother.

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<v Speaker 5>I just say our sister because she's but yes, and

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<v Speaker 5>Cliff Albright and April I love them.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say this.

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<v Speaker 5>They said that there was an increase in black voter

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<v Speaker 5>turnout in South Carolina. So even though the numbers were down,

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<v Speaker 5>I tell you, did I see an increase in black

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<v Speaker 5>voter turnout on his ballot count was Dean Phillips.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought you was gonna say, Jim Scott.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know what, Jim Scott is competing in the

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<v Speaker 5>Republican primary, competing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>He's still on the ballot. I think he was. He wasn't. No,

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<v Speaker 4>he was on the He's on the ballot in Nevada.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't take you. I don't think they could take

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<v Speaker 4>you off. We gotta check and none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And not even so he got beat by nobody either not.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, yes, okay, yeah, that Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing is the one who's still in the race.

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<v Speaker 5>Nikki Hayley got beat by one of these kids.

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<v Speaker 2>President, none of these candidates.

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<v Speaker 3>Might you want to run? None of them?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, change your name legally, Nemorda.

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<v Speaker 1>I know for your birthday, for your birthday, it's name that's.

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<v Speaker 2>An Obama Carter.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, we got a lot more show coming

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<v Speaker 1>up when we come back after this break. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into immigration. You guys have a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>say about immigration. Okay, I'm eager for this next topic

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<v Speaker 1>because immigration. We've talked about this a few times on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and so many of you guys listening way

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<v Speaker 1>in on this immigration thing. And look, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard everybody from Chicago and New York say, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you don't know, you don't know. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>know where Angela and I are in our girl group,

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<v Speaker 1>our group chat, and so in our co ed chat. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this came up in our co ed chat

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about immigration. And this is how

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<v Speaker 1>I know we have our finger on the pulse of

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<v Speaker 1>the community because you guys, your questions are always very

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<v Speaker 1>consistent with what we talk about. And so I want

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<v Speaker 1>to kick us off with a viewer question. Who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get us right into this conversation. So let's rode off

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<v Speaker 1>your question and we'll talk about it on the other side.

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<v Speaker 7>Good day, Navy Land. My name is Valentine and I

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<v Speaker 7>live in Hinesvith, Georgia. My question is what do you

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<v Speaker 7>think about what fifty cent did over the weekend when

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<v Speaker 7>he did a tweet me personally, I have a problem

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<v Speaker 7>with that because if you're gonna tweet something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Tweet all the other stuff too, Tweet what the House

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<v Speaker 7>Republicans doing right now. That's not working with the Democratic

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<v Speaker 7>Party about making some kind of bill to control the border.

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<v Speaker 7>He's not education's people. I do believe people like that.

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<v Speaker 7>The rappers, they're not. They have a platform, but they're

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<v Speaker 7>not really educating the people like they should.

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<v Speaker 8>Then more what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I have a lot of thoughts on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna kick it to y'all. Well, I have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Challenging time when first, let me just say, rappers are

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<v Speaker 1>tax paying citizens and they have a right to weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in on everything. So I really don't appreciate this, not

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<v Speaker 1>from the viewer, but sometimes from society. There's this attitude

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<v Speaker 1>of shut up and dribble, you know, stick to sports,

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<v Speaker 1>stick to music. And these people probably pay more taxes

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<v Speaker 1>than some of the people suggesting these things.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has a right to weigh in. Fair fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the bigger point that I would say

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<v Speaker 1>for people who hear these kind of remarks because somebody

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<v Speaker 1>read a paper for the first time in six months,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not an expert on something. Because someone is doing

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this like hashtag news following. They're not an expert.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one person's opinion, and so when you hear this,

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<v Speaker 1>I would invite everybody fine the solid resource yourself because

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<v Speaker 1>fifty doesn't work on immigration issues at all. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think the bigger issue that this gets into. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that what the viewer is trying to suggest is there

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<v Speaker 1>are other issues happening. One of the conversations we were

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<v Speaker 1>having is in the black community. Are there are some

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<v Speaker 1>members of the black community who are being anti immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>or is it a fight over resources?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Tiff, I agree with you that any tax paying citizen,

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<v Speaker 5>anyone that is watching what's happening in this country has

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<v Speaker 5>a right to appine on it. Even young folks who

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<v Speaker 5>don't aren't working, or are elders who may not be working,

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<v Speaker 5>they have a right to appine on what's happening. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the challenge is that when we think about the

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<v Speaker 5>haves and the have nots, oftentimes folks who look like

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<v Speaker 5>us find ourselves on the have not side like most

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<v Speaker 5>other people of color, right, And I think that the

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<v Speaker 5>concern I have is the haves get to escape with

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<v Speaker 5>you know, blemish free, like there's nothing on them about

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<v Speaker 5>this and that is what is troubling to me.

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<v Speaker 4>So fifty cent. He actually didn't just have an opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>He raised a question, Eric Adams, tell me what's going

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<v Speaker 5>on with these cards?

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<v Speaker 2>So, well, les's we should say what the cards are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so there is a pilot program in place in

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<v Speaker 5>New York and yes, and it's also family. Yes, And

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<v Speaker 5>it is a card that is essentially like Snap Benefits

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<v Speaker 5>but for migrant community members. Why there were thousands of

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<v Speaker 5>meals being thrown away every day because folks are like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want this nasty food, like I want something else.

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<v Speaker 5>So these cards can be used at the local bodega

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<v Speaker 5>and grocery store so that they can cook the things

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<v Speaker 5>that they actually want to eat. Now, folks looking at

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<v Speaker 5>this can say, well, what about us? We actually have

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<v Speaker 5>SNAP Benefits for low income under resource families all throughout

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<v Speaker 5>the country through federal programming. But this particular program also

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<v Speaker 5>works with a black owned business that I can't remember

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<v Speaker 5>the name of right now, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 5>play Eric Adams sound in response to this.

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<v Speaker 2>I responding to fifty fifty cent, Oh yeah, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's hear that.

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<v Speaker 9>This was a small policy shift that we're doing on

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<v Speaker 9>a pilot project with five hundred people. If this is successful,

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<v Speaker 9>we're going to expand it even more so that we

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<v Speaker 9>can bring down we got to bring down the course

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<v Speaker 9>twenty percent. We want to bring down a course, and

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<v Speaker 9>their team are doing their job.

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<v Speaker 4>So I told.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty to hit me up.

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<v Speaker 9>I would love to explain it to him so that

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<v Speaker 9>he can go out and do another tweet of saying,

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<v Speaker 9>you know what, Eric is just a smart manager, and

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<v Speaker 9>now we understand why he was elected by the people

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<v Speaker 9>of this city of New York.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. Wow, so asked Ari Melburn Tips former colleague,

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<v Speaker 5>my former corleague as well, to explain what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>He's become a rapper whisper. But also we.

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<v Speaker 5>Think that we can we can give you a run

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<v Speaker 5>for your money on that, Ari, And so to this end,

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<v Speaker 5>we hope that now it is clearer to fifty cent

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<v Speaker 5>you know what is going on, not just to him,

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<v Speaker 5>but he was bold enough to ask the question. A

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people with these questions all over the country

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<v Speaker 5>about where is mine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I think that's kind of the thing Andrew right, Like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I I do look at our comments, even the comments

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<v Speaker 1>left on Native lamppod on one, thank you everybody for

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<v Speaker 1>following Native Lampod on all of your platforms at Native Lampod.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of those comments are actually to meet

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<v Speaker 1>anti immigrant. So I think there are two conversations. One

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<v Speaker 1>is what about us, which I think is always Angela's point,

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<v Speaker 1>because Angela, you know, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were quick to say, hey, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>These are people who are also suffering, who are saying

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, it looks like some people are leapfrogging

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<v Speaker 1>over us, and we need our resources too. Then there's

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<v Speaker 1>another bucket of people who are saying, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>these people here. They are replacing the black population. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna outnumber us, you know, by a certain year, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the minorities. And they already the Latino

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<v Speaker 1>population already eclipses the black population in terms of eligible voters,

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<v Speaker 1>not registered voters, but eligible voters. And there are people

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<v Speaker 1>who feel a way about that. That to me is

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<v Speaker 1>anti immigrant. And that is also very similar to what

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<v Speaker 1>certain pockets of the white population feel about people of

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<v Speaker 1>color becoming the dominant population in twenty forty four. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to hear us talk like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I think, so real quick on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Adams did mention in his response that this is cheaper.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, we have a goal of the twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to cut the budget on this about twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is cheaper than what they are spending right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Here in America, we don't tend to just let people

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<v Speaker 3>languish on the street hungry without having some shelter available

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<v Speaker 3>for them to get food. If there isn't permanent overnight

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<v Speaker 3>housing for folks of.

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<v Speaker 5>It, they can't because actually mayors, as you know, would

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<v Speaker 5>be liable for it.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to have a solution.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, every well the community would demand one. They'd say,

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<v Speaker 3>we're tied of these folks laying out on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, they're saying, you're putting these people in our neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>you're closing down.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is an expectation that we will tend to

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<v Speaker 3>the problem one way or another. And what Mayor Adams

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<v Speaker 3>is saying, he didn't have the luxury of being a

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<v Speaker 3>derelict on this. These are issues that are confronting his city,

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<v Speaker 3>his community, his constituents, and he wants to address somebody

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do it, and frankly, a more cost effective

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<v Speaker 3>and cost efficient way. That's what they are piloting. And

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<v Speaker 3>the way I used to think about it when I

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<v Speaker 3>was a mayor was you're gonna pay one way or another.

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<v Speaker 3>You can pay the smart way in advance, so you

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<v Speaker 3>can wait and take it up on the back end.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you're dealing with incarceration rates, and you're dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with arrests, and you're dealing with police dividing their time

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<v Speaker 3>between dealing with homeless folks versus real crimes that are

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<v Speaker 3>taking place in communities. So these are the kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>decisions that are being made, and we should not pretend

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<v Speaker 3>that some portion of money wouldn't be going this way anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>He's only trying to say, let's do it, and let's

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<v Speaker 3>do it in a cost efficient and effective way that

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<v Speaker 3>also happens to feed people that.

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<v Speaker 5>Also use a black owned business. And to this point,

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<v Speaker 5>you were brought up in ti immigrant sentiment. If we

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<v Speaker 5>did get a question about the border, there's a contingency

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<v Speaker 5>that's still saying build that wall, Like, meanwhile, what wall,

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<v Speaker 5>Let's roll that question.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, family.

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<v Speaker 10>This is big cousin Will Almighty from Saint Louis, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 10>and my question is with all the talk of the border,

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<v Speaker 10>securing the border, closing the border, border, remain me open.

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<v Speaker 10>Why is it America? Don't solve the real problem, the

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<v Speaker 10>reason people are running and escaping their lands to come

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<v Speaker 10>to America. I believe that will solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay? Can I just birthday?

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<v Speaker 11>I love this, big cousin, Will, Almighty school day.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to I want to know what side

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<v Speaker 3>of you are. You don't get to decide.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I gotta be doing color complex. We're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to bring the black and brown community together here, you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to separate this.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 4>High five you too?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wow, Wow, anyway, wow, big cousin Will. I love

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<v Speaker 1>this question because we kind of got into this last

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<v Speaker 1>week because a lot of these policies come from the

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<v Speaker 1>United States meddling in Central America. But you worked on

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<v Speaker 1>the hill, so I really want to hear your perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I know we were going along.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is my very brief synapsis synopsis. What I

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<v Speaker 5>would tell you is that right now, just like we

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<v Speaker 5>talked about last week, Joe Biden has introduced a set

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<v Speaker 5>of border principles, told the the gop led Republican a

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<v Speaker 5>House to get a bill to him. The Senate is

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<v Speaker 5>agreed on set bill, then the Republican said, actually, we

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<v Speaker 5>just want to vote on standalone aid for Israel and

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<v Speaker 5>what have you. Meanwhile, there's still no solve for this.

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<v Speaker 5>So yes, there a border bill needs to be done. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>we need a more humane immigration system. Yes, we need

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<v Speaker 5>to ensure that the immigration system accounts for Dreamers. This

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<v Speaker 5>bill right now doesn't even account for Dreamers.

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<v Speaker 4>That folks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, those are folks who were born here to parents

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<v Speaker 5>who were undocumented, but they're treated like they're not citizens.

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<v Speaker 5>We have to find our humanity in this process. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not saying that black folks should bear the brunt of that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying that when you get mad at a migrant

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<v Speaker 5>family trying to figure out how to make ends meet,

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<v Speaker 5>trying to escape, as this man just said, big will

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<v Speaker 5>on my teeth.

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<v Speaker 4>Becausin will by the ways, yeah, as he just said,

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<v Speaker 4>like they're escaping something.

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<v Speaker 5>And sometimes, as you said last week, those conditions are

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<v Speaker 5>those that we created for those neighboring countries.

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<v Speaker 3>I just say what I said a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 3>ago on this, which is we keep fighting the wrong enemy.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that people are upset when they see new

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<v Speaker 3>communities arrive in their communities and seemingly or in practicality

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<v Speaker 3>or reality to take jobs that might otherwise be available

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<v Speaker 3>to them. But we've still got job shortages all across

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<v Speaker 3>the country and jobs that Americans currently are not willing

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<v Speaker 3>to fill. They're thus creating the need for a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more folks to come in. But the point being, the

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<v Speaker 3>economic policies domestically and internationally of this country, but of

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<v Speaker 3>the world, is largely what is driving what is happening

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<v Speaker 3>around immigration policies. If we were truly trying to solve

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<v Speaker 3>the problem, you would go after the employers who are

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<v Speaker 3>employing folks who are undocumented and then paying them off

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<v Speaker 3>the role, off the script.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they benefit from that benefit from it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was saying, we don't talk about that, but that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Where that's where the line of division is. Folks, don't

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<v Speaker 3>let us squabble amongst all of us who are just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to live, survive, and maybe one day thrive. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a fight between that have everything right versus folks

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<v Speaker 3>who are just trying to make a life in a

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<v Speaker 3>living for themselves. So much of this is misplaced, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're allowed to do that because that's exactly how this

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<v Speaker 3>debate is supposed to go. That's how it's gone for

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<v Speaker 3>all of time in this country, which is you've put

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<v Speaker 3>people who are all in need against one another while

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<v Speaker 3>the folks who have it all are sitting there watching

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<v Speaker 3>the drama play out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you've coined it perfectly. I know we're running along.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get one more question, and if

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<v Speaker 1>we can, we want to make sure you guys feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're part of the conversation and we'd love getting

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<v Speaker 1>all your viewer questions, so please be sure to keep

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<v Speaker 1>submitting your viewer questions. We will always take time on

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lampod to answer them. But I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>get one more question in on this if we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Native Pod.

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<v Speaker 12>My name is Selene. I'm a Bronx girl in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 12>I have a question I was wondering. I know Angela

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<v Speaker 12>had mentioned about, you know, steps being made for a

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<v Speaker 12>comprehensive black agenda, and I wonder what does that look

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<v Speaker 12>like in practice. I have friends from all over the world,

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<v Speaker 12>and I am clear that the interests of some Black

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<v Speaker 12>Americans and the interests of some people who identify as

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<v Speaker 12>black but come from across the diaspora. I feel like

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<v Speaker 12>we have a different vested interest in this country. I

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<v Speaker 12>feel like Black Americans have allowed all other immigrants to

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<v Speaker 12>enter to start their journey in our country as human

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<v Speaker 12>That was the price we paid, you know, in blood,

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<v Speaker 12>sweat and tears. But I feel like some of that

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<v Speaker 12>gets yeah, Okay, it's done. Has that sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that question, Charlene. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, welcome home to your poots were in

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<v Speaker 1>the background.

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<v Speaker 2>He has some they too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that question exactly, and I'll kick that to

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<v Speaker 1>you because this this speaks directly to our girl, Alicia Garza,

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<v Speaker 1>who's one of the three founders of Black Lives Matter,

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<v Speaker 1>who runs Futures Pack, who did do a comprehensive black

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<v Speaker 1>agenda that we try to lift up as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Black Futures Lab, Black Futures.

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<v Speaker 5>Lab, and you're calling back to the future action fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you and love you.

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<v Speaker 4>She announced she just got a new job the public.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we talk about this, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Alicia Garza is now at j m B.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, we're gonna have to figure that out. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that she got a new job.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all don't know the job you just.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about, I got.

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>Go where she her whole focus will be on building

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<v Speaker 1>better infrastructure and funneling funds to grassroots organizations.

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<v Speaker 3>Thunder A thunder appreciate.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, But Charlene's question, I think is a legitimate one.

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<v Speaker 2>What do y'all have on that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, she's right, she said, black folks have been

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, she didn't use the word eager, but

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<v Speaker 3>have welcomed communities who have immigrated into this country seamlessly

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<v Speaker 3>and have treated them as human and humane from jomp

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<v Speaker 3>And she's right about that. And the sacrifice in service

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<v Speaker 3>that black folks have made to this country, she basically said,

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<v Speaker 3>is baked into the pie. Folks are like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that happened, but it was a long time ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's right to acknowledge that, Yeah it happened. But the legacy, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's tentacles live on today. Our willingness to hold up

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<v Speaker 3>the country, to hold it accountable to its truth. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't ever seem to disappear. What surprises you, Tiffany about

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<v Speaker 3>comments from black folks sounding anti immigrant is that's not

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<v Speaker 3>how we sound. That isn't who we have been, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's who we are. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's who we are, to be truthful about it. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the penetration of other people's conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, thank you, depending on who.

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<v Speaker 3>We are and trying to reshape our character, are our

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<v Speaker 3>morals who we are as a people.

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<v Speaker 2>Weaponizing communities of color or.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, and it's to their benefit and not ours. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going down that road. But I appreciated the

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<v Speaker 3>depth of what was in that question and I completely relate.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to switch gears a little bit to the

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<v Speaker 5>portion of her conversation that talks about a black agenda.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a recent report from the Mackenzie Institute for

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<v Speaker 5>Black Economic Mobility, the state of Black Residents, the relevance

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<v Speaker 5>of place to racial equity and outcomes. And in this report,

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<v Speaker 5>what I think is the most fascinating thing is that

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<v Speaker 5>there is a solution, and that's why.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm bringing it up around a Black agenda.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a solution for a one point seven trillion to

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<v Speaker 5>a two point four trillion dollar affordable housing plan over

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<v Speaker 5>two decades that would help close a racial wealth gap,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly around housing and access to housing. That if we

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<v Speaker 5>do not implement this one point seven to two point

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<v Speaker 5>four trillion dollar plan, it will take us more than

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<v Speaker 5>three hundred and twenty years to close that gaps. And

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<v Speaker 5>we've already been here doing that. And I think that

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<v Speaker 5>that's the first flag. I think that if we are

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<v Speaker 5>not very clear that it is only going to be economics,

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<v Speaker 5>it's only going to be dollars and cents that fix

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<v Speaker 5>the very significant problems that we have in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>We just got to do it. So a few things

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<v Speaker 5>from this report. They talk about an urban periphery, which

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<v Speaker 5>is essentially the suburbs. Black outcome scores are just sixty

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<v Speaker 5>four percent of white outcome scores, so there's still a

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<v Speaker 5>significant gap there.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does that mean, like in wealth specifically.

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<v Speaker 5>Around housing, Like it's housing, it is safety, it is

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<v Speaker 5>access to food, all of these things. They have a

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<v Speaker 5>like a whole little table, a handy dandy chart that

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<v Speaker 5>I make sure that y'all get to see. But it

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<v Speaker 5>talks about everything from the standard of living, the job

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<v Speaker 5>like well being, livelihood.

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<v Speaker 4>In these communities. What that looks like.

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<v Speaker 5>So sixty four percent to white folks, there's it says

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<v Speaker 5>that less than zero point one percent of the black

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<v Speaker 5>population lives in a county close to parody point one percent.

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<v Speaker 5>So these numbers are astounding. There are things that we

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<v Speaker 5>almost get heartened to them. When when we were talking

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<v Speaker 5>about this as we planned for the podcast, one of

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<v Speaker 5>the things that Tiff said to me that struck me

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<v Speaker 5>but it's so true, is Okay, we're used to this, though, like,

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<v Speaker 5>what's the what's the new data here?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the point? Because we know we're behind.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I like about this is they also gave

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<v Speaker 5>a plan for what would close those gaps. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that there are things that the Hill needs to

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<v Speaker 5>be considering. Mike Johnson can't do nothing else, maybe you

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<v Speaker 5>can figure out a reparation plan for black.

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<v Speaker 2>Republican speaker at a house. By the way, we'll see how.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold up breath. That the truth is is that the

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<v Speaker 3>the the agenda to solve some of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>have always been present. We always know what they are

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<v Speaker 3>because they're the same agenda that solves these problems for

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<v Speaker 3>white folks, which is why they don't exist largely problem

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<v Speaker 3>in white communities. Absolutely. And by the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a shout out to the book The Some of Us,

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<v Speaker 3>which Heavin McGee uh wrote, But she talks about all

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<v Speaker 3>of these ideas, whether it be a free uh education,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it is the g I Bill of Rights. All

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<v Speaker 3>of those initiatives as they came along were widely popular

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<v Speaker 3>with what constituency, the overwhelming majority of white folks in

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<v Speaker 3>the majority. Where did it change? It changed after the

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<v Speaker 3>Civil Rights Act when those same programs would be allowed

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<v Speaker 3>and extended to black folks as well. That is when

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<v Speaker 3>we began to lose the majority of support in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>It is gover green, gun rights, evergreen, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is also the reason why these disparities are existing in

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<v Speaker 3>the way that they are. If the government did nothing else,

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<v Speaker 3>just making sure that home ownership was more accessible to

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<v Speaker 3>more of us would be would be a great step

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<v Speaker 3>in the right direction, because for most people who own homes,

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<v Speaker 3>it is your one beautiful apple of security. You can

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<v Speaker 3>borrow against it and then pay yourself back and not

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 3>pay taxes on it. You can use it as leverage.

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<v Speaker 3>Should your household run into a crisis and you need

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<v Speaker 3>something as an emergency, you can lose that as collateral.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're starting a business. The abilities that you get

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<v Speaker 3>through home ownership are manifold in this society, and it

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't confuse any of us why it is that so

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<v Speaker 3>many black folks don't have that same opportunity and access.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a point of clarification, because I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>I said it.

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<v Speaker 5>This report isn't just dealing with home ownership though, it's

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<v Speaker 5>affordable housing period like even rent.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even rent is talking about that disparity. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of those protections during COVID that had

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<v Speaker 1>a moratory on on evictions and foreclosures have since expired.

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<v Speaker 2>So housing security in our community has gotten even.

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<v Speaker 1>Worse as the rise of inflation, which is not specific

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<v Speaker 1>to any political party, and crime increase, all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have questions about this because I do wonder

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<v Speaker 1>is home ownership the only path to wealth?

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<v Speaker 3>It is not. I was just trying to give some

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<v Speaker 3>of the example.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I got it of what you get through

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<v Speaker 2>that on.

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<v Speaker 3>The on the rental piece. So almost every state has

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<v Speaker 3>affordable housing trust funds, and almost every one of them

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<v Speaker 3>don't live up to the guarantee of those affordable housing trusts.

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<v Speaker 3>In Florida, we have it. It is baking with money

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<v Speaker 3>that the Republican legislature borrows against to pay for its

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<v Speaker 3>other priorities. It's flush, but they won't build a housing

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<v Speaker 3>that the money is intended to be built. And that

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<v Speaker 3>is a true statement for state after eight after state,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't get more secure for most people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you have to look at these state legislators.

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<v Speaker 1>Who runs the state legislator and know the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>that and the federal government, and then you'll start to

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<v Speaker 1>see where some of these democratic policies do benefit you,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe your state legislature doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, Michael Harriet live building.

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<v Speaker 1>We so we are literally live recording our podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were told that Michael Harriet, New York Times best

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<v Speaker 1>selling author of Black af History was in the building

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<v Speaker 1>recording breakfast Club, and so we were like, oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>should come by and while we're recording our podcast, Michael Harriet,

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>What's going Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Our favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm crashing like my podcast. I don't even have guests either,

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<v Speaker 13>So roll through.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the benefit of being in person.

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<v Speaker 13>Welcome y'all. Just blowing up the internet right now, y'all

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<v Speaker 13>like four episodes in and everybody like talking about this

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<v Speaker 13>new podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we need to know? What is our community?

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<v Speaker 3>To know we're at the top of Black History Month.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you leave?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for Black History Month, I give us a black

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<v Speaker 2>bet Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh that again one of my people who listen to me. No,

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<v Speaker 13>I believe South Carolina is the capital of Black America.

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<v Speaker 13>Everything that you know about black people and think about

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 13>black people, and think about black people in America came

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<v Speaker 13>through South Carolina first from the Montgomery Boys Bus boycott

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<v Speaker 13>wouldn't exist without South Carolina. The laws against governing the

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<v Speaker 13>enslaved were formatted for all of the states because of

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<v Speaker 13>a rebellion in South Carolina. So it all everything datespected

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<v Speaker 13>except what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Almost what seventy percent of us can trace.

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<v Speaker 2>Our Yeah the largest largest Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>Right, Like everybody came through South Carolina. All your relatives,

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<v Speaker 13>ancestors came through South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I knew, I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>We could just see Michael say, give us a black

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<v Speaker 1>history head, be like, here's a black.

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<v Speaker 4>A F history the book. Yet I'm Michael Harriet Black

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<v Speaker 4>a F History. The book is.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, amazing, It's soondents to read, like I read a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit every day. It's so I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>finish it. For people, it really does like carry you

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<v Speaker 1>through history in a different way. And the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>about it, Michael, you were not Your mind was not

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<v Speaker 1>co opted by a school system that taught you a

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>different history. So when you hear this stuff, you're like, what,

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. This fantasy of America y'all think exists,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the real history of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna give away the books, so I read it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you talk about cannibalism and how this country was founded.

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<v Speaker 2>Read the book. That's all I'm gonna say. That is

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<v Speaker 2>you came.

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<v Speaker 14>Back, so you don't have to go home, but MI

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<v Speaker 14>go Harriet, everybody, thank.

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<v Speaker 4>You, Michael, Harriet.

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<v Speaker 1>This next bill that we want to tell you guys about,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a bill out of Georgia that is run

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<v Speaker 1>by a Republican state legislature and this new this is

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<v Speaker 1>a new system that could potentially make it difficult for

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<v Speaker 1>people of low income to get bail. You guys, i'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure have heard all about the challenges around bill reform.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to get into that because we think

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<v Speaker 1>that's important. But before we do, we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know what's actually in the bill. So take a listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this and we will get more into it. On

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, SB.

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<v Speaker 15>Sixty three was a harmful bill that was going to,

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<v Speaker 15>as you said, include at least thirty offenses where judges

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<v Speaker 15>would be required to set bail, and then at the

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<v Speaker 15>last minute it included severe restrictions on charitable bail payments.

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 15>It tops charitable bail payments at three per year for individuals, corporations, nonprofits, churches,

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<v Speaker 15>as well as charitable bail organizations like US and so

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<v Speaker 15>at a time when the justice system is overburdened jails

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 15>are overcrowded, to not only ensure that more people will

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<v Speaker 15>be subjected to bail and likely unaffordable cash bail, to

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<v Speaker 15>also take away the lifeline that charitable bail funds and

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<v Speaker 15>other charitable bail payments offer to lowcome individuals is particularly

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<v Speaker 15>concerning for Georgians across the state. As I said before,

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<v Speaker 15>there's a two tiered system of justice in any cash

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 15>bail system, and that's a system where people with money

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 15>can be released and people without money can't. And so

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<v Speaker 15>it has nothing to do with public safety ultimately. Right

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<v Speaker 15>if you and I are arrested and charged with the

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 15>same crime, but I have the money in my bank

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 15>account to get out and you don't. That's what's going

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<v Speaker 15>to determine pre trial liberty, not.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether or not you or I pose a risk to

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<v Speaker 4>the public.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So this bail bill, I have to say discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to frame this for our viewers and our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty percent of people in jail right now have not

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>been convicted of a crime. Yes, unbelievable, unbelievable. More than

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 1>ninety five percent of crime is not violent. And for

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<v Speaker 1>the number of incarcerated people for pre trial cash bill

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:24.280
<v Speaker 1>has increased four hundred and thirty three percent from nineteen

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>seventy nineteen seventy to twenty fifteen. And that Khalif Browder,

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>who we all sadly tragically know, took his life after

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>this child, this teenager was put in rikers with adult prisoners,

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and he talked about his harrowing journey there, not knowing

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 1>when violence was going to attack. When they see us

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Ava du Verney's brilliant piece of work that was on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to do something because this disproportionately impacts the

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<v Speaker 1>black community.

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Everybody but the black community.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the thing. They did do something.

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<v Speaker 5>Atlanta in twenty eighteen ban cash bill requirements and Georgia

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<v Speaker 5>is basically saying, like we know that this was a

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<v Speaker 5>bipartisan solution under Governor Nathan Dial, we see some of

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 5>the progress, We're gonna reject all of that and go

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 5>backwards just to penalize the entities like Color of Change,

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 5>for example, our good our good brother Rashad Robinson runs

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 5>Color of Change, and they've engaged in programs to help

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 5>get people out for holidays, for Mother's Day, for Father's Day.

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 5>This bill is now on its way to Brian Kemp's desk,

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<v Speaker 5>and I want to challenge him. There are members of

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<v Speaker 5>our community you've said that he's a good guy. I

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 5>haven't seen it on voter suppression. I want to see

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<v Speaker 5>what he does as it relates to to Bell reform.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying that that has been the talking point.

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<v Speaker 5>So all you brothers and sisters and family members.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Are you brothers who has ab a good guy?

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 5>Brothers and sisters and siblings who say that you know

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 5>this is someone who is a decent man.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 4>I want to see if he's decent when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to ball reform.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of this is it doesn't make sense other I mean,

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.280
<v Speaker 3>the reason why put it back into its proper category

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 3>which is economic. Let's not forget right where where the

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 3>bottom line is. Always follow the money, who gets advanced

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 3>by this economically, who gets depressed hurt by it economically?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we'll find, you know where the interest

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<v Speaker 3>in this whole thing lie. But but for the taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're just talking to the person who has to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for this system, it doesn't make sense for us

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 3>to have to pay to incarcerate, for taxpayers to have

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 3>to pay to incarcerate people who are nonviolent, who are

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 3>there on nonviolent offenses waiting for a court date or

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<v Speaker 3>a trial to be set. Thank god, in my case

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<v Speaker 3>when I had an indictment, I didn't have to serve

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 3>any you know, to go directly out and there was

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<v Speaker 3>no bail set and my situation, because there was, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a non violent accusation, thankfully proven not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, can I just say really quickly right there, please

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>stick around to the end of the podcast because you

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>were going to get talk about that. Yeah, I'll the

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>trial and what what he goes to it is a

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this testimony Andrew was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So what with us, and I hope fewer to nobody

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 3>else has to experience those kinds of things. But in

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 3>this situation, you've got people there who as who are

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<v Speaker 3>as innocent as I am, as you are, as any

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 3>of the three of us or any of our listeners

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 3>may be, who are sitting inside four walls experiencing all

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 3>the consequences that come from that. And eventually we may

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 3>determine whether or not they deserve to be there. But

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 3>nobody's gonna pay them recompense they don't get, you know,

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 3>no one's gonna pay their attorneys bills. They get nothing.

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Lots of devastated and the taxpayer has been on the

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 3>hook for it. We've been paying out a pocket for it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just public policy wise, economically for us the taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just as egregious as you can't get people water

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<v Speaker 5>at the polls. There's a thing with Georgia, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>this is as egregious this is. You all are trying

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<v Speaker 5>to peek lize folks who are trying to stand in

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<v Speaker 5>the gap for the least of these.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, this is a battle of the haves and the

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<v Speaker 4>have nots.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta choose your side, and black folks, I would

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 5>challenge you, you don't have the ability to stand on

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 5>the side of the halves because everybody else in your

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:14.439
<v Speaker 5>families that have none.

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 4>Right, how about that?

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>That is such a good point.

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Like when we even as an individual in the family,

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>when you make it, you don't make it with a

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>trust fund. You make it with a payroll because you

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>got to reach back. Because you know, little Jeff, Jeff

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>want to go to proms, so he ain't got money

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>for a rental car.

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's ask cousin tiv Let's ask cousin Angela. Let's ask

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>uncle Andrew.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so we are all in the forty five

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 5>percent tax bracket. We give our check to the government

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 5>and middle aged I would like to have a reparations

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:39.240
<v Speaker 5>text speaking of black I.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree with that. Can I guess say really quickly before

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>we get off this topic. I'm so happy that you

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>brought up the point about people calling Governor Brian Kemp

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a good guy. Please look into this man's background. He

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>is the face of voter suppression. And so when you

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.479
<v Speaker 1>lend your platform rappers, I'm not even gonna name no names.

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>When you lend your platform to these people and stand

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>on a stage with them, you essentially are endorsing what

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>they're doing that might not be your owen, but they

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>will use your likeness, your image, and they will say,

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>look at it, I got this one about this one

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>standing with me. And if you're showing up and not

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>challenging them on like these kind of policies, it's a

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>big deal. Bell reform is an issue all across the country.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I because we were talking about bear reforming, you shout

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.720
<v Speaker 1>out a rapper. I'm not going to go without naming

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>killing Mike who is but he's a brother to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say something that you might not like him.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 5>To have this the win that he had this week

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<v Speaker 5>at the Grammys, congrats to sweep in his categories and

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 5>to be arrested yes agree or an assault that did

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.439
<v Speaker 5>not occur. I think that he can now stand right

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 5>in the center of this as an advocate for what

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 5>we're talking about, based on the policy recommendations that he

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 5>has himself, based on how much he stands ten toes

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 5>down for our community. I know that we'll be able

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 5>to count on Mike to tell Governor Kemp to do

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 5>the right thing. And I and I also just want

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 5>to acknowledge his son was on the list forgetting I

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 5>believe a kidney transplant and they were able to go

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 5>for with that, so best to.

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>And we can.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 5>We can politically disagree with these people, but I don't

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 5>think he disagrees on this, Oh no, But I just

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 5>mean with him.

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I've had political disagree with him, our sister Joy we

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>did the show with him before we had disagreements.

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>But my point is he's still our brother. I don't

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>know he's still brother.

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>We can disagree as family loves out in the world

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>we are united, but when we have family talk welcome home, y'all,

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we might disagree. So definitely, congrats on the Grammys. Definitely

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.720
<v Speaker 1>completely disrespected at the Grammys, being arrested for an assault

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>right after he won those things.

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 5>But I do think I hope that that reminds him,

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:39.760
<v Speaker 5>not that he needed that reminder because of his friends,

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 5>friends in his community to challenge Governor Kimny.

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:44.879
<v Speaker 4>He has him on speed out.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Not just all of us have an experience that is

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 3>extremely true in our community, which is we can be

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 3>a ten yeah off of our merit and what we've

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 3>earned and the hard work we put in. And when

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 3>they decide to come for you, yea, they decide, not

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 3>you decide to aggress, they come for you. Yeah, and

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:07.399
<v Speaker 3>they mean to take you out.

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really sad to see.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>So just pay attention to these policies, guys. You know,

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, you know the First Step Act, the federal

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 1>policy that tried to check a very punishing criminal justice

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>system for our community. It's called the First Step Act

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>because there needs to be a second Act and a

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>third Act and the fourth Act. So we'll definitely be

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about that. I know, police brutality is something that's

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>really close to all of us, but Angela, you've been

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>wanting to talk about that for a while, So next

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>week I think we should probably get into that.

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 2>That would be a good conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we're gonna take a really quick commercial break,

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<v Speaker 1>but come back with us because on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of this break, we're going to talk about the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll leave you with this teasing question. Did you guys

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>know that Travis Kelsey invented the fade? Yeah, exactly, I've

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>been rock exactly. All right, y'all, don't go anywhere. We'll

0:44:53.520 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>be right back after this break. All right, Welcome back, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>If you follow me for a while, you know I

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>am an expert when it comes to all things Sports,

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And so we are going to talk about the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I know the.

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Audience knows who's playing in the Super Bowl. But for

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>those people who embarrassingly have no idea who are the.

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Teams playing in the Super Bowl? Tell us, well, I

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 2>don't want to hog the bikes show.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be that Micael.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be the Kansas City Chiefs and the San

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 5>Francisco forty nine ers and just some people who don't know, embarrassingly,

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 5>which team does Travis Kelcey play for?

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Damn you don't know that.

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 2>She wants you to chance, right, I'm trying to give you.

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna let you guess. You got a fifty to

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 4>fifty shot.

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I will say he doesn't play for Kansas City because.

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, well who does Mahomes play for Kansas City?

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>So Travis Kelcey and Mahomes are the same.

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 5>You know how many people, well our residents sports expert

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:03.359
<v Speaker 5>is checked out for the day.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Ladies and did not know they were on the same team.

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Well, here's here's who we do know is on the team.

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Taylor Swift. Let me talk about that.

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so Travis Invade and Taylor Taylor.

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 3>Brother.

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes he is he didn't.

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 5>It's so nice of you to use brothers did faith.

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 5>Let's rote that Travis Chelsea sound where he defends himself

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 5>to tips slander slanderss.

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<v Speaker 4>It's absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 16>And to do it, and to do it on February first,

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 16>to throw me to the walls like that, that was

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 16>messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. I don't want anything to do with that one.

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:41.280
<v Speaker 12>Man.

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<v Speaker 9>I got a good fade if you need it, though.

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 3>It's a two on top of a nice hide.

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<v Speaker 16>The men fame the taper in the back, but I

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 16>didn't invent that, I just asked for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love his awareness.

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I like that, that awareness from from brother right. No,

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 5>he's in the back national from the black women. He

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:00.760
<v Speaker 5>kicked the way you met Taylor.

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<v Speaker 4>Awareness.

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<v Speaker 3>But the number two, the number two, The number two is.

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I do, But why don't you tell them.

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 4>You can get waves waves?

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 3>He's the number two. So it's not totally off the head,

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:19.399
<v Speaker 3>but it ain't totally on it either.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 5>All I know is he said, y'all did not try

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 5>to drag me this here. Black History shout out to him,

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 5>very clear about this. But yeah, I think what's so

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 5>fascinating about Travis Kelsey is I ain't paying no attention

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 5>to him before this Taylor Swift stuff came out, and.

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 4>Now I'm not the only one paying attention.

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 5>They're talking about how the ratings have significantly increased with

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 5>demos who are our Taylor Swift fans. And also Kansas

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 5>City had higher viewership ratings of the Grammys. So yeah,

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 5>there's actually some there's some reciproiity.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Theah okay, My.

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Beef with all of this is because the media has

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 1>taken this and said Travis Kelsey. Everybody talking about Travis

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Kelsey's haircut, as though black folks wasn't rocking his haircut

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties.

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 4>They said, can we have the Travis Kelsey?

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Even before that, but that's when I remember the phase,

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 5>and then the swags are when they were like, oh,

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 5>let's talk about this Taylor Swift swag surf dance, trying

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:20.760
<v Speaker 5>to get us at Swags.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 4>I loved you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just have to say, it's a worse indictment of

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 3>the people asking the question.

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 4>That he speaking.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Can we yes, can we talk about this the other

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>thing on the media. So Jim Trotter shout out to you.

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>He has always held the line and listen when you

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>are the only we know. It can be challenging the

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 1>whole the line, so shout out to people who hold

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the line anyway. Jim Trotter held the line a few

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 1>years ago in the press conference with Rogers.

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Last year, answered asking it everything I think it was?

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 6>Was it?

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

0:48:55.480 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 5>I thought he got okay, maybe dismissed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, Jim.

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Trotter, shout out to you. But I do also want

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to shout out that he set a legacy because this

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>year Darren Smith, our host of a radio show at

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>k l KC radio station, in Trotter's absence, pose this question.

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Take a listen.

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.439
<v Speaker 16>So look, I know I'm out of Kansas City. I've

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 16>had dreams of maybe you're working for the NFL network

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 16>one day. But I'm sorry, but I said, I'm out

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 16>of Kansas City. So I've had dreams that work for

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 16>the NFL network one day. But be that as it may.

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 16>I know that you don't run the NFL media newsroom,

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 16>but you do run the NFL, and they answer to

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.760
<v Speaker 16>you along with the ticket two owners. After this press conference,

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 16>the NFL Media newsroom still employees zero black managers, zero

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 16>black copy editors, zero full time black employees. On the

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 16>news desk, and you're only full time black employee. Larry

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 16>Campbell passed away over the weekend. Now, mister Trotter, Jim

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.839
<v Speaker 16>Trotter is not here, you know, for whatever reason, over

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 16>the last years, have asked you why that is the

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 16>case and for leave that have with the sixty percent

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 16>African Americans have played to play the game. And I

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 16>know that you're a man of conscious. How does knowing

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 16>this sit well with you? You know? And after two years

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 16>of being asked this question, why has it not been

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 16>any change or any highers in that area?

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 6>Well, I disagree completely, there hasn't been any change. I'm

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 6>happy to get your data and share it with our

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 6>people and make sure that we get an answer for you.

0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 6>I don't have all the data. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 6>that the first time ever, fifty one percent of our

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<v Speaker 6>employees across the league, across the network, across all of

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 6>our media platforms, not including players, are either people of

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 6>color or women, first time ever. So progress is being made,

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.840
<v Speaker 6>and there are areas where we still need to work

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 6>and we need still need to improve, whether it's offensive

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 6>assistance or maybe people in our media news group. We

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 6>will continue to do that and make it significant progress

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 6>as we have.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Darren's men, my brother, we salute you

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the way he asked, I know if you're a man

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of conscious. Jim Trotter isn't here for whatever reason. We

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:08.400
<v Speaker 1>heard everything he said.

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 2>And everything he didn't.

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so shout out to him. But that is my

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>biggest issue, and honestly, I'm sorry. Roger Goodell's answer was

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of bullshit to me. I I wish that he

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>would have acknowledged. Listen, I know we do a horrible

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 1>job at this and I'm fighting every day. He's beholden

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to these billionaire owners, a lot of whom you know,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>donate to Republican causes and campaigns. So I have my

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 1>opinions about that. But it leads me to this question

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to you guys, should we be watching the NFL.

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm definitely gonna watch the super Bowl.

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It was hard because I'm a big NFL fan, as

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 5>I can tell I thinking Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 5>play for for a different team. But but I know

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:48.800
<v Speaker 5>you probably will watch. I'm a watch usher, But I

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.800
<v Speaker 5>think I think that this is the point. Roger Goodell

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 5>doesn't sound any different than most fortune one thousand CEOs.

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't sound any different than most medium sized businesses.

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:02.879
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't sound any different from folks who are cabinet secretaries.

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 5>And this Biden administration certainly doesn't sound any different from

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 5>Trump administration officials.

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 4>Why am I saying that this.

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 5>Isn't the We can't put all of white supremacy at

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 5>the foot feet of Roger Goodell, but we can certainly

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 5>put some of it. They have made some changes, but

0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 5>what they do Andrew and you said, this is the

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 5>conflation of black and women or black Asian, you know,

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Latino and women, Black Native American, Latino and Asian and women.

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 5>And there's always like if we can put everybody in

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 5>this same bucket, just like they did with the Permative

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Action policy, then somehow it'll look better. But you're denying

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 5>the fact that white women are most often married to

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 5>white men. So that means the very white supermacist culture

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.319
<v Speaker 5>that we're supposed to be trying to get rid of

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 5>is continuing to benefit, even from the programs that are

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 5>there to help us. So yes, there do need to

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.840
<v Speaker 5>be real answers here, and know this was not a

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 5>good one, and he should have been prepared because He's

0:52:57.600 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 5>been asked this for several years.

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<v Speaker 3>I also want to say, in the area of press media,

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 3>who is talking, who is speaking for you, speaking for

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 3>your players and movement, It matters to have diverse press

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 3>and communications rooms. Different people hear things differently and experience

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 3>life differently. One of my biggest frustrations when I ran

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 3>for governor was that the entirety of the press corps

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.479
<v Speaker 3>political press corps in our state was white and white

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 3>male majority. Right, So, if you're talking about my race,

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 3>my lived experience, what kind of policies we've accomplished that

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 3>make me ready for this office, and you're not willing

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 3>to get into the weeds and what my record was

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 3>or the experiences that I come from. You can't dare

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:42.760
<v Speaker 3>translate who I am to your reading public. You can't

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.279
<v Speaker 3>do it. You can try, but you're going to miss

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the mark almost every time. So his question was really specific.

0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Didn't answer the specificity of that question. He answered writ large,

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 3>and in answering writ large, you do what Angela has

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 3>already talked about, which as you pull in every number

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 3>that can potentially make you look better. Now let's delve deeper.

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 3>He says, sixty percent of your players are black.

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 4>I think it's close to seventy.

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, he said, I'm just going from what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Question, But I do you think the data is what?

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:14.320
<v Speaker 3>As I look that it may be so simply represent

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 3>us at the rate that we represent you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:19.360
<v Speaker 4>That's it. That's it, full stop.

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay in all these industries, yes, start first, you're

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 5>watching the NFL.

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm watching halftime.

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Because do y'all want to say, real quickly, what's what

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 2>y'all want to hear us?

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:29.760
<v Speaker 3>You perform so everything?

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 4>My favorite ib A group baby.

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Well he actually references our our group chat in one

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of his songs, what do you say? He says, I

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 1>keep a dollar worth of dimes.

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 13>Shout out.

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 3>A couple of on that one around here? You get

0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 3>a dime?

0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:58.399
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:07.360
<v Speaker 5>I am what I've ignored, Andrew Rude.

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I love, I love hearing from the viewers.

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So I if we have time, I know we got

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of your questions in off the top, but

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>how do we feel about taking a few more of

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>your questions?

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:19.319
<v Speaker 4>Okay, good, good, good? All right?

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Who we got?

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 17>What was good? Native Lampard, I'm Larry and I'm from Dallas.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 17>But I did want to know whether or not you

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 17>guys are going to talk about inside of trading. I mean,

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 17>tens of millions of dollars have been made obviously with

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:37.800
<v Speaker 17>public knowledge. You know, lawmakers outperform the stock market fifteen

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 17>percent a year on average. Maybe somebody wanted to bring

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 17>that up.

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Larry for that question. We love, We love

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>your love, brother, Thank you for weighing in. I want

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to kick this to Angelo because you just for those

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>who don't know, if you haven't followed Angela's career, she's

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 1>not just a beauty, but she was the executive director

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Congressional Black Caucus for some years, but also

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.720
<v Speaker 1>worked in a few offices before you had that position.

0:55:58.840 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>So what say you?

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would just take this from the political standpoint first,

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 5>It is definitely illegal for any member of Congress, any

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 5>elected official, to engage in insider trading, as it is

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 5>for everyone. But there are also ethics rules that require

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.879
<v Speaker 5>you to disclose stocks where you have investments, etc.

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 4>I believe in a couple of years back, there was yeah.

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 5>In New York Times, they had a report on the

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 5>ninety seven members of Congress who reported trading in committees

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 5>where these particular companies were a part of their jurisdiction.

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:37.759
<v Speaker 5>So I think it still is problematic. If I'm being

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 5>honest with Larry, I would say on a scale of

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 5>one to ten, this issue of importance to me is

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 5>about a point zero zero zero three, just because I have.

0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Other things that I'm concerned about right now.

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 5>But I do want to flag that it is an

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 5>issue that politicians have to be aware of and have

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 5>to disclose on their ethics reports every year.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe we should just know more about financial news too. Yeah,

0:56:57.320 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of black folks got took on that cryptocurrency

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:03.320
<v Speaker 1>market and know that it's changed, so we should this podcast,

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll talk more about that. Said, make it, make

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it a seven, make it well, do something for us

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to discuss, because I don't know anything about it. So

0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy that you were here to answer the question.

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:13.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, I think we have time for one more.

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 1>That was a quick answer, so Nick, give us another question.

0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 8>Hi, a Native Land podcast. My name is Chris Jones.

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 8>I have a question pertaining to the black vote. We

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 8>have many large cities with a large black population, such

0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 8>as Houston, Texas, Memphis, Tennessee, and Miami that are in

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 8>very conservative states. And my question is, why don't we

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 8>get our politicians to change to the popular vote, especially

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 8>in the presidential election instead of the electoral college. And

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 8>if we did that, I feel like our black vote

0:57:58.080 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 8>would actually count more.

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts, Well, I just want to make

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a quick I'm gonna kick to see you, Andrew. But

0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to term the black vote because we're

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:11.960
<v Speaker 1>not a homogeneous voting block, and we have to consider

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<v Speaker 1>that we are not always talking about federal policy, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to some of those ballot initiatives and

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>state and local politics, our votes can fracture. We don't

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 1>always feel the same way. So I think he's askeding

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<v Speaker 1>about black voters. What are you saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so sometimes those can be converged that our black

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<v Speaker 3>interest in our black votes or to go along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to thank you for the question, but in truth,

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<v Speaker 3>it will require constitutional amendment to change the way in

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<v Speaker 3>which our president is elected. It is not popular vote

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:47.960
<v Speaker 3>in forms the electoral college. The electoral college is then

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 3>supposed to represent the interests of the popular vote. However,

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump and what led to twenty the revolt by

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 3>he and his followers was in contradiction of how the

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 3>electoral college was supposed to initially initially initially work. All

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<v Speaker 3>that to say, it's going to be pretty hard to

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<v Speaker 3>change the constitution. So I have another suggestion, which is

0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 3>we can do another great migration. You all recall the

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Great Migration. My good friend doctor Kinnisher Grant wrote a

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 3>great book about the Great Migration. But when we fanned

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 3>out from the South and made our way further north

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 3>and further west, we lost a lot of density in

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 3>southern states, where a lot of the overrepresentation of the

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 3>electoral College towards the Republicans still exists. In fact, it thrives.

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<v Speaker 3>So if y'all could come on home, welcome home. I'm

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.800
<v Speaker 3>still in the South. Yeah, y'all want to come back

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 3>and join us, then there's a way in which to

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<v Speaker 3>impact the electoral college more holy and see whether or not.

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<v Speaker 3>If then Republicans or the majority get an appetite to

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<v Speaker 3>change the electoral.

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<v Speaker 4>College, we'll be back to accounting. And and the bars

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<v Speaker 4>is so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well there, Well Florida, I mean, they essentially

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<v Speaker 1>tried to reinstitute a poll attacks after amendment for a

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<v Speaker 1>past Grant was formally incarcerated people to write to vote

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<v Speaker 1>wells still still exists.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. So anyway, reverse migration. That's my solution.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a good point for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>state convention.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine if all of us moved to Jackson, Mississippi, the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican governor, their tate reeves would have some challenges there.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't exist, they would he wouldn't be were Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true.

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<v Speaker 18>A lot of the Alabama, Georgia, parts of Florida to

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<v Speaker 18>receive Yeah, uh uh, I mean you name it all

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<v Speaker 18>across the South where black folks have significant numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately they're not at parody. We're certainly not the majority,

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<v Speaker 3>and we don't show up that way electorally. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>I love his question because I think the last four

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<v Speaker 1>or five elections haven't been decided by the popular vote,

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<v Speaker 1>but the electoral.

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<v Speaker 3>College, and separate to the popular vote.

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<v Speaker 5>If there were democratic governors, there also wouldn't be these

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<v Speaker 5>migrant crises in the cities in the in the North

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<v Speaker 5>Earth either.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, just saying to because we wouldn't be shipping She's

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<v Speaker 1>saying that because Governor Abbott and Sanda has been shippings

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<v Speaker 1>off to what they call liberal cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, except, just to make the point clear, Florida didn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually get it to migrants from Florida. He went to Texas, recruited, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>migrants in Texas, put them on a plane, pay for

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<v Speaker 3>the plane, sent them to Martha's vineyard, political stunt with people.

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<v Speaker 4>So then nobody say, how come they put me on

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<v Speaker 4>a free plane?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, nobody, you didn't take people from Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take a really quick break because I

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<v Speaker 1>want you all to stick around on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Andrew, we are going to hear the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pre tape.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Andrew shared last week, but because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so dense, we we want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you hear his entire testimony. So don't go anywhere after.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this break, Andrew will talk about what happened

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<v Speaker 1>after Miami. His next harrowing challenged the trial.

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<v Speaker 3>I get a call and I'm at my home office

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<v Speaker 3>and the very week after this Sunday of Father's Day

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<v Speaker 3>where I try to be the model of a father

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<v Speaker 3>you can imagine in this period of time, and the

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<v Speaker 3>call comes through and it says, this is agent you

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<v Speaker 3>know such and such and I calling on behalf of

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<v Speaker 3>the FBI, or of government, federal government, and I need

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<v Speaker 3>to get with you because we got a what is

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<v Speaker 3>it called, a sealed grand jury indictment of you on

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<v Speaker 3>however man accounts, he says, and I'm not remembering all

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<v Speaker 3>this at the time, and we need to. We need to.

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<v Speaker 3>We just know where you are so you can surrender yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm in my house and I'm standing up because

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<v Speaker 3>my heart rate is gone up when I hear him

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<v Speaker 3>introduce himself, and so I'm pacing. And when he says,

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<v Speaker 3>I have this indictment and we need to I had

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<v Speaker 3>never experienced a breathless moment that I can recall, and

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<v Speaker 3>I remember not having oxygen, but because he was doing

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<v Speaker 3>the talk and I wasn't worried about him hearing me

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<v Speaker 3>lose my breath because I was determined that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>going to see me weak. So he says what he says,

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<v Speaker 3>and I say, okay, let me get in touch with

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<v Speaker 3>my attorney. But I'm at my house. My address. I

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<v Speaker 3>can give it to you if you let me know

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<v Speaker 3>when you're ready to write it down. I can surrender

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<v Speaker 3>myself right now. I just need to make sure everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be able to pick up my kids today, because

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<v Speaker 3>the kids and I need to call my mom so

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<v Speaker 3>she would be help arch it because she's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>overwhelmed to what I call to tell her this. But

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<v Speaker 3>with every strength that I have, I say, Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get it. And then he says, well, you don't need

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<v Speaker 3>to come come in. We just need to negotiate a

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<v Speaker 3>time and when you can do it. And da da

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<v Speaker 3>da dah. Because I've never had this happen before. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>if you get a thing and they say you gotta go,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, I'll put on some comfortable clothes and

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<v Speaker 3>i'll get down to the I don't know, jail house

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<v Speaker 3>or wherever. And he says, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>call your lawyer. He'll get in touch with us, and

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<v Speaker 3>so on and so forth. So he was so jubi

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<v Speaker 3>late to deliver that news to me, and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I confused it when I said, Okay, I'll come right

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<v Speaker 3>in as soon as I can get just want to

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<v Speaker 3>pick my kids up and I can I can get

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<v Speaker 3>somebody here to be here for my wife. And I

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<v Speaker 3>hang up and I make a call to my lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>They start doing whatever they do on their side, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I make the call to r J and I

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<v Speaker 3>say to Jay, first, Jay, try to stay calm. But

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<v Speaker 3>I just got a call from I think the FBI

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<v Speaker 3>or somebody saying that I have to surrender myself for

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<v Speaker 3>arrest for a federal crime, a grand jury, a sealed

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<v Speaker 3>grand jury indictment. And she says, what you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can imagine on the other end with what that

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<v Speaker 3>what that's like. And she immediately comes undone, which was

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<v Speaker 3>my worry. And I don't want her driving across town,

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<v Speaker 3>racing here to the house because her safety, her life,

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<v Speaker 3>was most important to me at the time. And she

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<v Speaker 3>makes her way home and we all this stuff begins

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<v Speaker 3>to unfold, and I'm really not at this point letting

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<v Speaker 3>any of it penetrate, except there are things that must

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<v Speaker 3>be put in place if I'm going to be away.

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<v Speaker 3>This needs to say. I start writing on all my accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>I start this is saying where money and retirement? And oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, such as I said, this document, but I

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure you have everything you need in case.

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<v Speaker 3>And they said, so we've arranged you're going to surrender

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow morning. I don't know eight o'clock nine o'clock, and

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<v Speaker 3>you'll go first to the FBI offices, surrender to them.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll take you into custody, take you to the courthouse

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<v Speaker 3>in their car, and at the courthouse they will surrender

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<v Speaker 3>you to the US Marshals or the court or something

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<v Speaker 3>some transition and pass off. Then you'll see the judge.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge will likely release you on your own recount.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a violent crime, but blue collar all this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff. So they're going through it, but just

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<v Speaker 3>be prepared. They may purp walk you. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what is that? And they described for me that's when

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<v Speaker 3>the cameras are already assembled and they've got you booked

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<v Speaker 3>and they walk you through them. And I just lose

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<v Speaker 3>it on that because I'm saying, well, why do we

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<v Speaker 3>have to do that is they're not a private way in.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do we have to, you know, do this walk thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And they said, well, this is how they beat their

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<v Speaker 3>chest and show off about what, you know, what they've done,

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<v Speaker 3>and get to have the images that they want. And

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<v Speaker 3>I am just you know, devastated by this. And at

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<v Speaker 3>this point I said, I need to I need to

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<v Speaker 3>tell my fami. I've ether tell the people who I

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<v Speaker 3>know to be ready for what this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>look like. And it was actually Angela who pulled together

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<v Speaker 3>a call and hers was going to be of journalists

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<v Speaker 3>because her thought was, you tell people news when you

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<v Speaker 3>know it is imminent and it's coming, rather than waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for it. And Tiffany, you were on that call. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember you. I remember your voice very clearly in my

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<v Speaker 3>ear even now as I think about it, because you

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<v Speaker 3>were like the injustice. The next morning, I have that evening.

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<v Speaker 3>I say to my wife r Jay, and I say

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<v Speaker 3>to my mom who is now here, and some other

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<v Speaker 3>relatives who have gathered that when I surrender myself, that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want them to be there, that I was

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<v Speaker 3>telling them that tomorrow you cannot come, and everything was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be fine. The lawyers told me they'll let me

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<v Speaker 3>out and I'll be home before the kids get out

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<v Speaker 3>of school probably, and I said, I'm gonna go by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll have Sam drop me off. I'll take it from there.

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<v Speaker 3>When it's all done. Sam's gonna bring me back, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bring me back home, and then we'll decide what to

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<v Speaker 3>say to the kids. And they, of course are like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to be with you, but they honored my request.

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<v Speaker 3>And then my pastor speaks up and he says, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going with you too. And then my friend, who's

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<v Speaker 3>a school board member but a very close friend, Daryl Jones, says,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to I'm Yama bear where both of

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<v Speaker 3>them We're gonna be with you. So the next morning

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<v Speaker 3>they show up at my house and my attorney, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the attorneys from Miami, is here, and the pastors here,

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<v Speaker 3>and we all pray together at the house. And I

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<v Speaker 3>am trying to be as stoic as I can be,

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to leave my family with the knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>that I was fine, that we're gonna beat them, and

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<v Speaker 3>that God has prepared me for this fight. I know it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna beat them. I get in the car, the

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<v Speaker 3>pastor and I talking and whatnot, and and I'm noticing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I live, you know, probably thirty minutes from

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<v Speaker 3>that where their headquarters were. And we drove in that

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<v Speaker 3>morning talking and he was trying to cite Scripture in

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<v Speaker 3>verse and I was hearing him, but I was playing along.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not present. I was like, don't cry, keep

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<v Speaker 3>your face together. You are not going to show weakness.

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<v Speaker 3>To anybody not today. And we get to their offices.

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<v Speaker 3>My pastor with me, Darryl comes in with me to

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<v Speaker 3>the FBA offices. I surrender myself into them. They take

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<v Speaker 3>some things off of me, and I can't remember. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's my license and some other stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can't have anything on my person. No phones know this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wearing a suit, but I've got to take the

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<v Speaker 3>belt off and all this other stuff. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>get right they take me into custody, and I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where I leave Pastor and Darryl. They've brought

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<v Speaker 3>me to where I have to whatever. And they said,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, we're gonna follow you and we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 3>you at the courthouse. And I said okay, And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking to myself, I don't know if they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to I don't know what that looks like. They

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<v Speaker 3>got me to the courthouse. The thing that I had

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<v Speaker 3>girded myself up to prepare for was this perk walk.

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<v Speaker 3>But some people from that call the night before knew

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<v Speaker 3>that that was a big concern of mine, and somehow,

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<v Speaker 3>in God's grace and good movement, I was able to

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<v Speaker 3>be surrendered underground and go up and so on and

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<v Speaker 3>so forth, which I counted as a really big blessing

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<v Speaker 3>because I didn't want my parents there and my family there,

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<v Speaker 3>because I didn't want them to see me every I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to see me in handcuffs and then to

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<v Speaker 3>have to be surrendered in that, and I know that

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<v Speaker 3>there will be pictures. I didn't want my kids to

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<v Speaker 3>see a picture. I didn't want them to see a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of me like that. And so I knew in

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<v Speaker 3>the federal court, I knew enough from them prepping me

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<v Speaker 3>for the press that they couldn't have cameras in the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 3>They could have some images that they draw, but there

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<v Speaker 3>were no there was no technology. So I felt like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be safe once I'm in. Well, there's a holding

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<v Speaker 3>celle that I go in for several hours and then

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<v Speaker 3>they come in to get me, and this time they

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<v Speaker 3>are they are the marshals are are are cuffing me different.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they have put cuffs around my legs and then

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<v Speaker 3>there's a big chain that goes up to my waist.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a big chain and it's cuffed, and then

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<v Speaker 3>my hands have handcuffs. But then those handcuffs have this

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<v Speaker 3>this chain going through it and then that's cuffed again,

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<v Speaker 3>so my movements are very limited my walk and I'm thinking, say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, criminal, it's this like there's a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to the judge and the agent's young

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<v Speaker 3>girl kind of guys, and I say, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>this is as close as I'll ever get to chat

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<v Speaker 3>old slavery. They have a hum, but they don't speak

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<v Speaker 3>any words.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That testimony, Andrew, Thank you so much. We love you

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<v Speaker 1>and you this podcast has been a joy, I think

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us to do alongside you.

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<v Speaker 3>So just simply thank you all for the support. You

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<v Speaker 3>all held me down, not just on this podcast but

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<v Speaker 3>all the way through. And thank you all the listeners

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<v Speaker 3>for your feedback, for your testimonies that you've shared personally

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<v Speaker 3>and keep choosing to move Yeah, and move.

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<v Speaker 1>Well because you said so much, there's still more that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys did not hear of his testimonies. So, because

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<v Speaker 1>we think it's so special to us because we love you,

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<v Speaker 1>but also special to you guys because you guys got

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<v Speaker 1>to know Andrew over the past couple of decades, we

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<v Speaker 1>are releasing his third part of his testimony as its

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<v Speaker 1>own standalone pod because your response.

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<v Speaker 2>To your response to it was overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys will be able to get that on

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<v Speaker 1>this coming Monday. Okay, it is that time in the

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<v Speaker 1>show for call to action. Do I go first or Andrew?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Andrew you should go first.

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<v Speaker 5>You a man, You don't know what your call action is?

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<v Speaker 3>What is no?

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<v Speaker 4>I got my call to action?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay you go, Okay, come on, it's my call action,

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<v Speaker 5>joy Read.

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<v Speaker 2>So my called action really is about love.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time we come back to you, guys, Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>Day would have come and gone. And so when we

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<v Speaker 1>do all this work, all of us, we are out

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<v Speaker 1>here hidden pavement, doing grassroots work, doing policy work. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is nice to have a partner in life. You

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about our day and your testimony, but

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<v Speaker 1>to have somebody alongside you hold your hand and fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love. And joy Read explore that aspect of Medgar

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<v Speaker 1>and Evers. And she has her book drops this week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out, it's out, it's out.

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<v Speaker 1>So she did the view with our girl Sonny on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>She did tammeron show. So please go out and buy

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<v Speaker 1>this book. You can get it everywhere books are, So

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<v Speaker 1>we encourage you to go to your independent bookstores, black

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<v Speaker 1>owned bookstore. Shout out to Uncle Bobby's in Philly, mark

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<v Speaker 1>lemont Hills store. You can order it online from independent stores.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my call to action. I'm asking Edgar and Meg.

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<v Speaker 2>And some love in your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Your first.

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<v Speaker 2>Love yourself first. That is my lesson this. We love

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<v Speaker 2>yourself first, all right, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 3>Love yourself and go get the book.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I'm just going to add on I love yourself,

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<v Speaker 5>go get the book. And in the spirit of loving

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<v Speaker 5>Black History Month, we are sitting with living Black history.

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<v Speaker 4>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you knocked her out, but guess what we are

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<v Speaker 5>celebrating Tiffany Cross Week all week.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And so my call to action is for all of

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<v Speaker 4>you to send our girls some birthday love. Tell her

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<v Speaker 4>happy birth Tell her.

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<v Speaker 5>Just because she is sharing forty five with Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 5>she does not have to become Donald Trump. Tell her

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<v Speaker 5>that her destiny is going to be greater than hers

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<v Speaker 5>and she will not have ninety one indictments or even one.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell her that she will not face a civil trial

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<v Speaker 5>for defamation. Tell her that instead she will live abundantly

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<v Speaker 5>in all of the goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>And loaded we love you.

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<v Speaker 5>Tip I wanted to shave Donald Trump in this, but

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<v Speaker 5>I do want to say. I do want to say

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm so grateful for your birth I am so

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<v Speaker 5>grateful to call you sister. I'm so thankful to share

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<v Speaker 5>this platform with you. I am so glad and grateful

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<v Speaker 5>that your latter years will be greater than your former years.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, birthday tip.

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<v Speaker 1>This birthday, I'll display quickly, this birthday would not be

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<v Speaker 1>what it is without our friendship. All of you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, are we love everybody?

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<v Speaker 4>Our girl group?

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<v Speaker 2>Our group chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Has held me up so many times, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>really encouraged people to find you sisters. Who ride for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Who you ride for Because when I think about love

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, the most abundant places where I get

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<v Speaker 1>love is our our group chat. You know, like either,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't post a picture without them saying

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<v Speaker 1>you so fine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we are always loving to other birthdays.

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<v Speaker 1>We give nice gifts to each other, so I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very loved. I expect to feel a lot more love

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<v Speaker 1>from you and you when we go eat after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been talking about my gray hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, pointing out I got grace everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, Andrew hate my headphones. I'm gonna get her

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<v Speaker 1>some airpos for her birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>Birthday, yea, some airpris.

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<v Speaker 3>We change the size.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like. I don't like this change. Oh you're

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<v Speaker 4>saying for the airpis. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that chain. Well anyway, We.

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<v Speaker 4>We love you J.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you ur J.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we end the show, I want to remind everyone

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