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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones, Drew DeMarco Farr. I'm JB. Long As always

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Speaker 1: represented by your Southern California to Yo to dealers, it's

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Speaker 3: I hate them before I joined the Rams. This was

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Speaker 1: I know we've had more painful losses, but where does

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Speaker 2: that's one you should have gotten that you didn't get.

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Speaker 2: So even beyond the rivalry, it's just get back for

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Speaker 2: so you've got to get it fixed. So I think

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Speaker 1: Because there's replacement value right long snapper in your battery

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Speaker 3: What we're week ten, now, that's a lot of time

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Speaker 1: You're worried about confidence though, I think is relevant because yes,

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Huh?

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Speaker 2: The draft pick. How do you? How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna get the best, the most focused out

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Speaker 2: That's how you keep the locker room. But like you said,

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Speaker 2: this has got to stop, and I think it can

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Speaker 1: There is another option if necessary. But do you agree

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Speaker 2: I think it'll hurt ten five years from now if

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it helps them. Indianapolis is in

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Speaker 2: If that was solid, you'd be seven and zero right now.

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Speaker 3: My only concern is this, and it's always gonna be

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Speaker 3: my only concern because you've done everything else to nullify

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Speaker 3: You couldn't cover him. There was only one before when

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Speaker 2: And so that's my only concern.

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Speaker 1: What if you're just trying to win the NFC West.

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Speaker 1: First things first, San Francisco was not able to acquire

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Speaker 3: But I was going to say that, like, Seattle scares

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Speaker 3: You can fly and go? And what does that do

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Speaker 3: Like, so JSN is playing at such a high level.

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Speaker 1: A long time six seven US.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying like that that move is underrated.

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Speaker 2: Touchdowns like shot plays.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, that's that was the one thing that

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Speaker 1: Let me take a stepping stone to Stafford and the

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt. Okay, so we've seen lots of

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Speaker 1: Doesn't look like you got the best quarterback in the NFC, you.

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Speaker 3: Got the best quarterback of the NFL. And I think

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Speaker 1: So you're putting his brain, his arm, talent into the

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Speaker 3: Be friendly system, and you're getting what is it, twenty

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Speaker 2: What it is.

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Speaker 1: But with Pooka, without Pooka with targets who are winning.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about this this three tight end identity, Now

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Speaker 3: Thirteen personnel because because there are no receiver running the

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Speaker 3: Things happen where you have to make adjustments, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: So offensively, the Rams are running a lot of the

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Speaker 2: Well running back. I bet you like twelve personnel, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: If you put thirteen out there, I'm really hamstrung. Here's

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Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do in base defense. This

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Speaker 2: If we see this, we're gonna do that. Don't call

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Speaker 3: And the best part about it is it's probably still

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing that offense has an advantage way

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Speaker 1: The league wide trend though, and San Francisco has always

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Speaker 1: The Rams are getting there is showing run personnel to

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Speaker 3: We're gonna run twelve plays, but we're gonna run them

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Speaker 3: we have a guy like Matthew Stafford who can identify

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Speaker 3: the defenses and know exactly who wants to go with

438
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 3: the ball. How much better do you think he'll be

439
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,600
Speaker 3: if we can rehab a Daniel Jones back or Sam

440
00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,560
Speaker 3: Darnold back from what he went through with the Jets,

441
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,160
Speaker 3: or some of these other people. And so the reason

442
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,280
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold's doing awesome, this is the same office he

443
00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,439
Speaker 3: ran in San Francisco. It's the same office he ran

444
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,320
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. And so I have Matthew Stafford now that

445
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Speaker 3: I can come out in thirteen personnel. You come out

446
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,920
Speaker 3: in a base formation with li with linebackers and safeties

447
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,720
Speaker 3: down in the box and I get one on one

448
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,280
Speaker 3: with up the seam, or I get whatever, like whatever

449
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 3: I want with an athletic tight end.

450
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Speaker 2: Come on, what are we doing?

451
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Speaker 1: It can't be a coincidence that Korum and Kiren both

452
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 1: loved it. Both had their best day of the season

453
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Speaker 1: last week.

454
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Speaker 2: Right, I'm glad you said what you said. There is

455
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Speaker 2: a quiet competition going on a ways. Yeah, it's fixing

456
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,399
Speaker 2: to be louder either way, it's good for us. I

457
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Speaker 2: thought the old line up front did a great job.

458
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,680
Speaker 2: I thought Kyen Williams, we said this on the digital show. Uh,

459
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Speaker 2: is it up to Sean to get Kiren going? Nop,

460
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,360
Speaker 2: It's up to Kyroen to get going, and he did. Uh,

461
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Speaker 2: You've got to make more out of your opportunities because

462
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Speaker 2: when Blake korm is in the game, that dude is

463
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Speaker 2: thinking end zone. I really do. I love everything he did,

464
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Speaker 2: except when you cut it back and you force Matthew

465
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Speaker 2: Stafford to be a fullback.

466
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Speaker 3: Don't do that now, matthe Safigan out the way, let

467
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Speaker 3: me go, let me go on on one side. We

468
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Speaker 3: had to get back over there. I'll say this too

469
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 3: about the competition, Piauce. You keep talking about t Firk

470
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Speaker 3: you don't think Tyler seeing that they're all that everyone

471
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden.

472
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Speaker 1: Das Allen's offensive face mass is my favorite penalty of

473
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Speaker 1: the season.

474
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, he was good until he pulled the guy,

475
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,160
Speaker 3: but everybody's when you're sitting in the meeting, right and again,

476
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Speaker 3: I may be the only one. I may be crazy,

477
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 3: maybe the only one thinks this way, But you're sitting

478
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Speaker 3: in the meeting and they're like, all right, t Firk,

479
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 3: this plays for you. How do you think everyone else

480
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 3: feels that's in that room like okay?

481
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Speaker 2: Like good for him? Yeah, I need some place for

482
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Speaker 2: me now, the same as Brayden Fisk when everybody's getting

483
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Speaker 2: sacks but you. And that's what Yes.

484
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Speaker 1: If not for that Davis Allen penalty, I think the

485
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Speaker 1: Rams would be nine for nine in the red zone

486
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks spanning the by aside from DeVante

487
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Speaker 1: Adams and Matthew Stafford getting on the screws. What's changed there,

488
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Speaker 1: what's been different?

489
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Speaker 2: I think that's just it.

490
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Speaker 3: I think this's the thirteen personnel is literally coming out

491
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Speaker 3: in thirteen play action pass under center, selling outside zone.

492
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Speaker 3: I mean, what the Rams about? I think the Rams

493
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Speaker 3: the first couple of plays ran play action, didn't even

494
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Speaker 3: run the ball. And against the Saints, they came out

495
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Speaker 3: and then came out and spread ran the ball right.

496
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Speaker 3: That just puts your defense now your wheels are spinning.

497
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Speaker 3: Then we get in the redsud we come out in thirteen,

498
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Speaker 3: we're inside the fifteen. You're like, oh, this this has

499
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Speaker 3: to be run. I have to be aggressive, I have

500
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Speaker 3: to fit to my gap play action pass. Now I

501
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: got a guy straight stretching, and it's just it, just again,

502
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Speaker 3: it makes you think so much this offense, and we've

503
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Speaker 3: been waiting.

504
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Speaker 2: To see this.

505
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Speaker 3: We haven't seen this since twenty eighteen nineteen when Todd

506
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Speaker 3: Gurley was running those outside stretch plays and Whitworth was

507
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Speaker 3: getting the edge and then they boot away and the

508
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: guys are just wide open. We're starting to get back

509
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Speaker 3: to that. But it's just out of a set eleven.

510
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Speaker 3: It's out of thirteen.

511
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Speaker 1: And every once in a while you pop Tyler Higbee

512
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Speaker 1: out there for an easy touchdown. But I wish I

513
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Speaker 1: had said it on the show last week because I

514
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: thought you guys probably did too. When you go fade

515
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: ball after fade ball and you kill Jacksonville that way,

516
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Speaker 1: I would have wagered anything that the first time they

517
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Speaker 1: get in the red zone, he's gonna cross face, you're

518
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Speaker 1: gonna hit him on an easy slant for touchdoun, which

519
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: they did, and then you see what the Saints had

520
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Speaker 1: to do the next time they had a bail linebacker

521
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Speaker 1: out there to take it away. You just go back

522
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Speaker 1: to the fade ball and he rises and wins again.

523
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Speaker 1: So now you've got him coming and going.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah there that that touchdown to Devonte was like stealing. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 2: just unreal. Yeah, I didn't even make a sound when

526
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Speaker 2: it hit his gut. Just done. Touchdown.

527
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the defense, Morris. I don't know if

528
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Speaker 1: you were listening last week when Demark and I were talking,

529
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Speaker 1: I called this the yeah butt defense, Like they're a

530
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Speaker 1: very very good defense, but the only the only thing

531
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Speaker 1: that you can prevent from saying, like their elite is yeah,

532
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: who have they beaten? Indy's their best win. The Colts

533
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: are the best offense. They've defeated. Who's the best quarterback?

534
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Speaker 1: They've taken down Daniel Jones.

535
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Speaker 3: To be Dan Jones is playing better, but I would

536
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Speaker 3: I mean, Mac Jones played his butt off.

537
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Speaker 2: You say c J.

538
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Speaker 1: Stroud got maybe the best individual quarterback, terrible offensive line situation,

539
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Speaker 1: didn't have his receivers week one. So I'm not trying

540
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Speaker 1: to damn this defense with faint praise. They've been really,

541
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Speaker 1: really good and there's plenty of metrics that can adjust

542
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Speaker 1: for opponent's strength, and they also say that this is

543
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Speaker 1: a top five defense. But I love the gauntlet they're

544
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Speaker 1: about to run. To your point about being ready for

545
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Speaker 1: this stretch, Go beat Mac Jones, Kyle Shanahan, take out

546
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. You know you still got Jared Goff, you

547
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Speaker 1: still got Baker Mayfield. The best offenses that they're gonna

548
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Speaker 1: face are in front of them, not behind him.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And again I think that's what when

550
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Speaker 3: we were talking about a DBI, that was what my

551
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Speaker 3: concern was, Like, who is going to be your dB?

552
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Speaker 3: If you played Tampa and let's just Tampa gets two

553
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Speaker 3: of the three guys back, you got some mismatches going

554
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Speaker 3: on there with Inmbuka, who's playing really well. Do you

555
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Speaker 3: have Godwin and then you have McMillan. I don't know

556
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Speaker 3: if he'll be back or not by that time, but

557
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: or Detroit.

558
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: Who's gonna cover Amaro?

559
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: Same Brent, Right, that's a different animal on the slot.

560
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: And guess what Jameson Williams is still He's still making

561
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: plays as well. And so there's gonna be some different

562
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: concerns there. And that's what I want to see from

563
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 3: the defense is how do you shut down some of

564
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 3: these top wide receivers. It's not gonna be the old way.

565
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to do it with multiple bodies, coverage,

566
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Speaker 3: leverage and different things.

567
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Speaker 1: You get the kicking game right though. The offense playing

568
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: like this, you don't have to hold an opponent to three,

569
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: seven to ten anymore.

570
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: Correct the mundo. You know what my answer is gonna

571
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: be with any receiver is destroy the supply line that QB.

572
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: So for every receiver that we just talked about, I

573
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: hope you've got tackles and guards because the pressure will

574
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Speaker 2: get there. And if we're talking about quarterbacks you haven't faced.

575
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Speaker 2: How about the running backs you have? I mean, really,

576
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: when you think about the the you go from Saquon

577
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: to Taylor, you had to face King Henry. You just

578
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: this is your second time around with McCaffrey, and you

579
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: did a pretty good job against him on the run

580
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: the first time you saw him. So this defense is

581
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Speaker 2: doing exactly what it's designed to do with the personnel

582
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Speaker 2: and how they do it, stop the run, earn the

583
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Speaker 2: right to rush a pass, and then get after him.

584
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: And I'll keep saying this, and I have to give

585
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: him all the props in the world. There's no way

586
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: I thought mac Jones was going to finish that ball

587
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: game with as many times as he got hit. Yeah. Really,

588
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm seriously. I mean, that was a heck

589
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: of an effort by him. He's got to remember that,

590
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: and you have to remind him of that. This Sunday.

591
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: They still and I think you said it during the broadcast.

592
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: Jared Verse went nose to nose with Trent Williams and

593
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: gave him some and Byron Young, like you said, if

594
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Speaker 2: he didn't give away that sack last week versus New

595
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: Orleans is really on one. These two guys are virtually

596
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: unblockable at times. They are game plan number one. So

597
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: I get receivers and how do you cover aj Brown?

598
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: I bet all opposing players or offenses are worried about,

599
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: how do we block these two dudes first so we

600
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Speaker 2: can get the ball.

601
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Speaker 1: No one's more worried about that than Kyle Shanahan and

602
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: mac Jones because the guy's not even hold him on

603
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: the football for three seconds. I mean he's playing point

604
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Speaker 1: guard back there, and so I bounce passing it correct,

605
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: take it to seconds.

606
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that my biggest concern over the next

607
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: two weeks is pass plays on first down. That's gonna

608
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Speaker 3: be my biggest concern because if you look at both

609
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: of these teams, the Niners and the Seahawks, they throw

610
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: the ball on rundowns right out of run formations.

611
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you're talking about previously, right, and that.

612
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 3: Is tough to stop if you have to, Well, how

613
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: do we stop guys from penning their ears back? You

614
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: gotta stop the runs, right, you got to stop the runs.

615
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna make you play the run first and then

616
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Speaker 3: get into your past.

617
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Speaker 1: And San Francisco couldn't and didn't run it in Houston,

618
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Speaker 1: and then they doubled down on it and ran all

619
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Speaker 1: over New York with not just CMC but Robinson too,

620
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Speaker 1: And so that is a real dimension you have to

621
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Speaker 1: respect again as you prepare for week ten.

622
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Speaker 2: And that's the one thing you can circle about McCready.

623
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Speaker 2: Everywhere he's been he can tackle, he can tackle inside out.

624
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

625
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Speaker 1: So you think he gets a look this week? Even

626
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Speaker 1: with do you will coming back?

627
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: I was surprised. I thought he'd played a little bit more,

628
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 2: but I thought Emmanuel Forbes really again, competition in the room.

629
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Speaker 2: Guess what happens, guy plays his best football. So I

630
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: think they're hitting all the right switches. But at some

631
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Speaker 2: point we're gonna see him. But the thing, the one

632
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: thing that jumps out of him, the guy's physical and

633
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: that's what the Rams are gonna bank on. And that's

634
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: what you need this Sunday, all.

635
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: Right, connect more dots from week five to week ten

636
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: in terms of adjustments, things that you saw at so

637
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: far that you think play at Levi's ts.

638
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: You gotta cover the backs.

639
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: You can't let Christian McCaffrey catch a four yard pass

640
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: and get fifteen.

641
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: Can't do that.

642
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: Starts after catches. How they sussist that goes hand in

643
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: hand with the time to throw thing. I just meant, well, that's.

644
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: That's their whole deal.

645
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: Like again, being around Kyle, and I only remember this

646
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: I was around and when I was seventeen eighteen years old.

647
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: But there's certain things that stuck with him that he said.

648
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: One he talked about the multiple running the same play

649
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: out of multiple formations and multiple personnels. But two, he said,

650
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: we considered passes behind the line of scrimmage and play

651
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 3: action passes part of the running game. So if you

652
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: see a play action pass and then mac Jones dumped

653
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 3: into McCaffrey, he has that to the run total in

654
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 3: his mind. Obviously it's not like that on the stats,

655
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: but in his mind, that's like a run play to him.

656
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: And so that to me says okay, if that's the case,

657
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: So we have to make sure we have someone around

658
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: McCaffrey at all times.

659
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: We got to make sure that he can't get it.

660
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: If we're gonna if Kendrick bourn is gonna run all

661
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: these deep ends and Juwan Jenny's, that's fine, we'll worry

662
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: about that later. But we just can't let McCaffrey catch

663
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: it four or five yard route and then turn into

664
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: a fifteen to twenty yard We got to be able

665
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: to tackle guys in space and play a little bit

666
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: tighter covers underneath.

667
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: I like the way you ran the ball. I don't

668
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: think Blake Korm or Kyvin Williams had to catch or

669
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: a target last week, right, they were just strictly running

670
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: backs or protectors. I like that game plan. You talk

671
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: about the emergence of thirteen personnel. I think that is

672
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: an offshoot of that. So continue on with that and

673
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: continue protecting Matthew Stafford. When you have a chance to

674
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: throw the football. I think this defense, like you said,

675
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: if you give them a lead, which is all they need,

676
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: give them a one score, two score lead, and have

677
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: them defend it where they have to rush the passer.

678
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: I don't think there's an O line in the world

679
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: that could keep them off you for three and a

680
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: half quarters. I just don't. So as long as you

681
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over and you remain on schedule offensively,

682
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: I think the defensive side will take care of yourself

683
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: as long as you stop the run. And the other

684
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 2: thing is what we started the show with. When you

685
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: have a chance to kick, it's got to go in period.

686
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: End of story, extra points, short field goals, even the

687
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 2: long ones. If you have to make it, you have

688
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: to have confidence in that group to at least do

689
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: their job or win the game if necessary. That can't

690
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: be an issue. You got to fix that by Sunday.

691
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: Can I say one last.

692
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: Thing, not even one last. As many as you want.

693
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Catch the ball, what is thrown to you. I think

694
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: that from a week you're that's the biggest thing.

695
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: That was a touchdown that was dropped and a crucial

696
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: first down that was dropped. And I think that took

697
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: a lot of momentum out of the offense in the

698
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: first half. A wee can get those those catches again.

699
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: It's again something so minute and so some of that

700
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: you've done since you've been a kid playing catch outside.

701
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: But those two drop passes that we saw, one from

702
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: Blake and one from Kiren that changed the game and

703
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: that puts you behind a little bit too much for

704
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: you have to get back and tie it up. But

705
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: if you caught those, you don't know the first game yeah,

706
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah, makes sense.

707
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Kiddle last time, though Ton just had

708
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: a great game. Kittle's back, but Fred Warner's not, and

709
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna feel different. I think going up to San

710
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Francisco and not seeing him in the middle of this defense.

711
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know who I'm happy or

712
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: not to see Bosa or Fred Warner. No.

713
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: Probably I disagree with you because I think if I'm kiring,

714
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: I got to get some get back.

715
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: That's how I see it.

716
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: I really I'm mad that you're hurt because that fourth

717
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: and one, you sold out all that stuff and everyone.

718
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm upset because now you stole my my chance to

719
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: get some get back away from me.

720
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: So whoever it.

721
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 3: Is, I'm gonna I'm gonna go get after whoever that is.

722
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: But you want to go against the best, especially when

723
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: they got the best. They got the best of you.

724
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: Tip of the cap. I'm happy he's out.

725
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what I always say. It feels like

726
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: I always say. When the Rams face the forty nine ers,

727
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: here's your chance to throw some dirn Autumn. Don't miss again.

728
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: Their record looks great, and look if they somehow managed

729
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: to sweep the Rams. If the forty nine ers win

730
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: this week, I think they've clinched a playoff spot. Because

731
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: that's not just seven, but it's seven NFC wins. It's

732
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: four and zero against the division a remaining schedule that

733
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: has Arizona, Carolina, Cleveland, Tennessee, Chicago like oh no, and

734
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't care how many wheels fall off, They're going

735
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: to get to ten, maybe eleven wins. So it is

736
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: incumbent upon the Rams, And I wish I had a

737
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: dollar for every time I've said this on this show

738
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: and others. DeMarco shaking his head because he's sick of

739
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: me saying this. But it seems like every time you

740
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: get to San Francisco on this schedule, they're banged up,

741
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: they're fragile, they're at a tipping point, and you've not

742
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: kicked them off that legend enough.

743
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: It's it's something about Kyle Shannon Roberts Sat. I don't

744
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: sleep all night about. Yes, it's just it's just very good.

745
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: It's those two together, Yes, that really like and McCaffrey.

746
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: When McCaffrey plays well, I'm.

747
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: Just like even when they had Demiico Ryan, I'm like,

748
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: ah whatever.

749
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: But like with Robert sala And and Kyle Shanahan and

750
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: maybe from those years we were at the coliseum and

751
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: they just it's like the first year and they had

752
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: all those pass rushers, you couldn't do anything.

753
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: Part of the two is the division you're playing, and

754
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: in this moment in time, knowing that Seattle's next, knowing

755
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: that the NFC West is the only division with three

756
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: teams that have six wins apiece. Remember last week we

757
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: framed the Saints is take care of your business, make

758
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: sure that you're in great playoffs stand and you look

759
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: at where the Rams are relative to their pursuers. I'll

760
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: know if you have any confidence in the NFC teams

761
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: off the bubble right now, the Bears and the Vikings

762
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: of the world. But this week then becomes about are

763
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: you real about defending your NFC West crown? Do you

764
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: want to host on Wildcar Weekend? Or maybe play for more?

765
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: I think the next two weeks are about that. You

766
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: can't look forward, But I think the next two weeks

767
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: are gonna say you're gonna tell us a lot about

768
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: the Rams.

769
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: Three throw the Bucks in there. Two primetime, Oh yeah,

770
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: for sure.

771
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: I just think in the NFC West, if you like,

772
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: the easiest way to get to the playoffs is whin

773
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: your division.

774
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: And you let one go at home.

775
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: So now you have to go into a hostile environment

776
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: with a coach that has done a masterful job against

777
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: your defense. One of creating a game plan against Aaron Donald.

778
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: Just I mean the game plan that he had JB

779
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: for Aaron Donald for the last three or four years

780
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: of his career was unbelievable that that was just like

781
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: we knew what was gonna happen, and they just did

782
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: it anyways, and they found a way to win, right.

783
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: And then a.

784
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: Defensive coach that has success with multiple players, regardless of

785
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: guys are heard or not of stop stifling your offense. Now,

786
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: I will say the second half of that Niners game

787
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: here in so far was.

788
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Completely different offense and defense.

789
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: And so that's what the Rams have to bank on

790
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: is we have to be able to go back to that.

791
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: And if we can we can do.

792
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: The start with like that, start faster and finish the

793
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: same way, then you'll be you'll be excited about the results.

794
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm glad there's a lot on it. Everything you guys

795
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: just said. I just want to beat them.

796
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: That's what I said on the podcast that I did.

797
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: It was like all that go, all these storylines. I

798
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: just don't like you.

799
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: You're cheating on our podcast, not at all.

800
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: No, it's double agent. I went behind enemy lines, told

801
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: him what it was.

802
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: Not afraid of them.

803
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I live down the street, JB. I'm about to

804
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: beat you. I'm gonna drive up there and eat you

805
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: guys up there.

806
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: Good party shots. Final thoughts on anything else?

807
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: No, just what do we get to I think we

808
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: got to everything. Uh did did I tell you that

809
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Dodson's got an ugly stance, but it's very effective.

810
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: Tell us more.

811
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that there.

812
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: Was last week you were on about protection. I think

813
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: that was the right time, in the right state.

814
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: The old line. I think that week off, the bye week,

815
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: really helped those two guards. In particular, when you have ankles,

816
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: you you can't really push, you know what I mean.

817
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: So they did a great job, but you can tell

818
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: they're starting to move people now. Kevin Dodson's starting to

819
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: knock people down. Steve Avula is starting to knock people

820
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: down and move people. Coleman Shelton on those double teams. Uh,

821
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: so that week off really helped. But man, that stance,

822
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: my goodness, good lord. You know who else had an

823
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: ugly stance? Aaron Donell did he? Oh my god, it

824
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: was terrible, But dude, it was effective. That's what I'm saying.

825
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely was it was, oh my god, just gross. But

826
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: he was just an animal. Yeah.

827
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: For me, I just want to know what Sean does

828
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: the second half of the season, because the last couple

829
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: of years or second half of the season and the

830
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: team is like hit a switch and they've gotten hot

831
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: and they've rolled.

832
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Which even that was kind of a reversal, right, because

833
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: they used to start fast and hang on.

834
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then for whatever reason it was a couple

835
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: of years ago, they flipped it and it's like and

836
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: you can see it. You talked about all of a

837
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 3: sudden and I know here it's the Saints. It doesn't matter.

838
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: The Saints defense is still really good. It wasn't The

839
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 3: Saints offense was the one that was that we were

840
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: a questioning. It's the defense was always good. I mean

841
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: they stifled Tampa and then you went out there and

842
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: did that to them.

843
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Whatever you want.

844
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: And you think this style plays as you get to

845
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: the holidays and the winter ahead, No, you.

846
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: Know, I love this is the time of the year

847
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: where every running back, like, be happy that we caught

848
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: Baltimore right before November. Be happy because all of a sudden,

849
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: why there here's gonna start wrested for one hundred and

850
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: fifty one hundred yards a game. No one wants to

851
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: tackle them, lamarge. And just this time of the year,

852
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: the team's green Bay. This one green Bay normally makes

853
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: their run. No One wants to tackle this time of

854
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: the year. They lean on the run game, Detroit to

855
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: another one. Right, there's gonna be some teams, but we're

856
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: gonna see who wants to tackle this time of the year.

857
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: And I expect the Rams to be.

858
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: Offensively and defensively to continue to get better as they've

859
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: done the last couple of years.

860
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: All Right, they finally got their first NFC victory against

861
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Now looking for their first West victory.

862
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: They'll have two opportunities back to back against their primary

863
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: competition in the division. For San Francisco then Seattle. Good

864
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: to see both. Save travels to the Bay Area. We'll

865
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: catch you at Levi's, which that's where the Super Bowl

866
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: is being played this year, am I Right?

867
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be great?

868
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: So having gone through San Francisco to make the confetti

869
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: fall at the Rams house, the only thing that could

870
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: ever even challenge that feeling, DeMarco would.

871
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Speaker 3: Be that's hey, listen, that'd be those those fans.

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