1 00:00:07,226 --> 00:00:09,666 Speaker 1: The season with Peter Schreeger as a production of the 2 00:00:09,786 --> 00:00:24,306 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with my Heart Radio. What's up, everybody, 3 00:00:24,346 --> 00:00:27,866 Speaker 1: It's playoff time. It's Super wild Card weekend. After they're 4 00:00:27,866 --> 00:00:30,146 Speaker 1: calling it now the NFL Super wild Card Weekend. I 5 00:00:30,186 --> 00:00:33,866 Speaker 1: feel like it's the what Jason, what was it when 6 00:00:33,866 --> 00:00:37,466 Speaker 1: we were kids in New Jersey? Was Park? You know, 7 00:00:37,546 --> 00:00:42,066 Speaker 1: It's like, that's what Super wild Card weekend? Um, I'm 8 00:00:42,106 --> 00:00:44,946 Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger. This is the season with Peter Schreeger, and 9 00:00:44,986 --> 00:00:48,266 Speaker 1: we are now into the playoffs and I'm already so 10 00:00:48,346 --> 00:00:51,186 Speaker 1: fired up for the week that is ahead in football. 11 00:00:51,226 --> 00:00:53,906 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the games. But I wanted to 12 00:00:53,906 --> 00:00:56,986 Speaker 1: start going through some coaching stuff. I've got really close 13 00:00:57,026 --> 00:00:59,186 Speaker 1: relationships with a lot of these guys and I want 14 00:00:59,186 --> 00:01:01,066 Speaker 1: to empty the bag and I haven't done it on 15 00:01:01,146 --> 00:01:04,066 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football. It's Tuesday's fluid, of course, but let's 16 00:01:04,186 --> 00:01:06,466 Speaker 1: let's get to the big ones. Uh. Let's start was 17 00:01:06,546 --> 00:01:08,906 Speaker 1: Shawan Payton. He was great last week on the podcast. 18 00:01:08,946 --> 00:01:11,706 Speaker 1: We got a lot of great feedback, made a little 19 00:01:11,746 --> 00:01:14,826 Speaker 1: news with him saying stuff about New Orleans and it's 20 00:01:14,826 --> 00:01:17,946 Speaker 1: not looking to go back there. And then also the 21 00:01:18,026 --> 00:01:20,706 Speaker 1: Brady history with him and that they're most likely to 22 00:01:21,026 --> 00:01:23,906 Speaker 1: work together at Fox as opposed to somewhere else. Then 23 00:01:23,906 --> 00:01:27,626 Speaker 1: on Sunday, I was on Fox NFL Kickoff with him, 24 00:01:28,186 --> 00:01:30,986 Speaker 1: and uh are great producers there were like, that was 25 00:01:31,026 --> 00:01:32,426 Speaker 1: a good podcast you did with I want to we 26 00:01:32,506 --> 00:01:34,826 Speaker 1: reenact that and ask him things more up to date 27 00:01:34,826 --> 00:01:37,746 Speaker 1: because there was news overnight and we did. But I'll 28 00:01:37,786 --> 00:01:39,906 Speaker 1: go to Saturday night, Sean pay and Chris and Thompson 29 00:01:39,906 --> 00:01:42,466 Speaker 1: and I went to dinner in Los Angeles. Um. The 30 00:01:42,546 --> 00:01:45,186 Speaker 1: three of us had a nice long dinner and we 31 00:01:45,306 --> 00:01:48,346 Speaker 1: just chatted about life, careers and then Sean Payton and 32 00:01:48,466 --> 00:01:51,346 Speaker 1: that was the topic. And I think it's really interesting 33 00:01:51,346 --> 00:01:53,586 Speaker 1: where he's at in his life. He's really happy at 34 00:01:53,586 --> 00:01:55,786 Speaker 1: Fox Sports, and I know you roll your eyes, Okay, 35 00:01:56,506 --> 00:01:59,106 Speaker 1: really happy and money is not an issue. He's gotten paid, 36 00:01:59,146 --> 00:02:00,946 Speaker 1: So when you have money is not an issue and 37 00:02:00,986 --> 00:02:03,906 Speaker 1: you're really happy and you're living in Manhattan beach uh 38 00:02:03,906 --> 00:02:05,546 Speaker 1: and living in life where he literally was saying us 39 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:08,826 Speaker 1: last week, he walks the dogs, he plays golf, and 40 00:02:08,826 --> 00:02:09,986 Speaker 1: then he still gets to be a part of a 41 00:02:09,986 --> 00:02:13,186 Speaker 1: team on the weekends. It's really appealing to stay, especially 42 00:02:13,186 --> 00:02:15,626 Speaker 1: at Fox where there's like a culture of you know, 43 00:02:15,666 --> 00:02:18,786 Speaker 1: they treat uh, they treat their guys really good. And 44 00:02:18,826 --> 00:02:22,786 Speaker 1: Sean Payton has treated really well there. Um, He's loved 45 00:02:23,106 --> 00:02:25,146 Speaker 1: and he knows he's got that as a fallback. So 46 00:02:25,186 --> 00:02:27,786 Speaker 1: what would it take for him to go? Uh the 47 00:02:27,826 --> 00:02:29,866 Speaker 1: appeal of returning to coaching, as he said with that 48 00:02:29,946 --> 00:02:33,826 Speaker 1: great Nascar analogy, he's outside the stadium, he hears the buzz, 49 00:02:33,866 --> 00:02:36,866 Speaker 1: He's no, he's gonna come back. It's just when. Um. 50 00:02:37,826 --> 00:02:39,226 Speaker 1: There are things that I think, man, I don't think 51 00:02:39,226 --> 00:02:43,546 Speaker 1: the money is paramount. I think situation. I think comfort. 52 00:02:43,786 --> 00:02:47,866 Speaker 1: I think his ability uh to do things his way 53 00:02:48,066 --> 00:02:51,506 Speaker 1: and to be able to compete with the guys around 54 00:02:51,586 --> 00:02:54,106 Speaker 1: him that he wants. So I do think that he 55 00:02:54,146 --> 00:02:56,386 Speaker 1: wants to bring his own defensive coordinator. I don't think 56 00:02:56,386 --> 00:02:57,786 Speaker 1: I'm speaking out of turn that I think he'd want 57 00:02:57,786 --> 00:02:59,466 Speaker 1: to bring some of his front office guys. Not saying 58 00:02:59,466 --> 00:03:01,706 Speaker 1: he would fire a GM and it's already there, but 59 00:03:01,746 --> 00:03:03,146 Speaker 1: I think he would want some of his guys and 60 00:03:03,586 --> 00:03:06,466 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of years of experience working in 61 00:03:06,586 --> 00:03:08,546 Speaker 1: organizations and people he trusts, and he would want to 62 00:03:08,546 --> 00:03:11,466 Speaker 1: bring them. One thing I think is really important. I 63 00:03:11,506 --> 00:03:14,666 Speaker 1: don't think quarterback is like this end all be all 64 00:03:14,746 --> 00:03:17,986 Speaker 1: for Sean talked about it. I said Russell Wilson's name 65 00:03:18,026 --> 00:03:20,986 Speaker 1: on Sunday and he didn't shudder, he didn't. And his 66 00:03:21,066 --> 00:03:24,466 Speaker 1: point was they didn't have a quarterback in New Orleans 67 00:03:24,826 --> 00:03:26,946 Speaker 1: and he got there and no one wanted Drew Brees. 68 00:03:27,146 --> 00:03:29,426 Speaker 1: And yeah, that might have been lightning in a bottle. 69 00:03:29,426 --> 00:03:32,226 Speaker 1: But guess what. Drew Brees went down. Teddy Bridgewater went 70 00:03:32,226 --> 00:03:33,866 Speaker 1: five and oh for the Saints a couple of years ago, 71 00:03:33,986 --> 00:03:37,546 Speaker 1: and they went to the playoffs. Um last year, Jameis 72 00:03:37,586 --> 00:03:41,106 Speaker 1: Winston went down. They had a rotating door of Taysom Hill, 73 00:03:41,306 --> 00:03:45,946 Speaker 1: of Ian Book of Trevor Simeon. Guess what they were 74 00:03:45,946 --> 00:03:48,586 Speaker 1: into till Week eighteen when they were finally eliminated at 75 00:03:48,586 --> 00:03:51,226 Speaker 1: the end. Like, I don't think Sean looks at the 76 00:03:51,306 --> 00:03:53,546 Speaker 1: quarterback position as the end all be all, and he's 77 00:03:53,586 --> 00:03:56,986 Speaker 1: never had a Justin Herbert or a Josh Allen. He's 78 00:03:56,986 --> 00:03:59,386 Speaker 1: never had one of those guys. But I honestly look 79 00:03:59,426 --> 00:04:02,666 Speaker 1: at the availability of Sean pay and and also the 80 00:04:02,706 --> 00:04:05,106 Speaker 1: matches that he would make like that Denver's gotta be appealing. 81 00:04:05,906 --> 00:04:08,506 Speaker 1: Owners are willing to spend money on the team. Forget 82 00:04:08,546 --> 00:04:10,666 Speaker 1: his salary. The team, I don't know if you guys 83 00:04:10,666 --> 00:04:15,706 Speaker 1: saw this Week eighteen already eliminated. They put four thousand 84 00:04:15,746 --> 00:04:18,026 Speaker 1: dollars into the field for just Week eight teen in 85 00:04:18,066 --> 00:04:20,386 Speaker 1: Denver to make sure the playing surface was that it 86 00:04:20,466 --> 00:04:23,586 Speaker 1: was was up to snuff. Um. Not every team does that. 87 00:04:23,586 --> 00:04:25,626 Speaker 1: That's a real commitment to winning, and that's putting your 88 00:04:25,626 --> 00:04:28,106 Speaker 1: money where your mouth is. I think that's appealing. I 89 00:04:28,106 --> 00:04:31,666 Speaker 1: think working for UH an owner that wants to win 90 00:04:31,786 --> 00:04:33,586 Speaker 1: that badly or wants to put the best product on 91 00:04:33,626 --> 00:04:37,266 Speaker 1: the field is something that is appealing. I haven't heard 92 00:04:37,266 --> 00:04:39,986 Speaker 1: of any other teams reach out to the Saints to 93 00:04:39,986 --> 00:04:42,986 Speaker 1: to get the permission to speak to Sean, But I 94 00:04:42,986 --> 00:04:46,186 Speaker 1: would imagine of the different vacancies, I would think Arizona. 95 00:04:46,866 --> 00:04:48,746 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna go to Arizona. That's 96 00:04:48,746 --> 00:04:52,346 Speaker 1: so many question marks there, especially with the fact that uh, 97 00:04:52,426 --> 00:04:54,906 Speaker 1: you know, you also have to build from the bottom, 98 00:04:54,906 --> 00:04:57,026 Speaker 1: and there's a quarterback that you're married to for all 99 00:04:57,026 --> 00:04:58,706 Speaker 1: that time that he doesn't know what Kyler Murray. So 100 00:04:58,786 --> 00:05:02,666 Speaker 1: let's say Arizona is one Houston. All those draft picks 101 00:05:02,666 --> 00:05:04,586 Speaker 1: they have the second in the twelfth pick, they have 102 00:05:04,626 --> 00:05:08,786 Speaker 1: an empty quarterback was and the negatives are the Houston 103 00:05:08,826 --> 00:05:11,386 Speaker 1: Texans franchise has been more about the last few years, 104 00:05:11,586 --> 00:05:13,906 Speaker 1: and you'd have to really build that thing from the 105 00:05:13,906 --> 00:05:15,826 Speaker 1: bottom up. But it's no worse than what New Orleans 106 00:05:15,826 --> 00:05:18,506 Speaker 1: was in when he got there. And the last one's Carolina. 107 00:05:18,786 --> 00:05:20,946 Speaker 1: And I think a very important point that he made 108 00:05:20,946 --> 00:05:23,066 Speaker 1: on Fox with Me on Sunday with Sean Payton was 109 00:05:24,066 --> 00:05:26,306 Speaker 1: it's okay, I will coach in the division, and I 110 00:05:26,346 --> 00:05:28,546 Speaker 1: think the Saints would trade me within the division if 111 00:05:28,546 --> 00:05:31,906 Speaker 1: the if the compensation is right, and he cited that 112 00:05:31,986 --> 00:05:35,906 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels went from the Patriots to the Jets. He 113 00:05:36,026 --> 00:05:39,346 Speaker 1: cited that Bill Belichick went from UH temporarily with the 114 00:05:39,426 --> 00:05:43,386 Speaker 1: Jets to the Patriots. There have been interdivision trades before 115 00:05:43,386 --> 00:05:46,586 Speaker 1: of coaches. It has been done, and it seemed from 116 00:05:46,626 --> 00:05:48,866 Speaker 1: his indication on Fox Sunday that I don't know if 117 00:05:48,866 --> 00:05:50,626 Speaker 1: he's had conversation with Mickey Loomis, but they'd at least 118 00:05:50,626 --> 00:05:53,466 Speaker 1: be listening to what Carolina had to offer. You look 119 00:05:53,506 --> 00:05:56,786 Speaker 1: at all those destinations right now, and I could be 120 00:05:56,826 --> 00:06:00,306 Speaker 1: missing one. Am I missing one of them? That vacancy, Oh, Indianapolis, 121 00:06:00,306 --> 00:06:02,906 Speaker 1: I don't see Indianapolis. I'm just dismissing that. I just 122 00:06:03,066 --> 00:06:04,906 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think Sean would. I don't know. 123 00:06:04,986 --> 00:06:07,386 Speaker 1: That just seems like a different kind of deal. Um, 124 00:06:07,426 --> 00:06:10,146 Speaker 1: thank you for that, Aaron. I forgot the Colts Right now, 125 00:06:10,186 --> 00:06:12,546 Speaker 1: As of Tuesday morning, the Cardinals and the Panthers and 126 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:15,026 Speaker 1: the Texans have not asked or have gotten permission from 127 00:06:15,026 --> 00:06:17,986 Speaker 1: the Saints to speak with Shaanpagne. Only Denver has. But 128 00:06:18,066 --> 00:06:20,226 Speaker 1: I think all four of those are in play. But 129 00:06:20,346 --> 00:06:23,466 Speaker 1: here's the wild card. And again, I talk all the 130 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:25,506 Speaker 1: time with Paine. He has not told me this straight out, 131 00:06:25,746 --> 00:06:28,386 Speaker 1: but I know his history. I know his relationship with 132 00:06:28,426 --> 00:06:31,266 Speaker 1: that city where he lived for many years and coached. 133 00:06:31,706 --> 00:06:36,506 Speaker 1: If the Dallas job opens up, I think that's the 134 00:06:36,546 --> 00:06:38,946 Speaker 1: front runner. That would That would take a lot, That 135 00:06:38,946 --> 00:06:42,346 Speaker 1: would take McCarthy having a colossal failure on Monday. I 136 00:06:42,386 --> 00:06:44,306 Speaker 1: think it would take a lot. And again, I'm not 137 00:06:44,306 --> 00:06:46,026 Speaker 1: speaking on behalf of Sean Page. And I just think 138 00:06:46,066 --> 00:06:48,986 Speaker 1: all these other options you can be vinced on, you 139 00:06:48,986 --> 00:06:51,946 Speaker 1: can you can twist your Dallas. It's like, all right, 140 00:06:52,466 --> 00:06:58,026 Speaker 1: former Cowboys offensive coordinator, great relationship with Jerry Jones, lived 141 00:06:58,066 --> 00:07:02,986 Speaker 1: in Dallas, raised his kids, in Dallas. Um, certainly something 142 00:07:03,026 --> 00:07:05,586 Speaker 1: to watch alright, one sewn down? How about the next? 143 00:07:05,626 --> 00:07:08,786 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. Everyone's asking me about McVeigh. Spoke with Hi yesterday. 144 00:07:10,186 --> 00:07:12,426 Speaker 1: Anyone who tells you that this is a decision has 145 00:07:12,426 --> 00:07:14,986 Speaker 1: been made is a crooking, a liar, because it has 146 00:07:15,226 --> 00:07:18,586 Speaker 1: as of Tuesday. Sean McVeigh not fickle, but certainly not 147 00:07:18,706 --> 00:07:21,746 Speaker 1: someone who's gotta take yet right now. And I knew 148 00:07:21,746 --> 00:07:23,626 Speaker 1: this for a couple of weeks, and the Rams knew 149 00:07:23,626 --> 00:07:25,906 Speaker 1: this for a couple of weeks. He's burnt out. We 150 00:07:25,946 --> 00:07:28,986 Speaker 1: talked about it. Um, you want to go through the 151 00:07:29,026 --> 00:07:31,506 Speaker 1: field stuff. Well, yeah, on the coaching field, he has 152 00:07:31,506 --> 00:07:34,986 Speaker 1: had NonStop since seventeen, just you know, pedal to the metal, 153 00:07:35,346 --> 00:07:38,266 Speaker 1: got the super Bowl, and you think that this would 154 00:07:38,266 --> 00:07:41,546 Speaker 1: be this great like feeling of of joy and all right, 155 00:07:41,546 --> 00:07:43,746 Speaker 1: I've accomplished something. He's not wired that way. So it 156 00:07:43,826 --> 00:07:45,546 Speaker 1: was right back to work and there really was no 157 00:07:45,626 --> 00:07:48,786 Speaker 1: time off. And I think that these injuries, you know, 158 00:07:48,866 --> 00:07:51,306 Speaker 1: all coming at the same time, and then him trying 159 00:07:51,306 --> 00:07:53,626 Speaker 1: to muster the same sort of energy and same sort 160 00:07:53,666 --> 00:07:55,426 Speaker 1: of zest that he had the year before this year 161 00:07:55,826 --> 00:07:59,146 Speaker 1: was difficult. And he's turned that inward. This is real 162 00:08:00,026 --> 00:08:02,546 Speaker 1: like psychology stuff that we're talking about now, this is 163 00:08:02,586 --> 00:08:04,546 Speaker 1: real mental health stuff. These are the conversations they didn't 164 00:08:04,546 --> 00:08:07,186 Speaker 1: have when Parcels walked away from the Giants, or when 165 00:08:07,186 --> 00:08:10,066 Speaker 1: we've seen countless coaches leave at their peak and then 166 00:08:10,106 --> 00:08:13,026 Speaker 1: maybe hint to come back. And the burnout factor is 167 00:08:13,066 --> 00:08:15,426 Speaker 1: really strong with Sean. The question is is he so 168 00:08:15,546 --> 00:08:18,026 Speaker 1: burnt out that he needs time away. Here's how I 169 00:08:18,026 --> 00:08:21,906 Speaker 1: would envision if he was to step away, going I 170 00:08:21,946 --> 00:08:23,746 Speaker 1: think I'm fine saying this, and this is why they 171 00:08:23,746 --> 00:08:26,106 Speaker 1: pay me on a podcast. You know. They want stuff 172 00:08:26,146 --> 00:08:27,906 Speaker 1: that's different than just what I've said everywhere else. So 173 00:08:27,906 --> 00:08:30,786 Speaker 1: here we go the plan that I would see, and 174 00:08:30,786 --> 00:08:33,026 Speaker 1: this is talking to multiple sources within the RAMS and 175 00:08:33,066 --> 00:08:35,146 Speaker 1: with Sean, that makes the most sense if he were 176 00:08:35,146 --> 00:08:39,226 Speaker 1: to walk away, was it goes away. He's still involved 177 00:08:39,226 --> 00:08:42,266 Speaker 1: with the team in some capacity, whether that be assisting 178 00:08:42,266 --> 00:08:44,546 Speaker 1: with the draft or popping in here and there, but 179 00:08:44,626 --> 00:08:46,586 Speaker 1: he would have conversations with the RAMS and how that 180 00:08:46,626 --> 00:08:50,106 Speaker 1: would go. And they do hire either an interim coach 181 00:08:50,186 --> 00:08:53,026 Speaker 1: from internal, which would be like a Rahey Morris or 182 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:55,346 Speaker 1: someone like that, or they hire an external coach who's 183 00:08:55,346 --> 00:08:57,866 Speaker 1: willing going and knowing this might just be a one 184 00:08:57,946 --> 00:09:00,626 Speaker 1: year deal, and look, it might be forever. McVay might 185 00:09:00,666 --> 00:09:04,266 Speaker 1: never come back, but I think the expectation is that 186 00:09:04,306 --> 00:09:07,786 Speaker 1: he eventually would come back and just needs some time away. 187 00:09:07,866 --> 00:09:12,066 Speaker 1: Whether that's one season, two seasons, I don't know, but 188 00:09:12,186 --> 00:09:15,226 Speaker 1: that one season would give a coach who might not 189 00:09:15,266 --> 00:09:17,986 Speaker 1: get a head coaching opportunity elsewhere, the opportunity to show 190 00:09:18,026 --> 00:09:21,346 Speaker 1: his chops. That might give a coach that doesn't necessarily 191 00:09:21,346 --> 00:09:24,146 Speaker 1: have the name um that that other coaches in the 192 00:09:24,186 --> 00:09:26,226 Speaker 1: league already have who are interviewing, give them a chance 193 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:28,786 Speaker 1: to put them on the radar. I would imagine the 194 00:09:28,826 --> 00:09:31,786 Speaker 1: coaching hire would be inspired and would have input from 195 00:09:31,826 --> 00:09:34,626 Speaker 1: not only Sean McVeigh um, but from a lot of 196 00:09:34,666 --> 00:09:37,946 Speaker 1: different people within the Rams organization. Could be internal, could 197 00:09:37,946 --> 00:09:39,786 Speaker 1: be external. Could be someone who's used to work for 198 00:09:39,826 --> 00:09:42,026 Speaker 1: the Rams and is now somewhere else and is looking 199 00:09:42,026 --> 00:09:44,466 Speaker 1: to get back with the Rams um. But I think, 200 00:09:44,506 --> 00:09:46,746 Speaker 1: no matter what, if Sean takes a year away or 201 00:09:46,786 --> 00:09:50,946 Speaker 1: he stays, that important period right now before the draft 202 00:09:51,186 --> 00:09:54,546 Speaker 1: is going to be spent on mental health, spent on 203 00:09:54,626 --> 00:09:58,026 Speaker 1: recharging the batteries, and spent on re prioritizing what he 204 00:09:58,066 --> 00:09:59,906 Speaker 1: wants to do. And this guy's only thirty six, he 205 00:09:59,906 --> 00:10:02,306 Speaker 1: has no kids, but he's got a lot of responsibilities 206 00:10:02,306 --> 00:10:05,106 Speaker 1: within that building and also a lot of stuff that's 207 00:10:05,106 --> 00:10:06,786 Speaker 1: been going on in his life. I don't he would 208 00:10:06,826 --> 00:10:10,346 Speaker 1: mind me sharing that. Um, his grandfather was his mentor, 209 00:10:10,506 --> 00:10:13,506 Speaker 1: his grandfather was his beacon as far as football goes, 210 00:10:13,626 --> 00:10:17,746 Speaker 1: and his grandfather's passing, uh was not sudden, but was 211 00:10:17,826 --> 00:10:22,026 Speaker 1: something that really affected him. I also think his wife's family, 212 00:10:22,386 --> 00:10:25,866 Speaker 1: many of whom are in Ukraine right now. The handling 213 00:10:25,906 --> 00:10:27,746 Speaker 1: of how do you manage that on a day to 214 00:10:27,786 --> 00:10:29,546 Speaker 1: day basis, that's not a one week thing. That is 215 00:10:29,586 --> 00:10:33,226 Speaker 1: an ongoing thing, and the toll that that has taken 216 00:10:33,986 --> 00:10:37,466 Speaker 1: on not only his wife, Veronica's family, but his his 217 00:10:37,506 --> 00:10:40,306 Speaker 1: own being and every day, you know, having to try 218 00:10:40,306 --> 00:10:42,706 Speaker 1: to get the good news coming there and whether that's 219 00:10:42,746 --> 00:10:44,666 Speaker 1: coming or not, and what he can do to help, 220 00:10:44,706 --> 00:10:46,946 Speaker 1: and how to be a better husband and better family member. 221 00:10:46,946 --> 00:10:49,226 Speaker 1: All that stuff is real, uh. And there's a lot 222 00:10:49,226 --> 00:10:51,266 Speaker 1: of other little things paper cuts along the way that 223 00:10:51,386 --> 00:10:53,186 Speaker 1: would add up. But the truth of the matter is 224 00:10:53,426 --> 00:10:57,906 Speaker 1: he has been NonStop football seven since he got the 225 00:10:57,986 --> 00:11:00,186 Speaker 1: job in and you can say, all these guys are, 226 00:11:00,346 --> 00:11:02,706 Speaker 1: but I think that he has enough self awareness to know. 227 00:11:03,186 --> 00:11:04,786 Speaker 1: And the flip side is he also has enough self 228 00:11:04,826 --> 00:11:07,586 Speaker 1: awareness to know. The longer this drags on, the more 229 00:11:07,626 --> 00:11:10,346 Speaker 1: this puts other coaches in a bad position looking for jobs, 230 00:11:10,506 --> 00:11:13,226 Speaker 1: or this puts his players in a weird position knowing 231 00:11:13,346 --> 00:11:15,386 Speaker 1: whether they want to come back to the Rams or not, 232 00:11:15,426 --> 00:11:16,986 Speaker 1: And it puts a team in a tough position. So 233 00:11:17,586 --> 00:11:23,466 Speaker 1: I would imagine before the Super Bowl or combine will 234 00:11:23,506 --> 00:11:25,826 Speaker 1: have a better ideal. But I don't think he's gonna 235 00:11:25,866 --> 00:11:28,426 Speaker 1: make a decision in the next couple of days. That's 236 00:11:28,426 --> 00:11:32,826 Speaker 1: the McVeigh deal. Lastly, Kingsbury spoke to him for about 237 00:11:32,826 --> 00:11:35,506 Speaker 1: an hour yesterday. Again, I don't think I'm betraying his 238 00:11:35,546 --> 00:11:38,106 Speaker 1: confidence in me telling you this. I said, it was 239 00:11:38,106 --> 00:11:40,986 Speaker 1: actually a really good conversation with bid Will. Uh. Mr 240 00:11:41,026 --> 00:11:44,626 Speaker 1: Bidwill came in and like he had a really emotional farewell, 241 00:11:44,746 --> 00:11:47,866 Speaker 1: Like bid Will and Cliff really got along, and Cliff 242 00:11:48,466 --> 00:11:51,826 Speaker 1: really liked bid Will. Um four and thirteen was just 243 00:11:51,906 --> 00:11:55,706 Speaker 1: not the season that the Cardinals expected and someone has 244 00:11:55,746 --> 00:11:57,066 Speaker 1: to pay for that, and it looks like it's going 245 00:11:57,146 --> 00:11:59,626 Speaker 1: to be the head coach. But I thought Bidwill's comments 246 00:11:59,626 --> 00:12:02,466 Speaker 1: were classy. Afterwards, he said, uh, you know, no one 247 00:12:02,506 --> 00:12:04,906 Speaker 1: works harder. I've never been around a harder working coach. Again, 248 00:12:05,026 --> 00:12:07,426 Speaker 1: same thing. And I'm not saying because Cliff is single 249 00:12:07,666 --> 00:12:09,666 Speaker 1: and you know it doesn't have a wife and doesn't 250 00:12:09,666 --> 00:12:11,186 Speaker 1: have a family, and that this is like what his 251 00:12:11,746 --> 00:12:14,706 Speaker 1: But Kingsbury lived at the Arizona Cardinals building. And you 252 00:12:14,746 --> 00:12:16,666 Speaker 1: might say, well, well, how they only win four games. 253 00:12:17,226 --> 00:12:19,746 Speaker 1: Let's just go real quick through this thing. A quarterback 254 00:12:19,786 --> 00:12:22,786 Speaker 1: gets the injury, he goes down. You know, they were 255 00:12:22,826 --> 00:12:24,946 Speaker 1: making things work with Colte McCoy for a while. He 256 00:12:24,986 --> 00:12:28,746 Speaker 1: goes down. They go to Mexico City, the offensive line 257 00:12:28,786 --> 00:12:32,146 Speaker 1: coach gets in some some drama there. They get back 258 00:12:32,226 --> 00:12:35,306 Speaker 1: the GM. Uh, you know, it takes a leave of absence, 259 00:12:35,386 --> 00:12:37,306 Speaker 1: and that leave of absence ended up being for the 260 00:12:37,346 --> 00:12:40,386 Speaker 1: rest of the season, and eventually that's that for him. 261 00:12:40,786 --> 00:12:44,066 Speaker 1: So you're talking about no offensive line coach, no quarterback, 262 00:12:44,186 --> 00:12:47,266 Speaker 1: no GM. And you know Kingsbury didn't say a word. 263 00:12:47,306 --> 00:12:50,306 Speaker 1: He didn't once, you know, say w wait a second, 264 00:12:50,386 --> 00:12:53,066 Speaker 1: this is not fair or make excuses. He just kind 265 00:12:53,066 --> 00:12:54,986 Speaker 1: of ate it and he'll eat it. And guess what 266 00:12:55,066 --> 00:12:58,146 Speaker 1: he'll eat guaranteed paychecks for the next five years. This 267 00:12:58,226 --> 00:13:00,186 Speaker 1: is the part I think people don't even know when 268 00:13:00,186 --> 00:13:04,226 Speaker 1: to talk about the NFL coaching situation. The contracts are guaranteed, 269 00:13:05,466 --> 00:13:08,226 Speaker 1: so in one way, talking to Cliff yesterday, there was 270 00:13:08,266 --> 00:13:10,346 Speaker 1: this feeling of, you know, we didn't get it done, 271 00:13:10,506 --> 00:13:13,506 Speaker 1: and also I feel bad for my assistant coaches because 272 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:16,906 Speaker 1: you know, it's all they have to uproot their lives. 273 00:13:16,906 --> 00:13:19,066 Speaker 1: But on the other end of it is I didn't 274 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:23,146 Speaker 1: ask to get fired. I didn't quit, and now I 275 00:13:23,186 --> 00:13:28,386 Speaker 1: get five years of guaranteed paychecks until seven. That means 276 00:13:28,386 --> 00:13:30,266 Speaker 1: every two weeks a direct deposit hits and it comes 277 00:13:30,306 --> 00:13:35,106 Speaker 1: from the Arizona Cardinals until Uh. He's very quick to say, 278 00:13:35,146 --> 00:13:36,866 Speaker 1: don't cry for me, I'll be all right, and he's 279 00:13:36,906 --> 00:13:40,146 Speaker 1: gonna do his best to make sure those assistant coaches 280 00:13:40,226 --> 00:13:43,426 Speaker 1: land somewhere on new staffs. He's not doing anything until 281 00:13:43,426 --> 00:13:47,426 Speaker 1: those guys all find their footing somewhere. Uh. But Kingsbury, 282 00:13:47,426 --> 00:13:49,426 Speaker 1: I don't think he's rushing to get back to coaching. 283 00:13:49,426 --> 00:13:51,986 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about him going to the Patriots being offensive coordinator. 284 00:13:52,026 --> 00:13:54,266 Speaker 1: I don't see that. I think he's gonna take some time. 285 00:13:54,306 --> 00:13:57,546 Speaker 1: It's been a grueling twelve months for him. Uh, and 286 00:13:57,666 --> 00:14:00,146 Speaker 1: he's getting paid out, so it's a paid vacation. He's 287 00:14:00,146 --> 00:14:02,066 Speaker 1: gonna use it and he'll assess what he wants to 288 00:14:02,106 --> 00:14:04,906 Speaker 1: do next. Contract wise, it's interesting in his deal there's 289 00:14:04,946 --> 00:14:08,706 Speaker 1: offset language. So say he was to go and Aaron, 290 00:14:08,746 --> 00:14:11,146 Speaker 1: give me any NFL team that needs an offensive you 291 00:14:11,226 --> 00:14:15,346 Speaker 1: might want an offensive coordinator. You just name any team, really, Okay, 292 00:14:15,346 --> 00:14:19,026 Speaker 1: So say the Colts they hire um, you know whoever, 293 00:14:19,386 --> 00:14:21,946 Speaker 1: they hire Hardball as their coach. I'm just putting that 294 00:14:21,946 --> 00:14:26,226 Speaker 1: out there, and Hardball hires Kingsburyer's offensive coordinator. And money wise, 295 00:14:26,306 --> 00:14:27,866 Speaker 1: let's say I don't know what Cliff was making. Let's 296 00:14:27,866 --> 00:14:30,746 Speaker 1: say Cliff was making three million dollars with the Cardinals, 297 00:14:30,826 --> 00:14:32,786 Speaker 1: all right, and let's say the Colts say, will give 298 00:14:32,786 --> 00:14:36,306 Speaker 1: you one million to be our offensive coordinator. The Cardinals 299 00:14:36,346 --> 00:14:38,546 Speaker 1: still have to pay him the two million. It offsets, 300 00:14:38,546 --> 00:14:42,066 Speaker 1: so it's it's abtracted from what you're making with that team, 301 00:14:42,186 --> 00:14:44,826 Speaker 1: and then you get that money left over. So even 302 00:14:44,866 --> 00:14:48,506 Speaker 1: if he was to take you know, five thousand dollars 303 00:14:48,506 --> 00:14:50,946 Speaker 1: to be an offensive lot and offensive coordinator or a 304 00:14:50,986 --> 00:14:53,346 Speaker 1: quarterback coach, the Cardinals have to then eat the rest 305 00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:56,586 Speaker 1: of that cost. It's it's wild. You know a lot 306 00:14:56,586 --> 00:14:58,346 Speaker 1: of people are like, why isn't Adam Gates. We haven't 307 00:14:58,386 --> 00:15:00,026 Speaker 1: heard from Adam Gates. Adam Gaze was doing that with 308 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:03,346 Speaker 1: two teams with the Jets and Dolphins, Like it's it's 309 00:15:03,386 --> 00:15:05,466 Speaker 1: the truth, Like Adam Gates was making a lot of 310 00:15:05,506 --> 00:15:08,026 Speaker 1: money the last few years. And it's just what it is. 311 00:15:08,026 --> 00:15:11,426 Speaker 1: When you're a fired head coach, you're gonna be okay financially. 312 00:15:11,986 --> 00:15:15,506 Speaker 1: When you're a fired offensive coordinator or a fired offensive 313 00:15:15,546 --> 00:15:17,266 Speaker 1: line coach, right, it's not the same. You're not making 314 00:15:17,306 --> 00:15:19,666 Speaker 1: the same money and some of those contracts aren't as guaranteed. 315 00:15:19,706 --> 00:15:22,066 Speaker 1: But uh, Kingsbury's gonna be all right. I don't know 316 00:15:22,106 --> 00:15:24,986 Speaker 1: about that job. And I really like the Cardinals organization. 317 00:15:25,026 --> 00:15:26,786 Speaker 1: I think bid Will is a good man and I 318 00:15:26,786 --> 00:15:29,066 Speaker 1: think he wants to win. And look, he's eating these costs. 319 00:15:29,066 --> 00:15:30,826 Speaker 1: He knows how much it costs. To fire Cliff is 320 00:15:30,866 --> 00:15:32,906 Speaker 1: a real bold move because you're ripping off the band aid. 321 00:15:33,146 --> 00:15:34,986 Speaker 1: But the fans wanted it and it was time to 322 00:15:35,026 --> 00:15:37,386 Speaker 1: start a new But you gotta find a GM, gotta 323 00:15:37,426 --> 00:15:39,146 Speaker 1: find a coach. Kyler is probably not ready for the 324 00:15:39,146 --> 00:15:41,706 Speaker 1: start of the season, and you're looking at a roster 325 00:15:41,866 --> 00:15:46,546 Speaker 1: that has, you know, DeAndre Hopkins probably at a different 326 00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:48,626 Speaker 1: stage of his career than he was. You're looking around, 327 00:15:48,666 --> 00:15:50,706 Speaker 1: you're like, all right, we got two linebackers the last 328 00:15:50,826 --> 00:15:54,986 Speaker 1: couple of drafts, and Zaven Collins and and uh Isaiah 329 00:15:55,026 --> 00:15:57,026 Speaker 1: Simmons who haven't really developed in the way that you'd 330 00:15:57,026 --> 00:15:59,426 Speaker 1: expect first round players to do. Like, I don't see 331 00:15:59,426 --> 00:16:05,186 Speaker 1: what's there. So again, true rebuild, great place to live, Arizona, 332 00:16:05,466 --> 00:16:08,226 Speaker 1: low pressure market. So you kind of like that if 333 00:16:08,266 --> 00:16:10,666 Speaker 1: you're a coach, knowing that it's you're gonna have some 334 00:16:10,706 --> 00:16:20,186 Speaker 1: time to at least get your footing. But between Indianapolis, Houston, Arizona, Denver, Carolina, UM, 335 00:16:20,226 --> 00:16:22,186 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting over the next few days. The one 336 00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:23,746 Speaker 1: name I would mention and we haven't had him on 337 00:16:23,786 --> 00:16:26,346 Speaker 1: the podcast yet, and I kind of regret not getting 338 00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:28,226 Speaker 1: him on, and I think he's gonna be a head 339 00:16:28,266 --> 00:16:32,146 Speaker 1: coach is Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator of the Lions. Um. 340 00:16:32,226 --> 00:16:34,666 Speaker 1: I'm just hearing a lot of good things, and I 341 00:16:34,706 --> 00:16:37,666 Speaker 1: think the way that they came out and performed uh 342 00:16:37,746 --> 00:16:40,106 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Packers in a game that they were 343 00:16:40,146 --> 00:16:42,586 Speaker 1: technically eliminated from and then giving it. They're all at 344 00:16:42,666 --> 00:16:47,706 Speaker 1: Green Bay. How about this. I'd be very surprised if 345 00:16:47,746 --> 00:16:49,626 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson isn't it a a head coach. And I know 346 00:16:49,786 --> 00:16:51,506 Speaker 1: people want to say, well, what about this guy? What 347 00:16:51,546 --> 00:16:53,346 Speaker 1: about that guy? I'm not I'm not look, I'm not 348 00:16:53,386 --> 00:16:56,426 Speaker 1: weighing in on anything about other guys. I'd be surprised 349 00:16:56,466 --> 00:17:00,906 Speaker 1: if thirty six year old offensive coordinator math major in 350 00:17:01,026 --> 00:17:05,306 Speaker 1: college played quarterback at North Carolina like you you could, 351 00:17:05,466 --> 00:17:08,426 Speaker 1: and then was with Dolphins and Dan Campbell got him 352 00:17:08,586 --> 00:17:12,786 Speaker 1: here in uh, of course, in in Detroit, and he's 353 00:17:12,826 --> 00:17:17,746 Speaker 1: been outstanding and creative and he's a communicator, so not 354 00:17:17,826 --> 00:17:20,426 Speaker 1: a household name. But I'd say, if we're doing this 355 00:17:20,506 --> 00:17:22,546 Speaker 1: at Super Bowl Week, I would be surprised if Ben 356 00:17:22,586 --> 00:17:27,506 Speaker 1: Johnson wasn't a quarterback. Guys. We've got a sponsor to 357 00:17:27,586 --> 00:17:30,866 Speaker 1: this season with Peter Schreeger. I'm told that's great news. Uh. 358 00:17:30,866 --> 00:17:34,106 Speaker 1: And it's DraftKings, who I've been partners with for many years, 359 00:17:34,666 --> 00:17:37,106 Speaker 1: UH through the NFL Network and Good Morning Football. Let's 360 00:17:37,106 --> 00:17:41,786 Speaker 1: get into the playoff preview presented by DraftKings Sports Book. 361 00:17:41,826 --> 00:17:44,706 Speaker 1: I'm gonna focus on one game, and that is Seattle 362 00:17:44,746 --> 00:17:47,266 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Right now, we're looking at the point spread, 363 00:17:47,306 --> 00:17:49,866 Speaker 1: as the forty Niners are ten point favorites. The over 364 00:17:49,986 --> 00:17:52,426 Speaker 1: under is forty two and a half, and if you 365 00:17:52,426 --> 00:17:54,546 Speaker 1: want to be real bold, the money line is a 366 00:17:54,626 --> 00:17:57,346 Speaker 1: plus four hundred for Seattle and minus five hundred for 367 00:17:57,346 --> 00:18:00,546 Speaker 1: San Francisco. I'm gonna focus on one player and one 368 00:18:00,586 --> 00:18:04,186 Speaker 1: player only, and that is brock Purty. I went on 369 00:18:04,226 --> 00:18:07,026 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football on on Tuesday morning of this week 370 00:18:07,066 --> 00:18:08,906 Speaker 1: and I said that brock Purty should be the offensive 371 00:18:08,946 --> 00:18:11,186 Speaker 1: rookie of the year, and I got scoffed, I got 372 00:18:11,346 --> 00:18:14,306 Speaker 1: laughed at. Jason McCurdy almost threw a pen at me 373 00:18:14,426 --> 00:18:17,466 Speaker 1: because party has played five games. But I think what 374 00:18:17,546 --> 00:18:20,066 Speaker 1: brock Purty has done over the last five weeks is 375 00:18:20,106 --> 00:18:22,466 Speaker 1: as impressive as anything that any rookie has done over 376 00:18:22,506 --> 00:18:26,746 Speaker 1: the whole entire seventeen game season. Bertie came in in 377 00:18:26,786 --> 00:18:30,626 Speaker 1: the most adverse situations, thrown into the mix as a Mr. 378 00:18:30,666 --> 00:18:33,506 Speaker 1: Irrelevant last pick in the draft, and not only has 379 00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:36,866 Speaker 1: exceeded his expectations, He's been better than Trey Lance, He's 380 00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:39,626 Speaker 1: been better than Jimmy Garoppolo, and he has the forty 381 00:18:39,706 --> 00:18:43,146 Speaker 1: Niners offense playing it's best football of the year. I 382 00:18:43,226 --> 00:18:46,066 Speaker 1: know this is division rivalry. I know that Seattle and 383 00:18:46,306 --> 00:18:49,826 Speaker 1: San Francisco has a ton, a ton of history. I 384 00:18:49,906 --> 00:18:52,866 Speaker 1: also know that San Francisco is likely going to wax 385 00:18:52,986 --> 00:18:56,506 Speaker 1: the Seahawks this weekend. No Jordan Brooks on the defensive 386 00:18:56,506 --> 00:19:00,026 Speaker 1: side for Seattle. Rock Purty getting more and more confidence 387 00:19:00,066 --> 00:19:02,666 Speaker 1: as the week goes on, and I think brock Purty 388 00:19:02,746 --> 00:19:05,626 Speaker 1: is a strength, not a weakness for the San Francisco 389 00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:07,506 Speaker 1: forda Nanits You're gonn see a lot of analysis this 390 00:19:07,546 --> 00:19:12,146 Speaker 1: week saying well, it's brock Purty's inexperience, going into how 391 00:19:12,146 --> 00:19:14,866 Speaker 1: many rookies do the Seahawks have. They have two rookies 392 00:19:14,866 --> 00:19:17,786 Speaker 1: that offensive tackle, They've got Kenneth Walker, They've got to Requall, 393 00:19:17,826 --> 00:19:20,466 Speaker 1: and they've got boy A mafe Gino Smith doesn't isn't 394 00:19:20,466 --> 00:19:23,226 Speaker 1: exactly Tom Brady with his playoff experience. And I think 395 00:19:23,306 --> 00:19:27,666 Speaker 1: that San Francisco is gonna be rocking early Saturday. Fans 396 00:19:27,706 --> 00:19:29,946 Speaker 1: are gonna come out and droves. I love the Seahawks 397 00:19:29,986 --> 00:19:32,066 Speaker 1: fan base. This game was being played in Seattle like 398 00:19:32,106 --> 00:19:34,666 Speaker 1: it was a few Thursday nights ago. Maybe I say 399 00:19:34,706 --> 00:19:37,346 Speaker 1: Seattle as a shot, but uh, I might regret this 400 00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:39,706 Speaker 1: decision and being so blunt about this. I think the 401 00:19:39,746 --> 00:19:41,786 Speaker 1: forty Niners take care of business, and I think brock 402 00:19:41,826 --> 00:19:45,146 Speaker 1: Purty has a day. 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Shawn's a cliff and a bunch of 422 00:20:43,386 --> 00:20:45,466 Speaker 1: coaching vacancies. I like that, errands at work and no 423 00:20:45,546 --> 00:20:48,826 Speaker 1: sounds good. Yeah, he's nodding all right. Part two is 424 00:20:48,826 --> 00:20:50,586 Speaker 1: going to be an awesome interview with one of my 425 00:20:50,586 --> 00:20:53,186 Speaker 1: favorite people in the world. Stay on the feed. Uh 426 00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:55,786 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is going to take us through the last week. 427 00:20:55,786 --> 00:20:57,826 Speaker 1: He has said he's the GM of the Buffalo Bills. 428 00:20:58,186 --> 00:21:00,706 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, everybody, click on Part two coming up 429 00:21:00,786 --> 00:21:21,106 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. Yeah. 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