1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 3: Raven is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Curtis. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 3: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: if you'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: get her a second date. But first, Raven, how long 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 3: has it been since you heard from Curtis. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 4: It's been a couple of weeks. 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 5: Okay, that's kind of a while. Have you tried to 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 5: reach out to him in that time. 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: I've texted and called, but he just hasn't returned my calls. 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 5: Oh no, okay, Well, why don't you tell us about 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 5: the date? 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 4: Okay? 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Well, the date went really well, which is why this 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: is like so confusing. 18 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 4: We had instant chemistry. 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 6: He's super confident and really attractive, and he was a 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 6: good listener, which is also really attractive, So it just went. 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: Really really well. 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 6: We went to a brewery and there was like a 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 6: late night pop up comedy show. 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: You know, it was loud, but it was like intimate. 25 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: It was small, and you know, we shared a bench, 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: so I don't know, and just like the chemistry was 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: off the charts. There was lots of leaning in inside jokes. 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: We were really flirty and laughing and it just felt 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: like such. 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: An amazing date. 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, we just had the same kind of 32 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: sense of humor, you know. So the day went well. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: We ended up going back to Curtis's place after and well, you. 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: Know, it went really well. 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 6: So you know, we're laying in bed afterwards, everything's relaxed, 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 6: where I like having some pillow talk. 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: It was really soft and quiet. 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: So you went back. 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: And it wasn't just like to play games or for 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 5: a nightcap, like it really really really well. 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: It went really really really wow. 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: Thank you for. 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: So we're joking a little bit and then here's where. 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 6: I don't know, I can't. This is the moment that 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 6: I can't get out of my brain. It's mortifying. Okay, 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 6: So we're joking and I was laughing at something small, 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 6: you know, and then I just like. 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: My laugh like escalated and I started snorting, okay, and 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: then couldn't. 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: Catch my breath and I started choking. So I was 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: likeing and like couldn't, couldn't just like stop, And he's 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: sitting up, he's patting my back. He got me some water, 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: but like I clocked it, Curtis looked terrified. 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: Like what is happening with this chick right now? It 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: was just not great. 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 5: Oh well, it's definitely awkward. I feel like it would 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 5: be very dramatic if he decided to be like oh, 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: she snorted and choked. I mean, it's highly possible. I 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: wouldn't put anything above a dude. But how did you 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 5: leave it? Like, so, did you just like get up 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: and go okay, thanks. 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm alive by Yeah, I just left, you know, I 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: just we woke up the next morning and I was like, okay. 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 7: I jan since and you've heard nothing from him? 65 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I didn't. I didn't text like right 66 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: away that day. I waited like two days and then 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: I texted, and then I waited like another day before 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: I called. And I just haven't turned back. And I 69 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be overbearing. 70 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: I just don't love ghosting. 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: After a hook cut, Raven is on the phone and 72 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: she's getting ghosted by a guy named Curtis. So we're 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: about to call him and see if he'll tell us 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: why he's ghostinger and maybe get her a second date. 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: But first, Raven why don't you break down your day again. 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 7: For us real quick? 77 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: So I went to this little comedy pop up at 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: a brewery and. 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 6: Our chemistry was off the charts and we were really flirty. 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: We went back to his place, we had a really 81 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: great time, and then we were joking. 82 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: I was laughing. 83 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: The laugh just escalated into a snort into. 84 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: A cough that. 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Just then wouldn't stop, and I think it freaked him out. 86 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: And I left the next day and I haven't heard 87 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: from him since. 88 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 7: Okay, well, are you ready for us to call? Yeah, 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 7: all right, let's do it. Here we go. Hello, Hi, man, 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 7: I speak to Curtis. Please. This is so Hey Curtis, 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 7: how are you. This is a radio show. It's called 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 7: The Jewbil Show. 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 5: Hi, Curtis. I'mina. 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 7: Hi, I'm Victoria and my name is Jubil. What's up? 95 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 8: What's up with this all about? 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 7: Have you ever heard of the show before? 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 8: Yeah? Of course? 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: Okay, great, Well we do the second on the show 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: called the First Day follow Up. That's where if you 100 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: ghost somebody, they can email us to call you and 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: ask why you're ghosting them. And we got an email 102 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 3: about you from Raven. 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, what happened? 104 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 8: This? Is this is gonna be on the This is 105 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 8: on the radio. 106 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 6: Yeah. 107 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: She told us all about your date. She said that 108 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: it was probably the best date she's ever had, the 109 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: most chemistry she's ever had with anybody. But now you're 110 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: ghostinger and she doesn't know. Why would you mind telling us? Uh? 111 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: Uh? 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 7: Yeah? 113 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 8: I oh my god? Okay wow? Uh sure. 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 9: So the morning after Raven left, I went back in 115 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 9: the bedroom and I noticed that my AirPods were gone. 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: Do you think she saw your AirPods? 117 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 8: Well? I checked the night stand out there, checked my charger, 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 8: not there. I checked my bed, not there. They were 119 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 8: right there on my nightstand. 120 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: When was the last there? Like, but when did you 121 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: see them last? It sounds like there were some activities 122 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 5: going on and it would be kind of hard to 123 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: focus on air pods in the moment. So when was 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: the last time you saw them? Right there? 125 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 8: But I mean before I went to bed, like before 126 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 8: I would just sleep. 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 7: Okay, hmmm, so you think she stole. 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 8: I remember looking at them. I didn't use them. 129 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 7: But so you think she stole your AirPods? 130 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yeah? 131 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: Huh Why would she steal your air pods? 132 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 8: Maybe hers hers broke? She she she loved mine. 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 9: I mean they are you know, they're in the newer models, 134 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 9: so maybe they were attracted to her. 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 7: I don't I don't know. 136 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: Well that's pretty uh like, I don't see anyone like 137 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: sleeping with someone and then just stealing the air pods. 138 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 5: And I mean, but it still is a mystery. If 139 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: his aeropods are missing, then what would have happened? I mean, 140 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: I don't know. 141 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: Could you have just lost them or misplaced them? 142 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 7: Are they under the bed? 143 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 8: I checked? 144 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 9: I checked, literally, I even checked the bathroom, you know. 145 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 9: So yeah, I don't want to date somebody who steals 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 9: my stuff. That's why I didn't call her back. 147 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: Okay, that's understandable. I wouldn't wan to date someody who 148 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: steals my stuff either. And Curtis Raven is on the 149 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: phone and wants to talk to you. 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 8: Oh that's right, she's here. She's on the phone. Listen. 151 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 8: I'm not calling you back because you are a thief. 152 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: No, I'm not a thief. 153 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: I didn't steal your air pods. Those were my AirPods. 154 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: I took them out of my bag when we got 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: to your place, and I put them on the charger 156 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: so I would have them. Because one I didn't know 157 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: how the night was going to go, so they needed 158 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: to be full for if I was going home that 159 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: night and I need my AirPods to sleep. 160 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: I need to listen to a. 161 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Podcast or music or something because I can't sleep. 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: I need some white noise. 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 8: Okay, that makes it worse, That's what I do. 164 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 2: Why is that worse? 165 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: How does that make it worse? 166 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 9: Okay, because now I'm picturing you coming over with backup 167 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 9: ear pods AirPods. 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: So that she isn't still yours. 169 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: Now back up. I just bring them everywhere. I just 170 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: have them. 171 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to charge them again in case I 172 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: was going home that night, I don't know, wanted them 173 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: to have to listen to. But then also I slipt 174 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: over and I need to listen to things to sleep. 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I can't just. 176 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: Sleep in a new place with no noise. 177 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: I need a little bit of background something, So I 178 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: put on a podcast. 179 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 9: Okay, you just said you listen to AirPods when you sleep. 180 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 9: You were in my bed. My AirPods disappear. I'm just 181 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 9: connecting the dots here. 182 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: Is it possible or even that you accidentally used his 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 5: AirPods instead of your own? 184 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: No? 185 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely not like they're basically part of my sleep routine. 186 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 6: Like I just I know my headphones, you know what 187 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 6: I mean? Like that, I didn't take your AirPods? 188 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 8: Okay, so then what happened to mine? 189 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: I have no idea. 190 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know where you put yours. I'm I took. 191 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: Air pods this the next morning, they were on the charger. 192 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 8: And now they're gone. So that I mean, I. 193 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Put mine on the charger and I took them. So 194 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: I took the AirPods. 195 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: See what you put yours on his charger? 196 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 5: Did you move his AirPods? 197 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 6: I know there were no air pods, but I put 198 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 6: mine on his charger and then I took them. 199 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: Were you guys drinking? 200 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 9: I had a couple of beers, but enough to remember. 201 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 9: I mean, I would have remembered if she busted out 202 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 9: some AirPods and put them on the night stand. Yeah, 203 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 9: you're a thief, is what it is. 204 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 8: You know. I respect that. 205 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't respect it. But that's that's just you. 206 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 9: You do you, And that's why I ghosted. That's why 207 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 9: I didn't call, because I'm I'm not going to be 208 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 9: dating a thief. First, it's their pods, and then it's 209 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 9: my wallet. 210 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 8: What's next? 211 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, I didn't take your AirPods? 212 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: Dude? Why would I take yours if I have my own? 213 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 8: Yes, you did, you took them. You're a thief. 214 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: Okay, fine, you say I'm a thief. There's no place 215 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: they could be other than your nightstand. 216 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 8: No, there's not. 217 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 9: Oh you know what what I I. 218 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 8: Think I may have less them than my gym bag. 219 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 8: What are you? 220 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: Are you serious? Right now? 221 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: You didn't check your gym bag, you didn't check everywhere else. 222 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: In your apartment. 223 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 6: Before you start blaming me calling me a thief, I'm 224 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 6: looking through it right. 225 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 7: Are they there? 226 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: This is unbelievable. 227 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, there they are. I Uh, I'm. 228 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 7: Curtis. Would you like to go on another day with Raven? 229 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 7: We'll pay for. 230 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 8: It, you know what if if she's up for it? 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: Uh no, thank you? Uh you and your AirPods? 232 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: Man. 233 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 8: That's fair, Yes, that's warranted. But at least I found 234 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 8: my AirPods. 235 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: Jubile's first day fall