1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: I was crying before I even shook hands. 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: Meehow Rene, meehow Caitlin. Good to hear from you. 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: Nice to hear your voice. 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: How is it in China? 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 4: My friend, China is fantastic, Caitlin. Actually, as you know 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 4: of somebody who'd lived here for a while, the smog 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 4: here in China is not great, but we are having 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: tremendously windy days here, and so therefore the wind is blowing. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: The pollution away. 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 4: And we're also now in a holiday, so as you know, 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 4: when they're on a holiday here, they shut down the factory. 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 4: So when they shut down the factories, there's not quite 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: as much pollution. So on that note, I feel like 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: I'm in. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: La minor pollution but not Beijing level. Yeah. I got 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: an ammonia when I lived there, almost dead. 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: It was bananas. What happened. 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: I lived in a hutong where they burn call for fuel, 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: and I was breathing it in every day. And then 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: eventually I went to the hospital and they were like, oh, 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: you have a lung infection. And I was like, a 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: lung infection that doesn't sound great. And my doctor was 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: smoking a cigarette while she told me. 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: So. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, shit got real but I like living in Biding 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: very much, so a lot of stuff's been happening. Let's start, 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: as we usually do, by saying thank you, thank you 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: to all of the people who have made amazing suggestions 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: for who we should have on the podcast. The list 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: continues to grow. The latest suggestion that I love Mirka Federer. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Well why not? 32 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: I mean, what a great behind the scenes. You know 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't realize. Well maybe they do 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: because they're Federal fans and they follow tennis. 35 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: But Mirka was a very good tennis player in. 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: Her own right, which is how her and Roger actually met, 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: which was at the Olympics, and then they fell in 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: love and got married. And you know, she was a 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: really good tennis player her own right, which is being 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: helpful I think for Roger because she knows the life. 41 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: So that's been really good. 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: But sadly, Rodger's not playing here in China, so the 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: chances of me getting America are zero at this point. 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: But having said that, we will endeavor to try and 45 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: get her at some point, maybe in Australia. 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Even so, fingers crossed on that one. 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: Fingers cross. You guys can talk tennis, you can talk fashion. 48 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: Mierica has her shit together. Seemingly, she seems to run 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: the whole Federer operations. Yes, America. Another idea for twenty 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: nineteen is a rule change. You and I had a 51 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: very spirited back and forth about a video that caught 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: Spanish player Fernando Verdasco seeming to basically abuse a ball 53 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: kid for not bringing him a towel fast enough. This 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: is all going down on Twitter. It is pretty reprehensible, 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: and you had some really strong thoughts about it. 56 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: Yes, obviously, our Racket Magazine podcast listeners are pretty cool 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: and awesome and well because hopefully some of them follow 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: me on Twitter, and if they do, they would have 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: held they would have seen my rant, which was. 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Pretty it was pretty pretty aggressive. 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, but I'm so over it, Calin, 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 4: I'm so over these professional players thinking that these kids 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: are like their servants. And you know, having said that, 64 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: even if you have servants, you don't treat them like 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: this like he was such he was. I mean, the 66 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 4: word for him in that moment was just ridiculous. Listen, 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: I was a player. I know what it's like to 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 4: be out there and be stressed out. I wasn't exactly 69 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: the best human being on the court. But when it 70 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: came to the ball kids, I mean no chance I 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: was rude to them. 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: It's like, what are you doing? This kid is. 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: Trying his best. 74 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: He runs over there, he like gestures that he didn't 75 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: move fast enough, and then the poor kid, God love him, 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: he like nods his head at the end like I 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: got it, sir, I got it, Like, oh my god, 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: so enough with the towel. I'm so over it. Back 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, nobody got a friggin towel. Steffi grapp 80 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: would do the old finger under the chin, flick it, 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: and Pete Sampress would do the finger across the forehead 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: and flick it, and you know, maybe use their shirt wristbands. 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: People people wore wristbands. 84 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: And you know what, if you're really desperate for the towel, 85 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: they'd run over after a long game and tell themselves down. 86 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: But now every single player, after every single point wants 87 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: the towel, and it drives me bananas. Literally, someone will 88 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: get aiste and then they'll walk over and get the towel. 89 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: It's like, what. 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: Exactly did you do in that time of telling yourself 91 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: down and getting aiste, it's like, give me a break. 92 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: Half the time they're doing it to like, I don't know, 93 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: like take their time. But back in the day, you know, 94 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: people would, as we talked about, like play with their strings, 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: turn around, walk to their. 96 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: Sites, say oh my god. 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: So the ATP I believe in the next general Gen 98 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: tournament at the end of the are going to have 99 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: towel racks. So instead of getting the kids to bring 100 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: it to you, you got to go get your own 101 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: towel off the rat which I think is a great idea. 102 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 4: And I'll stop all this bullshit toweling down after every 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: single point it drives me nuts. And yelling at kids 104 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: not okay. 105 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: Yelling at kids is never okay, especially volunteer kids who 106 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: are there having what you have to assume is like 107 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: a dream experience, getting to be up close and personal 108 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: with the best tennis players on the planet. Benice, the 109 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: kids shouldn't be hard, nice, the kids fall star. 110 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: No, shouldn't be hard. 111 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 3: Let's move into this week's interview. While you've in China, 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: you nabbed our second player current Player interview and it's 113 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: a great one with somebody who is a little bit controversial. 114 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little controversial, a little polarizing. I would say, 115 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: you know, people either love her or hate her. You know, 116 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 4: players that people that watch her have that feeling and 117 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: they and it's Coco Vanderway. And so Coco was over 118 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: here in is over here in China. She's had a 119 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 4: bit of a rough year as far as her singles 120 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: is concerned, because she's had a few injuries and her 121 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 4: ankle has been. 122 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: A real problem for her. 123 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 4: She had to pull out of Wuhan in the middle 124 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: of the match last week because of the ankle again, 125 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: and struggled here in the first round. 126 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: But you know, Coco's battling away. 127 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: Of course, she had an amazing moment about a month 128 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 4: ago when she, of course won her first Grand Slam 129 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: doubles title and Grand Slam title with Ashbardy in the 130 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: doubles at the Years Open. So she's battling in doubles 131 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: and she's trying to keep her shit together in singles, 132 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: and but you know she's Yeah, she's absolutely polarizing on 133 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 4: the court. But the great thing about her is that 134 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: she's super honest and she's very very different off the 135 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: what then she is on. I mean, she still sort 136 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 4: of has that bravado when she walks around, but she's 137 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: going to explain to you why she has that walk 138 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: and why she has that bravado. And you know, I 139 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: like Coco a lot and I enjoy my one on 140 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: one conversations with her. We spent a couple of breakfasts 141 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: together here in China and just sat there and just 142 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: talked about life and talked about some stuff and I thought, God, Coco, 143 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: you got to tell these stories on the podcast, so 144 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: you're going to get to listen to that today. 145 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: The stories were great. She is super self aware and 146 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: what I like so much about it, in addition to 147 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: being an admirer of her all court game that is 148 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: filled with great volleying and obviously, like you said, spectacular 149 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: doubles play, which is stuff that I love. She's really 150 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: self aware and you guys start at that moment where 151 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: you kind of disact her on the court bravado and 152 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: where it comes from, which is I think is a 153 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: very very useful way to understand her. So it was 154 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: a great interview. I'm really excited for people to listen 155 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: to it, check it out and enjoy it. 156 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 4: Right, all right, we are here in wu Hard, Yeah, 157 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm here with Coco Vandawaykoko. 158 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, mate ah, thank you for having me. Yeah. 159 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: So, I don't know if you've listened to the podcast, 160 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: the Racket Magazine podcast, but you're going to have to 161 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 4: now because you're going to be on it. 162 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: You're I'm gonna I'm gonna have to check to make 163 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: sure I'm represented properly. 164 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: Pressure is on then, pure Speaking of pressure, so obviously 165 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: growing up in your family, let's talk about that a 166 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: little bit. 167 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Sure was it difficult? 168 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously if people don't realize you grew up 169 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: in a very well known sort of sporting family. 170 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: How was that growing up in a family like that, Well, 171 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: I grew up in a well known family in general, 172 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: not just sports. 173 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: My lineages insane. 174 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: My grandmother was Miss America. My grandfather was as a 175 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: patriarch or the family was kind of the leader. He 176 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: was going to medical school and playing in the NBA. 177 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: He created the Staples Center, and he worked for the 178 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: president as developing the physical education of the school systems. 179 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he did all sorts of crazy cool things. 180 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: Then it goes to my uncle played in the NBA Kiki, 181 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: my mom two time Olympian and two different sports my 182 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: aunt became a doctor but played professional horse polo, and 183 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: then my other uncle, Brooke, played pro beach volleyball and 184 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: won metal at the Goodwill Game. So I definitely come 185 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: from a very sporty family, but just a very courageous 186 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: family and just doing so many different things and different sports, 187 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: and everyone asked me how cool it is, but it's. 188 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: All I knew. 189 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: So it was very normal for me to have success. Well, 190 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: just famous people around the house, being able to go 191 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: and do different things, like I could go in the 192 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Lakers locker room no problem. I could go shoot baskets 193 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: at the Staples Center and I went to when I 194 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: played at the Tiebreak Tens at Masison Square Garden, people 195 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,359 Speaker 1: were coming up to me asking me how my grandfather 196 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: was because he played at the Old MSG, and just 197 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: things like that were normal to me, and it was 198 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: more just fun of learning from different people that would 199 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: come through my house. I thought all the people that 200 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: came to my house were way cooler than my actual family, 201 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Like Bill Walt used to stop by my house all 202 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: the time because he lived in San Diego, and I 203 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: thought Bill Walton was the coolest person ever in comparison 204 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: to my family. But everyone revered my grandfather. My grandparents 205 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: lived with me, and so that was just totally normal 206 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: for me to have these kinds of experiences. But looking 207 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: back at it as an adult, I'm like, yeah, that 208 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: was pretty darn cool. And when I started coming out 209 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: on tour and people were asking me about it, I'm like, 210 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: this is not a big deal. These were my aunts 211 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: and uncles, just like everyone else has aunts and uncles 212 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: and my cousins, and my family all in general is 213 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: very competitive. We're a huge family, but were very close knit, 214 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: and we were very quick to kick someone off their pedestal, 215 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: even if they think there's somebody so super important. So 216 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: it's just the way I was raised. Everything was competitive, 217 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: card games, horse everything was gonna be competitive whatever I did. 218 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: Is that. 219 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: I guess one of the questions I want to know is, 220 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: and I think a lot of people want to know 221 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: about you, is because what do you think the most 222 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 4: misunderstood part about you is? Uh, thinking about your the 223 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: way you grew up, So what is some of the. 224 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: I think arrogance is one I hear a lot, and 225 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: also I think Braddy, I think, uh, those are the 226 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: two that I get a lot that I hear a 227 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: lot or I get trolled by or whatever that is 228 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: totally misunderstood. I'm I wouldn't say I'm like fan favorite anywhere, 229 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: but I because that's just not my personality. I even 230 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: inside the close knit circle of the WTA tour with 231 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: the players, like everyone knows I joke and kid and 232 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm probably one of the louder ones in the locker room, 233 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: but and one of the messier ones in the lot 234 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: definitely tests. But as far as like being open and 235 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: boisterous and and and going and talking to everyone, that's 236 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: just not my personality. So I am definitely like run 237 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: of the mill in that area. But I'm definitely not 238 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: the same personality off the court that I am on 239 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: the court. It's just the way I was raised to be. 240 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: A competitor is who you see on the court of 241 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, wanting to hate somebody so much that you 242 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: can beat them. 243 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 5: That's how I think of somebody. 244 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: Whether I do or not, you know, I can play 245 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: one of my good friends like I did Ash And 246 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: I was interfaced from the first game because I wanted 247 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: to make that point that you know, I'm here to 248 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: compete and I'm here to win, whether whoever you are 249 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: across the net. 250 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: So okay, so we talk about the misunderstanding of you 251 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: being braddy or sort of arrogant, et cetera, because you 252 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: do get that lot. 253 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you pretty well. 254 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: So why why why do you think that it's the 255 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: case and tell people what it is about you off 256 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: the court that is different till on the court then arrogance. 257 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: I I think it's more just the way I walk 258 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: and carry myself more so than anything else, which is 259 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: funny because I was how my grandmother taught me how 260 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: to walk. It's more of like a pageantry kind of thing. 261 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: She taught me how to walk in heels. I went 262 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: to Katillion, I did all that sort of thing, you know, 263 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: did the went to church every Sunday, so I knew 264 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: how to dress to the nines and present myself. And 265 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: that's kind of the persona I have when I walk 266 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: into the room. She always said, you know, shoulders back, 267 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: head held high, walk with a presence of you know, 268 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: you're not looking at anybody, but you know, you pick 269 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: who you want to go to. If you see a 270 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: friend and you go there, and people and I walk 271 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: around the court, it's I don't know what whatever word 272 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: you want to use a struttut andrut. Yeah, and it's 273 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: it comes off as arrogant, but it's just the way 274 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: I was taught how to stand up straight, shoulders back 275 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: had held high. That's just what I was taught. And 276 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: it comes off as arrogance, but it's really just not 277 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: It's how I walk. You see me walking a hallway, just. 278 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: The same way and off the court though, So what's 279 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: the difference with you that people that don't see you 280 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: because I don't follow you around or go home with 281 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: you or hang out with your friends? 282 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: What is it about you that they wouldn't know. I'm 283 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: actually a very good listener a lot of my friends. 284 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm the person that they come to to listen. I'm 285 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: not very in your face. I sit there, I'm always 286 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: I give very good hugs. That's what I'm also known for. 287 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 4: And you dons. 288 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: And liftering about ten feet. 289 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: Off the ground. 290 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not. I'm not the same person at all. 291 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm very quiet, introverted. It takes I'm actually very introverted. 292 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: It takes a lot of energy for me to go 293 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: out and to interact with a lot of people, and 294 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm very tired at the end of the day when 295 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: I have to do that, but one on one, I'm fantastic. 296 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: I've relished in those moments of talking one on one 297 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: with somebody and getting to know somebody on that level, 298 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's the best way I can 299 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: articulate myself, is when I'm one on one and I 300 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: have someone's attention and I can see how they're reacting 301 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: to what I'm saying or how they're presenting something towards me. 302 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: But I'm very much a home buddy. I love being 303 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: at home. I love having my siblings around and being 304 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: a younger sibling and getting told what to do. Actually 305 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: it's something. 306 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: That I enjoy. 307 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: But I think those are some of the things that 308 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: off the court aren't seen, is how I mean. A 309 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: lot of people were telling me about my older brother 310 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: who came to the US Open because he was like 311 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: the lot of the girls. I mean is because he 312 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: was so passionate about watching his sister play and compete, 313 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: which is so funny to me, because I mean, that's 314 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: amazing as a younger sister. Because my brother and I 315 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: were teammates always, we grew up playing the sports together. 316 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: We're only a year and a half apart. And for 317 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: me to have my brother like so proud of me 318 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: and pumped and all this and just taking care of me, 319 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: which was really enjoyable. I like to be taken care of. 320 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: I like to be quiet and by myself at all 321 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: at the same time. So it's really a catch twenty 322 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: two with me sometimes on and off the court. 323 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. I don't think people would ever think 324 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: that about you. So I'm glad that you told people that. 325 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Fed Cup. 326 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: I know how much that means to you. But you 327 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: and I were talking yesterday about fed Cup and you have. 328 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: Sort of memories of go through, go through the history. 329 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: Of your fed Cup. 330 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh, the history of the fed Cup. I was started 331 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: from the bottom. I was a fed Cup hitting partner 332 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: my first ever event. I was actually three years I 333 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: was a hitting partner, and I watched peers of mine 334 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: playing and I was still a hitting partner, mainly probably 335 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: the one that everyone would recognize as Melanie Oudin, where 336 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: we were the same age growing up, going through the juniors, 337 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: and I was a hitting partner for her. And my 338 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: first time was in Moscow. I'd never traveled overseas, seriously never. 339 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: My family didn't have the money for me to travel. 340 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: I luckily, I grew up in California where tennis was, 341 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: especially southern California where tennis is very booming. So I 342 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: never played its. I never did any that. I went 343 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: to a regular school. I don't have time and my 344 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: parents didn't have money for me to go anywhere, and 345 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: so I went to Europe for the first time and 346 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: that was a shock. That was a shock to go 347 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: to Moscow and then I finally got my first call 348 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: up onto the team and I was My first tie 349 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: was in San Diego, which was a final, and I 350 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: was on the team and I did not expect to play. 351 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I'd just broken into the top hundred at the time, 352 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: and the team was Bethany. Bethanye and I weren't friends 353 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: like we are now Melanie Liesel Hubert and myself. We 354 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: were a team in San Diego, It's my hometown, and 355 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: I was scared out of my mind playing. 356 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: I was playing. 357 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: We were playing against Italy, which was Panetta, Francesca Skiavoni, 358 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: a little name from Vinci and Irani. There were no 359 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: names at that point. And yeah, they were a great 360 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: doubles team. There were great singles players on their own, 361 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: but Panetta was top notch and Francesca had not won 362 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: the French Open yet, but she was still a heck 363 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: of a player. So the night before I get called 364 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: up by Mary Joe after a dinner and she says, Coco, 365 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you in. Melanie's gonna sit. And Melanie 366 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: had won every gosh darn match we swear on the 367 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: pod and gone got us all the way there, and 368 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, how the heck am I getting thrown in 369 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: right now? 370 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 5: I mean I'd won a few matches in Asia. 371 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: And and propelled myself, but Melanie was higher ranked, and 372 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I can do this. I remember 373 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: going into the locker room. I was second match and 374 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: I was playing Francesca the first day and I was 375 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: getting so nervous. I was getting sick to my stomach 376 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: and it was dry. He being a whole different. Oh, 377 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: I never experienced it. I worked because it was like 378 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: my dream to play for my country. That's what I 379 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: was raised to represent Your country is the biggest thing 380 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: you could ever do, and whatever sport you were playing, 381 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be an Olympian and represent my country. 382 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: So fed Cup is tennis's closest next thing to Olympics, 383 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: and I was out there playing and honestly, I couldn't 384 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: tell you what the score was. I couldn't remember how 385 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: to play tennis. Like it was straight sets. It wasn't bad, 386 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: but I definitely was way out of my league, and 387 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: so I thought, oh, I cried after the match. I 388 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: never really cried after playing matches. And I was for 389 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: sure I. 390 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: Was getting pulled out. 391 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: The next day, We're down to zero, Melanie and Bethany 392 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: were for sure going to go in. 393 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: Mary. 394 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: Joe pulls out Bethany and puts Melanie in. Melanie wins 395 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: her first match, so now it's too on. I'm playing 396 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: again now to keep us now live, and I'm like 397 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: again panicking, and I get spanked by Panetta. I think 398 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: it was like only a single break or something. 399 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: I don't even remember. 400 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: It felt like it felt like it was Oh no, 401 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: it felt bad, and there's I was crying before I 402 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: even shook hands because I was like, I lost the 403 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: tie for Team USA in the final in San Diego, 404 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: in San Diego, in front of all my friends and family, 405 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: and I was just absolute wreck. I drove home with 406 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: my grandfather that night. I even wasn't far away but 407 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: he stayed with me at the hotel to make sure 408 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: I was okay and drove home and I was like 409 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: this was terrible and never playing again. And then my 410 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: next one, I was called randomly to go to Argentina. 411 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: I was last minute. I actually didn't even have any clay. 412 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: Court shoes to go because she didn't expect. I didn't 413 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: expect to play because Venus and Serena were there, and 414 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: I asked Mary Joe. I was like, you know, she's 415 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: my chance. She's like, you're not gonna play, don't worry 416 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: about it. I was like, great, because Dubai and Doha 417 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: next are hard courts. I'm gonna practice on a hard 418 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: court if that's all right, Yeah, it's all good. I 419 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: got thrown in because Serina was sick that morning, and 420 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I got thrown in to play Ramice. I got spanked 421 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: on clay and I. 422 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: Had this auspicious start. 423 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah everything, I'm never gonna win a Magice, like never never. 424 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: I want a dead rubber doubles with Taylor Townsend. It 425 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: doesn't count. But I was like, I'm never playing fed Cup. 426 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: This is the worst experiences I'm having is during fed Cup. 427 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I can't play tennis like it's so 428 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: nerve wracking. I never know what the heck's happening in 429 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: front of me. And then we go to Australia. 430 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna exist an interesting story because Australia ends up 431 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: being quite an amazing place for you. 432 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it does. It keeps coming back for me. So 433 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: we go to Australia and this time I actually know 434 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to be there. I'm on the team. This 435 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: is like, for sure it's happening. I'd made on the Yeah, 436 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't a player, but I would. I knew I 437 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: was gonna play, at least because it was Mass and Keys. 438 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: It was myself, Bethany and Christina McHale. The only reason 439 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if I was gonna play was because 440 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: it was on red clay, and clay is not my 441 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: specialty at all. But Christina is very good on clay. 442 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: Mattie Keys was number one, and Bethany was better on. 443 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 5: Clay than I am still is now. 444 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: So I get there and we're training and practicing, and 445 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm good friends with Bethany already, and Christina and I 446 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: are friends. But as funny as it was, even though 447 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: we travel every week, I didn't know Maddie all that well. 448 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: And there was like moments that you have to do 449 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: during fed Cup. There's you know, kids days, there's meet 450 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: and greets, there's the press days and things like that. 451 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: And you're with each other twenty four secs and you. 452 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: Are with each other. But I hadn't practiced with her, 453 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: even because I was practicing with Bethany. 454 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: I was practicing with Christina. 455 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: And it's like the third or fourth day and we're 456 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: interacting at dinners and things like that, and I didn't 457 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: get Maddie's sarcasm at all, Like I was missing it 458 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: because I had never interacted with her. And I'm like, 459 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: I can't tell she likes me or not honestly like I. 460 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: And it was actually Bethany were at dinner and Bethany's like, 461 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: all right, guys, what's your favorite drink? And Maddie jumps quickly, well, 462 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: first it was Christina, and Christina's like, I don't drink really, 463 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I like a mohito here 464 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: or there. And Bethany's like, nah, it's tequila. Where you're 465 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: drinking tequila when we win this, And Maddie's like, I 466 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: love tequila and I'm like same. So we bonded over 467 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: tequila and then it was great because Maddie uh won 468 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: the first day against Dash. Christina won the first day 469 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: against Sam. So Mary Joe puts me in instead of 470 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: Maddie to play Sam because I had a good record 471 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: against Sam and she wanted me to play Sam under 472 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: pressure to force it. I get. I lose the first set, 473 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: and you haven't won a singles match. I haven't won 474 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: a singles match. I haven't won a live match. Okay, 475 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: and I lose the first set. Bad. I was playing 476 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: bad again, and I'm like it. My fed Cup career 477 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: is absolute crap. It's crap, this is ridiculous. I'm terrible. 478 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: I hate fed Cup, like all this stuff. I win 479 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: the second set, I win the third set. I finally 480 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: won my first ever tie playing fed Cup on. 481 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: A surface I hate. 482 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Against against a great fed Cup player, great clay court player, 483 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: and I mean Sam was like top twenty at the 484 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: time and I was like forty or fifty in the world. 485 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 5: And so we had. 486 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: A great celebration afterwards. Bethany and I played dead rubber doubles. 487 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: We had just won the inning Weells titled together randomly 488 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: when we were playing, they'd see if we could play 489 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: together for the Olympics, and so we go out there 490 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: and we're playing. I sweat my tail off at Brisbane 491 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: in basically indoors in that rafter arena, and I cramped 492 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: serving for the match in doubles, and I hit my 493 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: first serve I land. I go to swing at a forehand, 494 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't really reach it and it's one of those 495 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: bounces before the net. 496 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 5: Bethany turns around looks at me like. 497 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Are you okay. I'm like, I am not okay. I 498 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: am cramping in my calf right now. And I never 499 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: cramped because I just I never imagined that I could cramp, 500 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: especially in doubles. I don't care what I do before, 501 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: but doubles. Bethany's moving like a crazy person at net, 502 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: like she's doing enough of the work for me. I 503 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: don't have to do anything because I'm get a servant 504 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: and make a return every once in a while, and 505 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, bee, we got we gotta hold here, like 506 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: got a home, we got tequila waiting, We have tequila waiting, 507 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: and I cannot play a thirsty here. And somehow we 508 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: hold and I had enough energy to lift her up 509 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: and give her a big old hug, and so I 510 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: hop in the ice bath and everyone's like, Coca, come on, 511 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: we got tequila. We got a party here. When you 512 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: just put tequila, they didn't have it ready. 513 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: No one was prepared. 514 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: They didn't realize the kind of alcoholics they had on 515 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: the fucking tape. Now they're prepared, they have the alcohol 516 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: waiting for us, and it's it's actually a running joke 517 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: that like, especially with Lisa and Kathy on the team 518 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: note and Bethy and I have been a staple on 519 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the team little we were always like, all right, so 520 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: we want some tequila. We want some champagne waiting, like 521 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: none of this like bougie stuff for like the sponsors 522 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: and everything, like the fancy red wines and stuff. No, no, no, 523 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: we want the good stuff. We want to pop a 524 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: bottle of champagne and then get going. And so we 525 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: ended up doing tequila. We gave Christina mchaelor for a shot, 526 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: which she did not enjoy, but she did it. But yeah, 527 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: we had a great time together. We bonded and then 528 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: we became friends ever since. 529 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: And winning it last year, yeah. 530 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 5: That was amazing. 531 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: That was amazing because I had worked so hard personally 532 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: and as a team collectively to get to the final. 533 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I had sacrificed so much in my WTA Season four 534 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Fed Cup, and honestly it was a huge sacrifice, you know, 535 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: in hindsight into this year of how late I had 536 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: to play, how many matches I had to play, and 537 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: how much energy it took out of me to rally 538 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: my team be team leader at some of the instances 539 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: because Bethany, which which. 540 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: You now after telling people that you know, everyone thinks 541 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 4: that you'll brash and you know, arrogant and all that 542 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 4: sort of stuff because of what they see on the court. 543 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 4: But why they don't realize is that you're not really 544 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: that person off the cool No, you're not really the 545 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: Rah rah team person. 546 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: But people make you that. Yeah, major, I get looked 547 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: at to be that person, which is which is okay 548 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: for me. Like I lead by play. That's how I 549 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: like to lead. And I don't mind checking other people 550 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: just because you know, I've been checked myself for my 551 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: antics and things like that, and I I can check 552 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: other people. And you know, at the time in the final, 553 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: it was Sloan, myself, Shelby Rogers and Alison Risk and 554 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: Ali Risk was dog sick and Shelby uh was had 555 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: the bad knee. Now she had to have surgery, and 556 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: so Sloane and I Sloan I hadn't been on a team. 557 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: I'd been on a team with Shelby and Ali Risk. 558 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: So Kathy was making it a big point that like, hey, Coco, 559 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: like we need to have Sloan be part of the 560 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: team and everything like that. And Sloan's great in just 561 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: being able to get get in and but you know, 562 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: it's not always receptive, especially when you're texting and trying 563 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: to figure out the stupid things that fedcop comes along 564 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: with what what's everyone gonna wear for the official dinner? 565 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, who wants to hit what times? You know, 566 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: just dumb things, Yeah, don't matter. But some people are like, oh, 567 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: this is really important. It's like guys like who gives 568 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: a crap? Like for me, I'm super southern California, super 569 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: laid back, like whatever, I'll take the crappy time at 570 00:27:59,400 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: eight am. 571 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 5: It's fine. 572 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: I I'll take a nap like it's not a big deal. 573 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: And so it was it was more tough for me 574 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: to be like, all right, Sloan, I know you've had 575 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: a great US Open, a great time, but you really, 576 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: Ali and Shelby need to see that you're in this 577 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: for team, and Kathy as well needs to see it. 578 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: And so I talked with her over the phone when 579 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: I was actually in London before the tie, before we 580 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: saw each other in China, just you know, kind of 581 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: because i'd been getting messages from the other two girls 582 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: and Kathy had I heard from Sloan and things like that, 583 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I haven't heard from Sloan, but honestly, 584 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: like I've been playing and traveling and it's not like 585 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: I text Sloan every day. So I called her up 586 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: and she's like, honestly, Kogo, I've turned my phone off 587 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: since the US Open because everyone's just like blasting me 588 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: with messages. I'm like, cool, just like send the girls 589 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: like aet thumbs up, like that's all they need to 590 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: make sure you're like aware of what they're doing. And 591 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: she was super receptive and was great and it was 592 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: a great tie together as a team and celebrated afterwards. Uh. 593 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: Jenny Brady was there as team captain cheerleader. She actually 594 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: got smashed way before the press conference was even done, 595 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: and we have videos of us spraying champagne in the 596 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: locker room, and my trophy ended up being the trophy 597 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: that everyone was doing the chalice out of, Like it 598 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: was a communal chalice of drinking out of and it's 599 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: it was the stickiest thing I got back when I 600 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: like unpacked my suitcase, my trophy was a mess, and 601 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh what my trophy had to be the 602 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: one because she was. 603 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: You held the team together through thick and thin. 604 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, try. I went at it again this year 605 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: and we're in the finals. Yeah, I don't know, dynasty again. 606 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: You know, Well, maybe it's your family upbringing as well 607 00:29:53,280 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 4: that my few country is so important. Speaking of Australia, 608 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna go back to that because now you have 609 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: Pat Cash as your coach. 610 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: Yeah he's an assy. 611 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, bash body your double's Patna, who's an assy? 612 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 613 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: What's up with the Australian affiliation here? And and secondly, 614 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: I want you to talk a little bit about your 615 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: role with Ash and the Doubles and how much it 616 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: meant to you. Congratulations for winning the USA. 617 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 5: Oh, thank you, thank you. 618 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: Well, the Australian connection was totally random. I had the 619 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: only time I had ever met Pat before is I 620 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: did an exhibition at Indian Well's John McEnroe's charity event 621 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: and it was like a World Team Tennis deal. So 622 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: that was the only time I met Patt and we 623 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: actually had a hit the next day and I never 624 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: saw him again. And I was at the French Open, 625 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: not last yeah, it was last year. Last year French Open, 626 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: and the coach I was working with at the time, 627 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: Craig Carden, and I stopped right at French Open. I 628 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: lost my singles. I was still in in doubles and mix, 629 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: but we stopped it was it had run its course 630 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: and we both wanted different things and we're we're still 631 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: friendly now and so I was basically ready to get 632 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: out of Europe. Yeah, essentially, I mean that happens. It. 633 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: We had worked together for two years and it was 634 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: stale for both of us. There were some weeks where 635 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: I was super receptive. There was other weeks where he 636 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: wasn't full on because you know, you travel every week, 637 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just it's it gets tough and if 638 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to do it anymore, you don't want 639 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: to do it, and neither of us did. So it 640 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: worked out for the better, and I'm like, I'm out 641 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: of here. I'm out of the French. I'm going home 642 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: for some TLC because I just Craig was, you know, 643 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: super I was super close with Craig and I just 644 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: needed some TLC with my mom and my family, and 645 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: so I wasn't planning on going home after the French. 646 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: I was supposed to stay in Europe. I just bolted. 647 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: I was out of there. 648 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: I went here. 649 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: I do but it was kind of supid, but it 650 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: was well worth it. I was only home for three days. 651 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: Three days before I was back on a flight back 652 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: to Europe, and I get a call from my agent 653 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: day one and they're like, Okay, what are you going 654 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: to do? And I'm like, I'm just gonna play the 655 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: rest of the Europe Grass Court season by myself. I 656 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: don't need to mean curious whatever, like I don't, I 657 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: don't care, I don't need it, Like I can't deal 658 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: with this. I'm I'm off on my own anyway. And 659 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: they're like, that's that's a terrible decision. I'm going to 660 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: give you some options. So they gave me like three 661 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: coaches options and Pat's name was one of them. And 662 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I was like it's Pat, like, why would he be 663 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: interested in coaching you know, me one, but also a 664 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: female player two? Because he's such a legend in a 665 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: men's game, you know, it's it's like a weird concept. 666 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: And I knew he had coached other players before and 667 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: they were all men, Rasetski and stuff like that. So 668 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: he hasn't coached in a while. And so I said, well, 669 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: if Pat's interested, like, I love his number, and I'll 670 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: give him a call. So this is day two. Now 671 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: it's countdown. I have only one more date left at home. 672 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: So I have a phone call with Pat. And the 673 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: second day he's in London and I call him up 674 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit and he's like, I'm gonna 675 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 1: call you tomorrow. I'm like, cool, I'm gonna be at 676 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: the airport coming back to Europe. We had even decided 677 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: to work together. So I was at the airport in 678 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: San Diego and I get a call back and he's like, 679 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't think Wimbledon's enough time. 680 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: I think we gotta work. If you're all in, we're 681 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna finish out the year together and I 682 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: need your commitment to that. And I was hesitant because 683 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know you, Like I don't 684 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: know how you talk when you're on the court and 685 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: personality off the court, because you got to spend it 686 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: all the time with this person and you don't know 687 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: me at all. 688 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 4: So I was you might hype me up. 689 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that happened. So I was like, I 690 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: just was like, basically, screw it, let's go, Like, yeah, 691 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: let's do it. We'll go to USO. And that was 692 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: our end date. And so first tournament we play, I 693 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: had match points against Witthoff and her Togg and Bosh. 694 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: First round. 695 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 5: I was defending champion. 696 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: I lost first round. First start with Pat and I 697 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: had and we went straight out to the practice court afterwards, 698 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: trained for two more hours out there on the practice court, 699 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: and then we were just breaking down technique technique technique 700 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: of every stroke of my game and simplifying and and 701 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: doing different things and and working on obviously grass court stuff, 702 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: the balls, transition slice and yeah. Then I he couldn't 703 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: come to Birmingham, so I was solo Birmingham because he 704 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: was doing commentary for Queens and I made quarters there 705 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: and then I make quarters of Wimbledon. I lose to Magdalena, 706 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: and it was It was such a hurting loss for 707 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: me because I lost because I wasn't mentally prepared, and 708 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: it shell shocked me to the point where I was like, 709 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't ever want to feel like this ever again. 710 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: Where mentally like I always had good days, bad days 711 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: in between days, but I never were because I saw you. 712 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: I think I saw you the next day. I see 713 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: you the next day to see I was there. Oh 714 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: my god, I was there the final. Yeah, but you. 715 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 4: Said to me your woods were what do you do 716 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 4: when you just choke? Yeah, I mean you admitted that. 717 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: I can just I completely, for lack of a better term, 718 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: ship in the bed, I completely did. I was my 719 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: moment I next round. I believe I was gonna play Mugarusa. 720 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: Did you feel pressure because you'd made the Semis the Aussie? No, 721 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: I hear is that right? Yes? I made Semis? I 722 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: lost a Venus. I felt pressure because I knew I 723 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: could make the final there because I had a good 724 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: record against Mugarusa. Was on grass Don't look ahead one. 725 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 5: But I ended up hiring a mental coach after that. 726 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: Pat recommended a guy's name's Don McPherson and still work 727 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: with him now, and so I was there and also 728 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: another pouring salt in the wound. Pat made me stay 729 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: in London to the end of the tournament practice, where 730 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: normally my emma was like, peace, I'm out of here. 731 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 5: I'm going back to California. 732 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm parking myself on the beach and you won't see 733 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: me for like another week. When I practiced two days before, 734 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: I play a World Team Tennis match and then I 735 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: go play Stanford and that's that's usually. 736 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 5: What I end up doing. 737 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: And He's like, I was on the phone, you know, 738 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: with my Mom's like asking me because I called my 739 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: mom and she's like, what's what are you gonna come home? 740 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm gonna look at Flay tomorrow. And 741 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: Pat's like, no, you're not, You're here. I remember, Oh god. 742 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: We worked on simplifying the serf, simplifying the forehand, simplifying 743 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: the backhand, ball toss of the serf, and all sorts 744 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: of things that can't even keep track. And he basically 745 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: stripped my game down from A to B, which I 746 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: hadn't done since I created my game and created my technique. 747 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 4: How much does it do you think it changes throughout 748 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 4: a career of a player. 749 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: I think it changes constantly, because if you're not evolving, 750 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: you're you're staying still, and people are new players are 751 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: coming in, new styles of game are coming in. I mean, 752 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: you can't say that ten years ago. The same style 753 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: of play is being played now, even on the Women's Tour. 754 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 5: It's just different. 755 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: So I'd never had I created my technique and I 756 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: had the same technique since I started playing tennis. 757 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 5: No one had ever touched anything that I've that have done. 758 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: Tried to control you, and sometimes most of the time 759 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: in different ways, and I'd never had that. So I 760 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: went home for two days after the finals of Wimbledon, 761 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: and Pat joined me two days later and we trained 762 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: at my house and and everything, and then we went 763 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: to Stanford and I made the finals of Stanford and 764 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: lost some Mattie Keys, and then we went to Montreal 765 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: and I was zomped. I was zonedition, yeah, and it 766 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: was tough transition. I was gonna pull out if the 767 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: fine wasn't so crazy big, because I knew I was 768 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: a zombed and I wasn't going to be able to 769 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: play to what I wanted to play, which is always 770 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: hard for an athlete. 771 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 5: When you want to play. 772 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: Stage how to manage playing a lot of matches because 773 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 4: you really hadn't hadn't had that consistency. 774 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: And also people forget how much of a mental toll 775 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: it is to be changing technique. You know, you you're 776 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: really good one day and then the next day your crap, 777 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: and you're like, why didn't I just go Why can't 778 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: I just make like two balls in a row like 779 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: things like that, And so the whole thing was just like, 780 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: then you make it to a final. I made finals 781 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: of singles and doubles that week. I won the doubles 782 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: and I lost them in the finals of singles. So 783 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I had tons of matches, lost to Aga, who was 784 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: like one of the toughest people you could play in 785 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: a first round and be mentally like, I'm here to play. 786 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: So I last there. 787 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 5: I go to Cincinnati. 788 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: After that, I'd actually went to New York for a 789 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: couple of days. I have some friends in New York 790 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: and hung out and kind of just like put the 791 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: tennis rackets away for like three days before going to Cincinnati, 792 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: and I'm playing Maddie Keys again. First round, tough three 793 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: center but it was a good match, and I went 794 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: to New York afterwards trained in the Hampton's for a 795 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: little bit, actually hit with Austin Panko a ton there. 796 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: She was also there. 797 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 4: And how much did like all the transitional work change, 798 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: working on the technique mentally now you start to feel 799 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 4: like you want the best plays in the world, which 800 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 4: you were. Yeah, you go into the Open. It was 801 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 4: how special was that day with the four of you, 802 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 4: four Americans in the semis of the US Open? And 803 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 4: what do you take from that? It was tournament. 804 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: It was actually in the moment not special because I 805 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: didn't realize, you know, you're so focused on yourself when 806 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: you're playing, and I was like, who cares? But then 807 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: afterwards you're like, holy crap, that. 808 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 5: Was a huge, big deal. 809 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, being an American, all four of us playing 810 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: for a Grand Slam title. There's gonna be an American guaranteed, 811 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: there hasn't That hasn't happened since like the seventies, And 812 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: and it was showing kind of there was a moment 813 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: of showing like the new guard of American tennis versus 814 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: the old guard of Venus, which you know, for players 815 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: to compete against Venus or Serena for a Grand Slam title. 816 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: That's like you're playing against the greatest of all times 817 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: for a Grand Slam title. These are people you watched 818 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: growing up. And I played. 819 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 5: Venus at Australian Semis. 820 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: But I had my moment and I got spanked again 821 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: in the Semis by Mattie Keys, and Maddie played you. 822 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 4: Were like Kryptonide and Sloan's Madison's Kryptonide. 823 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: It was first time I'd ever played Madison was at 824 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: Stanford and then we played each other three times in 825 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, and I was like, gosh, I'm gonna 826 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 1: get I was convinced. I was like, third time's charm, 827 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get her this time. Like I was close 828 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: the second time for sure. The third time she played 829 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: lights out. She played unbelievable and you know, it was 830 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,959 Speaker 1: another learning curve. But I was like, Okay, well, now 831 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: now we have fed Cup to look forward to. And 832 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: I was super pumped to get going to get to 833 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: Fed Cup. And Pat informed me that I was probably 834 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: gonna be taken out of my doubles retirement that I 835 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: had self put myself in because he was forcing me 836 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: to play doubles like in places, and it wasn't with 837 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: people I didn't want to play with, like I played 838 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: with Abby Spears Is one of my good friends. 839 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 2: We grew up together and see you always. 840 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: I remember I like playing mix better a little bit 841 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: much pressure. 842 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 4: But you also told me how it was difficult playing 843 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 4: with Martina Hingis when he when Craig made you play, 844 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: even though it was good for you, it was difficult 845 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 4: because you had a lot of pressure on you because 846 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 4: she has such a good doubles player and she was 847 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 4: playing doubles only, and it didn't feel good for you 848 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: because if you were tired and didn't want to play, 849 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 4: you felt obligated to still play and still do well 850 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 4: with her. 851 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: So what's the difference. And also she was I was 852 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: following up her in Sonia's incredible couple of years. So 853 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: every time I lost, it was like, oh my fault 854 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: because it's a new partner this and that. Yeah, for 855 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: probably for sure, And so I was like, I don't 856 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: need this, like I'm playing well on singles, like I 857 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: just want to focus on singles, And so that's what 858 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: I decided to do. And I also had a bet 859 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: with Craig that if I ever won a doubles Grand 860 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: Slam title, I could officially retire, or if I made 861 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: final four of every Grand Slam, which on your French 862 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: is the only one that's missing, if I made final 863 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: eight club. 864 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: So you've now won the US Open. So what is 865 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 4: it about Ash and what makes you guys click on 866 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 4: the court and the personality. 867 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: I actually was. I've teased her about this a couple 868 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: of times. Is first of all, she's pulled me out 869 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: of doubles retirement. Yeah one, And I'm like, not many 870 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: people could have done that. And I had no idea 871 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: who you were. Like, obviously I know who Ash Party is, 872 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: but I was like, I had never spoken to her really. 873 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 4: Because you're both now we know she's quite on coote 874 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 4: and off yeah, but you are definitely quite as well 875 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 4: off course. 876 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we jab each other a lot. We 877 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: have actually very similar personalities in our banter and humor. 878 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: But we play at Indian Wells as the first one 879 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: because I was sick in Australia and ties and had 880 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: as coach talked to Pat asking if I was even 881 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: interesting and playing and playing and playing doubles, and I'm like, 882 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: and Pat's answered for me because I was sick with 883 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: the flu, and plus my answer would have been no. 884 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: And so we go to Indian Wells and she she 885 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: has her mom there with her and it's my first 886 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: tournament since I was sick, and uh, anyone sorry Australia 887 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: and warming up and we actually losing a tie breaker 888 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: like super close, like ten six ten eight something super 889 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: breaker and I'm like, you know, we were almost there, 890 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: like we were, we were playing some really good points, 891 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: but we didn't. I didn't know her signals. I didn't 892 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: and we never had a call when she came when 893 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: she was playing with Casey, who does way different things 894 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: than I'm capable of doing. And you know, she hash 895 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you can just love this return. I'm like, what, dude, 896 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't love returns. I hit through a return. I'll 897 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: try and love a return, but it's probably have you hit. 898 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: I don't think I have, nor has that ever been 899 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: my first idea? Well maybe this year I'll love well 900 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: this turnament. I were playing doubles, I could love my 901 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: first return. I played the duke side, so the Lisa 902 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: Raymond Bok Police, it's got to teach me that. And 903 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 1: then we go to Miami and I'm having a crap 904 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: time in singles. I'm having a crap time off the court. 905 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: My you know, personal life is like I really was 906 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: like a mess, a mess. I hated the world, I 907 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: hated tennis, and I was still beat up from last year. 908 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: I played till November fourteenth, winning the Fed Cup, was 909 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: getting over the flu after Australia, and I was just 910 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: in Miami and I'm like, I hate this. I hate 911 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,959 Speaker 1: warming up, I hate going through stretches life. Yeah, and 912 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: here I am playing freaking doubles with that. 913 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 4: Isn't it funny? 914 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: Though? Can I just stop you there? 915 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: Isn't it funny that people don't realize that tennis players 916 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 4: actually have normal lives I have to deal with. 917 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get done, so you have your parents mad 918 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 1: at you, you have your siblings mad at you. You 919 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: basically you know, something broke in the house and you're like, god, 920 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: I have to pay for all this, you know, whatever 921 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: it may be. 922 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 4: People don't realize it about you. Yeah right, They just think, oh, 923 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 4: there's tough color coat. 924 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: What's your problem? Why she breaking her tenth records? Yeah? Yeah, 925 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: well it's few and far between, but I was ash 926 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: called me out on how many I claimed I broke 927 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 1: during the US Open, But I'll tell that when we're 928 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: done with Miami. So we played Miami and we play 929 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: bablist Mandanovich first round and we win that in a buster, 930 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: and then the next round we roll through. We roll 931 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: through the next couple of rounds and we're playing Macarova 932 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: as Nina, who are the best double team at the time, 933 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: and we lose the first set and I'm thinking, I'm like, God, 934 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: how do you how do you beat these guys because 935 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: they're so solid off the baseline and. 936 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 5: They returned so well. 937 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: Macarov is lefty service, it's tricky. She places it well, 938 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: as Nina is confident at the net, so it's hard 939 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: if you hit a crummy return, she'll she does the 940 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: right things up at the net, and we sneak out 941 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: the second set and we're in the super breaker, and 942 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: that was That was kind of the moment where I 943 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: felt like I picked ash up with my energy and 944 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: I could feel It's funny when you're you're in a 945 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: partnership and you feel when someone's nervous, or you feel 946 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: when they're not feeling their best or when they're drived up, 947 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: and that they pick you up also and I could 948 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: feel I'm like, she's not confident. 949 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 5: Why is she not confident? 950 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: We're going into a buster. This is when you need 951 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: to puff your chest out and your own cocot. 952 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 4: It's the same thing as what I noticed in New York. 953 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: And that was the first moment where I'm like, I 954 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: got a kick her in the ass. And that was 955 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: kind of like when I was like when she I guess, 956 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: deem me team leader of the team, because at that 957 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: point we were even. She actually was leading me a 958 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: couple of times because I was still learning from her. 959 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: I had taken a year off in double so it's. 960 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 4: Learning positioning and is it more important and seeing is 961 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 4: it more important? Because I felt like that was the 962 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 4: same with the US Open, and I actually commentated your 963 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 4: match and one of the things that I said was 964 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 4: that I think one of the things that stopped Casey 965 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 4: and Ash winning Grand Slams, even though they were in 966 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 4: a number of finals, I know, was that they that 967 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 4: there was not a real true team leader in the 968 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 4: most important times in the finals. And I said, I 969 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 4: think the difference maker here will just be your personality, 970 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 4: not that you were better than Casey, not the Casey 971 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 4: was better than you, or Ash was better than you. 972 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 4: Whatever it is that doubles is really truly a matter 973 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 4: of somebody has to lead sometimes and it doesn't mean 974 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 4: they're better. 975 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: No, and it changes captain. 976 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 4: Or the team leader of my teams. I certainly wasn't 977 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 4: the best player at Lisa will tell you that she. 978 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: Was the best player. 979 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 5: No, it actually changes. 980 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: But that was a joke, I'll ask Lisa. But it's 981 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: it actually changes for us a couple of times, and 982 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: not in a way of like cause I get two hypes. 983 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: I was saying. Lisa was like Ash, and I was like, 984 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: and Ash will be like, okay, rein it in, like 985 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: I'll you know, there's moments where you pick a fight 986 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: over something and she just knocks me. It's like shut 987 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: it down, and I'm all right, yeah, my bad. Or 988 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: like you saw it at the US Open. One missed 989 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: the overhead and I snapped the racket. I came back 990 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: and I apologized to Ash because I was like, that's 991 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: my bad, Like I let my temper slip and my 992 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: emotions slip, like I'm here for you again, and that's 993 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 1: what I do well. With Ashes. I know that she's 994 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna be the utmost professional for me, and that gets 995 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: me to be the utmost professional for her. And that 996 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: was funny when you asked the question when we walked 997 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 1: out for the US opened in the final of question 998 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: of who's the team leader of your team? And she's 999 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: like cocoa, and I was like, I wouldn't have said that, 1000 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: but like I would have been. 1001 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 4: Like, god, I didn't mean to make you think think 1002 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 4: that's the final. 1003 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: No. No, I would have been like equal, but maybe 1004 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: me sometimes because you know I come with the fire 1005 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: quicker and you know Ash has her own quiet fire, 1006 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: and our back and forth conversations is a lot of 1007 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: curse words and banter and like, you know, I. 1008 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 4: What's the first uzzie word that comes to mind when 1009 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 4: you think? 1010 00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: Right? 1011 00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 5: Oh right? 1012 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: I think that she always says that one. But it's 1013 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: like it's I'm always a positive teammate because Ash sometimes 1014 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: gets down on herself and I'm never like down openly 1015 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: because I've played team sports, so I'm like, okay, like 1016 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: I have my mind. Did you pick tennis because I 1017 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: had a bad basketball season with a bunch of girls 1018 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: that were too catty, and I'm like, I don't need this. 1019 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 5: I can go play tennis. 1020 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: Really that's it. I didn't like tennis all that much. 1021 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: I like basketball way better. 1022 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 4: So you if you, which is probably why you play 1023 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 4: it well on a team sport, because ultimately you wanted 1024 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 4: to be on a team. 1025 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't handle you're saying. Could. I grew up 1026 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: with guys, so the girl cattiness I still don't get 1027 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: to this day. I grew up with my brother all 1028 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 1: his friends, all older guys are a year and a 1029 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: half older, two years. And if I wasn't good enough, 1030 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: I didn't play. Did you think about it going to college? 1031 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 3: No? 1032 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 1: Never. 1033 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 5: I was never that into school. 1034 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: And if I was gonna go into school like it'd be. 1035 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 5: For studying and learning, and I didn't care. 1036 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: I didn't care about I mean, I knew the quota 1037 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: I had to make at school, which was I was 1038 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: only allowed two bees and that was it. 1039 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 5: Everything else had to be a's. But other than that, 1040 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 5: I didn't care. 1041 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 4: So that's interesting because I'd been wanting to be on 1042 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 4: a team. That would have been the one tennis experience 1043 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 4: other than. 1044 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: I actually played tennis for my high school. Oh there 1045 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: you go. 1046 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you had that experience. 1047 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: I have a letterman jacket. I played varsity. 1048 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 4: Who would have thought, all right, so a couple more 1049 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 4: because you've been awesome. But quick, quick, quick, five question 1050 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 4: New York or Kelly. 1051 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 5: Which was California? California? 1052 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, good, good good. 1053 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: Do you feel with the results you've had over the 1054 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: last couple of years. 1055 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 4: In the semis of a couple of Grand Slams? 1056 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: Now, do you feel a pressure to win one? 1057 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 4: Do you feel like because I've always said that tennis 1058 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 4: now has become a marathon rather than a sprint, Like 1059 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 4: if you're not winning a Slam by twenty two to 1060 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 4: twenty three, you know, back fifteen years ago, you like 1061 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 4: you're getting. 1062 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: Close to thirty, Like it's time to when I turned 1063 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: pro at sixteen. If I wasn't, that was when people 1064 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: were winning Grand Slams at eighteen nineteen. 1065 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think that that has changed now? It's 1066 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 4: particularly good for you because I always said that you. 1067 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 4: I always felt that you were always going to be 1068 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 4: better older, because I feel like you're an aw colt player. 1069 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 4: I feel like you can come into the ned, I 1070 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 4: feel like you can play from anywhere in the court. 1071 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 4: But I also felt like you had to learn a 1072 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 4: lot how to play. 1073 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not a tennis player. 1074 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 5: I was just an athlete. 1075 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: You were a great athlete. Shit out of the ball. 1076 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know any point construction. I didn't know any 1077 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 1: of that until about first time I ever learned about 1078 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: point construction was actually I was twenty one. I was Marshak, 1079 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: who was a Polish coach I was working with, was 1080 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: the first person that gave me point construction of how 1081 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: to play a point, you know, watching the game, score 1082 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Otherwise I just played how I felt. 1083 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 4: So do you feel like do you feel like actually 1084 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 4: winning the doubles in New York and having that experience 1085 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 4: in front of a packed house? 1086 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: It was packed. 1087 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 4: It actually was packed, which was a because they came 1088 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 4: in for the men's singles and you guys played so 1089 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 4: long you went into the. 1090 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: I know it was great too because the USCA let 1091 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: the lower ball film and talk to me because you know, 1092 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: this is part of it. 1093 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 4: You didn't actually get to do a winner's speech. No, 1094 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 4: they rushed you off because of television. You were backed 1095 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 4: up into the men's singles final. 1096 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Coco, here it is. 1097 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 4: Here's your moment, mate, What would you have said if 1098 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 4: you've got the mic that day? 1099 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: First, can I just say, it's pretty fucking. 1100 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 4: You didn't get that chance. 1101 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. It was an amazing moment of 1102 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: a player's careers. And may it only happen once, you know, 1103 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: hopefully not, that's not hopefully not. But well, first I 1104 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 1: would have cried because it was super emotional. I wasn't 1105 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: even gonna play the US Open. I was going to 1106 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: call it a year because of my ankle. That's right, 1107 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: your ankle. Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't gonna play. I 1108 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: told Ash at Stanford, I'm like, I'm probably not going 1109 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 1: to play the US Open. You might as well, you know, 1110 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: find somebody else to play with. And she was playing 1111 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: with Demi a little bit and doing well and doing well. 1112 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: They want like I kept giving her crap, like I'm 1113 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: side chick now, and so I would. I would have 1114 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: probably cried because it was such an unexpected victory in 1115 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: the physical state I was in, the tennis shape I 1116 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: was in, and I lost first round a syl and 1117 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: I had only been pain free for about two days 1118 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: before that first round singles. I was still playing with 1119 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: pain all the way till then I had to get 1120 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 1: an injection into my foot. I mean it was. It 1121 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: was it's still an uphill battle. It still gets it's 1122 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: still gets swollen up every after every practice, every training session, 1123 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: every match. So I would have I would have thanked, 1124 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, the whole obviously crowd because it was so packed. 1125 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: It was really electrifying. And I only experienced that one 1126 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: other time as a smaller scale at ending wells with 1127 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: Bethany when Bethany and I won, and I would have 1128 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,280 Speaker 1: first thanked them, and then I would have obviously thanked 1129 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: my team with Pat and Scott and everyone behind the scenes, 1130 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 1: because you know, Pat and I were having a rough 1131 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: patch from basically the grass play and grass court season 1132 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: because I was uninterested in tennis at the time still, 1133 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 1: and then I got injured and I was uninterested to 1134 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: take care again. I was taking care of myself, but 1135 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: I was already ready to say protected ranking, I'm not 1136 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: playing again. And then when I found out it would 1137 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: cost me Australia because I needed more time than the 1138 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: three weeks I had to get ready for the US Open, 1139 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: and so you wanted to shut it down. I wanted 1140 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 1: to shut it down, but you had to be off 1141 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: longer than that. Yeah, your protected ranking, Yes, So then 1142 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, my first Grand Slam's 1143 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: gonna be the French open kill me. That was honestly 1144 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 1: what I thought. I'm like, I called it pat up. 1145 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'm booking you a flight. We're gonna 1146 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: try and play Cincinnati. So Pat and I kind of, 1147 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, came back together in a mutual understanding, and 1148 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: I rededicated myself to twenty nineteen, and that was what 1149 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm still training for is twenty nineteen, and you know, 1150 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 1: ranking be what it is. I'm gonna get my ankle. Wait, 1151 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm going you're still in your speech. Oh yeah, well 1152 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm in my speech. So I want to think, Pat, 1153 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: I want to thank Scott, my physio who was there, 1154 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: Julian who was not there, who's been my physio all year, 1155 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 1: and everyone, uh doctor Ferkele for getting my ankle better 1156 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: in time, and most importantly my partner Ash for pulling 1157 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: me out of Double's retirement and also getting me my 1158 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: first Grand Slam out of two tries, which was less 1159 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 1: than her four. I had to throw it a little 1160 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: jab into there. 1161 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry that you didn't get that opportunity to 1162 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 4: have that speech. 1163 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe if we play in Australia. The Aussies will 1164 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: do us better than the Americans can. 1165 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 4: Guarantee that you will get your speech and your time 1166 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 4: in Australia. 1167 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: I told Ash I'm gonna come to Brisbane afterwards and 1168 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: we're going to play golf once we're both done with it. 1169 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be who's the better golfer. 1170 00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. 1171 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,760 Speaker 1: She's pretty good. Yeah, I told her if we make Singapore, 1172 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna go play golf more than we're going to 1173 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: go play tennis. 1174 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 4: Well, geez, we're in Wuhan, We're in the hotel in Wuhan, 1175 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 4: hen and it's into it. So thankfully we're getting to 1176 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 4: the end of this podcast because we've now got the 1177 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 4: music going. But last question, who is your idol aside 1178 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 4: from your family? 1179 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 3: Oh? 1180 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 4: Okay, who is your idol growing up? 1181 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 5: Aside from my family? Because usually my my grandmother was 1182 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 5: my idol. 1183 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: With no family, I know, I would have to say 1184 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: the person I looked up to the most is I 1185 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: liked I was like my kid Michael Jordan. Yeah, okay, 1186 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: it's a good one. And last question, who is the 1187 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: biggest influence in your life? Oh? My mom, hands down, 1188 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: single mother raised me. My biggest influenced person I talk 1189 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: to pretty much every day who I call when I 1190 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: need help. 1191 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 5: And look to for advice. So for sure, my mom and. 1192 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: Oko to finish the year out. 1193 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 4: I know it's been a hard year for you with 1194 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 4: the injuries and you know what happened to you. You 1195 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 4: had an amazing year last year, but this year I 1196 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 4: think winning the US Open doubles is certainly going to 1197 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 4: be Obviously it's. 1198 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: A highlight of your career. 1199 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely, You've had. 1200 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: Amazing results in singles. 1201 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 4: And I've told you this for many years and you 1202 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 4: know this, and you can say this because it's my podcast, 1203 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 4: but I've told you that I believe in you and 1204 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 4: winning your Grand slamon singles. 1205 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: I know that you have the can to get closed. So, 1206 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm twenty nineteen. I'm training for twenty nineteen. 1207 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 4: To give you hope that people like Kerber and Pinetta 1208 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 4: and Skivoni and Lina and all these players one Grand 1209 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 4: slams at twenty nine thirty, to give you the impotence 1210 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,919 Speaker 4: to think that you've got tons of time. 1211 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: I never thought about each thing, but sure I never 1212 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: even thought about it. I'm telling you Okay, then yes, 1213 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: trust me, I will look at them for motivation that 1214 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 1: I can still do it. 1215 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:57,919 Speaker 5: If I'm playing Times at. 1216 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 4: Thirty, it will be, It will be all right, Coka, 1217 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 4: thanks for joining me today. I hope everybody out there 1218 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 4: understands that Coco might be that cocky, brazen sort of 1219 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 4: person on the court, but like she said to me 1220 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 4: on the court one time, you got to fake it 1221 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 4: till you make it, and she's the queen of that 1222 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 4: because she's actually a very different person off the court. 1223 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 4: So I hope everybody enjoyed today. So thanks Coco, thanks 1224 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 4: for being man, and good luck this week. 1225 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 3: Thank you, and that's it for this episode of the 1226 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 3: Racket Magazine podcast. 1227 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 5: Thanks for listening. 1228 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: Our host is Renee Stubbs. 1229 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 3: Our co host and producer is me Keaitlin Thompson. Music 1230 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 3: by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. 1231 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: Thanks to Tim Or, Jerry, Taylor Dalton and the team 1232 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: at Aircast. 1233 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 3: Find us at racketmag dot com, slash podcast, and subscribe 1234 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 5: To us at any of your favorite podcatchers.