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Speaker 1: everyone who puts one out, including Phil. So I'll go

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Speaker 1: look at this, and I'm gonna have to get back

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Speaker 1: to you on this. There was one other question kind

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Swamp from Pembrooke Primes, Florida. Pembrooke Pines, Florida.

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Speaker 1: My bad, Will we see any team win a championship

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Speaker 1: solely relying on the portal not top twenty or so

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Speaker 1: in high school recruiting. No, you will not, is my guess. However,

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Speaker 1: if you did, it would be someone that finishes just

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Speaker 1: one to twenty five range, and they went and just

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Speaker 1: dropped two million dollars on a quarterback. That could happen theoretically,

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Speaker 1: but keep in mind this is the age of the

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Speaker 1: expanded playoff where you can't get hot in a conference

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Speaker 1: and then ambush someone in a semi final game and

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Speaker 1: like you're one went away from taking the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: You've got to make it through multiple elite rosters in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, not to mention your own regular season schedule.

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Speaker 1: So it's unlikely, but it could happen. Cooper from pel City,

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Speaker 1: Alabama asked me, can you give your opinion on SEC

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Speaker 1: Mike's take that Hugh Freeze and his roster building strategy

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Speaker 1: on the Three Man Front show, which is inmanating out

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Speaker 1: of Birmingham, Alabama, every day. I've been on that show

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Speaker 1: several times. I listened to the take The take is

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Speaker 1: so controversial to me that I'm going to do this

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Show because I want you to hear

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Speaker 1: the audio and I don't even have an editing team

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Speaker 1: here where I'm recording, so I want you to hear

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Speaker 1: that audio. So Cooper bookmarking this right now, I Am

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Speaker 1: going to use this on Sunday Night's show. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: I do have thoughts on it, yes, and spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: I do disagree. Next up, Cyclone scoee he has the

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Speaker 1: crying emojis with good reason. He said, whatever happened to

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Speaker 1: your national pressure campaign to get the old Iowa State

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Speaker 1: logos back? Yes? Yes, now more than ever we need this.

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Speaker 1: As we know it is a documented, scientific fact that

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Speaker 1: Iowa State has the best color scheme in college football,

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Speaker 1: they have the formerly best mascot in college football, and

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Speaker 1: they also have a tornado that they can put the

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Speaker 1: mascot in somewhere along the way. I'm not hate on anyone.

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Speaker 1: Smart people do casual things all the time. Casual people

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Speaker 1: rarely do smart things. However, somebody who is smart at

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Speaker 1: Iowa State did a casual thing and they decided they

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Speaker 1: wanted to go with the block eye logo. And they

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Speaker 1: wanted to also sign off on going with these all

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Speaker 1: black or all white jersey concepts. And it's just like

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Speaker 1: college football. It's a microcosm. College football looks around and says, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got the best sport in the world. We play

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Speaker 1: games on Saturdays all year. Let's have a Monday national

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Speaker 1: title game. Yeah, great, awesome, grand, wonderful college football. We've

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Speaker 1: got the best in stadium environments of any sport on

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Speaker 1: the face of the earth. What do we want to do.

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Speaker 1: Let's play more neutral site games. Yeah awesome. Well at

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Speaker 1: Iowa State, I mean, they had a bird wrapped up

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Speaker 1: in a tornado as their logo. I'm not even kidding

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Speaker 1: that was their logo. And someone decided, no, let's go minimalist.

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Speaker 1: Let's just look at like everyone else. Let's put a

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Speaker 1: block eye Iowa State. Great, it looks much better on letterhead.

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Speaker 1: Ye that it's also boring. It's boring. I love Iowa State,

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Speaker 1: and it's boring. And then this week that came out

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Speaker 1: with the fact that they're going to have a whiteout

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Speaker 1: jersey this year. You have got red and yellow as

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Speaker 1: your color scheme. It is the best combination of colors

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Speaker 1: God has ever created. Look at the color wheel, find

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Speaker 1: me a better one. You can't if you don't believe me.

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Speaker 1: Ask Hulk Hogan in the entire decade of the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 1: So what do you do? You go wide out on

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Speaker 1: after after all that we've been through, I think I

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Speaker 1: deserve more, and I think the fan base deserves more.

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Speaker 1: And I've said all I want to say on this matter.

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Speaker 1: Hawk Tua. Next up, TJ from Moron Mountain. Good people

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Speaker 1: on Moron Mountain. He said, can you expound on your

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Speaker 1: water gift from Twitter this week in relation to the ACC. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the ACC's kind of sort of screwed. I

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Speaker 1: think the future of the conference will look radically different

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Speaker 1: than it does now. There are powerful entities that are

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Speaker 1: well motivated and well financially backed that want out, in

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Speaker 1: other words, f SE, and they're not alone. I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to get out. I put that gift out

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Speaker 1: earlier this week because I have not talked about this publicly.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I have acquaintances, shall we say, I

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Speaker 1: have contacts in the legal community. These are not contacts

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Speaker 1: I would normally have. I came about these contacts in

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Speaker 1: a very interesting way. But I have them, and they're

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Speaker 1: on the legal side of this, and they're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: on the football side. They're just on the legal side.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're aware of what Florida

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Speaker 1: State's mascot is, but they're on the legal side. And

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Speaker 1: I've gotten as much intel as they can give me

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Speaker 1: throughout this whole thing, and they've always been very, very guarded.

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Speaker 1: They talk like classic legal types would talk. I can't

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Speaker 1: say this, I can't tell you this, I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you that. I can't respond to that. Well, earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: the gift out. I don't know what the timeline is.

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Speaker 1: I just know that this is the kind of person

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Speaker 1: think they care about the ramifications over on the college

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Speaker 1: I do, and they know people like us do. So

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Speaker 1: they threw that at me, and I asked a bunch

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Speaker 1: of questions and I got some answers I can't share.

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Speaker 1: But the long and short of it is, I think

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Speaker 1: and I don't certainly no action is going to happen

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Speaker 1: before this season, but it wouldn't stun me at all

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Speaker 1: if we heard news on this front before this season starts.

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Speaker 1: And that's what nine saturdays away. So yeah, if that

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Chris said. Are you still optimistic

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Speaker 1: future or has that changed any since you made these comments,

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Speaker 1: well a thousand things have changed since I made the comments.

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Speaker 1: That's true. My attitude has not changed. In fact, Chris

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Speaker 1: is going to come with more structure than I feared

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Speaker 1: would be able to have, more governance than I feared

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Speaker 1: would be able to have. So what Chris is talking

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Speaker 1: about is I did several segments months back, probably over

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Speaker 1: present moment was in the long term, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go backwards. We're gonna have to go through

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Speaker 1: some crap before we get there, and we've been going

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Speaker 1: through it and we're not through it yet, but we

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Speaker 1: will get through it. Now, I'm not talking about an

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Speaker 1: individual player. I'm not talking about an individual program, an

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Speaker 1: a whole, cause that's what most of us care about you.

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Speaker 1: Guys care about your team, and you care about the sport,

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Speaker 1: mostly in that order. I care about the sport and

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Speaker 1: then teams in that order. Because I don't cover a team,

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Speaker 1: about and what I continue to maintain is right now

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Speaker 1: and in the past couple of years, there has been

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Speaker 1: no semblance of guardrails anywhere. It's just been kind of

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Speaker 1: free for all. There's no structure. In other words, it's

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Speaker 1: all jello. It's all non congealed jello, and the pan

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Speaker 1: just keeps sloshing around, and like we have to sit

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Speaker 1: put in the fridge and allowed to sit still for

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Speaker 1: any length of time. The rules change every year. Things

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Speaker 1: are going through such a transition period that you don't

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Speaker 1: even know who the governing body is. The NCAA literally

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Speaker 1: had to pause investigations because they have no power, not

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Speaker 1: that they ever had much of power, but they have

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Speaker 1: none now. So that's obviously not really sustainable. And also

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Speaker 1: be games every fall and people will watch. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: how about this. I've always asked what makes college football?

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Speaker 1: And to me, the spirit of college football is what

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Speaker 1: in this case, a huge swath of people being willing

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Speaker 1: to values and principles, and they don't see a lot

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Speaker 1: of that reflected right now. Now, that doesn't turn someone

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Speaker 1: It's not like someone goes from being a diehard college

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Speaker 1: The way it happens is they go from being die

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Speaker 1: passionate to I like college football. They go from I

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Speaker 1: go from I watch most of the time to I

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Speaker 1: watch the big games. They go from I watch the

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Speaker 1: big games to I watch the title game and that's it,

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Speaker 1: to hey, who won the championship last year. I don't

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Speaker 1: how that happens. It happens in degrees. That's why these

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Speaker 1: folks making the bad faith argument that college football is

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Speaker 1: totally fine because the ratings are still big, aren't to

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Speaker 1: be taken seriously with their opinion on this. That is

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Speaker 1: not proof of anything, that's not correlation to anything other

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Speaker 1: than a product that was made to be strong over

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Speaker 1: the past few decades is doing exactly what all strong

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Speaker 1: products in the entertainment business over the past number of

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Speaker 1: decades are doing, and that is producing good numbers in

641
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Speaker 1: the here and now. Horrible decisions today, horrible structure today,

642
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: will yield bad results in the future downstream, not in

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Speaker 1: the here and now, not in the present moment. So

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Speaker 1: what I had said that Chris's referencing is I do

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Speaker 1: think we're making moves that will get us a lot

646
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Speaker 1: more structure therefore a lot more consistency down the road.

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Speaker 1: But I also said not everyone's gonna make it. And

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Speaker 1: I said that with no smile on my face. I

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Speaker 1: just said it basically as a matter of reality. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're on the Titanic. It hits the iceberg. The moment

651
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: that thing hits the iceberg, fatalities are guaranteed. It's guaranteed.

652
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you go back and replay it

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Speaker 1: a thousand times, the best of best case scenarios. If

654
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Speaker 1: the plan is carried out perfectly, people are gonna die.

655
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Speaker 1: How do you limit the fatalities? And then when you

656
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Speaker 1: limit it and you do a great job, do you

657
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Speaker 1: look around and you say this was a failure because

658
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Speaker 1: people died. No, you say it was an engineering failure.

659
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Speaker 1: You know, the people pre collision with Iceberg who were

660
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Speaker 1: involved in the decision making, they failed. But once it

661
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: was done, it was done, and at that point it's

662
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Speaker 1: up to you to mitigate the damage. So college football,

663
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: in many ways has hit its own Iceberg when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the fact that we are going to lose programs,

665
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Speaker 1: we're going to lose some tradition. Those things are absolute.

666
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Speaker 1: So my strategy has been, all right, let's look at

667
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: it from that perspective, and let's not try and go

668
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Speaker 1: idealistic here, because there is no solution that's idealistic. That's

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Speaker 1: not real That's why it's called idealistic. Let's go realistic,

670
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: best case, realistic. What do we do well? Best case

671
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: is you get to a point where you don't have

672
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: to pay for play free. For all that you currently

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Speaker 1: have masquerading as nil, You've got players staying on the

674
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Speaker 1: same team multiple years and incentivized to do so. I

675
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Speaker 1: would also love if we greatly reduced coaching churn. Brandon

676
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Marcelo had an article last month I think it was

677
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: where he said one third of coaches in college football

678
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: changed jobs last cycles. Supid. It's completely ridiculous, and it

679
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: cuts the legs out from under any argument than any

680
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: coach makes about not liking how the portal works. When

681
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: a third of you, thirty three percent of you moved,

682
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Speaker 1: if you went from being the coordinator somewhere to taking

683
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Speaker 1: a head coaching job, that's good. That's called advancement. No

684
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: different than if the punter at Miami of Ohio gets

685
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: a spot at Ohio State. No one's fault in that

686
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: kid for going anywhere. But man, a lot of you

687
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: are moving just to move, and it's ridiculous. I'd love

688
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: to see that cut down on. I would love to

689
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Speaker 1: see recruiting go back to the spirit of recruiting. This

690
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: is where a lot of people are going to make

691
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Speaker 1: fun of me because they think I'm ignorant to the

692
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: idea that money once changed hands in college football before

693
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: nil became an acronym. I'm not ignorant to it, but

694
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: I do know that back in the day, no matter

695
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: whether one hundred dollars handshakes or sacks of cash were

696
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: being passed or not, relationship based approaches to recruiting were

697
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: really what won the day more so than not. That's

698
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: what won the day, and that is that's not what

699
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: recruiting is right now, and I don't like that personally.

700
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't like it. So if we get into a

701
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Speaker 1: world where guys are guaranteed to get money through revenue sharing,

702
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: much more than they're getting now anyway across the board

703
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: as well, then we can get back to recruiting feeling

704
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: a lot more authentic than it does right now. You

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00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: get roster retention rates drastically going up, and I think that,

706
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: along with a competitive TV product and a more compelling

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00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: TV product in terms of competitiveness week in and week out,

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Speaker 1: those will be good things. But it's not gonna bring

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00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve back. Okay. It is not going to

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00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: bring a lot of the things that you used to

711
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: love about college football back, but it does save a

712
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: lot of it is the point. So we're putting as

713
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: many folks in the lifeboats as we can right now,

714
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: instead of putting fifteen in there and saying, all right,

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00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: go ahead, don't want you to be crowded in there.

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: I want you to feel comfortable. That's where we are

717
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: right now. So from that standpoint, I am quite optimistic.

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Speaker 1: From the standpoint of going back to what college football

719
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: was like in two thousand five, no, I'm not optimistic

720
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: about that, because that's impossible. One other thing to keep

721
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: in mind, this is a TV product first and foremost,

722
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: and it's worth a ton of money, and these networks

723
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: are spending a ton of money on it. So the

724
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: one piece of good news is if we're right about

725
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: what appeals with college athletics, and we are by the

726
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: way and what maximizes television numbers and viewership with college athletics,

727
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: and we are by the way, then those TV companies

728
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: and those media partners will ultimately have to push the

729
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: ball in that direction or else they suffer a lack

730
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: of return on their investment. Simply put, they have to

731
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: make sure college football is structured in a way that

732
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: maximizes the size of the audience, otherwise they wasted their money.

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Speaker 1: So they'll ultimately end up with the same motivations as

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00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: we have, although I know it doesn't feel that way

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00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: right now. Cejvall up next, Where do you stand on

736
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee on game Day debate? I have no

737
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: idea because I never get to watch college game Day again.

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Speaker 1: Let me stress. Don't hear what I didn't say. I

739
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: didn't say I don't like college game Day. I'm normally

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00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: at the game they're at. Actually, I'm always on the road.

741
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: I am constantly on the road. I'm at the biggest

742
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: game in the country every Saturday. I do not have

743
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: what is at nine am to twelve pm Eastern I

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00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: think it is. I don't have those hours carved out

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00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: where I can sit and watch a lot of times.

746
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: The way I see game Day if I see it

747
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: is I'm already at a stadium early and they have

748
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: maybe ESPN on in the press boxes, and I will

749
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: see it that way. But I can't remember the last

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00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: time I watched an entire segment of College Game Day uninterrupted.

751
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: So that's nothing to do with my viewership habits or

752
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: my approval or disapproval. I just don't get to watch

753
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: the show. But a lot of you do. I know

754
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: some of you have been turned off by it. Others

755
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: watch and you always have and you always will. I'm

756
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: not telling you what to watch and what your viewership

757
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: habits should be. But Pat McAfee being on there the

758
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: last couple of years has been really polarizing, and I'll

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00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: give you my take on it independent of me having

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00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: watched the show. This is my take on TV shows

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00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: and entertainment products in general. I've never watched a movie

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00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: that I loved where I loved every character in the movie.

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Speaker 1: So let's just say I didn't like Pat McAfee on

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00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Game Day, which a lot of you feel. A lot

765
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: of you feel that way. I have always watched movies

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00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: and understood going in there's probably going to be a

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00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: character in this movie. I don't like. There may be

768
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: a character in this wrestling match. Back in the day

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00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: when I watched wrestling a lot, I don't like. That

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00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: doesn't turn me off from watching it necessarily, I'll still

771
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: watch it. I don't have to love everyone in the

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00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: presentation if I love the presentation overall. Now, the counter

773
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: to that is Josh Well in the movie, the good

774
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: guy gets the bad guy in the end. In wrestling,

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00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: the good guy triumphs over the bad guy in the end,

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00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: whereas in this world, the bad guy's just back every week. Okay,

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00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. And again, if that's the way

778
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: you feel, that's the way you feel. The way I

779
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: fall on it is whether I liked it or didn't

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00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: like it. If I did watch a lot and I

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00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: decided I didn't like it, I'd probably still be able

782
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: to watch, if that makes any sense. I'll also say this,

783
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: like Game Day on Saturday Morning used to be the

784
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: institution that was unopposed, and they've got the Fox Saturday

785
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: Morning Show as well, and I don't think the numbers

786
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: quite match what Game Day is. I think Fox puts

787
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: on a really good product because I have been able

788
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: to watch some of that because as you know, I

789
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: love big noon kickoff, so I go to as many

790
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: noon games as I can, and sometimes I'll be like

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00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: out in the general area where the Fox broadcast has

792
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: taken place, so I see it in person sometimes and

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00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think the lineup they have,

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00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: I think that combination is really good. I think there's

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00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: a good chemistry there, not that they don't have really

796
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: good chemistry on Game Day I just I don't know

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00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: what it is. There's an intangible about that presentation that

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00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: really appeals to me. But I'm not doing a fair

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00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: comparison because I don't get to watch the game day

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Speaker 1: product as much. But you're talking to someone who used

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00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: to be locked into college game day every morning, so

802
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: that that brand is burned in my mind. I mean,

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00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: I grew up every Saturday morning like that was appointment viewing,

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00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: and maybe for some of you it still is, and

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00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: if it is good for you, I just don't have

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Speaker 1: a fully formed take on it cause I don't see

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Speaker 1: pat On there A lot. I see him, but it's

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00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: normally muted. I don't get to hear it. I don't

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Speaker 1: get to experience it. But hey, I thank you for listening. Anyway.

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