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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Thursday, January fifteenth, and an

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Speaker 1: Ice agent has shot somebody else in Minneapolis. And with that,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ at Breaking

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Speaker 1: development overnight robes. It's crazy. It was exactly a week

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Speaker 1: ago that Renee Good was shot and killed. But yes,

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Speaker 1: it was another chaotic night, chaotic scenes. And yes, somebody

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Speaker 1: else has been shot, is the headline.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and this is exactly what Minneapolis authorities have been

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Speaker 2: warning of and have been afraid of, and yes it

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Speaker 2: has happened again.

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Speaker 3: The man was shot in the leg.

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Speaker 2: Thankfully he is recovering in the hospital with non life

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Speaker 2: threatening injuries.

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Speaker 3: We want to point that out.

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Speaker 2: This thankfully did not result in a death like we

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Speaker 2: saw a week ago. But yes, as you might imagine,

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Speaker 2: then the streets of Minneapolis got filled with more protesters

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Speaker 2: and things got uglier overnight.

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Speaker 3: And it's just a mess in Minneapolis, and.

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Speaker 1: It has been ugly since a week ago. So yes,

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Speaker 1: as we sit here, it's Thursday, January fifteenth. Renee Good

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Speaker 1: was killed on January seventh. So last week we have

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Speaker 1: seen clashes and we have seen confrontations, we should say,

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Speaker 1: in the street. You've seen some of these videos and

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Speaker 1: they continue. But you see these clashes popping up. We

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Speaker 1: hear flash bangs, you see tear gash, you see rubber bullets.

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Speaker 1: You see actually some people on the streets there physically

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Speaker 1: assaulting some ICE agents, and if they're not doing them that,

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Speaker 1: then oftentimes they're in their face and trying to instruct

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. What we're saying is those scenes are

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Speaker 1: just a moment away from exploding into something larger. This

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Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily the case. We'll describe what DHS says, but Robes.

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Speaker 1: The point is, even if somebody hadn't been shot overnight,

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Speaker 1: we might still be doing this story because that is

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Speaker 1: what's happening on.

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Speaker 2: The streets exactly. We're just one one tense moment away

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Speaker 2: from another significant story coming out of Minneapolis. But yes yesterday,

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Speaker 2: what this is according to Department of Homeland Security, they

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Speaker 2: say that they had a targeted arrest.

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Speaker 3: They said that they found a man who was here.

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Speaker 2: Illegally from Venezuela, and they say that the man fled

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Speaker 2: on foot after they pursued him and he attacked the

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Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security. The ICE officer when he reached

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Speaker 2: him and with a shovel, they said, and then two

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Speaker 2: people they say, came out of a home and actually

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Speaker 2: also started assaulting the Department of Homeland Security officer, who

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Speaker 2: then said he feared for his life.

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Speaker 1: So they so to set up the scenario again, folks,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. At least according to DHS, this was

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Speaker 1: a situation in which their officer was attacked and then

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Speaker 1: they said, and a broom handle. So they set up

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Speaker 1: a scenario with which this man was attacked by three

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Speaker 1: barricaded themselves in a home, and this situation kind of continued.

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Speaker 1: This is not the same type of scenario we were

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Speaker 1: talking about with Renee Good. However, this does set up

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Speaker 1: a situation. Look, this was different. They said they were

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Speaker 1: there doing a legal they were doing a targeted enforcement action,

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Speaker 1: and we're picking up this particular individual who was in

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Speaker 1: the country illegally. The story now robes plays out a

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Speaker 1: little differently, and maybe the debate plays out a little differently,

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Speaker 1: where you heard Minnesota officials instead of attacking DHS for

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Speaker 1: what they did to this one individual or defending this

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Speaker 1: one individual. They were more so pleading with the public,

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Speaker 1: please don't give the Trump administration debate.

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Speaker 2: Yes, actually we heard once again from Minneapolis Mayor Jacob

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Speaker 2: Frye who said, go home. We cannot counter Donald Trump's

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Speaker 3: And that is what we did see and.

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Speaker 2: Have been seeing on the streets of Minneapolis, where we

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Speaker 2: have protesters throwing ice, throwing snow, throwing fireworks, even and

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Speaker 2: in some cases rocks at ICE agents. Obviously that is

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Speaker 2: escalate the situation and it's not going to make ICE leave.

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Speaker 1: No, and you're actually giving them a valid reason to

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Speaker 1: We cannot put it all on the protesters. Obviously we're

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Speaker 1: not doing that. The folks will always go back to

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Speaker 1: will they shouldn't be there in the first place, the

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Speaker 1: they are being met on the streets, sometimes robes with violence. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they are being met with confrontations angry, and we have

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Speaker 1: given some of the ice agent's credit for Wow, that

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Speaker 1: And it hasn't slowed down yet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and not to but imagine I was trying to

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Speaker 2: imagine being an ice agent knowing you or there doing

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Speaker 2: who are impassioned and feel they are doing the right thing,

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Speaker 1: But it's never the right thing. We should always say

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Speaker 1: that it's never the right thing to put your hands

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Speaker 1: on a member of law enforcement because.

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Speaker 2: You're pissed, or to run away from law enforcements, to

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Speaker 2: not follow law enforcements orders. At that point, you have

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Speaker 2: to follow the rule of the land. That is the

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Speaker 2: only way things go forward. I thought it was interesting

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Speaker 2: something else that may Or Fry said, because this is

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Speaker 2: exactly what we are seeing right now the streets of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: He said, we cannot be at a place right now

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Speaker 2: literally fighting one another. I hadn't thought about it that way,

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Speaker 2: but that is exactly what we are seeing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you have more ICE agents than you do,

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Speaker 1: police officers than Minnecus.

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Speaker 2: Six hundred police officers, three thousand ice officers.

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Speaker 1: Where we are on the streets right now and there's

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Speaker 1: no resolute The two sides don't seem to be talking

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Speaker 1: outside of press conferences and lobbing. You know, Minnesota officials,

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Speaker 1: they are absolutely obviously they were pissed on day one

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Speaker 1: after Renee Good. But Robes yesterday you did see it

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Speaker 1: looks a different tone. I give Governor Waltz credit, but

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Speaker 1: you know Jacob Fry. Mayor Fry is not helped with

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Speaker 1: the tone in a lot of ways. And we understand

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Speaker 1: you want to give him that grace to be angry

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Speaker 1: and pissed about what's happening to his citizens. But right

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Speaker 1: now there's a responsibility to help keep your city and safe.

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Speaker 1: And part of that he told them flat out get

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Speaker 1: he's telling them like it's getting too hot, and last

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Speaker 1: night hot is what we saw. Now, DHS did put

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Speaker 1: last night includes Joe Biden's name.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can see President Trump's stamp on every single

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Speaker 2: of the statement. At six fifty pm Central time, federal

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Speaker 2: law enforcement officers were conducting a targeted traffic stop in

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis of an illegal in from Venezuela who was released

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Speaker 2: into the country by Joe Biden in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, what does that mean? Is that true?

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Speaker 1: It literally sounds like Joe Biden went to a jail

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Speaker 1: what it sounds like, and that's the point of this.

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Speaker 1: But to think, this man, where's Joe Biden right now?

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Speaker 1: Getting cancer treatment somewhere doing whatever? And he comes out

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely every day, and sometimes multiple times today it is.

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Speaker 3: You feel like, no, surely not this time, and then

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Speaker 3: it just keeps on happening.

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Speaker 2: But the statement goes on to say that this person

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Speaker 2: who was here illegally, in an attempt to evade arrest,

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Speaker 2: the subject fled the scene in his vehicle and crashed

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Speaker 2: The law enforcement officer caught up to the subject on

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Speaker 2: two subjects came out of a nearby apartment also attacked

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Speaker 2: the law enforcement officer with a snow shovel and a

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Speaker 2: as he was being ambushed by three individuals, the officer

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Speaker 1: Now, how is this going to be? I'm very curious

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Speaker 1: today because as we're recording this, folks, again, this was

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Speaker 1: it necessarily taken place? How is this story going to

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Speaker 1: be spun differently about them being there versus the renee

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Speaker 1: good story. Will it all be lumped together saying, see, look,

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Speaker 2: Correct, Because if this does look like the person who

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Speaker 1: But the larger point, right, Biden let him out. Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: is protecting him. We had to come in and get

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Speaker 1: who is in the country illegally. See, this is why

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Speaker 1: we're here. We're the heroes. They have the storyline, now

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Speaker 1: this one, on this one, they have the storyline, and

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Speaker 1: so this is all this is going to be. With

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Speaker 1: the back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the last line of the statement kind of

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Speaker 2: is going. They're hateful rhetoric and resistance against men and

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Speaker 2: women who are simply trying to do their jobs must end.

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Speaker 2: Federal law enforcement officers are facing a thirteen hundred percent

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Speaker 2: increase in assaults against them as they put their lives

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Speaker 1: They're following their order. I mean, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: I mean the tactics. We talked about this. It's ridiculous

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Speaker 1: to think, But what would happen if an ice officer

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Speaker 1: can you move? They would tell you this is impossible.

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Speaker 1: What if the citizens came out there? I said this,

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Speaker 1: It sounds so stupid, doesn't it. I said, what if

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Speaker 1: people put together little care packages and walked out there. Here, guys,

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Speaker 1: here are some handwarmers for you. Here, guys, here's a

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Speaker 1: couple of twizzlers, here's a bottle of water. Like, we

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Speaker 1: are still American citizens. We are fighting each other, but

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Speaker 1: that's your family, that's your brother, that's your countrymen. And

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Speaker 1: to see us going at it like this in such

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Speaker 2: You see that this is yes, this attack on another

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Speaker 3: And this is like civil.

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Speaker 1: Sure enough, Insurrection Act was trending online. Insurrection Act. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: I'm focused on stopping you from your terrorism by whatever

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Speaker 2: So now you've got members of the federal government in

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Speaker 1: Sweetheart, terrorists, wrists, stop you from your terrorism. Wow. Those

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Speaker 3: This isn't it's not a threat. It's a promise.

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Speaker 1: There is just a lot so by all means, folks,

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