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I want to go 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 7: a bunch of different directions here. 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 5: Well, we may be going a different direction in the NFL. 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: Oh oh boy, So here we go. This is a 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 5: rule change proposal season the NFL Competition Committee. I just 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: liked the idea of them throwing this out there and 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 5: none of them, for the most part, ever getting changed. 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 6: But yeah no, that's why I love talking about it. 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 6: So yeah, let's talk about so that won't get changed. 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: The NFL Competition Committee is discussing the possibility of allowing 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 5: replay officials to throw flags, specifically quote non football acts 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 5: that have gone unpenalized by on field officials from NFL 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 5: Executive VP of Football Ops Troy Vincent, quote, you don't 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: want to be expanding the Pandora's box, but we believe 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: that things like the Non Football Act, you can really 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 5: really restrict what that is. That's something that we believe 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 5: that potentially there's a little bit of tweaking in the 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: language that may be the first step. So apparently if 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: there's a play or a couple of plays this past 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 5: year where they felt like there was an egregious act 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 5: that was not called in real time, they feel like 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 5: that could warrant a replay official throwing a flag and 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 5: could result in a penalty on the field, because usually 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: what happens is there's a fine after the game or 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 5: a suspension possibly, Right, So. 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 6: We're talking about like person fouls, unsports with like conduct, 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 6: things that would potentially fall into the player's safety conduct. 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 7: Is that Is that more what we're getting at? 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, basically, which I think if you're looking for rule changes, 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 6: anything under the guise of players safety usually gets it done, 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 6: you know, usually creates change and because neither side's gonna 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 6: argue against it, right Like for the NFL, for the NFLPA. 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 6: You know everyone involves going to say, yeah, this is 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 6: probably the best interest of our players, of our sport, 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 6: the integrity of the game. Why are we not trying 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 6: to get an extra official on the field? Though, Like 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 6: every time we talk this during this portion of the 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 6: off season, it seems like we never want to actually 70 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 6: make changes to help improve just the overall officiating. It's 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 6: like we pick and kind of choose little battles here 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 6: and there we think we can maybe push through, Like 73 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 6: is this the biggest issue with officiating in the NFL? 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 6: Is it like the finds and things that go or 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 6: have gone unpenalized. 76 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 7: Is that like our biggest gripe? 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 4: Is it just a money thing? 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 7: How can it be a money This is a billion 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 7: dollar business. 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 6: And like we can't add on an additional official in 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: the field like you have in college football to give 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 6: you an extra set of eyes to give you a 83 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 6: little bit more help. 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 7: So maybe we're better on the field. 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 5: That's that's and that's why I asked the question. Because 86 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 5: if it's if it's not about if it's if it's 87 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 5: not about money, God bless you anyway, thank you, then 88 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 5: no reason. Yeah, you don't need a reason to bless somebody. 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: If it's not about money, then what's the point, like, like, 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: what what would be the reasoning behind not wanting to 91 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 5: bring an extra official on? 92 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: Like I don't, I don't know. 93 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: That there there is a reason that makes any sense whatsoever, 94 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 5: But they don't do it, and they won't. 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 7: Like I've gone on as much to say, like how 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 7: many officials are there in an NBA game? Is it three? 97 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 7: Yeah? 99 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 6: And so even now like in youth basketball, you know 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 6: you'll see just two out there. And sometimes I'm watching 101 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 6: the game thinking, I mean, again, credit to the officials 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 6: people who put themselves in that position. It is a 103 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 6: thankless job, Okay. And I'm not going to act like 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 6: I haven't been a parent at times that got maybe 105 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 6: upset about some calls here and there, but I always 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 6: look and go if there was a third official, they 107 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 6: probably have better angles to see who the ball got 108 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 6: tipped off of, whose possession it should. 109 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 7: Be, whether or not that was a foul. 110 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 6: I mean, you could make this case almost at every 111 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 6: level of every sport. And I'm not advocating for their 112 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 6: being a field littered with officials, but I don't get 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 6: how you go from college football to the NFL and 114 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 6: you remove an official, it doesn't make any sense. 115 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 7: And I do think that would help improve the. 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 6: Consistency of games being the way games are officiated, but 117 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 6: also getting some of the calls right so we don't 118 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 6: have to lean on replay more and not that you know, 119 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 6: we shouldn't try to figure out a way of implementing 120 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 6: replay and whatever capacity. And maybe this is a bit 121 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 6: of a small way of doing so. But I don't 122 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: think this is the NFL's biggest issue. I just don't, 123 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 6: and I feel like it's something that you pick on, 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 6: so like everyone's looking over here and we're not actually 125 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 6: addressing the real issues that we have with the NFL. 126 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 6: We're officiating. I thought this year was one of the 127 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 6: worst years in a long time. And I think one 128 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 6: of the reasons why no one's talking about is because 129 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 6: the playoffs, they basically said, don't call anything like allow holding, 130 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 6: let it happen, you know, don't call anything in the 131 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 6: passing game either, don't call as much DPI, just fewer penalties, 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 6: and then no one's going to, you know, moan and 133 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 6: complain about this. 134 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 7: But during the course of the regular season, it was 135 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 7: a bad year for officiating. 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: Man, you know, topics like these for me lead me 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: down the road and the thought process of how many 138 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: people know it, how many people can see it now, 139 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: I feel like this is age. This is age specific. 140 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: If you lived in a certain time, if you if 141 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: you were a fan of this sport and you watched 142 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: this sport in the nineties. Hell, if you watch this 143 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: sport in the eighties or the late seventies, you have 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: a reference point I can recall. It's so funny because 145 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: I could recall, like rest is soul, Like you know, 146 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: Sammy Huff used to always say, man, you're too nice. 147 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: You'd be one of the best football players if you 148 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: just had a little bit more hate in your heart, 149 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: like you gotta hate people. I was like, dang, Sammy. 150 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: They made a movie about him. There was the valid 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: mind of Sammy Huff. But if you're if you're referencing 152 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: what the NFL used to be, what it came from, 153 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: and what it into, I think you look at it 154 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: and it's it's very difficult to find what is the 155 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: proper standard of safety mixed with full contact football. If 156 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: you're a younger generation fan, I think your your scope 157 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: is so different. You don't have the reference points. You 158 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: don't have those experience of watching somebody get clothes lined 159 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: or heads slapped or body slammed or you know whatever 160 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: it is the Earl Campbell runs when they ran up 161 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: your chest or tear away jerseys. Like you didn't like 162 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: those things. You didn't get those experiences. You've gotten this 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: version of or something close to this version of the NFL, 164 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: which is connected more to gambling, which is connected more 165 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 3: to fantasy football. And I feel like the further you 166 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: get away from what the roots, because you got to 167 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: call it what it is, the further you get away 168 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: from the roots of what built this game and built 169 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: this sport and the popularity of it. You know, they 170 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: called him mean Joe Green for a reason. They called 171 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: him you know, night train Lane for a reason. They 172 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: called him Hester the for a reason, you know, like 173 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: you know the Hester or Lester Leicester. You can't say that, 174 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: come on, man, that was that is his nickname. That 175 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: but you can't say that today. And here's the thing, right, 176 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: here's the thing. That's what this game was built on 177 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: and now it is the total antithesis of it. So 178 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: if you want to say why are there less why 179 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: are there less officials? On the field because they have 180 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: one to two focuses, and those one to two focuses 181 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: are making sure you protect the quarterback, making sure that 182 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: you put these receivers in a position where they can 183 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: catch balls and make big plays. Those are the two 184 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: main focuses. Okay, And so to me, it's just a 185 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: very it's a very different league. 186 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 5: So if we're going back, uh you know, quote unquote 187 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 5: back in the time, oh quote unquot quote. So like 188 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 5: this is why I bring this up. When when we 189 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 5: were grown, like your parents would always tell you, if 190 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: they told you not to do something, they would provide 191 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: reasons as to what could happen if you go down 192 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 5: that road. Hey, listen, if you if you climb up there, 193 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: you could fall, you could hurt, you could bust your 194 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 5: head open, et cetera, et cetera. 195 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: Ecce. 196 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 5: There's like they would give you the long term effects. 197 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: This is the This is what bothers me about taking 198 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: the cheap way out of that. This is what this 199 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 5: is about when it comes to officiating, Like everybody's just 200 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 5: looking in the moment, not realizing the long term effects 201 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: that some of this stuff could have. Like you're talking 202 00:10:51,720 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 5: about careers, jobs, livelihoods, reputations, hall of fame. Potentially all 203 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 5: of these things could be veered in one direction or another. 204 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 5: It could be veered one direction or another just based 205 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 5: on a bad call. And I know call, and I 206 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: know that the human element is a real thing, and 207 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 5: humans are going to make mistakes, and that is fit. Like, listen, 208 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 5: the guy's going to miss a call, guy's going to 209 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 5: I totally understand that. But if there's a way that 210 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: you can fix it and get it right, why wouldn't you, like, 211 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 5: why wouldn't you exhaust every effort to make sure you 212 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 5: could fix it and get it right? And instead, every 213 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 5: year they'll throw out some proposals they've got, like, you know, 214 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 5: twelve to fourteen of them that they'll throw out and 215 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 5: maybe one or two will get fixed. And it's like 216 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: that and I we'll just worry about it next year. 217 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 5: No man, like in the moment, mixed fixed represent to you, guys, 218 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 5: if it means add an extraficial to get the call right, 219 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: that's the most important thing. 220 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: Who cares? 221 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: But let's be clear here, do you guys really think 222 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: adding one more official is going to get all these 223 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: calls right, that's going to correct the whole therea. 224 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 6: And mind you, I don't necessarily believe that they get 225 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 6: that many wrong. I think this year when I talk 226 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 6: about poor officiating, what I'm talking about is whatever the 227 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: NFL believes the vision is for what games should look like, 228 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 6: and if we're going to judge the playoffs as being that, 229 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 6: then having that consistency throughout the course of the year. Like, 230 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 6: all I want for the players is for an edge 231 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 6: rusher to know, like what's going to be holding, what's not, Like, 232 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 6: how could he counter that? Whatever is going to be 233 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 6: allowed for him to be able to get his sacks 234 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 6: and him to be able to get his pressures. Same 235 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 6: thing for a cornerback, same thing for a wide receiver. 236 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 6: Like I just I wanted it to be consistent working conditions. 237 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 6: I mean, that's how simply I'll put it, because that's 238 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: what it comes down to. Like we think of working 239 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 6: conditions as what they do every day other than on Sundays, 240 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 6: but honestly, that's what it is during the course of game. 241 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 6: And so I just I want to see all of 242 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 6: it officiated in a consistent manner, from crew to crewe 243 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: and throughout the course. 244 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 7: Of the season. 245 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 6: And I don't want to have these weeks where we're 246 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 6: calling everything like any potential chance they touch a receiver 247 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: it's going to be a DPI or every single you 248 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 6: know pass rusher is getting you know, attack was being 249 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 6: flagged for holding, you know on some of these edge rushers. 250 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 6: Like I don't want to see that. I just want 251 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 6: to see it be a consistent football game. And by 252 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: the way, an extra official maybe chiming in on some 253 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 6: of the rules that they mess up on half the time. 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 6: I mean we've seen examples of that too. We talked 255 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 6: about that with Dean Blndino throout the course of the season. 256 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 6: So look, I would think if you have all these 257 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: sports betting partner sports books that are involved in this 258 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: for promotional activities, that they would want it to for 259 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 6: the integrity of the game, you know, so it's more 260 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 6: consistent and they're not having to deal with potential payouts 261 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 6: or having to pay both sides knowing that really the. 262 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 7: Officiating fell apart in some spots. I do think what's. 263 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 6: Interesting about one note because we talked about the tush 264 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 6: push play and that they're not being a ban or 265 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 6: proposal for it. I will say this though, and reading 266 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 6: more into that, there hasn't been a. 267 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 7: Band for. 268 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 6: Or a proposal for not aiding the runner, which is 269 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 6: really what that play is, and that's the one to 270 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 6: keep an eye on. So the specific play of the 271 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 6: tush push itself, there may not be a ban on that. 272 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 6: But if they just try to outlaw aiding a runner, 273 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 6: because right now you're not allowed to pull a runner 274 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 6: technically grab their arm and pull them to take, which 275 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 6: isn't even officiated well anyway, But if they outlaw that, 276 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 6: that would potentially do away with the tush push, and 277 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 6: that still is. 278 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 7: Potentially on the table. Troy Vincent didn't mention that, by. 279 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: The way, they need to do away with chip blocks. 280 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: They need to start there talking about the safety and 281 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: the welfare and well being of a player out there 282 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: on the football field. Do away with chip blocks. It's 283 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: not cute, it's not needed. You could say it's necessary, 284 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: but I say it's needed. Yeah, I'm sure you would. 285 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 6: No, I'm I would say it's it's needed more than 286 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 6: ever because of the disadvantaged that offensive linemen are in 287 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 6: versus the edge rushing. 288 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: I don't say to you, just like people say to us, 289 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: figure it out. 290 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's figure it out. 291 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 6: But my rebuttals to you would be, then you go 292 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 6: into a realm where you're you've got games thirteen to ten, 293 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 6: thirteen to seven. Is that what the NFL wants? Of 294 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 6: course not. 295 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: They don't want that for fantasy. They don't want that 296 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 7: for the products. 297 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: And don't say safety. 298 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 7: That ain't going away anytime. 299 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: So don't say it's a safety first league, because that 300 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: is what's just like a defenseless receiver. 301 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 6: It's not for defenders. It's only for offensive point. Do 302 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 6: you want to be real about it? I mean, and 303 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 6: you're right, but don't say it's safety first. Then that's all. 304 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 6: Say what it is is because to me, safety the worst. Oh, 305 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 6: the league says safety first, safety first, safety and well 306 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 6: being of the players first. That's been the overarching message 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 6: for quite so since since concussion. 308 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: There's been a lot of concussions. Well, the one that. 309 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 6: Had remained paid all kinds of stuff the back of 310 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 6: the I mean, that's that's different. That's those are can 311 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 6: they really should just pick one though, you know it's 312 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 6: there's too much. They need to just go with one 313 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 6: for the season. I mean it was domestic violence at 314 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 6: one point. It just depends on what what guys have 315 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 6: gotten in trouble and how big their names are they Yeah, yeah, 316 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 6: you know. 317 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: Don't don't move the goal post. 318 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: Chip blocks should be one of the first things on 319 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: the docket that are are addressed and and done away with. 320 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: Look, I asked you this, and we were going to 321 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 5: break yesterday because we were up against it. 322 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: But I asked you this. I'm telling you if it was. 323 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: And I love chip blockers, by the way, because I 324 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: anticipated the chip, so I went and hit the chipper. 325 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 7: But if it sounds like maybe the defense should have just. 326 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: Then well we are always asked to adjust, prepare for 327 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: the worst, be prepared for the worst, but hope for 328 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: the best. 329 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 5: But if there was an equivalent to that play that 330 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 5: was benefiting the defense against the offense. 331 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: It would be called. Yeah, like they get rid of it. 332 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: They like like like the five yard jam rule and 333 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: stuff like that, or keeping them in front, like there 334 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: are certain things like when when ty Law abused Marvin 335 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: Harrison in the playoffs, they did away with the way 336 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: you could handle wide receivers, Like he was sitting Marvin 337 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: Harrison on the bench. He was he was mugging him 338 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: so bad. They totally changed the rules for defensive backs 339 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: after that that Patriot domination over the Colts. There have 340 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: been moments in time where you've seen things that that 341 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: the defense has done to dominate games and they totally 342 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: remove it and they'll blame it on the safety of 343 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: the game. 344 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 6: The reality is, though, is the game doesn't need that 345 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 6: right now as far as like helping out, their aiding 346 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 6: the defense, Like we just had a scene when it's 347 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 6: super that one because of their defense. 348 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: It's just funny that you'd say helping out and aiding, Like, 349 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 3: to me, I think that's what we're just saying. I 350 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: just think the rule is in this instant is to protect. 351 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: Like it's not helping out or or aiding them. It's 352 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: a it's a protection. 353 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 6: I've said this, even when they change the rule in 354 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: which how you as a defender could land on the quarterback. Crazy, 355 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 6: there's been more injuries to defensive players and how they've 356 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 6: tried to avoid that crazy. Then there was probably quarterbacks 357 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 6: like say it, that's all if you just want to 358 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 6: say that, to say we don't matter, defensive players don't 359 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 6: matter to say it, I mean, I'm not saying that. Yeah, 360 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 6: I know, I do think do think you're with that perspective. 361 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 6: I don't think Troy Vince is gonna come out and 362 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 6: say it. And he was a defender. Well, I mean 363 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 6: he's already on the other team. Anyway, he left the 364 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 6: players on the NFL side, I get it. You know 365 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 6: he's doing him. He's not a strip club of guys. 366 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm sure there were a lot of 367 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: different reasons why he you know, he took took his 368 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: his talents to to the NFL. 369 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 6: Can I give one more update that I found because 370 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 6: I don't know if we'll get to this, but I 371 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 6: do find this interesting. At the combine, did you see 372 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 6: they're going to be having a quarterback Tyler Elger? 373 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 7: I believe this. He was pronounced he uh. 374 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 6: He was already in with the Packers last year and 375 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 6: he's coming back to throw this year's NFL combine. 376 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 7: Oh no, I mean he played it. He played in 377 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 7: a preseason game last year. 378 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: I think they should have I think they should have 379 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: rookies come back and do that every year. I don't 380 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: think quarterbacks should work out at at the combine. 381 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: Wait, so he's trying to get redrafted, like relooked at that. 382 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 7: That's what I just get Maybe just get a look Yeah, 383 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 7: it was getting a look as a free agent, and. 384 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: Maybe get a look and you're going to get good balls. 385 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 6: Doesn't that kind of go against the entire point of 386 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 6: the like he had his opportunity last year, was obviously undrafted. 387 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 6: He comes from Canada, so maybe there's an international element 388 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 6: of this. 389 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 5: Was he at the Combine last year? If you if 390 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: I don't know he was in a row, then that. 391 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 6: I don't know that he made the Combine, but I 392 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 6: know he was drafted by the CFL. He was drafted 393 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 6: in the UFL. And then obviously he played in Packers 394 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 6: preseason last year. 395 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 3: She played all right, Maybe because they have so many 396 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: initiatives and campaigns, maybe they should implement taking flag football 397 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: players through the combine. 398 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is this is whereas if this kid 399 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 6: is going to get a chance to go back or 400 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 6: go into the combine now after always spending a year 401 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 6: with the Packers. 402 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 7: Preseason, it's like, why do you limit it just to 403 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 7: this player? 404 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: He must have really worn go to the combine last 405 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: year and he's like, I'll show them. 406 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 6: And also it gives you any if it gives you 407 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 6: any indication of the traft class for quarterbacks. 408 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: Ah, He wrote a note. He wrote a letter. 409 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 5: Dantebo really changed it for everybody, like he really opened 410 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: up the doors for forgot. 411 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 7: He took one spot away and that was wells one. 412 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I would say you could look at I 413 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 6: mean arch Manning not having the entire season. I think 414 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 6: everyone thought he was going to have, even though he 415 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 6: played great in the second half of the season. And 416 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 6: he'll be one of those guys we talked about probably 417 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: after this upcoming season, Dante. More to your point, I 418 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: thought Dante Moore, and I've said it before, if he 419 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 6: would have come out, I think teams might have looked 420 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: at him. Despite all of Mendoz's success, there's are are 421 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 6: some teams that might have looked at him as the 422 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: higher end prospect. 423 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: Well, good luck to you know, the guy from Canada 424 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: or whatever who's going to the Combine. He'll be slinging 425 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 5: it around. Maybe maybe Prisco will get a up up 426 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 5: close look at him. I'm assuming school be at the 427 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 5: Combine in Indie. You make weight too many assumptions. I 428 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: think he's going to go. I'm not positive only because 429 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: they don't. Again, they don't like teams aren't even sending 430 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 5: as many guys anymore. So it's not viewed as big 431 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 5: of a deal outside of, you know, people in the 432 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 5: NFL community. 433 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 7: It is a big. 434 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 6: Event outside of the combine itself, there's all sorts of 435 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 6: convention and stuff going on. 436 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 5: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 437 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Coin, Jonas Knox 438 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 5: with you up next. 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Stop. 486 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 7: If you played great. 487 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: From what I watched, I saw, I. 488 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: Know he's gonna number one pick. Like it's it's almost 489 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 5: a foregone conclusion, like he's really really good. But you know, 490 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 5: cramping it happens, man. 491 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: Stop. I'm just saying that. 492 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: They knew he was long before he got to where 493 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: he's at. Yeah, that's just how basketball worked. If basketball 494 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 3: has always been a hague that was pre in ial, 495 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: that was in IL, when it was in IL before 496 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: in IL became in IL. 497 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 6: Right, And that's why, like last week, I don't know 498 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 6: that I articulated the idea of what's happening in college 499 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 6: sports and how to stop some of it. But I 500 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 6: feel like basketball needs to be treated separately. Men's basketball, 501 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 6: excuse me from football, Like you can't. 502 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 7: Lump them in theregether, and that's part. 503 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 6: Of the issue that we have because there's different like 504 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 6: horizons and timelines for when a kid like Darren Peterson, 505 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 6: for example, who could legitimately go up and play in 506 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 6: the NBA, and a kid who's in high school trying 507 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 6: to leave to go play in the NFL. 508 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 7: There's probably only a handful. 509 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 6: Of guys in the history of high school football that 510 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: you maybe could have made a case could do it. 511 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 6: And unfortunately what's happening in both sports is impacting the other. 512 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: LaVar you're mentioning Sphere in Vegas. Yesterday you assaulted an 513 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: old man for a fake apple. 514 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: I mean I verbally assaulted him, but something to that effect. 515 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: Thank you old man out there, whoever you are, I 516 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: appreciate you. 517 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: You're honest. So I'm just curious if you're going to 518 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 4: be at Sphere in Vegas coming. 519 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 5: Up September nineteenth for Mayweather Pakioo too. 520 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: All right, Right, when you. 521 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: Thought that only Mike Tyson, Let's Go, was the older 522 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: boxer going out there trying to make big time fights, 523 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 5: we got Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pakioo. Two September nineteenth. It's 524 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: Sphere in Las Vegas. It will be streamed on Netflix 525 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: I'm in. 526 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 4: I am in. 527 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 7: When's the last time Pacio fought? Did he fight something recently? 528 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 8: July? 529 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: He fought uh Mario? 530 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 7: But you liked how did you score that fight? 531 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 5: I had Pakiao winning, but that's only because I had 532 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: money on the fight. 533 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: But I was in Vegas for that fight. 534 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 5: And look, he fought a lot better than people thought 535 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 5: he was gonna fight. He hadn't fought in a long time. 536 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: Speed was still there, just the pace. He can't keep 537 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 5: it up for the entirety of the fight. 538 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: Like he used to. He just couldn't do it anymore. 539 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: Stop that, man, stop that, stop what It was still there? 540 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, the speed was still there. Watch the fight. 541 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, Oh god, it was still there, just 542 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 5: the pace. He couldn't continue it for the full twelve rounds. 543 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 5: But he's in his late forties at this point, so 544 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: I'll say this, He's fought more recently than Mayweather has. 545 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: I think it is ridiculous. The whole conversation I was 546 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: gonna ask this question, is this good for boxing? Is 547 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: this kind of sad in a way. It's it's it's 548 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: turning into WWF versus being real boxing, Like this is 549 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: just I don't want to call it ridiculous. I mean, 550 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: you have the right to do something that you love. 551 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: And if you can do it and make money off 552 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: of it and turn it into a spectacle and give 553 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 3: people an experience, I mean there's something to it. If 554 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: I could have saw George, Big George Foreman and Muhammad Ali, 555 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: even at the states that they were in later in life, 556 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: get back into the ring, like they would have had 557 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 3: to help Muhammad get to the ring that you know, 558 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: Big George would have probably made it to the ring 559 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: on his own unassisted, and we got to see them 560 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: get into the ring. And I'm not like it sounds 561 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: like a bit with it, which it is a little 562 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: bit of a bit, but in actuality and reality, to 563 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: see them and real life get back into the ring, 564 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: even if it was just to like stand there and 565 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: shake for the whole entire round and Big George move 566 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: around like there could be some value. There's value to 567 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: it because of what the historical value connected to it is. 568 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: But outside of this being and it should be labeled, 569 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: it should be marketed, it should be advertised as this 570 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: is an experience, because the reality of it is is 571 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: that like Rocky did it best, and Rocky what was 572 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: it rocky for, like when Apollo Creed did it back then, 573 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: which that's the model that this is right now. Exhibition. 574 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: But he chose to take an exhibition against a bigger, stronger, 575 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: younger dude and. 576 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 7: He guilt him. 577 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: Oh so you want death? No, I don't want death. 578 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: But don't market it as a real fight, like, oh wow, 579 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: don't market it as don't market these fights as real fights. 580 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: I believe, I don't believe this is an exhibition fight. 581 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: This is a real fight. 582 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 7: This is a real fight. 583 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. 584 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 6: Jordas, can you give us a reminder of what happened 585 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 6: the last time these two felt? I mean, I believe 586 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 6: Pakia was going in with an injured shoulder. 587 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, that people didn't really know about. He had a 588 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: torn rotator cuff, and you can see there was an 589 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: exchange in the fight where he reaggravated it and the 590 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 5: fight changed from that point on and Mayweather controlled him 591 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 5: like he does a majority of the time. Pakia had 592 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: moments and flurries here and there, but people were pissed 593 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 5: off because you remember that was the old pay per 594 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 5: view model back in the day, and I think they 595 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: were charging one hundred dollars for the fight, and once 596 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 5: people found out that Pakia went in with an injured 597 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 5: shoulder and was compromised, some people actually filed lawsuits to 598 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: try and get their hundred bucks back because they felt 599 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: like they were sold to Bill of Goods. But even 600 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: that fight, back then, they were past their peak years. 601 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: They'd been trying to get a deal done, but still 602 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: massive Fight. HBO and Showtime were both involved back when 603 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 5: they were still doing boxing. And so now we're going 604 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: to get it on Netflix. And look, the only thing 605 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 5: I would say is I was looking at the Calls 606 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: football slate for September nineteenth, and I mean, there's some 607 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 5: some good games. 608 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: It's football. I'm just saying there's you don't know, you 609 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: don't know what games are going to be good or 610 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: bet within. I well, you got names you may get Okay, 611 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: that's fair. Florida State Alabama, that's. 612 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: A great that's a great name matchup. 613 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: That's a good match up there. What about Georgia Arkansas 614 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 5: into Georgia. 615 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: Good, that's a good name matchup. Florida All Florida Auburn. 616 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean you gotta Now let's go to 617 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: the big ten here. Shoot, we got because I know 618 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 5: Penn State's got a fun matchup a daunting task, Penn 619 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: State hosting Buffalo. 620 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: How about it? Buffalo plays football, Michigan State Notre Dame. 621 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: There you go in South Bend. 622 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 7: In South Bend, all. 623 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 5: Right, the Hilltoppers are taking on the defending national champs 624 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 5: at Indiana. 625 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 4: There. Who's all right? 626 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 7: Bowling Green can Tucky? 627 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: Man, y'all said that, like I should know, you should know. 628 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: I don't know you up on game. In fact, I 629 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: won't even know about the end of this segments up 630 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: on game. I'll forget it before the segment is. You 631 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: can't use that quote. And I know Bowling Green, Kentucky, 632 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: dout Western. They sling that rock around man. Dang Colorado 633 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: giving you that high school quarterback talk right there. 634 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: Bailey down there, the way he's talking right now, that's 635 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: the that's the dude that like. 636 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 7: The biggest advocates for Bailey zappy. 637 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: I think what time I remember Bailey's app Oh yeah, 638 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: you wanted to get zapped? 639 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 7: Yeah you ay? 640 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: Jonas, don't get slapped out in this this studio, Bay, 641 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: I get that. I don't want to get don't try, 642 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: don't try break. 643 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: That is weird. That is weird that we wore the 644 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 4: same exactly. 645 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: That is some weird ass though, and the wowdest wow. 646 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: We'll have to post that on our Instagram. How that's man? 647 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: That that kind of creeped me out a little bit, 648 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: like are you in my bedroom? I text you did 649 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: not need to see what was going on in my troo. 650 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: I texted LeVar this morning. I was like, we're doing it. 651 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: He goes, you know what? 652 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: Blood? 653 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 8: All right? 654 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: You know we did it? 655 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: All right, let's get uh, let's get back on track 656 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 6: in regards to the fights we did. 657 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 7: Can can we acknowledge what this is probably about? 658 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah? Money? Okay? 659 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. The funny thing is, would you say the persons 660 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 6: are bigger now? Because I feel like they were huge 661 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 6: back then too. Let's do a little game. We have 662 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 6: any game show music? 663 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 5: I love game shows, okay, man, I love game shows. 664 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 6: Ready, okay, all right, now, I'm not going to go 665 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 6: through every individual fight, but I am going to ask 666 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 6: you guys, how much do you think Floyd Mayweather had grossed? 667 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 6: I mean, how much he made in his entire boxing 668 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 6: career up to this point. I've got an estimated number. 669 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 6: Go ahead, v eight hundred million? Okay, eight hundred million, Jonas, 670 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 6: what's your guess. 671 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say eight hundred and one million. 672 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 7: Oh and what the price is? 673 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 8: Right? Model? 674 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 6: Did dding Jonas knocks wins one point one to one 675 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 6: point two billion dollars? Knockslocks? Could you imagine spend that? 676 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 6: Is he forty eight. 677 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 4: And he's already forty eight years old, He's already spent. 678 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 7: He's like he needs to This is wild. It's wild 679 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 7: to me. 680 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 5: He's got that lawsuiting in showtime. He says they own 681 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 5: like three hundred and fifty million dollars, So that's pending. 682 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 4: Whatever that's going to be. 683 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: Is that included in that one point one billion? 684 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 7: Is that deo him? 685 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like, if his career earnings is 686 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 3: reported to be one point one billion, if you take 687 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 3: away three hundred million from that, which is still a 688 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: whole lot of money, but I mean. 689 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 6: That is that is the estimated number based on his 690 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 6: professional boxing career that includes the fight versus pay per 691 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 6: view revenue shares and promotions via the Mayweather Promotions, endorsements, appearances, 692 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 6: and exhibitions. 693 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like it could be feasible that 694 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: that it's a figure that he got to I know, 695 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: I mean he was that let that Canelo fight. 696 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: He made a lot of money. McGregor fighting made it. 697 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 6: And if you do like the time value of money, 698 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 6: like inflation adjusted, it's actually close for one point five. 699 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 7: All right, many Pakia? 700 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: How much do you think many Pakia made in his 701 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: boxing career? Probably like half a BILLI five hundred okay, 702 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: I'll say five hundred and one million, Jonas Knox wins again, 703 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: getting that's right. 704 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 6: Manipacia made five hundred and seventy five to six hundred 705 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 6: million dollars in his career. 706 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 3: To be, the funny thing is I gave us the 707 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 3: five hundred figure, you gonna go five hundred and one. 708 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 4: You wouldn't even know. I was gonna say, like ten grand, Well, 709 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 4: what do I know? I don't think in those terms. 710 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 5: But the thing about Manny Pacia for being fair, it's 711 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 5: all like he's been great with. 712 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: His money either. Like I was about Handler too, I 713 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 4: was gonna ask. 714 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 7: That because you've always brought this up. It's well known 715 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 7: what exactly are the issues that he's facing? 716 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 5: All right, So there's been so many Pacio was a 717 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 5: you know, a god fearing man. He's a completely different 718 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 5: guy now, but there was and levard I were actually 719 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 5: talking about this recently. There was a time where he 720 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 5: had a reputation that he would spend a lot of 721 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 5: hours in pool halls and he wasn't always alone, and 722 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 5: you know, he had h maybe some things on the side, 723 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 5: and there was a famous there's a I guess not 724 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 5: a well known story, but I believe the third of 725 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 5: the fourth fights that he had against Juan Manuel Marquez 726 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 5: in Vegas. 727 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: One of the reports I got knocked out. 728 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 5: Well, no, that he actually won that fight, but it 729 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 5: was controversial for those wondering. 730 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 4: I actually I had him winning at one fifteen thirteen 731 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: for those for those curious, but knocks I get nailed 732 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 4: that one yet. 733 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 5: But in that event, Pakia showed up to the fight 734 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 5: with Marquez the third of the fourth like forty five 735 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 5: minutes before the ring walks, which is like never happens, 736 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 5: and they were calling and calling, and the report was 737 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 5: that he was having a fight in the hotel room 738 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 5: with his wife. They were arguing about some marital stuff. 739 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 5: So he had like all sorts of things going on. 740 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 5: And later in his career, because he would give away 741 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 5: so much money, he was asking for advancements when he 742 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 5: would take fights, so you would ask for you know, 743 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 5: ten million dollars in advance whatever it was to be 744 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 5: able to pay bills and to be able to pay 745 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 5: for certain things because his entourage was so big, Like 746 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 5: if you watch any of those twenty four sevens, yeah, dude, 747 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 5: he had like like twenty five Filipinos in his house 748 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 5: that were friends and family at all times, at every 749 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 5: fight that had nothing to do with the fight, and 750 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 5: he was supporting all, well, your household tang oh today close? Yeah, 751 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 5: not the Philippines though, Yeah, where from. 752 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 3: From from the city? Hey man, you know linebacker you people? 753 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: So yeah, these guys clearly need wall over there. These 754 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: guys clearly need a few bucks going into this fight, 755 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: Which is kind of sad because is that. 756 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 6: Is that also a byproduct of and there are some 757 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 6: really good younger fighters, but for whatever reason, they just 758 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 6: have not been able to build their brands the same way. 759 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 6: Is that a byproduct of that of what the younger 760 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 6: fighters not being the younger fighters Like, there's still good 761 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 6: talented young fighters, right and real good boxing, they just 762 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 6: can't seem to like create the type of I don't know, 763 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 6: it's branding image that the way Mayweather did or Tyson 764 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 6: just because his style of fighting and all that. 765 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 7: Just it feels like there's not as big of draws. 766 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 5: HBO and Showtime pulling out of boxing change the game, 767 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 5: whatever anybody want to say. 768 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 3: Like, you only get a few that hit that meteoric rise. 769 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: You only get a few because there have been a 770 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: ton of really really dope boxers, really dope boxers, and 771 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: they they never reached that that level of fame and popularity. 772 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: So I don't think that's new and unique to to now. 773 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: I think to boxing fans, boxing fans know who who 774 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: the good ones out there are. But in terms of 775 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: mainstream I think boxing as a whole has and a 776 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 3: lot of it has to do with how it's marketed 777 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: and how it's it's you know, how it's advertised out there. 778 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: And HBO did a great job of selling fights in 779 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 3: selling fights at the public. Showtime did a great job 780 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 3: as well. But I just think boxing as as a 781 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 3: whole as a sport has taking a back seat to 782 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 3: to other sports. And and I'm and I would say 783 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: I would venture to say, like M M A has 784 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 3: probably replaced boxing in terms of relevance. 785 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 5: Short attention span, shorter fights, quicker round uh, less rounds. 786 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: But if you're paying. 787 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 3: Attention, like we just had a brilliant career in with 788 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 3: with Bud Crawford, you know, brilliant schakor Stevenson is is 789 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: a dope fighter. Givante was hitting there, but he just 790 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: can't stay what happened, Yeah, I mean he just can't. 791 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: He can't hold it together, man, Like, he just can't, 792 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 3: you know whatever, for one reason or another, however he'd 793 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 3: be feeling in the moments. It's it's kind of you 794 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: know reasons Johnson healthy, Yeah, I can't. He can't get 795 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 3: out of the boxing ring with with his with his chick. 796 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 5: Can't keep his hands off off female and not in 797 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 5: a good way. Yeah, yeah, not a good way, knock 798 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 5: at at all. 799 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's then you got ben Avita's out there, man. 800 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 3: Benavitaz is the one I like when I'm sitting there 801 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 3: thinking about the Russian killing killing Apollo Creed and like, 802 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: imagine if if Floyd said, yeah, I'll take a fight with. 803 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 4: Benavitas, Oh, I don't do that. 804 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 3: I would now that not only am I one. I'm 805 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 3: going I'm going to that fight. Give me a real fight, 806 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: give me a real fight. Even if you said, Okay, 807 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 3: Mike Tyson is coming back into the ring, he's gonna 808 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: fight Anthony Joshua, give me a real fight. I'll go 809 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 3: see Anthony Joshua versus Mike Tyson. I go see that, 810 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 3: like and I'd hate to see the destruction of Mike Tyson. 811 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 3: I would hate to see, but I would go see 812 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 3: because I believe that you're gonna get the best of 813 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 3: whatever that old version of Mike Tyson is. And you 814 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 3: gotta get the best from Anthony Joshua because you can't 815 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 3: lose to iron Mike at sixty some years. 816 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 4: Old, you can't do it. 817 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: I would go see. Mike would be destroyed. It would 818 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: destroy and Ben and and and Ben Avetez. 819 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. 820 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm not certain that Benavidez would destroy Floyd. I just 821 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 3: know Floyd wouldn't win. But I would be interested to 822 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: see if somebody could physically dominate Floyd Mayweather. Even yeah, 823 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 3: now he is he's like hitting light heavyweight. He fight 824 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 3: his last fights at light heavyweight. But at some point 825 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 3: they were you know, in that welterweight discussion, like light welterweight. 826 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 3: It could, it could happen. It's a possibility that that 827 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 3: could have happened. 828 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 5: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 829 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington bring. 830 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 4: Coming up next here though. 831 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 5: Bygones will be letting bygones be bygones in the world 832 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 5: sports does not exist for one of the all time greats. 833 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: You'll hear why next here on FSR. 834 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 835 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 836 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 837 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 838 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: Hey man, we really should do a kid's book based 839 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 3: around Patty Buruh Really? Oh yeah, what does that mean? 840 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 3: You'd be the perfect character for a kid book? Everybody 841 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 3: loves Patty, do they? I mean everybody except your except 842 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 3: Jonas's Twitter. Other than that, Other than that, you're good. 843 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 5: It's like the perfect professional wrestler hip gyration song, and 844 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 5: Patty loves it. 845 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 3: Oh he was gyrating his ass off? Yeah, hell yeah. 846 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 4: Patty's gotten more into it too. 847 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 5: Like I saw him yesterday, it looked like he was 848 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 5: trying to pull the MIC's hair for some reason. 849 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 4: He was doing it very. 850 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: I think Loraina caught on to the fact that we're 851 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: sitting over here making fun of them dance while they're dancing. 852 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: She I don't think she's gotten too into it since 853 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 3: she's she saw us like pointing at him. 854 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 4: Like, I'll tell you, man, you're judging my dance moves. 855 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 4: Sometimes it was a great, great song. I'll be sad 856 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 4: to see it go. But we are off and running. 857 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 2: Here. 858 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 5: It is hour three of the program here on this 859 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 5: Tuesday morning, and it's two Pros and a Cup of 860 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 5: Joe on Fox Sports Radio. You can find us on 861 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 5: the iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of 862 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 5: affiliates as we take you all the way up live 863 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 5: until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. If you 864 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 5: are listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. 865 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 5: And if you are a familiar with this show, you 866 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 5: know there's a superstar who makes an appearance each week. 867 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 5: He's a man who spits the truth, and we'll go 868 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 5: toe to toe with anybody on social media. 869 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 4: He's definitely a spitter. He is. 870 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 5: The one and only Pete Prisco, Senior NFL columnists or 871 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 5: CBS Sports, CBS Sports h Q analyst and you can 872 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 5: get him on AX at Prisco CBS peak. 873 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning, Pete. 874 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 8: I'm a spit, LeVar. 875 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, smack it up. 876 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's the Pete Frisco version though. 877 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, LeVar, you were a kid. Did you ever spin 878 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 8: on anybody? 879 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 5: Uh? 880 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: No, I did not. 881 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: No. 882 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 8: I thought that was always. I thought that was always 883 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 8: vile and disgusting. 884 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 4: Yeah it is. 885 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 7: But I bet you. I bet you didn't. 886 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 8: Pete never, not one. 887 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 7: Okay, it's shocking to me. 888 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 3: I was appealing to your freaks, sid not not not 889 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 3: your school. 890 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 8: I will, I will say, actually, I'm wrong. I did 891 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 8: spend one time. Oh oh, do you want to hear 892 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 8: the story? Yes, great story. 893 00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 894 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 8: This kid was a giant bully and he was like 895 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 8: an oversized kid like it was about, you know, a 896 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 8: couple of years older than me and all my friends. 897 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 8: And I was sitting on top of this like shed, 898 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 8: and he walked over and he was starting to bully everybody, 899 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 8: and I spit right in his face. Oh wo And 900 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 8: he got up on that thing and grabbed me and 901 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 8: put me in his arms and started carrying me out 902 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 8: to the lake, and everybody started chatting. Throw them in 903 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 8: the lake, throw them in the lake, and he proceeded 904 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 8: to throw me into the mud the lake. Yeah, that's 905 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 8: exactly true. 906 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 3: So then end well, I mean they always, like bully stories, 907 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 3: always end with the bully not being a real bully. 908 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: But your bully story really was a bully that executed 909 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: being a bully bully. 910 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 8: But the best part about that is is I went 911 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 8: running home, and you know, I was probably like six 912 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 8: or seven or something. I would running home and told 913 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 8: my dad this big, giant kid and of course, you know, 914 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 8: my dad he's running up there to see who it is. 915 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 8: And he goes and it's like, yeah, it's a bully 916 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 8: and he's a giant kid, but he's about like three 917 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 8: years older than me, and my dad couldn't do anything 918 00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 8: to the kid. 919 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 4: I had a body slat that kid. 920 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 8: But yeah, but you know what, the look you went 921 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 8: right in his eyes, so it was well worked. 922 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 4: Oh god, and. 923 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 8: Those are the worse was deep it deep into the 924 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 8: you know, in the throat, we had like power. 925 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 926 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's a great transition, Pete. I mean, 927 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 3: what what what what's your take heading into the combine? 928 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: Is it is it putrid or is it is it 929 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: going to be a good combine this year. 930 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 8: Well, I mean the combine itself is never worth what 931 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 8: people put into it, I don't think. And and you 932 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 8: know it's for all the meetings and that stuff and 933 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,240 Speaker 8: the interviews and that stuff, and the medicals. It's great, 934 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 8: but the actual on field stuff, I don't, you know, 935 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 8: for me, I don't get caught up at it. The tape. 936 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 8: The tape is what what does the work for everybody? 937 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 8: It should be. And see team's not come, I mean 938 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 8: like Jacksonville's not here, the rams aren't here. They're not 939 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 8: coming anymore because they don't they don't value the combine. 940 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 8: They'll send their scouts and stuff, but the people at 941 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 8: the top aren't coming anymore. So it's changing. And and 942 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 8: you know what, I've always thought it was overrated from 943 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 8: the on the field standpoint. I think it's great to 944 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 8: get in here and see people and talk to people. 945 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 8: But I think from then on the field standpoint, I 946 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 8: think they put too much effenis on it. 947 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been kind of echoing a little bit of 948 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 7: that as well. 949 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 6: I want to ask we brought the story of this 950 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 6: Tyler Elksmer, Elksman whatever, that is, a quarterback that was 951 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 6: apparently on the pre and the practice packers organization last year, 952 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 6: played the preseason. He's coming back to throw. I can't 953 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 6: think of another time where a guy who's a free agent, 954 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 6: who's kind of already had a shot at this and 955 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 6: I believe he's been drafting the CFL UFL would get 956 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 6: an invite to the Combine. 957 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 7: What do you make of that? 958 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 6: Is there is there gonna be potentially other position players, 959 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 6: you know, being able to come back to the Combine 960 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 6: after they've technically already had a shot. 961 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 7: I know he's an international players from Canada, but. 962 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's why its factors in bring. I 963 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 8: don't think it's going to be It's not like the 964 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 8: kid out of that basketball that played in the you know, 965 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 8: the G League and then came back and played and 966 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 8: had to get the court and jumped into all that. 967 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 8: I don't think it's similar to that. But no, I 968 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 8: think it's just because he's an international player and that's 969 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 8: why they're allowing him to do it. I don't think 970 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 8: it's going to be a trend or anything going forward, 971 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,720 Speaker 8: but you know what, are guys going to start opting 972 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 8: out of this thing? I mean, that's the next step. 973 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 6: I mean, well that that or ask him to be 974 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 6: paid for it. If you're the NFL and you want 975 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 6: to keep making this a TV event and you want 976 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 6: me there and you're to keep you, then they might 977 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 6: ask you compensated additionally for it. 978 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 7: Could they not? 979 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean absolutely, and not only that, or opt 980 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 8: out of it. I'm not coming. The player empowerment is 981 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 8: the real thing nowadays. You guys know that. So I 982 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 8: think down the road, what if you had thirty five 983 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 8: of the top players say okay, we're all going to 984 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 8: get the other benifers are going, and then they don't go, 985 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden, the NFL looks around 986 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 8: and goes, ooh what about our event? You know? So 987 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 8: I think you got to be careful with what you 988 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 8: do with this thing. By the way, I was talking 989 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 8: to somebody in NIL last night that's you know, directly 990 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 8: involved in it. In you know, with a program. I 991 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 8: am astounded by the amount of money. I mean, high 992 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 8: school kids are getting a million dollars. I mean it's 993 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 8: just incredible to me. And they all have agents and 994 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 8: they all have runners. 995 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 4: Well. 996 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 6: So so here's a little bit of the misconception that 997 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 6: the high school money and that those big dollars, it's 998 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 6: just coming from the school they're trying to attend. It's 999 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 6: it's the same recruiting that's gone on for a long time. 1000 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 6: It's just now we kind of know more about it 1001 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 6: instead of it being a guy with a you know, 1002 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 6: with a briefcase and a bunch of casts trying to 1003 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 6: get the kid to go to the school. 1004 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 8: Well okay, but okay, But if I'm an agent for 1005 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 8: the kid, I go to the school and I say, okay, 1006 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 8: my kid, we want a million, and the agent gets 1007 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 8: what ten? That is what I'm hearing. 1008 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, some cases more, Yeah, in some cases they try 1009 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 6: to take more. 1010 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 7: It's it's awful for the player. But yeah, I. 1011 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 8: Got my second career. I'm going to go all right, yep, yep, 1012 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 8: I'm gonna become an agent for the colleges. I'm gonna 1013 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 8: go get I'm gonna go like the American Heritage in 1014 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 8: South Florida, Stay Thomas, all the Miami schools. I'm gonna 1015 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,439 Speaker 8: load up on kids and tell them, look, you're gonna 1016 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 8: get millions. You come with me. And that's my second career. 1017 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 8: I'm going to be an agent for the high school kid. 1018 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 8: That's what it good for you? 1019 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 5: Good move yep, Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox 1020 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 5: Sports Radio. All right, so with all the there's, quarterbacks 1021 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 5: are going to be in different places this next season. 1022 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 5: We've got Kyler to uh justin Field's like all these guys, 1023 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 5: Malik Willis first one to be moved or to sign elsewhere, 1024 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 5: be traded elsewhere as who. 1025 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 8: Well, I think once free agency opens, I think Malik 1026 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 8: Willis will be the first one signed. And you know, 1027 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 8: or or Daniel Jones does his deal before even free 1028 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 8: agency starts. Back at the Colts, I don't think he's 1029 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 8: going anywhere. I think he's stay with the Colts. And 1030 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 8: I think Malik Willis then becomes the guy that teams want, 1031 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 8: which to me is strange. To be honest with you, 1032 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 8: I think, you know, we're in the quarterback desperation modes. 1033 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 8: And everybody will look at it and say, well, look 1034 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 8: what Sam Darnold did, they won a Super Bowl. Who's 1035 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 8: gonna the next Sam Dartele And the reality is probably nobody, 1036 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 8: probably none of them. And you look at the leak Willis. 1037 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 8: I mean, the guy has four stars of his career. 1038 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 8: Are we serious? I mean, all of a sudden he's 1039 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 8: going to get thirty million dollars a year. I saw 1040 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 8: where somebody put out there no name, Brady knows who 1041 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 8: it is, said he should get forty billion or forty 1042 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 8: five million dollars a year. Are you kidding me? What 1043 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,479 Speaker 8: are we doing here? I mean Mlik Willis and people 1044 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 8: put the other day somebody put up Oh look at 1045 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 8: all Milik Willis's plays. They put about twenty five of 1046 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 8: his plays, at least fifteen of them. He left clean 1047 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 8: pockets to go run around. I mean, give me a break. 1048 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 8: Is he better than he was? Absolutely? Is he a 1049 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 8: franchise quarterback that should getting thirty million dollars a year? 1050 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 8: No way, And so I think you're in desperation mode. 1051 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 4: Tell us what. 1052 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 8: Would you Okay, I'll go to another one. Oh, Matt Jones, 1053 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 8: he rejuvenated his career in San Francisco. Let's go pay 1054 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 8: give out a second round pick and go pay him. 1055 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 8: Did anybody want to the Jacksonville before? Yeah? Oh what? 1056 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:02,959 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1057 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 8: You never forget it, Brady. 1058 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 6: Never forget if Pete Presco told you half ust a Pete. 1059 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 8: Here's the problem Murray Kyler Murray aside from the contract, 1060 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 8: and he's at the most success of all of. 1061 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 7: Them, without a doubt. 1062 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 6: And I think he's the most tantalizing quarterback that is 1063 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 6: potentially able to be traded for or if it was 1064 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 6: to be released, to be signed. I was gonna ask 1065 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 6: you about him specifically. Like one of the things I 1066 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 6: posed to the guys is there's not many quarterback slots, 1067 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 6: Like the Raiders are probably gonna take Mendoza, So there 1068 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 6: goes one the Jets state of quarterbacks. That's I guess 1069 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 6: another team, Like who else do you really look at 1070 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 6: and say, is the Vikings? Are they going to give 1071 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 6: up on JJ McCarthy that quick? 1072 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 7: Is it? The Steelers? 1073 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 6: Knowing that you know if Rogers comes back, okay, it's 1074 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 6: probably for a year. Though, Like what destinations are you 1075 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 6: looking at saying yeah, like they need to solve this. 1076 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 7: I know Miami wants to move on from two. 1077 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 6: Doesn't seem financially feasible, Like there's not that many spots, right. 1078 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 8: And Pittsburgh has won if Rogers doesn't play, and you 1079 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 8: mentioned Miami, Miami has won, and you know there's the 1080 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 8: leak to the Packers skies and maybe they want Blik 1081 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 8: Willis And again, no, are you gonna get in the 1082 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 8: bidding war. What if Arizona, It's clear Arizona want's Belik Willis. 1083 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 8: If they want Blik Willis, you're gonna get the bidding 1084 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 8: war for the guy. I mean, here's the other part 1085 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 8: of it. Take your loves this year and go into 1086 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 8: the draft. If I'm the New York Jets, I'm taking 1087 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 8: my loves this year and I'm going into the draft 1088 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 8: and getting a quarterback next year. That's what I'm doing. 1089 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 8: And does Cleveland as Cleveland solve their quarterback situations? You're Brady, 1090 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 8: I mean, they're another team. 1091 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 6: Do they have no But but I also feel like 1092 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 6: they've got, you know, the Watson contract situation. 1093 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 7: Whatever you want to do with that. I it's gonna 1094 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 7: be crazy. 1095 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be back there after what the 1096 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 6: owner has said, and then shudor like has done enough. 1097 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 6: I think to warrant them keeping him there and seeing 1098 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 6: what he could become. Like again, it's a we. It's 1099 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 6: not a great class that there's just this whole thing 1100 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 6: feels like there's a lot of teams kicking the can 1101 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 6: down the road for another year. 1102 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 8: I agree, I agree, And you know what, you're better 1103 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 8: off just just taking your loves playing play. If you're Miami, 1104 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 8: play quinn Ewers, take your loves and move on to 1105 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 8: next year. That's what I would do if you're if 1106 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 8: you're the Jets, get a veteran whoever it is, you know, 1107 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 8: some not not giving up assets to go get them. 1108 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 8: Let them play for the year. You get beat up 1109 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 8: and you go to the draft, you get one next 1110 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 8: year because you're not solving it this year. And if 1111 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,280 Speaker 8: you go get one of those guys that's out there, 1112 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 8: is back Joe solving your quarterback issues? No is Milik 1113 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 8: willis No. So why would you go do that? It's desperation. 1114 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 8: Just be patient. And the problem is the coach can't 1115 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 8: be patient. The GM usually can be. And so that's 1116 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 8: where you get the rub. 1117 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 3: Pete And looking at the conversations that they're they're having 1118 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 3: around the competition committee, were you surprised and shocked that 1119 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 3: the push was not a major conversation this year? 1120 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 8: No, because you know why now more teams are starting 1121 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 8: to use it a uh and I think they realized 1122 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 8: that there wasn't as many injuries on that play as 1123 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 8: they tried to portray it as being. And so now 1124 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 8: where's your where's your rational apple getting rid of it. 1125 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 8: Do I like the play? 1126 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 9: No? 1127 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 8: Do I give credit to the Eagles for creating it 1128 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 8: and making it a part of their offense and successful. Absolutely, 1129 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 8: But I don't think you can have a real reason 1130 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 8: to take it away because there hasn't been the major 1131 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 8: injuries on that play that they try and say that 1132 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 8: there was or could be. So I don't think there's 1133 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 8: any real push to get it out of there, no 1134 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 8: pun intended, and I think it's going to be bad. 1135 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 4: That's good, That's pretty good. 1136 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 5: Pete Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior 1137 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 5: NFL COMERCE, CBS, Sports CBS, Sports HQ analysts. You can 1138 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 5: get them on x at Prisco CBS. All right, So 1139 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 5: where do you stand on the George Pickens that I 1140 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 5: know they want to franchise him. It feels like to 1141 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,919 Speaker 5: me this was where this was probably headed. But when 1142 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 5: you get in the George Pickens business, you can't be 1143 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 5: surprised if stuff goes sideways. So would you just go 1144 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 5: short term deal with him and then see how he 1145 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 5: behaves this year or would you just move on entirely. 1146 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 8: Wast tagged so he can't move on? 1147 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying like, would you would would you? 1148 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 5: Because I don't think they've officially placed the franchise. 1149 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 4: Tag on it. 1150 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 8: No, they will. They will though, and they're not allowing 1151 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 8: him to get the free agent market. So you put 1152 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 8: the tag on him and then you try to work 1153 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 8: at a long term deal with him. That's what you do. 1154 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 8: But if it's you know, not rational, then you let 1155 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 8: him play for the franchise tag. And there there's your problem. 1156 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 8: Maybe what is always you just mentioned it? What happens 1157 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 8: with George Picketts is on the franchise tag? Is he happy? 1158 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 9: No? 1159 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 8: Is he? Is he going to be a guy that's 1160 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 8: going to be a problem. Probably He's been that in 1161 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 8: the past, and so you worry about that. So I'm 1162 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 8: with you. I mean, that's part of the reason why 1163 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 8: the George Picketts experience is the George Picketts experience. He's 1164 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 8: a great player, he can make big plays now the field, 1165 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 8: but there's always that other side and you worry about that. 1166 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 8: And particularly when it comes to a situation where Cedee 1167 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 8: Lamb has been paid and George Pickens is playing on 1168 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 8: a franchise tag, you wonder how that plays out. So 1169 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 8: I'm with you. I think it's a. It's a concern 1170 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 8: for them, it's a concern for the organization. And I 1171 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 8: do think that if you hit free agency, that would 1172 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 8: be a concern for some teams as well. I mean, 1173 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 8: you'd be attracted by the play, but there's always that 1174 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 8: other side, and that always concerned you when you're paying somebody. 1175 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 7: Peter do you can't go on to the combine. 1176 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 8: I'm here, I'm at the combine right now. 1177 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 6: So all right, let's just go through the list of 1178 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 6: some of the people who like you that you'll talk 1179 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 6: to you. Obviously, the Bengals, you always defend them, So 1180 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 6: that's one of the teams. 1181 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 4: Who else are you? 1182 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 6: Are you going to be perusing around and yucking it up? 1183 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 6: A really yuck fest? 1184 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 8: It is, you know what, it's a young fest. And 1185 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 8: you know how many times I tell these coaches if 1186 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 8: I see him, quit going. 1187 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 7: What do you say? 1188 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 8: Would quit going for it on fourth down? It's okay 1189 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 8: to kick field goals, guys, it really is. 1190 00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 7: You know. 1191 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 8: Once in a while, particularly the guys in the playoff 1192 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 8: Sean Payton cost himself a playoff game. Leap Code cost 1193 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 8: himself a playoff game. Ben Johnson cost himself a playoff game. 1194 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 8: And Sean McVay kind of bots the game up in 1195 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 8: Seattle with his uh game management. So all four of 1196 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 8: you you went home because you boxed it. So it's 1197 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 8: time to start kicking field goals. It's okay to kick 1198 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 8: field goals. And somebody always says somebody always says, you 1199 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 8: wouldn't say that to them, and I go to hell, 1200 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 8: I wouldn't. I do you know me, I'll tell him 1201 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 8: right to say. I told me. Look, I told lip 1202 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 8: God at the Super Bowl. I said, Liam, and you 1203 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 8: know I got a bow to pick with you. He 1204 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 8: goes fourth down, right, I go absolutely, And he tried it. 1205 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 8: He explained it to me why he went for it 1206 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 8: that you know, it gets the bills when they kind 1207 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 8: of chance to go up ten to nothing and I 1208 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 8: go go up ten nothing. Of the playoff game, you 1209 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 8: have to take those points. 1210 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 5: Which head coach do you have the best relationship with 1211 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 5: that you might see at the combine? 1212 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 4: And which do you have the worst relationship with? 1213 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 8: Well, some of them, you know, the newer ones, I 1214 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 8: don't know very well. I don't know at all some 1215 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 8: of them. But who do I have a good relationship? 1216 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 8: I mean I got good relationship with a lot of guys. 1217 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 8: To be honest with you. You know, I've always had 1218 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 8: a good relationship with Sean Payton over the years, and 1219 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 8: you know not, let's put this way. It wasn't always good. 1220 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 8: It's become better because he used to scream and yell. 1221 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 8: He used to scream and yell at me back in 1222 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 8: the day, and I'm like, okay, that's fine, but. 1223 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 7: Yellow up. 1224 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 8: About it was something I wrote. I did a game 1225 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 8: in New Orleans and they won nine to nothing, and 1226 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 8: in his offense did nothing, and Greag Williams was the 1227 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 8: new coordinator, remember when he was the court down there 1228 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 8: and they shut out the Jets, And I wrote this 1229 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 8: whole story about what a mook Greg Williams, and and 1230 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 8: Sean was kind of when his offense wasn't good and 1231 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 8: he won, he was kind of like a receiver who 1232 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 8: didn't catch it. He passes. It was that too, we were, 1233 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 8: and I kind of portrayed it as that. And so 1234 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 8: I flew home the next day and I landed Atlanta 1235 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 8: because I was going back to Jacksonville, and I checked 1236 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 8: my messages and he's screaming and yelling at me. You 1237 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 8: read it, get that it is, so you know there 1238 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 8: were mobs there. So I called them back right away 1239 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 8: and I said, I said, Sean, when I was calling 1240 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 8: you the best play caller in the NFL, you called 1241 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 8: me screening and yell huh. These guys, they when one 1242 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 8: little thing can trigger them. And I never quite understood that, Brady, 1243 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 8: Why coaches could get so mad over one of the 1244 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 8: dumbest little things and let it bother them infestors so long. 1245 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 7: It just makes sense. 1246 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 6: The hypocrisy is they're always like boys, don't you know, 1247 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 6: don't give bulld to borat, don't read in any of 1248 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 6: that stuff. Never, you're never as good as you think, 1249 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 6: you never as bad as don't read into any of that. 1250 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 6: And then meanwhile they're spending time reading all these prescal things. 1251 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 8: You know what I'm thinking about it, I said to 1252 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 8: some of them, I said to some of them. Over 1253 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 8: the years ago, you went into the profession thinking you're 1254 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 8: going to be teaching pe and coaching high school football, 1255 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 8: making seventy grand a year, and you're making eight million 1256 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 8: dollars a year, and you're worrying about some works and 1257 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 8: something to like, like, I'm. 1258 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 4: Writing, good point is a good point? 1259 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 8: You're doing? What are you doing? 1260 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 3: Not a bad point. Pete Prisco, I'll tell you that. 1261 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 5: Peter, I wanted to ask you before I let you 1262 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 5: go about h if you'd like to take back any 1263 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 5: of a tweet that you sent over the weekend. Here 1264 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 5: we go, just from Crisco CBS. Yes, the hockey was fantastic. 1265 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 5: The look on the Canadian faces when they got the 1266 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 5: medals was amazing. As a Panthers fan, we've seen McDavid 1267 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 5: with that second place look before. 1268 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 9: Oh well, well know I'm not taking that back z 1269 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 9: it was a nice Thinger, Pete, what would you what 1270 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 9: would you say to all the Canadians who are moaning 1271 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 9: and saying. 1272 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 7: Well, we were the better team and three on three 1273 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 7: and overtimes not real hockey? Like, what do you say 1274 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 7: to all those people? 1275 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 8: Okay, first off, they were the better team. If they 1276 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 8: played like a Stanley Cup final, that team against that team, 1277 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 8: the Canadians would win. Period. They're the better team. They 1278 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 8: were the better team that day. They're the better team, period. 1279 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 8: But they didn't win. And you know what, three on 1280 01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 8: three hockey is an advantage to that Canadian teamater who's 1281 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 8: the best skater in the world? Nick game David, I 1282 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 8: mean and mccarr can skate the hell out of it. 1283 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 8: You kidding me. They're the better team, They're the better 1284 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 8: three on three teams. They just didn't stop the puck 1285 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 8: and then therefore they didn't win. 1286 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 6: And the real convenient didn't they win three v three 1287 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 6: and overtime to get to the gold medal game or 1288 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 6: or one of the matches before at some. 1289 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 8: Point Finland against Finland, and by. 1290 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 6: The way, you can't you can't say you hate it 1291 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 6: when it doesn't work out for you, but you know, 1292 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 6: and being able to sell the process. 1293 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 8: Finland, Finland might have beat it was up town up 1294 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 8: it should have beat them. And if Barkoff is playing 1295 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 8: in the in the for Finland, they probably do beat them. 1296 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 8: So the reality is, look, Canada, you didn't win it. 1297 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 8: The Americans won it. You should have won the game. 1298 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 8: You're the better team, I mean they were, they. 1299 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 6: Were syrup and move on, p U. Can you go 1300 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 6: back to how you originally said that, How do you 1301 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 6: phrase it? They were the better team? But it sounded 1302 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 6: almost like you were on the right side of the 1303 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 6: bet or something. It's not a little bit like that. 1304 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 8: No, Look I was I was all in on the 1305 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 8: United States. 1306 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 7: I was so happy they want. 1307 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 8: But the reality is, is anybody who watched that as 1308 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 8: a hockey fan that didn't think the Canadians were the 1309 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 8: better team, you need to get your eyes checked. Let's 1310 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 8: put it that way. They were the better team. There, 1311 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 8: he is the better and then, by the way, I'm 1312 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 8: not trying to get like somebody to send me a 1313 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 8: box of Tim Hortons or anything. I'm just stating the fact. 1314 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 3: So you know, it's impossible to be the better team 1315 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 3: when you lost. That's all I'll say. They might have 1316 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 3: been in theory, they might have been the more talented team, 1317 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 3: saying a lot of things that really I don't know, I. 1318 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 8: Don't I don't know if that one should be on 1319 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 8: a T shirt because that one was like, what do 1320 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 8: you say? 1321 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 3: It's it's totally rational, and you cannot be the better 1322 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 3: team if you lost, you cannot. 1323 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 8: You weren't the better team. No that that you weren't 1324 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 8: the better team. 1325 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Right, that's correct. So you were not the better team. 1326 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 3: You could have been the more talented team that lost, 1327 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 3: but you weren't the better team. 1328 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 4: You got it. 1329 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,479 Speaker 8: You watch it? Did you watch the game? LaVar? 1330 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 4: I certainly did. Pete. 1331 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 8: Okay, and let me ask you this if they played, 1332 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 8: if they played like best to seven, how many how 1333 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 8: many games did the Americans win? 1334 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 4: Uh, it doesn't matter because the one it. 1335 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 8: Won, But it doesn't matter. But in my question, I'm 1336 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 8: just saying tota out there, how many do you think 1337 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 8: they would win? 1338 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1339 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 3: Because I did not expect them to win that day, 1340 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 3: so I can't if I gave you an estimate a 1341 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 3: guestimation on it, it would be purely a guess. 1342 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 4: Right, Like, they won the game that they weren't supposed 1343 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 4: to win. 1344 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 3: So that just goes to show that they got to 1345 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 3: lace up their skates just like the Canadians had to 1346 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 3: lace up their skates. They had to lose their teeth, 1347 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 3: take hogsticks, just like the Canadians had to take hot 1348 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 3: sticks and lose their teeth, and they came away with 1349 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 3: the victory. 1350 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 4: To me, I want the victor. I don't want the loser. 1351 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 3: So whether they were the more talented team and could 1352 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 3: win more games out of seven games, that's fine. They 1353 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 3: won the one game that delivered them a goal, which 1354 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 3: made them the better team. 1355 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 4: That's why they got the better the better medal. 1356 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 3: Take that and stood higher up on on you know, 1357 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 3: on the platforms when when it was and and that's 1358 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 3: why the Canadians got weasels instead of gold medals after 1359 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 3: the match was over. 1360 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 4: They can't Pete with Canada. 1361 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 8: It was it was a miracle on ice. 1362 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I was that. 1363 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 6: I mean, you're old enough obviously remember that visited. Did 1364 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 6: that bring back a lot of like memories from that 1365 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 6: nineteen eighty win? 1366 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 8: No, that nineteen eighty team had no business winning that game. 1367 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 8: That Russian team was so talented, and that it was 1368 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 8: that that one. If they had played a best of seven, 1369 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 8: it would have been for to one. I mean that 1370 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 8: they had no business winning that game, but they won it. 1371 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 8: They weren't a better team they won it, But on 1372 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 8: that day they were the better team. That's all the matter. 1373 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 8: You're right, Lavari, you should put that on T shirt. 1374 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 8: You should definitely put that on the T shirt. You 1375 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 8: go with all your other bad slogans that you have. 1376 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 4: YEA, what y'all? 1377 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? 1378 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 5: They all show up, Pete. Well we'll do it again 1379 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:12,919 Speaker 5: next week. Enjoy Indy. 1380 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 4: How fun the cowboy? Pete? There he is. 1381 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 5: Pete Prisco Senior callum mister CBS Sports, CBS Sports, HQ 1382 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 5: analysts at Prisco CBS I bookends. 1383 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 4: It starts with Malik Willison. Why does he slam his 1384 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 4: phone when he gets off the phone though, like as 1385 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 4: he's an angry man. 1386 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I've worked with the guy for years. 1387 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 4: He's a crucial. 1388 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 7: He tries to act like he doesn't have all his 1389 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 7: paint pent up aggression, but he does. 1390 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 3: He spit a loogie in a kid's face and his 1391 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 3: eye ball. 1392 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 7: How old do you think he was? He remembers that 1393 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 7: like sixty years. 1394 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Pete was the bully though. That's what he failed to mention, 1395 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 3: and that like bullies meeting bullies is what happened. I know, 1396 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 3: regular student throwing a hawk in a dude's eye like that, 1397 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 3: that's that's still that's a bully that does that. 1398 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 4: That's a bully. 1399 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 8: You know. 1400 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 3: Prisco like he was walking around with his hands in 1401 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 3: his pockets like he does now, and he had followers, 1402 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 3: you know, they followed him. He was collecting lunch money. 1403 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 3: You know, he was distributed in chocolate milks. 1404 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,480 Speaker 4: Pizza day, Pizza day. 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