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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. It is Thursday, and it is the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show happening right now. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out with us, joining us all

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Speaker 1: across this land and for the digital listeners perhaps all

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Speaker 1: over the world. We have much to discuss with you today.

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Speaker 1: A study out. Clay just sent this to me. I

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Speaker 1: thought this was very interesting that Murk says there's a

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Speaker 1: COVID drug links. This is in Bloomberg, so this is

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Speaker 1: as of February first, twenty twenty three, just broke yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The headline is Murk COVID drug linked to new virus mutations.

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Speaker 1: According to study, so far the versions aren't more lethal

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Speaker 1: or immune evasive, but Murk is study. Murk is disputing this,

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Speaker 1: saying the drug is very valuable. I do think that

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Speaker 1: as we go forward with all of this, when it

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Speaker 1: comes to COVID, we have to remember the people who

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Speaker 1: up to this point have said, shut up, do what

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Speaker 1: we tell you. We have the answers, and the more

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Speaker 1: vociferously they have made those claims, the more catastrophically and

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Speaker 1: blatantly wrong they have been there's also, Claire, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: excited about this one too, a massive met mega study,

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Speaker 1: meta study, whatever you want to call it of masking

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Speaker 1: that has come out pure reviewed medical journal. Guess what

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Speaker 1: you find out from that one? Oh yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Masking does if not nothing ninety nine percent nothing as

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Speaker 1: in so small that statistically you can't prove it. So

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Speaker 1: if you can't prove something because it's so statistically insignificant,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say it doesn't work, right.

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Speaker 1: I think we can go to that level. And Clay,

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Speaker 1: I want to dive into both of these things in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, you know, there's that

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Speaker 1: old old line about Hubris. I camera exactly where it comes.

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Speaker 1: But Hubris is I'm sorry, no, hutspa, not Hubris. Hootspa

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Speaker 1: is if you kill your parents and then tell the

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Speaker 1: judge that you deserve mercy because you're an orphan. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's this old line that that is what hudspa is.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden has hudspa. You may use a different word

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Speaker 1: because you were Clay, but you know, because you like

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Speaker 1: to say the things, I'm like, are we allowed to

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Speaker 1: say that on the radio? Right? He's got some something

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Speaker 1: on him for sure. Hunter Biden now has his lawyers

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Speaker 1: saying that they that federal and state prosecutors should open

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Speaker 1: criminal investigations, criminal investigations into people who shared the laptop

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Speaker 1: and the information of this. He wants investigations of Rudy Giuliani,

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Speaker 1: Steve Bennon, John mack Isaac who owns that computer repair shop,

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Speaker 1: and Biden. Of course, in this process, Hunter Biden is

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Speaker 1: There was no Russian disinformation. I gotta think, Clay, that

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Speaker 1: this is because he's worried at this stage about something.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you think is why is

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Speaker 1: Hunter all of a sudden, is this trying to run

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Speaker 1: a smoke screen for Dad with the documents? Like why

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Speaker 1: is there pressure? Is he worried about what's in the

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Speaker 1: classified documents because he's going on offense and he's in

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Speaker 1: no position to do so. Yeah, it's fascinating. So the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post broke this story, and you may not have

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Speaker 1: seen it because it didn't necessarily get a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: But the biggest takeaway is and I think this is

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Speaker 1: the big deal. Miranda Divine is with us, who did

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Speaker 1: the laptop stories for The New York Post and also

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Speaker 1: wrote a book, Laptop from Hell, all about Hunter's laptop,

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Speaker 1: and she also did a deep dive set with me

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Speaker 1: in the podcast show with Clay and Buck. You can

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Speaker 1: go listen to that. But but the most important thing

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Speaker 1: hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Even in his own book and

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Speaker 1: in the interviews he did promoting that book, Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: there this is a direct quote from the letter. They're

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Speaker 1: in disseminating stolen property. The action I'm reading directly from

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Speaker 1: the letter. The actions described above more than merit a

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Speaker 1: prosecution under various statutes. It's not a common thing for

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Speaker 1: The letters, they say, are focused on John Paul Maciaac,

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Speaker 1: want Rudy Giuliani, Giuliani's lawyer, Stephen Bannon. It even they

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Speaker 1: wrote a letter to Tucker Carlson threatening Tucker Carlson on

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Speaker 1: Giuliani's attorney does raising concerns now after so many years

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Speaker 1: indicates just how devastating the text and videos from Hunter's

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Speaker 1: laptop truly are. And and so this is I gotta

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, Buck, It's rare that I'm surprised.

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Speaker 1: This is to me a crazy move by Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: And we know Hunter Biden has passed been crazy. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's driving this train of subterfuge, I

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Speaker 1: that was his best defense. Now it's it's real, and

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't have been distributed, and there's distribution of my

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Speaker 1: private property is criminal. Well that's a pretty aggressive shift

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Speaker 1: in his overall narrative. And the question you're asking is

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Speaker 1: I think a really good one, Buckets. Why is he

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Speaker 1: doing this, who is advising him on this, and what

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Speaker 1: does he stand to gain from it? And that's where,

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Speaker 1: can't understand what he is gaining in this process, Buck,

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Speaker 1: Because maybe your argument is, oh, I'm gonna put the

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Speaker 1: doesn't add up to me at all. It obviously muddies

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Speaker 1: If it's on a company laptop, it's the companies effectively, right,

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Speaker 1: they can make that claim. Now Hunter Biden left his laptop,

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Speaker 1: as I understand it, after a certain period, that laptop

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Speaker 1: you can't throw that out. I'm gonna sue you, and

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Speaker 1: so I don't think that he's on has as any

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Speaker 1: none of this really moves the needle, meaning it doesn't

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Speaker 1: it doesn't change anything about the regime whether Hunter. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get indicted, obviously, I thought

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Speaker 1: Then it's I don't know if to buy laptop or not.

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Speaker 1: adversaries of his father. That's where I would see this

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Speaker 1: to me, it's indicative that he's facing more peril, because otherwise,

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Speaker 1: Her book Laptop from Hell, laid out what we now know.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think their legal strategy is particularly

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Speaker 1: For a long time, Hunter tried to kind of hide

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Speaker 1: That feels I think you're right somewhat muddying the waters.

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Speaker 1: It's a vast conspiracy theory concocted to try and you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like Hunter Biden when he goes on

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Speaker 1: they would do that, No doubt. Miranda, fantastic stuff. As always,

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Speaker 1: So Devana Ronda Santis is continuing to rack up some

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Speaker 1: wins on the policy front. And I do think you

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Speaker 1: see that while there's all this discussion about what his

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Speaker 1: next moves could be, in the meantime, all he does

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Speaker 1: is win. Clay, he actually could have that as his

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Speaker 1: theme song. I'm not sure if that's actually the title

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Speaker 1: of the song, but it is certainly it's a great song. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all Ron does is win as It's just kind of

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Speaker 1: a fun one. But you know, the the left was

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Speaker 1: saying that they didn't well, first they said they wanted

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Speaker 1: to ban gas stoves, and they they they rolled that out.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a very popular idea. I have an electric

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you you don't even cook,

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Speaker 1: you don't boil water, so you don't you don't have

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Speaker 1: any opinion? Email I got from the one of our

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Speaker 1: listeners who was furious of all the things that I've

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Speaker 1: ever said on the radio show, the fact that I

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Speaker 1: don't cook, that I don't boil water. The fact that

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Speaker 1: I'm not that I just don't do that was like

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Speaker 1: beyond the pale every other thing, every other opinion I've

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Speaker 1: had in two years, she didn't care about. This was

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Speaker 1: like the unacceptable one. I think the one of the

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Speaker 1: angriest emails I ever received from a listener many years

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Speaker 1: ago was from my claim that Bruce Springsteen was highly

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Speaker 1: overrated that I stay with that set people off. I

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Speaker 1: think you're right, Yeah, they're highly overrated a certain segment

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Speaker 1: of Northeasterners right, because I would say, hits fan basics.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of New Jersey friends. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: this guy was clearly from Jersey. It hit home. I

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Speaker 1: get it. But you know, you can call them the

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Speaker 1: boss all you want, but really, removing the sales tax

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Speaker 1: on gas stoves play eleven. We just added because I

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Speaker 1: think it needs to be done. No tax permanently on

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Speaker 1: gas stoves. They once your gas stove, and we're not

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Speaker 1: going to let that happen. And we're not even a state.

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Speaker 1: The way Florida was built, a lot of this wasn't

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Speaker 1: even connected the gas lines. You've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: electric stuff. But it's just the principle of you know

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Speaker 1: this is ridiculous that they and they do want to

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Speaker 1: go after it. They got blowbacks, so they kind of

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Speaker 1: had to back off. They want to go after the

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Speaker 1: gas stoves, and so we're saying, you know, we want

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Speaker 1: you to be able to buy those free of charge

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Speaker 1: from from the state of Florida. You know, I like this.

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Speaker 1: I know people might say they could they could kind

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Speaker 1: of dismiss it as, oh, it's it's a minor thing,

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Speaker 1: or they could say it's just messaging. But when a

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Speaker 1: governor does things that show an immediate responsiveness to the

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Speaker 1: agenda of the left, not just in word, but indeed,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying just Antis are the only one

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Speaker 1: who does this, but he is certainly at the forefront

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Speaker 1: of this. You know, it's not oh, I'll get to that,

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Speaker 1: we'll have a legislative session in twelve months and it'll

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Speaker 1: be packed into No, it's let's do something right now

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Speaker 1: to show everybody what side of this issue we stand on.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where we need to be. While people

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Speaker 1: care and are focused on something like gas stove bands,

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Speaker 1: he's saying, I'm drawing a line and taking action to

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Speaker 1: so what show what side of the issue. As a

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Speaker 1: governor I'm on, I think this needs to be the model. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look what I like about De Santis's leadership style, and

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Speaker 1: I think you can go back to the battle with

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Speaker 1: Disney is a lot of people are afraid of negative news.

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Speaker 1: And basically with Disney, Ron De Santis just got into

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Speaker 1: a fight with the biggest, baddest person right, Disney, in

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Speaker 1: his entire state, and he whipped Disney's ass. And then

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Speaker 1: the message that that sends is when you beat the

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Speaker 1: baddest ass dude's ass, then not a lot of other

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Speaker 1: people are gonna step to you. You are sending a message, right,

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Speaker 1: And so DeSantis is good about sending messages, but he's

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Speaker 1: smart enough buck to know the details of the message

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Speaker 1: that he's sending. Like with this ap history battle in

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Speaker 1: Florida over black history, right, most people would not read

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Speaker 1: the curriculum. And this is not just a santist, this

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Speaker 1: is his staff. I've been saying this in a very

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Speaker 1: favorable way. He surrounded himself by a lot of nerds, right,

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Speaker 1: smart nerds that actually can fight, and that's a rare combo.

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Speaker 1: And what they're doing is they're looking at details and

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Speaker 1: they're finding out, hey, wait, we got to fight this

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Speaker 1: woke ideology in schools. How do we do it. Let's

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Speaker 1: look at the actual curriculum, their details to support the

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Speaker 1: decisions that he's making. And that is important. That's how

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Speaker 1: you stack wins in the messaging that you're sending. Because

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Speaker 1: if you're feud with Disney and you'll send a message

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Speaker 1: to the ap about what they can do with black

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Speaker 1: history in your state, then you're sending a message that

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Speaker 1: is resonating in many other areas as well. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: what happens when you stand up to the bully, the

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Speaker 1: perceived biggest person in the room. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: just watching their day two Stone. I know people don't

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Speaker 1: consider it to be one of the truly great Western's. Fine,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not. It's not the good, the bad,

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Speaker 1: and ugly. It's not you know, the um you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the so called spaghetti westerns that became so popular.

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Speaker 1: But I remember that scene where Billy Bob Thornton is

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Speaker 1: the card dealer and Kurt Russell walks in. First of all,

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Speaker 1: he tells at him skin that smoke wagon, like pull

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Speaker 1: pull of your gun, and he doesn't, and then he

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Speaker 1: and then he you know, whacks him across the face.

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Speaker 1: He's like, are you just gonna stand there and bleed? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good scene. It's the bully got the bully

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Speaker 1: got slept. If you are willing to step up to

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Speaker 1: the bully, it's an old school everybody out there who

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Speaker 1: remembers it, it's a big deal. If you step to him,

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Speaker 1: the bully and you beat him up. That's what DeSantis

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Speaker 1: did to Disney. And I think, look, I was looking

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Speaker 1: what we were talking during a break. I just tweeted

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Speaker 1: this headline out. I think you're starting to see a

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Speaker 1: lot of winds get stacked up. Uh. This is from

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg as well. The layoffs sweeping the tech industry are

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Speaker 1: gutting diversity and inclusion departments. And I walk about the

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Speaker 1: ultimate corporate corporate excess and the sort of the fluff

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Speaker 1: in the budget that you could find, yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion offices and officers, which which you find,

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Speaker 1: by the way, in the education bureaucracy. People wonder where's

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Speaker 1: all the money going in public education. It's going to administrators.

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Speaker 1: Administrators out number in terms of additions. And I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: basing this off of reading I've done in years past,

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Speaker 1: but something like six or seven to one clay for

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Speaker 1: every one teacher that is added to the average American

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Speaker 1: school district. Over the last I think it's ten or

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Speaker 1: fifteen years, there's been six administrators. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of it is just people pushing paper around from one

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Speaker 1: desk to another, doing diversity and inclusion training or whatever

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Speaker 1: the case may be. And you know, Rohn de Santis

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Speaker 1: talking about the winds we're seeing here, and we bring

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Speaker 1: this up, by the way, not this isn't in the

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Speaker 1: context of oh, twenty twenty four right now. No, No,

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Speaker 1: this is what's happening now and what other Republican governors

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Speaker 1: should also be looking to do. Let's make it about governance.

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Speaker 1: We all know now and in the post COVID era

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Speaker 1: governors matter. If you're a red state governor with a

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Speaker 1: Republican majority legislature, you've got to get things done. Can't

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Speaker 1: just be business as usual. You've got to look at

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Speaker 1: what has been done basically wrong by Democrats in the past,

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Speaker 1: set things right on the ap curriculum controversy, it's not

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Speaker 1: a controversy at all. But DeSantis, there's there's now laws

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Speaker 1: that have been passed in Florida that don't allow for

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Speaker 1: CRT in school, for example, and the Florida as a

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Speaker 1: state rejected the what is it the college board that

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Speaker 1: that created the ape in African American studies, what the

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Speaker 1: left is saying, what the left is claiming is, oh,

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Speaker 1: but this is a rejection. Actually, we have somebody who's saying,

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Speaker 1: why don't we let's play at a university Howard University

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Speaker 1: professor Taylor play twelve. So it's very anti intellectual for

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Speaker 1: anybody to try to erase certain parts of black studies,

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Speaker 1: the black culture, black history because they particularly don't like

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Speaker 1: it or think it's controversial to them. There's a whole

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Speaker 1: segment of our community that identify as a black queer.

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Speaker 1: And moreover, the reparations movement and the Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 1: movement are important social movements in African American life and culture.

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Speaker 1: I did not hear about him criticizing the European History

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Speaker 1: Exam or even the Japanese Language and Culture Exam. Just

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Speaker 1: this one, Okay, Well, that's because this one included, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, it has already been amended and has

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Speaker 1: already the new curriculum has already approved. It's just the

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Speaker 1: state of Florida is like we don't want and these

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Speaker 1: are directly taken. These are modules from what was rejected

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Speaker 1: Black queer studies, post racial racism, the case for reparations,

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Speaker 1: and other such modules are that's not learning, that's indoctrination.

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Speaker 1: Those are highly ideological things teaching high schoolers. Yeah, it's theory.

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Speaker 1: And as somebody who was a history nerd myself, who

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Speaker 1: majored in history in undergrad and took a lot of

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Speaker 1: these APE courses, I mean, this woman doesn't understand what

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Speaker 1: she's talking about. European history tells you what happened in Europe.

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Speaker 1: That's European history. Black history in AP courses can tell

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Speaker 1: you what's happened in black history, but it doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to have like graduate level theorizing on the role of

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Speaker 1: race in America and how it's impacted the gay black experience, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are post grad very advanced courses if

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Speaker 1: you want to get into them. And for anybody out

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Speaker 1: there who's ever gotten into graduate school or taken graduate courses,

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00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: you increasingly study less and less relevant things. Frankly, the

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Speaker 1: higher up the educational spectrum you meet move in humanities.

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Speaker 1: This is I thought about being a history professor for

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Speaker 1: a while Buck. I think it would have been a

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Speaker 1: great life. I taught creative writing at Vanderbilt. I think

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Speaker 1: it would have been fun. But in history in particular,

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Speaker 1: you specialize to such a degree that you end up

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Speaker 1: focusing on like one day of the Battle of Gettysburg,

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Speaker 1: and at some point, as much fun as I love

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Speaker 1: the Battle of Gettysburg and studying it, you get so

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Speaker 1: bogged down in tiny details that you miss bigger picture issues.

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Speaker 1: And when you're in high school, you should be learning

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Speaker 1: the bigger, bigger picture issues. If you had to teach

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Speaker 1: an entire year long college course on one battle in

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Speaker 1: all of history, would it be Gettysburg? What would it be? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it would be Gettysburg. Gettysburg right off the bat. See.

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Speaker 1: I think i'd probably do the Battle of Lepanto fifteen

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Speaker 1: seventy one. I don't know enough about the Battle of

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Speaker 1: Lepanto at all. I think you've mentioned it before. I

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Speaker 1: would go Gettysburg one, the second one. And for the

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Speaker 1: military historians out there, probably the most fascinating battle from

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Speaker 1: the Civil War was Chancellorsville because of the decisions made

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Speaker 1: by Lee and Stonewall Jackson and the way that he

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Speaker 1: divided his army and anyway. I could go on and

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Speaker 1: on about all this, but that era I would love

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Speaker 1: to teach a course on. Yeah. Maybe maybe, maybe you'll

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Speaker 1: just do a long podcast series and put it in

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Speaker 1: the claiming buttet feed there. Miss Cilly podcast series will

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Speaker 1: probably do pretty well. Just thrown it out there. If

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Speaker 1: you're a gun owner, you know you have to keep

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Speaker 1: It is groundhog Day Punk to Tony Phil One of

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Speaker 1: the great movies ever been made. Groundhog Day with Bill

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Speaker 1: Murray's is Bill Murray's best movie. You think Ghostbusters one

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Speaker 1: is Bill Murray's best movie in terms of just watching

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Speaker 1: over and over again. And obviously it's the conceited The

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Speaker 1: movie groundhog Day is really good. I was laughing this

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Speaker 1: morning and our staff lifted up build a. Blasio was

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Speaker 1: an awful mayor. But there are lots of different groundhogs

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Speaker 1: all over the country. Actually, Evidently I didn't know this.

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Speaker 1: Georgia has their own groundhog and he lives in like

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Speaker 1: this is funny and ridiculous. He lives in like a

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Speaker 1: plantation style house and his name is Beauregard Lee, named

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Speaker 1: after obviously two different Confederate generals, which is really funny

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Speaker 1: and like it. Evidently it was trending on Twitter today

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Speaker 1: as people became aware that Georgia has their own groundhog

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Speaker 1: named Beauregard Lee, and Beauregard Lee said that they're not

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Speaker 1: going to have much longer of a winter, which is

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Speaker 1: a good one for the Southerners out there that are

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Speaker 1: dealing with ice, including the Nashville area where I live.

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Speaker 1: We got ice everywhere, but Mayor build a Blasio in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, he was trying to hold up the groundhog

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Speaker 1: and he accidentally dropped it and the groundhog died. This

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Speaker 1: is this is sound killed it? I thought he just

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Speaker 1: heard it. Yeah, he's the groundhog murder out yeast. The

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Speaker 1: groundhog died a few days later after the after the fall.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they had to put him in

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Speaker 1: like ICU or what it was, but this is this

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Speaker 1: is funny. Stats. So Staten Island, we appreciate everybody listening

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Speaker 1: out there on Staten Island. You say you play in

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Speaker 1: the New York area, the Staten Island represents Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck strong. Lot of people in Staten Island, A ton

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Speaker 1: of you listening out in Staten Island right now. They

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Speaker 1: had to change the policy to no longer allow anyone

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Speaker 1: else to pick up the groundhog after the killed the

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Speaker 1: groundhog's rule. It's like, it's like, don't pick up my

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Speaker 1: groundhog or try to touch my dog, because you know,

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Speaker 1: no animals like you. So Staten Island, Chuck uh, it

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Speaker 1: was actually Charlotte was the one that he dropped, and

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Speaker 1: so they redid it and now the mayor is not

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Speaker 1: allowed to lift the groundhog anymore. But so it's Groundhog Day.

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Speaker 1: Depending on the part of the country that you live in,

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Speaker 1: you either got six weeks more of winter or it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be over sooner. You can gamble on this. Evidently

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Speaker 1: out there too, so different groundhogs giving us a different

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Speaker 1: forecast going forward. But as I was, as I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about how crazy it is that Deblasio killed the groundhog,

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Speaker 1: I also was thinking about how crazy it is. Did

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Speaker 1: you know Buck that Stephen Colbert's audience still is wearing masks.

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Speaker 1: And he did a joke the other day saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: Biden says COVID's gonna be over May eleventh, and then

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Speaker 1: he cut to his crowd. And if you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: this video, I tweeted it out at Clay Travis. We'll

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Speaker 1: put it up on Clay and Buck as well. Entire

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Speaker 1: crowd of woke white people all wearing masks in Stephen

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Speaker 1: Colbert's show. And I believe the View, which is the

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Speaker 1: dumbest show on television, they still require their studio audiences

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Speaker 1: to be wearing masks too. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring this up was they had a brand new,

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Speaker 1: massive study on whether masks work and it involved six

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand different people. I do have the details of

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Speaker 1: all this. Yeah, well, it's really a study of studies.

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Speaker 1: You know how you can invest in a fund of

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Speaker 1: fund where you putting money in, and it's putting money

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Speaker 1: in all these different funds. This was a research group

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Speaker 1: of international doctors who looked at seventy eight different masks studies.

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Speaker 1: This is the peer reviewed Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews.

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you, you you tell a lady that

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Speaker 1: you work for the Cochrane Database of Systematic Review. You're

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Speaker 1: getting a phone number at the bar. My friends, that's

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Speaker 1: exciting stuff. It is a lady killer that job. But

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Speaker 1: they looked at this and what they found, well, you

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Speaker 1: can tell everybody the results. But they looked at seventy

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Speaker 1: eight studies randomized control trial studies so RCT studies, which

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Speaker 1: are the most rigorous hypotheses, are a most rigorous method

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Speaker 1: of testing hypothesis. And they found that masks have virtually

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Speaker 1: no impact. And I want to give a shout out.

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Speaker 1: You can read some of this study. Ian Miller has

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Speaker 1: been he's at ian MSc. I found him on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: had never met him before. He puts up some of

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Speaker 1: the greatest graphics on how much masks fail. And he

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Speaker 1: has done tremendous work on this, and I started. I

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Speaker 1: found him during COVID buck and you know, for instance,

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Speaker 1: he would compare Orange County. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: listeners out in the LA area. Orange County had relatively

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Speaker 1: lax mask standards compared to LA County. They're side by

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Speaker 1: side counties out there, and there was virtually no statistical difference. Right.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Orange County actually had a lower incidence of

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Speaker 1: COVID than La count where I live. Nashville. Davidson County

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Speaker 1: had a very stringent mask requirement. Williamson County, which is

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Speaker 1: the Franklin Brentwood area for those of you who know Nashville,

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Speaker 1: had very lax masking standards, no difference at all in

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Speaker 1: the schools in terms of the amount of COVID. So

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Speaker 1: the data has overwhelmingly reflected if this doesn't work. And

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Speaker 1: so when I look and I see that video, that

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Speaker 1: shot of the Colbear audience, all of those people right

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Speaker 1: now would if they heard this radio show, be thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at all those stupid redneck Donald Trump voters not

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Speaker 1: wearing masks, not getting the COVID shot. And yet they

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Speaker 1: are the ones who are anti science. They are the

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Speaker 1: sheep who support whatever the new new thing is that

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Speaker 1: their government tells them they need to. And it was

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Speaker 1: an interesting little metaphor to me buck of the destruction

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Speaker 1: of comedy, because Colbert's joke basically was COVID's not over.

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Speaker 1: Ha haha. Look at how my audience is still wearing masks.

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Speaker 1: But Colbert's show's not funny. But it's also now really

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Speaker 1: sad because if you're wearing a mask in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three to watch a comedy show. You are fundamentally broken

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Speaker 1: in your brain, and it's like you're so committed to

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Speaker 1: the falsehood that you bought into that you can't acknowledge

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Speaker 1: what reality reflects. You know, Clay, There's there's a book

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Speaker 1: called Breath that I think is very interesting just about

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Speaker 1: how we can't we've we've sort of lost an understanding

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Speaker 1: of how important breathing really is, meaning the depth of

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Speaker 1: your breathing through your nose or through your mouth. It

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Speaker 1: affects how you sleep at night, it affects your anxiety level,

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Speaker 1: it affects your mentality. How you breathe and what you're breathing,

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00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: but specifically how you breathe is really really important for

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Speaker 1: overall wellness and health. Anybody who understays you can do

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Speaker 1: this yourself. You're really stressed, take take ten deep breaths.

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Speaker 1: And I know it sounds very kind of New Age,

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Speaker 1: like I'm sitting here hitting a bunch of wind chimes

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Speaker 1: or something. No, no, it's science. It actually is science.

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Speaker 1: And they just on that alone, this pretense that masking

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Speaker 1: up never had any there was never any downs, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's not a big deal and actually is a really

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Speaker 1: big deal. It's very uncomfortable, it raises anxiety levels, it

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Speaker 1: is effectively psychological torture in slow motion for anybody who

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Speaker 1: realizes how stupid it is. And you know, they also

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Speaker 1: just were talking about studies. Study just came out earlier

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Speaker 1: this week, that mask law. You know, that mask wearing.

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Speaker 1: This was an a journal nature that it worsens dry eye,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't sound like that that big a deal until

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Speaker 1: you realize for some people, dry eye is really painful,

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Speaker 1: and so wearing a mask all the time, if you

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Speaker 1: were a dry eye sufferer was making your eyes worse.

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Speaker 1: It didn't keep you safe from COVID at all, raise

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Speaker 1: your anxiety level and gave you more eye pain than

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Speaker 1: you would have otherwise had. And they pretended the whole

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Speaker 1: time like, oh, it's fun just weird, Clay, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know it's funny. Actually I spoke to Leilani Doubting,

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Speaker 1: who got you know, the Daily Mail went after her.

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Speaker 1: This is on the Clay and Buck feed. We did

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Speaker 1: a deep dive podcast. There was a hit pieces on

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Speaker 1: her because she was a mask and vax and lockdown skeptic,

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Speaker 1: just a British celebrity, but who was like, I think

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Speaker 1: this stuff is dumb. She was totally totally right. But

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Speaker 1: even she said this double masking thing that was going

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Speaker 1: on for a while in America, they didn't really do

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Speaker 1: that in the UK, even like the double masking thing

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Speaker 1: was a pretty uniquely American psychosis on the world stage,

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Speaker 1: and it was because the only reason they went to

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Speaker 1: that was because the single masking was so obviously a failure,

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Speaker 1: so they just created How many years do you think

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Speaker 1: it would take for people who have been committed to

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Speaker 1: masking to acknowledge, hey, yeah, that really didn't matter. Or

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Speaker 1: are they so committed to masking that many of these

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Speaker 1: people are going to wear masks for the rest of

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Speaker 1: their lives when they are out in I mean, I

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Speaker 1: genuinely think some of these people have become so committed

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Speaker 1: to the idea it's such a part of their personality.

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Speaker 1: So I think the thing that it reminds me of is,

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Speaker 1: you know when there's sometimes after there's a mass shooting

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Speaker 1: or some incident with a gun that gets a lot

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Speaker 1: of attention in the press, and you will see people

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Speaker 1: and they'll make videos of themselves. They'll be like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to fight gun violence by taking this AR

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Speaker 1: fifteen and sawing it in half or something, you know,

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Speaker 1: as if that does anything. But but their theory is

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Speaker 1: if it saves just once. The first of all, it's

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Speaker 1: your guns that just don't shoot anybody that you know,

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Speaker 1: But second of all, the if it saves one life

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Speaker 1: delusion that people create for themselves, like, theoretically, this could

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Speaker 1: do some good, so I'm going to do. I think

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Speaker 1: that's where what masking has turned into for people that

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Speaker 1: they're willing to go through. It's a virtue symbol and

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00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: obviously a symbol of democrat allegiance, but if you're willing

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Speaker 1: to go through the discomfort and the inconvenience of it

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Speaker 1: on the theory that if you mask up for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: maybe you'll prevent one COVID infection and one life will

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Speaker 1: be saved. And that's the way they justify it themselves,

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Speaker 1: which is which is just crazy. And when you're thinking

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Speaker 1: you could do that with anything, can you imagine what

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Speaker 1: our reaction would be when I saw the Colbar audience

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Speaker 1: all wearing you know, when he spun the camera to

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Speaker 1: the audience and saw them and I saw them all

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Speaker 1: wearing masks. Still my jaw dropped, and I had this

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Speaker 1: sort of this can't be real thought process, and then

852
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: I went and I looked and on the Coal Bear Show,

853
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, they give out free tickets. I used to

854
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: be a huge David Letterman. I lived across the street

855
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: from the show. You see them every day, literally every day,

856
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: in line going into the studio. So I went to

857
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: go see David Letterman, you know, twenty years ago, probably

858
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: more or whenever he was doing the show in the

859
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: same studio. I loved watching David Letterman. I think we've

860
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: had this argument before. You were not a Letterman guy,

861
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: But it was such a cool experience to get to

862
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: go watch that show film, to get to sit in

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00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: a studio audience. And I would imagine that a lot

864
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: of the people out there that are listening to us

865
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: right now have been to New York City, and maybe

866
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: as a part of New York City you were like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to go watch you know, a show that's

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00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: filmed live. That would be a cool thing to do,

869
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: right I cannot imagine if I were in line, and

870
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: I would think I was being pranked, and not that

871
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: I want to go to the Cold Air Show anyway,

872
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: But do these people really not recognize how ridiculous it

873
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: is that they're putting masks on the same thing in

874
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: the view audience. Are they so conditioned to expecting that

875
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: that's normal, or in the back of their minds, are

876
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: they like, yeah, this is ridiculous that we're doing this.

877
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: You know. Uh. There also were there were social distancing

878
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: kind of helper people who out because I lived right

879
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: right across the street from the Colbert Show, and also

880
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: there's Broadway theaters right there. I mean, that's that's been

881
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: that was my neighborhood for years. Um, you could see

882
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: that there were social distancing clay outdoors for people before

883
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: they would go inside, where they would all sit in

884
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: close quarters for two hours. And they did this and

885
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: it actually reminds me a little bit if you've ever

886
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: seen the movies. I mean, in the show Succession, which

887
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: is very well done fashion on television, dark for sure,

888
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: but very well done for what it is, and very

889
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: political in a certain way that annoys me. But it's

890
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: whatever I put that aside. I think it's but you

891
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: remember Boor on the Floor. Oh yeah, Boor on the

892
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: Floor was the patriarch of the family in the show

893
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: Succession with I think it's a bunch of his underlings.

894
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: He basically just makes them all crawl around. He gets

895
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: drunk and makes them all crawl around on the ground

896
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: and snort like piggies. Basically right like that, that's the

897
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: game that he makes them play, and it's completely insane,

898
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: and the showrunner I remembered an interview the showrunner was

899
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: describing how that was inspired by what Stalin used to

900
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: do to his underlings, because Stalin would get Stalin's fascinating

901
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, a true psychopath, but also incredibly powerful and

902
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: an amazing story, you know, terrifying story. At the same time,

903
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: Stalin would get his underlings really drunk and try to

904
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: get into their confidence and then get them to say

905
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: something they weren't supposed to say, and then sending the

906
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: firing squad like this was one of the games. He like,

907
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: It's like, it's cool, you could tell me. But he

908
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: said he was inspired by that sort of sadism from

909
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: Stalin that he would that's I mean, masking up and

910
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: making people stand and you know, a distances outside. It

911
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: was bore on the floor, folks. It was what can

912
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: I get away with making all you idiots do to

913
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: show you that I control you. Honestly, it was mass psychosis.

914
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: How about the fact that you had to go to

915
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: grocery store and had to go up and down the

916
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: aisle in only one direction. I mean, as if that

917
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: were somehow going to make you safer. And I just

918
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: remember people were so mad at me and you, not

919
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: obviously our audiences which grew, you know, enormously during this

920
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: period because we were two of the first and no

921
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: one denies us, we were two of the earliest people

922
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: in our respective spheres in media to be like this

923
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: is crazy. I mean, this is this is bonkers. But

924
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: what are people doing here? People got so angry for

925
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: others telling them what was so obvious. It was a

926
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: real lesson in human nature and human psychology and mass psychology.

927
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: And we haven't come to grips with it as a

928
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: country at all. There haven't been any reckonings or any consequences. Really,

929
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: it really has gone like we're just supposed to move

930
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: past this, and I refuse to because you have to

931
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,000
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932
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: hold again with something else if we don't confront this.

933
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,560
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934
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,160
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935
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