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Speaker 2: So you had to become a diaper.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, I essentially formed a human diaper, but I

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Speaker 3: And so I would be like, oh, is that a

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Speaker 3: So Skeletor was pointing out that you was there was

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Speaker 1: He's like, there's no bird there and you're not even

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Speaker 1: looking there. You're just burying your face into Yoko's Zuna. Hey, welcome, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: Hollywood Handbook and Insiders got kicking butt and dropping names

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Speaker 3: in the red car carline.

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Speaker 2: We have a nice guest today.

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Speaker 3: The Great Debates are show Biz and some of these

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Speaker 3: guys have been on the show before the debatesters. We

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Speaker 2: They came back and.

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Speaker 1: I have something to say about this. When we met

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Speaker 1: pot they did have. They did have a show then,

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Speaker 1: but it was a it was a joke. You guys

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Speaker 1: would agree that it was. It was a sick joke.

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Speaker 1: It was well, you were almost making fun of the

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Speaker 4: Well we you know, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: got We heard about your numbers, and we got a

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Speaker 4: kind of taste of how a professional operation works. Which

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Speaker 4: rates and I'm sorry and go on, are you saying,

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Speaker 4: and are you looking for more numbers? Are you looking

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Speaker 2: Anything?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right? Right? Why would you stop?

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Speaker 5: Look, there was one number. Yeah, thirty thousand made an impression. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And that kind of stopped us in our tracks. And

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe this isn't a joke the podcast that we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dan Medeena is here as well.

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Speaker 1: Dan, good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Well, for me, the treasure is found and me surviving

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Speaker 3: Right, And it's been implied as well that we might

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Speaker 4: And you know I've crunched the numbers. Everyone's got to

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Speaker 4: Because if you use anything more complicated, you're you're kidding yourself.

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Speaker 4: Just take the raw data. That's what I always tell people.

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Speaker 1: Should we talk about our nightly rituals? Yes, I mean

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Speaker 3: not it's a different search every night. It's not like

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Speaker 4: That's almost sounds almost like that's his ritual. It sounds yeah,

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Speaker 1: Two hundred thousand dollars later, he has a functioning throat,

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Speaker 3: We have no cinnamon the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then it's hard to do something else once

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Speaker 5: cinnamon kids. We'll get a million of them. It was

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Speaker 3: But if I went back and told all those kids that,

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Speaker 1: This, right. Is it an opportunity?

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Speaker 3: Now I've carved out a real space just for myself.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you could jump back and forth in time,

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Speaker 1: WHOA, That's something I think about often where I'm like,

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Speaker 5: Right? Hey?

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Speaker 4: If I had to be if I were one of

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: How about I drive myself crazy with those kind of

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Speaker 1: How about this one? If I killed Oma? You know

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh huh. You said you're not sure if AMA's

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm saying if I'm going back

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Speaker 1: How that she did?

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Speaker 5: I do think if you killed her now you probably

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Speaker 5: you did you kill her?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't actually asked that. Uh, but everyone's night debate?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's a good debate did I kill Oma?

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Speaker 3: But we do need to hear some more night rituals

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Speaker 3: first before we get into the debates.

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Speaker 1: But we would like to give people some of the flavor.

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Speaker 5: The flavor is the rituals.

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Speaker 1: The flavor is the debates, and we hope it stays

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Speaker 3: We do have to account for all the night ritual Okay,

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Speaker 3: let me just blast through my night rituals.

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Speaker 5: Big glass of milk, sonic care. Stretch for thirty minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm in bed, I'm done. It's nice. Thirty thirty minutes.

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Speaker 5: You have to stretch thirty minutes minimum.

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Speaker 2: What do we focus on? Stretch after a big milk.

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Speaker 5: After your milk. You gotta stretch the milk out. Let

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Speaker 5: it get into all your bones.

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Speaker 1: A big milk, a huge milk.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit a cow milk. How many ounces of

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Speaker 5: milk is that? Twenty ounces?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I do? You just pound it?

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Speaker 5: I pound it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It stays fresh. One gulf, yeah, one gulf of

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Speaker 1: monster milk. Yeah, go blast it, and then you just stretch.

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Speaker 5: Feel it get into the bones, into the joints, into

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Speaker 5: the gristle, and feel your body mature. It's nice.

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Speaker 1: I don't do animal products as much. I don't like

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Speaker 5: You're diet is plant based.

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Speaker 5: What don't you like about the term Vegan.

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Speaker 2: Reminds him of the character Vega from the street.

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Speaker 1: Scary character clause.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, okay, don't don't remind I mean I

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Speaker 5: How's that not against the rules, the claws or him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's wearing claws.

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Speaker 5: No rules in a street fight. Brother, You guys throwing fireballs?

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Speaker 1: Then? Why? Okay? But that's an ability that he developed

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Speaker 1: over time, the yoga flame.

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Speaker 5: And the yga fire fire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And also a monster is allowed to compete.

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Speaker 1: Well, Ball rocks a boxer. The monsters.

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Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 2: I would call that guy a monster.

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Speaker 5: Who's the hairy man because he's got like a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, just because he has you know,

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Speaker 5: I got the names wrong. It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: Holy shit. Okay, so about halfway down with the night right.

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Speaker 4: Now, Okay, I'll be mine dmtm TM. It's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 4: Basically, I do twenty minutes of meditation before dinner, I

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Speaker 4: eat dinner. I do an hour meditation. I crunch the

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Speaker 1: Would you be okay with Medina guessing your mantra?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Look, you know if you guess, it's uncomfortable. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm willing.

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Speaker 1: I want to get you're clear?

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Speaker 2: What oh what does he get? What does Medina get

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Speaker 2: out of this?

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Speaker 1: If he guess he's clear for takeoff, you should.

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Speaker 4: Get something clear, just cleared for takeoff, all your for

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Speaker 4: take Medina. While you think about it, I'll write. I'll

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Speaker 4: write it down on this card. I'm folding it over.

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Speaker 4: I'll slide it over to Hayes.

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Speaker 3: We have okay, you know I can, Yes, I can

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Speaker 3: confirm whether or not pays.

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Speaker 4: Don't look, okay, Please don't, please don't look, because I

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Speaker 4: only want to use this as verification if he actually

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Speaker 4: guessed it right, and if he didn't, obviously, i'll take

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Speaker 4: it back and you'll never look at it.

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Speaker 5: Thank god, I'll be mine.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, I have this.

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Speaker 5: Inside of me.

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Speaker 1: It's not a guest preparing this is not a.

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Speaker 2: Guest, right, but now it seems like he does have

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Speaker 1: Okay, and I mean he summoned the montra we should.

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Speaker 4: I mean just so the listeners, though. His eyes are

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Speaker 7: Now, this is inside of me. It is inside of me. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's about it's inside of you. Right his open that card?

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, was it say?

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Speaker 2: It says I have this inside of me.

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Speaker 5: Don't look at the don't look at that part.

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Speaker 4: Don't look that's something else, Okay, go Ahead's that supposed

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Speaker 5: It's not. Don't If you're going to look at that part,

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Speaker 5: don't show it to Sean.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a part like, part of it's typed,

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Speaker 3: It's like there's an opposite page that looks like it's

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Speaker 2: So it looks like you were reusing paper.

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Speaker 5: Yes, part of its type.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and you're writing down on a piece of

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Speaker 3: the script paper. Yes, it looks like a workaholic script

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Speaker 3: is where Sean's character Fritz. Yes, that's the acting teacher

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Speaker 5: That that has nothing to do with my mom.

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Speaker 1: Give me that there, you're drawing me.

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Speaker 5: That is not necessarily you eat.

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Speaker 1: I'm su vegas claws and I'm saying, ooh, I like

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Speaker 1: this I don't deserve to be on the show. Dave

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Speaker 1: King should have played Fritz. I would never say that

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Speaker 1: I brought that character to life, David.

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Speaker 4: And I liked. I liked the way you played Fritz.

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Speaker 4: I liked it. But but I had already been established

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Speaker 4: as canon.

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Speaker 2: Too fast in the ICP.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I look for everyone who doesn't know the

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Speaker 4: three or four people. I played Juggalo Davis in a

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Speaker 4: season one episode of.

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Speaker 6: Work Colics The hatchet Man. Yeah, sold hatchets.

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Speaker 5: It had been.

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Speaker 4: It just seemed like that's who the character should have been.

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Speaker 4: Why do they need to bring in a Fritz Davis

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Speaker 4: exists already? So yeah, great, now we're airing our grievances.

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Speaker 4: I guess here. I'm sorry you had to find out

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Speaker 4: about it this way through my mantra, which also happens

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Speaker 4: in I and Medina.

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Speaker 5: Guess it correctly. It is inside me.

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Speaker 1: Here's a little story about Davis writing for the show Love.

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Speaker 1: So I get an audition for the show. As you

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Speaker 1: can imagine, I'm excited. It's Judd Apatow, Leslie Arfin, Paul,

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Speaker 1: Rusty's some big names. I'm Stowe. I go in.

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Speaker 5: Dave King is involved, He's a producer and writer.

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Speaker 1: You'll appear, don't worry. I go in.

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Speaker 6: Ellie Waller, Yeah, Ellie Rushfield, Brian Forrester, believe me, a

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Speaker 6: lot of fans of mine, William Jacobs, I get in there.

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Speaker 1: I fucking drill it. I never been so right for

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Speaker 1: something in my life. Alison Jones Casting doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: to do with themselves. And by the way, there's a

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Speaker 3: And she's actually the one who secretly is responsible for

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Speaker 3: you see. She knows who's good to put in. So

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Speaker 3: I finish up, I clean up, I.

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Speaker 1: Leave, and I wait for.

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Speaker 2: So many people.

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Speaker 1: Don't clean up, please, It's it's so unprofessional. It's like

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Speaker 1: you did an audition. We know you made a mess.

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Speaker 1: Just clean the ship up. I go to play in

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Speaker 1: a big Hollywood poker game that night. Don't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about who plays in the game. You know, Dancy Riley, whatever,

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Speaker 3: Monster Stacks and you were doing your audition for a

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Speaker 3: lot of people at the game, and they agreed that they.

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Speaker 1: Want to have fun. The game is for fun, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not make money night. It's poker night. You play poker,

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Speaker 1: you have fun.

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Speaker 5: Sure, okay, you clean up. If you're doing your auditions.

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Speaker 1: Some people are very concerned about just how much money

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Speaker 1: are they up or down? Name Yeah, Bed's Dave King

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Speaker 1: is there. He's the one I don't like. And I

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Speaker 1: talked to him during pizza time and I go, I

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Speaker 1: came in for your show today, and he goes, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, that's so fucking great, and I go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: really funny role. I'd really love to do it. I

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Speaker 1: this you totally should be Yeah, I hope you do.

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Speaker 1: I go like, oh, well, that's awesome, and he really

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Speaker 1: heavily implies he's going to put in a word for me.

448
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: Sounds like it to me.

449
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: A producer on the show producer level. He's episodic, he's

450
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: not being paid by the week, and I am feeling

451
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: like this seals the deal, not that I needed it.

452
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: The character's name is Wyatt smash Cut too. I'm watching

453
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: the show Love in my home with my wife, who

454
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: I love, and I don't want her to see me

455
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: the way I'm about to be.

456
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: It's that you're watching in your wife's home.

457
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sorry, it's her home, but I am allowed

458
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: there for limited periods of time. So, as we're watching it,

459
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: the character Wyatt appears on the screen, the one I

460
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: auditioned for, the one I thought. They must have just

461
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: eliminated this character. There's no way someone else is playing him.

462
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: They must have decided he wasn't right for the world.

463
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: I know the show was in flux. There was probably

464
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: a lot of messing around at the beginning. Dave couldn't

465
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: decide what he wanted to do. So as I'm watching it,

466
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: who is playing Wyatt on the show? But Dave King,

467
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: my former friend, who had promised to put a word in,

468
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: was in fact a snake with a knife.

469
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Speaker 5: This is where you call in Lev. I think. I

470
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 5: think this is a love situation.

471
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Speaker 1: It is a conflict for Lev to represent both me

472
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: and my acting nemesis, Dave Cake.

473
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Speaker 4: Well maybe okay, so if this is about Lev, then

474
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: maybe this is the time one of us puts a

475
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 4: call in and says, sorry, you know, yeah, pick a side, Leve,

476
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: pick a fucking side.

477
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Speaker 1: Oh hit on the numbers game for him.

478
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we'll he'll crunch his own numbers, going to

479
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 5: crunch his own numbers? Be like, do I want to

480
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 5: be with Wyatt or the guy at home watching his

481
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 5: watch another guy play?

482
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: That's right, I wondered. Tough decision. It's a simple, tough call.

483
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: Do I want to be with the guy who got

484
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 4: the part the guy who thought he had the part?

485
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 5: I got an episodic guy who's also playing a part,

486
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: and I got a guy who's watching his wife watching home.

487
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm watching my wife watch the show.

488
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 5: How much?

489
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: How much commission do I get when a guy watches

490
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: it home with his crunch crunch? I did audition for

491
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 4: the part of Why It and did a better job

492
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: than you, and that is why I was cast in

493
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Speaker 4: the role.

494
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it wasn't just so that.

495
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 5: I just want to make that clear.

496
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: Wasn't a local highre. I wasn't in the building.

497
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Speaker 4: Sure, I live in Los Angeles. You're misusing the.

498
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Speaker 1: I think one thing that happened is some of the

499
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: people were afraid that if Why It was too funny

500
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: of a character, he would steal scenes from some of

501
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: the other main characters who are writing the show.

502
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: Go out of the decision.

503
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 5: It's funny.

504
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: I can disabuse you of that notion having been inside

505
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: the process. Actually, what happened was Judd thought I was

506
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 4: a funny person, and he suggested that I audition, and so,

507
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: even though I had no intention of doing that, my

508
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 4: boss asked me to, and so then I went and

509
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: did that and got the part because of how funny

510
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: I was.

511
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 1: Oh, right, Well, there's no way that he would manipulate

512
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: you in order to keep the rest of his casts

513
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: who are bigger stars happy and make you feel like

514
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: you're being funny when.

515
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, he was sort of a right. I agree, Yeah,

516
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 5: I agree.

517
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, some big Hollywood player like Judd, he wouldn't know

518
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: how to do that to someone.

519
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: Anyway.

520
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some debates. One debate is how come

521
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: bj Novak said that yours' favorite podcast when he'd been

522
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: on this podcast, did he forget or hit his head?

523
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 5: You want to debate that? Well, he said that on

524
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 5: Tim Ferris's.

525
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: Podcast, right, which is like interesting, so he was already

526
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: on another podcast.

527
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: Four hour work Week.

528
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Tim Ferriss has such good sex.

529
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: For four hours four hour week.

530
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: He just yeah, four hours for our sex week. He

531
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: just will often give me a health tip, maybe like

532
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: show me how to make a smoothie about and then

533
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: he'll just toss it in like as if I was

534
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: going like, okay, but does this guy really fucking lay

535
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: it down? And if I'm wondering, I don't have to

536
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: wonder anymore.

537
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 5: It comes at you're telling me. He lets you know.

538
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: He generously allows me to picture him fucking even when

539
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: he's talking about something totally unrelated.

540
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: Life is full of mysteries and wonders. It's nice to

541
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: have some certainties.

542
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: M hmm.

543
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 5: And one is that Tim Ferris can go to Bonetown

544
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 5: hard for a long time.

545
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: Death taxes and Tim Ferris laying it down. Let's put

546
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: it that way.

547
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: Guy lays lays it on.

548
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but do we want to do the BJ debate?

549
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? You guys debate? Yeah, Well, Steve mentioned what podcast

550
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: he said it on. Was that the debate?

551
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: The topic is.

552
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: BJ?

553
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 5: Did BJ hit his head? Was a pointed assault on Hollywood?

554
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: Pointed assault on Hollywood handbook? Okay, I'll take the pro

555
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: pointed assault on Hollywood handbook. I think, yeah, he's firing

556
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 5: a shot across your bow, no question, and you guys

557
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: honestly need to respond. He'll be disappointed if you don't.

558
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 5: That's my opening statement, BJ's a smart guy.

559
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: Is not going to make enemies in Hollywood. That that

560
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 4: cavalierly if you will. We also look, we have some

561
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: inside information. You and I both know that BJ is

562
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: not quite as coordinated as he lets on to be

563
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 4: in his characters like Ryan Howard on the Office He's injury.

564
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: You and I have seen him accidentally hit his elbow

565
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: in his hand. I think it's totally possible that on

566
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 4: his way out of Moza or wherever he was at,

567
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 4: he hits his head on a door frame, and for

568
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: no malicious reasons, he's gonna accidentally say that the Great

569
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: Debates's favorite podcast.

570
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Can I tag in? Yeah, Yeah, it's big. His head's big,

571
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: head's very big.

572
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got to send him a star head.

573
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: Can I tag in? Yeah, Hayes would know.

574
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 5: Nice, very well done. If bij hit his head on

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 5: the way out of Moza, that was part of a strategy.

576
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: This is a guy who's planning moves ahead of moves.

577
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: I think he's sending you guys a strong, clear message.

578
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 5: Turn it up. Handbook been around for a while. You're

579
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 5: at that thirty thousand, good, let's get it to forty thousands.

580
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: You know, this would all make sense if BJ himself

581
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: had his own podcast and he actually had skin in

582
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: the game. But what he gains nothing from our from

583
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: saying The Great Debates is his favorite podcast. You know,

584
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: this is a guy who's not gonna just say things altruistically.

585
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: As you said, he's a calculated man. He's thinking three

586
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: steps ahead. This had to have been a mistake on

587
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: his part. He obviously either I mean, I'm not saying

588
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: he hit his head because I think that Sean is

589
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: throwing that in a little too. I don't know conveniently

590
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: as the catch all solution.

591
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: Can I tag in? No, I'm not okay.

592
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: You've got a great coach who's got a lot of

593
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: great players. He's gonna set them against each other, pit

594
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 5: them against each other. And that's what BJ is. He's

595
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 5: a coach to the world of podcasting, from the Tim

596
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: Ferriss down to The Great Debates.

597
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: He's trying to get this, you know what, And if

598
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: he were such a good coach, then that move would

599
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: have worked, because, as you said, handbooks stuck at thirty

600
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: they're stuck at thirty K. So if if BJ is

601
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: this John Wood in't podcasts, then why hasn't the motivation worked?

602
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: Why haven't their numbers gone up? It all points back

603
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: to he hit his head his head and motes up.

604
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: We're here now right, We're at the h Book. I

605
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: don't know what their numbers are going to be next week,

606
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: but I'm.

607
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: Guessing, Yes, I got a pretty damn good guess that

608
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 5: if you look at that flat line on the chart,

609
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 5: that it's not going to suddenly peak from three schmos

610
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 5: from the Great Debate showing up and arguing about whether

611
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: or not I mean listen to what we're even arguing here.

612
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 5: I think he set this whole thing up for this

613
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 5: exact day, and he wants to see what you guys

614
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 5: are going to do to respond. We're here. I mean,

615
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: I think he's hoping to go on Tim Ferriss next

616
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 5: week and say, Tim, I'm back. I know you bone,

617
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: I'm back with Hollywood Handbook is my favorite podcast.

618
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Wow, I would suspect I would agree with you if

619
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Dough Boys is a podcast.

620
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: Boys is definitely the X factor.

621
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: That absolutely to his favorite podcast interview.

622
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is time for us to team up

623
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: against Doe Boys.

624
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: Well that is, and that's why we brought you.

625
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 5: Can we talk honestly about that? Yeah? Can we hit them?

626
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 5: What are their weak points?

627
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Well, seem pretty impenetrable.

628
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: One thing that I've noticed about dough Boys is that

629
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: they're running low on chain restaurants already. I mean, you

630
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: hit sixty episodes, eighty episodes, they're you know, Okay. So

631
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: the last one I heard was Bubba Gump with Pauloka.

632
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: It's a great episode. But is that the restaurant that

633
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: comes to mind when you think of chain restaurants?

634
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: I thought I have doing jolly Be Jolly Be.

635
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: I'd like to announce about the bottom of the barrel.

636
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: I'd like to announce on the podcast, on this podcast,

637
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Well no, but we would love to

638
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: also do anything on Dope Boys. I'll do anything they want.

639
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to ties Angel about being a guest. I'd

640
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: love to anytime. I'm a huge fan of his. I'd

641
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: like to get this out in front. Yeah, Mike, he's

642
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: very funny there, And I did an audition for that

643
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: character here in that one out right. So June twenty fourth,

644
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, over a year ago, this is

645
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: a message I wrote to Nick Wiger, not that you asked,

646
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: and not sure if this chain is big enough. But

647
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: if you do a dough Boys about Bjay's brew House,

648
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: Oh no, I do Fox with the Puzuki, he says,

649
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: that'd be rad. I love that place, and now I'm

650
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: really blowing him up. It's where my wife first met

651
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: my parents years ago. I mean he's getting intimate with me.

652
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 5: Sean, It's okay, man, hang in there.

653
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: Bud Mitch out of town for like a month, all right, Okay,

654
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: when he gets back, let's set it up. I say

655
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: this is all on June twenty fourth, twenty fifteen. Sounds good,

656
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: Well it's been more than a month. If they do

657
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Bjay's Brew House, the psychological warfare, I mean they're obviously

658
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: waiting to drop a Bjay's episode to just shatter me,

659
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: probably on my anniversary with my wife, whose house I

660
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: get to hang out in sometimes when I want to

661
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: watch TV. They're waiting.

662
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: They're not doing BJ at BJ. I mean I was just.

663
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: That's the fear. Yeah, but I actually don't think they will.

664
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I think they'll go with someone far smaller.

665
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: Interesting, just to say to really fuck with you. Because

666
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: if they bring BJ to BJ BJ porter a BJ

667
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: porter BJ Averrel.

668
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: Bj Averrel would be the right size guest for that,

669
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: So cause.

670
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's interesting, that's interesting. Yeah, well we'll see. I'm

671
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: sorry to hear about this, Sean. I mean, yeah, that's

672
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 5: a fucking bummer.

673
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 1: Dude, what are you guys going to be on?

674
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 5: Been texted with Mitch hoping they call my name, you know.

675
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Hoping to get called up. Yeah, man, Mitch is funny

676
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: in that role. He must've known this audition.

677
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 5: Oh he was great.

678
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I and again he I mean that only

679
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: sort of proves the your hypothesis wrong further, which is

680
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: the this absurd notion that jud was for some reason

681
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 4: casting people who weren't funny.

682
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: Oh is he a writer producer on the show, Mitch, Yeah, no,

683
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: just heavily involved. Oh he's an actor. He's a professional actor. Actor,

684
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: professional actor. Yeah.

685
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as.

686
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 5: I mean, I wear many hats, as you know, a bit.

687
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: You know, I did a lot on America Debate Against.

688
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: Call with Carson Daily, Uh, Workaholics, Parks of Recreation, Brooklyn

689
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: nine nine, traffic Light, traffic Light played a voice No

690
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: big deal? Played the voice of Phil on an episode

691
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 4: of traffic Light. Is that a big deal? I don't

692
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: know still get the residuals. So I guess I'm a

693
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 4: professional actor.

694
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 5: I don't know.

695
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Should we have a quick debate, uh huh uh?

696
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: I would love to just see a debate about Sam.

697
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: About engineer Sam. This is something that I have personally

698
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: been going back and forth on a little bit. I'll

699
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: take the pro which, okay, good pro Sam, and the

700
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: anti Sam.

701
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, gladly.

702
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 8: So the topic is engineer Sam Hayley taking.

703
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 5: He's on the case, it's Saturday, he's doing his job.

704
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 5: He's got his brewer's hat on, and he doesn't break.

705
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: That's the important thing. You know, most engineers, they'd be

706
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 5: sitting here listening to the handbook, laughing their ass off,

707
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: texting people photos, snapchatting it, periscoping it, trying to make

708
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 5: it something for them.

709
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: Can you believe this is my job?

710
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 5: I'm here, Oh my god, get to work with these dummies.

711
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 5: Can you believe it? These dorks are in again. That's

712
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 5: not Sam's way. He's a pro. He chills, he roots

713
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: for the Brewers, he hangs out.

714
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: He almost makes it seem as if he doesn't like

715
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: the show. I mean, that's how professional he is.

716
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: And that's where my argument's going. There's a difference between

717
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: chilling and showing the courtesy and respect and sort of

718
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: can help him contribute to the bontomie of the podcast,

719
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: if you will. I haven't seen this guy smile since

720
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: I sat down. Am I asking the guy to break

721
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: out laughing? No, of course not. But would it kill

722
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: him to show in some way that he's enjoying the process?

723
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: Uh?

724
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: No, In fact, I almost feel like that should be

725
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 4: part of his job descripture. I know he's working the

726
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: ones and two's over there, trying to make this sound

727
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: as good as possible the Brewers had. It's a little

728
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 4: trying too hard. He's using the retro one with the

729
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: old M and B logo. Why not use the current

730
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 4: one instead? Again, I'm just not getting his I feel

731
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: like he's against us and not with us.

732
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: Look, you've got two models here. You've got the Kevin

733
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 5: Ubanks models or laughing at everything, participating in the show,

734
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: and you've got the Jean Baptiste model letting Colbert be Colbert,

735
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 5: just doing your thing, being a professional. He's from the

736
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: second school engineers.

737
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Sing which one of those shows was more popular? I'm

738
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: trying to remember, Well, look which one of those shows

739
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: got more, got more number than you look?

740
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 5: Is that is that Jean Baptiste job? Or is that

741
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: Colbert's job?

742
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Wouldn't hurt? Wouldn't hurt for Jean Baptista?

743
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: Pitch in I'll tie again.

744
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: Flashback to forty five minutes ago, we're asked by production

745
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: coordinator Kevin to no longer record on Saturdays. Sam is

746
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 3: present for this request. I'm sort of effecting. Maybe Sam

747
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: will say, Hey, Kevin, don't take this away from me.

748
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: This is I love doing this on Saturdays with these guys.

749
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: Well what I do on Saturday, Kevin, If these guys

750
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: didn't come into record, I'd be left to my own

751
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: motorcycle devices.

752
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: Wait, you didn't tell me the guy rides a motorcycle.

753
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's all he does.

754
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: That's the game change.

755
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Literally, primary characteristic.

756
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: All recycling is dangerous. It's dangerous not only to himself

757
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: but to other motorists. It's I call it a selfish

758
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: form of transportation.

759
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: No question today is dangerous or no question he's gonna

760
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: die or have a serious injury, but fucking cool in

761
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 5: Riding a motorcycle is cool? Yeah? What's this school as

762
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 5: riding a bicycle? Times ten?

763
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: Can I tell you how much sense it makes suddenly

764
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: that Sam rides motorcycle, because what is a pod? Look

765
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: where there's six guys sitting around a table here trying

766
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: to get something done as a team. And I feel like, well,

767
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: there's I'm gonna correct myself. There's five guys in one

768
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: guy because it's us and then Sam over here, just

769
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: as when I'm out on the road, it's everybody in

770
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: their cars and then one motorcyclist weaving and bobbing through

771
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: the lanes, making everyone's pulling their hair out. Hey, what

772
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: the hell, buddy? You know I'm going to open a

773
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: car door and hit Sam on the way home, and

774
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: we're both gonna be involved in litigation.

775
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: It's a rush to engineer a podcast. Like you're feeling

776
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 5: a lot of adrenaline pumping. You can't just walk out

777
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 5: the door and getting a prius. You know, you need

778
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 5: to keep that going, you need to keep chasing that high.

779
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 4: There's there's and of course there of course, but there's

780
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: more responsible ways to come down to let the adrenaline

781
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: you love for to do TM.

782
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: I know you're from podcast to podcast telling everybody to

783
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: do TM, but look, some guys, that doesn't work. For

784
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 5: they need something a little more.

785
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: Well you know, okay, but there's ways to do it

786
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: without endangering the people around him. That's my closing statement.

787
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: What is Sam's TM mantra?

788
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: And I want to know what guys that doesn't work for?

789
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

790
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of guys? Oh and by the way,

791
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: when you said there's five guys in here working together,

792
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: we also have coach bj Novak on the sidelines. He

793
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: didn't even have to be in the room to help inspire.

794
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 5: He's up in the skybox. Hm.

795
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: He has that's he has that flag in front of

796
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: his house that says sixth Man because he's like the

797
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: way the twelfth Man flag is up in Seattle, which

798
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 4: I think is cool because he's like the sixth Man

799
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: of every podcast.

800
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamal Crawford, mm hmm hmm.

801
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 5: Medina, did you have a take what you think Dean's would.

802
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: He wanted to know what Sam's mantra?

803
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 5: I want to know what Sam's mantra is?

804
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Right? I also think that.

805
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: Sam, would you be mad if Medina tried to guess

806
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: your mantra?

807
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: Uh no, go ahead, Okay, it's inside of me.

808
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's that's not a guess the warm up.

809
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: That's the warm up.

810
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: It always confuses because because then it does stretch.

811
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: And Sam, could you scribble it down inside this greeting

812
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: card and hand it to hay so that he can

813
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: read what it is later.

814
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: There's money in here too.

815
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 8: I am going to go they.

816
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: And that is I.

817
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the guess or if Medina

818
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 3: is about to go.

819
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: Say guess when you've guessed.

820
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll try it.

821
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 8: Okay, he's about to try it now, I'm going to guess. Okay,

822
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 8: I am going to go there.

823
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: And that's the guess.

824
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: I didn't hear guests, No, I said it.

825
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna guess. Yeah, I'm fine. Yeah, it's

826
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: that's scary for me to see you take off like that.

827
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: That the first time you only got an inch inch

828
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: or two inches off the ground. This time you were

829
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: like four or five inches off the ground.

830
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: Sam should Hayes opened his greeting card.

831
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: The green card is from Oma mm hmm, and it

832
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: says there is a little money in it, but it

833
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: says that something about how you tried to put her

834
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: upside down in the tub.

835
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: You're okay, this is okay. That's her version of that story.

836
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: What I said was so okay, Well, I said, your

837
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: wigs disgusting. Take it off.

838
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: She she has been. I just want to it seems

839
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: like this is your weekly payment for giving her baths.

840
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I said, discuss upside down next time. It's

841
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: got it's got bugs in it or something. She didn't

842
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: want to take it off. I said, well, I'm cleaning it,

843
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: so either you take it off, you're going in with it.

844
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: And it wasn't a tub, it was a running washing machine.

845
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: I would say, Okay, it sounds I'm taking Oh it

846
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: sounds like he had a wig bug problem done with it.

847
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be very sudsy to make sure

848
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: you kill those bugs in their eggs.

849
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, what is that?

850
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: Wigbug? Is? Medina's both Sam's out, Sam's out, guys.

851
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 5: Goodbye, he bailed motorcycle getting out of here. He's going

852
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 5: to go there. Who's engineering? Now? Is this even being engineered?

853
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: The levers are moving, which makes me think that BJ

854
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: is somewhere remote.

855
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: After list app. Now he's got like remote engineer app.

856
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: To answer your question. I think upside down his wig first?

857
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 7: Oh?

858
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 5: Is that what that means?

859
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's right, Okay, that makes sense.

860
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: Then how much money was in there?

861
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: Four dollars? Mm hmm blood money? Because I don't know

862
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: what does that mean?

863
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: Well, it leads me to believe that you maybe killed her.

864
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 6: Now you can't kill her, right, Okay?

865
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn battle acts.

866
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: What do you want to read some of your book

867
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: for memories?

868
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Dude? Oh yeah, I'd love for you to lay down

869
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: some of that shit.

870
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's tough to know where to begin

871
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 5: the books, like three hundred pages.

872
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: This is the book or this is you talking about?

873
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: What page would you like to hear?

874
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I have yeah, yeah, yeah, or Dave,

875
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: you better read.

876
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: I know what page Dave wants to hear?

877
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 5: Man sixty nine, page sixty.

878
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Me and my boys call that the Happy.

879
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: Me Happy, No, Boddy, there I am down in Wahaca, Mexico,

880
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: the sun beating on my face. Yeah, I mean that's what.

881
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: Did more than a lot of there. I am at that.

882
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's not well. The reader is jumping in

883
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 5: and out. You got to remind them constantly. You have

884
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 5: to sort of guess where they're going to be when

885
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Speaker 5: they pick up the book and jump in once again.

886
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 5: The book's called The Wonder trail Kindle. It's kind of

887
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 5: a subtitle The True Stories from Los Angeles to the

888
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 5: End of the World Again. Kindle is a Amazon. There's

889
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: an audiobook.

890
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: Who's reading it? Me? What do you define as the

891
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: end of the world?

892
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: Mmm, like you know, Patagonia, the bottom of South.

893
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: America, like Patagonia, or people shooting cops, cops shooting people.

894
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, we don't take us a on this

895
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: podcast wise.

896
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got robots with bombs out there now and

897
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 5: they're blowing people away. Mm hmmmm hmmm. Does that make

898
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 5: you feel more at ease less ease?

899
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: The drones.

900
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about drones is they can't get down

901
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: into caves like raptors can. That's why what we really,

902
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: what the military should really be focused on is training

903
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: some of these raptors to militarize them. I'd say, if

904
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: we see them do one trick, like if they stay

905
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: based on a hand gesture, at that point we should

906
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: be abandoning drones and putting all of our resources into

907
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: putting the raptors you know, down there to fight our best.

908
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: I saw a ted talk that Vincentinofria did about this.

909
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: He said that sometimes the trainer will have to strong

910
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: a bond with the raptors and not want to use

911
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: them as weapons because they are animals.

912
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: Even though they were created at a lab.

913
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: And then sometimes you have to use the chaos created

914
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Speaker 3: by another dietisaur getting lose.

915
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Can I ask you questions, Sean, And this may

916
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 4: or may not be related to what we're talking about.

917
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: Sure, just.

918
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: Don't connect the dots yet. Did you audition for the

919
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: Jake Johnson part in Jurassic World?

920
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: You know, for an actor of my caliberger and every

921
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: audition they went on, every time they nailed it. Every

922
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: time they cleaned up and left a nice space for

923
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: the next actor. That's that's not really uh, that's not

924
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: a possibility.

925
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: And there is The clean up for that one was

926
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: difficult because there is a thing in that movie where

927
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 3: you accidentally knocked a big drink off the desk. Oh yeah,

928
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: another actor is supposed to come put a trash can

929
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: there for it to fall into.

930
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: But when the reader doesn't do that far because they're

931
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: not a professional that actor.

932
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 5: If I recall, the Jake Johnson part had a lot

933
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 5: of scenes with Lauren lapkis right right, So they probably

934
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: were building the cast up from there.

935
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: Have you heard her dough Boys?

936
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 5: No, where'd she go?

937
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

938
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think that the tension between you guys

939
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: maybe got in the way if you're getting that.

940
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: Role, the that we're in a big fight. Yeah, well,

941
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if she knows we're in a fight.

942
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: I just know that she was hut dough Boys.

943
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

944
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: I know that she has happened to do interviews where

945
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: she listed to the best episodes of her podcast that

946
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: she didn't mention the one that I was on, even though,

947
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: let's face it, that one was funny.

948
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 5: She has to know if you're on dough Boys and

949
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 5: you're not, you have to know. That's Weirdly, it.

950
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: Should have been something that could work, because you got

951
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: the fight you guys were in was about whether to

952
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: shut down the electric Feds right, Well, should have been

953
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: something that you could have used for that movie.

954
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: Well, for the fight part of the movie. It would

955
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: have worked. But I think they thought that dynamic was

956
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: going to be too visceral for the audience.

957
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: Too visceral to too helpful to It's funny. I've never

958
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 4: heard casting decisions made for those reasons. Oh, this is

959
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 4: something that could really help us on the screen because

960
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: there's a real life relationship that actually mirrors that of

961
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: the characters.

962
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 5: You gotta be kidding me, Sean, Sean.

963
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Well, why do you think they chose Jake Johnson?

964
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: Because he's funny, because he's good, because he cleans up

965
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: better than anyone.

966
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: You mean, cleans up after his edition. He's good friends

967
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: with director for a long time. Well, he's good friends

968
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: with director for a long time. You know, I don't

969
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: know the director.

970
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 5: Can I tell you something? Yeah, you know you've all

971
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: people should know?

972
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to you want to stop this dance

973
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: that it's all a merit based that the world of

974
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 4: auditioning is a meritocracy. That I out auditioned you fine,

975
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 4: You of all goddamn people should know. It's not how

976
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: well you do, it's who you fucking know in this business.

977
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: And it does you know, if you're gonna trace it

978
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: back to safety not? How did he get safety? Not

979
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: he's been friends with director for a long time before

980
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: safety Not.

981
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 5: It's hard to imagine anyone being friends before safety.

982
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: Not. That's what taught me friendship.

983
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 5: Basically, basically, it's funny. I have a story actually about

984
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 5: the JP auditions, A buddy of mine is Collins assistant Dubbs.

985
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: He told me, Jake goes into the audition now nails it.

986
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 5: Sure he cleans up. That's the thing. What he didn't

987
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: even bother cleaning up because.

988
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: He was I've heard about this. I've heard about this tactic.

989
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: I have heard about this tactic where you're so above

990
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: it you don't need the job. You're hot shit. It

991
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: makes him watch you even more. You're not willing to

992
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: clean up. Now, all of a sudden, like, why didn't

993
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: this guy feel like he had to clean up? He

994
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: must be so good and have so many opportunities that

995
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: we gotta get him. We got to get the guy

996
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: who didn't clean up. I don't agree with that. I

997
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: think that you should give it the respect it deserves.

998
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: It's a space for other actors. I pity whoever went

999
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: in after him and had to probably double clean.

1000
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: Up the big gulp the audition.

1001
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 5: It was Matthew lill.

1002
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: It was Matt Lillard. Yep.

1003
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 5: And I know because I saw matt and he was pissed.

1004
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: And rightly so. And I like Jake. He's funny. He's

1005
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: been on the podcast once three years ago. So this

1006
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: isn't about Jake and my You know, it's not a

1007
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: thing with me and him. I think we both what

1008
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: we do is good both of us. It's different, and

1009
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: I think there's room enough for both of us in

1010
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: the next dra Assic Park movie playing the same character. Ideally, yes,

1011
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: just at different times. Maybe I could be.

1012
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 5: Young Jake, right, I don't think so.

1013
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: Well, what makes you feel like that's not a possibility.

1014
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: Well, there's okay, So just to think it through. There's

1015
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 4: a few reasons. One is that you guys are roughly

1016
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: the same age. You don't look markedly younger.

1017
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: Than How would he be so much more successful to me?

1018
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's something you have to figure out your

1019
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: own time. But the other is that he's you know,

1020
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: I just need a little time. He's much more recognizable

1021
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 4: than you. So when people see the quote unquote older

1022
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 4: Jake Johnson character, which is and we're all laughing because

1023
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: it's absurd this notion to begin with, people are going

1024
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: to go, oh, Jake Johnson, I love him. Flashback to

1025
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 4: the younger Jake Johnson, who is this unfamiliar face. I

1026
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: don't get it.

1027
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Well, there's a world where it would be they go like,

1028
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: oh good, why.

1029
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: Oh you're you're suggesting that I played I play young Johnson,

1030
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 4: which I think is an interesting.

1031
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: I would buy into that. Please don't gross me out.

1032
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: That's disgusting, like a Choby or Jake Johnson.

1033
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a guy. Let it go a little little

1034
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 5: kind of like a Jews.

1035
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: What are we going to explain happen to him? In between?

1036
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: You know, converted and working. It's pretty common.

1037
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 5: Could tell the story of the movie very well.

1038
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: But just the final point here is that the reason

1039
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: obviously wouldn't work with you and Jake Laanson characters because

1040
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 4: then you'd have and this was proven by the auditions auditions,

1041
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: that it would be like, you know, one actor of

1042
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: an inferior bility and an actor of superior ability playing

1043
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: the same person.

1044
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 5: It wouldn't make sense.

1045
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: It could be that he learned how to be a

1046
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: good actor in the mean time.

1047
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: Oh so that's a very cool, But the character isn't

1048
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 4: an actor. If you follow the character, there's.

1049
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: Aren't we all actors? And don't we all wear masks

1050
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: in our lives?

1051
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 4: No, that's wrong. Most people aren't actors. You and Jake

1052
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: are both actors. But what I'm saying is that the

1053
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 4: character in the movie isn't an actor, so there's no

1054
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: way it wouldn't make Wise in a movie.

1055
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: Then yeah, how do you get in the movie?

1056
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 5: Right?

1057
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm begetting to understand why Jake got the part

1058
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 4: instead of you, I think for me or I'm getting

1059
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: additional reasons now yeah.

1060
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Friends with the director. Bye. This has been an Earwolf

1061
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Speaker 1: production executive produced by Scott Ackerman, Adam Sachs, and Chris Bannett.

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Speaker 1: For more information and content, VI is a earwolf dot

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