1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Before I get into the paradise chat, I just want 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to our hotel. We're staying 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: at the Porto Fino Hotel and Marina. At the Portofino 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Hotel and Marina and Redondo Beach, every moment comes with 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: a view from your elegant guest room. Gaze across the 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Pacific and watch the boats drift by at Beleen Kitchen, 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: dying steps from the marina, and savor coastal inspired Soacao 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: cuisine for a touch of adventure. Dockside Adventure Center offers kayaks, paddleboards, 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: and complimentary bikes for a scenic coastal ride. Then return 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: to the hotel's living room, where the Portofino poor self 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: served tapwall invites you to unwine and soak in a 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: breath taking coastal sunset. Discover your seaside escape at the 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Porto Fino Hotel and Marina. Now let's get back to 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: our interview. 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: with iHeartRadio. 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Everybody's been here with the Almost Fi podcast. We have 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: one of the very successful couples from pair, Jess and 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Spencer with us today. You just got off the reunion show. 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: I was not worried about Green Show for you too, 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: Were you worried about it for other people? 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: Oh? 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 4: Definitely. 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 5: I honestly expected a little bit more chaos than we got. 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 5: I got anxiety hives a few times, so hopefully you 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 5: can't see that when they when they release the video footage. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: I was proud of everyone for keeping it way more 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: tame than I thought. 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: There were moments, there were moments I think it could 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: have really spiraled. Here's one of my favorite parts of 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: the season that never got talked about, and it happened 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: with you, Spencer, and it includes drama. 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: Me and drama. 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the I think whatever they're calling the judges, what 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: did they call the judges that came. 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: The Parliament of Paradise. 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: They come out and Sean and Alicia start doing their talk, 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: and they flashed to the current contestants and it shows 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: Spencer kind of in the back of the TV and 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: you're standing there looking like you want to shrivel up 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: into a ball and disappear because it's so awkward. 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: I mean, as soon as we got to the point 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: of airing out people's personal details that weren't part of 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: the season. Yeah, I was cringing from the inside out. 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: I was like, oh God, this is so many, Like 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 3: can I just go hang out with my friends? Because 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: when they all showed up, I was actually. 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 5: So we were so excited, and then it was like, well, 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: now we're plummeting going down, and I was like. 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: Can we just excess stage righte? And can we can 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: we go hang out somewhere else? We're not gonna show 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: us anyway, So it's like the. 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: And I do I want to be in all sincerity, 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: congratulations to the two of you. I mean thank I 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: just got off recording with Wells and we were talking 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: about you two as a couple. And I think one 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: of the the markers for a successful season of Paradise 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: or Bachelor or Bachelorette should be and always has been 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the couples that come out of it. And I think 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: this season, and if that is our marker of success, 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: has been one of the most successful seasons we've ever 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: had because the two of you, uh just seemed to work. 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: And I will say this Paradise tried to make it 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: look like you two. 66 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 4: Weren't gonna work. 67 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: I know it was a little bit really hard hard, 68 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: and I think I think when you walked up the stairs. 69 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: I think so many of us felt emotional because the 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: two we could see it that your connection was real. 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was. Honestly, there was no question for me 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 5: on whether I was choosing love or money. I just like, 73 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: I've never felt the way that I feel about him 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: with anyone, and like, I just think that that's a 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: once in a lifetime thing for most people, and there's 76 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: no way that I could I could choose money over 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: what what we found. 78 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: It was never a question then, never a question. 79 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: Jesse and I started laughing when he offered me the money. Yeah, 80 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: it wasn't a question for me. 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: The behind the scene spencer, for you standing there in 82 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: that moment, I'm, you know, just being on the show previously, 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I know they're really good at makings you get inside 84 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: your own head. And I don't think it's manipulative. I 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: think it's sometimes really fun if you look back on it. 86 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you were standing there waiting for her to 87 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: go up the stairs for a while. 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: I was there for a while. Yeah, I was like, 89 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: have they got the shot they need already? Because I 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: mean I was so confident that she was going to 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: be coming up those steps that if she hadn't. I 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: had way bigger issues than her not showing up, because 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: my judgment of everything and anything is so out out 94 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: of line and I need to like reassess my life 95 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: as a whole. So I was beyond confident that she 96 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: would show up. They kept me up there for a while, though. 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: Did you ever start to doubt it? No. I thought 98 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: they were like trying to get another shot. Maybe they 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: need a different angle, Maybe they need me to look 100 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: down at the money. Like I was like, I'll work 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: with you all, let me know, let me know what 102 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: you need. I'm nervous here. I'm proposing soon. 103 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: So oh my goodness. 104 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean that moment of a proposal, knowing the situation 105 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: that was in front of you. We had seen as 106 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: viewers the morning where you had mentioned, hey, today's day, 107 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: we might get engaged or we could be become engaged, 108 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: and we had seen teasers that you were in your 109 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: own head about it. Yeah, and then that was solidified. 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: As you laid in bed and went. 111 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so let me speak on that. I am 112 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: the worst morning person in the entire world. I don't 113 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: speak until I've been up for at least like an 114 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: hour and a half, Like he's he learned that very nonverbal. 115 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: I'm nonverbal. 116 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 5: Honestly, we we thought we started dying laughing when we 117 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: saw that part of the episode because we're like that 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: just that checks so much, because I'm just like, I'm 119 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 5: a different person from the hours of like seven am 120 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 5: until around like ten am. 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a ten am. 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm like my normal I'm like good. 123 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: And so it was honestly, like obviously because we knew 124 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 5: the conversations we had had the night before. He got 125 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 5: to speak with my both my parents, I got to 126 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 5: call my parents. We were in a really good place. 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: We were confident about the decision that we were making 128 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: the next day. 129 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: And we discussed the engagement at that point. 130 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, watching that clip, we were it was so funny 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 5: to us. We were like, oh my god, that's just 132 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: that's so funny that they used me half asleep, like 133 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: my non morning person self. 134 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 4: But she loved it. They're like, this is perfect. Don't 135 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: give her coffee. We have no coffee this morning. 136 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 5: Seriously, I was the last person going to walk out 137 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: in the main area every. 138 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: Morning, sitting there with her breakfast travels. I already got 139 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: done with a five mile runs. 140 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, show like three. 141 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 5: Times, and I'm just like finally getting up. 142 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll appreciate that in ridge one day, because you 143 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: get your morning time, you get your own time, You 144 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: get to do what you gotta do. You can you 145 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: can go run, you can do yours, you can read, write, 146 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she wakes up to 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: start half your day. 148 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: And looking like this takes time. So I'm understanding, you know, 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: I get it. Rome wasn't built in a day. 150 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: All these love triangles getting you twisted us too, But 151 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: it's because we have Wetzels Pretzels on decks, serving up soft, 152 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: salty and totally irresistible snacks from original butter to sinful cinnamon. 153 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: We've got your cravings covered, fresh baked, hand rolled, and 154 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: always hot. 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And others also 164 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: went like and had a really rough experience right alongside 165 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: of you, same house, same bar, samepool, same beach, really 166 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: rough experience for somebody like the two of you who 167 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: come out of this engagement and love and can look 168 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: back with a smile on your face. 169 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: What is it like also sitting alongside of. 170 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: People today going we lived in the same house and 171 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you're it was not the same for us. 172 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I have to say I'm just said thinking 173 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 5: he's such a good human in general. I just didn't 174 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: have to worry about his intentions on anything. So I'm 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 5: very thankful. And I mean I could have had I 176 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: very well could have had one of the experience that 177 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 5: some of the other people had, but I had this guy, 178 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: and he's just the best. And also I will say 179 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 5: I think that this go round, I really wanted people 180 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 5: to see the real me. I didn't want to get 181 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 5: involved in all the other stuff. But I will say 182 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 5: it was surprising to see, like all the conversations that 183 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: are going on while we were just focused on each other, 184 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 5: Like we just literally kept our focus on building our relationship. 185 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: And that's at the end of the day why we 186 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 5: didn't face those hurdles as much. 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think at the end of the day 188 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: we both had a mutual understanding that whatever we were 189 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: deciding to do was for what we viewed as the 190 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: betterment of us as a couple. And there's never been 191 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: anything just has been upset about that. I've been sitting 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: there wondering, Hey, this is so outline, Like where did 193 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: that come from. She's a very rational, reasonable person, and 194 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: of course, you know, emotions can grab a hold sometimes, 195 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, everything that she does, 196 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: I can, while I might not agree with everything, step 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: back and be like look at it and say, I 198 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: understand where that's coming from. And when you come from 199 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: that place, I think you can work on it together 200 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: to get to a place of mutual understanding. And I 201 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: think that, like, different relationships move at different paces, and 202 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: you run into obstacles at different times within the relationship, 203 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: and that's so unique to the people that are in 204 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: the relationship. And Paradise was honestly the reason I was 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: fighting so hard to be able to stay and the 206 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: reason that when Sean said her name, I was like, 207 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: oh dude, you're done. Like I don't care how strong 208 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: your relationship is. I don't care about anything, because every 209 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: single day we had in Paradise it was like a week. 210 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: It was like a week the real Yeah, like legitimately 211 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: of when else are we going to have this time 212 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: with no phones, no jobs, no like, no work calling us, 213 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: no family burden, no anything like. Our whole job was 214 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: to get to know each other. And I was fighting 215 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: tooth and nail for every single day that I could 216 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: be there with her to grow our relation relationship at 217 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: this expedited rate and just get to know more about 218 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: her in this awesome, unique scenario that we found ourselves in. 219 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Wells described you as like what a 220 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: golden retriever? 221 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, people have said that. 222 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a very like golden retriever meets clerk Kent. 223 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah that's a good And I also saw Wells with 224 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: royalties for that. 225 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also saw I'm just thinking about this now. 226 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: I think during the season I got a clip sent 227 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: to me of maybe is it your mom? That also 228 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: is like I can't believe this is my son, and 229 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: it's she's so proud of you, which is she's really 230 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: proud of you right now? So, how did I mean 231 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: your families? You haven't met her family yet, right. 232 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: So I have talked to both of her parents facetimed, Okay. 233 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 5: Because I have some family in California. So he's met 234 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: my aunt who I'm super close with, and my two 235 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: cousins that are like my little brothers and my gigi. 236 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 5: But my parents he has only met on FaceTime. 237 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: I haven't met mamma, have met mamma or mom and dad. 238 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: So you're getting ready to fly out from here to 239 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: go meet mamma and your mom and dad. 240 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: But you have met his Yeah, I've met all of 241 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: his He has three brothers and I met all of them. 242 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: I met his mom and dad, I've met his grandparents. 243 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: I met his best friends, and yeah, they're. 244 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: Has been like for like you And what's the feedback 245 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: that you've gotten on Jazz? 246 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: So so one thing about me and my brothers and 247 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: my friends, we're all kind of weird. 248 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 249 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: So when I was going into Paradise, I was like, man, 250 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: the reason I went into it thinking that, you know, 251 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: an engagement probably won't come of this is there's qualities 252 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: that I'm looking for in my future wife. And then 253 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: when you pile on top of that, you have to 254 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: be able to tolerate a little bit of the weird 255 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: and give a little bit of it back. And our 256 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: first competition, our first conversation. She told me about the 257 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: biscuit making competition she won in fifth grade, and when 258 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: she started diving, that's why I was like, Oh, she's perfect. 259 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: She's so weird, that's crazy. 260 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: That's a that's a beautiful, beautiful story. 261 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: So she's a winner. 262 00:13:51,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, with Pinkberry, it is love at first swirl big 263 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: thanks to Pinkberry, who has been serving up some delicious 264 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: frozen yogurt treats today where every flavor, whether it's original tart, pomegranate, 265 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: or their new white mocha is truly is a front 266 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: runner and the only drama is choosing between your favorite 267 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: premium toppings. Whether you're here for love or let's be real, 268 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: just the froyo. Pinkberry's got your happily ever after. Find 269 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: a location near you or order online at pinkberry dot com. 270 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you said during the reunion that 271 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: your family has fully adopted her in and that's such 272 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: a great thing. People you had mentioned it that obviously 273 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Paradise was fast and it is expedited. 274 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 4: In a day there does feel like a week and 275 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: it is. 276 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: But the cool part it is, I do believe you 277 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: can find love there because I think if you had 278 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: asked me a week and to meet my wife, would 279 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: you marry her? 280 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: I'd say yeah tomorrow, Like you just know when you 281 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: know you know? 282 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you know you know? And do you feel 283 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: today more confident than ever that you know. 284 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely one percent? It's like you said, it's that when 285 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: you know you know feeling And I don't know if 286 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: it's love at first sight. I know so much goes 287 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: into love, so it might not be that. But from 288 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: our first conversation, she just felt like home. Yeah, and 289 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: she was like so welcoming. And it's like this familiar 290 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: familiarity with a person that like, I don't know where 291 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: it came from. I don't know why I feel like 292 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: I know you. I don't, but I do know that 293 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: you're the only person I want to talk to and 294 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: I want to sit here for hours just getting to 295 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: know everything about you. Unprompted, we were talking about all 296 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: of our trauma and have happened in our life that's 297 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: like made us the people that we are today. And 298 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: that was like five hours into a conversation where we 299 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: were just sitting there talking and I don't know, she 300 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: just makes me so comfortable and I love being around her. 301 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: She's my absolute best friend. I don't care if we're 302 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: sitting in bed rotting watching Vampire Diary. Yeah yeah, or 303 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: if we're going to the nicest dinner, if we're in 304 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: Costa Rica on the beach, like, I don't care what 305 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: it is, but I want her there with me. And 306 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, when you know, you know, and. 307 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. 308 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: It's a really incredible thing. And for anybody out there, 309 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: any listeners, any fans that say, can the Bachelor really work? 310 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Can Bachelor in Paradise really work? I think you two 311 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: again are an incredible example of that. 312 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: Now. 313 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: I do wanna as we close up here, bring up 314 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: something that was not discussed really on the show, but 315 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: was written into us. Actually there's a rumor out there. 316 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it was discussing the show and I just missed it, 317 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: but there's a rumor out there that you slid into 318 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: his DMS before this show started. 319 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: Is that true? 320 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: I did. 321 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: I think the first message that I sent him was 322 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 5: about his dog. I was like, hey, I was like, oh, 323 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: she's such a pretty girl. Will you give her a 324 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 5: boop for me? Like a boop on the nose, cute boop, Yeah, 325 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 5: cute boop. And he's like, oh, yeah, I'll do that 326 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: for her right now. And I go, oh, and tell 327 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 5: her that she's beautiful, and I think he said something like, oh, 328 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 5: she'll love that coming from you, and I was like, 329 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 5: and that was like, that was literally it. I think 330 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 5: like maybe he I remember I made muffins one time 331 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: and he set up and was like those look delicious. 332 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 3: Just stupid? Wait you remember that? Funny? Yeah? Well, and 333 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: it's I know for me. So I had only met 334 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: two people from two women from the Bachelor universe in person, 335 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: and that was at our tell all. And so of 336 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: course you like follow people, you'll dem with people, like 337 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: react to a story whatever. We all have this weird 338 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: mutual shared experience. But I wanted to make sure that 339 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: I went into Paradise without too many preconceived notions about anyone. 340 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: I know, Thank God, I know that in my edit 341 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: or how I was portrayed on the show, I look 342 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: super boring, and I'm like, I know for a fact, 343 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: like I was the loudest person there. I was yapp 344 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: and all the time like everything. And you know, I 345 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: had talked to people that work at ABIES who are 346 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: close friends now and they're like, you, honestly just have 347 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: to go there. Give everyone a fair go at it. 348 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: So I was just living my life in Dallas, and 349 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: as soon as anything the prospect of being able to 350 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: go to Paradise came up, I was like, okay, we'll 351 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 3: just like go in blank slate. Yeah. 352 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: It's funny to see the comments though, Like I've seen 353 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: a few of people being like, oh, they definitely talked before. 354 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: They definitely need each other. 355 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: They have each other's numbers. I had to get our 356 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: number after we're in the hotel room. After I'm like, 357 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 3: so I kind of need your numbers. 358 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 4: At least we knew him the government name. 359 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that's just a good tidbit. 360 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: But you didn't know, like when she walked in then 361 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: and you saw her there, were you like, Okay, I 362 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: kept my mind open for five minutes and now I 363 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: see her. 364 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: So it was like her energy and what she brought 365 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: walking into a room only so much can be conveyed 366 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: over social media and stories and photos or whatever. 367 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 4: It was. 368 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: The she was like a magnet for me. She walked out, 369 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 3: I was like, I need to go talk to her. 370 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 5: See, I already wanted to talk to him because I 371 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: thought he was cute. 372 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 4: I think he's cute, and I. 373 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: Mean she's she's beautiful, and obviously that's like you need 374 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: that sort of attraction and relationship. But for me, it's 375 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: so much beyond that. Yeah, and it was just me 376 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: and her person. I was like, man, I wish I 377 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: would have known you were this cool. We could have 378 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: just like we could come on. 379 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got some more money out of it. 380 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: They got a lot bit moneyla. 381 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: Final question for you. You know there were conversations that 382 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: were happening about you two moving in together, who would 383 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: be moving where and when and how? And also kind 384 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: of family if you're going to be starting a family. 385 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: I think Spencer was very excited about starting a family. 386 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: I have a seven month old daughter. I will tell 387 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: you it is amazing. I would recommend it to anybody 388 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: on Sleep right now doing great. 389 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: It is. 390 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: It is nothing but a blessing. So catch us up now. 391 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Shows done airing we know you're engaged. 392 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: What's next? 393 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 5: So we went back and forth the entire time since 394 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: filming wrapped, and we talked about San Diego, we talked 395 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: about Dallas, we talked about maybe a new city, and 396 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 5: I think for our future right now, Dallas just makes 397 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 5: the most sense. I'm really excited, you know, I haven't 398 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 5: been able to do much there because we have to 399 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 5: stay inside, but I'm really excited to see the city more. 400 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: And it's a lot cheaper than California. 401 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: So so. 402 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 5: We did the sign on Dallas, and I'm going to 403 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: be moving to Dallas at the first of the year 404 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 5: when his lease is up. 405 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then with everything else, we're taking a step 406 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: we haven't been on date yet, Like, let's let's go 407 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: on a date. Let's be able to move in together, 408 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: get our footing, and then kind of take things from me. 409 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Is that your honest opinion, Spencer? Are you still kind 410 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: of like, hey, let's get this thing. 411 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to be able to I 412 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: think that the thing I will excel most at in 413 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 3: life as being a father, and I can't wait for that. 414 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: But I also know that I want her to be 415 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: that person, and I want her to be comfortable and 416 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: be on board. So just like with the move as well, 417 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, let's like, let's weigh all of 418 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: our options. 419 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been so patient with just like because I 420 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 5: think everyone saw me doubting quite a bit, you know. 421 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: That was kind of like the devil on my shoulder, Like, hey, girl, 422 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 5: you did this once before, it didn't work out. See 423 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: where that got ya. But just like trusting my gut 424 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: and knowing that I have such an amazing partner and like, 425 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 5: this is exciting and this is a good thing, and 426 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 5: just let it be what it is and stop worrying 427 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: about your past failures or past things that have happened. 428 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 5: And yeah, so we're we're with all that being said, 429 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: we are excited for the future. We don't want to 430 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: put timelines on anything. I think that we both get 431 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 5: really excited though, and you can see that with him. 432 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 5: He's very vocal about it, and I am as well too. 433 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 5: I don't want anyone out there to think like I'm like, whoa, buddy, 434 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 5: calm down, because I get really excited too. It's just 435 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 5: realistically well, it's also like she's twenty six. 436 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saying kids in the next two years, 437 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: which would make her twenty eight, and she says she 438 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: wanted kids before thirty. So the delta there, it's not insane, 439 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: it's not crazy. 440 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: You're in the same. 441 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same. Like I can give her take 442 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: a couple of years, honey, exactly. 443 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: It's not to give unsolicited advice. But here's my advice. 444 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: Let it be good. It is good, it seems good. 445 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: Just let it be good. And if it wasn't good, 446 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: somebody would tell you, and they haven't yet, and I 447 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: won't tell you. 448 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: This has been the Almost Famous podcast. 449 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: We have an incredible couple from Paradise that we will 450 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: all celebrate and we are celebrating. Congratulations again on the 451 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: engagement and also the one hundred and some thousand dollars 452 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: that you walk away away. That's pretty exciting. Justin Spencer, 453 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. 454 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on 455 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.