1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Good morning, Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Sean. 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Imagine the guy piece to the plane. It is Friday, Yes, 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: it's Friday, good morning. The weekend is here, o man, 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: beautiful Friday. Man. You know all week long we've had 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: guests toes. You know, we've had Nini Leach Monday and Tuesdays, right, 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Ebony K. Williams Wednesday and Thursday. And today it's just us, 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: just us, It's just us. We got a bunch of 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: guest rood Man's in the morning. No, no, that's not 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: drove Man's in the morning. If you want sausage with 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: your breakfast, we got the sausage for you here right now, 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: because we got other sausages joining us. This smart he 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: sausage in pork yo, he's stupid. I am pork Noo. 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I got do hugely. He'll be joining us this small 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: more sausage. Let's go DLO. Listen, somebody's listening right now, 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Like I told you, they're on the DL. No, man, 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: d L Hugly is gonna be here, that's right. Also, 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Jason Wilson will be joining us. Man Ason Wilson man. 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, let's be clear, I love Deal hugely, 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: and I love Jason Wilson THO the two black men 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: that I truly loved, value and appreciate. Jason william is 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: the author of two books, Battle Cry and Cry Like 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: a Man. Um. He's got a great film on ESPN 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: right now, executive produced by Lawrence Fitshburn called The Cave 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: of Almadullah. I feel like I'm pronouncing it wrong. I 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: probably am, but the Cave of Almadullah Almadullah sound. But 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: he'll he'll he'll get the pronunciation right when he comes here. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: And you weren't here a lot of time, Jason, I 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: was here last time. Now, his clips of that interview 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: that we did with him before go super viral all 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: the time Kevin Games and Kevin Gave was talking about Yep, 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: you read the book Cry like a Man? Remember, Yeah, Man, 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: So John, I've seen his clips. When I've seen him, 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: I guests he uh, I guess at his class he 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: was teaching the kid about breaking the board and the 38 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: kid couldn't break the balls, and he has gotten him 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: through it. And I remember that going viral. So yeah, 40 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: he'll be here with us this morning. Man, So a 41 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: lot of sausage this morning, baby, it's a saulted part. Yes. 42 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: And also a director, Mole McRae, will be joining us. 43 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: He actually directed the episode when I was in East 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: New York, so he's a director. So we'll be talking 45 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: to him as guy. More more sausage, more sausage, more sausage. 46 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: You get a sausage, You'll get a sausage. You'll get 47 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: a sausage. Oh my goodness. All right. And also we 48 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: got to shout out to Nila Simon. Nila, she's gonna 49 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: be joining us. She's a fish. I don't know. I 50 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what. Not identify ass, 51 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: So don't say me right, you know what? Let me 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: mighty fish. We don't know, maybe not knowledge, I don't know. Right. 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: She called us up the pretty little boy that she Yeah, 54 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: the pretty little boy, a pretty tome boy. Oh yeah, 55 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: the pretty tom We're gonna start a segment called past 56 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: the Orcs where we're gonna be passing her the auxiliary 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: cord that she's gonna be telling U, s putting us 58 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: on the new music that's coming out. It could be 59 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: artists that's out already or some new artists. She's gonna 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: be putting us onto some of the new music that's had. 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: No she's coming her young fresh DJ. You know you've 62 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: probably seen her on my late night talk show Hell 63 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: of a Week. You know you you hear on probably 64 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: one or five one in New York. You know she 65 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: got playlist out there. I can call the mixtape no more. 66 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: They played plays that she'll be up here telling us 67 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: what's on her playlist. Morning. All right, well, let's get 68 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: the show cracking. Get it off your chest. Eight hundred 69 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: five eight five one oh five one. Call us up 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: right now. You need to get it off your chest. 71 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: to get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eighty 73 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: five one oh five one. We want to hear from 74 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: you on the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this? Hello? What's 75 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: your nawal yo? Yo? Does your boy cap from months Ville, Alabama? 76 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Cap for months Bill without brother? What's up? Man? Y'all 77 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: feeling this morning? Good man? I had a good time. 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I had a good great time when I was out 79 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: there for my car ship. What up though? Yeah? Man? 80 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: I know Manley you know, take the rocket down down hill. 81 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, I just called it. You know, what's y'all? 82 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: A good thing? Man? I hope down last week? That's 83 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Charlemagne sent me I had in a book night I'm 84 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: gonna sending. I'm gonna sending you a black effect hat 85 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna put you on hold, Eddie, get 86 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: get his a email. Hold on the right. Bunch of 87 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: them appreciate that. Now, All right? Hello, who's this? Hope 88 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Bella Me, Hope Bellamy, what's up? Hope belling me? Get 89 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: you off your chests? Brother, what's up? I'm calling from 90 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: a Koe, Florida. Um. If you're familiar with kale Um, 91 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: the Korey Masker where they killed you know, all these 92 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: black people back in the day for voting. What a 93 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: good thing about is that? Is that? Um, I'm expelling. 94 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: I got my rights restorative vote, and I also turned 95 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: around and now I'm running for office here in the 96 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Koe right. I'm running for Korey Um. And it's like 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: hard to get our people out to vote. The Democrats 98 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: out numbers or because in the city, but we're not 99 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: getting out in voting. I am cross board against you know, 100 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm with everybody every side. I'm people in general, but 101 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: just getting the numbers out to vote. Here it's being like, 102 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: you know, a huge deficit, even getting funny and like 103 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm like grass roots and everything and I'm doing good. 104 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm definitely best candidate for it because I had both 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: sides of the table. My dead twelve years in prison. 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: Um now I'm gon this side, little fifteen years of 107 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: community work from local level to natural level. So my hitting, 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: my background, it messes with the population of Coe. Now 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: we're not the Coe of the old. We're puting forward, 110 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: but it's hard getting our people to understand how important 111 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: it is to get out and vote for me. Um 112 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: the month forward. Okay, well, how can people find out 113 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: more what you're You're running on your Instagram, social media, website, 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: whatever your campaign. But my website is right. My website 115 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: is Hope, h Ope. My last name is Vellamy d 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: E L l A n Y. If the word four 117 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: f o r the letter D one at dot com, 118 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: so it's Hope Vellamy four d one. Okay, brother, good luck. 119 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: The whole stand for the whole stand for helping other 120 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: people elevate. That's my drug, my high, my addiction. I 121 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: like that, all right, brother, campaign slogan. Hello, who's this yo? 122 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: What what's up happening? Get it off your chest? Brother? 123 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: My first time getting and I'm still talking about the book. 124 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: They said you're a book man, y'all. Just put them 125 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: on hold. Maybe listen to old well listen in our defense. 126 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: We were moving last year, that's right. So it was 127 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot going on, you know what I mean. So 128 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that to your animal. I'm gonna get 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: your black effect hat to brother. Hold on, get it 130 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh 131 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. 132 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This 133 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: is your time to get it off your chest. Eight 134 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: hundred five eight five one oh five one. We want 135 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? 136 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: This is man Jasmine. All right, get it off your chests, Hi, Jasmine. 137 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was trying to get out of the 138 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: vand with my kids. I drive kids, okay, but I 139 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: was just trying to get my chance that. I feel 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: like the world should make it a little bit easier 141 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: for people with fellings. Needs to get jobs. Yeah, I mean, yeah, 142 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: are you trying to get a job. It's difficult for 143 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: you or family member or not for me, but but 144 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: for our partner, it's just hard. He did some things 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: back in the day, long long time ago, and he's 146 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: still paying for it, and it's just like, yeah, it's 147 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: not okay. What kind of job you trying to get? 148 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: And tell him don't lie on his application neither. That 149 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: don't help. What kind of job you trying to get out? 150 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He doesn't lie, and at this point any time, 151 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, just a job that's gonna pay and help 152 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: him be able to provide for the family. What state 153 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: are you in, Jasmine, Columbus, Ohio, Ohio? Yeah, that's one 154 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: of those ones. You got a lobby your state legislator 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: dear to remove the check the box. That's that's something 156 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: a lot of state they're doing to try to help 157 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: eradicate that it shit shows bad because he's so driven 158 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: and he wants to do it, and then they just 159 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: shooting him down, shooting them down. They'll give him a 160 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: position and then take it away. I know. Another option, 161 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Jasmine is go around the system and maybe think about entrepreneurship, 162 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: think about starting your own think about putting yourself in 163 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: a position where you don't need somebody to sign off 164 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: and validate you for hiring. What did you get arrested for? 165 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking, Um, it was a 166 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: robbery situation when he was like eighteen, like thirteen years ago. 167 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: He did all his time. Everything is done. He's a 168 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: whole new person. But it's like they don't want to 169 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: give him a chance in the world today. I think 170 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: I love whatever he said. I didn't even know that 171 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: they were doing that. I don't know. People start remove 172 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: check removing the box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean 173 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: some state oppositions, like if he's trying to work at 174 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: certain things, don't they have to go through your background history? 175 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I was gonna say, it looks like if 176 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: you wanted to work for a bank, you know what 177 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it was robbery. I'm sure they would have 178 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: to go in the background. I'm sure if you want 179 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: to work for a bank, you got to even have 180 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: seven hundred credit score, they'd be tripping, you know, absolutely, Yeah, 181 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: because you'll become a fiduciary, you know, so they want 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're in good financial standing. So 183 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: that's hard. But yeah, certain states are removing that box 184 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: for that reason. So and what's the process of actually 185 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: wiping uh you record you're talking about? So that's an 186 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: expungement and can you exponge felony? I'm in the process 187 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: of doing that. Now I start Mike mill getting the exponge. 188 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, yeah, dom Carolina, what's happening? I have 189 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: an outstanding citizen. What's going on? I'm not but it's 190 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: not easy. No, it's not. It's not easy. It's possible, 191 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: it's not easy. And then when you do it, does 192 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: that mean it's totally expunged, like they can't see it regardless, 193 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: or can they steal nuckles? There's levels, so like, for instance, 194 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I have an expungement. Remember I told you about my 195 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: deferred prosecution situation, so not picked up them Stewart Whitesman 196 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: when I'm seventeen year in college, So that was expunge 197 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: and he was boosting y'alls a thug y'all. But when 198 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: it came time for me to take the bar exam, 199 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: there was visibility. Yeah, of course, it didn't stop me 200 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: from being a lawyer. There's lawyers, but DUI is all 201 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. But they're gonna permeate that quote expungement. Yeah, 202 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: all right, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five 203 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: A five, one h five one, don't move. It's a 204 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: breakfast lug. The Morning, the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club. 205 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody is 206 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: dj n V Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Indeed, 207 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: we got a special guest in the building, the brother 208 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: Mote mccraig, Morning Morning, Morning Club, y'all my brother. Now 209 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: you don't know who mo is, You probably know the face. 210 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: He was in NYPD Blue Boston Public, The District, Cold Case, 211 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: The Guardian, The Shield of Division, See Aside Er Detroit, 212 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: The Defenders, uh Sons of Anarchy, Battle Creek, Murder in 213 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: The First Empire, Pitch Tales, Rebel, The Flight Attended. He's 214 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: an actor with a long resume, playing a lot of 215 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: cop shows too, a lot of cops shows. I knew 216 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: you was gonna say something about that, was that, do 217 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: you want to be a cop grown up? Or no? 218 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: You know, Honestly, in the beginning of the cop shows, 219 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: when I started acting, I was pretty much on the 220 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: opportunity for young black actors on a cop show getting 221 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: interrogated as you do it or not. So it kind 222 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: of started off doing a lot of those and then 223 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: later end up getting the player a cop and be 224 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: a lawyer and all those things. But it's what opportunities 225 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: were in the beginning. You know what's so funny. I 226 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: saw when they were announcing the NAACP Image Awards. I 227 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: saw the head of the NAACP. He was on with 228 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: meffy Man. You don't see me at this one with 229 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Gail King, and he said something that people got a 230 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: little upset about, but I understood he was saying. He 231 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: was like, meffy Man got nominated for playing an attorney, 232 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: not a criminal. So do you feel like they cash 233 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: black people in those roles, especially black men, on purpose 234 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: and the criminal roles. Yeah, I think that's why you 235 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: didn't hear me with the tough questions fresh out of 236 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: the gate. I mean, honestly, I think a lot of 237 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: it was on purpose because it was telling stories that 238 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: are taking place in certain environments, and those are the 239 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: people that didn't have with those environments. And I also 240 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: feel like it was important like when Methodist playing those 241 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: type of roles, or we're just seeing us depicted and 242 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: other lights and other things I remember my grandmother. It 243 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: got to a point while I was doing all that stuff, 244 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: those type of roles, he said, baby, you're smart, You're 245 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: so intelligent, you're funny, y'all these things. Let's see some 246 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: of that too. Wow. And when she said that to me, 247 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: it really made me pump the brakes on it, and 248 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: it was something I stopped. Chadwick had picked up on 249 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: really early. He's spoken a lot about that where he 250 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: had to have a little bit more integrity in his 251 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: work and being understanding of what these depictions and what 252 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: this repretation representation actually is. So with those bills, you 253 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: got bills and those it seemed like those are far 254 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: and few. Yeah, the bills. It's a real thing. And 255 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: now I think that's a struggle of every artist. It's like, 256 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: how do you maintain that dream but still maintain a 257 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: roof over your head? And I think that's something all 258 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the grades had to navigate and figure out, whether it's music, 259 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: is playing ball, whatever it is you got that big 260 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: picture dream or what do you do in an intim 261 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: to keep yourself afloat? And so something I end up 262 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: doing a lot of people didn't know. It's like I 263 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: started working with somebody doing landscaping and just figuring out 264 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: other things you cut grass and acted. I did whatever 265 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: I had to do, and I also started to home 266 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: my craft because that was the biggest issue. When they 267 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: were saying, Oh, you can't play a lawyer. I'm like, well, 268 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: why can't I It's like your addiction. So I did 269 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: speech and diction training. I did all those things to 270 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: eliminate the no. So I want to show like the 271 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: flight Attendant with Kaylee Quoko, I'm a CIA agent on 272 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: that show. That's because I put that time into the 273 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: craft to be able to convincingly convey those other careers 274 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: and archetypes. Now, when did you know you wanted to 275 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: be an actor? Like? When was that? Man, I'm from California. 276 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: You can hit all in your voice. You hit the 277 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: CALLI Cally. You know. It's funny. Every time I thought about, 278 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: like when I wanted to become an actor, I feel 279 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: like it just keeps going further further further back in 280 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: my life. But the first time I really made that 281 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: decision and I got on stage in high school just 282 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: doing a play, had a drama teacher and just taking 283 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: the class, I want to be an actors ended up 284 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: in a class and he was like, you got something special. 285 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: You should get on stage. At the time, I like everybody, 286 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: I want to play ball, haven't want to do all 287 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: these other things. He's like, I give you an a a 288 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: in the class if you do one little play. And 289 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: I got on stage and that was it. It was 290 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: something about that connection with the audience and look at 291 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: people in an eye and being an express rest of 292 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: in that manner. I was like, that's what I want 293 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: to do for the rest of my life. And I 294 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: was sixteen years old when I found it. I just 295 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: had no idea how hard it was gonna be. I 296 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna work, but it was crazy difficult. 297 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Now do you see those programs a lot because you're 298 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: from South Central? Yeah? South Central? Do you see those 299 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: programs a lot in the hood in those areas? Because 300 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm just I just remember growing up in Queens. I 301 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: don't remember seeing those type of arts. And I don't 302 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: know if Charlemagne you see them in South Carolina. Of course, 303 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: we had the basketball and baseball and football. I don't 304 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: really see in that many had plays when I was 305 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: in elementary school, you know, stuff like rock soup, you 306 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: know what I like? Plays? Yeah, it's plays, but I 307 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: think those like specific programs. That's a good question if 308 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: when you think about like outside of the school, like 309 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: I didn't find any exposure to other arts when I 310 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: was coming up, Like my mom did a good job 311 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: of making sure my brother and I I says, so we 312 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: would go to the museum sometimes when it turns like programs, 313 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: and I think that we're really going to add intrinsic 314 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: value to us outside of like the norm that didn't 315 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: exist when I was coming out. That's all. I'm so 316 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: happy I've been looking into like what Lebron is doing 317 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: with his school. This is a really powerful thing because 318 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: he's trying to give these at risk and these challenged 319 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: youth opportunities to be exposed to more dynamic things that 320 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: can really lead to fundamental growth. Because I didn't have 321 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: that really when I was growing up. And you said 322 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: your grandmother encouraged you to, you know, do better roles, right, 323 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: and you're writing and directing a lot of nothing. Yes, 324 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: so that's one of the ones when you were writing this, 325 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: did you have Grandma in mind? I had everybody in mind, man, 326 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: when I wrote this Feast. It's a lot of nothing, 327 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: this film. It's a super autobiographical In a lot of ways, 328 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: I just poured from my life, like and researching and 329 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: thinking about all the greats and art. No matter what 330 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: the discipline is, the greatest thing you could do is 331 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: pour from what you know. So it's inspired by me, 332 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: my first love, my close friends, my brother, and all 333 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: the things that are happening in the world, like all 334 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: these injustices and these travesties. And so it was like, Okay, 335 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: how can I make a story with the things that 336 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: I know and that we all experiencing that could still 337 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: be funny and dangerous and thrilling. And that's what the 338 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: movie is. I was thinking about everybody when I wrote 339 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: the film. What made you get behind the camera? For 340 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: For people that don't know, I was in East New 341 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: York and you asked, let's go. People know you, they 342 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: might not recognize me. We got an olden jobs in 343 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: the true that's not true, that's not it. But you 344 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: actually directed that episode. And for people that don't know, 345 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't like at first. You know, they called and said, 346 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: if I want this, I would have to try out 347 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: for the part. And I had to. I had to 348 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: do it in front of you and the executives. Yes, 349 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: So what made you first want to get behind the camera? 350 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: And then I want you to tell people about how 351 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: good you were my audition. Yeah. Well, first of all, 352 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: shout out to my man Harry, Oh, Harold, who connected 353 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: us man like, which is an important thing in this 354 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: whole process to its relationships and cultivating good relationships out 355 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: of reciprocity value of looking out for people that look 356 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: out for you. But I wanted to get behind the 357 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: camera because I'm an artist. You know, I'm not just 358 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: an actor. I do photography, right, I want to learn 359 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: to draw one day. I tell stories. And so I 360 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: realized I just focused on my acting. I was kind 361 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: of putting myself in a box. Because not anybody else 362 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: is putting me in the box. I was putting myself 363 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: in the box. I was limiting the scope of what 364 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: I could do and how I could tell stories. So 365 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: and I was fascinated with it all. So I started 366 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: studying shadowing all the great directors I was able to 367 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: work with, going to YouTube University, spending tons of my 368 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: own money as an actor that I was making to 369 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: buy cameras and to make short films. Because I wanted 370 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: to tell stories. I wanted to give people the thing 371 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: that like Spike Lee, John Singleton, the Cohen Brothers, Steven Spielberg, 372 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: the thing that those directors gave to me, those experiences 373 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to give to other people. So I made 374 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: my first film. So I'm making all those shorts and 375 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: doing East New York right now. How did you get 376 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: East New York? Because I mean, and did anybody know 377 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: East New York was gonna be so big? Because I mean, 378 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: it's a show that people genuinely love, Man the show. 379 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: Don't think you ever really know how big something is 380 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 1: gonna be. I end up getting East New York because 381 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: oddly enough, this is how investing in yourself pays off 382 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: a lot of nothing. This feature film that I have 383 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: coming out, it started as a short film, and I 384 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: spent like forty g's on a short film at a 385 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: time when I didn't really have the bread. But I 386 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: was like, people like, why are you spending so much money? 387 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Because I need to show my vision because everybody always 388 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: sent a want to do stuff like mo, stick to 389 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: what you do, and I'm like, I want to direct. 390 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: They like, stick to what you do? So I showed 391 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: them the vision. They were like, oh, this is special. 392 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: So the executive producer East New York, Mike Robbin, he 393 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: saw my short film like five years ago or something 394 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: like that. He saw that short film and so he 395 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: had me direct the television show for him a couple 396 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: of years ago, and I'm crushed it show called All Rise. 397 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: And then when East New York came around, as soon 398 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: as it got green lit, he was like, mo, I 399 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: need you to come and do this show. And so 400 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: from him seeing my short film and then what I 401 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: did on this other show is what led him to 402 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: calling me and giving me the opportunity to not only direct, 403 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: but produce East New York. All right, we have more 404 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: with Mote mcray when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. 405 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club wanting everybody is DJ Envy 406 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still 407 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: kicking with Mo McRae's director of CBS's East New York. 408 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: He did I think a bunch an episode one of them. 409 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually in and he's in a hostess series now. 410 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: When they called for East New York, they said that 411 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: at first you were looking for somebody else to play 412 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the role DJ Authentic. Yes, and uh and then I 413 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: guess you decided to give me a shot. So what 414 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: was that process? I never I never knew. They just 415 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: told me to tell you why I wanted to give 416 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: you a shot. But the Dominican forty five, you know, 417 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: you know what it was like a big thing about 418 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: me and art is authenticity, right, And so you have 419 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: the show that's set in New York and it's tapping 420 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: into the culture, like the zeitgeist of people that I 421 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: want to see what's happening in New York right now 422 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: we're talking to my guy Harry. Oh, was just like, 423 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: who are those people that represent that could be a snitch, 424 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: So you know, who could bring that who could bring 425 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: that energy? Who's that person that people are gonna see 426 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: and be like that's dope. But also it has to 427 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: be somebody's gonna take it serious with you. While we 428 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: had to do the read and I'm gonna give you 429 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: some I'm gonna give talk about some real stuff right here, 430 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: where a lot of people get opportunities to do things, 431 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: but they bring too much ego to the party, their pretense, 432 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: they come with all that, so they're not willing to 433 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: respect this. So it's people you big in this world 434 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: over here. You get an invitation to come over here 435 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: and do something else, and you show up like, now 436 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this realm me? And what was 437 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: amazing about Envy you bros? You came in with so 438 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: much humility and reverence or what's happening in the film 439 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: and TV world, and was like, okay, whatever, the process 440 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: is a respected and you did the work, you had 441 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: your lines memorized, you got a point of view, you 442 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: got a perspective, and as soon as I saw that, 443 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you're my guy. Next year, next year 444 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: he got an those job now, you know. But but 445 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: that was the most difficult part was the humility, right, 446 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: because I've been doing this for a long time. I've 447 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: been djaming for a long time, snitch for a long time. 448 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: So when somebody tell when you do something, somebody tells 449 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: you that's not right, it makes you feel away because really, 450 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: absolutely I wouldn't feel that way. Made me feel because 451 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I know I'm not an actor, so I would want 452 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: that game. That's what I want me, That's what I 453 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: overdid it. I'm like, guide me, tell me which way 454 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: I should do it. How do you feel about this? 455 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that. That's why you know 456 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: with the episode, I'm like, you know, I was asking 457 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: and I'm reading your lines why you're saying your lines? 458 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: So I knew when to come in my lines and 459 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm asking, I say it like this, Am I supposed 460 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: to be smooth? And am I supposed to be scared? 461 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So you want to go 462 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: through it? And then I had to do it at 463 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: the audition in front of him, at the audition in 464 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: front of the executives, and it's like, you don't know 465 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: how it is. So I always appreciate that's part of 466 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: scratching yourself, right, Like you're talking about that ladder that 467 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: Denzel was talking about, Like some people get to a 468 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: certain you know, level on the ladder and they think 469 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: there's nowhere else to go, and it's like you ain't 470 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: looking up exactly. They get they get fat on that position, 471 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: so they can't go up. And when you get that 472 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: much weight on you high, what happens? Gravity kicks in 473 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: and you're gonna come down. I think you gotta constantly 474 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: be challenging yourself because oftentimes I was talking to somebody 475 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: about this recent like people talk about the culture. The 476 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: culture just do this for the culture. And I find 477 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: myself right now, I'm wondering, are we really challenging the culture? 478 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: Are we stretching the culture? Are we are we like 479 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: even something like the whole snitching thing, right, like, why 480 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: is snitching so bad? Why are we still treating snitching 481 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: like it's a bad thing. That's something the question I would. 482 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't because I'm not in the street. I could 483 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: care less. Who's an informant or nothing, you know what 484 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean. But I also look at it as there 485 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: is crime prevention. I think the colde is if you're 486 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: in the street and you're doing dirt, and you know 487 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: you're doing dirt with somebody and y'all did it together, 488 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: and then you snitched to save yourself for that person 489 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: goes down. I can understand that if you live that life, 490 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: But for people who are just want to keep the 491 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: community safe, that's a problem with that. Ye call the 492 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: police if you know, I would, Yeah, exactly do what 493 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: you need to do. And then also challenge the systems 494 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: that create such like lack and desperation where people have 495 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: gotten being crimes to eat, Like, let's look at that. 496 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: Don't talk too about stop snitching. Let's stop the systems 497 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: that create all this lack and it to me, real 498 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: nice to me is the person who told on that turner, Yes, 499 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: a realstness to me is the person the others, the 500 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: other enslaved person who told on Denwalk Bessie enslavery bole 501 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: he was trying to put together, like that's us, snitch, 502 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: those are the ones that we should un my death 503 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: because you set us back on the person I was 504 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: trying to lift us up. That's right, Why why would 505 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: you do that? That's right? But I also say I 506 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: don't have a problem being a snitch, Like if you 507 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: need me to come back and snitch on some more people, 508 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and we know that's why you got the role. 509 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Because you're doing more episodes 510 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: of East New York and of course you got a 511 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: lot of nothing, So explain how many more episodes y'all 512 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: start shooting yet? Or I just finished directing episode fourteen 513 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: so that I'm doing that right now on the show. 514 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: And I'm just talking about the film because I think 515 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: this movie a lot of nothing. It's like, it's not 516 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: like anything that's ever really been made, and what w 517 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: It's a satirical thriller, and this is a combination because 518 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: it's equal parts funny and serious. It's it's it's scary 519 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: and it's but it's dynamic, it's interesting. It's one of 520 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: those films you can't see it without talking about it 521 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: afterwards because the subject matter is real heavy. You got 522 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: a married couple who's watching the news one night and 523 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: sees un armed motors is killed by a police officer. 524 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: And at the end of that news segment they reveal 525 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: the identity at the officer and it's their next door neighbor. 526 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: So then they posed with that question because I always 527 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: thought about it, like we get also upset with something 528 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: to go wrong, first thing we do is go to 529 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: social media. What happens if the problem is right next door? 530 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: What would you do then? And then how do you 531 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: handle that problem on top of all the problems you 532 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: already got to get on relationship, right, And that's what 533 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: the film is. It's like all those things coming together 534 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: in a real crazy way. And you got nominated for 535 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: ACP Image Award. I did get Outstanding Breakthrough Creative because 536 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: that's direct things. That's different. Yeah, I mean I get 537 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: emotional just thinking about the journey, right, because this whole 538 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: thing about breakthrough that specific word, that category, because my 539 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: whole philosophy on life has been involved not being in 540 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: a box. Because I realized nobody could put me in 541 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: a box. I put myself in a box. And as 542 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: soon as I adopted adopted that mentality and started living 543 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: outside of that, these kind of things start to happen. 544 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: So it's just been affirmation. So it's humbling, you know 545 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's an honor to be acknowledged for 546 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: breakthrough creative emotion picture. It's something that was so challenging 547 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: to do, Like making the movie is hard, especially if 548 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: you care about the details. And so to get that acknowledgement, 549 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm thankful for the cast and everybody involved to make 550 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: that happen just been beautiful. I like what you said 551 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: just now because I think about that, right, Like I 552 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: think sometimes we listen to the world instead of listening 553 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: to the God, and so a lot of times we 554 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: do things because we that's what everybody is telling us 555 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: we should do. But what is God telling you to do? 556 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: You know me, everybody's gonna be like I understanding your box, 557 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: staying your lane, no, don't do anything up. But God 558 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: is like, no, go direct and that thing like, and 559 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: God speaks to me a lot through my wife. You 560 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: got a black wife? Yeah, just to make sure to 561 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: be He said, what do you say after that? Thanks 562 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: for seeing you, thank you. That's that's a whole crazy thing. Well, 563 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, my wife is black. She's beautiful, she's a 564 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: movie star. She's in my movie. Like Scott David shout 565 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: out to my wife. Yeah, yeah, I have to do that. 566 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: Just pay love. We got a little range. I'm sad 567 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, you don't worry. I got it. I 568 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: got it, really have it. Well, we appreciate you for 569 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: joining us. And where can they check out? A lot 570 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: of nothing? Are we in theaters? So we in New York, LA, 571 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: all the big cities. We're gonna be everywhere showing up. 572 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: But yes, and theater is gonna be on demand as well. 573 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: So if you don't want to go see it in 574 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: the theater, which I advise you to do because it's 575 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: a movie you want to see on a big screen. 576 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: Just a filmmaking. It's incredible. Terms like everybody that came together, 577 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: like I got geniuses that came and donated and gave 578 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: love to help make this movie. So theaters on demand 579 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: and East New York is on CBS nine thirty and 580 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: all that. Lets Sunday night, let us know, how about 581 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: get a theater for a lot of nothing. Let us 582 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: know what We'll get a theater screening? Ye yo, definitely 583 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: sure that means a lot. Maybe Sunday night, Sunday nights 584 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: opening weekend. At let's do it. I appreciate that done. 585 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, Well, let's moment gray Molok, 586 00:27:52,280 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: she did it. I'm acting before I get out of here. 587 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: Let me let y'all know what y'all are doing is 588 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: so important and meaningful man, and as a lot of 589 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: laughs and jokes, but what y'all create and what you 590 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: guys provide here is so important because so many people 591 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: would not be acknowledged and recognized if not for y'all 592 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: doing what you do in the way that you do it. 593 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: So it's an honor for me to be here. And 594 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: it's all up. I appreciate, thank you, thank you. Well 595 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: it's the breakfast club. Yes, it's mow. Let's go the 596 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: breakfast club. Your morning's will never be the same. 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I think they got like three 607 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: four inches of snow. They shut the city down. Let 608 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: me tell you something about three to four inches of 609 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: the doll of snow and the d Listen, listen, let 610 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: me tell you something. When three or four inches of 611 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: snow hit the d shut down. You know what I mean. 612 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: But it's like that in the South because the South 613 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: isn't equipped yews the soul. There's nothing that's really bad. 614 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: I know the reverse of that up here hurricanes. Because 615 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Hurricane Sandy it was like a little punk to us 616 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: in a little punk ass tropical storm correct shut the 617 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: city down of New York. So snow to the South 618 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: is what hurricanes are up No, I got you three 619 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: the four inches, man, It may not seem like much 620 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: to you, to anybody to you or let's let know 621 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: you up norths y'all used to get more inches, right, 622 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: at least seven, at least seven. I'm talking about envy. 623 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: That's why you are who you are. I tell them 624 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: how to make it in this business. D. L. Hugle 625 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: will be joining us next. Man, We're gonna don't move. 626 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: I hate this guy. Man, man, it's the Breakfast Cloud. 627 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club pointing. Everybody is dj n 628 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: V Charlemagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. We 629 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: got a special guest in the building. DL hugely welcome. 630 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: What's up? I like they'll furniture. Tell what somebody getting? 631 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, they get made the company, all the good 632 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: stuff come out. Well y'all, lad y'all, we have to 633 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: call y'all a brunch club. I was wondering about that 634 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: before you walked out to L time. Somebody. Man, I'm 635 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: not used to be in that discipline, having a reads 636 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: that practice and practice, So you have to get the 637 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: South African to do that before I'm gonna. Are you 638 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: writing your own stuff? YEA A lot of it, A 639 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: lot of it. I mean like this the stuff some 640 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: of the stuff that I you know, because I wanted 641 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: to do today show because there was so much happening 642 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: from a communal standpoint, from a cultural standpoint, and I 643 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: never felt like anybody who would actually seen some of 644 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: the things that were happening was kind of guide us 645 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: through the experience. And then of course the man that 646 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: I do the show that we have. Yeah, of course, 647 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: so tough week to start with that. It was, man, 648 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: it was, but it's so familiar. Yeah, it's so like 649 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: I've been I'll be fifty nine next month and I've 650 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: been watching Black People to dices. I was too in 651 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: the same way, and it's always the craziest thing. And 652 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: this is the first time I've ever seen somebody from 653 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: the Oval Office go to the funeral of somebody slain 654 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: by the police. I don't respect it. I'm gonna tell 655 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: you why I don't respect it. There's no way I 656 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: could be anybody from the White House, whether you vice 657 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: brosid to come Hires or our President Biden and sit 658 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: up in the people's face and no, I'm not doing 659 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: everything I can to make things like the George Floyd 660 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: policing yea pass, Like what do you tell the family 661 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: when the family says, what are y'all going to do? 662 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: You just said it? They make killing up forever, like 663 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing? What that means? In America? It 664 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: is a thing. America doesn't think there's anything wrong. It 665 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: just don't. They don't think there's anything wrong. Every time 666 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: something happened, the first thing people to do is rush 667 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: to tell me how not all policemen are like that. 668 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: That's the first thing. Invariably somebody gonna have that conversation. Oh, 669 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: not all policemen are like that. Ain't talking about You 670 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: were talking about the ones who is like this? But 671 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: no one ever says all black men aren't like that. Yeah, 672 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: that's true. So they have no problem paying us when 673 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: one prob rush. But they always want they get to 674 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: be individviduals. We have to be a group. So how 675 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: do you handle it? On the Daily Show? Right? You're 676 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: hosting a week it's it's so so much to talk about, 677 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: but do you be a lighthearted a little bit? Ain't 678 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: serious about like what are you doing that? I think 679 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: that human only works when it stays to it. I 680 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: don't think that that. I did find that I run 681 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: to the arrested him so fast, and I wonder why 682 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: that was what the white cop you got arrested. If 683 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: people aren't complaining about it, well, I probably you know, 684 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: But you know, all of this stuff is just happened 685 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: stance that I don't know. I can't prove a negative. 686 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: I can't prove that this would have happened opposite. I 687 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: know that all of them were black. I know that 688 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: they acted in a way that was that was not 689 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: consistent with the way I've seen them act. Ultimately, it 690 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: ain't gonna matter until these things happen and we see 691 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of policemen walking out in handcuffs when they 692 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: do stuff like that. But let me ask you a a question. 693 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about we want people in 694 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: the community that look like us, right, we want people 695 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: on the four that look like us. We want people 696 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: as lawyers and judges that look like us. These brothers 697 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: look like us, right. They had they were Omega sci 698 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: fi right from the community, like us. So like, well, 699 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm an Omegan. I'm gonna tell you this, those three 700 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: men were Omegas. But the men who are trying to 701 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: the man who's trying to get family justice then make 702 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: it too. So it's it's really reflective Clarence Thomas looked 703 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: like us. But I think that the predicate is you can, 704 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: we can have disagreements. But one of the things that 705 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: I find I take homage with is that you can 706 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: have a political difference, disagreement of philosophical But on the 707 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: other side, the predicate is they hate us. They gotta say. 708 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: They can't just disagreement. You gotta tell you how you're 709 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: wrong and how you're bad. Like Jason Willock some of 710 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: the stuff he says that self hate. How do you 711 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: how do you shape your mouth to say something was 712 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: a black woman like? They always find the way to 713 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: make us more insidious. And I think we can have disagreements, 714 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: but why why is the predicate hate? Then you got 715 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: to despise us in order for them to accept you. 716 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, That's why people say it's not about racing 717 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: this situation, it's about the system. No, it's about race. Yeah, 718 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: because this country does not value black bodies right, regardless, regardless, 719 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: and they've done such a good job of not valuing 720 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: black bodies that some of us don't value ourselves. That's 721 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 1: why those five cops can do that to a brother 722 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: like that, they would not do that to a white 723 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: man was until we see it. I've never seen it. 724 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. The thing about it that you 725 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: can you can we have so little respect. I'm not 726 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: in that group. I respect black people live, and I 727 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: hope that you know everybody in this room does. But 728 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: there are people when you Those men weren't purple and 729 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: gold for a mega. They weren't black for they before 730 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: they were anything. They were black. They were blue that day, 731 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: and they did what their cameras on and they didn't 732 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: try to get that man aid through. Those men were 733 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. And if that's the elite, who was not? 734 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: If that's the elite and they were young men, how 735 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: did you get to be on the force that that's 736 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: little time and get that kind of signment unless your 737 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: assignments to be brutals to black people. I don't feel 738 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: like they did it before because it's you know, it's 739 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: like even if I'm a beat, so I've I'm gonna 740 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: leave my camera on, yeah you know what I mean? 741 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: Like I just don't care or I never got in 742 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: trouble for it before. Why would you this with the 743 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: Scorpion Union. This is what we're supposed to do. We 744 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: reckon shop you can't even blame it in your right 745 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: yar man. It is about the system that has created 746 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: this thing. Like and every time I turn around, somebody's 747 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: telling us so hard the police got it, Like Barack 748 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: Obama went to the funeral of five Slang police officers. 749 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: It is politically dangerous to go to a funeral of 750 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: a dead black. I watched Kamala Harris, I was. I 751 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: watched it was. I think it was a George Floyd thing. 752 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 1: I watched her go to a gay propery and a 753 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: float went by, but she wouldn't go to Like I'm serious. 754 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: It was a dude with a rainbow throne on a 755 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: float going by, but going to a black funeral was 756 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: too Like that's yeah, that's right. So I think that 757 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: there is a way that we are seeing, even in death, 758 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: we look politically dangerous to people like, how is it dangerous? 759 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: If this is wrong? And we all say it's wrong, right, 760 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: then we all say, but I'm gonna send you flowers, 761 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll put you in the boot, and I'm giving a 762 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: State of the Union address, but I'm not gonna come 763 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: to the funeral and cry with you. All these things. 764 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: Is divine province of all these things, So I'm hoping 765 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: that this is indicative of what is to come. The 766 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: one thing that hurts my feelings is every time I 767 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: turn around when a young black man or young black 768 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: woman's killed, the mothers and parents and families rushed to 769 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: humanize them. They got to show them skateboarding. They gotta 770 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: and they always have known though he's not like you think, 771 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: he's not like the other ones. There's always this tattoos 772 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: on the face that they always have to rush to humanize. 773 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: But they have to because I feel like the police 774 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: department does pressed it the other way. You know, it 775 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: all got arrested when he was fined for doing this, 776 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Like that's that's what they do. Have you ever noticed, No, 777 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: this is just just statistically true for profession police officers 778 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: have a higher rate of drug abuse, domestic violence, alcohol abuse. 779 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: But I get tested when I do something wrong? Way 780 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: who shot? I know his drug? Like that's because we 781 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: don't want to know things. They get after there's an 782 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: instance many times, because you know they get thirty, they 783 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: get two weeks to three to four weeks off before 784 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: they have to answer questions. If I got if my 785 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: wife busting me with another brother, you gave me four 786 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: weeks to come up with something that I'd be all 787 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: right along a minute, so they set it up so 788 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: these things can continue to happen. When I see Tim 789 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Scott is in when we can't even say that it's 790 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: wrong and choking, get it death, what's the conversation about, 791 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: like the chokeo. We can't even ban the chokeo. Of course, 792 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: if you're fighting for your life, that all bets is up. 793 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: But as a matter of policy, we should We can't 794 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: say the choking people that put in your arm and 795 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: cutting off the air supply is is something we shouldn't do. 796 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you man that listen man, I think 797 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: one of the most interesting things that has ever happened 798 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: in this country is the fact that psychologically they have 799 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: convinced people that black folks are the problem. Black folks 800 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: are dangerous out of all the hayned stuff you don't 801 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: see white people do throughout the world. Historically they scared us. Yeah, 802 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: how and when it comes to the police, y'all got 803 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: the gun, y'all got the batons, y'all got the pepper spray, 804 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: y'all got everything. Why are y'all the free? But you're 805 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: supposed to teach my children. I'm supposed to be my 806 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: children how to treat you as appos and you're in 807 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: the pro But we live in a country right now 808 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: where you pretty much unanimously they voted for Juneteenth, but 809 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: they want they're against teaching slavery right, which is crazy 810 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: because Juneteenth. I don't want my children learn about slavery school, 811 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: which is stupid because school is out the first week 812 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: of June. Juneteenth is the nineth of June. If your 813 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: children learn about Slavery Day in summer school, and they 814 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: ain't gonna make it, no damn way if you if 815 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: you've got to go to school the summer, you are 816 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: dumb ass, dude woman. And Juneteenth is a federal holiday. 817 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: It means more white people up on Juneteenth. Thus I 818 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: think on juneteent white people have to work that day 819 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: for free all day. Where my kids I'm selling them 820 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: because that's a slavery day. We got more with DL hugely. 821 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: When we come back. It's the breakfast Club of Good 822 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: morning everybody in cej n V. Charlemagne the guy we 823 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: all the breakfast club. We got a special guest in 824 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: the building. Yes, indeed, the brother Dale hugely welcome. What's up. 825 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: I ran into you at the White House? Uh yeah, 826 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Joe Biden and the job 827 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: he's doing? Right? Listen, listen. I've never seen any anybody, 828 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: And I had this conversation with Charlotte man with a 829 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: with a limited number of seats in the House and 830 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: the senator at that time past such legislations. I've never 831 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: seen it happened. And you could talk about whether you 832 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: like him or don't like him, but Barack Obama had 833 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: a supermajority and couldn't get a lot of this stuff done. 834 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: So I think page to do it. That's what I'm saying. 835 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: I defy you at a time in history, and even 836 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: people on the rtle say this that somebody took that 837 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: menial amount of numbers and had such significant legislations. It's 838 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: never happened. So I think those years and years and 839 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: years of being a senator taught him that. But I 840 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: think the thing that people have to understand is that 841 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: we're in a fight to convince people that we are 842 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: human human. How is it that you don't want me 843 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: to learn like enslave people at one point couldn't learn 844 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: it was a legal for them. To learn. Now in 845 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: many places it's illegal to learn about enslave people. The 846 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: only reason you don't want history chat is because you 847 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: plan on repeating it. This is, this is, and so 848 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: this is our fight for us to exist. And I 849 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: think that people who are in the middle, you know, 850 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: politics is tools. A gun is a tool that depends 851 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: on who's hands it in what they're using it for. 852 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: And so I just think it's a very serious thing. 853 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: And I think that for me comedically, is it like 854 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: when I when I told you when white people were mad, 855 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: the little mermaid was like black, I'm like all them 856 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: slaves you threw over where? It's got to be somebody black. 857 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: When do you think that crab get his hair braided that? 858 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a Nigerian lady with a boothdown there 859 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: right black caster oil. Often wonder, you know, when it 860 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: comes to all of that stuff, do they do they 861 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: care about us learning about our history or do they 862 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: care more about their kids learning about what? You know? 863 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I think I think I can't tell, But 864 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: like when I see the things that happened, That's why 865 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that cowboys. I am because I am, 866 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: not because I always hated him anyway, but I did. 867 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: I did. But when we are going back in history 868 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: and men Cosby went to Jai and I think he 869 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: did it, and I'm not gonna even equivocate, but we 870 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: went back fifty sixty years in his history. But Jerry Jones, 871 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: we can't go back fifty sixty years in his history. 872 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: He's held liable for the things he did back then, 873 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: and so we have to have a consistent way of 874 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: doing things. If you know Ray Ray Rice, he physically 875 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: assaulted his wife, but Dana Dana White beat his wife 876 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: and he get a commercial called I mean, he get 877 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: a show called Slap Power Slap, So maybe that wasn't 878 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: even an asshoe. But maybe that was just a promo. 879 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, But you can't tell me that we 880 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: we looked through these things in the face and nobody 881 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: says anything. And I just wonder why we can see 882 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 1: things are obviously different for you, depending on them, where 883 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: you come from, what your experiences are, and we pretend 884 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: like we don't know who those things exist. And that's 885 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: why for me, I'll be feeling like it's a slippery slope, 886 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: right because it's like, damn, y'all go back and do 887 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: that to Jerry Jones. You know who's gonna get the 888 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: brand of that? Yeah? Us. Yeah, they start doing that, 889 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: they start going all the way back. They already do, 890 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: They already do when they can't. So when you get killed, 891 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: you killed. A couple of times when a black person 892 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: gets killed, they kill his memory, they kill everything he did, right, 893 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: they kill his family. They have to kill him. A coward, 894 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 1: they said, coward dies a thousand death. A black man 895 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: dies two thousand because everything about him that was decent, good, 896 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: or righteous they have to destroy. And we're complicity. And 897 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: when we say things like black on black crime, crime 898 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: is about proximity, the dangerous thing when it's a stranger, 899 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: Why is it that we keep the notion alive that 900 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: it is us that are particularly more insidious than anybody else. 901 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: When they say, well, you know, we like crabs in 902 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: the bucket. Crabs don't belong in the bucket. That's the problem. 903 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: You put them in an environment anything would do that. 904 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: The crime is not about color, or it's about poverty. 905 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: Show me a safe poor place. But everybody always acts 906 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: like we're particularly insidious. And when I hear people say it, 907 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: it's so galling to me. They give credence to these 908 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: these noses the board. The term black on black crime 909 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: comes from a Chicago Defender article and what nineteen seventy 910 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: where black Dude was talking about and they coined it, 911 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden we used it on ourselves. 912 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: I hate that one, and I hate we are on 913 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: worse enemy nobody, No, not. You might be number two, 914 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: but white supremacy number one. Absolutely, And everything is a 915 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 1: result of that. Everything is a result of that. It's 916 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: just it's not even hard for me. So for me 917 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: the Daily Show, I'm gonna talk to and I'm gonna 918 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: make some people nerving. Would you want to do that permanently? Though? 919 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: Only if I could do it my way? Okay, say 920 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: this way. I want to say what I believe. You 921 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: give up the road and everything. I would never give 922 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: up the road, you know, because that's the only place 923 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: I can't get fired from. Yeah, you ain't gonna mat 924 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: and I got to be home with my family all 925 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: the time. Oh No, does that make you nervous at all? 926 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: With the road now, with everybody being so sensitive and 927 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: with everybody's camera out. No, I think it's changing, man, 928 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: I think it's really going back. I think people are 929 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: over it. I think people are older. I know, yeah, 930 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's going 931 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: back the well. You know, here's the thing. You can't 932 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: really cancel anybody anyway. How many times it Tucker Carson 933 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: been canceled, or Sean hadn't even cancer, or Kanye been canceled, 934 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: you can't really cancel nobody people that we the people 935 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: that gonna for them. All you gotta do is make 936 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 1: a dope. Shoot how I don't know. People don't share 937 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: the house. To me, I'm not with you no more ever. 938 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: To me, it's a really simple thing. If you say 939 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: the thing that enabled them to hurt my people, I 940 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: will never put you again, ever on any level. And 941 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: I never y'all never spoke after y'a would that night, 942 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: the night when all this happen. We can't talk after 943 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: that because it evolved into a shouting match. Listen. I 944 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: think much like we're holding the policeman who did these 945 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: things responsible, even though they were black, we have to 946 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: hold people that harm us because they're black, holding minor spot. 947 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: Don't tell me it's a mental illness, because if it was, 948 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: Delonte West would be saying the same to Kanye West, 949 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: dude and that lived under the bridge. You know what 950 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you're all crazy, you gotta be to 951 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: make a car dash if the white dude, you know 952 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: what that is? He literally up the stereotype. Once you 953 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: go black, you never go back unless I mean unless 954 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 1: you go away. You could say the most harmful ever 955 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: that Hitler. All of you you humanize Hitler and you 956 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: forget you at black children and you're dating a woman 957 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 1: from the Coccus Mountains. But it isn't what he says 958 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: is what they he literally emboldens and now they're using 959 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: the words he's say to hurt people to look like me? 960 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: Are you will bother me to most about that situation? 961 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: You know whether regardless how you feel about Jewish people, 962 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: if you black man? What about the stuff he said 963 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: about rules of park, this stuff he said about Malcolm 964 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: Max What what like? Come on, bro, like what what 965 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: is what he said about George? And here's the thing 966 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 1: that that makes me man, when when those types say 967 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: things about George Floyd. If you're in the medium you're 968 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: making in terms of advertisement dollars before George Floyd, look 969 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: at it after you were getting No matter what the 970 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: platform you're on. I don't care because even if they 971 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: were gonna make up marking by they did hated more 972 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: of it to the African American market, all because of 973 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 1: the whole George Floyd thing. So people that shall over 974 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: him and eat off the corpses they bury or even 975 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: more in cities because they know it's no denying that 976 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: that black body was green. You got rich because of that. 977 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: If you give him money out the platforms, you gotta 978 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: make sure an x amount of his conservative platform to 979 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: if they're black. So stop telling me he made people 980 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: make way more money than they were making. Pretend gen 981 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: you get advertised you never got before. I know exactly 982 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: exactly they needed black alliances, so they needed to hide 983 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: more so from that black black body being slain like that. 984 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: You have you had a financial windfall and you were 985 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: stall over him. Thank you forever whatever. I mean that 986 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart. It's a real thing 987 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: for me. All I well, don't move. We got more 988 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: with DL Hughley when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. 989 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: Good morning morning. Everybody's DJ NV Charlemagne the guy we are. 990 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club was to kid with DL Hugh Glee Charlemagne. 991 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: What's harder doing the daily show that remember remember the 992 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: CNN show. People forget that you had a CNN show back. 993 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, I don't nothing. Nothing is hard for me 994 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: if you don't with me, and they have a great 995 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the staff over there, there a machine. 996 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: They know what they're doing. Yeah, you're just inserting yourself 997 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: into something else. And they could do that for anybody. 998 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: There a machine. To me, it only matters to me. 999 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: The only thing that matters to me is when events 1000 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: like this because I don't want to have fun. I 1001 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: want to do jokes. I do, But when the events 1002 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: like this happened, I want you want to do? Yeah 1003 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: I do. I want to. I want to have fun 1004 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: and hang out. I do. But great job. But they 1005 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: need to be somebody not my hes spirits aren't necessarily 1006 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: And I'm feel entitled to speak about these because I've 1007 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: seen it, I've been through it, and I just want 1008 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: whatever whoever they get. You gotta be able to be ambidextrous. 1009 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: I can bat right or left, we can be lighter, 1010 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: would be heavy. But when things like this happened. You know, 1011 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: there's sixty eight percent of Americans have their political views 1012 00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: shaped by satire, which is coming absolutely. Why would yeah? 1013 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: Why would I not? When when I'm almost like this, 1014 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: it's these moments aren't just bang glorious. Comedy is a reflection. 1015 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: We're showing people things when it's done right, when it's done. 1016 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: And I just want whoever doesn't And all these guys 1017 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: are very talented, but they speak about things from twenty 1018 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: thousand feet up. I want somebody who's who's been in 1019 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: the trenches and seeing what happened. Do you ever get tired? 1020 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: Because you know, if you follow DL, you post everything 1021 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: that's going on in the community, and a lot of it. 1022 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's depressing, and I'm like, damn, do you ever 1023 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: get tired? Do you have to take a mental break? Sometimes? No, 1024 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: because you know it's funny. My wife don't like to 1025 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: talk to me. My kids be like, guy, call people 1026 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: five o'clock. I guess what, Guess what happened when you 1027 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: and I and I and I commend you for even 1028 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: talking about having to take a mental break. But for me, 1029 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: it is irresponsible to know a thing, to believe a thing, 1030 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: and to not say a thing. That's what I'm saying, 1031 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: So to me, it's irresponsible, But I do feel like 1032 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: all the DMS you get, did you know this story? 1033 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: It's like I telling being Crump, I like this is 1034 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: like that kid on sixth cents. I see dead people 1035 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: all time, Like nobody ever tells me good. And you 1036 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: feel like you gotta speak for people or like even 1037 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: somebody like being Crump, Like being Crump gets a lot 1038 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: of flat. But I'm like, well who else is doing 1039 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: the work? Yeah? You know what I'm saying, ain't been 1040 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: It ain't been fault that he's the black Lloyd to 1041 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: go to for everybody. Why don't people stop? You know, 1042 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: it's funny mccari Sellers has stepped up a lot too, 1043 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: And I like and I think, I think, I think. 1044 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: What's funny to me is like I should be proud 1045 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: in theory that two black men were running for the 1046 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: sinning in Georgia, but when it's such a disparity, Like 1047 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: I have a simple rule. If I can beat you 1048 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: in the spelling, be you can't have my vote. Like 1049 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: to be a spokeperson, you gotta know how to spoke. 1050 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,399 Speaker 1: Like every time they dude say anything, I thought about 1051 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: the fat out but just this is just say hate 1052 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 1: for you. But guy, not only do I think Herschel 1053 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 1: Walkers should never have been even close to being a senator. 1054 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they should lead get home with the 1055 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 1: pilot like them. I ain't a lot of somebody dropping 1056 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: the battle. Herschel need to be somebody political pundit. Yeah, 1057 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: I need to see Herschel on TV right, we're talking 1058 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: during the even Why FO not put him on yet? 1059 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: Because because here's the thing. They would never hire him 1060 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: for their company or let him date that out but 1061 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: he was okay, never he would never be the spokesperson 1062 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: for their company or or a member of their family. 1063 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: But I don't even blame Herchel because from the moment 1064 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: he showed any level of aptitude, he was taken away 1065 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: from black people. He was giving deferential treat He was 1066 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: this dude could beat the white woman. You see that 1067 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: he could actually beat white woman. And he didn't even 1068 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: date in the white This dude could be white women 1069 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: and nobody and everybody know it and still will for him. 1070 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: Whatever he did transcended race. If I had that experience, 1071 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: of course I went to I think that it did exist. Well, 1072 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: I would say it transcends race untill he does it. 1073 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, Herchel went from the sticks to white women. 1074 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling him, who ain't never um. They didn't even 1075 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: get mad at everything you said about it. Literally, if 1076 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: we're Donald Trump is everything they hate about black people, 1077 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: but they love him everything. Like he lies, he don't 1078 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: pay his bills, he got kicked out of the the public 1079 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: houses and got evicted when leaves and stole from work 1080 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: his last day, but they love him. You know what 1081 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: do I do say? That's one thing I feel like 1082 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: we should learn from Republicans, Like they don't focus on individualism, no, 1083 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: because they know that collectively, if Trump president, he gonna 1084 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: do that. If hershe was the sence he gonna do. 1085 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: We focused too much on individualism, Like I think we 1086 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: should start focusing on the collective or make the country 1087 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: see the world the way we do. I cannot stand 1088 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: to that that I'm living in a world where I 1089 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: have a granddaughter and children and I am I am 1090 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 1: watching and I can't stand that I can't seem to 1091 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: make the world better for the people I love. That's 1092 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: that's that's what's frustrating to me, And that that you 1093 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: are nobody by by evolving by being who you are, 1094 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: but a part that I played in it. Like when 1095 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: I saw what they did to Megan the Stallion, Like, 1096 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: there's three things black people should just oj did it? 1097 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: Kanye haste and Tory shot make it? Yeah, those shouldn't 1098 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: be controverse. Well, yeah, because it's not just think it's 1099 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: like that hard. Most man who was shot in America 1100 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: shot by who somebody loved them or said they did 1101 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: or knock them off or did whatever. And most men 1102 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: who've been violent or be bothered again, right, that's like 1103 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: those are pretty consistent thing. But people contorted themselves to 1104 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 1: make some kind of conspiratorial thing when sometimes the most 1105 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: obvious thing is the truest. I agree with you whole heartily, 1106 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: and I you know me and if he had this 1107 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: conversation because you know, I saw we had the police 1108 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: documents off here way before they were public, and I'm like, 1109 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: oh he did, just like you know what I'm saying. So, 1110 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: But but I think the problem is the Internet. I 1111 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: really do. I think the Internet. Like when michaelm X 1112 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: said the media is the most powerful tool in the 1113 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: world because it can make the innocent guilty and guilt innocent. 1114 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: There's nothing doing that better than the Internet. The only 1115 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 1: thing that bothers me about when anybody says that anything happened, 1116 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: it's always three sides to the story, right. It's the 1117 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: right person on the right side of the person on 1118 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: left side, and then there's the truth right, and then 1119 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: there's the evidence. But don't read the information from the internet. 1120 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: But the internet is difficult sometimes because they put out 1121 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: so much that ain't true. That's my purpose purpose. It's 1122 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: three things that mad people in the whole tip got 1123 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: in calm. They hate evidence, proof, proof, the fact that 1124 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: you have well you don't know, okay, well see, and 1125 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: that's a At one point, I can't even have a 1126 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: conversation with you my last thing before you get to 1127 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 1: your last thing. I got a question. I see you 1128 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: in shape, baby, I'm not. It's not I did put 1129 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: bourbon now I picked up tequila baby, so passed the 1130 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: Why had challenge you to a fight? Is that why 1131 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: you're in shape? You know that you're going to jail. 1132 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: J You need to be warming up with some mother's fights. 1133 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: You got at that's so funny to me. This is 1134 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 1: what happened. He called my exact skipcheet of my exactive producer. 1135 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 1: They wanted to be on the show. I said, that's 1136 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 1: not a good idea because I think you are Charlotte 1137 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: or told as people, no, it's gonna be cool. And 1138 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: sure enough what happened. We had this argument. He got mad, 1139 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 1: I want to fight you? All right, Well, he said, 1140 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a celebrity box back, like who's at 1141 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: the celebrity like you you famous for getting robbed on TV? 1142 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: That's not a TV show, that's not a TV show. 1143 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: And now what is he indicted for? Something? Right? Yeah, 1144 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 1: I would say it's interesting to how black women are 1145 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: really in terms of the legal on the legal front 1146 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: they like in Atlanta and in Michigan, and with some 1147 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: black women in jail not playing man, young, thug and gun. 1148 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 1: If your name is you, are you gonna go to jail? 1149 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: I know that. Lord a mercy. This is what people 1150 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: don't get. If you rap about something that didn't happen, 1151 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 1: that's artistic expression. Can wrap about something that did that's 1152 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: a confession. That's a confession up. And stitches don't get sches, 1153 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: they get immunity for prosecution. Snitch is a home by Christmas. Yeah, well, DL, 1154 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us. You could check them on 1155 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: the that's right, And if you wanted, I hope you 1156 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: get it, you know what I'm saying. No, I want 1157 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: to do a top show, but I want to do 1158 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: it the way I do it. Yeah, you've done CNN, 1159 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 1: you did TV one. Yeah. Yeah, so with dealing it though, baby. Yeah, 1160 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: it's Del Hugley. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, any 1161 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: Charlemagne the guy? We are the Breakfast Club. It's Charlemagne 1162 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: and I've been talking and we set for Friday. We're 1163 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: gonna do a segment called pass the US. Listen, we're old, right, 1164 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: we both were born Okay, you're older than me, so 1165 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: what does that make you? But we both are born 1166 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: in the nineteen hundreds, right correctly. You remember last year 1167 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: I came in here with the ski mask on. I'm like, yeah, 1168 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: am I too old? You know to be listening to 1169 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 1: young music? You know what I mean? And I remember 1170 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: I still excuse me, I still like a lot of 1171 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: this stuff. Right, So you know, on Friday's new music 1172 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: comes out, and you know, we got a very young 1173 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: up I don't evenna say up and coming nine now. 1174 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 1: I's still up and coming, right, But she's here. She's 1175 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 1: here now, she's generation now, but she's still up and coming. 1176 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: Man and you know, she got a very good air 1177 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: for music, and I decided let's do a segment call 1178 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,720 Speaker 1: yeah called past the alswere you know, we bring people 1179 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: up like Nala. Now it's gonna be holding it down 1180 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: where she's gonna tell us what's popping out there, what's new? 1181 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 1: She's gonna be listening to some of the albums that 1182 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: we might not have time for, oh might not care about. 1183 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: And she's an actual DJ. Yess yes, yes, So so 1184 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: what do we got to tell here? Were passing you 1185 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: the os? What's popping? What are we listening to? First? 1186 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: All right, so first I wanted to give a shout 1187 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 1: out to Scissors SOS project, which has been number one forever, 1188 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 1: it seems like for seven weeks straight. Yes, so shout 1189 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 1: out to Sissa. And at first I wasn't really feeling 1190 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 1: the project. I'm glad you said that, and I didn't 1191 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: have to because I was about to get on your 1192 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 1: At first, I wasn't really feeling the project, but it 1193 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: grew on me. And I know the fan favorite is Snooze, 1194 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 1: but I really really like Love Language and I just 1195 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: wanted to shine someone on that record. All right, well, 1196 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,439 Speaker 1: let's get into it now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Okay, 1197 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: that was sis. I'm glad that you came around on Sissa. 1198 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 1: That was a snippet of Sissior. What else we got? Ship? 1199 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 1: People should be looking out. I was telling you sizzl 1200 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: was fire, all right? No, I think scissors fire. I 1201 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,919 Speaker 1: just like control better. I think I had the same 1202 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: Tell them why you said you didn't like the new album? 1203 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: Tell him you say who you felt the album was four? 1204 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember. That was so long ago. First reaction. 1205 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: First reactions don't really count what you got. Jesus um 1206 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: he's lying, by the way. So the second project I 1207 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: want to highlight. I wasn't gonna do Little Yaddi, but 1208 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: I think it's still grown on me, and I don't 1209 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,959 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a hater because I see 1210 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: how he attacked Pitchfork, So I'm gonna I'm gonna give 1211 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: it some time. So I'm gonna talk about Sweno's project, 1212 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: which actually dropped in November. It's called Love for Rent. 1213 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: But that project is amazing. I don't know, it's growing 1214 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: and Smeeno he's from Saint Louis. He went to college 1215 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and I think he got his buzz musically 1216 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: in Chicago. But now he's on tour with Ji D. 1217 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: They're on the Love for Rent tour and I'm a 1218 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: big fan of him. He's not mainstream, but he should be. 1219 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: He's great. So um, it's been three months and each 1220 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: week I feel like I find a new song on 1221 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: the project that I love. But right now on repeat 1222 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: is Lee and Lovely Lee and Lovely. Yeah that sound 1223 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: like a haircare product. That sounding what was keeping your 1224 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: ages held down? Right now? You know, shout out to 1225 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: um or ask please send me some products up. But yeah, 1226 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: let's get into it. Here's Smeno, Lee and Lovely off 1227 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: of Love for All. Right, well, now let's do here. 1228 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: This is past. This is something that we're gonna be 1229 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: doing Fridays. Uh usually in a nine o'clock hour, I guess. 1230 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: But this is Black History moth, so we have Black 1231 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: History moment, so we're doing it right now. During the 1232 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: room report, what is Seno? So now let's here with 1233 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 1: holding with passing the Austen So what's next? That was Smeno? Right, 1234 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: that was from St. Louis. He's from Saint Louis and 1235 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep itself. So I did like a new 1236 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: music submission and allow artists to just send me music 1237 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: from all over. I wouldn't do that. You're gonna get 1238 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of trash for good Man hours. I'm so 1239 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: far of trash. Hours of trash. Four hours in, I 1240 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: still haven't got through the list, but I thought I 1241 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: want to get into it. Here's Jehovah with Poppin. All right, 1242 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: that was past the als man from South Carolina from 1243 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: the Met eight oh three. I thank you from the Met. 1244 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: Give me an Instagram and all that stuff. Now, make 1245 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: sure you guys follow me on the Graham at N 1246 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: Y LA S Y M O N E E. And 1247 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: if you guys are in New York City February tenth, 1248 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm having a party Friday at mister Purple. It's a 1249 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 1: funk Are you gonna party? Shoutouts right now now, I 1250 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: am advantage mister Purple. It's an LS So pull up 1251 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: if you guys can. If you like funk and you 1252 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: like hip hop, like nineties Hip Poppins, and that's that's listening. 1253 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: If if you like her playlist, you can hit that live. 1254 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. When we come back, Charletagne's giving somebody 1255 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: donkey to day. So don't move. It's to Breakfast Club 1256 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: of the Morning. The Breakfast Club, your mornings will never 1257 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,959 Speaker 1: be the same. In the new Peacock original poker Face, 1258 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: Natasha Leone stars is Charlie Kale and Ordinary Joe with 1259 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: extraordinary ability to tell when someone is lying. Stream the 1260 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: ten part Mystery of the Week's series from Knives Outrider 1261 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: director Ryan Johnson, now with new episodes every Thursday only 1262 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: on Peak Cope. It's time for Donkey of the Day 1263 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: time a Democrat, So being Dunky of the Day is 1264 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a mixed club. So like a 1265 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Donkey o the daytor club bitches. Now I've been called 1266 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot of my twenty three years. That Donkey of 1267 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: the Day is a new wife. Donky of to Day 1268 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: for Friday in February third goes to Turning Point USA 1269 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 1: at Clemson University dropped when the clues bombs for the 1270 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Upstate of Southway six four on What's Happening for the record, 1271 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 1: I love my entire state of South Carolina, but I 1272 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: represent the low country eight four three all day and 1273 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: the eight oh three, the metro home of the South 1274 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Carolina game Cocks drop on the clues bombs for the 1275 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina games. I can't even let the words Clemson 1276 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 1: come out of my mouth without saluting the gardener in 1277 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: black of the South Carolina game. Conso, okay, that's my 1278 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: wife's almamada. By the way. Now, now that we got 1279 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: that out the way, let's handle business all right. It 1280 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: is indeed the third day of Black History Month, and 1281 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: I've been waiting. I've been waiting for the foolishness that 1282 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: surrounds any celebration of blackness to begin, especially when you 1283 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: have Ron de sciantists bullying the College Board into scripping 1284 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: down this ap curriculum for African American studies, and when 1285 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you have conservative ledged states in school districts banning so 1286 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: called critical ray theory. Yes, thirty percent of educators in 1287 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 1: red states have limited discussions of black history. So in 1288 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: a minute, they gonna get rid of this month all together. 1289 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Always coming, baby, Black History Month gonna be Black History 1290 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: Week by twenty twenty four and Black History Day by 1291 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: two thousan twenty five. I can see it now. It's 1292 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: already the shortest month of the year. And if someone 1293 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: like the scientists gets in that White House in twenty 1294 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: twenty four, you can kiss black History mouff Goldbay, Trust 1295 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: and belief. All Right, it's already the shortest month of 1296 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: the year. And the reason they put it right before 1297 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: March is because they know that's all black people are 1298 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: gonna do in regards to the injustice we're facing this country. 1299 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: That's what happens. We learn about what's happening with us 1300 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: and to us, and then we march the history of 1301 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: who we are in marching go hand in hand. Okay, 1302 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence marches the month after Black History. Now, 1303 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: stay woken, matter of fact, go get a nap. Okay, 1304 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: I'll be joining you shortly because I'm tired, all right. 1305 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm tired of us being the most unseerious country on 1306 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: the planet. All Right, We just out here, bro Okay, 1307 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: everybody just doing things. Okay, there's absolutely no thought going 1308 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,919 Speaker 1: into nothing. Everybody is doing Okay. It feels like they're 1309 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: just trying to get into the It feels like everybody's 1310 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: just trying to get into the Rock Control Hall of Fame. Okay, 1311 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: nothing feels real. Everything feels like one long terrible SNL sketch. 1312 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: And you know SNL be having some long terrible sketches. 1313 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: And today's no exception because Turning Point USA at Clemson 1314 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, actually on the first day 1315 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: of Black History Month, decided to have a big sale, 1316 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: not just any kind of big sale though. Let's go 1317 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: to WYF News Channel four for the report policely on 1318 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: for an affirmative action bake sale at Clemson University today 1319 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 1: left a number of students upset. Carol Nigel. Turning Point 1320 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: USA at Clemson says it held the event and opposition 1321 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: of affirmative action, and photo sent to WYF News for 1322 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 1: it shows a poster with prices for the cookies varying 1323 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: based on a person's race. The comments on the organization's 1324 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Instagram post called the poster racist, disturbing and bringing up 1325 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: that it was put up on the first day of 1326 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Black History Month. One student had this to say, I 1327 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: was shocked, like because I didn't think Clemson would allow 1328 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 1: something like happen on campus. The fact they had prices, 1329 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: the prices in it being the first day of Black 1330 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: History Month, Like, I feel like that was very much 1331 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 1: planned out, Like it was very strategic the way they 1332 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: did that. An affirmative action bakesale. I repeat, an affirmative 1333 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: action bake sale now I'm not the highest grade of 1334 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: weed in the dispensary. But last I checked, affirmative action 1335 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: was defined as a set of procedures designed to eliminate 1336 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,919 Speaker 1: unlawful discrimination among applicants, remedy the results of such prior discrimination, 1337 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: and prevent discrimination in the future. All of that is great, 1338 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: But what the hell that got to do with cookies? 1339 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Turning point USA at Clemson? Okay, these fools had a 1340 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: sign showing each cookie at a different price based on 1341 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: the customers race. All right, These fools had Asian cookies 1342 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: at a dollar fifty, White cookies for a dollar, Hispanic 1343 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: cookies for a Curtis Jackson Black cookies for twenty cents, 1344 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 1: and Native American cookies free. I'm just glad they didn't 1345 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 1: do thin cookies like this. Could have been way worse. 1346 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: They just had regular cookies like chocolate chip or mule 1347 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 1: raised and peanut butter. But they could have jumped out 1348 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: the window and had fortune cookies for Asians. Okay, large 1349 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: chunks of cooked meth commonly called meth cookies for the whites, 1350 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: and biscuits aka ed word cookies for black people. Welcome 1351 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: to Popeyes, chicken and Edward cookies not take your order. 1352 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, listen, man, here's the thing. Turning Point USA. 1353 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Clemson said they held this event in opposition to affirmative action. 1354 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,439 Speaker 1: It's a debate as old as time, folks. Okay, people 1355 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: who oppose affirmative action say that it is unfair to 1356 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: use race as a consideration and admitting students to a 1357 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: college of university. Opponents of affirmative action to say that 1358 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 1: this reverse discrimination, and that's wrong for the government ever 1359 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: to use race in regards to giving out benefits like 1360 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: government contracts, jobs, our admissions to school. I love when 1361 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: people use the term reverse discrimination because it's usually the 1362 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: people who use that term who try to gaslight you 1363 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: and tell you racial discrimination is a figment of our 1364 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 1: imaginations in the first place, and this is how they 1365 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: try to gaslight you. Okay, Clemson TPUSAH chapter said debate 1366 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: sale was in an effort to highlight what takes place 1367 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: at other universities like Harvard and UNC and that it 1368 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 1: was not targeting Clemson. Let me tell you something, Turning 1369 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: Point USA. At Clemson, if y'all don't shut the f 1370 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: up forever, what the hell do people at Clemson care 1371 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 1: about what's going on at Harvard in UNC. Okay, if 1372 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 1: you care about what's going on at Harvard and UNC, 1373 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: take that bake sale and stay last cookies to UNC. 1374 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 1: Okay four hours and sixteen minutes drive via I eighty 1375 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: five North by Okay, Clemson, Clemson, turn Upoint USA. You 1376 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: want to go to Harvard fifteen hours and fifteen minutes 1377 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 1: drive via eighty five North and I ninety five North. Buy, Okay. Go. 1378 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: If you're gonna make up reasons to do stuff like this, 1379 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: at least make up decent ones. Okay, at least make 1380 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: up ones that makes sense. Are you trying to highlight 1381 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: what happens at two other schools at your school? Aboord mission, 1382 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I've seen enough? Okay, and look, I totally disagree with 1383 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 1: your stands on affirmative action. Okay. Instead of whipping up 1384 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: a fresh table of cookies, how about to simply explain 1385 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: to me why you are opposed to affirmative action. I 1386 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: would love to hear an intelligent, non racist response, but 1387 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: we know we will never get that because there isn't one. 1388 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 1: That's why Turning Point USA at Clemson has to resort 1389 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 1: the silly ass soft batch stunts like this. Please, Turning 1390 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Point USA at Clemson, the biggest. He are all right, Charlomagne, 1391 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 1: thank you for that donkey of the day. Now, when 1392 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: we come back, we have author trainer Jason Wilson. He's 1393 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 1: been up here before. We're gonna talk to him again. 1394 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 1: He has a new documentary. We're gonna kick it about. 1395 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I 1396 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 1: want to get everybody is dj n V Charlomagne the guy. 1397 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 1398 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: in the building. Man, one of the most necessary black 1399 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,919 Speaker 1: men walk in the face of the earth, Brother Jason Willson. Welcome, brother, brother. 1400 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: How are you doing that? How you finally? You weren't here? 1401 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't here last time. No, No, I wasn't here 1402 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: last time. I was on the road. Wow. A pleasure 1403 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: to meet for people that don't know who you are. 1404 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: You want to just break down quickly what you do, 1405 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: who you are, and some of your history. Well, yeah, 1406 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: my name is Jason Wilson. I'm author of best selling 1407 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 1: books Cry Like a Man, Breaking Fighting for Freedom from 1408 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Emotional Incarceration, and my second book is Battle Cry, Waging 1409 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and Winning the War Within. I'm also as a founder 1410 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: and CEO of a nonprofit called the Union Base in Detroit, 1411 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: which under this umbrella is the Cave of Adullam Transformation 1412 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 1: or Training Academy. But we helped boys navigate through their 1413 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: emotions without succumbing to them. In the world is full 1414 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 1: of pressure, you know. You know, we didn't talk about 1415 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: this a lot last time. We did, but not really. 1416 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: People don't know your background, and well if you they've 1417 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: read your books, they know your background. But how you 1418 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: evolved as a human and got to the Jason Wilson, 1419 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 1: we know, like you was in the street. Yeah, yeah, 1420 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I never was a thug, but I hung 1421 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: around those who were in gangs in my community. You know. 1422 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: Again it was I didn't have a father, so and 1423 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 1: my brothers, two of them were murdered, actually one at 1424 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 1: that time when I was younger. Then my other brother 1425 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 1: moved to Texas. So I needed the camaraderie and so 1426 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,040 Speaker 1: I hung around everyone who was in the games. But 1427 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't like actively in it. However, I risked my 1428 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: life many times trying to fit this mode of what 1429 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 1: it is to be a thug. And then after losing 1430 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: a lot of friends to violence, and then more importantly 1431 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: answering my call to the most high. That's when my 1432 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: life completely changed into the man that I am today. 1433 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember the turning point? Like do you remember 1434 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: that that like bug moment? It took me almost dying 1435 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 1: twice and then those incidents being connected to prophetic you 1436 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,680 Speaker 1: know words. So basically, one time I was driving a 1437 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 1: good friend of mine's truck. At the time, he was 1438 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the number one draft pick in the NBA, and he 1439 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: told me his mother told him not to drive the truck, 1440 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 1: but he allowed me to drive it to go to 1441 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,839 Speaker 1: the studio because she said someone had to get an accident. 1442 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 1: That someone was me. So when I was driving back 1443 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: from the studio brothers, a car start right in front 1444 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: of me, and by the time I got up on it, 1445 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: it was I was driving a fore run of truck 1446 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 1: and at the time they were top heavy, So when 1447 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: I I went to swerve, the truck flipped over two times. 1448 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 1: Some ruth opened windows down, sounds blasting, and I survived. 1449 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: But what he struck you myself? Yes, So when he 1450 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 1: came into the emergency room screaming and crying like dog, 1451 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: you know you gotta listen, I'm like, dude, I'm finally 1452 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,600 Speaker 1: just got me on this board just in case I 1453 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: have any damage vertebrates. He says, no, my mother told 1454 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 1: me this was going to happen, and you gotta answer 1455 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 1: your call. But even then I still didn't listen. So 1456 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: fast forward another maybe four years. I'm working for Coca 1457 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 1: Cola and I'm talking to Nicole, who is my wife now, 1458 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 1: and I'm upset brother, because I'm working twelve hour days. 1459 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 1: I'm gifted in music and it's helping mentoring young boys, 1460 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: but yet I'm in this plant all day. And so 1461 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 1: we're on the phone and I said, you know what, 1462 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 1: God ain't real, so don't tell me about praying or 1463 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Because if he was real, why 1464 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm in here wasting my life where I can't even 1465 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 1: spend time with my daughter. I hang the phone up. 1466 01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 1: Ten minutes later, I go, like every night, to the 1467 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 1: Palette truck. For the first time, the driver didn't lock 1468 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 1: the brakes on the semi. I hit the back of 1469 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: the truck with my high low couldn't get on it first, 1470 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: back up. I'm angry because I couldn't get on. Then 1471 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: I hit it again and I'm able to get on, 1472 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 1: but this time because the brakes weren't chalked or locked. 1473 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 1: The bed of the truck pushed away from me, but 1474 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 1: I was leaving the dock. High Low falls to her 1475 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 1: needed this fall off the high low the truck. The 1476 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: back of the truck was about to roll back on me, 1477 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: but the forks of the high low dropped down and 1478 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: stop the truck. And then my friend gets inside the 1479 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: high low to hit the brakes on that so it 1480 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: wouldn't crush me. At that point, I looked up to 1481 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 1: the sky and I said, most high, I said, I 1482 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 1: never go against you again. Wow. Literally, we're trying to 1483 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: buy a house where we're getting married. The week before 1484 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: we had to close the truck and company wanted to 1485 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 1: settle with me, and that's how we had the money 1486 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 1: to close on the house. And ever since then, Brothers, 1487 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 1: I haven't looked back. You know, truthfully, you know, I'm 1488 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 1: a guy that just like keeping my hands to the plow. 1489 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, this is a blessing that I haven't opportunity 1490 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 1: to share what has happened in my life so it 1491 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,760 Speaker 1: can inspire others. But I never desired any of the attention, 1492 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 1: or rather just the lights cut off and I do 1493 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 1: what I need to do. And what got you into 1494 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: martial arts. Always desired you know, my father was in 1495 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 1: the same city but wasn't actively in my life. So 1496 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: I desired to have that man, you know, teach me 1497 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: not only how to fight, every boy wants to learn 1498 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: how to defend himself. But it was when you see 1499 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 1: the old Marshal Art movies, you see the since walking 1500 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,719 Speaker 1: along with them, helping them throughout life, and I yearned 1501 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 1: for that and I didn't have it. Even when I 1502 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,600 Speaker 1: first started martial arts in my backyard, I didn't have 1503 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 1: a teacher. I kind of felt like David and the 1504 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 1: scriptures where the most high it's testified as the one 1505 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: who trained him for war. But then after that moment, 1506 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: I started seeking going into marshal Art schools, and it 1507 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 1: the challenge of facing your fears, you know, facing your anxieties, 1508 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: your insecurities. In sports you can kind of hide from it, 1509 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 1: and martial arts when the punch coming at you, a 1510 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: kick and elboy, someone's trying to choke you or take 1511 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 1: your back like in jiu jitsu, you got to be 1512 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 1: able to stay calm enough to be able to counter 1513 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 1: all of that. And so that journey just never stopped 1514 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: even now, as a man, I still have what we 1515 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 1: call a moment on a mat. We even have fathers 1516 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 1: who would get on the train in the cave and 1517 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 1: their breakdown crying because a certain technique or training take 1518 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: them back to a moment in their childhood where it's painful. 1519 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting, right because you know when I hear you 1520 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,839 Speaker 1: tell your story, or I think about stories of evolution, 1521 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: like you know, Malcolm Max, so I think about anything 1522 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 1: that we've even been through. It feels like this generation 1523 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 1: of kids aren't getting the opportunity to make the same mistake. Well, 1524 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,680 Speaker 1: a big shout out to Orange, New Jersey. We was 1525 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 1: just there yesterday, superintended Abdul Salim Hassan. He was reading 1526 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 1: my book Battle Cry. This brother is so active in 1527 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 1: the community man, he has father groups. One of the 1528 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 1: main things the thing we were talking about is that 1529 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 1: the boys didn't feel like they had enough grace to 1530 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 1: make a mistake. And so when a boy fears failure, 1531 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 1: he tries to play it safe. And as we know, 1532 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 1: the safe route for me, you know my ultimatum. If 1533 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't have made it in music, because I also 1534 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: was a music producer, I was gonna sell drugs with 1535 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 1: my brother. Okay, because that was the quick way out. 1536 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 1: I can get money. He's a millionaire established in the streets, 1537 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 1: so I can make it happen. But to do things 1538 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,680 Speaker 1: it's hard, like start a nonprofit, serve the community, be 1539 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 1: able to bless all my other friends with employment. My 1540 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 1: brother ron Lee Junior here has been with me my 1541 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:32,759 Speaker 1: twenty two years. And so it was the boys, woman 1542 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: young man. I never forgot. He started showing his emotions 1543 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 1: because it's hard to get boys to express themselves in 1544 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: a culture that tells us that crying is weak for men. 1545 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, where's your father? And that's 1546 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: when everything started pouring out of him. And I always 1547 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,639 Speaker 1: get to my knees to make sure they know I'm 1548 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: all in for what you're talking about, and I welcome 1549 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 1: your tears. It was trial and error, trial and error learning, 1550 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 1: and he's not there, and then next thing you know, 1551 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,200 Speaker 1: the other boys start opening up. And so in the 1552 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: cave what we do. The first thing you learn when 1553 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,439 Speaker 1: you come to the Cave of Adullum is how to fall. 1554 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,520 Speaker 1: So we teach you you though, but the life principle 1555 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 1: is if you know how to fall correctly, you can 1556 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,599 Speaker 1: get back up. No matter how hard someone throws you. 1557 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,759 Speaker 1: All right, well, don't move. We got more with Jason Wilson. 1558 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: When we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. 1559 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Everybody is d Envy Charlemagne the guy we are to 1560 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Were still kicking it with Jason Wilson. You 1561 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,680 Speaker 1: talk about the cave. For people that don't know what 1562 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 1: that is, dull the Cave of Adullam. Explain to people 1563 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: what that is. There's also a new film, but for 1564 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 1: people are just tuning in, we're talking to Jason well 1565 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 1: and they might not know they hear you talk of 1566 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 1: the cave, or somebody wanted to join the cave to 1567 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: break down what that is, because if somebody might be 1568 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 1: confused right now. So the Cave of a Dullham historically 1569 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 1: is where David ran for his life, David in the Bible, 1570 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 1: who fought go life and became the king of israel Um. 1571 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: He ran to the Cave of Adullum, which is a 1572 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 1: cave in the city of a Dullam. And the story 1573 01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,280 Speaker 1: goes that one hundred men who were distressed, discontented, end 1574 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,759 Speaker 1: in debt came to him and he became a captain. 1575 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: And what's beautiful about that history is that the way 1576 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 1: these men came into that cave, they didn't leave that way. 1577 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,799 Speaker 1: When they left, they would call mighty men of balance. 1578 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 1: So the Cave of a Dulham presently is a transformational 1579 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 1: training academy in Detroit. Our mission is to teach, train, 1580 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: and transform uninitiated boys and the comprehensive men, men of 1581 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,759 Speaker 1: the most high, men who are physically conscious, mentally astute, 1582 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 1: and spiraually strong enough to navigate through the pressures of 1583 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 1: this world without succumbing to their negative emotions. The brother 1584 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: to express himself, Yes, you know what I mean through 1585 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,759 Speaker 1: through Marshal Larkson. He was crying, but he was coaching 1586 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 1: him through it. I was like, man, that's so powerful. 1587 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 1: And then that our Laurence Fitshburn connect. Yeah. And so 1588 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 1: it was even interesting about the video brother, because that 1589 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,799 Speaker 1: happens a lot in our academy. So when it went viral, 1590 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 1: we had no idea what was going on. We had 1591 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 1: to shut our offices down for two days because men 1592 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: were calling all over the world and crying to our 1593 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 1: women's staff like I wish he was my coach. You know, 1594 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I needed that growing up. You know the reason I'm 1595 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 1: this way now hold onto so much anger because I 1596 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: never was allowed to express those emotions and so that 1597 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,759 Speaker 1: struck a chord that I had no idea that needed 1598 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 1: to be discussed. And so when that video went viral, 1599 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 1: I got contacted by three Hollywood producers, one of which 1600 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: was a gentleman named Roy Bank, who said, hey, man, 1601 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,879 Speaker 1: I think this story needs to be told fast forward 1602 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 1: him he met with Lawrence Fishburn one day. So when 1603 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: Lawrence saw it, he was just blown away because of 1604 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 1: his desire for having a ride of passage for our community. 1605 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: And the rest was history here and I became close 1606 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 1: like brothers, and he's definitely an advocate of what we do, 1607 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: and he sees the importance of helping a boy he needs. 1608 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 1: Every young boy needs a marking time, whether they said 1609 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 1: you're no longer allowed to do childish things. And this 1610 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: is why we have so many grown men and stuck 1611 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:01,560 Speaker 1: in basements because we haven't gave them a ceremony. Say, 1612 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 1: this village needs to now treat such and such like 1613 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: a man. He has put away childish things now and 1614 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,680 Speaker 1: he is now to be treated and giving responsibility. And 1615 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,640 Speaker 1: so that's what our goal is in the cave, is 1616 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 1: to create this comprehensive boy, heal the boy, so we 1617 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:23,680 Speaker 1: can stop into generational trauma and start into generational healing. Yes, yes, sir, 1618 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 1: Yes sir. And what's beautiful is that the fathers, I say, 1619 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 1: and every grown man is a broken boy inside. And 1620 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas says it's easier to raise children than it 1621 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 1: is to repair broken men. How that is very true. However, 1622 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 1: we should not leave men broken, and so I have 1623 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 1: a passion for mending men, using the mat to heal 1624 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 1: the father in some relationship. Us as men of our era, 1625 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 1: we grew up, we had to be tough. Don't cry, 1626 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's that shows that's a sign of weakness. 1627 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,679 Speaker 1: And many times when I have recruits doing something completely different, 1628 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 1: like one instance, we would just doing falls breakfast and 1629 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 1: one of the young men was started crying, I'm like, 1630 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 1: what's wrong? And he kept looking at his dad and 1631 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,599 Speaker 1: he looked back at me, and he kept looking at 1632 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 1: his dad and his dad as a boxer xboxer, And 1633 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,800 Speaker 1: I called his father on him, man, and I shared 1634 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,640 Speaker 1: with him what's going on. And he says, you know, 1635 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 1: he says, man, I pushed him away too hard. I said, 1636 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 1: we'll share that with him. And I sat both of 1637 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: them on the side and they were just hugging each 1638 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 1: other and talking because he needed to share his wounds 1639 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,600 Speaker 1: with his own son. And so as long as a 1640 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,759 Speaker 1: father fears vulnerability, our sons will grow up and start 1641 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 1: repressing what they feel. And then the cycle of being 1642 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,560 Speaker 1: like unavailable emotionally for our wives continues, you know. And 1643 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 1: I know so many good men, especially millennial men, don't 1644 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 1: have mentors, and so they fear getting married because your 1645 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 1: Instagram profile is not your life. Eventually, she's going to 1646 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: see that you worried. She's going to see that you're 1647 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,719 Speaker 1: fearful you got a father or your your mother wasn't there. 1648 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: And so as men, it's like, man, you know, they 1649 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,679 Speaker 1: want to get their ducks in a row, which is admirable, Um, 1650 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 1: but I always ask him, when is the last time 1651 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,879 Speaker 1: you've seen ducks in a row? You know what I mean? Seriously, 1652 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 1: you know. And our good friend, you know, uh, you know, 1653 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 1: we talked me actually we were outside talking to him, 1654 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,080 Speaker 1: and that was his reason for not marrying a woman. 1655 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:26,719 Speaker 1: He longed for us in the row. He just wanted 1656 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 1: to have his finance as the house and everything. And 1657 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 1: I get that, and that makes sense, But you're about 1658 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,879 Speaker 1: to lose this woman that you can get. And because 1659 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,519 Speaker 1: he married her, they're doing great things right now. My 1660 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 1: wife and I got it together together. You know, we 1661 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,719 Speaker 1: worked hard. She made more money than me. You gotta 1662 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,559 Speaker 1: say that again. My wife and I got it together together, 1663 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,639 Speaker 1: and so I wouldn't I didn't want to lose my 1664 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 1: wife for my producing dreams. But because she made more 1665 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 1: money than me didn't make me less of a man, 1666 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 1: less of a leader. I still led my home. I 1667 01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 1: put her check in our bank account. And now you know, 1668 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 1: my wife learned too well. I learned to value myself 1669 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 1: more than from what I do. And that's why when 1670 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 1: I get approached by men, you know, I mean doctors, 1671 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,400 Speaker 1: lawyers come up to me, crime man say, I don't 1672 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,720 Speaker 1: feel valuable because we base everything on what we do 1673 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,680 Speaker 1: instead of who we are, and that's why we work tirelessly. 1674 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 1: We adopted the grinding mentality, which is killing a lot 1675 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 1: of us. Let me ask, I want to go back 1676 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 1: to what you're saying, not to cut you off. I 1677 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 1: want to know you did cut him off. No, because 1678 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 1: I want to go back before because he's about to change. 1679 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,600 Speaker 1: You were talking about the boxes. Yeah, and he was 1680 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: talking about his son and he said it he was 1681 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 1: too hard on his son. Now, now, how do you 1682 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 1: tell the people that come to the cave about pushing 1683 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 1: that child? Because we look at so many instances where 1684 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 1: our father pushes their child. And then we see greats, 1685 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: whether it's Beyonce or it's Michael Jackson, and you see 1686 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these greats, but you also see it 1687 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,360 Speaker 1: because they push their child to that limit. And you 1688 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 1: do understand that if that father didn't push that child, 1689 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,760 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have that. So, so how do you blur that? 1690 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, depends on your definition of success? Is it 1691 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: money and a lack of peace, a lack of having 1692 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 1: true confidence that your parents really loved you. So I 1693 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,920 Speaker 1: talked to a lot of successful people who families have 1694 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,120 Speaker 1: pushed them, but yet they're struggling mentally right now because 1695 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,719 Speaker 1: they didn't get the love. You see what I'm saying, 1696 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 1: And so it's like it's not even a fine line, 1697 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,679 Speaker 1: you know, And so sometimes that pushing is abuse. Brother, 1698 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: I we don't move. We got more with Jason Wilson. 1699 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,000 Speaker 1: When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, 1700 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club is back. Where I 1701 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 1: want to be morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Charlemagne the guy. 1702 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with 1703 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 1: Jason Wilson Charlemagne. No. You know what I love about God? Man, 1704 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,840 Speaker 1: Like God is the best NOI in planner, Right. You 1705 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,800 Speaker 1: think about this, This film The Cave of Iwa was 1706 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 1: pronouncing Cave of a Dullam exactly produced by Launce Fishburn. 1707 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,559 Speaker 1: It's probably could have went anywhere. Look where it ended up. ESPN, 1708 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: the worldwide leader in sports, a network that you know 1709 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,520 Speaker 1: so many men watch. Like God put that dock exactly 1710 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 1: where it needed to be for who needed to see 1711 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 1: absolutely man. And what's the blessing is when I get 1712 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 1: reached out to my NBA players or football players to 1713 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: see their transparency and wanting to grow, wanting to become 1714 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:26,000 Speaker 1: better husbands and better fathers and better individuals. Man, it 1715 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,960 Speaker 1: just makes the the hard work, the blood sweat, and 1716 01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: literally the tears worth it, because you know we'll see 1717 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,120 Speaker 1: the cars, the fame, top seventy five in history. But 1718 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,599 Speaker 1: yet they're struggling behind the scenes. They're hurting. They want 1719 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 1: to say their marriage, they want to be more patient, 1720 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,519 Speaker 1: they don't want to yell at their kids because they're 1721 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 1: running late at school, you know, for school, and so 1722 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 1: to be able to be a source of encouragement somewhat 1723 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: like a spiritual father to them all, and then for 1724 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 1: them to watch the Cave of a Dollar Cave of 1725 01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,759 Speaker 1: Adullum documentary and see themselves in one of those boys, 1726 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 1: and to finally have that healing cry to say, wow, 1727 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 1: I've been holding on a lot of this pain of 1728 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 1: how my father would always condemn me when I would 1729 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: make a mistake, or my mother was emotionally checked out 1730 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 1: because my brother was murdered, and I never really got 1731 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,720 Speaker 1: that nurturing love, and then to get that healing and 1732 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: then to go back to your father and say, hey, Dad, 1733 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: I forgive you, I love you. Can we start fresh now? 1734 01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: Or Mom, I completely understand why you guarded your heart 1735 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 1: because of the heaviness of the brokenness of you losing 1736 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,720 Speaker 1: my brother and your son. And that's the beauty of 1737 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:39,080 Speaker 1: the Cave documentary. It showcases that although as a people 1738 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 1: in our communities we experienced a lot of trauma, it 1739 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be our experience, our entire experience. I 1740 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 1: want to go back to something you said earlier, because 1741 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, NBA Young Boy just did an interview with 1742 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 1: Billboard and he expressed the same thing. And I've heard 1743 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people expressed this. I've expressed it myself, 1744 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 1: you know, just as far as you know, the content 1745 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:01,840 Speaker 1: that we may have created as we were growing and evolving, 1746 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,680 Speaker 1: and you know, you was talking about the music, and 1747 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, how much we should give ourselves a lot 1748 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 1: of grace in regards to the music we used to 1749 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,719 Speaker 1: create or even the content we used to create, because 1750 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 1: we literally were doing the best with what we had 1751 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 1: and we were in survival mold and and I'm a 1752 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 1: type of person I feel like you got to give 1753 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 1: people grace when they're doing what they feel like they 1754 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 1: need to do to survive and not necessarily and what 1755 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I can use my brother for example, he 1756 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 1: sold drugs because he needed he thought that's what he 1757 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 1: needed to do to survive. As a result, a lot 1758 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 1: of people lost their lives. So I can't really, you know, 1759 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,880 Speaker 1: celebrate that, not celebrate that. But once he knew better, 1760 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: he started doing better. No he didn't. Oh man, he 1761 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 1: died terrible death and he didn't do better. And so 1762 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: again I didn't come out because I just I knew. 1763 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,640 Speaker 1: I knew I was wrong. I knew I shouldn't have 1764 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,160 Speaker 1: been doing what I was doing with my gift. But 1765 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,080 Speaker 1: it was those two near death experiences that changed me. 1766 01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: Now I do get what you're saying. Have enough great 1767 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 1: yourself to not condemn yourself for some wrong that you've done. 1768 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Forgive yourself and move forward. But we still have to 1769 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 1: acknowledge that what we were doing was wrong, and that's 1770 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,720 Speaker 1: the key. If not, you know, the next generation will 1771 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,360 Speaker 1: keep doing it, and then the next generation. And we 1772 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,760 Speaker 1: came up and what they considered a golden era of 1773 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,599 Speaker 1: hip hop, you know. And so you look at the covers. 1774 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 1: I was just sharing this with the young kids yesterday. 1775 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 1: None of the rappers I love smile out on the 1776 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 1: album cover, and so we call it an asset framed marketing. 1777 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 1: So now in the cave where if you look at 1778 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the first class picture, everyone was tough, Now all of 1779 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 1: my boys smile because it's imperative that we changed this narrative. 1780 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,640 Speaker 1: And so what's wrong with smiling? You know? You what, 1781 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 1: you don't want to be perceived as a joke. You know, 1782 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 1: I know guys that have smiled, You wouldn't stand one 1783 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 1: minute with them, in a ring or on a map. 1784 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 1: It does not dictate who you are as a man. 1785 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 1: So I want to be compassionate, but also want to 1786 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,679 Speaker 1: be courageous. I want to be sincere, but I want 1787 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 1: to be strong. And so that's what I want to 1788 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,760 Speaker 1: model for boys and men, because at the end of 1789 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 1: the day, none of us want to stay in what 1790 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,599 Speaker 1: I call like lyon mold or fight a flight where 1791 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 1: you gotta be grimming all the time and tough looking 1792 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,160 Speaker 1: over your shoulder. I have to be that way when 1793 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,040 Speaker 1: I have to be. But I want to live in 1794 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 1: the lamb. I want to be at peace. I want 1795 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 1: to chill in the green pastures as long as I can. However, 1796 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 1: when a predator comes or threat comes, the lion will 1797 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 1: arise and defend the pride. And that's the importance of 1798 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,720 Speaker 1: us as men to model that. Even in the hip 1799 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: hop culture, like a lot of rappers that reach out 1800 01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,840 Speaker 1: to me I was like a fan of and so 1801 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,960 Speaker 1: it blesses me to hear them say, man, I really 1802 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 1: respect what you're doing, and I want to become that 1803 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,680 Speaker 1: type of man. And as you know, from the survival 1804 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,599 Speaker 1: standpoint and hip hop, many of us did what we 1805 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 1: had to do to eat, But a lot of that 1806 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 1: was in a dream. We want to be rich, we 1807 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,719 Speaker 1: want to be paid. And truth be told, in Detroit, 1808 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 1: the majority of drug dealers, I knew they didn't have 1809 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: to sell drugs. Yeah, so drugs because you got props 1810 01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: from it, you got women, you got the cars. It 1811 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,920 Speaker 1: wasn't a necessity to eat. But that all comes from 1812 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 1: a place of lack right, not necessarily lack of financi affirmation. 1813 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 1: Brother feeling special celebrating that, and so my brother wasn't starving. 1814 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 1: But when his friends pulled up in the BMW, he's 1815 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 1: working at a gas station pumping the gas, and the 1816 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 1: girl he'd liked was in the car, and they all 1817 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: laughed at him and pulled off. He vowed he would 1818 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 1: that would never happen to him again. And when I 1819 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,920 Speaker 1: said it never happened to him again, it never happened 1820 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 1: to him again. But unfortunately he's not here to see 1821 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 1: his daughter life. I wonder if we can play that 1822 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 1: NBA young boy, click? Can you play it from the 1823 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,679 Speaker 1: board right now? I'm terrified people, and I'm very shocked 1824 01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,840 Speaker 1: that I never knew why once I walk on the 1825 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:54,120 Speaker 1: stage I would get it done. I'm terrified the people. 1826 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,800 Speaker 1: People are cruels, like you can't control to yourself so 1827 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 1: you're never know or someone who threw him. I always 1828 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,640 Speaker 1: wanted to be a rapper. It's always my dream. I 1829 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,719 Speaker 1: never had a plan. B. I can't down on top 1830 01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 1: fore them. You know, I will not be provoked and 1831 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going back to why I used to be. 1832 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: I only get more grooved from here. Wow. You get 1833 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 1: a pain in that brother's voice. Absolutely, and that's you 1834 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,320 Speaker 1: know again, I don't I don't condemn. I want to 1835 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,160 Speaker 1: be clear. I don't condemn where these rappers are right now. 1836 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,439 Speaker 1: You know, I look at them as my sons and 1837 01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,080 Speaker 1: I can't say their name, and when they reach out, 1838 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm here for you, you know, call me. 1839 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,840 Speaker 1: And that's the scariest step for many of them. It's like, man, okay, 1840 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,599 Speaker 1: here's a man who's finally willing to engage in my life. 1841 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 1: But that fear of taking that first step to healing. Um. 1842 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 1: I had a UFC fire to come visit me. Literally 1843 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 1: we're talking one day. I said, we'll look, just come 1844 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,639 Speaker 1: see me, man if it's that heavy, he said, I'm 1845 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,840 Speaker 1: there in the morning at six am. So he flew 1846 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 1: in for the first time, and he's met with therapists before. 1847 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,679 Speaker 1: I had him right out all of his past trauma 1848 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 1: and he looked at it and broke down crying in 1849 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,519 Speaker 1: my chair and hit in the chair in the office. 1850 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,400 Speaker 1: Champion Fighter never was able to face that. And so 1851 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,320 Speaker 1: one of our greatest fears is men is dealing with ourselves. 1852 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,519 Speaker 1: That's why we can't sit in a room when it's quiet. 1853 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 1: We got to always be on the phone or smoking 1854 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 1: or doing something drinking. But when you can put all 1855 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 1: of that aside and just sit still, no matter if 1856 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,240 Speaker 1: it's shaking you to the core, and ready to face it, 1857 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,280 Speaker 1: then you can start healing. That's why I choose to 1858 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,799 Speaker 1: use my platform in such a way where I'm not perfect. 1859 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,800 Speaker 1: I strive for excellence. I used to strive for perfection, 1860 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 1: but on my desk right now as a plaque that 1861 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,800 Speaker 1: says excellentist, because that's all I can strive for. I 1862 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,679 Speaker 1: can't be a perfectionist, and I want people to see 1863 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 1: my life even with my wife and I. You know 1864 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty five years. This year wasn't an easy journey. No infidelity, 1865 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,840 Speaker 1: no gambling, no we just miss you so finances, we 1866 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 1: just didn't get along, we would the years of just 1867 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 1: me being negative to her or her years of not 1868 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,599 Speaker 1: trusting me. I can give a recent example, which was 1869 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 1: kind of funny. We're in counseling, marital counseling, and our 1870 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,960 Speaker 1: therapist was like, okay, since no one is mind readers, Nicole, 1871 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,800 Speaker 1: you asked Jason what you would like one thing, and 1872 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,360 Speaker 1: then Jason you asked her what you would like. So 1873 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 1: my wife says, well, Jay, when you come home, I 1874 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 1: would love for you to acknowledge me first instead of 1875 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,400 Speaker 1: going to a little ja. I said, okay, I'll do that, 1876 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,040 Speaker 1: and then he says, what about you, Jay? And so 1877 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there inside of me, I'm like, I wish 1878 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,439 Speaker 1: you would just submit to me, submit to my leadership, 1879 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, stop bucking against what I say. That's the flesh, 1880 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,439 Speaker 1: that's anger. But what I really was feeling was like 1881 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,519 Speaker 1: it hurts because she doesn't trust me. And so I 1882 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 1: turned to Nicole I said, hey, um, I would like 1883 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,639 Speaker 1: for you to trust me, and she just shook head 1884 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,880 Speaker 1: and she knew exactly what I was saying because that 1885 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,960 Speaker 1: was from my heart. Absolutely damn a lot of knowledge. 1886 01:31:54,960 --> 01:32:00,559 Speaker 1: Appreciate You're gonna get battle, cry, go get like a man. 1887 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,160 Speaker 1: Order them on Amazon wherever you buy books. Now make 1888 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:08,680 Speaker 1: sure you watch you know, it's on ESPN Plus and 1889 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 1: then uh, it randomly airs on ESPN. So I appreciate 1890 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,040 Speaker 1: ESPN doing that just to get it out. And we're 1891 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,840 Speaker 1: also doing like live screenings of the film. And then 1892 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,200 Speaker 1: we have a fireside chat for social and emotional learning 1893 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,120 Speaker 1: for students so they can see the value. Yes, so 1894 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,280 Speaker 1: they can see the value in expressing their emotions before 1895 01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,800 Speaker 1: they become toxic thoughts and following them on social media. Yes, 1896 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:37,320 Speaker 1: mister Jason O. Wilson. All right, Jason Wilsons, and I 1897 01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 1: value you and I appreciate you. Man, appreciate you to everybody. 1898 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:46,639 Speaker 1: Come on, Charlemagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. 1899 01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,200 Speaker 1: Now it's Black History Month. It's definitely Black History Month, 1900 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 1: and you know every day during Black History Month, the 1901 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,599 Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcast Network, along with iHeartRadio, we put out 1902 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,960 Speaker 1: a new podcast called I Didn't Know, Maybe You Didn't Need. 1903 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 1: The hosted about my guy b Dot, and b Dot 1904 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:07,120 Speaker 1: tells you from things that are happening in black history 1905 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,080 Speaker 1: and black culture that you may not have known about. 1906 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Our things that have happened that you may not have 1907 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,800 Speaker 1: known about and today we have some language that you 1908 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,600 Speaker 1: may not have known where this term derived from. But 1909 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,680 Speaker 1: I bet you after you know, you won't use it 1910 01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 1: no more. I didn't know, I didn't know. It's season 1911 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,639 Speaker 1: one way threw our words that we just aren't using 1912 01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,080 Speaker 1: any more. But here's got a couple of the terms 1913 01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,799 Speaker 1: that I know I personally won't be using anymore. Duncan 1914 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 1: booth or cheaper about the dozen. Matter of fact, I 1915 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 1: go ahead and get you that one. In those enslaved times, 1916 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,679 Speaker 1: they used to put the mutilated enslaved people in groups 1917 01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,639 Speaker 1: of twelve, and it would be discounts on that twelve, 1918 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:52,320 Speaker 1: which means you can get this group cheaper about the dozens. Now, 1919 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,000 Speaker 1: when you think about somebody being knocked up, you usually 1920 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,840 Speaker 1: think about pregnancy. You know, oh, she got knocked up, 1921 01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,960 Speaker 1: she's pregnant. Now, the Oxford English Dictionary traces to turn 1922 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 1: back to eighteen thirteen. Now I dig this back. Then, 1923 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:11,400 Speaker 1: the price of an enslaved African woman was knocked up 1924 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,679 Speaker 1: by the auctioneer. If she's pregnant, say you was getting 1925 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,719 Speaker 1: a bogo two for one. So in the enslaved periods, 1926 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,760 Speaker 1: if she was pregnant, oh, that price was knocked up 1927 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,360 Speaker 1: when she went to go get sold the same way. 1928 01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,320 Speaker 1: Now you can hear someone say, oh she's pregnant. She 1929 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 1: been knocked up. Now take that to school or work 1930 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:35,400 Speaker 1: with you. Because I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. 1931 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,160 Speaker 1: That's right. Scowth to my guy b dot Man and 1932 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to I didn't know. Maybe you 1933 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,720 Speaker 1: didn't need the you know on the Black Effect. iHeartRadio 1934 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:48,680 Speaker 1: podcast network available everywhere you listen to podcasts. All right, 1935 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,479 Speaker 1: when we come back, we got the positive note it's 1936 01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:54,720 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody, a cej Envy Charlemagne 1937 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,400 Speaker 1: the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. You got a 1938 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,839 Speaker 1: positive I do, but I got a couple of announcement 1939 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,240 Speaker 1: so I want to make first of all, man, I 1940 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,280 Speaker 1: want to first of all tell us like it's church, 1941 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,280 Speaker 1: no it is. These are church and nomis. We do 1942 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,720 Speaker 1: this on Brilliant Initius Church Noss, but I'm doing them here. 1943 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 1: February eighth, Brooklyn Public Library from seven pm the eight 1944 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 1: thirty pm. Myself along with Tamika Mallory and I need 1945 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,840 Speaker 1: a copax. We will be there representing my book in print, 1946 01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:20,640 Speaker 1: Black Privilege Publishing. You know I got a book in 1947 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,840 Speaker 1: print with Simon and Schuster. We've put out two books 1948 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,719 Speaker 1: through that imprint. One was Tomka de Mallory State of Emergency, 1949 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 1: How to Win in the Country We built. The other 1950 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 1: ones A Need to co Packs Shallow Waters. And so 1951 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,960 Speaker 1: they'll be there signing copies of their books. I'll be 1952 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,160 Speaker 1: there signing copies of my books Black Privilege in Shop 1953 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,320 Speaker 1: Point and we're just gonna be having a discussion about 1954 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,559 Speaker 1: books from seven pm to eight thirty pm at the 1955 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,479 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Public Library. That's on Wednesday, February the eighth. So 1956 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:47,799 Speaker 1: I will see y'all there, Okay, okay. And the positive 1957 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,200 Speaker 1: note man is something very very simple you should notice 1958 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,280 Speaker 1: already if you don't, but listen, don't just pray when 1959 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:59,040 Speaker 1: you need something, Okay, Keep God with you every day, 1960 01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Pray all the time. Have a blessed weekend breakfast club bitches. 1961 01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,759 Speaker 1: You'll finish or y'all done.