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Speaker 1: Baseball playoffs start. Regular season end Sunday. Baseball playoffs start.

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Speaker 1: Brewers Mariners World Series Milwaukee to win it. Stop up.

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Speaker 1: You cannot win a World Series with a bad bully. Can't.

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Speaker 1: Can't do it. Dodgers cannot win a World Series with

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Speaker 1: that bullpen. Mariners, you're getting emotional Mariners having the eleak closer,

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Speaker 1: top seven eight staff. They don't have to manufacture rallies

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You face great pitching. You gotta hit

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Speaker 1: some jacks, you gotta get home right, you gotta get

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Speaker 1: fast runs. You're not gonna have six hit rallies against

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Speaker 1: the best staffs. You're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: We'll merge that hot take with some actual odds later

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Speaker 3: in the show. If you want to revisit, I can.

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Speaker 4: Assure you the Mariners are not close to the favorites.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I can be perceptive. All Right, we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: a game before clat comes on. So these are not

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Speaker 1: all great teams, but there are no perfect teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. The Eagles are about as close as you

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Speaker 1: can get. But some of these teams have massive holes.

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Speaker 1: And my take is if you've got a star quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Matt Stafford and he's old, yeah, you need to

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Speaker 1: fix the hole. So we're gonna play panic or patience.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to go?

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Speaker 4: I think so yes.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's play this for four or five minutes.

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Speaker 3: All right, So Colin Wis are at the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: They got embarrassed by the Lions. They're thirty first in

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Speaker 3: scoring defense. Yeah, should the Ravens be panicked or patient?

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Speaker 1: I think they have to make a move at the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. You watched Detroit run all over them. Well,

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Speaker 1: who's their big rival in the AFC? Kansas City and

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and Buffalo. James Cook and Buffalo can run and

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Speaker 1: keep the ball away from Lamar Jackson. This is a

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Speaker 1: great offense, but you watch Lamar Jackson on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: against the Lions. That's what Buffalo has the ability to

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Speaker 1: do with their James Cook led run game and their

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Speaker 1: excellent tight ends. I think they have to make a

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Their offense is a Knemik twenty first in scoring Colin.

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Speaker 3: Should the Chiefs be panicked or patient?

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Speaker 1: Panic? Because this is Travis Kelsey's last year and they

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Speaker 1: So don't waste mahomes talent right now. They have no

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Speaker 1: run game Kelsey last year, cross your fingers on the

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Speaker 1: but this is Travis's last year. He will be in

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Speaker 1: the biggest games ready to roll and block, which he

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Speaker 1: wasn't early in this season. I think you need to

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Speaker 1: make a move at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Pittsburgh Steelers, they spent all that money on defense

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Speaker 3: thirty first against the run Colin?

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Speaker 4: Should the Steelers be panic their patient.

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Speaker 1: I would be more in the panic mode. I think

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Speaker 1: this is Aaron Rodgers last year. There is no guarantee

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Speaker 1: The o line is inexplicably bad again. Najie Harris is gone.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson could be a miss, could be a whiff.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't go get Aaron Rodgers for a three

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Speaker 1: year plan, it was a one year plan. Fix the

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Speaker 3: All right, both of us like the Bills to win

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. However, at three games their last in

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Speaker 1: He is like Lamar Jackson watching the game from a bench.

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Speaker 3: All right, your boy, Vo Nicks, we need to have

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Speaker 3: Three point four passer rating, lowest graded starter among PFF quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Patient, patients? Here's their upcoming schedule Bengals, Jets, Giants, Cowboys, Texans, Raiders.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have a nine to one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Take a deep breath, have patience.

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Speaker 3: Sakwon Barkley, I mean, Colin. They're three to zero, but

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Speaker 3: he has not gotten off to a good start. Panic

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Speaker 1: The Eagles have one hundred and thirty plus rushing yards

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Speaker 1: in every game. Remember, look at all his touches last year.

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Speaker 1: Look at all his touches. So take a deep breath.

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Speaker 1: I think you know need to buy a week. Could

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Speaker 1: they rest him for a week against an easier opponent.

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Speaker 1: They'll be fine, But I do think there's a little

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Speaker 4: For sure, Packers lost to the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Panic the patients patients. The brown scoring drives were four

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Speaker 3: Rams gag away a huge lead against the Eagles just

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Speaker 3: to collapse. Should they be panicked or patient? A little

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Speaker 3: panic here. Aj Brown is a problem. They don't have

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Speaker 3: size at the cornerback position. And by the way, they

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Speaker 3: They have not selected anybody in the backfield in the

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Speaker 1: They should have gone after it. I think last year

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Speaker 3: Finally, CJ. Stroud, he stinked. Should the Texans be panicked?

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Speaker 1: Our patient patients? First of all, their own line the

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon's hurt, so they have no run game. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Like most young quarterbacks, it's circumstantial. He's

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Speaker 1: on Bonix and c J. Sproud. The Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: Detroit beat Lamar Jackson. I would give up one of

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Speaker 1: interior of my d line. And with that, the voice

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Speaker 1: of college football at Fox, Joe Klatt, who's going to

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Speaker 1: be calling the Trojans and the fighting Aline I Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You can't wait for that. Let me start with this.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised by the line because I think Ohio

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Speaker 1: State's much better players than Washington. I think it'll be

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Speaker 1: a really picturesque day, but lost in you know, there's

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Speaker 1: been so much talk about Texas isn't that good? And

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Speaker 1: Clemson's falling apart? And Notre Dame lost two games. Lost

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Speaker 1: in all of it is Ohio State's really really good.

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Speaker 1: So they're not getting a lot of discussion since the

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Speaker 1: is there anywhere there better than last year's team that

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Speaker 1: won the Natty? Oh, that's a great question. Last year's team,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Husky Stadium is nothing to scoff ad Now,

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Speaker 1: Washington has the second longest home win streak in college

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Speaker 1: They had a loss since twenty twenty one, and Washington

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Speaker 1: piece of junk it is by not giving Washington one vote,

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Speaker 1: see Ohio State using a conservative game plan Colin this weekend,

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Speaker 1: And to do that in this environment I think is

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Speaker 1: going to be big for Julian saying, I think that

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Speaker 1: they'll be conservative and win this one by only a score.

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Speaker 1: Oregon at Penn State is going to be magnificent. Excellent defenses.

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Speaker 1: Drew Aller came into the season as the quarterback we

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Speaker 1: as they say, he can spin it. I think I

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Speaker 1: like Oregon with the upset. Now you're talking about two

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Speaker 1: great defenses. James Franklin doesn't get the love because he's

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Speaker 1: known as a recruiter. Well, he wanted Vandy, he won here.

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Speaker 1: Their defenses are always good. I think it's fairly low

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Speaker 1: defensees are really good. How do you see it? Well,

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Speaker 1: there's two huge question marks in this game for me.

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Speaker 1: The first one is is Penn State in general under

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Speaker 1: James Franklin, they do not win these types of games.

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Speaker 1: That's the big knock in fact, and the data backs

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Speaker 1: they won a regular season game against a Top ten opponent. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez last hour, I'm looking at my pocket schedule

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Speaker 1: on the Bears, trouble, Dodgers also troubled. Got to figure

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Speaker 2: This is the line news.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Colin Caleb Williams, he got to face the Dallas defense

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Speaker 3: lit him up two hundred and ninety eight yards four tuddies.

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Speaker 3: We've seen some growth from Caleb week over week and

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Speaker 3: tight end. Cole Comet talked about his ascendants under Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 5: I thought he played great. You know you talk about

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Speaker 5: you know, coach down up some plays and Caleb exteam

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Speaker 5: on him. It was really good to see Caleb do

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Speaker 5: all that stuff. And then when he had to make

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Speaker 5: a play, he made it to play on the fourth

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Speaker 5: down to DJ at the back of the end zone,

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Speaker 5: kind of extending a little bit and making a fine

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Speaker 5: end the receiver and getting a touchdown there. So good

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Speaker 5: stuff by Caleb. He continues to ascend every week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's too easy to just say Dallas

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Speaker 1: thinks it's still an NFL game. There's pressure. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he made big throws in big spots and he deserves credit.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean it's too easy to say Dallas tame.

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Speaker 3: Everybody just went up and down the field before we

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Speaker 3: got the interruption. And by the way, Russell Wilson threw

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Speaker 3: for four hundred and fifty yards.

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Speaker 1: Dallas gave Jalen Hurts and the Eagles problems.

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Speaker 4: Well, not before that storm.

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Speaker 3: After there was like the outage and the one hour

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Speaker 3: break where Eagles did nothing, but before that easy work.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, you can get all excited about Caleb.

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Speaker 3: He now has to go to the Raiders. Right this week,

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Speaker 3: Bears are favored. Who you got in this one.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a strong opinion.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's saying you have to. I think the Raiders will

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Speaker 4: be fighting.

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Speaker 1: I have four strong opinions this week, and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for a fifth.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to the second story.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys traded away Michael Parsons obviously, and oh, wouldn't you

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Speaker 3: know what the defense is hemorrhaging yards points. One of

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Speaker 3: the worst units in the NFL. NFL writer Robert Mays

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Speaker 3: believes this all comes down to Jerry's lack of ambition.

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Speaker 8: Previous eras of the Cowboys, when Jerry was actually the

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Speaker 8: one like pulling the strings and making a lot of

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Speaker 8: the personnel decisions, it was haphazard, it was scattershot, It

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Speaker 8: was not rooted in any sort of logic most of

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Speaker 8: the time. But at least there was a level of

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Speaker 8: ambition to it, right, Like they were trying something.

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Speaker 1: He was making moves, He's trying to go get talent.

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Speaker 1: They were trying to win.

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Speaker 8: And even if you didn't, even if you could argue

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Speaker 8: with the effectiveness of it, I think you at least

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Speaker 8: had to appreciate the fact that he was trying to

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Speaker 8: get stuff done. Now it's all of the incompetence and

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Speaker 8: incoherence with none of the ambition.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I believe this is true. I also think they

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Speaker 1: had Jimmy Johnson in the early days. By the way

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcelton, Jimmy Johnson won a lot of games, and

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Speaker 1: so I think Matt Mosley has also said something excellent

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Speaker 1: reporter down in the Dallas area is that there's a

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Speaker 1: real question whether Jerry respects and understands the value of coaching.

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Speaker 1: I think coaching has never been more important, because I

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Speaker 1: don't the game's never been smarter and more sophisticated. And

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Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't appear to value coaching. I mean, honestly, he

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Speaker 1: has hired coaches who need him. Mike McCarthy was on

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Speaker 1: the beach, Jason Garrett was not getting interviews for jobs,

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Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer wasn't, And when Matt said that, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: when you really think about it, Jerry is hired coaches

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Speaker 1: who need Jerry, and so there's this like, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: getting solid from Jerry, so you'll listen to Jerry. Buil

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Speaker 1: didn't listen to him, and Jimmy got sick of listening

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Speaker 1: to him. And Jerry feels like it's my toy, it's

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Speaker 1: my business. That's why I want to be GM. So

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Speaker 1: I think there is some of what they're saying that

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Speaker 1: podcast that is right, But I also think a big

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Speaker 1: part of it is coaching is so valuable today. Players

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Speaker 1: make more the pressures greater, owners are more impulsive, like

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Speaker 1: it's a game of benches to begin with. And I

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Speaker 1: just don't think the Cowboys, I don't think they take coaching.

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Speaker 1: They don't value it like other organizations do well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look who they hired.

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Speaker 3: You know, you come off three great seasons with McCarthy

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Speaker 3: and they were one of the better teams.

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Speaker 4: In the NFC.

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Speaker 3: I think they had like a ten and twelve wins

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Speaker 3: playoff appearances, and then you go hire Brian Schottenheimer who's

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Speaker 3: never been a head coach, never done a damn thing.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would largely agree with your take.

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Speaker 3: Final story, Colin sticking in the NFC East, the commanders man, listen,

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Speaker 3: this is a dangerous spot. Terry mcclaurin has a quad

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Speaker 3: injury and he's seeking second opinions. Colin, the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 3: are beat up and without scary Terry, this offense does

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Speaker 3: not look very scary. Jaden Daniels still has his knee injury.

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Speaker 3: Dan Quinn is not really revealing anything other than he's

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Speaker 3: day to day. I know we can't do it again,

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Speaker 3: but you have to bet the Atlanta Falcons here.

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Speaker 4: I know that sounds insane.

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Speaker 1: I refuse.

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Speaker 3: I kind of do as well, but I'm never at home.

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Speaker 3: They get the job done now I'm not getting there.

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Speaker 3: But with this injury report from Washington.

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Speaker 1: There's two things I'm never going to do again. Skydive

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Speaker 1: I've never done that ever. I'm never gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: And bet the Atlanta Falcons. I'm done. There's only thirty

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Speaker 1: one teams every league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what if Kirk Cousins takes over at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: No, not interested. I'm not doing it this team. I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing it. I won't. You know what, there's thirty

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Speaker 1: one other capable.

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Speaker 3: Bets technically fifteen. But yes, yes, I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask, did you see they fired a wide

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Speaker 3: receiver coach like they're looking for a scapegoat in Week three?

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Speaker 3: Let's get rid of this wide receiver coach like he's

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Speaker 3: doing is doing anything?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 3: Bottom line is Michael Pennix has looked terrible and he

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Speaker 3: has faced Carolina and Minnesota. He's one of the lowest

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Speaker 3: graded quarterbacks in the league according to many metrics. He's

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Speaker 3: down there with bow Nicks. That's not what I anticipated

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Speaker 3: from Penix. He showed well at the end of last year.

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Speaker 1: Remember, Yeah, yeah, I take a deep breath on that.

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Speaker 1: I think bow Nix's schedule gets gets I mean, I

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Speaker 1: do see traits with Pennix that feel elite. I think

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Speaker 1: he throws a beautiful ball.

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Speaker 4: When we start to Oh, he lost his right tackle

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Speaker 4: and he's a lefty.

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Speaker 3: We need another year. When does that start or if

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Speaker 3: it hasn't started already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's down. I see stuff. J Max

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Speaker 1: with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 1: The you know, I was, I was thinking about this today, Jamt.

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Speaker 1: How lucky are we? We got the base This is

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Speaker 1: the best next starting Tuesday is the best month in sports.

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Speaker 1: It's the best five weeks you get. I mean you're

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Speaker 1: And at the end of that, I think if your

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the last weekend where you can have

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Speaker 1: a life. By by next Tuesday, it's over. Every night

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Sports and coming up. I thought I was optimistic.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm pessimistic, but I took out the

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Speaker 1: pocket calendar on Caleb and the Bears next.

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Speaker 3: Start your Saturday strong with Big Noon Saturday Number twenty one.

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Speaker 3: USC is looking for a big ten statement win as

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Speaker 1: So I think this Sunday Week four is kind of

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Speaker 1: the last week you can fool people. I think you

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Speaker 1: kind of know by the end of week four you

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Speaker 1: kind of know what everybody is again. You can fool

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Speaker 1: people a lot longer. In college football. The coaching's not

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Speaker 1: as good, the quarterback play is not as dynamic. But

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Speaker 1: in the NFL you'll get exposed really quickly. Dallas now

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Speaker 1: starting to get exposed. I think people are sleeping on Denver.

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Speaker 1: Denver schedule gets really easy. They could reel off a

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Speaker 1: seven game winning streak. They've opened up with and Bonick

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Speaker 1: end of this week, week four, you'll kind of know

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Speaker 1: what everybody is and what they're not. We're already seeing

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Speaker 1: teams like Buffalo can't defend the run problem, Rams struggle.

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Speaker 1: Probably need a corner they didn't draft one. They probably

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Speaker 1: should have. They probably need to make a move if

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Speaker 1: they're going to get to the super Bowl and win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So I was saying, like with the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, what are they Well, I don't think the

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Speaker 1: symmetry between Ben Johnson and Caleb has been as good

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Speaker 1: as I thought it would. Beat Caleb still is freelancing

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Speaker 1: too much. Their defense has not been great. So I

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Speaker 1: three and three record in division, which they just don't

647
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Speaker 1: do in the last decade. But now they're one and two.

648
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Speaker 1: So what have I learned? What have I gleaned in

649
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: the first three games. Well, their offense is so talented

650
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: they will beat bad defenses. Dallas is a bad defense.

651
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: If you start looking around the league, they got four

652
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: or five teams here. They're probably gonna do well. At Cincinnati.

653
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: I can see some ws here. But this morning I

654
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: went back and I looked at every single game and

655
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Speaker 1: I revisited my nine to eight prediction. Here's where I

656
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: would be. On the Chicago Bears. I think they beat Vegas,

657
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: but it's really close. Lose at Washington, beat the Saints

658
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: at home, lose at Baltimore, beat Cincinnati, beat the Giants,

659
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: lose at Minnesota, close game, beat the Steelers at home,

660
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: lose to Filly in Green Bay on the road, beat Cleveland,

661
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: low scoring at home, lose to Green Bay, and at

662
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Speaker 1: San Francisco, and Detroit could very well be a playoff team.

663
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Speaker 1: I could see Detroit. I have predicted the Lions make

664
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, resting some starters in the final week. I

665
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: could see that. You know, I don't think Detroit's gonna

666
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Speaker 1: win the division. They'll have to play in the first round.

667
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Speaker 1: My take is they're a physical team, they'll be a

668
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: little banged up, they'll protect four or five starters, not everybody,

669
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Speaker 1: and they'll beat a depleted and resting Lions team and

670
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Speaker 1: that record would be eight and nine. So that's what

671
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: they would they would be an eight to nine football team. Again,

672
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Speaker 1: I said, coming in, I didn't see them as a

673
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Speaker 1: playoff team. I said, can we get synergy, harmony, chemistry?

674
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Speaker 1: Can we get that with Ben Johnson and Caleb So

675
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: far it looked really good for dalla Us for big portions.

676
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: It looked good for a series in the first two games.

677
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's I don't think that's unrealistic.

678
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: I think that's where they are right now. It's where

679
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: they are. They're gonna beat weaker defenses and go either

680
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: way games at home. But I don't think they can

681
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: win on the road at Washington, Baltimore, Minnesota, Philly, Green Bay,

682
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: or San Francisco. Now they get Green Bay at home.

683
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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. I don't think that's negative. I think,

684
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: I said, happiness is directly connected to expectations, So you know, can.

685
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Speaker 4: I ask you something about that?

686
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: So if you look at that schedule, Colin, that opener

687
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: against the Vikings was such a swing game. They were

688
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: dominating for three quarters. If they win that game, I

689
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 3: am fairly certain your projection would have been like eleven wins.

690
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: Because if you could beat a good Vikings team, right

691
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: we think the Vikings are a contender with that defense,

692
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: then maybe some of these other games, like maybe you

693
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: sweep the Vikings, maybe you don't lose both games to

694
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Speaker 3: the Packers, you know, and there's a world where I mean,

695
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: you faced Jake Browning that you know, catch a break there,

696
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know, are you sure they're losing to

697
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: Washington for sure?

698
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Speaker 1: Is Washington? By the way, if we'll say this, if

699
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy, but the Ravens defense is so suspect

700
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: they may I mean, Baltimore is going to keep you

701
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: in games because they can't stop the run and they're

702
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: week on the back end. That's why I said we

703
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: played panic or patience, Like if you have a great

704
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: quarterback like Lamar and Josh Allen, the only way to

705
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: beat them, if you think, is to keep the quarterback

706
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. And so Buffalo's run defense and the

707
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: Raven's entire defense is trouble. That's why last year Burrow

708
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: was statistically arguably the best quarterback in the league, couldn't

709
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: make the playoffs because he was sitting watching games. And

710
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: so to me, like if like on the Rams, let's

711
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: get get the bear schedule out of there, I'm the Rams.

712
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: I have Matt Stafford. This is arguably I think Stafford's

713
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna play this year. They're going to draft a quarterback

714
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Speaker 1: sit in behind Stafford for a year. So I got

715
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford for probably two years. Who gets banged up.

716
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm going all in because there's a likelihood that even

717
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: if I draft a quarterback that works, he'd be two

718
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: to three years before he's Matt Stafford pre snap. So

719
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: my take is now now with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen,

720
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: I have a much longer timeline. But my thing is

721
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: when the only way to beat the Buffaloes in the

722
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Speaker 1: Baltimorees now, Kansas City is interesting. This is where the

723
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Speaker 1: Chiefs have a lot going for. Kansas City's defense is great,

724
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: so when they get Rice and Worthy back, their time

725
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: of possession will improve some. They won't be as bad

726
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: on third down. They're not going to be a great

727
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: running team this year. They're not going to be. So

728
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: my take on Kansas City is They're defense will keep

729
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: giving Mahomes chances and if Rice and Worthy and Travis

730
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Kelcey in big games, that's enough to win playoff games. Okay,

731
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: so let me ask you the Chargers and Herbert Now

732
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: are scary because their defense is unbelievable, and that's going

733
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: to give Herbert two to three more possessions longer drives.

734
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: Hampton now is coming into his alma as a running back.

735
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: So the Chargers are interesting. If you don't love an offense,

736
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: what's the defense look like? If you love an offense, Baltimore.

737
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: Nothing kills a great baseball team like a bad bullpen.

738
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: Baltimore's defense. You can't win a Super Bowl with that defense.

739
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: So let me ask you regarding the Bears. If you're

740
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: inside the front office, polls and everybody, you're huddling around

741
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: the table, guys, Coward says, we're going eight to nine.

742
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: Okay, we know our internal we know what we've got here.

743
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: We're not making the playoffs this year.

744
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: In the NFC, Itt.

745
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: Stacked DJ Moore, Roma Dunze is emerging. Luther Burden played

746
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: well against Dallas. Why don't we just move off DJ

747
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 3: Moore to a team that, like you said, is panicky

748
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: and needs a receiver.

749
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: I think let's try to get that's the move. They've

750
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: got two good tight ends, a capable running back, O

751
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: line commitment. DJ Moore feels invisible, and Roma Dunze, come

752
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: at Colston, Lovelin Burden and they've got another backup receiver.

753
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: That's okay. My take is I would move I would

754
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: consider moving DJ Moore. First of all, you got him

755
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: on a steal. Remember that. Remember the deal, eight guys,

756
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: it's Ryan Pole's best move. I would now consider moving

757
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: him because he also is a veteran player around a

758
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 1: lot of young guys, and I think DJ Moore looks

759
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: around the league and think, why am I not as

760
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: productive as some of these guys. I'm way more town.

761
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: Not that he'd be a bad locker room guy, but

762
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: I think DJ Moore wears his emotion sometimes in his

763
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: body language.

764
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: And he's a veteran quality.

765
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: A very good plot take.

766
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: If I'm the New York Giants and Dable and I see, shucks, man,

767
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm starting a rookie quarterback and some of the numbers

768
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: for rookie quarterbacks starting in the first year not great.

769
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: Gee, I'm on the chopping block.

770
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: You know, Let's bring in d Moore. Let's just invigorate

771
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: the office. We got neighbors, we got more uh, we

772
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: got cam scataboo. Let's just let's go all in. Do

773
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: you think the Giants are a team that would go

774
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: after more. Do you think you're just saying and we're done.

775
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: No, they need they they're still in rebuild. They need

776
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: draft picks. I mean they're left tack.

777
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 4: Where is it good? What good is a draft pick

778
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 4: for Brian Dable? He ain't gonna be there next.

779
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: Well, I think if you made that kind of move,

780
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: you'd probably have to go upstairs and get approval. I

781
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: DJ Moore, give.

782
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: Me a team.

783
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna say to Denver Broncos, Babe bo Nix

784
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: is on the struggle bus. Let's get him a possession

785
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: receiver to go opposite Courtland Sutton.

786
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: No, they got No, they have Mims and Franklin are

787
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: both Seattle.

788
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I don't know that they do it,

789
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: but jsn and then there's a huge drop off, huge

790
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: a wide receive.

791
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: They like that kid out of Colorado State, the fifth

792
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: round pick, the rookie. He said, no, they like him.

793
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: I let me, I'll throw one at you, Kansas City.

794
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they got Rice coming back.

795
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna but you can't depend on Rice. Well,

796
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: we're the issues Worthy and Rice. I don't want, I

797
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: would say, Dj Moore, I think DJ Moore to Kansas

798
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: City is interesting. And by the way, you're making a trade,

799
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: the Bears can get DJ Moore to the other conference. Yeah, okay,

800
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: And then I think DJ Moore, I think with Tyreek,

801
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: you've always got you know, you've always got stuff. DJ

802
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 1: Moore is kind of a quiet guy.

803
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: Let me give you Buffalo Bills.

804
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: There is not I mean, Kean Tolman has shown a

805
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: little bit.

806
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 4: Shakier's more of a slot guy. I've not like the

807
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: two tight ends.

808
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: But why not.

809
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: I think again, if you've got an old quarterback like

810
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or Matt Stafford and you think you could

811
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: be a playoff team, make a move. Or if you

812
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: have a great quarterback and you're like, yeah, our defense

813
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: has a hole. I mean, Buffalo, you're only going to

814
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: get about four more years of Josh Allen at this level,

815
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: like like absolutely devastatingly in his prime. Kansas City's down offensively,

816
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: Baltimore's defense stinks. If I'm Buffalo, I look at the

817
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: Ravens defense and the Chiefs offense and say, this is

818
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: the year. I'm not giving this year up. I'm going

819
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: making a move. Ravens. Devens will never be this bad again,

820
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs offense won't stink like this