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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Unexplained Extra with me Richard McClane Smith, where

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<v Speaker 1>for the weeks in between episodes, we look at stories

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<v Speaker 1>and ideas that, for one reason or other, didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it into the previous show. The last week's episode, The Wandering,

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<v Speaker 1>focused on the peculiar story of forestry worker Robert Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>who in nineteen seventy nine claimed to have been attacked

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<v Speaker 1>by a mysterious machine while out walking through decmant woods

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<v Speaker 1>just outside Livingstone in Scotland. For many, Taylor's story is

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<v Speaker 1>compelling because it's simply unfathomable that such a modest and

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<v Speaker 1>taciturn man would go to the trouble of making such

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<v Speaker 1>a bizarre story up. Certainly, most people connected with the case,

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<v Speaker 1>from the police to Taylor's colleagues and family, found Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>to be very sincere in what he believed had happened

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<v Speaker 1>to him, concluding that a hallucination brought on by a

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<v Speaker 1>medical condition was the most likely explanation. Much of the

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<v Speaker 1>belief in Taylor's integrity is due to his status as

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran of the Second World War, during which he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the first people to witness the horrors

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bergen Belsen concentration camp after it had been liberated.

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<v Speaker 1>Making a very brief appearance in the episode was Heinrich Himmler, who,

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<v Speaker 1>as Breich's fuer of the Shut Staffel or SS, the

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<v Speaker 1>paramilitary organization of the German Reich, was ultimately responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>running the camp. Himmler has long been a source of

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<v Speaker 1>fascination for historians, sociologists, and psychologists alike as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the leading members of the National Socialist German Workers Party

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<v Speaker 1>commonly referred to as the Nazi Party. This fascination stems

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<v Speaker 1>mostly from the not unreasonable perception of Himmler as a

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<v Speaker 1>distinctly callous, depraved, and brutal individual. It was Himmler, after all, who,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty one made the agreement with Adolf Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>that they should annihilate all Jews and just for those

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<v Speaker 1>who are unsure of the history. Then very much proceeded

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<v Speaker 1>to put that agreement into practice. This reputation was compounded

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<v Speaker 1>by his position as head of the SS, whose members

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<v Speaker 1>were among the most fervent supporters of Hitler's ideas and policies.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is another reason that many are fascinated with himla,

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<v Speaker 1>namely his and the Nazi Party in general's association with

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<v Speaker 1>the occult. It is an association that, in ways, along

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<v Speaker 1>with what people often think of when they hear the

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<v Speaker 1>term Nazi, has clouded one of the fundamental truths about

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<v Speaker 1>Himla and the Nazi regime. A lot has been made

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<v Speaker 1>about the National Socialists association with the occult, with many

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<v Speaker 1>fantastical rumors springing up in the wake of their defeat

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<v Speaker 1>in the Second World War. Some have claimed that Adolf

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler and his party derived their power from the Spear

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<v Speaker 1>of Destiny, a legendary Christian relic said to have pierced

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<v Speaker 1>the side of Jesus Christ. According to legend, whoever possessed

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<v Speaker 1>the spear held the destiny of the world in their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Others are claimed that Hitler in fact got his power

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<v Speaker 1>from real, a mythical substance created by a race of

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<v Speaker 1>subterranean people that were said to have magical healing properties.

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<v Speaker 1>Some believe that Hitler was simply possessed by a demon.

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<v Speaker 1>Though these rumors may be a little far fetched, there

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<v Speaker 1>is some truth to the occult connection, namely through the

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<v Speaker 1>National Socialist Party's association with the Tuley Society and a

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<v Speaker 1>number of other secret societies that explored extreme belief system

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with the wider Vulkish movement, an ethno nationalist

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<v Speaker 1>movement of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century that

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<v Speaker 1>sought to define true Germans as something racially pure and

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<v Speaker 1>distinct from others. The Order of the New Templars or

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<v Speaker 1>o NT was one such organization, founded in nineteen oh

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<v Speaker 1>seven by Lance von Liebenfel. The ONT were the first

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<v Speaker 1>to adopt the use of a swastika as a symbol

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<v Speaker 1>of white supremacy, with its teachings based on an ideological

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<v Speaker 1>system known broadly as ariosophy, which was developed by Liebenfel

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<v Speaker 1>and another occultist named Guido von Liszt. The belief system

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<v Speaker 1>was based largely around the concept of an aryan race

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<v Speaker 1>comprised of only white people, who they considered to be

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<v Speaker 1>not only biologically distinct from all others, but also magically

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<v Speaker 1>superior to any other race on earth. Any of Leibenfels

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<v Speaker 1>and Lists ideas were later incorporated into the TULI Society,

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<v Speaker 1>members of which would go on to establish the German

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<v Speaker 1>Workers Party, that in turn would be reorganized by Adolf

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler in nineteen thirty three into the National Socialist German

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<v Speaker 1>Workers Party. Above all of them, However, there was one

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<v Speaker 1>racist that would prove especially influential. Carl Maria Villegut was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Austria in eighteen sixty six. At seventeen, he

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<v Speaker 1>was conscripted into the Austria Hungry Army, from where he

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<v Speaker 1>began a lengthy and fairly distinguished career as a soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was for his bizarre belief that he would

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<v Speaker 1>really make his mark. At some point, Villegut became convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that he was not only descended from an ancient line

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<v Speaker 1>of wise Germanic kings, but that as a clairvoyant, he

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<v Speaker 1>had the power to access their ancient ancestral memories. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineteen, he was encouraged by Lands von Lebenfeld of

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<v Speaker 1>the O n T to share his beliefs, and Villegud

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<v Speaker 1>did not disappoint him. According to Villegut, the true history

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<v Speaker 1>of Germany began in two hundred twenty eight thousand b

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<v Speaker 1>c e. In a time where there were three sons

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky and giants, dwarfs and other mythical creatures

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<v Speaker 1>roaming the land. Villegut's own blood line supposedly began in

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight thousand b c e. And was instrumental in

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<v Speaker 1>the formation of an apparent ancient religion which betrayed the

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<v Speaker 1>true people of Germany, as he saw them as a

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<v Speaker 1>superior race of beings whose ultimate destiny was to become

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<v Speaker 1>the dominant race on earth, and Villegut, as a direct

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<v Speaker 1>descendant of the ancient kings of this race of people,

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<v Speaker 1>was the perfect man to get them there. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>next few years, as Villegate's delusions intensive fight, he became

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly erratic and violent toward his wife, Malvine. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, she succeeded in having him committed to a

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatric asylum, where he was diagnosed with possible schizophrenia and

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<v Speaker 1>declared insane. Throughout his four years stint in hospital, however,

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<v Speaker 1>Villigerate continued to correspond with his newfound supporters in the

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<v Speaker 1>o NT and by the time of his release in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty seven, had developed a reputation as a bona

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<v Speaker 1>fide mystical Germanic sage. In nineteen thirty three, after leaving

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and moving to Munich, shortly after Adolf Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>and his National Socialists secured complete control of the German Reich,

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<v Speaker 1>happier life today. Instantly impressed by Villigate's apparent knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Germanic traditions and religions, Himmler appointed him under the

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<v Speaker 1>name Carl Maria Weisshall as the head of the Department

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<v Speaker 1>for pre and Early History, based in the Race and

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<v Speaker 1>Settlement Main Office, a department whose sole function was to

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<v Speaker 1>vet members of the SS to make sure they were,

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<v Speaker 1>as they saw it, sufficiently racially pure. Himmler regularly sought

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<v Speaker 1>Villigate's advice in a variety of matters, even helping to

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<v Speaker 1>pick out Favelsburg Castle in the northeast of what was

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<v Speaker 1>then the province of Westphalia as the ideal location for

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<v Speaker 1>the SSS countryside headquarters. According to Nicholas Gudric Clark in

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<v Speaker 1>his nineteen eighty five book The Occult Roots of Nazism,

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<v Speaker 1>Villigerate had foreseen that the castle would become a magical

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<v Speaker 1>German stronghold in the future conflict between Europe and Asia.

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<v Speaker 1>Villigerate encouraged others in the SS to adopt his so

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<v Speaker 1>called erminist faith and officiated at pagan wedding ceremonies for

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<v Speaker 1>numerous SS officers, and was also entrusted with designing the

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<v Speaker 1>SS totten cop Frink or Death's head ring that was

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<v Speaker 1>bestowed on members of the SS by Heinrich Himmler himself. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that is more or less where Villigerates, and perhaps any

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful association between the Occult and the National Socialists ends.

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<v Speaker 1>After the truth of Villigerate's psychological diagnosis came to light

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty eight. The following year, Himmler had him

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<v Speaker 1>quietly retired from the SS to avoid any embarrassment, though

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<v Speaker 1>its influence is to be found elsewhere, most prominently in

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<v Speaker 1>the party's iconography, such as their use of the ostika

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<v Speaker 1>and the SS logo itself, which was taken from a

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<v Speaker 1>runic symbol created by Guido von Liszt, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>in a series of alleged parapsychological experiments conducted on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of the German military, which I may explore another time. Broadly,

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<v Speaker 1>its hold over the party was minimal and largely superficial.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in nineteen forty one, Hitler ordered his staff

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up this astrology rubbish, as he put it,

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<v Speaker 1>after his deputy Rudolph Hess, a known advocate of astrology

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<v Speaker 1>and the occult, flew to Scotland in an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>single handedly broker of peace with Great Britain. As a result,

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler had his head of propaganda, Joseph Gebel's, pass a

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<v Speaker 1>law known as Action Hess, banning any occult organizations from

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<v Speaker 1>giving public performances, in an effort to crack down on

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<v Speaker 1>their influence. There is little doubt that those like Heinrich

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<v Speaker 1>Himmler and Adolf Hitler believed in their racial superiority. As

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<v Speaker 1>for whether they genuinely believed it had been magically bestowed

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<v Speaker 1>upon them is another question. Perhaps more likely, all the

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<v Speaker 1>stories of destiny and racial purity were merely the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>metaphors with which to embolden their supporters in their efforts

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<v Speaker 1>to remodel the world and their image. Either way, it

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<v Speaker 1>is easy to see why the apparent link with Hitler's

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<v Speaker 1>Germany and the occult is so compelling. As Peter Staudenmeyer

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in a twenty seventeen article for Aon magazine, a

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<v Speaker 1>fixation on diabolical forces can distract attention from the social

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<v Speaker 1>forces that shape reality. Attributing the horrors of Nazi Germany

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<v Speaker 1>to obscure occult sources is all too often a convenient

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<v Speaker 1>way of absolving ourselves from the hard work of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the past. In a similar vein, I personally prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid using the term Nazi when applied to the era

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<v Speaker 1>of the National Socialist German Workers Party. The term Nazi

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<v Speaker 1>was never actually used by the National Socialists to refer

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves, but was in fact coined as a pejorative

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<v Speaker 1>term by opponents of the party as a play on

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase national Socialist and the abbreviation of the name

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<v Speaker 1>Ignatius that was often used colloquially to mean a foolish

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<v Speaker 1>or clumsy person. Just for clarity, I have absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>problem with coining a pejorative term to use for the

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<v Speaker 1>party and its affiliates. However, I prefer not to use

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<v Speaker 1>it in this context, simply because I believe it detracts

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<v Speaker 1>from one harsh and fundamental truth. The term Nazi, when

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<v Speaker 1>applied to people such as Heinrich Himmler and Adolf Hitler,

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<v Speaker 1>is often done in a way that positions them as

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<v Speaker 1>something of such monsters unfathomable evil. They become almost something

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<v Speaker 1>other than human, something that is all too easily dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>as a momentary aberration in the history of humankind. In effect,

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<v Speaker 1>to use the term Nazi in this context runs the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of forgetting these people and their supporters were very

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<v Speaker 1>much human beings. This is complicated further when applied to

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<v Speaker 1>people and regimes in the present day. There are, of

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<v Speaker 1>course those who will proudly declare themselves naziats. However, for

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<v Speaker 1>those who would be appalled at the idea of being

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<v Speaker 1>associated with the label, even if they found themselves supporting

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<v Speaker 1>people and policies that might not seem out of place

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<v Speaker 1>and Hitler's Germany, I believe they might struggle to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>the severity of what they were doing, for the simple

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<v Speaker 1>reason that because we have learned to understand the Nazis

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