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Speaker 1: Welcome to Unexplained Extra with me Richard McClane Smith, where

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Speaker 1: for the weeks in between episodes, we look at stories

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Speaker 1: and ideas that, for one reason or other, didn't make

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Speaker 1: it into the previous show. The last week's episode, The Wandering,

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Speaker 1: focused on the peculiar story of forestry worker Robert Taylor,

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Speaker 1: who in nineteen seventy nine claimed to have been attacked

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Speaker 1: by a mysterious machine while out walking through decmant woods

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Speaker 1: just outside Livingstone in Scotland. For many, Taylor's story is

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Speaker 1: compelling because it's simply unfathomable that such a modest and

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Speaker 1: taciturn man would go to the trouble of making such

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Speaker 1: a bizarre story up. Certainly, most people connected with the case,

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Speaker 1: from the police to Taylor's colleagues and family, found Taylor

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Speaker 1: to be very sincere in what he believed had happened

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Speaker 1: to him, concluding that a hallucination brought on by a

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Speaker 1: medical condition was the most likely explanation. Much of the

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Speaker 1: belief in Taylor's integrity is due to his status as

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Speaker 1: a veteran of the Second World War, during which he

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Speaker 1: Making a very brief appearance in the episode was Heinrich Himmler, who,

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Speaker 1: as Breich's fuer of the Shut Staffel or SS, the

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Speaker 1: paramilitary organization of the German Reich, was ultimately responsible for

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Speaker 1: fascination for historians, sociologists, and psychologists alike as one of

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Speaker 1: mostly from the not unreasonable perception of Himmler as a

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Speaker 1: distinctly callous, depraved, and brutal individual. It was Himmler, after all, who,

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Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one made the agreement with Adolf Hitler

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Speaker 1: to put that agreement into practice. This reputation was compounded

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Speaker 1: But there is another reason that many are fascinated with himla,

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Speaker 1: namely his and the Nazi Party in general's association with

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Speaker 1: with what people often think of when they hear the

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Speaker 1: about the National Socialists association with the occult, with many

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Speaker 1: fantastical rumors springing up in the wake of their defeat

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Speaker 1: in the Second World War. Some have claimed that Adolf

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Speaker 1: Hitler and his party derived their power from the Spear

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Speaker 1: of Destiny, a legendary Christian relic said to have pierced

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Speaker 1: the spear held the destiny of the world in their hands.

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Speaker 1: Others are claimed that Hitler in fact got his power

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Speaker 1: from real, a mythical substance created by a race of

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Speaker 1: subterranean people that were said to have magical healing properties.

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Speaker 1: Some believe that Hitler was simply possessed by a demon.

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Speaker 1: Though these rumors may be a little far fetched, there

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Speaker 1: National Socialist Party's association with the Tuley Society and a

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Speaker 1: number of other secret societies that explored extreme belief system

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Speaker 1: in conjunction with the wider Vulkish movement, an ethno nationalist

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Speaker 1: movement of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century that

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Speaker 1: sought to define true Germans as something racially pure and

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Speaker 1: Workers Party, that in turn would be reorganized by Adolf

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Speaker 1: Hitler in nineteen thirty three into the National Socialist German

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Speaker 1: racist that would prove especially influential. Carl Maria Villegut was

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Speaker 1: fide mystical Germanic sage. In nineteen thirty three, after leaving

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Speaker 1: happier life today. Instantly impressed by Villigate's apparent knowledge of

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Speaker 1: ancient Germanic traditions and religions, Himmler appointed him under the

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Speaker 1: name Carl Maria Weisshall as the head of the Department

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Speaker 1: for pre and Early History, based in the Race and

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Speaker 1: as they saw it, sufficiently racially pure. Himmler regularly sought

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Speaker 1: Villigate's advice in a variety of matters, even helping to

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Speaker 1: his nineteen eighty five book The Occult Roots of Nazism,

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Speaker 1: SS totten cop Frink or Death's head ring that was

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Speaker 1: bestowed on members of the SS by Heinrich Himmler himself. However,

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Speaker 1: In fact, in nineteen forty one, Hitler ordered his staff

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Speaker 1: after his deputy Rudolph Hess, a known advocate of astrology

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Speaker 1: single handedly broker of peace with Great Britain. As a result,

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Speaker 1: Hitler had his head of propaganda, Joseph Gebel's, pass a

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Speaker 1: law known as Action Hess, banning any occult organizations from

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Speaker 1: metaphors with which to embolden their supporters in their efforts

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Speaker 1: is easy to see why the apparent link with Hitler's

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