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Speaker 1: Welcome. I'm off with Territory. Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: You might be thinking, here, Robbie, where the heck are

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Speaker 2: you right now?

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Speaker 1: You're not in the studio. Where are you at?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm down south in Florida right now. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be getting some spring training action in over the

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Speaker 2: next couple of days, and I can't do it without

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Speaker 2: the great Jim Riley of ball Cap Sports.

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Speaker 1: You might be wondering, who is Jim Riley? This is

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Speaker 1: Red Sox Nation. Who is this? Well, if you need

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Speaker 1: an expert on the Blue Jays, we got it right here. Jim.

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Welcome to the.

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Speaker 3: Show, good man, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I feel like my debut on Monster Territory is well overdue.

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Speaker 4: You've been doing this for over a year now. We've

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Speaker 4: known each other much longer than that. I'm glad to

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Speaker 4: finally make an appearance to balance out all of the

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Speaker 4: Red Sox chatter.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, you know I have friends that

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Speaker 2: are Yankee fans. You know, I actually have a couple

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Speaker 2: of Orioles fans. And you know, I always thought the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox Blue Jays relationship would always be too spicy

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Speaker 2: to handle, But I feel like it's actually been pretty

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Speaker 2: tame over the years.

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Speaker 1: What would you say that as well? Between Red Sox

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Speaker 4: I think it's because we're all trying to take out

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Speaker 4: the Yankees, Like we all have a common enemy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that is over there in the Bronx. So

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: Because we have that to focus on, we maybe don't

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Speaker 2: I agree, But you know what, in the Red Sox

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Speaker 2: and Blue Jays, every year, it's always the scrappiest games.

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Speaker 2: It's always tight, it's always you know, people arguing with

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Speaker 2: each other on Twitter land about umpire calls.

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Speaker 1: Because they're always so close.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you might be asking, well, why you know Jim,

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Speaker 2: you know expert on the Blue Jays. Why is he

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Speaker 2: here on the show today. Well, we're gonna be previewing

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Speaker 2: the American League East here. We're gonna run through each team.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna give our thoughts on each team. Before I

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Speaker 2: get started, though, please go follow Jim over sixty thousand

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Speaker 2: subscribers on YouTube. He's been doing this just as long

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Speaker 2: as me, so please go subscribe over to him. Let's

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Speaker 1: It really helps us out. So let's get to it here, Jim.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know what, since you are the guest

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Speaker 2: for today, I think we've got to start off with

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, right, the defending American League champion Toronto

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, before we.

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Speaker 2: Actually dive in, give me your quick thoughts on everything

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Speaker 2: from last year. You know, what was it like kind

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Speaker 2: of experiencing just this whole run, all the high moments

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Speaker 2: There was a one point Lad was going to be

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Speaker 2: We were, I mean, we were all planning on it,

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately it didn't happen. And then on the Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays went on the great run last year. What has

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Speaker 3: I remember at one point point, at one point it

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Speaker 4: To be Vlattie and Rafe in that lineup, and now

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Speaker 4: So it's it's a great surprise. And as they're going

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Speaker 4: I mean that's great. I didn't expect this. Moving on,

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Speaker 4: then then you have the Alcs against the Mariners again

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Speaker 4: and you go toe to toe with Goliath, and you

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't happen. I will say that the Game seven,

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Speaker 4: I will never forget that day, Like the whole day

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Speaker 4: leading up to Game seven against the Dodgers, knowing Otani

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Speaker 3: And it was it was just.

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Speaker 4: Such a emotional, emotionally draining day leading up even before

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Speaker 3: The game itself was intense. It was. It was a

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Speaker 4: The only problem is there's just a bad taste that

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Speaker 4: like my my family members, have like giving given me

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Speaker 4: like Blue Jay's memorabilia from last year, like AL champions

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want that. Like they were they were.

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Speaker 1: Two outs, two outs.

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Speaker 5: that was the problem. So that's where I mean, I

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Speaker 5: come into this season and I and I'm I got

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Speaker 5: to think a lot of the Blue Jays players come

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Speaker 5: too hard and it almost becomes a distraction. It's it's

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Speaker 5: it's something you're trying to get back to so intensely

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Speaker 5: that you have a difficult time. Acts you put too

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Speaker 1: I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: You know us Red Sox fans, We know the name

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Speaker 2: Aaron Boone very well.

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Speaker 1: Now you know the name Miguel Rojas.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, we got a taste of our own medicine

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Speaker 4: because back in ninety three, we had Joe Carter hit

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Speaker 4: now we know what it feels like.

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Speaker 3: It's not good. You know.

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Speaker 1: I will say the World Series was very exciting. That

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Speaker 2: You know, if we're looking at this Blue Jays team,

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Speaker 2: that is Boba Schett. Bobaschett obviously had a great bounce

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Speaker 2: the combination of those two can You know, maybe i'd

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Speaker 1: This team defensively, I think is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: You got guys that can do some other things in

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Speaker 4: I'm confident that they will be able to replace his production.

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Speaker 3: Had played out differently.

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Speaker 4: through all that drama, not one word about the Toronto

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Speaker 4: Blue Jays. I'm not expecting Ernie Clement to play throughout

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Speaker 3: I still think he can be.

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Speaker 4: A plus war, a non plus war but plus WRC

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Speaker 3: A major impact. I think he will be a solid contributor.

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Speaker 4: And with those three pieces, kaz Barger and Ernie's development,

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Speaker 4: some right, because I'm talking about three guys in that

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Speaker 3: That was Bo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you look at the numbers, you know,

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Speaker 4: He's gonna come down. There's no way we could expect

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean last year, these numbers are so good.

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Speaker 2: Nine fifty nine oh ps one six six WRC plays.

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Speaker 3: Best year he's had as a Blue Jay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it had been a few years since

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Speaker 2: he put up numbers like that, so let's even keep that. Obviously, Vlad,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be Vlad. You know, I still like this lineup.

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Speaker 2: was first in strikeout Super nine last year. He gets

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Speaker 2: up a little bit last year, you know, but would cease.

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Speaker 2: You know, the contract was definitely pricey, seven years, two

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Speaker 2: where are you at?

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Speaker 1: Would cease joining this rotation?

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Speaker 4: So I chuckle because when they announced the signing, I

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Speaker 3: And that that's true to form.

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Speaker 4: I've never been a Dylancy's guy and that wasn't going

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Speaker 3: Now, since that time.

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Speaker 4: There has been reports where Dylan Cease was excited about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the I think I think the American League East

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be right in there.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the Rays right now?

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that.

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Speaker 4: They get to go back to their ballpark.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you know, I'm glad they get back to a

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Speaker 4: But I think if I had to pick a team

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Speaker 4: And yeah, we're we're excited to see McClanahan back. Rasmussen

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Speaker 4: Don't think there's enough to make this team, to put

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Speaker 3: The spot for a wild card. There again, they're my

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Speaker 2: You know, McClanahan, you know, what is he going to

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I fully see it, but it

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Speaker 2: How about the Baltimore Orioles. What a heck of an

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Speaker 1: My goodness. They added talent all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Let's just pretend that he did not go.

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Speaker 4: Is too much recency bias. They won seventy five games

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Speaker 3: So what did they do. They go and get Pete

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Speaker 4: or second in slugging with the group.

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Speaker 3: That they've put together. The pitching is I think what

443
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: we're all going to watch.

444
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 4: They didn't go out and get Rangers Suarez or Framber

445
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 4: Valdez or Zach Gallon or Dillancy's or trade for any

446
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 4: of the big names. They traded for Shane Boz, which

447
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 4: is fine, but he's not somebody that I would put

448
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 4: as an sp one universally, right, Like, he's kind of

449
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 4: a middle of the rotation guy.

450
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: That'll be interesting.

451
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: They are obviously betting on Rogers and Bradish that those

452
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: two are the dudes that that fan base believes they are,

453
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 4: and they're going to prove it now right.

454
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: Bradish is coming back from injury.

455
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: Rogers looked really good last year, but it was a

456
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 4: mess for a couple of years. If those two have

457
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 4: it with the rest of that group, sure they can hang.

458
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be and I do think they will hang.

459
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 4: I think the Orioles will be in the mix.

460
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 3: I think this whole top for the top four teams

461
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: will be within of just a couple.

462
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Speaker 4: Of games of each other heading into the final week

463
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 4: of the season. It's it's gonna be a gaullt It's

464
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 4: it's gonna be close, and it's it's gonna be really intense,

465
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: and the Orioles will be there.

466
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: Question will be do they pony.

467
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 4: Up and make the trade at the trade deadline that

468
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: they need to make, because I mean, think about guys

469
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: that were not traded this offseason, right, Joe Ryan was

470
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: not traded, Sandy al Contra was not traded. Those could

471
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 4: be names that the Orioles were linked to this offseason.

472
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: Maybe that trade actually happens in July and pushes the

473
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Speaker 4: Orioles over the top.

474
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Speaker 3: That's the kind of move I think they're gonna need

475
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Speaker 3: to make.

476
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Speaker 2: I think that's a really big factor when it comes

477
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: to any kind of season predictions. Yeah, it's completely impossible

478
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: to predict because that's also something to factor as well,

479
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: is the trade deadline, because what kind of moves and

480
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: our team set up to make moves at that point,

481
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: you know, And I think the Oriols definitely should be

482
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: a big buyer at the deadline when we get there.

483
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: But if you're looking at the team as is what

484
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: I really like about Alonso and Ward in this lineup.

485
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: It takes so much pressure off of all these other guys.

486
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: Like you said, Henderson was dealing with injuries last year,

487
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: but you know, let's say even if he was healthy,

488
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: putting Alonzo behind him is bonkers. So the fact that

489
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: he has that protection behind him, and it's insane. And sure,

490
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: you know Taylor Ward, you know, maybe he's not going

491
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: to give you the best batting average, but he's going

492
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: to give you a good amount of power.

493
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson thirty plus, Yeah, you know.

494
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: And they have some injuries right now with Jordan Westburg,

495
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: Jackson Holidays. You know, everyone's breaking bones lately and getting injuries.

496
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: But you know, when and when you get those guys

497
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: back in this lineup, and then Ward goes down in

498
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: this lineup, there's even more protection. And then Dylan Beavers

499
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: is coming off. I think a really underrated rookie. You know,

500
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: small sample last year he looked Colton Kowser's Colton cows

501
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: and they got Samuel Bissio. He was projected about ninth

502
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: at one point. It's a really good lineup. And it

503
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: saddens me because Pete Alonzo was supposed to be in

504
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: a Red Sox uniform.

505
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: I thought it was.

506
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: Gonna happen, and my my hopes and dreams were dashed.

507
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: But I agree also Tyler O'Neill, Tyler O'Neal, I mean,

508
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: I think he's he's a bit of an X factor

509
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: here too. Maaguely if he's healthy and productive, yep, you

510
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: know who knows. But I'm with you when it comes

511
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: to the pitching injury wise, you know what is You know,

512
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Trevor Rodgers had some issues a couple of years ago, right,

513
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: he was dealing with some stuff. Kyle Bradish obviously Bozz

514
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: he dealt with stuff. Eflyn had a bad back. So

515
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: I do wonder about the health of the rotation and

516
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: how much upside there is. I think it comes down

517
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: to all these guys gonna be healthy. But yeah, they

518
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: could definitely make a move. I really like the bul

519
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: then honestly, you know, Hellsily, let's sell it back to

520
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: what he was doing. I definitely think this team's gonna

521
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: be right there in the mix, whether that's for the

522
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: Ale East or one of the wild card spots.

523
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: I think it is going to come down to the pitching.

524
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: I agree.

525
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've started to look at teams almost setting

526
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: themselves up for when they get to the trade deadline.

527
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 4: How much do they foresee needing. Blue Jays set themselves

528
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: up to where they if there's an area where they

529
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: need will need something it be Bullpen Orioles. If there's

530
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: an area where they potentially need something starting rotation, being

531
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: close enough to where that July trade deadline or August

532
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 4: third this year deadline. You don't need to give up

533
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: the farm. You're ninety percent of the way there right now,

534
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: and maybe that other ten percent develops internally and you're

535
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: good to go. You have guys that develop step up,

536
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: and if you don't, you just need one.

537
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: Piece when it gets to when it gets to July.

538
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the deadline, there was one team last

539
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: year that made a couple moves of the deadline and

540
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: they're actually going to be big pieces for their bullpen,

541
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: and that is the New York Yankees. Listen, I'm not

542
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: trying to be not trying to be that Red Sox

543
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: fan here, but I am always down the middle. I

544
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: think they had a pretty bad offseason. I know they

545
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: brought I think Yankee fans would agree with you that.

546
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: They had a bad offseason.

547
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Listen.

548
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: I like they brought back Bellinger. I think it was

549
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: a great fit. He fit great last year. You put

550
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: up great numbers of them last year. It's like a

551
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: glove Yankee stadium. But man, don't they really You just

552
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: saw the Yankees in the postseason last year, you went

553
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: through it with them, right, and you handled them with

554
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: these I don't see much of a different team minus

555
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: a returning Garrett Cole.

556
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: That's at some point that's it.

557
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: But no matter how good you are, how many times

558
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: if we see in the past where a guy misses

559
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: a lot of time, comes back and has some rust

560
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: and it takes a little bit for him to get gone,

561
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: you know. And they did do the heavy lifting I

562
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: think for the bullpen at the deadline last year with

563
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: Bednar and Camille duvald. They also brought in Franando Cruz

564
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: last offseason Bird too.

565
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: Ye, so you know, you feel like they maybe could

566
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: have done something else. I don't know.

567
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: It's weird with the Yankees team because they're very good,

568
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: but they feel very similar to the team that we

569
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: just saw in the postseason.

570
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: What say you, no? I agree?

571
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 3: I think this is all about Garrett Cole. That that's

572
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: that's really the.

573
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: Difference between this year's team and last year's team. But

574
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: we just don't know when Garrett Cole is really back,

575
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: like he'll be he'll be on the field pitching, you know,

576
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: early in the season.

577
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: I know he's not gonna be ready to go right away.

578
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: But he'll be back. But when is he really back?

579
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: And that's that's the thing. Now here's the thing. He

580
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: may not be really back until September.

581
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: And that's all they care about because this is still

582
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: a team pois to make the playoffs.

583
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: This is still a team that has poison to win

584
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 4: the division. Even with everything they've done. They won ninety

585
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: four games last year with this team, and they went

586
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: through some struggle points last year that if they had

587
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 4: cleaned up, maybe they win one hundred games. But this

588
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: is still a dangerous team. It's funny you talk about

589
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: the moves. If they didn't bring Bellinger back, I think

590
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: Yankee fans would have looked at this offseason as a

591
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: complete disaster if they didn't get him back.

592
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: I don't know this.

593
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: It seems like Cashman and Steinbrenner and the rest of

594
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: that front office just relying on Garrett Coles, our guy,

595
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: Garrett Coles, the difference maker. He's the difference between ninety

596
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: four wins last year and one hundred wins this year,

597
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: and one hundred wins would win the division. I don't

598
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: see it getting to that point for the yes, but

599
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: that's that's the only thing that I could justify them

600
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: just hanging back.

601
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Ryan Weathers that was.

602
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: The big addition, and I I would argue that most

603
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: Yankee fans probably don't view that as a big addition.

604
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: You know Pinstripe Territory Derek who runs that, he actually

605
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: loved the Ryan Weathers move. I do like them.

606
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: I like it is it is Ryan Weathers a splash?

607
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not.

608
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: It's more of like it's a good solid move, pills

609
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: and helps round out your off season, right, it's not

610
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: the big splash.

611
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: Here's my theory.

612
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this, are the Yankees possibly holding

613
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: off till next offseason? I know there's a lockout, everyone's

614
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: you know, doom and gloom over that. But are they

615
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: holding off for a certain trek schoobl.

616
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: You know the Yankees?

617
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: Are they gonna have the money to do it? What

618
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: wasn't this year? Like they didn't want to go over?

619
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: What was the number they didn't want to go over?

620
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: They had they had like a set budget number.

621
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: And everybody kind of like everybody scoffed at that, and

622
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: they're like, no, that that that's.

623
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: Not Probably maybe they're holding off for school maybe next

624
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: year they'll go they'll go over it.

625
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: They'll go over next year.

626
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: I mean, the Yankees will be in on school I

627
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: think it would be foolish to think otherwise. The Yankees

628
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: will be in on school ball, The Mets will be

629
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: in on school ball, the Blue Jays, the Dodgers, they'll

630
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: all be The Padres will probably find money to be

631
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: in on school They got another loan, yeah, exactly, So

632
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: I mean maybe they are they're they're they're saving some

633
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: money for that. They I mean they could also be

634
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: saving I mean Freddy Peralta is a free agent next

635
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: year too, so there's an opportunity for them to maybe

636
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: get their big picture next year because that Trent Grisham

637
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: money will be off the books.

638
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's Trent Grisham move. I think that backfired on them.

639
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: But you know, when you look at the lineup, obviously.

640
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is at the judge yep. You know again

641
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: this is not the Red Sox Buias. But listen, will Judge.

642
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: You always got to watch out for the injuries, right

643
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: who knows. I understand he was healthy last year. He

644
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: was good, but you've got to turn thirty four, you know,

645
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: what's the health gonna look like with him, I always

646
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: worry with some kind of a tweak or something with him.

647
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: I like Ben Rice, he's a Red Sox killer. Stanton

648
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: looked good last year.

649
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: Jazz.

650
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: I know he's just a lightning rod, but Jazz is Jazz.

651
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: He's fifty to fifty for Jazz. This year, we're gonna

652
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: get it. We're gonna get the fifties.

653
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: I mean, he's heading into a contract year. If he's

654
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: ever motivated to do it, now's the time.

655
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if he gets fifty to fifty. Holy

656
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't think.

657
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: That'll really screw up the free agent market because nobody

658
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: will believe he's that kind.

659
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: Of guy over the course of a contract. And he's

660
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: also you know, a little touch and go sometimes when

661
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: it comes to.

662
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Very curious free agency.

663
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: That's why hopefully this lockout doesn't affect too much, because

664
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: I really want to see what happens with him. But

665
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: we can agree the Yankee lineup is very good. There's

666
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: still a lot of good bats here. If they just

667
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: stay healthy, they're gonna be a p.

668
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: They're gonna hit with them, They're gonna hit with the best. Yea. Again,

669
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: there's they're a top three, top four s lugging team

670
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: in the.

671
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: Base and the rotation. Max Freed was so good last year.

672
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: Schlittler Red Sox fans just adore Cam Schlitzler. Goodness gracious,

673
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: but you know you still got him. Luis Heal will

674
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: warn good young arms there, Ryan Weathers, he just brought

675
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: in rodn he got I believe arthro'scopic surgery on the elbow,

676
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: but they shouldn't miss too much time. And then Garrett Cale,

677
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: so you have a lot of good starting pitching in

678
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: the fold that I think. I still think there will

679
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: be one of the best rotations.

680
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: And then the bullpen. I think if there is.

681
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: One tweak they can make with the picturing staff, maybe

682
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: something for the bullpen.

683
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: You know, I.

684
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: Wonder if you could see possibly, you know, one of

685
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: these guys like Elma Rodriguez Cruz or Carlos Lagrange come up.

686
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: At some point this year. They do.

687
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: I think they're fine on the pitching side. It's more

688
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: so my question is, yes, they're very good, but do

689
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: they have the upside to go get a World Series

690
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: When we just saw pretty much the same team could

691
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: not get past the Blue Jays.

692
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Where are you of that? No?

693
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: I think I think they could because the difference is

694
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: the Yankees didn't have a locked in Garrett Cole to

695
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: throw last year, and I think there can be, you know,

696
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: a a motivating factor where if the J's and the

697
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: Yankees meet in the playoffs again, the Yankees are.

698
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're going to be turned up to ten.

699
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: They they won't let the Blue Jays catch them by surprise,

700
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: and I think they will maybe have a little bit

701
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: of you know, uh, some getbacks that they're trying to

702
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: that they're trying to pull off. So I think that

703
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: you will see a Yankee team that is that is motivated,

704
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 4: and I mean that rotation those names that you just

705
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: rattled off, you get into September and those guys are

706
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: healthy and they're pitching well.

707
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: And you have Cole, Don freed, Heel Schlitler.

708
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a that's a tough group and if

709
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 4: you're going into these short series, that's a great that's

710
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: a great group of guys to throw out there.

711
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: The only thing I hold back on on Coal is

712
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: obviously it's Garrett Cole. He's had a great career. The

713
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: only thing I'm wondering about is just how.

714
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Is he going to look coming back because he's Oh, yeah,

715
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm saying.

716
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm not expecting him like September.

717
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm thinking he is Garrett Cole again in like September.

718
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: Like that. That's the hope.

719
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 4: Be good enough to be in the October picture, so

720
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 4: that when Garrett Cole is rounding back into form in

721
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: the second half of the season, you just unleash him

722
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 4: and he goes and he's he's firing on all cylinders.

723
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the rest of that group.

724
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw it with Sandy last year.

725
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 3: Yes, if he pitches like Sandy.

726
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sandy did look better in the second half, but

727
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: he was still up and down.

728
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, up and down.

729
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: That's where I kind of just wonder. I don't know,

730
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't That's the thing. I don't know what it's a.

731
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Very real it's a very reasonable question.

732
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 2: But that's where I also wonder if he's not right,

733
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: and if they do end up meeting someone in this

734
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: rotation they need an improvement. I think they could go

735
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: out there at the deadline.

736
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 4: They have the pieces to go out in trade for

737
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: starting pitching.

738
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: Definitely.

739
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, let's wrap this up here.

740
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: I believe we have talked about all the teams except

741
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: the Red Sox. We got to finish strong here, ladies

742
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, we got to the Red Sox. Took us

743
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: a little time, but let's get to Sorry Jim, but

744
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: the best part of the show here we.

745
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Got to talk about the Corse socks.

746
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: You know, thinking, I'm always down the middle, right, if

747
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: the Red Sox are doing something I don't like, I'm

748
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 2: gonna say. If they're doing something I like, I'm gonna

749
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: praise it. This past offseason, I did like their offseason.

750
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: I think it was very solid. I gave it a

751
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: B plus. It was just there was negatives.

752
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: That held it back.

753
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: Right Bragman obviously that that was a blunder. Didn't bring

754
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: didn't give him a no trade clause. You know, the

755
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: Cubs beat out for a little bit more money. I

756
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: thought he was just so perfect with the Red Sox.

757
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: Who was who knows.

758
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: Exactly what happened fully behind the scenes with that.

759
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: They you know, the Red Sox. They say, oh, if

760
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: he wanted to.

761
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: Be here, he could, he would be here, and Bregman's like,

762
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about it. I'm with the Cubs now,

763
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: so but you know, the Red Sox made their pivots

764
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: right for the lineup. You bring in Wilson Contreras, you

765
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: bring in Caleb Durbin here, and then obviously you're hoping

766
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: for some growth from guys like Roman Anthony Marcelo Meyer here,

767
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: a bit more consistency from will you or or Bray

768
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: You both performance wise, hopefully a little bit more power,

769
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: a bit more health as well. Jared Duran back in

770
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: third this year. Let's see how he was very good

771
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: there last year in that spot. Not great leading off,

772
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: but he was better third. Already looking pretty good. This

773
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: spring story was great last year with this lineup. How

774
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: how do you feel about this lineup on the outside

775
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: looking in? Do you feel like Bregman the loss of

776
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: Bregman is really going to hurt them, or do you

777
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: feel like they could make up for that loss with

778
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: what they have?

779
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: You know, I like the Red Sox lineup. I think

780
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: I like it more than most. And I know that

781
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: for a fact because I've I've published content and.

782
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: I'm getting I'm taking some heat for how much I

783
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: like the A the Red Sox offseason, I actually like

784
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: it better than you do.

785
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: I have it.

786
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: I have their off season as an a minus.

787
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: I was I said specifically, I said B plus one day,

788
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: maybe one other day I wake up another A minus.

789
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like kind of in that range what they

790
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: ended up doing.

791
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: I know the Bregman loss hurts, but Contreras and Durbin

792
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: are two nice pieces to add to that lineup, and

793
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: Gray and Suarez. I really like those two for what

794
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: you need them to be this year. Right, you didn't

795
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: grab Sonny Gray expecting him to be your sp one.

796
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: You have Garrett Crochet for that. So where the pieces

797
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: you got and how they fit in. I really like

798
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: what they did from that perspective. And then with this lineup,

799
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: I see guys that are I use the term ascending talent,

800
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 4: guys that are continuing to get better, young players that

801
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: are developing, and they've got that. With Roman Anthony, I

802
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: still consider will your Bray you one of those guys.

803
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: Jared Durant is still one of those guys. Raphaela is

804
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: one of those guys. Durban I mean they have Now

805
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: there's some volatility with that, right because maybe they have

806
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: overperformed what their career will be. But going on the

807
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: positive side, I think that these are guys that are

808
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 4: still getting better. So I like the lineup. I think

809
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: they will hit. I think they will. I like to

810
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: fashion myself as somebody who can identify when I look

811
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: at projections and identify is.

812
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: It right, is it too high, is it too low?

813
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: And I feel like a lot of the projections we're

814
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: seeing for Red Sox hitters is just a little too low.

815
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 4: So I think they will overperform their projections.

816
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: I think they will. The bats will. I think they

817
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: will pitch.

818
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: Well, and I think they will hold their own in

819
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 4: the American leagues more than many believe.

820
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: Heading into the season.

821
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: I see a lineup that is going to be gritty.

822
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: I see a lineup that is going to have good abs.

823
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: They're going to take their walks. I think they are

824
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: going to start cutting down on these strikeouts that we've

825
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: seen over the last couple of years because you've got

826
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: you know, you brought in someone like Caleb Durban who

827
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: makes a ton of contact. You know, obviously Roman Anthony

828
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: now at the top of the lineup that was amazing

829
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: leading off last year. I think you're gonna see a

830
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: gritty team. You know, maybe come postseason time, that's where

831
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: who knows where the you know, what's the power in

832
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: the lineup going to be looking like, you know, for

833
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays. I think this is an interesting conversation

834
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: because the Blue Jays, you know, they weren't.

835
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Necessarily actually have flat and sp but they.

836
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: Were the middle of the road. They hit you to death, right.

837
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: They weren't exactly you know, top five team.

838
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: They came to power.

839
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: They were very good contact, they took their walks, they

840
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: didn't strike out a whole lot, and played good defense.

841
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: Right.

842
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: So that's kind of I think where the Red Sox

843
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: are thinking, you know what we just saw all the

844
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: Blue Jays did last year.

845
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: We're going to try and do that.

846
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: Maybe they could add some kind of a bat at

847
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: the deadline, you know, maybe we'll see. But obviously the

848
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: strength of this team is the rotation. Like you said,

849
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: you're bringing Rangers Suarez traded for Sonny Gray. I mean

850
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: on fanagrass right now, it is the number one projected

851
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: rotation in all of Major League Baseball.

852
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: As a whole.

853
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: You could argue the Dodgers one through three, even four,

854
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: maybe us say one through three better overall, but rotation

855
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: as a whole for the Red Sox, including one through

856
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: five as well as Peyton totally Connolly early that's very strong,

857
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: so very deep starting pitching wise, Garrett Crochet is a

858
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: cy young candidate. Suarez Gray I and two of the

859
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: best pictures in basea best two of the better pictures

860
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: in baseball going back the last few years.

861
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: Who knows that Brian Beao, you know, four.

862
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: Exactly and that's the thing he should The additions.

863
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: Is that they may also put guys in positions in

864
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 4: the rotation and then.

865
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: The lineup that I think are better for them.

866
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: And then Oviedo, Right, this guy has always had a

867
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: lot of upside, looked pretty good at times last year

868
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: after coming back from Tommy John he's your five and

869
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: then you got totally early two top pitching prospects in

870
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: the game.

871
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: Is your six to seven?

872
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: Oh, don't do it, I just ye, but they're a

873
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: good six to seven.

874
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: Okay, goodness gracious, what have I done?

875
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: And I will say with the bullpen, they were very

876
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: good last year or oldest Chapman Garrett Whitlock one of

877
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: the best one two punctions in the game. You know

878
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: that's last year, though, you know, let's see if they

879
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: can keep that going this year. So I could maybe

880
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: see the Red Sox looking for a bullpen arm at

881
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: the deadline. Yes, we'll see. Yes, well that's where your

882
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: deep rotation. Yes, I mean, I'm not saying we went

883
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: totally in.

884
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: Early out of the bullpen, but maybe that's what ends

885
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 4: up happening at some point because they're pitching so well

886
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: and the bullpen is going through some struggles, maybe Oviedo

887
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: it ends up in the bullpen something that that deep

888
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: rotation could lead to some pieces that end up in

889
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 4: the bullpen and help boost that up.

890
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

891
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: And you know I didn't even mention Crutter Crawford as

892
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: well as Patrick Sandoval. Right, you know that's how much

893
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: pitching they have. I named off seven guys and then

894
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: you got those guys too, Right, it's really good starting pitching.

895
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: I will say this, if you get to the postseason

896
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: and you got Crochet Suarez Gray as your one two three,

897
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: that would have beat the Yankees in the postseason last

898
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: year in the wildcard round. I do believe that. I

899
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: think that would have gotten by them. Yeah, let's see

900
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: how far it goes, you know, for you where how

901
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: far do you think the Red Sox as of right now,

902
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: with what we have on paper, how far do.

903
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: You think they could go?

904
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: I think they're a wildcard team. I have the Jays

905
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: winning the division narrowly, Yankees and Red Sox, and my

906
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: bold prediction is that the Orioles also sneak in that

907
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: all of the wild card teams come out of the

908
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: American League East.

909
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm just not high enough on the Central. I think

910
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: Kansas City will be good, but I think you have

911
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: to win the division in the Central. You have to

912
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: win the division in the West. So put the Red.

913
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: Sox in October and yeah, then it boils down to

914
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: the matchups.

915
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: It boils down to who's healthy and who's hot.

916
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 4: And the Red Sox have the talent and the depth

917
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 4: that if they're the hottest team, they could go as

918
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: far as I mean they've They've got the talent to

919
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: take them deep.

920
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: And that's how I think. I think they're built well

921
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: for one sixty two. Right, it's a long season. You

922
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: got nine starting pitchers here. You can carry them through.

923
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes. You know, it's gonna be

924
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 2: interesting with this outfield mix Roman Duran Seti Willier and you.

925
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, what do you that's what are you guys

926
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: doing with all of this? I mean, what are we

927
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: doing with all the depth here's good. It's a good

928
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: problem to have.

929
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think Masa is kor keeps praising him

930
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: kor saying he's he's a good hitter. He's part of

931
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: the solution here. Logistically, I don't know, unless you unless

932
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: you got an eighteen million dollar bat on your bench,

933
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: and you're.

934
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay with that.

935
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, while also leaving another guy down in the minors

936
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: or wherever, off the roster that could give you some

937
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: good infield depth, like a Brandon Rogers, you know, for instance.

938
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

939
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Yoshida, it's gonna be really interesting. I feel like he

940
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: could be defayed by the beginning of the season. Yeah,

941
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: I think he would clear waivers at that point because

942
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't see a team picking up his entire contract.

943
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, so could.

944
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: End up being like that you know, Pablo Sandoval thing

945
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: where d fade and then just release them. You know,

946
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: maybe we'll see, you know. I think the Red Sox

947
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: are set up very well. I think they have what

948
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: it takes to win the division. I right now, I

949
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: think they'll end up with a wild card. I think

950
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: they have the upside of the division totally. I think

951
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: there's still a piece or two as of right now

952
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: away from really going for a world series, I feel

953
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: like they're not fully there. But they're a really good team,

954
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: right I could definitely, I think, cause some havoc need

955
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: a couple more moves though.

956
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the the you know the ninety percent

957
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: there in that ten percent. Does that come externally you

958
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 4: know they're they're because they're set up, they're close enough,

959
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 4: or does it develop.

960
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: Internally to totally Early either of those two.

961
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: Step up, Because if that happens, and you then have

962
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: a rotation of Crochet, Gray, Suarez, Bao and let's just

963
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: go totally I mean Early's pitching out of the bullpen.

964
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you put together really good pitching staff,

965
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: go trade for another, you know, lights out a high

966
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 4: swing and miss guy for the bullpen.

967
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: You have enough depth in the lineup. He should be

968
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: able to figure it out with that group.

969
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: Now I would, I'd be really excited. I don't understand

970
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 4: why so many people are down on the Red Sox.

971
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: I think it's just a general hate is all. Is

972
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: all I can say is I really don't see any reason.

973
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: As a Blue Jay fan, I don't see any reason

974
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: to be down on the Red Sox this year.

975
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: I do think there are a few Red Sox fans

976
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: out there that really hated this offseason.

977
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: For them, it's just pregnant. It's the bad taste from

978
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 4: the Bregmant loss. And nothing's gonna replace him.

979
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: I think. I think your fan base is going to

980
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: love Caleb Durban.

981
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think he's he's a favorite.

982
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not gonna put up gaudy numbers, but he's

983
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: a dude. He's a good ballplayer, and every fan base

984
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: appreciates just a good ballplayer.

985
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: It's a good, hard nosed player, dirt dog kind of

986
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: a players.

987
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: I love that.

988
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: But Jim, we're gonna wrap it up right there, all right,

989
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: I think that is all we got for this preview

990
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: here today. I mean, goodness, it's gonna be a dog

991
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: fight in American League. That's gonna I mean, even the

992
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: Rays are.

993
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: Gonna be a pain in the butt at the end

994
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Speaker 1: of the day. Say what ends up happening. But Jim,

995
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, Say it's fun. Appreciate you.

996
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: But everybody again, go follow Jim Ballcap Sports on YouTube.

997
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