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Speaker 2: All right, So we talked a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 3: About the Jade and Daniels injury, the dislocated elbow. He's

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Speaker 3: out indefinitely, and the question afterwards was about, you know,

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Speaker 3: why was he in the game at that point, and

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Speaker 3: you know, should he have been taken out of the

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Speaker 3: game earlier with it being such a wipeout and risking

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Speaker 3: his health, et cetera, et cetera. Well, Dan Quinn, the

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Speaker 3: Commander's head coach, spoke yesterday and accepted responsibility for that decision.

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Speaker 4: I know many of you have been asking about the

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Speaker 4: thought process of Jaden being in the game in that situation.

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Speaker 5: I get that.

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Speaker 4: I've been thinking about honestly NonStop two and you know,

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Speaker 4: for me, the answers man, I missed it, but I would,

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Speaker 5: On my thought process.

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Speaker 4: At start of the fourth Core, I guess it was

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Speaker 4: probably like twelve and a half minutes left in the game,

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Speaker 4: and that was gonna be the last try for a

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Speaker 4: couple of guys Jayden and Zach and Debo and LT

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Speaker 4: and so we're gonna have any read run plays and

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Speaker 4: meaning no carries, you know, for the quarterback on a run,

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Speaker 4: and honestly, man, that's where I missed it. Of course

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Speaker 4: he could scramble.

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Speaker 5: It's Jaden. It's what he's special at.

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Speaker 4: And that is one hundred percent that's on me.

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Speaker 6: So that's what he's specialized scrambling. Well, yeah, to me,

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Speaker 6: that's the bigger that's the bigger point of all of this.

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Speaker 6: You don't need to take the blame for a player

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Speaker 6: that got injured doing what they're special at, doing what

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Speaker 6: am I and I get the conventional wisdom of saying, Okay,

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Speaker 6: the game's out of reach, like pull your starters out.

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Speaker 2: I get that, but he didn't. He played his starters.

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Speaker 6: Like it's always going to be an easy point of

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Speaker 2: Like, but I mean, the man's a coach. He's got

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Speaker 7: And so so let me ask you this because this

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Speaker 7: it and then even it as we talked a little

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Speaker 7: bit about yesterday, we didn't have time to fully discuss,

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Speaker 7: but we talk about taking out your starters.

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Speaker 5: You can only take out so many like we do

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Speaker 7: Preseason two, or react like oh yeah, the backups are

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Speaker 5: Well, okay, your roster size is a.

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Speaker 7: Bit bigger then, but once you get to the regular season, like, dude,

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Speaker 5: You can't pull everyone.

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Speaker 7: There's not some sort of whole change, like all the

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Speaker 7: backups are in, Like you don't dress that many guys.

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Speaker 7: So I do wonder as a head coach when you

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Speaker 7: look at where Washington's been, where they've struggled offensively, and

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Speaker 7: some people had said, well, maybe there's the thought of

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Speaker 7: trying to get them into a rhythm, or maybe there's

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Speaker 7: the thought of just trying to get him one decent series,

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Speaker 7: get a touchdown, trying to get something going out of

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Speaker 7: that game because.

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Speaker 5: They played so poorly.

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Speaker 7: But I also wonder, like in the locker room, you

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Speaker 7: and have to battle and have to finish out the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: like how do you view it, like if your starter

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Speaker 6: But I'm still out here. You're told to fight for

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Speaker 6: sixty minutes. You're told to lock in and dial in.

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Speaker 6: If we were to look around the league we talked

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Speaker 6: about last week prior to this one, how how not

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Speaker 6: can non competitive? These games were and teams were getting

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Speaker 6: beat by multiple possessions. How many of those quarterbacks finished

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Speaker 6: the game? You know, it's so easy to stop and

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Speaker 6: flash a big light on, oh my gosh, this coach

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Speaker 6: left their player in, he ends up getting hurt. What

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Speaker 6: are you doing? You should have pulled him out? Like,

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Speaker 6: look around the league. How many quarterbacks that had two

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Speaker 2: I don't think we need to even.

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Speaker 6: Overthink it, the idea of saying, oh, you should have

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Speaker 6: pulled him, you should have pulled him, Like it's season,

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Speaker 2: He's playing the game and he hasn't played that much.

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Speaker 2: I don't even care if he hasn't.

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Speaker 6: If anything, if he hasn't played that much, I'm be like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: maybe he's tired. Let me give him, let me give

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Speaker 6: him a play count, because he could be tired, let

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Speaker 6: me inch him back in. But if he's up and

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Speaker 6: running and he's full go, why would you, as a

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Speaker 6: coach even give that too much thought of We're going

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Speaker 6: from whistle to whistle for four quarters. It's the regular season,

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Speaker 6: it's not preseason. So why do why do I have

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Speaker 6: to be scrutinized. I mean, you get why scrutinized. It's

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Speaker 6: the profession, it's part of it. But you don't have

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Speaker 6: You didn't have anybody else coming out in rage. Oh

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Speaker 6: my gosh, they had the starter in at the end

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Speaker 6: of the game, and they weren't. They clearly had no

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Speaker 6: chance of winning the game. Well, remember it was Carson

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Speaker 6: O'Connell and them and said, no, they did not. This

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Speaker 6: I knew what the risk that comes along with this.

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Speaker 6: It was my choice to stay in.

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Speaker 3: I was in pain and basically defended the organization because

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Speaker 3: there were some people who are like, well, man, he's

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Speaker 3: clearly in pain. Why is he still out there? And

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Speaker 3: then he ends up having season ending surgery? You know

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Speaker 3: the a few days later, the part that bugs me

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Speaker 6: Say what My next point was, I hope you say

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Speaker 6: what I think it is good? Well I do, and

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Speaker 6: say it with your chest. Well, yeah, it's not going

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Speaker 6: to be what I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that dan Quinn basically caved to the

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Speaker 3: soft narrative that was put out because of Jaden Daniels's injury. Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't like the fact that dan Quinn had to

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Speaker 3: come out. And I'm not surprised because I know he's

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Speaker 3: a stand up guy and he's a good dude. But

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Speaker 3: the fact that he came out and accepted responsibility for

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Speaker 3: a quarterback getting injured in an NFL game, why because

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Speaker 3: people were asking, well, what is he still doing in there? Well,

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Speaker 3: he hasn't played that much. They're trying to get some

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Speaker 3: sort of a rhythm on offense. I know it's a blowout,

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Speaker 3: but he's got to get some reps and he's got

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Speaker 3: to he's got to get back into the swing of

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Speaker 3: things somehow. Marshaun Lattimore LaVar brought this up yesterday. He

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Speaker 3: tore his acl I mean, is that dan Quinn's fault too?

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Speaker 3: Like it is our guys getting injured in the fourth

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Speaker 3: quarter of games that are out of reach. Is that

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Speaker 3: the coach's fault because they get injured or is that

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Speaker 3: just the fact that it's football. It's it's basic sanction violence,

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna fall and land awkwardly from time to

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Speaker 3: time and bad things are going to happen. The fact

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Speaker 3: accept response or take responsibility, I think it's a bad

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Speaker 3: look and I think it kind of presents him as

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Speaker 3: a Hey, if you uh, if you talk loud enough

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Speaker 3: and you uh and you make enough noise, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: cave to the narratives out there and have to speak

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Speaker 6: Can I ask you, guys, one serious question? Absolutely not okay,

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Speaker 6: never mind question. Okay, Why is there no scrutiny on

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Speaker 6: the decision making of Jaydon Daniels in this situation the

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Speaker 6: game is out of reach, You clearly cannot win the game.

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Speaker 6: That's that's the narrative that that is driving the outrage

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Speaker 6: and the backlash of the decision making of the head

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Speaker 6: coach because if he doesn't play hard, then he gets

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Speaker 6: the Cam Newton treatment and he never lives down the fashion.

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Speaker 2: So if he throws the ball away.

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Speaker 6: If he if he throws the ball away or hands

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Speaker 6: the ball off, because if I recall my recollection from

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Speaker 6: So if it's throwing it to the flat, he can

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Speaker 6: easily throw it away. It garbage time. Hand the ball off.

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Speaker 6: I don't care if you lose five yards running hand

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Speaker 7: I get it, like I understand what you're saying, and

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Speaker 7: I think that comes with playing more and like time

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Speaker 7: live to play the next down, because you will not

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Speaker 7: survive if you keep trying to play outside the pocket

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Speaker 7: for so many plays. Eventually you'll get hurt, either via

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Speaker 7: not being lucky enough to be able to get down

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Speaker 7: or side, whatever the case is. Bad things happen outside

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Speaker 5: So it changes.

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Speaker 7: But eventually that comes The hard thing about what you're saying,

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Speaker 7: LeVar is you don't want to take out that competitiveness

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Speaker 7: in him. And again, he hasn't played that much, so

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Speaker 7: there's an element two of him wanting to get back

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Speaker 7: it's it's complicated. You could see it from both sides.

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Speaker 7: But I do hate the fact.

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Speaker 2: I'm not upset at it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know and I'm not I'm not attacking Jaydon

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Speaker 6: Daniels for it. All I'm saying is is if it

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Speaker 6: to create what he was going to create, what do

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Speaker 6: people have a problem for, Like, I haven't heard one

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Speaker 6: pull the ball down and start scrambling. It's not that

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Speaker 6: it's his fault, it's you don't have to come up

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Speaker 6: with justification.

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Speaker 2: He was doing his job. It's he was doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's just football.

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Speaker 5: It's what I said yesterday, It's it's football.

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Speaker 7: We can dissect this whole decision from Dan Quinn, from

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Speaker 2: Correct injuries happen.

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Speaker 6: Correct injuries are gonna happen, and that's unfortunate that it happened.

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Speaker 6: It was grotesque, It was upsetting to watch it take place.

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Speaker 6: It's your franchise, guy.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 6: But if that, like we said, you said, Marshaun Lattimore,

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Speaker 2: Get them in.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's the local police officer, he drops both of

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Speaker 2: There was an unwritten rule.

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Speaker 6: That the relationship between the media and the players and

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Speaker 2: Of the sport of the game.

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Speaker 6: Not to tear them down, Not to look for these

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Speaker 6: you're actually destroying. You're destroying the reputation of the coach,

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Speaker 6: You're destroying the reputation of the organization. Apologize, that's not

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Speaker 6: been saying. This is a team that was one game

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Speaker 6: The Clearly the approach that dan Quinn has brought to

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Speaker 6: Focus in on. Okay, it's unfortunate that he got hurt,

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Speaker 6: But dan Quinn, this new ownership group, they seemingly brought

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Speaker 6: Why are you slipping back into your old ways of

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Speaker 6: how to cover and how to do these things? And

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Speaker 2: Why do you think dan Quinn did it?

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Speaker 6: Why do you get thinks they have to put that

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Speaker 6: much apologize because it's the nation's capital. That's the way

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Speaker 6: they bro They like the only the only media market

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Speaker 6: But you go into it understanding that's what you signed

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Speaker 6: up for. The Washington DC media, I'm telling you, they

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Speaker 6: handle it like it's a White House address. I've seen

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Speaker 5: Everton up to the podium next, please heal.

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Hello, Hello, good evening to you all.

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Speaker 7: He's the chair of the Talking Smack Hitstick Talking Committee.

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Speaker 6: I would certainly never go into the details of the

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Speaker 6: but I just like to say, respectfully, they played a

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Speaker 6: wonderful game. They you know, for us, we can stand

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Speaker 6: to get better. I mean, how amazing were they? Like

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Speaker 6: even if they didn't do it, still give them credit. Underplay,

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Speaker 6: under deliver yourselves and keep it moving. And it's so

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Speaker 5: Can I be honest with you.

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Speaker 7: One of the most disheartening things as as a competitor, though,

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Speaker 7: you're like, we're not able to score that many times

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Speaker 5: It It's it's terrible to be playing out the game

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Speaker 7: It's like you know, like like you're watching this this

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Speaker 5: You know it's coming. You can't stop it. There's nothing

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Speaker 7: And like I remember we played Baltimore on Monday night

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Speaker 7: I was like, I think I even told Josh Cribs this.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, do not try to extend this. And sure enough,

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Speaker 5: Because he gets injured. You lose one of your best players.

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Speaker 6: All of that. The angles, that's the angles. Adversarial coverage,

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Speaker 7: And when you lose, it doesn't matter. At the end

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Speaker 7: Everything else. I can't tell you how many times we

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Speaker 5: This, and the media never asked about it.

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Speaker 7: They don't ask about those like critical mistakes you actually

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Speaker 5: It's only in a loss. And so that's the hard.

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Speaker 7: But that's ultimately too. The other issue with all this

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Speaker 7: You know, when you lose, it's there's always going to

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 5: That's easy to say.

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Speaker 7: Now, That's that's part of my issue with all this

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 7: Why don't you pull all the guys out? You know what,

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Speaker 7: it's like, it's like you're in such a no win

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Speaker 6: You shouldn't have to tell your kid if there is

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Speaker 2: You'll burn your hand.

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Speaker 6: You shouldn't have to tell your kids things that common

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Speaker 6: If you're at the end of a game and you're

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Speaker 6: If you played in college, you know in the college level,

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Speaker 2: And if you do, because you want to be considered the.

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Speaker 6: It was a handoff or a pass, there's no reason

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Speaker 6: that should be the If you're going to focus on

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Speaker 6: We're I mean, we make these these bold claims that, well,

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Speaker 2: Should be, don't get hit. The game is.

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Speaker 6: Structured for you to be protected and not be hurt

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Speaker 2: Jaydon Daniels took that and maybe ended his season.

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Speaker 6: Don't take those types of hits, not now, not ever,

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Speaker 2: Something that he does very well. He did it.

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Speaker 6: He pulled the ball down, started moving, moving out of

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Speaker 6: You don't have to sit there and act like a

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Speaker 2: Goddang head coach.

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Speaker 6: That man is coaching the game, and he has other

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 6: the freaking ball off case, closed throw throw the incomplete

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Speaker 6: throw the flat you didn't get in the yards?

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Speaker 2: So what is incomplete? So what what mess with your

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Speaker 2: QB are? So what?

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 6: What? Like routine play shouldn't even be a conversation And

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Speaker 6: then you're right, Jonas, he should not have come out

444
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Speaker 6: and apologized for it. He said he ran it in

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Speaker 6: his head. Okay, great, you called to play fifty times.

446
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Speaker 6: He said, what fifty times out of fifty times you

447
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Speaker 6: run this play? It's a handoff four throw, Come on, man,

448
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Speaker 6: throw to the flat, which is quick throw to the flat.

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Speaker 2: Which is quick.

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Speaker 6: Shame old commanders, I mean, that's what it sounds like.

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Speaker 6: At least they trying.

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Speaker 3: maybe a surprise MVP candidate in the NFL that will

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Speaker 2: In Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we should also mention this there was

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Speaker 3: a trade that took place in the NFL. With the

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Speaker 3: trade deadline coming up later on today. The Bengals have

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Speaker 3: traded Logan Wilson, their linebacker to the Dallas Cowboys. So

497
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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones did make a deal for somebody and Cincinnati's

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Speaker 3: bad defense gets worse, So good for everybody involved. But

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Speaker 3: the other storyline in the state of Ohio is the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns from a football standpoint, and Kevin Stefanski has

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Speaker 3: decided he's no longer going to be calling plays instead

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Speaker 3: that I'll go to Tommy Reese, the offensive coordinator. Here

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Speaker 3: was Stefanski explaining the decision.

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Speaker 10: It's never about one person, So whether it's you're talking

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Speaker 10: about a player or a coach, it's not about one person.

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Speaker 10: But obviously I think Tommy's gonna be himself and that's

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Speaker 10: what you know, I'm asking him to do, and I'll

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Speaker 10: be there every step of the way to help him

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Speaker 10: in any way I can, like like you should with

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Speaker 10: any play caller. But bottom line is he understands what

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Speaker 10: we need to do, which is stay on the field

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Speaker 10: and score some points.

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Speaker 2: Beginning of the end. For Stefanski just a.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's it's never good when you're an offensive and you,

515
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Speaker 7: you know, give up those.

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Speaker 5: Play calling duties.

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Speaker 7: You know, we can talk about whether or not as

518
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Speaker 7: a head coach in the NFL you should even take

519
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Speaker 7: that on in the first place, there's so many hats

520
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Speaker 7: you have to wear as a head coach in the

521
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Speaker 7: NFL that that maybe it should be something that you

522
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Speaker 7: only do as a last resort, not something that you do.

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's only so many Sean mcvay's and Kyle shanahan's,

524
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Speaker 7: and then there's some others we can probably bring up

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Speaker 7: in point to whether they're offensive or defensive minded head

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Speaker 7: coaches that call that side of the ball. But it's

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Speaker 7: really really hard. I mean, Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota, I

528
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Speaker 7: remember sitting now with him and asking him and said,

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Speaker 7: you know, I've got to feel like I've got another

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Speaker 7: head coach on my staff that can coach on the

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Speaker 7: other side. And he's lucky he's got Brian Flores and

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Speaker 7: he feels confident in him. I think he had Wade

533
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Speaker 7: Phillips when.

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Speaker 5: He first got there.

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Speaker 7: So there's just there's a there's you know, a different

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Speaker 7: way of structuring it depending on who you are, but

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Speaker 7: it's it feels like, because of the circumstances surrounding Cleveland

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Speaker 7: that this is more of that sort of move Now.

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Speaker 7: It's also a great experience for Tommy, you know, who

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Speaker 7: gets to call plays at the NFL level, he's called

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Speaker 7: him at the college level. You know, he's someone who

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Speaker 7: I've admired for his transition into coaching and the job

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Speaker 7: that he's done, whether he's at Notre Dame or even Alabama,

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Speaker 7: he always has called things more in an NFL style,

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Speaker 7: and that's something that I appreciated. You know, he exploits matchups,

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Speaker 7: He understands what the opponent is trying to give them,

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Speaker 7: and and usually dials something up to be able to

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Speaker 7: attack that. You know, and and I see, I think

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Speaker 7: sometimes he was underappreciated in Notre Dame because you know,

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Speaker 7: people kind of want this, you know, more higher scoring,

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Speaker 7: more up tempo, more that it's always more of like

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Speaker 7: the gimmicky stuff that doesn't work at the high level.

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Speaker 5: And you know, he wasn't that.

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Speaker 7: And honestly, I think again he was underappreciated for the

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Speaker 7: job that he did as OOC during his time in

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Speaker 7: Notre Dame. But this is a great opportunity for him

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Speaker 7: despite the circumstances. And more so than that, I mean, look,

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Speaker 7: what's what's it's the downside if things don't work out,

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Speaker 7: It's like, well, it's not like the season's been going

560
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Speaker 7: well anyway, so he'll get a chance to coach up

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Speaker 7: call plays with Dylan. He'll eventually probably get a chance

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Speaker 7: to call plays for Shador Like. I feel like it's

563
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Speaker 7: all building towards that too, given how the season's going

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Speaker 7: for Cleveland. But to take on a Jets defense that's

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Speaker 7: struggled this year, you know, in your first first week

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Speaker 7: doing it. It's an awesome opportunity for him, but you know,

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Speaker 7: it does signify I think if things don't go well,

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Speaker 7: you gotta wonder if this change was made, because there's

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Speaker 7: a thought that, based on how things are going, Stefanski

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Speaker 7: could be out. And then I'll say this, if he

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Speaker 7: gets fired, two seconds later, he'll get a phone call

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Speaker 7: or multiple phone calls to be a head coach somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a damn good, damn good head coach.

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Speaker 7: So if that's the direction Jimmy Hasm's going to go,

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Speaker 7: he can make that decision, but he's gonna watch him

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Speaker 7: go somewhere else and have success.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that Haslam has any other recourse but

578
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: to go in a different direction. If they finished with

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Speaker 6: a poor record again this year, I mean, you had

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Speaker 6: three wins just a year ago, and listen, I mean

581
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Speaker 6: I don't again, I think people would debate and probably

582
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Speaker 6: be in favor of Stefanski in terms of everything went

583
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Speaker 6: wrong when Baker Mayfield wasn't believed in and Deshaun Watson

584
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Speaker 6: was that's when everything went bad. Now, granted, you know,

585
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Speaker 6: just the year before the three win season, they got

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Speaker 6: to eleven wins and Stefanski has been the coach of

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Speaker 6: the year in recent kind of recent years, so you

588
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Speaker 6: do know.

589
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Speaker 2: How good of a coach he is.

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Speaker 6: But you still have to be able to overcome the

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Speaker 6: circumstances that whether it's based upon injury or whether it

592
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 6: was based upon decisions made outside of your jurisdiction, whatever

593
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Speaker 6: it may be, you have to manage and then handle

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Speaker 6: what the expectations are for the team as the coach.

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Speaker 6: And right now this is a poorly performing team. You

596
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Speaker 6: got a guy that's playing at a high level, maybe

597
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 6: the best in the league, and the defensive player in

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Speaker 6: Miles Garrett, and you're wasting You're wasting his production. I

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Speaker 6: just I look at it like this, It's hard to

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Speaker 6: hold a guy in content when when he's not playing,

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Speaker 6: he's playing with a late round draft pick and you're

602
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Speaker 6: trying to figure out an offense with a rookie, late

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Speaker 6: round draft pick, there's a learning curve. It's not going

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Speaker 6: to be easy. You look at cam Ward and Tennessee

605
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Speaker 6: he I mean, he's getting banged up as a high

606
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Speaker 6: draft pick, and that is what it is. He's got

607
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Speaker 6: to go through the learning process and you hope he

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00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 6: can get through it and be the better for it.

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Speaker 6: But the problem is, more often than not, when you

610
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Speaker 6: go to these types of organizations, you don't necessarily get better.

611
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 6: It doesn't necessarily get that or for the quarterback, So

612
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 6: and looking at where this team is, they do not

613
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Speaker 6: have a franchise quarterback. And if you do not have

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Speaker 6: a franchise quarterback, you can't ask a coach to make

615
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 6: chicken salad out of chicken s And that's what it

616
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 6: ultimately come. And I'm not saying that Dylan Gabriel is

617
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Speaker 6: chicken ass. I'm not saying that should War Sanders this

618
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 6: chicken ass. I'm saying the situation.

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Speaker 3: Is, uh, Brady, you mentioned if Stefanski gets clipped, he'll

620
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: get a call, you know, ten to fifteen minutes later

621
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Speaker 3: to be a head coach somewhere. I mean, if this

622
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: thing plays out the way we think it might play

623
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Speaker 3: out in Cincinnati. I mean that that could be an

624
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Speaker 3: interesting spot for Stefanski knows the division, get.

625
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: To work with Joe Burrow.

626
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Speaker 5: Yeah, short trip too. Yeah down there.

627
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Speaker 2: That would be that's called sladding, that is slat sense.

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Speaker 5: We should do a show from there. If this ends

629
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Speaker 5: up happening, you know, go down to the jungle, you know,

630
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Speaker 5: see if we can't, just I'll cup the nasty natty

631
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: either bang with.

632
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Speaker 2: I think they'd welcome us there, Oh I bang.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do not hope.

634
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Speaker 7: So I mean, I don't you act like they hate

635
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Speaker 7: us just because I've said the organization is cheap. I mean,

636
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 7: maybe we could put pressure on them, Maybe they'd buy

637
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 7: some ham sandwiches or something for the video show.

638
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I didn't feel like too much to

639
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Speaker 2: ask for them.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they could provide like a folding table for us

641
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Speaker 5: to put our our equipment on.

642
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: I also, so Albert Brier made mention of this a

643
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago that.

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Speaker 7: They're probably the type of organization that would hand us

645
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 7: like one napkin with the sandwich too, you know, not

646
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 7: like not like we could go get multiple you know,

647
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Speaker 7: what I'm saying those restaurants are like no, no, no, we

648
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Speaker 7: don't like to give out too many napkins, Like oh

649
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 7: this is where your your costs are lost on the napkins.

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Speaker 6: Gotcha all right, you can only have one. It's extra

651
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 6: the other side of ketchup. So you know the chargue

652
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 6: for brit now you know how you use you know? No,

653
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 6: you never like bread is like you bring that out

654
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Speaker 6: to the table as soon as you get It's like

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Speaker 6: chips and salsa.

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Speaker 7: Okay, But I'm saying I feel like most places are

657
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Speaker 7: starting to do that now. That's why I'm that's crazy.

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Speaker 7: That's a weird that's a weird development.

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Speaker 6: I was like, wait, you guys charge for a starter

660
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Speaker 6: bread at this I feel like a lot.

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Speaker 7: Of places charge for even chips and salsa now. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I remember che cheese chechese around. They used to have

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Speaker 7: the hat. You know, they get up, you stand on

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Speaker 7: the chair, they sing you on your birthday. It was

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Speaker 7: the best.

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Speaker 2: Salsay that That bothers me though.

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Speaker 5: It's like a Saturday for Jonas.

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Speaker 6: Like I went just like a super upscale steak steak

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Speaker 6: restaurant and they had the sour Oh no, I just

670
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Speaker 6: know this speedy at my house ran into the pool

671
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Speaker 6: because he saw mister Steaks and we had to fishing bout. Oh.

672
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Speaker 6: But I just don't understand why sour though is on

673
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Speaker 6: like and it was like twelve dollars damn.

674
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Speaker 2: To get starter sour dough bread we're at.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to do some America. I'm going to

676
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 6: use y'all. I'm going to use y'all's cards soon though.

677
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Speaker 6: I know that you're a real out here for a player. Man,

678
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Speaker 6: that's a good bacteria in that sour though, though. You know,

679
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Speaker 6: I guess you gotta pay for that.

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Speaker 5: See right, Ray.

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Speaker 11: Knows Surday specialty stuff.

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Speaker 5: You got that good bacteria.

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Speaker 2: Stay away from that. We know that com bread. I

684
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Speaker 2: guess I guess who you're talking to.

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Speaker 5: Yah, What are you talking about?

686
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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 8: Ray?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even.

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Speaker 6: Talking about I don't know. She after her weekend, Yeah,

690
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Speaker 6: she came in talking about what what did you say?

691
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Speaker 6: She said something like, it was Monday, Monday. You do

692
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: know it's Tuesday, right, yep. Some of us just party

693
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 6: hearty all night long during the weekend and kept it

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Speaker 6: going on Monday and decided to come in on a

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Speaker 6: Tuesday and night like it was like the end of

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Speaker 6: the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Where'd you stay at a Grand California or whatever it's called.

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Speaker 11: I'm still there. I'm going right back after work.

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Speaker 5: Still there, Still there?

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Speaker 2: Damn how far with drive is that?

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Speaker 11: Right now?

702
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 12: It's only forty minutes, But by the time I get

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Speaker 12: off it might be an hour and a half.

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Speaker 6: Dang well, I guess it's worth it though, Yeah, yeah,

705
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Speaker 6: is it worth it?

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Speaker 2: Oh? There you go?

707
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Speaker 12: Luxury, luxury, luxury. I feel so bougie walking through there.

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Speaker 12: You really, yeah, because the rooms are so expensive every

709
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Speaker 12: night and everyone else is just like, you know, going

710
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Speaker 12: to and fro from the park. And I got my

711
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Speaker 12: bathing suit on going to the pool with my sunglasses.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it's it's a vibe.

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Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, And do you document all this on ig?

714
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Speaker 11: I do you know?

715
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Speaker 6: I do?

716
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: Huh?

717
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Speaker 5: What is the endgame with that the documentary? I'm just

718
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 5: I'm always curious, like, where is this all going?

719
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Speaker 6: I will tell you off there, I tell you worried.

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Speaker 7: You could get kidnapped, right right. I mean it's just

721
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Speaker 7: like the dad and me having daughters. But I'm always

722
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Speaker 7: like and it's funny, like now we're on college campuses.

723
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Speaker 7: I'm always like, hey, guys, like be safe, you know.

724
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Speaker 7: I always tell the kids, like have fun, be safe,

725
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Speaker 7: congrats you know, be safe all.

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Speaker 5: Right, Like don't trust a drink if a guy gives

727
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Speaker 5: it to you. It's already opening, you know. I'm like

728
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Speaker 5: giving them advice that.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, my girls aren't old enough to give them

730
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Speaker 7: that advice.

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Speaker 5: But I'm like already there.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, already worried about, concerned about these young people now.

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Speaker 11: Can't be afraid to live your best life.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: There you go trunk of a car.

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Speaker 11: That's it can be comfy.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point.

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Speaker 6: But I was about to say, I mean the people

739
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Speaker 6: that you're warning your your kids about when you see

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Speaker 6: them kids is Lorena Like wow, wow, wow, far you

741
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Speaker 6: might end up in Lorena.

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Speaker 11: And I thought we were friends.

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Speaker 10: Bar I.

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Speaker 11: Have the muscle strength of a wet noodle. There's no

745
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Speaker 11: way I'm putting anyone in.

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Speaker 2: A truck, Loraina, walk in your trap, take over your trap.

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Speaker 11: You did, They'll get in my trunk willingly.

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Speaker 6: You'll want you don't want to mess with lorrainus. You

749
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Speaker 6: want to take over your trap. That's all you would

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Speaker 6: tell you.

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Speaker 3: All right, So the MVP favorites has a name that

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Speaker 3: is maybe not familiar to people as far as names

778
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Speaker 3: that you would find on your standard normal MVP list.

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Speaker 3: One of those names is Sam Darnold, who's currently sitting

780
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Speaker 3: at twenty to one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah like that, I like those.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen is the favorite at plus one eighty, followed

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Speaker 3: by Patrick Mahomes, Drake May's at plus four twenty five,

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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield, and then you've got Sam Donald, So.

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Speaker 7: I'd sprinkle someone Drake May Baker, Sam Donald. I mean,

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Speaker 7: if those three keep it up, and I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: that Mahomes and Allen won't continue to be in the conversation.

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Speaker 5: They both play for very.

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Speaker 7: Good teams and they're actually, you know, two of the

790
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 7: best in the league. But don't you think if like

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Speaker 7: Donald keeps this up, what six and two right now?

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Speaker 5: And like Donald, by the way.

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Speaker 7: The thing that impresses me the most is he's not

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Speaker 7: dinking and dunking like he is chucking the thing down

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Speaker 7: the field. And I think a lot of people, including myself,

796
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: wrote this team off before the season because they got

797
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Speaker 7: rid of Metcalf, they got rid of Lockett. You know,

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Speaker 7: we were like, all right, how much can Jackson Smith

799
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Speaker 7: and Jigba you know handle.

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Speaker 5: On his own?

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Speaker 7: And they've been fine, Like there hasn't been one issue

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00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 7: whatsoever so far for this team. Donald's played phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: H I would I would go the direct should have

804
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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford at plus five point fifty twenty one touchdowns

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Speaker 3: two picks.

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Speaker 5: On the year.

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Speaker 3: They're a team that looks like they're gonna they're going

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Speaker 3: to continue on and potentially win that division of everything.

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Speaker 7: Now, does he get knocked down a peg because of

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Speaker 7: that photographer situation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean an assault like that is a bit much.

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Speaker 3: She's just trying to do her job. You didn't have

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Speaker 3: to throw her off the stage, you know, like she

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Speaker 3: was Martin. Sheenough that departed. It just it just was inappropriate.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, I would go. I would go

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Speaker 3: to Matthew Stafford. There, who you got var who's your MVP?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this fella named the