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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast O.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in, and I say back in because I've

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Speaker 2: already done a four hour radio tour. Appreciate all the

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Speaker 2: affiliates that hosted me all over the country this morning.

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Speaker 2: A lot of fun, and we're going to continue that

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Speaker 2: fun with a bevy of stories to chase down throughout

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Speaker 2: the course of the program. Let'll give you a little roadmap.

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Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly will be with us at one thirty eastern,

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Speaker 2: Adam Carolla at two thirty eastern. Those are our guests.

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Speaker 2: There is a new New York Times poll out showing

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump and Joe Biden are dead even at

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Speaker 2: forty three percent each. Included in that number is a

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Speaker 2: surging amount of support from Hispanic voters. Joe Biden's margin

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Speaker 2: down to just three points according to New York Times

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Speaker 2: poll forty one to thirty eight on Hispanics, Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: with only a thirty nine nine percent approval rate. We

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Speaker 2: will discuss what all of the significance of that is.

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Speaker 2: But as we ended yesterday's program with the Devon Archer testimony,

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Speaker 2: we still have not seen a full transcript, but much

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Speaker 2: of what he has said has been distributed and block.

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Speaker 1: Let's just start here. I saw a story this morning.

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Speaker 2: Devn Archer mentioned forty eight times on CNN and MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump mentioned seven hundred and fifty nine times yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I was curious.

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Speaker 2: I was in the hotel gym, and so I had

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Speaker 2: every one of the television newscast was on in there,

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Speaker 2: and I could see how CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News

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Speaker 2: were all playing the Devon Archer testimony. Not surprisingly, CNN

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Speaker 2: and MSNBC, The New York Times, the Washington Post, they've

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Speaker 2: effectively pretended that this did not exist at all, and

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Speaker 2: they have all engaged in rampant shifting of the storyline

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Speaker 2: such that Buck, I want to play this for you first.

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Speaker 2: This is Dan Goldman, who is a Democrat congressman. He

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Speaker 2: says that I mean, and this is crazy that basically

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Speaker 2: the reason these conversations were going on, and remember they

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Speaker 2: disputed whether there were any conversations going on at all,

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Speaker 2: was because of bo Biden's death.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Bo Biden got very sick in early twenty fifteen. He

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Speaker 3: died in the spring of twenty fifteen, which was right

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Speaker 3: in the middle when Devon Archer had his business dealings

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Speaker 3: with Hunter Biden. At that point, Joe Biden and Hunter

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Speaker 3: Biden began to speak every day because they were both

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Speaker 3: devastated by Bo's death.

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Speaker 1: They spoke every day.

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Speaker 3: The witness testified that over his ten year relationship with

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, there may be approximately twenty times when in

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Speaker 3: one of those conversations, Hunter Biden would put his father

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Speaker 3: at a dinner, not at a business meeting, at a

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Speaker 3: dinner that he was having if he happened to get

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Speaker 3: hold of his father and would ask his father to

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Speaker 3: say hello to whoever was at the table.

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Speaker 1: And that was essentially the extent of it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, So now the dead brother is the

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Speaker 2: reason why they were having phone calls back.

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Speaker 4: You remember the last time we talked about this on

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Speaker 4: this show, I said, the ultimate fallback for Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: from the media, it's always the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's sympathy. Sympathy for Joe has.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can do this for an Everybody has lost,

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Speaker 4: Everybody has pain, Everyone has lost people that mattered them

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Speaker 4: in their lives. Not everyone's President of the United States.

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Speaker 4: Not everybody is held or should be held to a

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Speaker 4: standard of not just wisdom and excellent conduct. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: in the case of Joe Biden, and this is so

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Speaker 4: obviously a massive scam, it's so clear what was going

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Speaker 4: on here that they fall back to try to play

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Speaker 4: the sympathy card. Look, they do it with Hunter, Oh,

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Speaker 4: he's an addict, so we can't criticize him. They do

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Speaker 4: it with Biden throughout his entire life. And Biden loves

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Speaker 4: to deploy and has deployed that card. Remember he claims

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Speaker 4: that he ran for president because his son's last wish

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Speaker 4: was that he run for president. I know, I can't

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Speaker 4: say I wasn't in the room, but that's a very

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Speaker 4: convenient storyline for Joe Biden, who we know lied about

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Speaker 4: what Trump said and the intent of Trump's words in Charlottesville,

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Speaker 4: and use that as another reason for at least another

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Speaker 4: claim about why he was running. But Clay, you know,

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Speaker 4: the issue that they run into here is they've set

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Speaker 4: this standard whereby even the appearance of impropriety for a president,

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Speaker 4: for an elected official, when it's a Republican, is enough, well,

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Speaker 4: in the case of Trump, to impeach, to indict, to

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Speaker 4: do all these things. Where to believe Joe Biden was

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Speaker 4: What they're effectively saying is Joe Biden was engaged in

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Speaker 4: a fraud and the fraud was the bribe that was

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Speaker 4: supposed to lead to action, but was never going to do.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like they're saying, I didn't sell drugs. I

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Speaker 4: didn't sell them weed, I sold them oregano.

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Speaker 1: Well that's not good either. We're going to play some

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Speaker 1: of those cuts.

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Speaker 2: I would just say this, and I would be curious

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Speaker 2: for other business owners out there. Eight hundred and two

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Speaker 2: A two two eight A two. You just heard Goldman say, oh,

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Speaker 2: there are just random twenty calls over the course of

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Speaker 2: their relationship. Twenty calls is a lot for business partners.

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example. I am forty four

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Speaker 2: years old. I have had a variety of different businesses

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Speaker 2: and business ventures in my life. My dad has never

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Speaker 2: business with.

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Speaker 1: Zero times.

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Speaker 2: Now, if I were in business with my dad, that

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Speaker 2: might change. But I think for anyone that has ever

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Speaker 2: been involved in a business, when you hear oh, he

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Speaker 2: just put his dad on the phone when he happened

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Speaker 2: to be engaged in these meetings, because they call so frequently.

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Speaker 1: I've never done that.

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Speaker 2: I bet that most of you out there who run businesses,

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Speaker 2: whether and you might have great relationships with your dad too,

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Speaker 2: you might have had personal loss in your life too.

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Speaker 2: Most people, the difference between their business and their life

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Speaker 2: is fairly substantial, such that it would be pretty weird.

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Speaker 2: I think if I were out to dinner in a

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Speaker 2: He wants to say hi to everybody, and he didn't

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Speaker 2: know anybody in the room at all. What they are selling,

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Speaker 2: Buck is such a lie. And then Devin that they

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Speaker 2: tried to say, oh, he was just calling to ask

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Speaker 2: about the weather and those kind of things. The weather

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Speaker 2: it's cold in Ukraine. Well, I don't care what the

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Speaker 2: weather is in China right now. It doesn't impact me

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Speaker 2: in any way. Joe Biden was a participant in this business, Buck,

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Speaker 2: There's no way they can justify those calls in any

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Speaker 2: other way.

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Speaker 1: Can I just throw out there the.

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Speaker 4: Speed with which they have moved on the Joe and

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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden Global Corruption Tour, The speed with which they

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Speaker 4: have moved from nothing happened, He knew nothing, Joe was

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Speaker 4: never even in contact, No illegality occurred, Joe saying Hunter

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Speaker 4: is the smartest person I've ever known, Joe saying my

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Speaker 4: son did nothing wrong. Turns out he actually committed a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of felonies. That's just a matter of public record.

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Speaker 4: Now we all know that. And Joe also is far

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Speaker 4: more involved. Do you see though, the way the New

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Speaker 4: York Times opened their big piece on this one Clay,

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Speaker 4: This was their line. It has long been known that

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Speaker 4: the elder mister Biden at times interacted with his son's

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Speaker 4: business partners. That is a quote of the New York

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Speaker 4: New York Times audience. The New York Times audience believes

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Speaker 4: that Joe Biden is as innocent as can be and

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Speaker 4: had nothing to do with any of this, because he

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Speaker 4: said so, and it is a huge lie. Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: is a liar. Everybody capital l liar. I believe we

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Speaker 4: have audio. This is from Fox News. It is a

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Speaker 4: montage to build on what you said. Where the New

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Speaker 4: York Times is like, of course he spoke with his

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Speaker 4: son's business partners. It's long been known Here is a

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Speaker 4: Fox News montage of Joe Biden saying, I never discussed

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Speaker 5: I did not know he was on the board of

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Speaker 5: that company. That never discussed my business or their business,

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Speaker 5: my sons or daughters. I never discussed a single thing

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Speaker 5: with my son about anything having to do with the crane.

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Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseis min service.

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Speaker 5: I have never discussed with my son, or my brother

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Speaker 5: or anyone else ending him to do with their businesses. Period.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that is clearly a lie.

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Speaker 2: Also, it would make Joe Biden kind of a jerk, right,

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Speaker 2: I said, I've never had my dad call my business partners,

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Speaker 2: and I've never called him to do that. But I

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Speaker 2: certainly on some level, and I bet most people who

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Speaker 2: doing in their life with their parents. Joe Biden claims

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Speaker 2: he didn't know his son was on the Bearisma board.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is such a flagrant lie. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I if one of my sons were on a major

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Speaker 2: know too. If if I were a politician, buck, it

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Speaker 2: appearance of impropriety, which is incredibly toxic to any sort

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Speaker 2: of legitimacy surrounding politics if it just appears you're on

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's just take this into another realm for

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Speaker 4: a second, one with which you are quite fond of

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Speaker 4: familiar Clay, Imagine that you're looking at a super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl match coming up, right, super Bowl game,

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Speaker 4: and you say to somebody, hey, you know my uncle.

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Speaker 4: We got uncle Bill on later. By the way, Bill

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Speaker 4: Riley would be with us, but he's not the uncle

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Speaker 4: we're talking about here. My uncle is the head referee

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Speaker 4: in the super Bowl. Now, I'm not saying that your

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Speaker 4: down to a couple of close calls. If you give

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Speaker 4: me a million dollars, but why don't I get my

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Speaker 4: we are and how much influence I have with him,

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Speaker 4: and maybe give me a million dollars because down the

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Speaker 4: line we'll figure out some other way to work together.

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Speaker 4: That is one hundred percent analogous to what Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: and Hunter Biden were doing here. It was the perception,

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Speaker 4: the belief among foreign entities that they would be able

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Speaker 4: to leverage Hunter. And let's be clear, you asked me

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Speaker 4: about this claim the context of clandestine operations an espionage.

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Speaker 4: Even the belief that those entities, those foreign adversaries would

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Speaker 4: have had bought influence to to Joe Biden through Hunter,

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Speaker 4: would be able to be used as a leverage point.

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Speaker 4: You know, even if Hunter goes, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 4: my dad's actually not doing anything for you. You know what

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Speaker 4: they say, Well, maybe we talked to some people publicly

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Speaker 4: about the millions of dollars that you took promising that

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Speaker 4: your dad is going to give us favorable treatment in China,

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Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? Even just the the relationship,

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Speaker 4: there is the problem. This is you know, how you

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Speaker 4: recruit people for any number of things around the world,

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Speaker 4: You just get them to start accepting gifts.

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Speaker 2: Well, not only that, remember there's the WhatsApp message where

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Speaker 2: Hunter directly says call me now, and I'm paraphrasing I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting right next to my dad and if you don't

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Speaker 2: pay us immediately, basically there will be held to pay

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Speaker 2: on my word as a Biden and they've proven Buck

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Speaker 2: that he was at Joe Biden's house and that Joe

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Speaker 1: It's extortion.

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Speaker 4: Yes, what Hunter Biden was doing is extortion effectively, when

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Speaker 4: It's it's not just what Joe Biden can do, it's

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm happy that Joe Biden at least

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Speaker 4: Least he now knows how many grandchildren he has. Here

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Speaker 5: Have seven grandkids, four more five Mollien ups to talk

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Speaker 4: Clay, can I just say this this is all tied together.

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Speaker 4: It's not only the pressure of people saying it was

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the illusion that they sold was Biden would

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Speaker 2: Travis Buck Sexton show. Okay, Buck. You mentioned this earlier

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Speaker 2: the New York Times and the way they are covering

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Speaker 2: But I flagged this late last night and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: Had an amazing time, by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, watching the Atlanta Braves play against the Anaheim Angels

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Speaker 2: Devin archers testimony at New York Times was Biden spoke

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Speaker 2: If you are selling to someone the illusion of access,

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Speaker 4: I used to do this back belither or not, when

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Speaker 4: I would squabble with libs over at CNN in twenty

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Speaker 4: you know, Hillary Clinton could go around and Bill Clinton

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Speaker 4: I'm doing finger paintings. Now Hunter Biden actually does that,

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is a joke.

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Speaker 4: But if you look at Clay in this context, and

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Speaker 4: we just talked about this, I think this lays it

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Speaker 4: if pick a popular republic in governor anywhere, right, what

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Speaker 4: If Governor Lee was on video saying, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: Still be a huge ethic scandal. You know, like, you

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Speaker 4: A promise under false pre It is not a get

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about the argument is Hunter Biden didn't

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Speaker 2: first of all, the appearance of impropriety is a standard

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Speaker 2: So the mere even if you accept which is clearly

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden claimed falsely that he was going to provide

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Speaker 2: So this is not only Hunter taking advantage of his father. Right,

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Speaker 2: on the table, seven eight thousand dollars at today's price.

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Speaker 2: Is whatever it is, you have to disclose it, and

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Speaker 2: if you don't, you aren't allowed to be considered impartial

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Speaker 2: in judging that case. Now that's a high standard. That's

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Speaker 2: for judges. We're talking about tens of millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: going to the bidens, and somehow the standard isn't the same.

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Speaker 2: This is beyond the paal, way beyond the pail.

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Speaker 4: I just I have to say, I think that it'll

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Speaker 4: be interesting that the way they're lining this whole thing

446
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Speaker 4: up is there are no criminal charges. There won't be

447
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Speaker 4: any criminal charges. Biden's DOJ comes through once again and

448
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Speaker 4: they're just going to focus on Trump and they think

449
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Speaker 4: that just turns into a referendum on Donald Trump. Multiple

450
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Speaker 4: federal indictments against him. We think the other one, the

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Speaker 4: other federal indictment you know, is coming down likely this week,

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Speaker 4: we don't know.

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Speaker 1: And there's also.

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Speaker 4: You can see this there is not a moment of hesitation,

455
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Speaker 4: not a moment of introspection or any sense of shame

456
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Speaker 4: at the entire Democrat corporate media apparatus, just shifting on

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Speaker 4: all this all of a sudden, All of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: that's oh yeah, okay, so I was talking to him,

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Speaker 4: but I mean it wasn't. We've said this along though

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Speaker 4: it wasn't. Criminal is the only defense that they are

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Speaker 4: going to be left with. And you know what determines

462
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Speaker 4: whether or not it's really criminal, everybody, whether the Attorney

463
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Speaker 4: General of the United States will allow her to be

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Speaker 4: charges brought. Does anyone think that Merrick Garland is going

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Speaker 4: to allow charges against Joe Biden? I mean, as a

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Speaker 4: sitting president, I'm not even sure it's possible, but that

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Speaker 4: he would even recommend such a thing, of course not,

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Speaker 4: there's no chance of it happening. So this is why

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Speaker 4: even with the we got smoking guns all over the place.

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Speaker 4: Now the guns are smoking, but so it was hunter.

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Speaker 4: But there's not a whole lot that anyone's going to

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Speaker 4: look at here, I think, and see changes.

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Speaker 1: Politically as a result of this, because they've.

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Speaker 4: Already set this up where Trump it's all relative in

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Speaker 4: this fight, and they've decided that Trump is Trump needs

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Speaker 4: to go to prison for the rest of his life,

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Speaker 4: and that's really what they want. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: they'll get there, God forbid, hopefully they won't. But I

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Speaker 4: don't know that any of this really changes any of

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Speaker 4: the politics. I don't think you'll play Here's one we

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Speaker 4: could come back to this. Do you think this moves

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Speaker 4: the polls dramatically against Joe Biden. Maybe a couple of points,

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Speaker 4: But I don't think it's going to be some big

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Speaker 4: sea change.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think the challenge and the problem, and this is

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Speaker 2: why I would say impeachment is so necessary is as

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Speaker 2: I said, CNNMSNBC, The New York Times, the Washington Post,

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Speaker 2: they're carrying water to defend the Bidens and so audience. Remember,

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Speaker 2: over half of Democrats still believe that the Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: laptop was Russian disinformation. If you have half of your

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Speaker 2: party believing something that is essence has been disproven for

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Speaker 2: years now, how far down the rabbit hole can you go?

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Speaker 2: If you're starting with the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation,

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Speaker 2: you immediately dismiss all of this because this is building

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Speaker 2: on multiple layers.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: They're so far away from what the truth is that

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Speaker 2: it's hard for them to acknowledge it, which is why

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Speaker 2: primetime hearings might might help to convince some persuadable voters

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Speaker 2: of what's actually going on here. I think, for anyone listening,

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Speaker 2: if you have a neighbor who annoys you about the

503
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Speaker 2: need to recycle and have BLM signs out on their

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Speaker 2: front lawn and has you know, you know, twelve year olds,

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Speaker 2: a couple of them who mysteriously all of a sudden

506
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Speaker 2: are saying that they have to announce their pronouns and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. If you ask that kind of Democrat,

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Speaker 2: that kind of right in the center of the Democrat base.

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Speaker 2: If we had video evidence of Joe Biden just straight up,

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Speaker 2: or any evidence of Joe Biden taking personally money, which

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Speaker 2: that's the next shoe that could drop here. If they

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Speaker 2: find the millions put into his account on this, will

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Speaker 2: that change your mind about Joe Biden. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: the Democrat in this case would say it's fine. As

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Speaker 2: long as he can defeat Donald Trump. We don't care.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where it is, and that's so everyone needs

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Speaker 4: to understand that's the environment we're operating in here. So

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Speaker 4: we'll come back into more of this. Eight hundred two

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Speaker 4: A two two eight ah two Do you think it

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Speaker 4: changes any of this?

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Speaker 1: Let us know. We'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show rolling through

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Speaker 2: the first hour of the program, A lot of you

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Speaker 2: want to weigh in variety of different calls out there

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Speaker 2: as we have been rolling through discussing Devin Archier testimony

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Speaker 2: and the media reaction to it. And I asked, I said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: anybody ever call their dad during a business meeting? And

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Speaker 2: I'm saying if your dad wasn't in any way involved

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Speaker 2: in your business. Obviously, if you and your father and

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Speaker 2: your family or whatever have a business, that's different when

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Speaker 2: you're directly in business partners. By the way, I think

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Speaker 2: that's what was going on with Hunter and Joe. And

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Speaker 2: this is kind of interesting. Mark in California, what do

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Speaker 2: you think about the claim, Oh, they were just calling

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Speaker 2: to check on the weather during business meetings.

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Speaker 6: Not a chance any loving parent wants to know the

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Speaker 6: success of their kids and boast about it, let everybody

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Speaker 6: know how great he's doing. And as a kid who

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Speaker 6: was in that situation, always have my dad wanted to

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Speaker 6: know what was going on, but no intrusively. I would

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Speaker 6: always reach out to him also for advice and just

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Speaker 6: to let him know, hey, Dad, I got another promotion,

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Speaker 6: and then he could go and tell that to the world.

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Speaker 6: It's what they're saying out of the White House is

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Speaker 6: complete bs opposite of what goes on. They want to

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Speaker 6: be involved, and as a parent now who has two

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Speaker 6: kids about ready to get into their professional lives, I

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Speaker 6: want to make sure I'm given the advice and understanding

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Speaker 6: what decisions they're making, and again not getting too intrusive

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Speaker 6: in their life or getting him mad at me. But

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Speaker 6: they want to share that stuff because we did the

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Speaker 6: right job in raising them. And if the Biden's are

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Speaker 6: so loving, wouldn't that be the same case.

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Speaker 1: So it's a great point.

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Speaker 2: They're actually arguing, thank you for the call, Buck, And

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Speaker 2: I'm with my three boys down in Atlanta right now.

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Speaker 2: I love if I get a chance to brag about

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Speaker 2: what they're able to do now they're still young, but

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden buck simultaneously claims the reason why he is

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Speaker 2: involved with Hunter so much is because he's a loving

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Speaker 2: father and it's important for him to be involved with

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Speaker 2: his son, and then simultaneously says he knows nothing about

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Speaker 2: the millions of dollars that his son is making. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't add up just based on that, to say nothing

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Speaker 2: of anybody who's ever been involved in a business meeting.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen somebody call their dad in a business meeting.

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Speaker 1: Also, I do think it worth noting.

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Speaker 4: As much as we talk about how Joe Biden is inept,

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Speaker 4: in decrepit and too old and all of that, I

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Speaker 4: mean a guy, and some of this was going on

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Speaker 4: some years ago when he was much more with it

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Speaker 4: than he is now. He's been a US he's been

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Speaker 4: a United States Senator for like over forty years. The

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Speaker 4: guy was vice president for eight years. Does anybody think

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Speaker 4: for one second that if they had a dad who

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Speaker 4: was number two in the executive branch of the United

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Speaker 4: States Government and had a fifty year career in federal politics,

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Speaker 4: that they wouldn't talk to him about business dealings abroad

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Speaker 4: like that's it's not like it's not like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden is a park ranger.

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Speaker 1: No offense to park rangers, but.

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Speaker 4: You know it's you know, the guy has expertise and

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Speaker 4: obviously connections that are directly relevant to exactly what Hunter

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Speaker 4: Biden was trying to do.

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Speaker 1: It's just there's just no way. But it's almost like

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Speaker 1: a waste for us.

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Speaker 4: Anyone who says they weren't talking about businesses lying obviously

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Speaker 4: also yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Buck And I say this again as a dad, and

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Speaker 2: I bet there are a lot of people out there

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Speaker 2: and dads and moms who can speak to this. I've

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Speaker 2: been out to dinner, for instance, a lot of times

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Speaker 2: for business and I might look down and be like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's bedtime for my kids, or oh, I want to

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Speaker 2: talk to my wife before she goes to bed or

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Speaker 2: before the.

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Speaker 1: Kids go do something. What do you do if you

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Speaker 1: want to have a personal call, You.

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Speaker 2: Leave the room and go stand out in the hallway,

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Speaker 2: or you go stand out on the street. Like you

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Speaker 2: don't have a family conversation typically sitting at the table

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Speaker 2: right the only reason you would have a call that

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Speaker 2: you want everybody to hear is because your dad is

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Speaker 2: directly involved in the business. Michael and Davenport, Iowa. What

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Speaker 2: do you think about this story of oh, he was

627
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Speaker 2: just calling about the weather.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, So the biggest thing I actually work for

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Speaker 7: a small company and I see day to day interactions

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Speaker 7: between the dad who owns the company and the two

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Speaker 7: sons that they do all the running of it. And

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Speaker 7: the big thing is is, yeah, they're small talk on

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Speaker 7: the company. But the dad even came in. He's like,

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Speaker 7: I'm just wanted it. You guys run it, you guys

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Speaker 7: do your thing. It would never be a thing where

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Speaker 7: the sons call a supplier and like, you know what,

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Speaker 7: let me get my dad on the phone. He'll he'll

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Speaker 7: talk some sense India. It's like he wants the supplier

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Speaker 7: would laugh at us. I mean the fact that no

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Speaker 7: calls ever can.

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Speaker 2: It actually makes a great point. It actually demeans your authority.

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Speaker 2: If you're in a business meeting and you're like, let

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Speaker 2: me call my daddy and see what he says, it's like,

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Speaker 2: are you running the business or is your dad? It's

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Speaker 2: actually the opposite of in any kind of way legitimizing you.

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Speaker 1: For most people, right, that's a good pace.

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Speaker 4: One of the objections are one of the things that

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Speaker 4: teach people in like aggressive sales training.

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Speaker 1: If you've seen the movie boiler Room, they get into.

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Speaker 4: Is when a guy goes I would buy the stock,

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Speaker 4: but I got to talk to my wife. It's oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, sir. Who makes the decisions here? You know,

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Speaker 4: like they love to I got to talk to my

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Speaker 4: dad first. Well, if he's your business partner, you do,

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Speaker 4: that makes sense. But if he's just your dad, Yeah, Clay,

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Speaker 4: we know exactly what's going on here, and now it's

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Speaker 4: a question of what Republicans will do with it. Will

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Speaker 4: they impeach, will they move, will they care enough to

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Speaker 4: actually take some kind of action? The illegal immigrant situation

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Speaker 4: New York City, Clay, I want to talk about that.

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Speaker 4: It is literally spilling out into the streets. And Bill

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Speaker 4: O'Reilly's gonna be joining us.

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Speaker 1: Stick around,