WEBVTT - Donte Stallworth

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do it. They's getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard am about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're about to let you know. It's all. Made

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<v Speaker 1>it through the weekend. It was pretty good. Made it through. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>some people don't make it. So made made it through

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<v Speaker 1>and weekend. Like we ain't supposed to be celebratory. You

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<v Speaker 1>made it through, like you're supposed to make it through

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<v Speaker 1>the work week. Yeah. Sometimes though that the weekend if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a husband or dad and you know you got

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<v Speaker 1>more work. Yeah. So sometimes it's like sports activity, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Yeah, so it doesn't Sometimes you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait your structure combs. Yeah. Right, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I say said made it true. It's not not bad,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just but then you find yourself tired, right because

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<v Speaker 1>if you just want to go, we just want to

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<v Speaker 1>get home, Like for me this weekend, you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to go you want to get home, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>watch some NBA playoffs? Dumb, My bad man Steve Context

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<v Speaker 1>is a is a Clippers fan. Yes, so you to punish. Stop,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been broke. I mean the facts of the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>But do I not ride with my teail you dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's that's that's definitely a fact. You rock

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers at you rocked the and there's no and

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<v Speaker 1>it's no knock against the Clippers. But but I'm excited. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I this is the furthest they've been. They've never been

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<v Speaker 1>to a conference finals. Right, well, we ain't going no further.

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<v Speaker 1>We you know what, I'm playing playoff p He's showing

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<v Speaker 1>up though, I mean, just not on the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, stop. Did you hear what Shannon Shark said

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<v Speaker 1>about He called him poly est? You know why because

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<v Speaker 1>when you heat poly esd up, it melts meat on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He melts Come on playoff playoff, it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>much different series if Kawal Leonard was I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>may be a worst series. I'd love to hear your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on why you think that. We look at all

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<v Speaker 1>these guys that are getting together with other superstars. Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not a huge fan of Leonard just

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<v Speaker 1>in general or of him coming coming to say hypothely,

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<v Speaker 1>come to the Lakers, I mean the Clippers, because Dame

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<v Speaker 1>is such an ice sol player. He could give you fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't play defense right. And if he when

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<v Speaker 1>he goes in those fifty points, when he's going cold,

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<v Speaker 1>when he goes cold and he's shooting a thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>footer is dunking off the rim and the other team

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<v Speaker 1>is getting a ball and spreading down the transition and transition.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're gonna have those type of all stars,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have some of those all stars. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have your specialists. And I think teams are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see that. If you're gonna have some specialists, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have guys to show up on both end of today's NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta have those guys there even And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Clippers rousso overall. The only thing I've

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<v Speaker 1>always come to is is Paul George and Kauai too similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you know what I'm saying, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>have you have Lebron and a D. Complimentary players. A

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<v Speaker 1>D can do some things. Lebron can do. Lebron can

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<v Speaker 1>do some things they they can't do. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>even though Brooklyn got eliminated, You look at Katie and James,

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<v Speaker 1>Harden and Kyrie. They all do something. They all do

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<v Speaker 1>things that are similar, but then they all have distinct differences. Heye,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Kauai and Paul George are very similar. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Paul George plays just as good of defense.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good defensive player. Yeah. So, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, like complimentary. This is the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I see with with that particular duo that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not that complementary. It's almost like washing rintchs repeat, we

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<v Speaker 1>got the same guy that you know what, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like though he seemed to play better as the head

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<v Speaker 1>guy versus Paul. Absolutely agree with that. He seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be outstanding batman. He has gotten lost in translation in

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<v Speaker 1>the game of being a robin and everybody can't do that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember how much Chris Bosh struggle when Lebron came to

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<v Speaker 1>the Heat. It was, it was it's different when you're

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<v Speaker 1>used to being the guy who gets buckets and then

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have to take the second seat or with

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<v Speaker 1>Chris bosh that third seat, SA. I'm really I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball fan that knows zero about basketball. We we always

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<v Speaker 1>joke about this, like when we're chilling. You know more

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<v Speaker 1>about basketball, but I don't. I don't feel confident talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I look at it purely from a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even look at statistics anymore. I just look

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<v Speaker 1>at like I watched a guy play. I'm really surprised

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<v Speaker 1>how James Harten morphed his game, right. I also look

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<v Speaker 1>at people are talking about Kevin during he can't win

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<v Speaker 1>the big one. He carried that team, he missed the shot, Okay, great.

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<v Speaker 1>I just look at it purely as a not as appears,

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<v Speaker 1>not as someone who knows the game, not as athleticism

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<v Speaker 1>being an athlete. I just kind of go, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching basketball. I love I love playoff basketball. Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch every single playoff game. My wife knows when

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs are on. I'm watching unless it becomes like a

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<v Speaker 1>complete beat down, like the like that Hawks game the

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<v Speaker 1>other night, which a man, how about the Hawks? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting? Where you say that's interesting because you have

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach that didn't want the job, an interim

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, and they didn't really want to give them

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<v Speaker 1>the job. They ran out the other guy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I find it extremely interesting with Trey Young. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the part about sports that you gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>careful of when you draft your franchise. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>allow who's gonna coach by how they work with one individual,

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<v Speaker 1>and one individual doesn't buy into it, he doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>how he's being coached. And then that guy gets fired.

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<v Speaker 1>And then now you see, you know, quote unquote, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give him the buy in he signed that check right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then now you got a guy Holiday Holiday is

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<v Speaker 1>putting them paws on it. If he's always Holiday is

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive monster, that's what you want him to do. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>But I find it interested in is now But tray

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<v Speaker 1>st he's still getting how many uses? Some buckets? Some buckets.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying is he's a young guy who

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<v Speaker 1>still needs to develop. Will he be a superstar? I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see can he can? Can he come out

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<v Speaker 1>next year and start where he finished in the playoffs. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. I also think they've got uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they got they got a sneaky good roster too. Spircher

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<v Speaker 1>is archer. I don't know how to pronounce that. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's been good. Collins is a good player. Cappella

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<v Speaker 1>many they gotta it's not just Trey Young and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else like they have. They have a pretty Solidit a

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<v Speaker 1>random thought of capella and the time I'm going, does

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<v Speaker 1>he dye his hair? And that right? Because darn that

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<v Speaker 1>looks good? Spree pa just that on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>baalty just get you, just get you can Just like

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I say I am so checked out as

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<v Speaker 1>far as an analyst of basketball. I just look at

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<v Speaker 1>it just as a fan, like okay, so as a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>who would you who would you like to see in

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<v Speaker 1>the finals? So I would like to see Milwaukee in

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<v Speaker 1>the finals because they're a small market team. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to deal with Janice being a champion and him

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<v Speaker 1>being a champion at such a all. He's still raw

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<v Speaker 1>very much so and he becomes a champion, then people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna let off on him and he does He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be held to that that that that standard up.

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<v Speaker 1>He still needs to improve because now he has that ring,

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<v Speaker 1>right And I say that and people listening because I hear,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear, well, this guy he's a super Bowl champion. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but the brother can't make a free throw? Yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>n but but it always comes back to I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there is a different standard for some of these

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<v Speaker 1>younger players today than it was for the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>came out like in the early two thousand's, like the Lebrons,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Chris Paul's, who you know, maybe going to

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<v Speaker 1>the finals, but those guys were ringer, not ring Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they they up the up, but three one then

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<v Speaker 1>cat check. But you know what I'm saying, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have always felt like the uh, this last regime of superstars,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lebrons, the Chris Paul's, the Carmelo Anthony's, it was

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<v Speaker 1>do you got a ring or not? KD A little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on on the fringe of that. He's got to

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<v Speaker 1>your point like this this kind of next tier generation

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<v Speaker 1>of your Westbrooks, your Hardens, Janice, like we they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really come under that kind of fire at least. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a conversation with me and the fellows were

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<v Speaker 1>just having like it's it's been a I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say drop off, but it's a different type of

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<v Speaker 1>criticism that they get someone to. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not to make it football versus basketball. But

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<v Speaker 1>it has been times when you look at it is

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<v Speaker 1>what does he have a ring? Well? What else? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So I get what you're saying. So I just see

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<v Speaker 1>Yannice as I say, ideal. I think it'll be cool

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee and who I got the Phoenix I want. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that be the most that'd be the most balanced match.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I am worried about though, with Kauai reading

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<v Speaker 1>the reports, him and the injury, why don't they just

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<v Speaker 1>rule him out? I don't get it, him and the

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<v Speaker 1>injury and him becoming a free agent and knowing how

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<v Speaker 1>he operates with injuries and he's coming back. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've wondered that. But it's it's it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some stuff at coming and we went through

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<v Speaker 1>that before, all right, mill and I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Milwaukee Phoenix, what's We'll see what happens. Man, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be it would be nice balance to seven games.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if holiday can hang with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm rooting for that. I'm rooting for my

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<v Speaker 1>guy North Carolina, North Carolina born Chris Paul. I want

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<v Speaker 1>him to get a ring. I wanted to get a ring.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a cheer for North Carolina. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being I'm being non biased. I want the sun somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what. That's what. Who we got coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on the Cut to It Podcast, We've got Dante Stalworth,

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran NFL wide receiver and a native of Sacramento, California.

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<v Speaker 1>He's turned into a journalist, contributing to The Humpington's Post,

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times, and CNN. Dante Starworth on the

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to It Podcast first segment. It's called get Ice Up. Random.

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<v Speaker 1>Iceberger questions, we gotta get you loose. You know Smithy

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<v Speaker 1>very well. You don't know what duration is gonna go in. Smithy,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and give him the first one. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>what sports do you enjoy watching other than football? Mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good question. Um, Listen, I ran track in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, so I definitely enjoyed watching track. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>was terrible in high school at basketball, but I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>watching Hey, no, I've watched I've watched Dante and he's

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<v Speaker 1>very finesse, and he's extremely fast, and sometimes he could

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<v Speaker 1>be out of control. Okay, so like a Westbrook almost

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<v Speaker 1>no yeah. I tried to lay it up. What is

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<v Speaker 1>something that always makes you laugh? Family Guy? The show

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<v Speaker 1>Family Guy, the TV show Family Guy. I never seen

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<v Speaker 1>the show? Is that like what the big fat dude

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<v Speaker 1>and a little kid with the big hit? Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What what? What? What's so funny about the show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's so inappropriate that sometimes you just gotta laugh. You

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<v Speaker 1>would enjoy it, actually, all right, you know it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it's kind of like the yeah you should you

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<v Speaker 1>should definitely put it in rotation. No, no, I put

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of my list that I probably will

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<v Speaker 1>never chance. It just doesn't seem like the show. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, because my guy shut out, I'll I'll

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<v Speaker 1>check out an episode or two. I probably should give

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<v Speaker 1>it two episodes because I'm already walking in there going

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, yeah, you're You're not even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it past the credits. He's just short change me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me you know, let me hand stand the time

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<v Speaker 1>that that was germs. So what is your biggest pet peeve?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like being in wet clothes. Like I love

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<v Speaker 1>to run run outside, but when it's raining, I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it. Wet socks, wet clothes. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>have them off. There's something about wet clothes and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't like having on all. Right. Last one, um,

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<v Speaker 1>family traditions. One of the best things for me, especially

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<v Speaker 1>growing up as a kid, was always my mother cooking

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<v Speaker 1>at Thanksgiving. We would have number of family members. We

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<v Speaker 1>have big family. My my dad had eleven brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can just imagine how many cousins and relatives

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<v Speaker 1>we had just on my dad's side alone. So my

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<v Speaker 1>mother would cook for everyone and uh, and she cooks

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<v Speaker 1>really well, and so everyone would come over and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of our way, or at least her

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<v Speaker 1>way of just you know, bringing the family together. And

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<v Speaker 1>even family who were hanging out, you know, at their

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<v Speaker 1>own homes or went to see other families, they were

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<v Speaker 1>always welcome to come and get a plate. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was always spades and dominoes, playing in basketball, uh, playing outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I never played basketball, but I was always ready to

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<v Speaker 1>race anybody, um in the streets, you know, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we we had that. That family tradition was always

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<v Speaker 1>something that that has always uh, you know, brought back

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<v Speaker 1>good memories. How do you play Spade, Dante? You play Joka? Joker. Dudes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's yea proper way. All right, let's move on. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So who's your favorite who is your favorite team? Growing up? Football?

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball doesn't matter. The San Francisco forty Niners. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a freshman in high school and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>year that um that we the year before when I say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>am speaking of the Sampsons for Fort ninus in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and nineties. So we had we had just lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the Dallas Cowboys at home in Candlestick. Uh, Emma

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<v Speaker 1>Smith ran all over as Michael Irvin, Alvin Harper had

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<v Speaker 1>some big plays and j Novcheck obviously coming through in

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<v Speaker 1>the clutch on third downs, and the defense was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next year we we made some changes. We

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<v Speaker 1>brought in Gary Plummer, We bought in Ken Norton from Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>We brought in uh the incompartable Dion Sanders, who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the team until Week three against the

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<v Speaker 1>Saint type of And at this time I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the roster of every team I knew every coach

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<v Speaker 1>had told you. So that was the tip man. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a team Dallas, Dallas, San Francisco, Philly. Um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when everything went through the NFC. Whoever NFC one, we're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much when within the championship, that's so who else

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<v Speaker 1>uh the Packers with with Sterling, then you have Philly

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<v Speaker 1>Um when they had Keith Buyers and left handed throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the throwing a little tall suite tall suite pass have

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<v Speaker 1>back passed and they had Charlie Garner right um, just

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<v Speaker 1>all the different players man. So then that the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>Championship always went through the NFC, right if you a

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<v Speaker 1>ANFC teams ever had had a chance. I still have

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<v Speaker 1>every game on VHS, by the way, recorded every game

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<v Speaker 1>that's with the current week, all of it, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Actually you know what I used to pause.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to hit the I used to hit the

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<v Speaker 1>pause button just to save um, to save tape on

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that tape, because the tape would only

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<v Speaker 1>if you recorded it on h SP, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>highest quality at the take up a lot of tape,

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<v Speaker 1>pick up three hours. So I would get one game

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<v Speaker 1>each VHS tape. And that was that was my allowance

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<v Speaker 1>when I whenever I happened, I would save up for

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<v Speaker 1>VHS tapes and posters are hanging my room. That was

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<v Speaker 1>that was whatever I had, whatever I had spent my

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<v Speaker 1>money on. Who's your favorite athlete? Growing up as a kid?

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<v Speaker 1>Who any sport? My favor? Yeah, my soul, my favorite athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a big football fan. Football was like nine

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent give the other two per cent was honestly

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<v Speaker 1>was probably history and science. I was. I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a nerd as a kid, and I enjoyed, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>learning about world history, learning about American history. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the A lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I that I grew up and even today still are

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<v Speaker 1>things that I kind of harkened back to my childhood with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know which his history. I write about politics and

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<v Speaker 1>the history of politics, the history of sports, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's all come kind of connected. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would say probably my favorite athletes was I would have

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<v Speaker 1>to say Dion. I was thinking between um, because my

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<v Speaker 1>four favorite football players were we're really in no order. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>probably between Dion, Dion, Jerry, Barry Sanders, and Bo Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>were my four and those are my Those are my

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<v Speaker 1>guys right there. Yeah. I actually saw Jerry We can

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<v Speaker 1>get to that later, but I actually saw Jerry Rice

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, and um, he called the police on me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I stopped because I was talking about years old.

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<v Speaker 1>We need we need that story. I'm like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about that. No, he didn't, he didn't call

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<v Speaker 1>the police on me. It was their training camp. It

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<v Speaker 1>was their training camp that we were in Rockland, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was with a high school teammate of mine who

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<v Speaker 1>lived north of Rockland. And I'm from Sacramento. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was going, uh, you know, to his home and um

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<v Speaker 1>in Grass Valley. Huh, You're going to Garry's home. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, my my high school quarterback. I actually didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that when I was calling the police and then

0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I was in the bush. So I'll give you the

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<v Speaker 1>quicker version. So the quicker version is, as we're driving

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<v Speaker 1>by Rockland, this is during the summer, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>right around the time when training campus it's starting. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I knew everything about Jay Rice, who was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite players, one of my prob you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite athletes. So I knew that his

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<v Speaker 1>wife's name was Jackie. I knew that, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew his family dynamic. Anything about jer Rice

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<v Speaker 1>I had read about because I loved him so much

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.119
<v Speaker 1>as a kid and so as as we were stopping

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<v Speaker 1>to get gas. In front of us, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little convertibles like a blueish Mercedes with the license plate

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<v Speaker 1>that said something like for you Jackie or Jackie. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember looking like, oh, that's Jay Rice's wife's name.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I looked at the person in the car

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<v Speaker 1>which I was behind, and I'm like, yo, that's Jerry

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and and my and my teammate was like, how can

0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you tell us? Jerrys in back of his hand, like, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that being head, that's Jerry Rice. Bro follow him.

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<v Speaker 1>So we followed him years old. That is my favorite criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Begin follow him right, follow I got it. I got

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<v Speaker 1>his plate right right right right on a banker. But

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't North South. As for me, it was my

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<v Speaker 1>deductive reasoning that we were in Rockland, its training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Mercedes Bens. Jackie's a license plate that's his

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<v Speaker 1>wife's name. And I know Jerry. I know the back

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<v Speaker 1>of Jerry Rice's head, the African American man. Hey, but

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, like, so we we didn't even get gas.

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<v Speaker 1>We followed Jerry right so I think you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're in this beat up We're in this beat up

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<v Speaker 1>pick up truck right, and he just sees two guys

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<v Speaker 1>following him. So he's in his mind. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not thinking this at a time. I'm fifteen years old, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my idol. I'm going to like say hi

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<v Speaker 1>to him. So oh yeah, I was, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah I was. I was all. I was all

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So we we pulled in. He pulled in, which,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there were a lot of cars, and I

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<v Speaker 1>figured this was the you know, the the four niners,

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 1>uh parking only forty niners only parking. But we followed

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>him in and then so he drove around the parking

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>lot inside, so we stopped right because they were like, okay,

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>we're following. We're actually like following him following. Now, let's

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 1>just pull over here and and wait till he gets

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<v Speaker 1>out of his car. So he parks up close, and

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>as we see him park up close, we get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the car to start walking towards me. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably about fifty yards away from the entrance where he's

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<v Speaker 1>walking into. Jerry's out of his car and he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>in our direction and he's pointing at us to security,

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<v Speaker 1>and security is like looking at us as we're walking up,

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<v Speaker 1>and so then the security starts walking towards us, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry walks in the building and he's like, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can't be in here. And we were like, oh,

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>we just wanted to say hi to Jerry. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>like that, so that's fine, I understand it, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to be in here. And so we left

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't like, oh, I just thought Jerry right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh my god, I just said,

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>what's up to Jerry? Rights? That was my story. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had met my I don't and and of course

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I had like exaggerated the whole encounter. I didn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that we stopped him partially, but um yeah, he

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.639
<v Speaker 1>like he was like, yo, he's probably like, Yo, these

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>dudes right here have followed me from this light, and

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<v Speaker 1>y'all need to make sure that you know they're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run up in here and try to do whatever.

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so he didn't necessarily call the police on

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>the ends. That was obviously hyperboly, but um no, he

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<v Speaker 1>did what you know, any self aware of human being

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<v Speaker 1>would have done when you had two people following you

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<v Speaker 1>to a Podcast dot Com. We obviously know you grew

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>up in northern California, so that's a great transition. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me where are you from in the place

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<v Speaker 1>you call your hometown Ontown is Sacramento, California, North area.

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<v Speaker 1>Um went to Grant High School and you know we

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<v Speaker 1>were called the Grant High Pacers Blue and Gold, and

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<v Speaker 1>we we have you know a number of players from

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>my high school who have played in in our plane. Um,

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you know in in the NFL. Now Shaq Thompson obviously

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>from the Carolina Panthers. He's been holding it down and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just it's just been great to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not not just from Sact, not just from

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<v Speaker 1>California or I'm sorry, from my high school, but just

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, Sacramento and in the Sacramento surrounding areas.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of a lot of professional athletes, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of NFL players are coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the area, and it's just it's been fun to sit

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<v Speaker 1>back and watch these guys grow as as humans, as

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<v Speaker 1>people and as as NFL players. Growing up, growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in Sacramento. Now you're older, living in d C. You

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>travel New England, New Orleans, Baltimore, all these different places. Miami. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you say, with all that you've experienced and

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<v Speaker 1>seen in your adulthood, how would you categorize Sacramento impacting

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<v Speaker 1>uh the way you the way you see the world

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<v Speaker 1>today and just how you are, uh based on all

0:26:55.640 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 1>your experiences, uh seeing all those different places. I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just being born and raised in Sacramento. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my my mother did did a great job of of

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<v Speaker 1>raising us. Uh. I have three other brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, if my mother was very grounded and

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.479
<v Speaker 1>uh and in Christianity, and so she instilled a lot

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>of that in us. And also Mama didn't play. She

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 1>had the belt or statuela or whatever else was man

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to tie in that spirituality, that religious those religious teachings

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>with the belt. Um. And a lot of that comes from, uh,

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, just just my my upbringing being in Sacramento scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, being being in Sacramento, but also realizing

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that um that the that the world was a lot

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>bigger than Sacramento. So I don't think that it, uh

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<v Speaker 1>that it impacted me in a in any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a negative sense. I think that, you know, growing up

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>where you know, Sacramento, there, like any other inner city,

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>there are gangs and drugs and violence, and uh my,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up growing up in Sacramento where I

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>grew up in high school that I went to, that

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>was not immune from any of those things. But you know,

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just the sense of community that we have in Sacramento, Um,

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the sense of brotherhood. I think a lot of that.

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>It all surrounded around my high school football team, and

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that more than anything, brought a lot of people together.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 1>So I understood at a young age how how important

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>sports were bringing people together. And I think that that

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that stayed with me, you know, through all my travels,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh in throughout the NFL and college post

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>NFL politics. I think is as as divisive as we've

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>become as a nation. Um. I think the one thing

0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that people can can can all agree on is how

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>much football has has played an integral part. No, you know,

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>no matter what your politics are, no matter what your

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>political ideology or alliances are. I think when when people

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>people get you know, football game, you know, it's all

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>about their team versus your team. And somehow I've I've

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, no one has mastered it, but you know,

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>somehow you try to find a connection between you know,

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>what we can do as as a nation to to

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to to build a better cohesive, egalitarian society where where

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>people can get along, you know, with different political ideologies

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>at a football game, but take that to the next

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>step and where they can get along and uh and

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and try to try to progress together as as a

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>nation instead of being extremely divisive as we are. Where

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>did your where did your thirst for knowledge come from?

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>When you men and you're big in history, science education,

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Where did that thirst of knowledge come from? You know

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>what I don't know, Man's it's just it's as long

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>as I can remember, I was always UH as a kid,

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I used to read the encyclopedias that we had at home.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I would always in the libraries UH that we would have,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and and we would go to like, you know, as

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a kid in the elementary school, I would always check

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>out like the Greek mythology books, the ancient Ancient Egypt.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I loved reading about hieroglyphics and just all these things

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>about world history. And I honestly, I don't know where

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it came from, but I but I do know that

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>my parents helped foster that by um, you know, giving

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>me books, buying me a telescope before they brought me

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>in football. UM, all these things kind of kind of

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>nurtured my curiosity. And UH, I think probably the biggest

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>thing that that enabled me to understand how big the

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>world was was that I was enamored with UM, with astronomy,

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>with space, learning about the planets. So I knew that,

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, starting off as a kid, I knew that

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the world was bigger than Sacramento, UM. And and and

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that I think I believe that directly came from my

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>love of learning about the planets and learning about how

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>how different planets operate and why they are, the colors

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>they are, the size of they are, these different things.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh intrigued me as a kid, and um, it just

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of my intellectual curiosity blossomed as a child, and

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's it's I think it's still there.

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>It's something that you know, I always enjoyed learning about

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>more things, more history. There's there's so much that that's

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>out there to be learned, and no one can know everything.

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>So we're on a constant journey of learning no matter

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>how old we get. Do you did you travel a

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>lot when you were younger? Uh, in my mind, I did.

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't have the means too. But when

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I when I did have the means, I actually did

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>him until probably a few years after I was in

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I didn't get my passport till until it

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>really until I was forced to because when we were

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>when I was playing for the Patriots in two thousand

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and seven, we were supposed to go to China to

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>play a preseason game, and so we had to make

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>sure that everyone had passports, and I did not. No,

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I did that my passport at that time. I just

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I just got my passport. Um before free

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>agency started. I'm sorry. So Um, and I didn't travel

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>actually until that off season. I was the first time

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that I had traveled. And I went to Spain. Actually

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and Reggie Bush went together. Um he was shooting the

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>commercial with David Beckham, so he had to be up

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>at six thirty in the morning every you know, every

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>day for the first three or four days. And I

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>was just out just out seeing you know, mad Yeah,

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I had some fun, you know, I

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>was I had to word that was a key word,

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like he's not gonna lie, but he's not gonna incriminate

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the show. Again. This great discussion. Man, let's get right.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's jump right into your career. Because you were

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>drafted in the first round. You went to Tennessee, and

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get into that. Man, with the University of Tennessee,

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the volunteers and b you're on a I look at

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the roster or some of the players and you were

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>or danged to just get the opportunity to play in

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the league because you're you were playing with some guys

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that just are remarkable. But we'll get to that later

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>overall pick to the New Orleans Saints. You play excellent,

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You had a great career, has some hard work, has

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>some hard times, you know, But I really want to

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>get into the thing that changed your life forever, right

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and and and um and the reason I say and

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>why I want to jump into that because a lot

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of times when us after each when we make mistakes,

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>so many people feel when whenever we say something, they

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>only bring that up to almost shut us up, to

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>tell us, well you did this show, shut the blank

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>up and the humanize you. And so I wanted you

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to take us through that because when I also know

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know to to that's your mission and you it

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>has impacted you, and you're very forthright with that information

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>if you spoke to a number of teams, and so

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I want I want our audience to hear your story

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and what and what it what it? What it is done?

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>How how has it impacted both families? And you know

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and what you what you have to deal with just

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>your part and now the family has to deal with

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>they have to but what you have to deal with

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>your part every single day. So uh, this was the

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>off season in two thousand nine. I was coming off

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of um my worst year, UH career wise and football,

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I had been hurt. Um, you know, I had I

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of muscle injuries, and I just you know,

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 1>speed is my game. So I wasn't able to utilize

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>my speed, which kind of rendered me useless for the season. Uh,

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and even in the games, the few games that I

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>did playing. And I had just signed the seven year,

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty five million dollar deal with the Cleveland Browns, and

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>there it was a ten million and guarantees. And you know,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I think I end up catching like seventeen passes that year,

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was, I was just I was utterly useless

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>in my in my own mind, and so I knew

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that I had to get back on track. I didn't

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>want to. I felt like I had let my teammates down.

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I had let myself down. And so

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to work my way back into the best

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>shape that I had ever been in so I could

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>come out and help my team win some games and

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and and play be the be the play there that

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>they had paid me. The week and so the last,

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the last weekend before everyone was heading back to their

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.439
<v Speaker 1>respective teams to to start there. UH, their off season

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>program in two thousand nine. Uh, there was a lot

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of guys we would we would trained down in South Florida,

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>specifically in Miami, and you know, we trained really hard

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 1>that Friday. Fridays are always you know, the hard days,

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>So we trained really hard than a couple of guys. Uh,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, ended up leaving, leaving from the from the

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>place where we work out. I went to go grab

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a bite to eat. Uh, then so I got a

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>boy to even. I end up getting home about seven

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. I went upstairs. I was so tired from

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the day because I had, you know, expended so much

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>energy on that Friday workout, and I knew that I

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 1>had to get ready to go that Sunday to go

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to Cleveland to start the off season program. So I

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.959
<v Speaker 1>ended up falling to sleep, and I got a phone

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>call about a order the two two o'clock from a

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>teammate of mine asking me to come hang out with

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>him for his birthday. There was a lot of guys

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that was gonna be there, and uh so we were

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>all gonna kind of meet up and you know, have

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>one last drink before we all left to go to

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>our respective team to work out. So I got there.

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, I got up, showered, went to the club.

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I got there, I had a few drinks, um, and

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I was there for probably a few hours. And then

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>so I got home about I don't remember what time

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>it was, every five thirty thirty in the morning, and

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I went to sleep. I got home, fell asleep, and

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I woke up around seven o'clock, close to seven, and

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any food in my home. I can't

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 1>cook or I couldn't cook at the time, so I

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any food. And the only place that I

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>knew that was opened was a place on the beach

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>called News Cafe, and I was in this time. I

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 1>had just my my condo had just finished being built

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in Miami, so I was living right across the bridge,

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>uh and downtown Miami, which is right across from the

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 1>American Airlines anywhere the Miami Heat played. So this only

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 1>the only place that I knew that was open. Uh

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was still dark out, so I was

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>just gonna go to this place, and I was texting

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>other friends seeing if they were up to meet me there.

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>No one was up, so UM, I ended up driving

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>across the bridge and that was when I encountered um

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Mr yas running across the highway, and by the time

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I could really uh you know, react or anything, I

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>had hit him. And you know, there was there was

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>so much uh misinformation that initially in initial reports, people

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>were saying that I or the reporters were saying I

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 1>was going eighty miles an hour, said that I ran

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>onto a curb, ran a red light, which none of

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>those things, uh we're true. But I just, you know,

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really care about that. I just wanted, initially

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know that that the man that I had

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>just hit with my car was okay. And I didn't

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get any notification from the police. They didn't

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 1>tell me anything until I waved my Miranda rights and

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>went down to the which any attorney will tell you

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>never to do. But I didn't feel I was. I

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>felt like I was not trying to hide anything. I

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>wanted to help whatever they needed um and so I

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>waved my Miranda rights, went down to the police station

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and gave my statement. But you know, right before I

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>gave my statement, the lead investigator of of of that

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>case came out and told me that after I had

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>asked him multiple times prior he came out and told

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>me that that Mr. Yez didn't make it. And so

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I I, as any normal human being would do.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I broke down crime because I was like, not because

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>of of you know, any trouble that I had thought

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that I was in. It was because you got some

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>heavy information in which you were you were the driver,

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and it was part of your participation, right right. And

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and that hit me, man, because you know, I was

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a kind of guy like I. You know, I pretty

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>much got along with everyone. I had never been in

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a fight, you know, in my life, I didn't mess

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>with anybody. Nobody really messed with me. So I was

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>just you know, so I wasn't you know, I wasn't

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.879
<v Speaker 1>that kind of guy and uh, you know, to ever

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>like even want to like even harm anyone in a

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>physical fight or anything. So this that really hit me hard.

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>And um, you know, and and obviously I was concerned

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>about I didn't know anything about Mr. Reys, but I

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I I obviously understood that, uh you know, as time

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>went on, that he had a family that he was

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I had a fifteen year old daughter and

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>obviously you know had parents and uh and siblings, so uh,

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that was that was that was hard. It was, it was.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>It was a very difficult time for me, uh, you know,

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>dealing with with and coming to terms with all of that.

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think, uh, two weeks later, I gave my

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>first statement publicly, and afterwards I was not allowed to

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 1>communicate with the family directly. We were we had to

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>communicate through the channels of my attorney with their attorney.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>And they wanted my attorney to know the family of Mr.

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Rez wanted my attorney to know that they appreciated how

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I handled everything, and I was I was pretty dumbfounded,

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>uh that that they would be thanking me for the

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 1>way I handled everything. They they were uh uh complementary

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of of you know, me taking the initial steps. Unfortunately,

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 1>in in these situations when when there's a when there's

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a driver, whether the driver has been under the influence

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>or not, they tend to flee the scene. And that

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>as as the any psychologists or even state Attorneys office

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>will tell you, that is a natural reaction. It's fight

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>or flights since and and and people and but you

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>know that was not saying that I'm a good person

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>or any of this stuff. But you know that was

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>never my intention and and my intention was for what

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>happened to Mr reyas and tried to get you know,

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>tried to call nine one one and get them out

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>there as soon as possible. And so all of these

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>things actually really played in my favor, not again not

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 1>thinking about at the time, but all these things played

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>into my favor. Um, you know at the end of

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the plea agreement. The fact that I stayed on the

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>same the fact that I was the first one to

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>call nine one one after multiple or a dozen calls. Um,

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I waved my miranda rights to go down

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to speak to the police. Um all these things had

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 1>had a positive effect on on my situation at the end,

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and so UM you know, I just uh, I understood

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that there were no winners and in anything that any

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>outcome that was gonna happen. You know, if I went

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to jail for ten years, or if I didn't go

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to the jail at all, there were no none of

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>that would would would give any retribution. It wouldn't bring

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Mr Reys back, and it wouldn't uh take my mind

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>off to the fact every day that um, I played

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a role in someone losing their life. And so UM

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I knew at that moment that I had, I had

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to two decisions that I could make. I could fade

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>into obscurity and never speak to anyone again and just

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>go about my life and never talk about it again.

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Or I could put myself on the front street and

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>be allowed, you know, be susceptible and vulnerable to attacks.

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But when I when I started to think about the

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>work that I could do, the work that I could

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>help other people with, than all of the that became

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>a shield for people that want to attack me, that

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>just want me to to invalidate any other topics or

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>any other conversation that I bring up. So you know,

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it was always it's it's always hard. It's hard to

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 1>talk about at any time. You know, it's been more

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>than a decade and it's still just as fresh on

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>my mind as it happened yesterday. But the thing again

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>that I said that I that I use as a

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 1>shield is to know that when when I'm speaking, specially

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>when I go I've spoken at you know, multiple universities,

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>UM to incoming freshmen, to UH two athletes, both men

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and women's sports. UM. I've done a promotional videos for

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the for the NHL, for the NFL obviously UM working

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 1>on doing some things with the NBA. So I've been

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been active in trying to uh, you know, raise awareness,

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>not not necessarily for driving under the influence, but just

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>for decision making in general. And and and how we

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, how how when we make decisions, you know,

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>they can all culminate to a situation where there are

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>snowball effect happens. And now you know, you've made so

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>many seemingly benign or minor decisions that culminated to a

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>snowball effect where now it's out of your control and

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you can't handle it. So my job, I feel, is

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to make people aware of those minor decisions that they're making,

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.720
<v Speaker 1>um and and try to stop them from even getting

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to that snowball so they could control, uh, you know,

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a majority of the things and not have any self

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 1>inflicted wounds with with consistent decisions that they're making everyday,

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.919
<v Speaker 1>decisions that they're making that may not seem like bad

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>decisions and in in uh you know, as you're making them,

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>but when you look back on things in hindsight, it's like, oh,

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, this could have been prevented if I wouldn't

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>have done X, Y Z or ABC so UM, I've

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>been able to uh you know, speak at at different companies,

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>speak in front of uh kids, and and all of

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>this I've taken to uh you know as just as

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 1>me not falling into obscurity, me not crawling into a hole,

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, or moving somewhere out of the country and

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>just living my life and not talking to anyone again.

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that would be cowardly of me.

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that would be um that that would

0:45:55.320 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 1>be uh running away from my responsibility that I have

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to to continue to try to uh try to help

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>people and give them, um an assessment of my journey

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and how I got there and how they can prevent

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>going down a similar path. I think it's about that time.

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Just take a little breather. God, do it good, do it.

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's getting down to do it good. Hey Gerard, why

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 1>did you get that T shirt? Oh? Yes, I got

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>it from cut to a podcast dot com where we

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.959
<v Speaker 1>have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at seven

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>or four shot. But yeah, you can go on, buy

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 1>you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you listen

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. To go through all of that and to

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>know the trauma that has happened, of course to other people,

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but then yourself have have you been able to take

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>care of yourself from a mental health standpoint and be

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:56.800
<v Speaker 1>able to apply self care? You know what I was.

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I was in a pretty bad place, as you know

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 1>any anyone would be. I was in a pretty bad

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>place initially. And I think my first steps to healing

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>came when the family reached out. After two weeks I

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>had to UM, I turned myself into the police and

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 1>posted bail. But that's when I gave my first UM

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>public statement and UM and shortly after that they thanked me,

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, for the way I handled things from you know,

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:29.280
<v Speaker 1>from the onset, which which honestly started my healing process.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh didn't happen that day or the next day, or

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the next week or the next year. But I think

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the family UM was appreciative of, you know,

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>how I handled things and UH and forgiving and they

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 1>were instrumental, honestly, and and the plea agreement, UM, you know,

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and and the reason why people don't you know, they

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 1>see a black and white situation where uh, you know,

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>someone was under the influence and hits them with their

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>car and that person died and they don't see you

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>know why I didn't go to prison for ten years.

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there there were a lot of things

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that I won't really relitigate, but you know, the family

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>understood the facts of the case, and anyone who was

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>involved understood the facts of the case. But the family

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>was also instrumental. And a lot of people don't know this.

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've said this publicly or not,

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>but the family didn't want me to do any jail time.

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.919
<v Speaker 1>They didn't want to. They didn't want to go to court.

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 1>They didn't want because basically, my defense would have had

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>to have uh, you know, defending myself would have would

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 1>have had to have put an out over over the

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:44.839
<v Speaker 1>entire case, over the circumstances of all of it, right,

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and and so no one wanted that. I didn't want that.

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 1>The family didn't want that, and so they were instrumental

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of things. And again, they didn't want

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 1>me to to serve any time in jail, honestly, so

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you didn't. You didn't serve any time, But you've also

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I did thirty days. But you know, they basically sentenced

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>me with the d u I, and you got a

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>d U I thirty days in jail. But you also

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>are never you're not allowed or ever to have a

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 1>driver's license. Correct, Yeah, I cannot m my My driver's

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 1>license in Florida is suspended for life. Um. I guess

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I can apply for a license elsewhere. I live in Washington,

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>d C. I've been there for almost seven years. But

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, driving again as never, um, being something that's

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>on my mind. And I'm lucky you to live in

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a city where, um, you know, the uh, it's pretty

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.320
<v Speaker 1>easy to get around. There's a lot of people that

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>walk around and he was he was in Baltimore doing

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the internship when I was there. Ain't drive there, you yeah,

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's and I learned that about them. You know,

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>just you know, a lot of people just see one

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>thing and they oh, you know, but there's things that

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you've been been experienced almost ten plus years now that

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>are that's literally every day of his life that he

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously the family has test to deal with

0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>that as well, but it you know, I guess one

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>of the questions I've always wanted to ask you. I know,

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been in car accidents when I was a young kid.

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>There's times where when I go to sleep or I

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 1>close my eyes, I can see mental images of things.

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Have you experienced that? Yeah, um, yeah, And honestly, it's

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why I don't why why I

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily care at least at this point to like

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>drive again. Um, and uh, you know, and and it's

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>something that uh, you know, I had to Luckily, I

0:50:55.719 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 1>was very reluctant, but the NFL essentrally uh forced me to,

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>uh to see a therapist, you know, shortly after it happened.

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And um, you know, just as an NFL player, you know,

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 1>our whole mentality is to throw it right and and

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to not let your opponentsmentalize see your weaknesses, right, mental

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>physical weaknesses. Don't let them see you tired. Right when

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 1>we're training and we're doing these sprints, No no bending over,

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>no no bill in your hands on any of these

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>stand up, you know what I mean. All these types

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of things that are ingrained in you as a player,

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's not necessarily easy to switch those things off, uh,

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, in in in real life and actual life

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>outside of the football game. So, um, there were a

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of things in those therapy sessions, man, that I

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 1>that I learned about myself that um, I didn't know

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I was uh that that were kind of like like

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>hidden beneath the surface, and um, you know, with without

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>without those therapy sessions, I I don't know, you know

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>where I would be right now. So I'm actually glad

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that the NFL did that, and it also enabled me

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to to realize, like you know, and I studied psychology

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to school, you think I would understand this, but I

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>think the football aspect of my life kind of took

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>that over. But you know, you when you speak, when

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you're speaking to a therapist, there's just this this uh

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>societal norm that it's just it's shun upon and you know,

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>we we everyone needs someone to talk to, whether we

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>talk to our significant other, we talked to our family members,

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>are best friends where we all speak to someone and

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and in times of need and times of advice, we

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>need someone. But you know, what are some of the things,

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind sharing, that you discovered through the

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:53.840
<v Speaker 1>through therapy, that were beneath those the root of some

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of the things that you may not even you didn't

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 1>even know we're there. Um, I think there was a

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of built up anger that I

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize was there anger at um at me putting

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 1>myself in that situation, Anger at people who didn't uh

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, know the situation but just kind of saw

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, the X y Z and they came to

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 1>their own determination. Uh, not at all. Anger at Mr.

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Ray is just anger that I put myself in that position,

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and anger at a lot of the fallout of the

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:40.879
<v Speaker 1>fallout of what what transpired after. Yeah. Yeah, And because

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<v Speaker 1>I I hadn't realized it, but I had hit it

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<v Speaker 1>really well, because again it was just you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to stay focused on my task at hand. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the anger just was kind of pushed off

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<v Speaker 1>to the side. And um oh no, no, after after

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<v Speaker 1>you went all through this, go through a trial, during

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<v Speaker 1>this process, where would the Cleveland Browns um, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>had just brought in a new head coach and and

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, there there were a couple of people behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes that were that we're reaching out, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>checking on me and asking if I could Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was very appreciative. And honestly, I'll be real, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of a lot of he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a bad rap and some of the things. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I don't agree with that some of the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that he's made, especially you know, earlier on as his

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<v Speaker 1>tenure as commissioner. But Roger Goodale was very instrumental as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which surprised me. I didn't know him at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I'm like, you know, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>my first time meeting him in this situation, and why

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<v Speaker 1>you're in trouble, I don't think can go go over

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<v Speaker 1>very well? Right right? And um, and I had I

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<v Speaker 1>had an opportunity um to speak to him one on one.

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<v Speaker 1>He invited me in his office and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things he told me it was just he and I.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things he told me was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before you walk in this office, you're not walking in

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<v Speaker 1>here as an NFL player and I'm not the commissioner.

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<v Speaker 1>You're walking in here as a man, and you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>into my office and I'm a man, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a man and man conversation. So basically, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, take off of your football hat. It says

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with football, has nothing to do with business.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just talking man to man. And he shared some

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<v Speaker 1>things with me. I was like, why is he telling

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<v Speaker 1>me all these personal things? But uh, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of it, I realized that uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even through everything he um and people he had spoken

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<v Speaker 1>with and uh, you know, other owners that I had

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<v Speaker 1>played for other teams, Um, he understood, you know from

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<v Speaker 1>what he told me and what he'd heard from them,

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<v Speaker 1>was that, you know, he's not a bad guy at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just he's a good guy that just made a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible decision and the outcome was very bad. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the outcome was uh something that was irreparable, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so, uh we talked a lot about about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward and what I what what I saw in myself,

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw that I could do moving forward, not

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<v Speaker 1>just to help myself, but to help society as a

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<v Speaker 1>whole and obviously help other people in the NFL. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the conversation, and that was the conversation before

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<v Speaker 1>he suspended me. He even asked me like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think he's like if you were in

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<v Speaker 1>my shoes. At the end of the conversation, he said, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were in my shoes, what would you do?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I would probably be suspended for at

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<v Speaker 1>least the season, And that's what he did. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying he took my word for it, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's what he did. And we had a

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<v Speaker 1>great conversation. I still talked to him till this day.

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<v Speaker 1>I can, I can text him, or maybe before COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>I could text him and say, Hey, I'm in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, are you free tomorrow around this time, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'd say, yeah, I'll make time come through, and he

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<v Speaker 1>would make time for me. We'd speak for an hour

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<v Speaker 1>or two, talk about the state of the NFL society,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I felt like I really had his ear.

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<v Speaker 1>And even throughout, you know, the whole thing with the protests,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to him a number of times and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and told him some things that I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was not you know, that was not okay with what

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL was doing, and things that he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do moving forward. And I appreciate him, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>he was there. He was he was there for me

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<v Speaker 1>and and checking on me regularly. And he didn't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was suspended. I was out of the

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<v Speaker 1>league essentially, and you know, he had no reason to.

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<v Speaker 1>He had every reason to kind of wipe his hands

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<v Speaker 1>with me, and uh and no reason to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>continue our communication and continue to talk to me, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did, and so I will always be grateful for

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<v Speaker 1>him for that. And uh, you know he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the people who were very instrumental, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and help me get back into the league

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<v Speaker 1>and talking me, talking to me throughout that whole process,

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<v Speaker 1>even when I was suspended. Appreciate your time. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you taking the time to to really tell your story,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to tell you why and what you've experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going through, how you've ever overcoming man and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't take that information and and the message and

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<v Speaker 1>your transparency lightly. So thank you, brother, appreciation anytime. Thanks

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