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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, December twenty fourth, Christmas Eve,

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Speaker 1: and we assure you you have a better chance of

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Speaker 1: seeing Santa Claus the night than ever seeing all the

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Speaker 1: Epstein files. And with that, welcome to this episode of

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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ Robes. What's the point we're hopping on

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Speaker 1: here because we need to update I guess correct some

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Speaker 1: reporting we had yesterday that we got from the DOJ

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Speaker 1: that's now come back and said one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: things in the Epstein files that everybody saw is fake.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The problem with that is that if there is ever

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Speaker 2: anything negative or anything they don't like, or anything they

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Speaker 2: don't want to be taken as truth, they'll just say

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Speaker 2: it's fake. That has been the response to everything. And

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Speaker 2: it gets to a point where, now, what's the point

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Speaker 2: of releasing any file If any file that's damaging or

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Speaker 2: negative towards the administration is just duped or deemed fake?

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Speaker 1: What you're going with that you think that that's all

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Speaker 1: this is, And you immediately were dismissive and thought that

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Speaker 1: that's all this.

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Speaker 2: Is as a human, as a journalist, Yes, And the

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Speaker 2: reason being the past has also shown this exact same

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Speaker 2: result when we had the Epstein birthday book, and Trump's clear,

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Speaker 2: you know, imaging of breasts and his little poem or

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Speaker 2: whatever to Jeffrey Epstein. That certainly insinuated something that we

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Speaker 2: don't want to think about with Trump and his love

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Speaker 2: of girls.

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Speaker 3: He said it not my signature. So what are you

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Speaker 3: supposed to do?

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Speaker 2: Everything that is shown or revealed that has anything.

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Speaker 3: To do with Trump not my signature.

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Speaker 2: You even had Prince Andrew saying that photos a fake

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Speaker 2: of me in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: Do you pray if everyone just says that's fake? How

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Speaker 3: are we supposed to actually consider any of this.

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Speaker 1: Evidence when you say it that way? This is a

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Speaker 1: clear it's a pattern we have seen. This isn't a

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Speaker 1: one off, right, Okay, So when you do that, it's

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Speaker 1: hard you do and it's of their own doing that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we take things they say with a grain of salt,

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Speaker 1: but this robes. Here we are and we're hopping on.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday another dump of Epstein files. I think it was

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Speaker 1: the third major dump, but it's kind of a trickle

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Speaker 1: that's come out. All of it was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: out last Friday based on law, but it wasn't. So

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Speaker 1: they're continuing to read act and put stuff out. One

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Speaker 1: of the things we got yesterday Robes was a letter

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Speaker 1: the text of a letter purportedly sent from Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 1: in the days surrounding his death to Larry Nasser. Of

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Speaker 1: all people, Larry Nasser is in jail in where is

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Speaker 1: he being kept in Arizona's he moved?

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Speaker 3: I believe I don't know where he's moved to.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, many of these crimes happened in Arizona he's from.

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Speaker 2: He has obviously committed plenty of crimes in the Michigan

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Speaker 2: State University campuses.

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Speaker 1: A reminder, but people know who he is by now.

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Speaker 3: He is probably well.

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Speaker 2: I would say he is one of the most notorious pedophiles.

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Speaker 2: Convicted of two hundred plus girls of sexually abusing young girls,

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Speaker 2: but more than three hundred and thirty girls have come

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Speaker 2: forward over a two decade period saying he sexually assaulted me.

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Speaker 2: He was not only a physician at the university, sorry,

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Speaker 2: at the Michigan State University, dealing with gymnasts, but also

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Speaker 3: Olympians.

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Speaker 2: He was in charge of their healthcare and was just

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Speaker 1: So big deal, big scandal, big time criminal, spending the

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Speaker 1: rest of his life in prison. So in this batch

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Speaker 1: of Epstein files that were released, we were all like,

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Speaker 1: what in God's name why is Epstein writing to Larry Nasser?

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Speaker 1: And then the text of what he wrote again, this

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Speaker 1: this is supposed to be Epstein's handwriting. So this letter

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Speaker 1: comes out, the text of the letter from Epstein to NASA.

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Speaker 2: You have it in front of him, yes, okay, it

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Speaker 3: Good luck.

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Speaker 2: We shared one day our love and caring for young

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Speaker 2: president also shares our love of young Newbile girls. When

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Speaker 2: a young beauty walked by, he loved to grab snatch,

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Speaker 2: of the system. Life is unfair, yours, Jay Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's explosive if true. And it's in these files

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Speaker 2: Yes, And look, I'm sure plenty of people who are

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Speaker 2: a lot of Jeffrey Epstein's letters, and he did write

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Speaker 2: what their statement was. But this does have the same

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Speaker 3: That's why it seemed legit to me.

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Speaker 2: Initially, I didn't even question it because everything I've seen

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Speaker 2: that sounds like how Jeffrey Epstein talks or writes. When

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, so this letter gets out, it is buzzing.

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Speaker 1: There were a couple of things. Look, you got journalists

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Speaker 1: all over this country, organizations pouring over thousands and thousands

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Speaker 1: All of them thought this was of note. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: Epstein referencing the president liking young girls. So the DALJ

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Speaker 1: first tweet yesterday to kind of explain things said, the

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Speaker 1: DLJ is currently looking into the validity of this alleged

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Speaker 1: letter from Jeffrey Epstein to Larry NASA. We will follow

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Speaker 1: up as soon as possible in the meantime. Three facts

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Speaker 1: stand out. The postmark on the envelope is Virginia, not

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Speaker 1: include his inmate number, which is required for outgoing mail.

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Speaker 1: And the envelope was processed three days after Epstein's death.

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Speaker 1: That's the first tweet they sent out, kind of setting

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Speaker 1: Isn't question number one rodes. Why did it come out?

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Speaker 1: If they were looking over documents, somebody was supposed to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is puzzling to me.

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Speaker 1: Oversight.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, what a huge oversight. They've had a lot

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Speaker 2: of time. I would think anytime they see anything with Trump,

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Speaker 2: don't know how the process works. I just know that

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Speaker 2: the level of trust, unfortunately, that most Americans have right now,

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Speaker 3: It's tough to know.

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Speaker 2: Because if you're told one thing and then another thing

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Speaker 2: It's really it numbs you to the whole thing, and

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Speaker 1: So they follow up after that first one saying that

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Speaker 1: one in front of the eye as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it says yes a follow up tweet. The FBI

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Speaker 2: has confirmed this alleged letter from Jeffrey Epstein to Larry

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Speaker 2: Nasser is fake. The letter was received by the jail

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Speaker 2: and flagged for the FBI at the time. The FBI

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Speaker 2: made this conclusion based on the following facts. So at

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Speaker 2: the time, how did it then get into the files

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Speaker 2: all right. The writing does not appear to match Jeffrey Epstein's.

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Speaker 2: The letter was postmarked three days after Epstein's death out

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Speaker 2: of Northern Virginia, when he was jailed in New York.

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Speaker 2: The return address did not list the jail where Epstein

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Speaker 2: is required for outgoing mail. This fake letter serves as

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Speaker 2: a reminder that just because a document is released by

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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice does not make the allegations or

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Speaker 2: claims within the document factual. Nevertheless, the DOJ will continue

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Speaker 2: to release all material required by law. Are they required

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Speaker 2: to release documents that have been deemed fake?

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Speaker 3: That doesn't seem possible.

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Speaker 1: But they're supposed to release all they have. This is

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Speaker 1: still in a pile of files somewhere. Okay.

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Speaker 2: But if you're an if you're any sort of an

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Speaker 3: You would remove it, you would trash it.

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Speaker 1: It was received by the jail and flagged for the

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Speaker 1: it was fake six years ago. Is that statement? Am

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Speaker 2: That is what they are saying. That is what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: So fresh off of Jeffrey Epstein's death, someone somewhere had

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Speaker 3: What they are claiming.

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Speaker 2: That is what But the problem is, Look, I would

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Speaker 2: But I've never felt like at a point now where

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Speaker 2: when they're releasing the information, how much they're releasing. Look,

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Speaker 2: they had an entire file that was released with pretty

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Speaker 2: much complete and total reactions talking about co conspirators that

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Speaker 3: Okay, ah ah, this is what we've been looking for.

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Speaker 2: Right, forget even trying to look at Trump or look

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Speaker 2: at anyone whose name we already know may be associated.

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Speaker 2: People want to hear these new names, these other powerful

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Speaker 2: businessmen who were co conspirators, who who participated in some

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Speaker 2: of these file acts with underage girls. We actually have

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Speaker 2: a document showing names of people who they were investigating,

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Speaker 2: and they're all blacked out.

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Speaker 1: There are reasons for that. I don't know. These folks

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Speaker 1: been accused of any crime. I don't know, but rodes

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Speaker 1: this was the transparency moment. It's called the Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: Transparency Act. This is what everybody is upset that hasn't

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Speaker 1: gotten justice for these victims. This was the stuff that

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Speaker 1: is going to change the game. And we finally get transparency.

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Speaker 1: And the DOJ is telling us don't believe anything in

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I've lost hope about that. I hope for

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Speaker 1: some reporting that we had here yesterday, right, Robes. All

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that just undermines the whole process, the

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Speaker 1: And clearly that threat is working totally. Okay. The other

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly what you just said there.

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Speaker 3: I I'm just saying, like, where does it end? This

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Speaker 2: It's a circus, it's silly, and this is why people

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Speaker 3: This is why people.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm laughing because I think that I might

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Speaker 1: morning Run from Amy Robock. It erodes trust that was

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Speaker 2: Good about that, yes, And With that, everyone, Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Oh my dear Amy, I have TJ Holme. Then we

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Speaker 1: will be talking y'all soon. Each space the two tents