Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky
Speaker 1: and jooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Hey, I'm ghosted. Hi rons Dressens, Hey boo,
Speaker 1: it's me Rouse Dress. Foreless you guys. I had the
Speaker 1: best weekend ever because we did the live show and
Speaker 1: it was completely sold out. They had ad chairs just
Speaker 1: to get you all in there, and it was It
Speaker 1: was a blast, And that will be posted. I think
Speaker 1: in about two weeks we'll post the live show for
Speaker 1: you to hear on here. And you know, one thing
Speaker 1: I will say that happened was Elena Sir Video schwinn
Speaker 1: our psychic and I was psych medium. We did a
Speaker 1: little bit of a ghost hunt before the show in
Speaker 1: the theater before anyone arrived, and I was there and
Speaker 1: I witnessed a little bit of spookiness with a spirit
Speaker 1: box and we got some information about the ghosts that
Speaker 1: are down there in the basement of the Cavern Club,
Speaker 1: at least we think so. So we talked about that
Speaker 1: on stage with Dave Holmes and it was fun and
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to listen to it.
Speaker 1: Today is a listener episode and I'm so excited because
Speaker 1: we've got some spooky stories coming up, and like always,
Speaker 1: I would love to hear your spooky stories. So if
Speaker 1: you want to be on a listener episode, just send
Speaker 1: me an email ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com
Speaker 1: and right in the subject line listener episode because I'd
Speaker 1: love to record another one soon. And the best part
Speaker 1: about phone call interviews is no germs. I hope everyone's
Speaker 1: staying safe out there. Make sure you're washing your hands.
Speaker 1: All right, let's listen to some listeners. I've been ghosted too.
Speaker 1: Hiend Alyssa, how are you? I'm good? How are you good?
Speaker 1: Are you ready to talk about some ghosts? I would
Speaker 1: love to Where are you calling from?
Speaker 2: I'm in Texas right now?
Speaker 1: Really what part?
Speaker 2: I'm in the Panhandle?
Speaker 1: Like up in the north Oh? So is that where
Speaker 1: your ghost stories take place?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, So what's the story?
Speaker 1: You were telling me that you've worked at a haunted house.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So, when I was about sixteen, I went to a
Speaker 2: haunted house attraction. Hold on, give me one second.
Speaker 3: I went to a haunted house attraction.
Speaker 2: And I ended up running into the owner at the
Speaker 2: end of it, and the theater kademy was so excited
Speaker 2: at the chance of possibly being a part of it,
Speaker 2: that I begged them to let me join and be
Speaker 2: a part of it, and so we worked some stuff out,
Speaker 2: contacted each other over Facebook, and I eventually started working
Speaker 2: there and so that was super cool.
Speaker 1: What kind of place was it?
Speaker 4: So it was a two story building which they would
Speaker 4: put in these walls, and each year they would have
Speaker 4: like a different theme.
Speaker 2: I think the one that I started working in was
Speaker 2: video games, so it was like you started out with
Speaker 2: like a saw video game you had to crawl through
Speaker 2: an archy system and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, But you think that the place was actually.
Speaker 2: Haunted, Yes, one hundred it's well known that that building
Speaker 2: is haunted. I know they've had paranormal investigators actually do
Speaker 2: investigations there as well. And it's on a historic road
Speaker 2: that used to be, you know, one of the popular
Speaker 2: ways to get across country before major highways were built,
Speaker 2: So that whole area is actually really historical and old.
Speaker 2: So it's very possible that that building used to be
Speaker 2: a home, businesses, whatever, you know. So when I started,
Speaker 2: they had me in the center of the attraction and
Speaker 2: basically what it was was a room that dead end
Speaker 2: you would come in from a hallway, and there would
Speaker 2: be an.
Speaker 4: Autopsy table, a.
Speaker 2: Medical bed, and a dentist chair, and then a refrigerator
Speaker 2: and that's all in the room, and it's supposed to
Speaker 2: look like a dead end, and what you're supposed to
Speaker 2: do is kind of freak out a little bit and
Speaker 2: then eventually open up the fridge and go through there
Speaker 2: and the medical bed, the autopsy table. All that stuff
Speaker 2: that was in the room was actually found by the
Speaker 2: owners at a dump, so they yeah, they could have
Speaker 2: well been used by many people.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they had me play an insane person and
Speaker 2: so they had me in a straight jacket, and since
Speaker 2: it was the center of the attraction, it was very very.
Speaker 4: Hot in there.
Speaker 2: But they when I first started, the two other people
Speaker 2: that were in the room with me told me that
Speaker 2: they occasionally get cold spots in the room even though
Speaker 2: there's no ac and that things would just go missing.
Speaker 2: So if I had something important, you know, don't leave
Speaker 2: it in the room. And when I was like, missing,
Speaker 2: do you mean people come in and take stuff? And
Speaker 2: they were like, no, no one comes into this room
Speaker 2: after we leave except for the owners, and they won't
Speaker 2: touch our stuff or our props or anything. But they
Speaker 2: will will put our props all in the middle of
Speaker 2: the table at the end of the day and then
Speaker 2: they'll just be moved. So that came in and they
Speaker 2: were telling me some of the paranormal stuff that they
Speaker 2: had going on. So when I started working one night,
Speaker 2: I was sitting on my medical bed with my straight
Speaker 2: jacket on, and we didn't have anyone in the Hound's
Speaker 2: house yet. We were waiting for some more groups to
Speaker 2: come in, and it took about twenty minutes for people
Speaker 2: to even get to our room when we started taking
Speaker 2: in people. So I was just sitting there waiting for her,
Speaker 2: you know, someone to let us know that people were coming,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I.
Speaker 4: Just got really really cold.
Speaker 2: So I kind of started, you know, moving a little
Speaker 2: bit back and forth, kind of rocking myself just because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my body temperature up by doing
Speaker 2: physical activity. And one of the people that was in
Speaker 2: the room with me was like, oh, well, no, one's coming,
Speaker 2: you don't have to do that. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm just like cold. She's like, no, it's like one
Speaker 2: hundred degrees in here. I was like, come here, it's
Speaker 2: cold over here. So she walked over towards me, and
Speaker 2: she said that there was a definite temperature change about
Speaker 2: twenty degrees from where she was to where I was,
Speaker 2: and she was feeling all around me and she said
Speaker 2: it was like a giant cold circle just around me.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I am no ac no dry eyes, nothing.
Speaker 2: No no, oh no, like no, I see nothing.
Speaker 5: We were.
Speaker 2: I mean it was middle of October, so it's cold outside.
Speaker 2: But with everyone in the building and with you know,
Speaker 2: all the people getting scared and stuff, it's run's really
Speaker 2: hot in there. So that was really weird and I
Speaker 2: kind of got uncomfortable. Yeah, And so we had a
Speaker 2: guy that was decked door to us in another room,
Speaker 2: and basically what his room was, it was a hidden
Speaker 2: room for him to hide. And then he would go
Speaker 2: into a hallway that was connected to the room that
Speaker 2: wasn't the hallway connected to ours, and uh, he would
Speaker 2: you know, spook people in the hallway, jump out at
Speaker 2: them and scare them, and he would know that they
Speaker 2: were coming because when you walked there was a motion
Speaker 2: detector in the hallway that would set off a sound
Speaker 2: and some fog, so he could tell people were coming.
Speaker 2: And when he would need to leave well, he had
Speaker 2: a little ledge, like a little lip at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the doorway into that hallway, so he would have
Speaker 2: physically kind of jump or you know, like hop over
Speaker 2: it in order to get out into the hallway and
Speaker 2: not trip and then scare the people and.
Speaker 1: Then butt exercise to be honest, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, you work in those legs. Yeah, so he would
Speaker 2: have to you know, jump back. And since it's all
Speaker 2: dark and you can't really see in there, and I
Speaker 2: think he even wore a mask, it was really hard
Speaker 2: for him to see the lip.
Speaker 4: But he would always make.
Speaker 2: Sure he had only a chair in his little hidden room,
Speaker 2: and so he would make sure that his chair was
Speaker 2: you know, not where he would chirp and fall over it.
Speaker 2: But every single time he would jump out and scare people,
Speaker 2: he would jump back in and the chair would be
Speaker 2: right at the door and he would trip and fall
Speaker 2: over it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean there was times where he would come in
Speaker 2: afterwards and show us scrapes and bruises and not, like
Speaker 2: he'd be bleeding from tripping over this chair, and you
Speaker 2: know he's like, I know, I didn't move it, and
Speaker 2: it even if I did, it would move backwards away
Speaker 2: from the door, not towards it.
Speaker 1: You know, those ghosts were like, you want to see spooky,
Speaker 1: we'll show you spooky.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean it was one time it was
Speaker 2: bad enough where we heard him fall so hard that
Speaker 2: we stopped everything in order to check on him.
Speaker 1: Wow. I worked at one of those places when I
Speaker 1: was maybe gosh, I was like fourteen fifteen and free labor. Great,
Speaker 1: it was wonderful, but I had the time of my
Speaker 1: life and I it wasn't a haunted place, but I
Speaker 1: I loved so much, just like spooking people. And it
Speaker 1: was all volunteer based, and so I told the people
Speaker 1: that worked there, like, oh, my sister, I want my
Speaker 1: sister to do I think it'd be really fun. So
Speaker 1: I have my sister get painted up like a spooky
Speaker 1: clown and they put her in this spooky clown room
Speaker 1: and she was a couple of rooms away from me,
Speaker 1: and they just had they told her what to do whatever,
Speaker 1: and I maybe twenty minutes into it, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go check in on her. Because it was
Speaker 1: kind of one of those little slow periods where you're
Speaker 1: waiting for the next groups to come in or whatever,
Speaker 1: and so I go over there to be like, so,
Speaker 1: how's it going? And I could not find her anywhere,
Speaker 1: So I was like, what the heck happened? And then
Speaker 1: I open up this closet and she's sitting in there.
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't like it in here, it's scary.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're supposed to be the scary anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that room and just the vibe of it,
Speaker 2: it just felt different than the rest of the place.
Speaker 2: So as soon as they needed someone to go to
Speaker 2: a different part of the place, I was like, yes, me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like being cold when no one else's it's
Speaker 2: kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, unless it's like real hot, Like ghosts
Speaker 1: could definitely find themselves useful if it's like we're in
Speaker 1: the middle of summer and it's we're in Florida and
Speaker 1: the ac is broken. So then you after you went
Speaker 1: worked there, you worked at a haunted museum.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I worked at this museum and it was
Speaker 2: actually built in nineteen twenty nine by this amazing woman.
Speaker 2: I unfortunately don't remember her name, but she, you know,
Speaker 2: it was amazing history. Oh, probably in another life, but
Speaker 2: she decided that this area had lots of history and it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't being told.
Speaker 2: So she actually got the community together to build this museum,
Speaker 2: and she had people spend her bricks in the mail
Speaker 2: to actually put the foundation of.
Speaker 5: The building together.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so the oldest part of the building is
Speaker 2: made up of bricks from people's own houses and it
Speaker 2: was like during the Great Depression, so you know, all
Speaker 2: that energy could possibly be stored in that material. Wow.
Speaker 1: What part of Texas is this called?
Speaker 5: So this.
Speaker 2: Museum is in Canyon, Texas and the area is called
Speaker 2: the Panhandled Yeah, and so we really don't have a
Speaker 2: lot except for pioneer cowboys and then like you know,
Speaker 2: of course Native American history around here.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what was going on in this haunted museum?
Speaker 4: Well, nothing too freaky.
Speaker 2: Like I did talk to some of the security guards
Speaker 2: and they talked and said that like they would hear
Speaker 2: people walking around or see someone, so they would go
Speaker 2: follow them, you know, to make sure that you know,
Speaker 2: they have a good headcount of how many people are
Speaker 2: in the building, and there would be no one there.
Speaker 1: But now that happened to you when.
Speaker 2: I would constantly be at my desk most of the
Speaker 2: time just listening to podcasts and stuff, and we had
Speaker 2: these big stone almost tile uh flowers in the main area,
Speaker 2: and the room behind me was all carpet, so if
Speaker 2: someone was in the main area, I could hear them
Speaker 2: walking around, and if they were in the other area,
Speaker 2: I couldn't. And I would constantly hear footsteps behind me,
Speaker 2: which made me think that there was someone that came
Speaker 2: in from the back, or because we had parking back there,
Speaker 2: so sometimes people would park in the back and come
Speaker 2: in all the way to come to the front, and
Speaker 2: so I would turn around and there'd be nobody there.
Speaker 2: I would just hear people walking and there's no one there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was pretty cool. I mean, that was like the
Speaker 2: best job ever just to be around all these history
Speaker 2: and historical objects, especially because we had a replica Pioneer
Speaker 2: village in our museum, and some of the stuff, like
Speaker 2: some of the houses and I think we have a
Speaker 2: hotel was actually real life, like really used buildings that
Speaker 2: we just moved and put into our museum. Whoa, yeah,
Speaker 2: stuff from like the eighteen hundreds, so we had some
Speaker 2: really old stuff in that museum.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you were also telling me that you have
Speaker 1: had dream premonitions. What's up with that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so it's really kind of lame. But I've
Speaker 2: had dreams of like really mundane things. For example, I
Speaker 2: had a dream that I was working at Burlington Coat Factory,
Speaker 2: and I had only applied there at the time that
Speaker 2: I had the dream, and so later I actually got
Speaker 2: the job. And when I on my first day, I
Speaker 2: was working and I was picking up clothes and putting
Speaker 2: them on hangers, and my coworker behind me goes, hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to go take your break? And that
Speaker 2: was the exact dream that I had, was just someone going, hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to go take your break? And so
Speaker 2: I just turned around and I had that huge sense
Speaker 2: of deja voo, but it wasn't deja vous of like, oh.
Speaker 3: I've lived at this before.
Speaker 2: It was I've dreamed this every yeah, And every time
Speaker 2: I have these dreams, I always know that it like
Speaker 2: I've dreamt it. If I like if it when it
Speaker 2: happens in real life, go I dreamt this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you? Does it? Ever? Is it ever anything
Speaker 1: that's like significant or like important for you to know
Speaker 1: and that you dream ahead of time? Or is it
Speaker 1: always just like just like conversations and that kind of
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, one time I had one where I was
Speaker 2: having a conversation with my boyfriend and it was kind
Speaker 2: of a little heated, and then in real life we
Speaker 2: had that conversation. I was like, Oh, I dreamt this,
Speaker 2: and then we ended up fighting about it, and so
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe it was trying to let
Speaker 2: me know that we were going to fight about this thing.
Speaker 2: But besides that, not really, it's like just you know,
Speaker 2: seeing something like a little scenery of like what's around me,
Speaker 2: and then I'm just like, Oh, I've drunk this.
Speaker 1: Why does that happen?
Speaker 2: I have no clue. And I think maybe because, like
Speaker 2: I know, some of especially the psychic mediums and stuff
Speaker 2: that you've had on your show, they've said that like
Speaker 2: everyone kind.
Speaker 4: Of has these abilities.
Speaker 2: You just have to open yourself up. And maybe it's
Speaker 2: my brain and my soul trying to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: you can do this, you just need to listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucie, the way that I view stuff like that,
Speaker 1: it's not from any religion or anything. But I often
Speaker 1: think that we are like on a path, and I
Speaker 1: think that sometimes if you see something ahead of time,
Speaker 1: like let's say you see you driving down a specific
Speaker 1: road in a dream and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it happens. I almost feel like that's confirmation that, oh,
Speaker 1: you're actually on like the path is, it's working out
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to you. You saw that you
Speaker 1: were supposed to be there, and now you are there,
Speaker 1: So that means that everything's going as according to plan.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: That's really I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: It's like giving yourself confirmation that you're that everything's going
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hi, this is ros Dress Fallees.
Speaker 5: Hi.
Speaker 4: This is Megan.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing good?
Speaker 1: How are you good? Where are you at?
Speaker 3: I'm in Texas?
Speaker 1: Ooh what part?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: It's San Marcus, Texas. So it's about thirty minutes outside
Speaker 3: of Austin.
Speaker 1: Oh. I was just talking to somebody else in Texas. Ooh,
Speaker 1: so what happened to you? You grew up in haunted houses?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I grew up in two haunted houses.
Speaker 1: How does that happen?
Speaker 3: We blame my dad because he grew up in a
Speaker 3: He grew up like right next to a.
Speaker 2: Graveyard, so he likes the spooky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we think he's got some spooky stuff with him.
Speaker 1: So what was the first one.
Speaker 3: The first one was the house where I was like
Speaker 3: born into, like I grew up from like age zero
Speaker 3: to age like twelve ish, and that was like the
Speaker 3: scary one. The second house was less scary. There was
Speaker 3: stuff happening, but it was less like terrifying. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: the first house was a scary one. Like there were
Speaker 3: like it was daily things. I would every night I
Speaker 3: would hear like scratches on my door, like my bedroom door. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was not fun and like usually people are like, well,
Speaker 3: that's the cat, but we had we had a cat,
Speaker 3: but it was declawed, so there was like nothing in
Speaker 3: our house that would have been making that sound.
Speaker 1: So I'm always curious about so people move into a
Speaker 1: haunted house how quickly until stuff starts happening.
Speaker 3: I don't know that's this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a baby.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was a baby baby. But I've asked my mom
Speaker 3: about it. My dad doesn't believe in it at all,
Speaker 3: which is frustrating. It felt, uh, but my mom said
Speaker 3: she only noticed little things and it was never anything
Speaker 3: that made her like think that anything was really going wrong.
Speaker 3: It was, but when we moved into our second house,
Speaker 3: it continued almost immediately. Maybe there was a couple of
Speaker 3: days of quiet because I remember thinking that maybe we'd
Speaker 3: gotten rid of it.
Speaker 1: Oh, you think it was the same ghost that followed.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so. I think I
Speaker 3: think in I think in the first house there was
Speaker 3: it felt. It felt the first house felt malicious, almost
Speaker 3: like I've gone back to the second house a couple
Speaker 3: of homes since moving out, but and and I'm fine
Speaker 3: going back to that second house. But our first house
Speaker 3: it's one of those that I don't ever want to
Speaker 3: go that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So tell me why the first house was so creepy.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh my gosh. So I, like I said, there
Speaker 3: was there was like daily things, like there was nightly
Speaker 3: and daily things. So I would hear the scratching on
Speaker 3: my door every night, and then uh usually nightly I
Speaker 3: would hear like my name being called, oh my gosh always,
Speaker 3: which is always horrible.
Speaker 1: And then there was what kind of.
Speaker 3: Oh it was like, oh my gosh. It was It's
Speaker 3: almost like how people talk about you not necessarily hearing
Speaker 3: a voice like in the environment, but a voice like
Speaker 3: in your head, like I knew something was calling me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So it's almost like it was like a breathy, almost
Speaker 3: sounding like multiple people kind.
Speaker 2: Of a voice.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I know, my god, it was yes like that,
Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, it was like that.
Speaker 5: It was like that.
Speaker 3: It was like pure horrible trap and oh and that
Speaker 3: was the house was kind of like the heavy hitter things.
Speaker 3: Like the scariest, uh, the scariest memory I have of
Speaker 3: that house was when I was probably around seven and
Speaker 3: I used to sleep in my parents' room a lot,
Speaker 3: like I really didn't like to sleep in my own room.
Speaker 3: I don't remember if that was, you know, because I
Speaker 3: was scared. I just remember not ever wanting to really
Speaker 3: be in my own room by myself. But I was
Speaker 3: sleeping in my parents room, just falling asleep, and my
Speaker 3: parents were actually outside the door having dinner, and I
Speaker 3: was trying to fall asleep. And the way the room
Speaker 3: was set up is you had the room, You had
Speaker 3: the door going into the room, and then if you
Speaker 3: in to the right was there bed that I was in.
Speaker 3: And then directly to the left there was a big
Speaker 3: arm ward like chest thing that we call our hope chest.
Speaker 3: It's a big chest and it was basically empty, but
Speaker 3: I had a seat on top of it where people
Speaker 3: would sit it was like a bench almost, I guess.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: But the scariest thing that happened was I was sleeping
Speaker 3: there and I heard behind me. If you if you
Speaker 3: know this sound of like a child when a child
Speaker 3: is sitting on something and they're kicking their heels against
Speaker 3: like the wood, That's what I heard. It sounded like
Speaker 3: something was kicking their heels like against the wood. It's
Speaker 3: the scariest part. Yeah, the scariest part was was that
Speaker 3: it only happened when I closed my eyes. So I
Speaker 3: closed my eyes and the sound would start and I'd
Speaker 3: opened my eyes and it would stop.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is like a horror movie.
Speaker 3: Like an actual horror movie. So it just felt like
Speaker 3: it was it was taunting me. It felt like it
Speaker 3: was playing with me, like it was trying to scare me.
Speaker 3: That's the scariest memory I have of that house.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if I was a little kid or
Speaker 1: do you know any of the history I wish.
Speaker 3: I did, I wish I did. I mean that whole
Speaker 3: land where I grew up is all old. I grew
Speaker 3: up actually in Florida, and I grew up right outside Pensacola, Florida,
Speaker 3: which is one of the first inhabited or not necessarily
Speaker 3: the first inhabited, but first settled the European settled areas
Speaker 3: of America. Ever, so that that whole land is old
Speaker 3: and there was a Civil War graveyard in our neighborhood
Speaker 3: a couple streets down, so people have been there for centuries. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wish I knew more of the history, though. That
Speaker 3: was the one that felt malicious. If that one, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure it was. It didn't feel human. That one
Speaker 3: did not feel human.
Speaker 1: The second.
Speaker 3: Just because thinking back on it, it was so it's
Speaker 3: kind of like what you have talked about on your
Speaker 3: show about like isolating, like they think they try to.
Speaker 3: It tries to isolate you and it and it made
Speaker 3: me feel like I couldn't talk to anyone, like my
Speaker 3: both of my parents didn't know I was having these
Speaker 3: experience since I was about sixteen years old. Really and
Speaker 3: I yeah, and I finally said something and it didn't
Speaker 3: It just didn't feel like people. The second house felt
Speaker 3: so much more like just people were there, and the
Speaker 3: first house, like I think, I just go back to
Speaker 3: that memory of it felt like it was taunting me.
Speaker 3: It felt very intelligent, but it felt like it was
Speaker 3: taunting me, and it felt like it was isolating me
Speaker 3: and like it was coming after me almost because my parents,
Speaker 3: I mean, my dad doesn't believe in it, so I
Speaker 3: don't know that he would even say that he had
Speaker 3: any sort of experiences. But my mom uh really only
Speaker 3: like could tell me about two that she had, so
Speaker 3: it felt like it was very much targeting me.
Speaker 1: What happened to her?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm?
Speaker 3: She uh one, she has two stories. So one is
Speaker 3: a story where her and my dad were watching paranormal
Speaker 3: activity and the and the smoke alarm like right above
Speaker 3: them went off without any cause, like like right after
Speaker 3: a jump scare in the movie again, kind of like taunting.
Speaker 3: But the one that she talks about is that she
Speaker 3: would always have these dreams. She had countless nightmares in
Speaker 3: that house, specifically centered around like my father and their relationships.
Speaker 3: So she just was constantly having these like nightmares about
Speaker 3: like their relationship falling apart, or like him having an affair,
Speaker 3: or like these things that were just like psychologically like
Speaker 3: wearing her down all that.
Speaker 1: H Do you have siblings, Yeah, I have an.
Speaker 3: Older sister, but we didn't grow up together, so I
Speaker 3: was I was raised as an only child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so then you moved to the second house,
Speaker 1: and is that in the same area.
Speaker 3: It's in the same areas in the same town. Is
Speaker 3: in the newer part of.
Speaker 1: Town though, Okay, So what happened there.
Speaker 3: That house was more like was less daily things and
Speaker 3: more like very specific, pointed things that happened. I thing
Speaker 3: I always which was so clear was the way this
Speaker 3: house was set up was almost like I had my
Speaker 3: own side of the house, like where my bedroom was
Speaker 3: was that was at the end of a very long
Speaker 3: hallway that that like snaked around the living room. So
Speaker 3: there was a big wall, and I had to go
Speaker 3: down this very long hallway with the guest rooms and
Speaker 3: the offices to get to the to get to my room,
Speaker 3: which is at the very end. So every time I
Speaker 3: had to go to my room, especially at night, I
Speaker 3: had to walk down this long, dark hallway.
Speaker 1: Would the other doors be open? I hate that. I
Speaker 1: hate walking by rooms that are black inside with the
Speaker 1: door open.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, the all the doors are open.
Speaker 4: We're an open doorhouse.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so bad. Let me tell you. After this thing,
Speaker 3: I never walked down that hallway without turning on every
Speaker 3: single light. Yeah, because I was walking down the hallway
Speaker 3: and I got about halfway down that hallway and I
Speaker 3: heard directly into my ear it sounded like a young man,
Speaker 3: and he said, hey, it's like a very whisper and
Speaker 3: went like just in my ear, and I stopped in
Speaker 3: my CROs It was horrible, and I never walked down
Speaker 3: that hallway without turning those lights, every single light on.
Speaker 1: Well, he might have been cute, though. He might have
Speaker 1: been cute.
Speaker 3: He might have been cute, who knows. I didn't see
Speaker 3: him though, so he just wanted he just wanted to
Speaker 3: say hi.
Speaker 1: So do people in that area do you? Do you
Speaker 1: have like a lot of friends or other people that
Speaker 1: their houses are haunted? Is that just like a common thing?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. I've I've talked to other
Speaker 3: people about it, and it's we do have a a like,
Speaker 3: I think, a sense of just history more than anything
Speaker 3: I have. I talked to a friend who also said
Speaker 3: that she had a friend that had a house that
Speaker 3: was haunted. But it was like, but we didn't get
Speaker 3: very far into that conversation. We have a historical downtown area,
Speaker 3: so it's it's it's there's a huge sense of history there.
Speaker 3: So whether or not people think it's a supernatural.
Speaker 5: History of the history.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a history, definitely.
Speaker 1: So did other what other things happen in that second house?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: That was actually the house where I saw an apparition.
Speaker 3: And it's the only time I know, I know, it's
Speaker 3: the only time in my both of those homes, I've
Speaker 3: ever seen anything. It was always just usually like auditory
Speaker 3: or uh or just things like happening. But so I
Speaker 3: was sitting on the couch and we had a huge
Speaker 3: open concept, uh living room, and the kitchen was directly
Speaker 3: behind the living room, and right next to the kitchen
Speaker 3: was a hallway that led into my parents' bedroom. So
Speaker 3: I was sitting on the couch watching something and I
Speaker 3: turned around to look to the kitchen where my parents were,
Speaker 3: and as soon as I did, I saw like a
Speaker 3: full body woman in right up Civil War hoop skirt
Speaker 3: like Antebellum South dress, turn and walk into my parents' bedroom.
Speaker 1: That's literally what I'm wearing right now. Yes, yo miniversity.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, wait, so was she see through?
Speaker 3: No? No, she was fully there, But it was so
Speaker 3: quick and I almost just didn't like register it. I
Speaker 3: had gotten to the point and I think I'm still
Speaker 3: at this point that if I ever like noticed anything
Speaker 3: spooky or ghosty, I just a'm like, Okay, that happened,
Speaker 3: and I turn around then ignore it. So it was
Speaker 3: it was just so fast and she just passed right
Speaker 3: through and I turned back around, but she was fully
Speaker 3: She was fully there.
Speaker 1: That sounds that blows my mind because I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like that. But I think that I don't know
Speaker 1: what I would think, like, I think I would be like,
Speaker 1: why is this woman in our house? Who is she?
Speaker 3: Exactly? I didn't I think at that point. I just
Speaker 3: knew that it was supernatural. And I really just like
Speaker 3: I put that in a box and I put it
Speaker 3: away and I turned around, and I just think about it.
Speaker 1: Wow, And you never saw her again?
Speaker 3: No, I never saw her again. That second house felt
Speaker 3: so much like it was almost a like passing through
Speaker 3: almost you know, like people were just coming and going,
Speaker 3: oh wow, yeah, something attached. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and but you still it's like still in the family,
Speaker 1: and you still go back.
Speaker 3: I still go back. Yeah, I still visit my dad there,
Speaker 3: and but I've never stayed overnight again because my I
Speaker 3: live with my mom when I'm not at school, and
Speaker 3: so I go and visit briefly, just for a few hours,
Speaker 3: but I've never stayed overnight again, So who knows.
Speaker 1: Isn't there a ghost at your school too?
Speaker 3: There was a there was a small ghost, A small
Speaker 3: a small.
Speaker 2: Thing to.
Speaker 1: Size doesn't matter. Size isn't everything.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, but in my dorm room my freshman year,
Speaker 3: Supposedly the dorm above us was haunted. So I think
Speaker 3: we got a little bit of like trickle down.
Speaker 1: Like the specific small little like dorm unit above you
Speaker 1: was haunted, like, not the building, just that one.
Speaker 3: Room, just the one room above us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know why?
Speaker 3: No, I don't know this. This is also we're built
Speaker 3: on a again, a very historical site. It's actually the
Speaker 3: old the longest inhabited piece of land in history, like
Speaker 3: of the world. They've they've found they've found pieces of
Speaker 3: archaeology all dating all the way back like pre ice age.
Speaker 3: Who so, yeah, it's it's really it's amazing, but it
Speaker 3: kind of makes everything a little bit spooky. So so yeah,
Speaker 3: so the land itself is very historical and very sacred
Speaker 3: to the Native American tribes who lived here at one point,
Speaker 3: and so it's just teeming with things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So did you have any experiences with it?
Speaker 3: I had two small experiences. It always felt a little spooky,
Speaker 3: but I can't tell you if that was because I
Speaker 3: knew the dorm above us was supposedly haunted or and
Speaker 3: that was influencing me. But it always felt a little strange,
Speaker 3: and I didn't like to be in the dark very long.
Speaker 3: There two very specific things that happened were the Christmas
Speaker 3: break of my freshman year. I couldn't go home. I
Speaker 3: had to stay and work, So I was in this
Speaker 3: dorm unit all by myself, and almost the whole dorm
Speaker 3: completely by myself, the whole building by myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It was terrible. I felt like I was living in
Speaker 3: the shining and I know, and but towards the end
Speaker 3: of that time, I uh, nothing really had happened. It
Speaker 3: was all pretty chill. But I was working at my
Speaker 3: desk one day and I heard the door open behind me,
Speaker 3: like heard the doorknob turn and the door open and
Speaker 3: the door close, And in my probably sleep deprived brain,
Speaker 3: I just thought, oh, my roommate's home. But then I
Speaker 3: quickly remembered that, no, we have two weeks before anybody
Speaker 3: else's home, and I turned around and the door was
Speaker 3: still locked. Nothing was nothing, nothing was there. No one
Speaker 3: had come in. I know.
Speaker 1: See, that's why I don't even want to live in
Speaker 1: a mansion, because there's just too many rooms. If I'm
Speaker 1: there alone.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel the exact same way. You
Speaker 3: don't know what's happening on the other side of that house, no.
Speaker 1: Ya, So what else happened?
Speaker 3: Yes, and then I the one thing. The other thing
Speaker 3: that happened was I was sitting on my bed. It
Speaker 3: was a lofted bed, so I had a good view
Speaker 3: of everything happening. And the way the way our doorm
Speaker 3: was set up was we had a common area out
Speaker 3: towards the front, and then there are two sets of
Speaker 3: rooms with two roommates in each room. So I had
Speaker 3: our door mine, my roommate's door opened to the common area,
Speaker 3: so I could see where our sink was and where
Speaker 3: our front door was. And one of my roommates, I
Speaker 3: had walked just across my door, just the doorway. She
Speaker 3: was heading towards the bathroom, so she just walked right
Speaker 3: across and I saw her go by, and then a
Speaker 3: couple seconds later I saw out of granted out of
Speaker 3: the corner of my eye. But what I saw was
Speaker 3: a girl follow her. Oh, a girl was like pale skin,
Speaker 3: black hair, and in like some sort of just white
Speaker 3: dress like and she just followed right after her. And
Speaker 3: I looked up and I was like, I think that's
Speaker 3: what I saw.
Speaker 1: But whoa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was only one time. It was the
Speaker 3: only one time. And yeah, it's just so I don't
Speaker 3: know if there was something living there or hanging.
Speaker 5: Out or what.
Speaker 1: Whoa, that's creepy. That's the way you describe it. Kind
Speaker 1: of sounds like the girl from The Ring Samara. Have
Speaker 1: you seen that movie? White dress, black hair, pale skin.
Speaker 3: Ooh, oh huh, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rob's dress. Felas, where are you calling from?
Speaker 1: I'm in Utah Utah. Okay, Mackenzie, you are a ghost magnet, right.
Speaker 5: It seems to be not so much lately, but do
Speaker 5: you want more?
Speaker 2: Weirdly?
Speaker 5: Weirdly, it's like really interesting and I'm like really obsessed
Speaker 5: with it. But at the same time, I kind of
Speaker 5: like peacefully sleeping at night.
Speaker 1: But yeah, because you've lived in actual haunted houses, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: a few. Okay, so tell me the first one. Let's
Speaker 1: start from the beginning.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I used to live with my grandparents when
Speaker 5: I was really young, I think up until the age
Speaker 5: of five or six, and I just remember so many
Speaker 5: things up in that house. I remember my grandma passed away,
Speaker 5: and I remember seeing her and her favorite rocking chair
Speaker 5: all the time, and I just thought it was like normal.
Speaker 5: And then a lot of this, like a lot of
Speaker 5: things I remember, Like my brother is pretty close to
Speaker 5: my age. We would always knock on the walls and
Speaker 5: then we just thought it was funny because the same
Speaker 5: patterns would knock back, and it's really creepy now that
Speaker 5: I think about it.
Speaker 3: Wow, do you think that.
Speaker 1: Was your grandmother?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh no, I don't. I don't know. We just
Speaker 5: thought it was just some fun game. We're like, oh something, Sam,
Speaker 5: patterns are being knocked back to us.
Speaker 1: But wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah. There was certain rooms in our house that I
Speaker 5: was like extremely terrified of, Like my parents' bedroom. It's
Speaker 5: just an overall sleeping house. Like when I drive by
Speaker 5: it still to this day, I just get, like, the
Speaker 5: real bad creep What.
Speaker 1: Was going on in your parents' bedroom?
Speaker 5: So I would always come to the room to go
Speaker 5: to sleep because I was scared of my own room
Speaker 5: in the basement, and I always remember as I was
Speaker 5: like laying in bed with them, I would look into
Speaker 5: the closet and there was like this man with a
Speaker 5: hat standing in the closet.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't I don't know. And it was nearly
Speaker 5: every night I was sleeping with them, so I would
Speaker 5: and they would have me always like sleeping on the
Speaker 5: side of the closet, so I would just turn and
Speaker 5: like hug my mom or dad while I was sleeping.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did they ever see him?
Speaker 5: No? My dad, my dad is he's had so many experiences,
Speaker 5: and as I've gotten older, we've talked about it, but
Speaker 5: he's just the type where he won't say anything until,
Speaker 5: like I bring it up or my family brings it up.
Speaker 1: So what were they having experiences in that house? Though?
Speaker 5: My dad? Yes? My mom no, but she just listened
Speaker 5: to us and believed us, and we would tell her
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: Wow, what happened to your dad?
Speaker 5: He won't talk about it too much. That's the only
Speaker 5: time I've ever seen him cry. He didn't want to
Speaker 5: talk to me about it, but he just said he
Speaker 5: saw something awful and he started crying. So I don't
Speaker 5: like to bring up too much with him, but wow,
Speaker 5: you Yeah, I listened to him, and him and my
Speaker 5: aunt talk to the most, and they always just talk
Speaker 5: about like how weird things would happen when they were
Speaker 5: growing up.
Speaker 1: And then, oh, they grew up in that house.
Speaker 5: I don't they grew up so in the neighborhood. They
Speaker 5: grew up in the house up the street.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that whole.
Speaker 5: Neighborhood just feels really off. It's really weird. But they
Speaker 5: never felt like they were alone. My grandparents would always
Speaker 5: travel a lot, and so they'd be home alone, and
Speaker 5: then a lot of weird stuff has happened to them.
Speaker 5: I don't remember exactly what, but I know for sure
Speaker 5: my aunt and my dad are very like sensitive to that.
Speaker 1: So you moved to another haunted house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this house was I kind of live in
Speaker 5: here there right now, But this house I just had
Speaker 5: another bad weird vibe and I just hated hated the basement.
Speaker 5: So much happened in this house, like little things as
Speaker 5: the attic door being opened up every morning, and my
Speaker 5: dad was like, hey, who opened this? And where like
Speaker 5: none of us we were all kind of younger, so
Speaker 5: like we couldn't really you know reach it. But I
Speaker 5: was about fourteen or fifteen when I lived here, and
Speaker 5: I would always hear, like when I was going to sleep,
Speaker 5: I'd always hear like these Indian drums like coming from
Speaker 5: it sounded like Indian drums just coming from the basement,
Speaker 5: like are really specific instruments. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: And it was like just it sounded like a melody
Speaker 5: and it was only inside my house. I would hear it.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: But yeah, and then my worst ever experience was in
Speaker 5: that house.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 5: So we had like food storage downstairs, and I don't
Speaker 5: know if it was a day and night time, but
Speaker 5: my mom said, hey, can you go downstairs grab some
Speaker 5: my cam goods or whatever. So I went downstairs and
Speaker 5: I'm always really quick when I'm in that basement, and
Speaker 5: I just remember feeling like this overwhelming sense of dread
Speaker 5: and it was just so awful, and I was like,
Speaker 5: I have to look behind me, even though I didn't
Speaker 5: want to look behind me, and it was just just
Speaker 5: this giant black figure just standing in the doorway, didn't
Speaker 5: have a shape, I don't know, and I just screamed
Speaker 5: and just ran up the stairs and I was just
Speaker 5: full on like panic attack, bawling. It was so awful.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, sorry you went through that. This sounds terrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the worst. It's the worst experience I've had
Speaker 5: yet to date.
Speaker 1: But so who lives in that house now?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I've driven by it. I moved closer
Speaker 5: to it, I I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: So okay, then you moved to another Hontit house.
Speaker 5: Yes, so this is all kind of in the same area.
Speaker 5: So I moved to I had roommates when I was
Speaker 5: I think nineteen nineteen twenty. This house it's called Warum
Speaker 5: in Utah, and I slept there literally twice because there
Speaker 5: was just this overwhelming sense of dread in the hallway
Speaker 5: at the end of it. And I even had a
Speaker 5: son come over and I was just like, hey, like,
Speaker 5: because I know he's had experiences, I was like, can
Speaker 5: you tell me where in this house do you feel
Speaker 5: something off? And He's like down the hallway, like the
Speaker 5: exact spot, and I'm like, okay, like there's something up.
Speaker 5: I and I just paid rent for a year, but
Speaker 5: I didn't sleep there ever.
Speaker 1: Really, So is it are the houses themselves old or
Speaker 1: is it just the land?
Speaker 5: The houses are old, but I've been talking to people
Speaker 5: I've been. I was interested in looking to a spiritual
Speaker 5: healer too, but I got asked the question like do
Speaker 5: you think it's the houses or do you think something
Speaker 5: was following you? Like my aunt was talking to me
Speaker 5: about it too, she like, do you think something's following you?
Speaker 5: And I'm like ooh, I'm like, you know, I really
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 1: H Does it feel like the same presence in all
Speaker 1: three places?
Speaker 5: The presence in the house when I was in nineteen
Speaker 5: felt just as dark as the one when I was
Speaker 5: the figure I saw in the doorway, and I wouldn't
Speaker 5: let myself look down the hall. I didn't have to
Speaker 5: go down it, really because my roommates fippd down there,
Speaker 5: but I chose because I was like, I don't want
Speaker 5: to feel this way again. So I such at my
Speaker 5: he was my then boyfriend's house a lot because I
Speaker 5: just didn't want to deal with it. Yeah, which I've
Speaker 5: also had experiences.
Speaker 1: At his house, But what happened at his house.
Speaker 5: Another black figure. That one didn't feel as intense to
Speaker 5: me though, Like I was just cutting vegetables. I think
Speaker 5: I was peeling like potatoes or something at his house,
Speaker 5: and I looked down the hallway because I just felt
Speaker 5: something and this black figure just walked by. But that
Speaker 5: one wasn't too threatening to me. His house did feel
Speaker 5: pretty rare, but we slept. When we slept together, I
Speaker 5: was I felt safe enough to go to sleep. But
Speaker 5: at that house, I've had someone yell in my ear,
Speaker 5: someone like something growled in my ear and just yelled
Speaker 5: at me. And my husband was in a different room
Speaker 5: and I like came running in.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel like you've had some really
Speaker 1: like traumatic experiences. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: Oh, you know that's why now I used to like
Speaker 5: talk to things, uh, you know, try to keep the
Speaker 5: conversation going, or just being like, hey, like something pulled
Speaker 5: my arm and I like just sat up in my
Speaker 5: bed and I was like, don't do that, don't touch
Speaker 5: me like that. But I feel like the more I
Speaker 5: talk to it, the more it happens, So I don't
Speaker 5: I try not to, like I just try to ignore it.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, does it?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Is there stuff that happens in the house you live in? Now?
Speaker 5: There was one nothing too much here. I've just had
Speaker 5: I really trastic my gut and like what I'm feeling,
Speaker 5: and there was one day, I just woke up and
Speaker 5: I just felt like something is here with me, but
Speaker 5: nothing too much here. It's newer land, newer house, so
Speaker 5: I feel like that kind of helps contribute, but thankfully
Speaker 5: nothing quite yet. I also have animals here now, so
Speaker 5: I feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they'll sniff it out first. Yes, well, so
Speaker 1: I guess that's the good news, is that nothing's been happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, the more ignore it I feel, the more
Speaker 5: I'm safer from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that's that's probably good advice. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I haven't really lived in
Speaker 1: a haunted house, and I don't plan on it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I haven't lived in any with like malicious spooky spirits,
Speaker 1: but that sounds that sounds fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely not fun. I think like the don't know,
Speaker 5: the one, the one I call it a cool experience,
Speaker 5: it's really creepy, but like the one ultimate Like my
Speaker 5: favorite story to tell is I was a home in
Speaker 5: the house where I saw that creepy figure, the malicious
Speaker 5: one or no.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, gotcha in the basement.
Speaker 5: Yeah. When I was a team, Yeah, I was baby.
Speaker 5: Much of my brother is like a year year and
Speaker 5: a half younger than me. I was babysitting him while
Speaker 5: my parents were out, and we had an extra TV.
Speaker 5: It's in my room where we would play video games,
Speaker 5: and I my parents left with my other siblings and
Speaker 5: I taught my brother was upstairs, and so I was like, hey,
Speaker 5: like calling upstairs, do you want anything to eat? I
Speaker 5: think I was making mac and cheese or something. And
Speaker 5: I could hear like the clicks of the controller like
Speaker 5: when we were playing, and I was like, hey, do
Speaker 5: you want something? And he's like, no, I don't want anything,
Speaker 5: and I'm like okay. So I just stayed down the
Speaker 5: whole time. And then when my parents got back, like
Speaker 5: I had a full on competition time. And then when
Speaker 5: my parents got back, my brother came through the door.
Speaker 5: I was like, wait, you were home the whole time.
Speaker 5: You were just upstairs and he's like no, I was
Speaker 5: out with my with the family, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: you were home.
Speaker 3: I talked to you.
Speaker 1: Oh god, stories like that, Oh my god, Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're so yeah.
Speaker 5: I literally just talked to something that was like impersonating
Speaker 5: my brother that wasn't my brother. I could hear the
Speaker 5: TV going full on clicks on the video game controller and.
Speaker 1: He was gone the whole time home and it sounded
Speaker 1: just like him.
Speaker 5: Yep, it sounded just like him, but it was really short.
Speaker 5: It was do you want something to eat? No? Okay, like,
Speaker 5: what are you playing? Whatever game he was playing. I
Speaker 5: don't remember something of the Nintendo, but I don't know,
Speaker 5: so that one like this gives me like the ultimate creeps.
Speaker 5: I just don't say now.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: That is so creepy. There's a ghost in my house.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a terrifying way to end the show.
Speaker 1: Her dad was crying, what did he see?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And then a ghost impersonating her brother. I'm gonna be
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