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Speaker 2: We have you're such a side line.

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Speaker 1: brass monkeys. Now. This is Teal Talk, the official Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars UK and Island podcast, presented by Gallagher. I'm Jay Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: no relation. He's Key Ramsuran and this is our last

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Speaker 1: Teal Talk of the season, but we will be back

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Speaker 1: got to give a yay. Then back once a month

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Speaker 1: to talk all things Jags in the off season. We're

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Speaker 1: talking the draft, of course, re signings, injury rehabs.

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Speaker 3: I've got no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And in the next podcast at the end of January,

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Speaker 1: we're probably actually gonna be reacting to something quite big

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Speaker 1: new the new Jackuar's head coach. I know Doug Peterson

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Speaker 3: Did it before? He was fine?

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Speaker 1: As head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We will talk

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Speaker 1: about that we'll talk about possible replacements, all things NFL

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Speaker 1: and Jags. In this episode of Till Talk, we will

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Speaker 1: make our early Super Bowl picks.

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Speaker 3: And we'll do it all in the.

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Speaker 1: Company of the athletics NFL reporter in the UK Man.

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Speaker 1: It has been in the NFL UK scene for a while.

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Speaker 1: Peter Carline will introduce Peter in a second, but first key,

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about it ever sober briefly, only

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Speaker 1: because it feels like it's a It just sums up

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Speaker 1: the Jags season as a whole. Another narrow defeat for

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Speaker 1: the Jags. I don't feel like we need to go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I was writing the TV show this week, Jay,

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, another one score game. I wonder what

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Speaker 3: Can you what would have been?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what?

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Speaker 2: Three and one?

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Speaker 1: where I can introduce the athletics Peter Carlin. Peter, thank

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Speaker 1: We took jacks head coach search in a second, but

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Speaker 1: let's just ask if you had to sum up, let's

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Speaker 4: I'm going to have to say disappointing. Okay, third year

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Speaker 4: I mean I saw them at Wembley and the first

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Speaker 2: They swept the Titans. Peter, that's huge.

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Speaker 3: Now, would that be your number one choice? Peter?

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Speaker 4: You know, you've got Trevor Lawrence, You've got Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson can pretty much go where he wants, can't he?

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Speaker 1: And he's interviewing for a bunch of different teams as

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Speaker 2: I guess you would look at have we seen the

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Speaker 2: So I'm very fortunate that I've sat down with coach

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Speaker 3: It's huge.

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Speaker 4: This is you know, you need to get Trevor Lawrence back,

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Speaker 3: Really, what would you like to happen?

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Speaker 1: Brutal, brutal, Peter, Okay, before we let you go, Pete, Actually,

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Speaker 3: Your super Bowl pick, please, Peter?

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Speaker 4: That the heart, the heart says, let's have it. Let's

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Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying, that's been saying up for

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Speaker 1: What does the head say, Peter?

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Speaker 4: The head says that the Kansas City Chiefs will somehow

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the Lions are a very much a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the story is good, and I

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to get and then comes to Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: Then he wins a second ring two years in a row.

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Speaker 2: There you go. I like it. I like you.

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Speaker 1: Peter, you could come back on. You could come back on. Peter,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. And for the record,

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Speaker 1: I am going Bill's Lions Super Bowl as well. The heart,

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Just to say the opinions of Peter Carline from the

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Speaker 3: Oh, not surprised. It's like it's like there's an asterisk

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Speaker 3: thinking is allowed. Yeah, of course it is. It'd be

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Speaker 3: a concern, agument, was it. Thanks so to Peter for

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Speaker 3: coming on. I mean, end of season.

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Speaker 2: That was a good chat. It was nice to have

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Speaker 2: some outside thoughts as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, especially when it comes to over

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Speaker 1: the next few weeks. Actually, it could be even over

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Speaker 1: the next month or so, depending on what you know. Happens,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the head coaching search, what jag should

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Speaker 1: be looking for and all of that, So it's good

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Speaker 1: to get somebody else on it. Speaking of the end

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Speaker 1: of the season, Key, it is also the end of

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Speaker 1: the season for the NFL for our NFL show, our

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Speaker 1: Janquars NFL Show over on sky Sports NFL, which means,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's a big one and if it's not,

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Speaker 1: do your job better, Kish, Sorry, sorry, what's going on me.

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Speaker 2: This week? It is a big one obviously, end of

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Speaker 2: the season and also big news coming out of Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: on Monday, so there's a lot of discussion about the future.

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Speaker 2: JP and Tonia are giving some very interesting opinions definitely

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Speaker 2: worth tuning in for. And MiCT as always, is a

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Speaker 2: really really good one for the end of the season,

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Speaker 2: and that is on sky Sports NFL Wednesday at nine pm,

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Speaker 2: repeated it throughout the week and then all of the

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Speaker 2: bits broken down onto the Jaguars UK YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: Can I say, I know it's been a really big

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Speaker 1: week for the Jacksonville Jaguars, like a really important week,

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Speaker 1: like a lot of you know.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Now I try, I've got to say the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I am sure that ninety nine percent of the

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Speaker 1: listeners this podcast have been waiting for is to find

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Speaker 1: out the final standings, the final standings on our dediction table.

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Speaker 2: You've waited till the end of the episode to keep

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Speaker 2: people listening, to keep exactly going on. That's exact main

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Speaker 2: news that people are after, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: They were listening to this stuff about Doug Peters and thinking,

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Speaker 1: all right, come.

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Speaker 3: On, get to it, get to it, get to it.

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Speaker 1: We predicted, we have predicted schoolline every single week here

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Speaker 1: until talk, and the winner of the standings gets to

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Speaker 1: steal a bit of Jaguars merchandise from the other person. Now,

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Speaker 1: about half a season through, it looked like I was

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Speaker 1: going to win it. But in the end, I did.

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Speaker 1: I did, I did. I did still within it, I

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Speaker 1: did still win it. The final standings key with four?

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Speaker 1: How many wins did the Jags get this this year?

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Speaker 2: Four?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can see what happened there, the special guests

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Speaker 1: or the fan every single week they got five and

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Speaker 1: I got seven, which means that I get to pick

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Speaker 1: a bit of Jags merchandise.

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Speaker 2: Treacherous victory.

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Speaker 1: It is a little bit, isn't it I did. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a few of them. I felt guilty. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: go through what you've got because you can watch us

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. By the way, if you're watching this on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: you can watch it on YouTube and you can see keys.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know background right now, which is choker block

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Speaker 1: full of jags merchandise.

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Speaker 3: Sorry behind you. Can you just talk us through a

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Speaker 3: few of them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So on this side here is my favorite, which

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Speaker 2: is a bespoke sideway.

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Speaker 1: Why would you tell me that was favorite? I get

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Speaker 1: to steal something a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: I think you're a nice guy and you'll make the

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Speaker 2: right decision.

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Speaker 3: JA, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: It's something that would fit in the post like the

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Speaker 2: size of a postage stand. That's bespoke artwork. It is

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence with the Stadium of the Future, but in

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Speaker 2: a cyberpunk style because I like eighties stuff.

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Speaker 3: What else we got Over this.

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Speaker 2: Side, you've got a trip tick, which is three individual

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Speaker 2: bespoke artworks of Trevor Lawrence, Tony Biselli and Josh heinz Allan.

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Speaker 2: Then over here you've got my bespoke because it's all bespoke,

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Speaker 2: nice stuff.

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Speaker 3: Don't take it off me.

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Speaker 2: And then here you've got my little Trevor Lawrence figurine.

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Speaker 2: That that's my favorite.

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Speaker 3: That actually, let's have a look at the figurine. Let's

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Speaker 3: have a look. Can you can you put it to

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Speaker 3: the camera through Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: It is, but it's actually my daughters.

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Speaker 3: Would you tell me that?

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Speaker 2: She said to me, why don't you give that one

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Speaker 2: to j j would like that one. And his name

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Speaker 2: is Julia. She's really named him Julia.

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Speaker 1: You're so scared of losing all your bespoke stuff that

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Speaker 1: you are actually trying to throw trying to throw the

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Speaker 1: big dog under the bus.

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Speaker 2: If you're asking me to choose between my bespoke artwork

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Speaker 2: and my daughter j then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna have the figurine. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have a figurine. If that makes me an awful person,

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Speaker 1: I'm an awful person.

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Speaker 2: It's easier to post. Let's say that that's the reason.

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Speaker 1: But do you know what, do you know what we

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Speaker 1: can do is we can make that trophy that is

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Speaker 1: it is now the trophy and we're going to have

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Speaker 1: that every single year so that if you want to

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Speaker 1: if you want to try and get into your daughter's

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Speaker 1: good books again. You need to be better at predicting

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Speaker 1: so you can win that back next season.

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Speaker 2: And little Trevor forward slash Julia might make his way

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Speaker 2: around the country if a fan wins then gets both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, all right, we're calling him little Trevor.

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Speaker 2: No, I think we should call him Julia.

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Speaker 1: All right, Julia is on the way to me bride

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Speaker 1: a place in my background.

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Speaker 2: You were right not to assume gender, but there we go.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I feel quite kind of proud of myself.

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Speaker 2: No, you did very well, joy well done, Key, that is.

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Speaker 2: But we're not.

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Speaker 3: We're not the end of the season. We're done.

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Speaker 2: It's the end of the season, but it's not the

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Speaker 2: end of us.

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Speaker 1: At the end of us, which is always good to know.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be back in a few weeks time,

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Speaker 1: aren't we at the end of the month? Where we

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Speaker 1: are we might have news, we might have been news.

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Speaker 1: We're excited. It's going to be a big off season

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Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jankuis and we're going to be along

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Speaker 1: for the ride, aren't we.

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Speaker 2: Key, We certainly are. We certainly are. You said your

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Speaker 2: super Bowl to go back on it, you said you're

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Speaker 2: who you was going to be in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Who are you rooting for to take it?

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Speaker 1: I have no preference Key Jacksonville Jaguars. I root for

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Speaker 1: them to be in the Super Bowl. We'll end the

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Speaker 1: podcast that way.

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Speaker 2: The broadcaster, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, we'll talk in partnership with Gallagher has been a

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Speaker 1: shooting sharp production for Jacksonville Jaguars UK and Ireland. Go

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Speaker 3: We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: It's been a few weeks time.

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Speaker 4: Buck