1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. Welcome to Stephan Never 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: told you a production of I Heart Radio. 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: And welcome to another happy hour where it's not a 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: pitchin wine the time round because I'm trying to make 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: it a little more happier. It's more of a confessional, 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: we'll say, for this happy hour. But before we start, 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: just FYI were not being sponsored by anything we mentioned. 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: If we do mention any products at this time, that 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: could change. We all know that. And if you are 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: doing the actual happy hour as if we were together 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: in a happy hour just getting chilling, be responsible, you know, 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: do you? But in a adult fashion, in a way 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: that is responsible. Eddie, are you slipping on anything I made? 14 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Margherita, Oh yes, I'm trying to. I mean, I know 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: I've been complaining about it for a while, but my 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: refrigerator situation is real bad, so I'm trying to clear 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: out space. 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: And I still have some of that mezcal. 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're using that up real good. 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: I mean I still got quite a bit left. 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, I like it. 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: I like it. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: You should do you, And that's a part of your doing, 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: which is getting rid of everything. 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: You it's bad it's really bad. 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: Well, I so we went out last night. We have 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: this thing where quarterly we get together celebrate we've been 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: doing with s minty and eat oysters because I love 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: oysters like so much. Oysters. So we went out last 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: night and celebrated what we're doing, talking about the things 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: we want to do for the future and eating good oysters. 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: And that involved to adult beverages and for me, that 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: was too much. My head was hurting. So today I 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: am keeping it with my water, bubbly water with some 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: strawberry flavor because my pineapple flavor is gone. Apparently it's 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: only available in Canada and I can't order it, so 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: Canadian friends send me some. I'm just kidding, but it's 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: I thought that was so weird to me. I was like, 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: why is this not available in the US. I don't understand. 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm very sad. But anyway, but that's how I'm keeping 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: it today because I still have a small headache. Because yes, 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: over forty means feeling like you have a hangover when 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be having a hangover. Anyway, that's there's a 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: wine bit, you know. But today I kind of wanted 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: to explore the fact that there's comfort mills and for 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: comfort mills, what does that mean? So today is March 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty twenty four, right before Easter. So if 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: you yeah, surprise surprise. 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: Funny because one of the reasons if my refrigerators so foles. 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: I have this meal I make on Easter, but I 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: totally forgot this this weekend. 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Yep, it's good to use it. That is why we 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: have these put moments together. But yeah, So one of 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: the things that I think is interesting because I am 55 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: a transracial adoptee. I am very Asian but grew up 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: in a very Southern household. And as much as I 57 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: have been exploring into Korean food and getting kind of 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: back to my roots and things that I do remember 59 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: and don't remember, like I will always have Southern food 60 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: with my comfort food. Like I my sister has the 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: best chicken and dupling recipes that I use and I 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: love that. And apparently my partner, who grew up in 63 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: North Georgia as well for a little while, has said 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: that he had never eaten it before, which I'm very 65 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: very confused by it, and he compared it to matsabal soup. 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, how in the world did you eat matsa 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: bal soup in Gainesville, Georgia, but not have chicken and dumplings. 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm very confused. Thoroughly confused anyway, but things like that 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: food and kind of that growing up as an adult. 70 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Of course, there's a couple of conversations we've had recently 71 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: in that we are adults, but our life is nothing 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: like our parents. And I know we've talked about this previously, 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: especially like our moms putting up a whole different level 74 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 2: standards and cleanliness and housekeeping, and we were like, yeah, 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: we don't, we don't do that. As well as the 76 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: fact that, yeah, I just figured out recently that one 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 2: of my dad's hobbies which I had no idea about, 78 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: because all I knew growing up was him working, being tired, 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: coming home to eat, and doing house projects. Like he 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: rarely had time to play games with us. We never 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: had family board game nights. None of that happened in 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: our house. My brother and I would sometimes play together, 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: but then we would erupt into a fight and then 84 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: we could not play together, Like that's kind of how 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: that went down. So our house was a little different 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: in that level. But I think our generation, when we 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: had parents who are who are boomers? That was their 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: life like that whole working nine to five, but for him, 89 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: his commute was an hour an hour and a half, 90 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: so it was like working from six thirty seven til 91 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: sa uh if not later, and then coming home exhausted, 92 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 2: and then doing the weekends as projects because he maintained 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: the house so we didn't have plumbers coming into it 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: through unless it was like a big emergency. Then if not, 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: he fixed it. He went to the home depot, or 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: he went to Low's or Ace Hardware because that was 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: what was available in our neighborhood to fix things. But 98 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: like all of these things, growing up, realizing these minute 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: details that I never noticed, and then growing up and 100 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: being like I am nothing like this. As much as 101 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: like this was great, I'm nothing like this. And in 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: that level of like growing up with different types of food, 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: I was talking to you because when I was a nanny, 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: the kids who were pretty well off and as in fact, 105 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: I think a couple of them are had like doing 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: their own truck to become celebrities themselves, loved ramen noodle 107 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: top ramen with tons and tons of hot sauce, like 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: they ate so much that it almost looked like they're 109 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: challenging themselves and their siblings about who got the hottest version. 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: And they loved eating that, and they loved eating Hamburger helper, 111 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: which is also what I grew up with. And I 112 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: was fine and feeding them this. They're very active kids, 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: so it wasn't like any health issues had risen or 114 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: we were concerned about that. As obsessed as the mom 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: was about her features and her weight, she never really 116 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: put that onto her kids. Of course the kids learned 117 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: just from watching her, but she was happy with them 118 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: being fed. The grandmother, the mother of the mom, was 119 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: great cook. Actually she was amazing, but she was that 120 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: she was Filipino, Filipino, but she did a lot of 121 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Asian dishes that the kids loved, so like, I love 122 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: that aspect of seeing that was like, oh, this is 123 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: like my childhood who lived in nut so rich house. 124 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: But those foods were comforting, and when I would eat 125 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: it with the kids, because obviously if I've made it 126 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: for them, I have to have to eat with them, 127 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: it was delicious. And it's been a minute since I've 128 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: had Hamburger helper, Rannie. But I sometimes crap that I 129 00:06:59,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: do too. 130 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: I know that during the pandemic, people were seeking out 131 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: comforting foods and one of the things my mom, like 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: an easy thing she would make was a hamburger helper 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: chicken alfredo and I'm sure it had so much sodium 134 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: and it was like calorically dense, but I loved it, 135 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't find it during the pandemic, and I 136 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: was like, I just really want this comforting, simple, salty, 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: delicious carbi thing that I remember from childhood, and I 138 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: still can't find it. 139 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: Oh, they might have discontinued it. 140 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this could be a like I'm wondering how 141 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: different everything is, because you know, we're definitely now at 142 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: the age where things have changed, the tastes have changed, 143 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: the recipe has changed all the different ways. Because yeah, 144 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: so like I haven't had hamber helper, but one of 145 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: the things that I would eat as a kid, So 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: I again southern home. My dad's parents actually had a 147 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: small enough like farmland ish but they would grow things. 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: So you would get homemade corn cream, corn fried okra, 149 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: deep fried okra, and lard, you know, or like deep 150 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: vegetable oil like they eat it was real fried. Then 151 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: green beans, especially string beans that they had made with 152 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: at least like a hamhock, if not some other part 153 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: of me bacon, fat, whatever, as well as corn bread 154 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: and the skillet cornbread, not the sweet one though it 155 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: was always the like the cakey one, but I had 156 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: the good like brown crisp edges, as well as mac 157 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: and cheese. Now the mac and cheese, I don't think 158 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: I ever had homemade mac and cheese with my family. 159 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: I think they always did box mac and cheese, like 160 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember, like people who did make mac 161 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: and cheese were the fancy people. Yes, outside of that, 162 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: we did that. They just went and bought the belvy 163 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: the cheese, and that's what we had as part of 164 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: our meal. And growing up, my siblings and I would 165 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: make what would call a hodgepodge of these, so we 166 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: would take all the veggies, put it together, so corn, 167 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 2: green beans, okra, and the mac and cheese and a 168 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: giant bowl and then just crumble like corn bread into 169 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: it and make it a giant mix, and we'd call 170 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: it the Hodgepodge mill. And I craved that as an 171 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: adult all the time, to the point that I definitely 172 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: have to do at least two or three times a year, 173 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: which is quite funny because my partner and I used 174 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: to joke that he would make the Asian foods who 175 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: was white. He is very white, and I would make 176 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: the country food who was very Asian. Like it was 177 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: such a like split segon and I was like, yeah, 178 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: this is what I like and like the feeling of 179 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: like coming into Yeah. I made literally made canned green 180 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: beans because I don't I would love the homemade, but 181 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: we don't have like I don't. We don't farm here 182 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: like we were in Decatur, so it's not accessible. All 183 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: the things. We have had issues with trees in the house. 184 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: He wants to have all this garden, but I'm like, 185 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it because I killed Basil. I'm very sad. 186 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm still traumatized reacily, but like having cane green beans. 187 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: There's this creamed corn that's frozen in a package you 188 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: get in the freezer, a vegetable aisle, and that's like 189 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: the best. I'm like, it's the best I've had in 190 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: a while, even compared to like I've made homemade cream corn. 191 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: It's an endeavor. It's an endeavor because I try to 192 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: see if I can do it, and if I can 193 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: know how I can do it, then I'll move on like, yeah, 194 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: well now this is just as good, so I'm going 195 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: And then like I made a box of Annies mac 196 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: and cheese, not any our friend here, but the actual 197 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: brand of mac and cheese. And I didn't have the corner, 198 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: and I forgot the corner. But I have been eating 199 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: it to the point that I ate it kind of 200 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: early morning as my early lunch today because I was like, yep, 201 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: I want my hotchpodged milk. It makes like to me, 202 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, do other people eat like this? Because I've 203 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: always grown up eating green beans and corn together. Hmmm, 204 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: and I always thought that was normal, But I don't know. 205 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: That might just be our family thing. But these types 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: of food they feel me in a way that I 207 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: feel full and happy and content and just that memory 208 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: of being for a moment home in the good moments. 209 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean food is powerful in that way and 210 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: that sounds delicious to me. We used to joke with 211 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: my little brother because you know, some people have. 212 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: The interesting thing with food. 213 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, listeners, if you have any meals 214 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: like what we're talking about, that like your family makes, 215 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: but it seems no one else does. Let us know, 216 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: my little brother. Some people have that thing where they're like, 217 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: my foods are separate, they will not be mixed. 218 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 219 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And my little brother, we used to joke, would 220 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: always make a pie. 221 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: So whatever it was, he would just mix it and 222 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: he was happiest when it was mixed. 223 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: And I'm over here, like my noodles was not touched. 224 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: What it was. 225 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: It's true, it's true because I did like some things mixed. 226 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: So one of the things we did that was I 227 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: think it was my idea because I read it in 228 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: a book, but it was. It's called like an English 229 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: nest or something. It's mashed potatoes, green peas, and ham. 230 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, mixed, I know he's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 231 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of but it sounds like the beginnings of 232 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: Shepherd's Pie. 233 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: Yes. It's like a very low maintenance which. 234 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: I had never had until I went and worked a 235 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: year in Oklahoma and they loved that. I was like, 236 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: what is this. 237 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: It's a very hearty meal. 238 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: It is a very hearty meal. I think it was 239 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: because you could do it in bulk, and because I 240 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: worked at a children's home. That's how what they would make, 241 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: and it was easy to get, like the canned veggies, 242 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: which I hate canned veggies, like to the point that 243 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: I love the queen beans, but like the mixed veggies 244 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: with the peace and the carrots. Hated that stuff. 245 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: Hated it. 246 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: I still do did this day. I don't like can 247 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: green peas. Though I do not like peas, I do 248 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: not like the mother stop making me try to eat them. 249 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: She did. 250 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: She tried so hard. I was like, I know, no 251 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: green peas. 252 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: It's not like you were talking to me. For a second. 253 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, I. 254 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: Traumatized by that. But yeah, so like like I that's 255 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: that was a bulk thing that they had box mashed potatoes. 256 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: Put that on and then they always got buffalo meat 257 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: Oklahoma y all. So it was very very accessible. I 258 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: hated it, oh so much, but I had to eat 259 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: it because I was with the kids. The kids can't 260 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: be piggy, so I can't be picky. And I was like, oh, 261 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: but this is so disgusting. Don't get me wrong. I've 262 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: had actually good shepherd's pie and I get it. I'm like, oh, 263 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: this is okay, this is legitimate, Like okay, I see now, 264 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: this is this is what it's supposed to be. And 265 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: they did again, they did what the best they could, 266 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: like with the lump the giant meals that have to 267 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: make because I've cooked for like larger groups of people 268 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: and you realize that it takes a lot of effort 269 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: in doing that. But it also made me think, because 270 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: Easter is coming up, like the different traditions, because I 271 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: think my parents will be doing sandwiches, but it's ham. 272 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: Always involved ham. Did yours involve ham? 273 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 274 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: And I won't go on my science food stuff reason 275 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: why that is, but yes, most it does involve ham. 276 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: All that deviled eggs. Of course, we had boiled eggs 277 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: on top of boiled eggs on top of boiled eggs, 278 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: because that's what we do dying Easter eggs. We had 279 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: the country mill. I'm wondering is that an all of 280 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: the US thing or is that just a Southern thing? 281 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: I think like the devil'ed eggs are specific, but eggs 282 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: are pretty popular. 283 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: Again, there's a historical reason for this. 284 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the ham is pretty popular at Lamb also, 285 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: but there are variations. 286 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: For sure. My family did it was a like ham, 287 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: deviled eggs. 288 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: Those are like the main things, right, and then some 289 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of like green beans or cheese or something like 290 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: some kind of vegetable or something. 291 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was looking to see what other countries 292 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: would do. So this is from try Theworld dot com 293 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,119 Speaker 2: eleven incredible Easter mills from around the world. Apparently Austria, Switzerland, 294 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: and southern Germany have traditionally braided breads, either in the 295 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: shape of a loaf or a wreath. I'm not gonna 296 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: try to say the word for the wreath, so that's 297 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: it's interesting. Yeah, well I did. I did see a 298 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: hot crossbun and it goes to Great Britain, so the UK, 299 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: and they have the sweet rolls uh, and that they 300 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: are marked with across to symbolize Jesus' crucifixion. Uh. They 301 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: also do the roast Sunday roast, which I've never had 302 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: a Sunday roast, which makes since because I'm not from 303 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: the UK, but I kind of want to, but I 304 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: know that's a big ordeal. And then they had the 305 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: home let homemade chocolate Easter eggs, which you know, the 306 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: cadberry eggs. We definitely have the cadberry eggs here. The 307 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: Philippines has a whole pig and pie and fresh fish 308 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: and I know fish is so associated with a lot 309 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: of Easter traditions as well. 310 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: That's why you can eat fish on Fridays during legs right. Also, 311 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: if you've never looked it up, Lamb cakes. They are 312 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: cakes that are made to look like lamb and they're scary, 313 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: scary a lot of times they look really scary and 314 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: I love it so much, and they have like red jelly. 315 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: So when you cut it less, please write in. I 316 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: had never heard of this until like two years ago. 317 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: I think in Europe it's popular. But I know, like 318 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: super producer Andrew who used to produce this show, he 319 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: knew about it. 320 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: Oh really yes, yeah, so it's the. 321 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: Thing interesting, look it up. I have to look it up. 322 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: There's a lamb pie in Italy, but I think that's 323 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: legit lamb. Yeah. I think it's like a seafood is 324 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: in Sweden. That sounds like a way to go with 325 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: a cured salmon. Yeah, pickled hearing, give me some. It 326 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: looks like Paraguay does chippa, which is a cheese bread. 327 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: I like cheese and bread. It's made from a yuca starch, 328 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: which again that sounds interesting. Easter Lamb Easter Bunny is Germany. 329 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: It's also marble cake in the form of an animal, 330 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: so this must be it Easter cake, Easter lamb or 331 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: Easter bunny, traditional sweets in Easter in Germany, and it's 332 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: a Marble's cake in the form of an animal. So Germans, 333 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: let me know, send us a picture. 334 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: So good, it's so good. 335 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: It's interesting. But yeah, I thought that was interesting because 336 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: I don't think about it. I just thought about it 337 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: because it's coming up very quickly, and my partner and 338 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: now are like, what are we going to do? We're 339 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: gonna go to a family's house. What are we doing? 340 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: It's kind of chaotic. It feels like very chaotic, like 341 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: holidays don't exist. And I think a part of that 342 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: for us in that we do it with family, so 343 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: without children, we think of it even less because we 344 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 2: don't have to do the prep stuff like did I 345 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: see a cute Reese's Easter Bunny? Yes? Did I buy 346 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: it for my partner who loves Reese's. Yes, like that 347 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: that's a yes, Like I'll do things like that, but 348 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: that's the end because I went to the grocery store 349 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: and saw it. But I don't think I think about 350 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: the holidays like that as much because there's no prep around. 351 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: Like there's so many things that I've had where it 352 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: feels very nostalgic right now because of like the food specifically. 353 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: And I've talked about the power of food before, and 354 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: I think I've talked about my hotchpodge, but like the craving, 355 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: the craving is what's like, Huh, I can't believe my 356 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: preference for a good meal is boxed macaroni and cheese, 357 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: canned green beans and frozen cream corn as a mixture. 358 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: And I'm joyfully, gleefully eating this And like I presented 359 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: to my partner as if I cooked a giant mill, 360 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: Like there you go, enjoying my freshly per mare box 361 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: mil Hey, he got bad. 362 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: So it's delicious, I'm sure. 363 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: And with public fried chicken, I just that fried chicken 364 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: is good, y'all. It's good. 365 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 366 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: That's what we were saying when we were talking about it, 367 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: is there's a reason why that during the pandemic, like 368 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: sales of mac and cheese went through the roof. Like 369 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: there's when you grow up with something that's comforting and 370 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: kind of simple, but like very salty and flavorful and filling. 371 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: It just to me, makes so much sense that you 372 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: have these strong cravings for it. When you have it, 373 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: you're like, even if you're not thinking of a specific memory, 374 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: you're kind of transported a little bit back. 375 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I remember when I had that. 376 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: There's this feeling of safety with it, and if you 377 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: can find a moment of safety, and especially when you 378 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: come from chaos, the having those home moments, it's very 379 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: important to you. And again, like it also brings back 380 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: to like the aging and being an adult and being 381 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: allowed to do this. I'm like, yeah, this is how 382 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. Watch me Like there's some 383 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: satisfaction in doing it that way. So yeah, thanks for 384 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: going down my food journey. I'm probably gonna go downstairs 385 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: in a minute and eat the rest of it. 386 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 3: You should. I support this. 387 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: I support this, and I really hope I love hearing 388 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: about people's foods and traditions, and so I really hope 389 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: listeners if you have any, whether they be holiday related 390 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: or just something your family did, I would love to 391 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: hear them for sure. 392 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And if you did a lamb cake. 393 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yes, well, thank you Samantha for sharing that 394 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: with us, and listeners, if you would like to contact 395 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: us you can. Our email is steffidiamom Stuff at iHeartMedia 396 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: dot com. 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